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[Ep 532] Punch the Cupcakes [2:26:15]
Recorded: Sat, 2017-Aug-19 UTC
Published: Sat, 2017-Aug-19 23:00 UTC

On this week's Curmudgeon's Corner, guest host Brandy joins Sam to talk about this week's news. The main topics for the week are of course the events in Charlottesville, everybody's reactions to Charlottesville, the reactions to the reactions to Charlottesville, and the debate over Nazis and free speech. In addition, they also discuss Bannon's departure, what that means to the administration, if we're heading toward an invocation of the 25th amendment, Bannon's "war"... and if the left should double down on their base or try to reach the Obama voters who flipped to Trump in 2016... and a few other things too.

(0:00:17-0:20:30) But First
- Agenda
- Intro to Brandy
- Base vs Middle
- Why Fire District?
(0:21:15-1:14:42) Charlottesville
- What happened?
- Why is this different?
- Motivating resistance
- Has Trump done damage?
- Trump's reactions
- Trump racist himself?
- Why is anyone surprised?
- Trump vs Pence
- What can R's do?
- What's next?
- Provoking violence
(1:15:48-2:03:00) Free Speech and Nazis
- Disclaimer
- Why Charlottesville isn't a good example
- Sam and Ivan conversation
- Sam gets extreme on free speech
- What about politicians and war?
- Who gets to decide?
- Judging entire groups
- Actual speech vs symbols and code words
- What about private speech, newspapers, websites?
- Limits on government
- How big is the threat?
- Old doesn't mean good
(2:04:08-2:25:55) Bannon Out
- Chaos or Improvement?
- Kelly in control?
- Trump and his Staff
- Controlling Trump
- 25th Amendment
- Bannon declaring war
- Everything messy

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