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Sam:
[0:00]
| Hello folks okay live stream is going let's get this sucker going boom boom.
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Sam:
[0:31]
| Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, May 16th. It's 22.30 UTC as we're starting to record. I am Sam Minter, and for the second week in a row, I do not have Mr. Yvonne Bowe with me. And I also don't have anybody else. So what's going on this time? Well, first of all, Yvonne told me, I messaged him that, hey, can we do our recording Saturday a little bit earlier or a little bit later than normal? Because I have a thing I have to do. And I'll tell you a little bit more about that thing in a second. And he responded with, oh, oops, actually, you know, he said, I have a worse issue. I just realized this is the weekend that I have to take Manu to Orlando for his graduation trip. And I'm about to get on a bus with him right now.
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Sam:
[1:38]
| And just to be complete about that, a few hours later, he said to the Curmudgeon's Corner Slack, I am insane. I am on a bus with about 68th graders for a 200-mile ride. This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever agreed to. And yeah, so that's that.
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Sam:
[2:08]
| So he could not make it and then I thought about whether or not I would put out my little request for co-hosts but it was, It was, it was already late to be doing that. Like I had the, I had the same issue like last week where I found out we wouldn't have a co-host, but it was already like Friday. And in this case it was, you know, yeah, it was already Friday. And so, you know, and also I couldn't do my normal time either. I had something Friday night as well. So like if I was going to get somebody, it would be like, well, when exactly could we do it? Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, I probably could have worked something out if somebody really wanted to do it. But generally speaking, when it's that close to the thing, I'm not going to find somebody. So I didn't even send out the email yet.
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Sam:
[3:05]
| So here is the plan. I am, of course, going to, well, of course, whatever. I'm going to tell you about the thing I went to and actually I've got a little bit of a recording from that and that'll be my first segment and then I'll take a break and we'll do movies, and TV shows movie number one, It's one movie and one TV show. So the movie is The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland from 1999. And the TV show is Cosmos. 1984, 2014, 2020.
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Sam:
[3:41]
| And that'll be my second segment. And then I will leave the third segment for whatever newsy stuff I want to talk to. Honestly, the only thing that's really on the agenda is that I wrote down previously was Trump's trip to China. I don't know. I'll take a look at the news when I get to that segment and decide if I want to do others. Also, Yvonne did say that he was going to try to record something to send to me. He has not done so yet. And maybe he's forgotten because he's been like swamped by the hundreds of eighth graders or whatever it is, and they have like tied him up and captured him and, you know, tossed him in the back of the bus and done whatever the eighth graders do to people. And so he, we may or may not get that. If we get that, I will also include that. If we don't get it, oh well, Yvonne can talk to us next week. Anyway, the thing I was at, the thing I was at was actually that right, you know, I sent Yvonne the message saying, can I move the thing because I've got something. Late Thursday night Pacific time, it was after midnight Eastern time on Friday and he didn't answer me till morning. Expected. Like, I didn't expect him to answer at like two in the morning. And, you know, so that's fine. That's fine. Whatever.
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Sam:
[5:09]
| Anyway, just a little bit earlier, my mom had called my wife and said, did you see the thing I invited you to, and can you make it? It turns out my mother had sent my wife a text earlier in the week, which my wife had not seen because actually like it was, it was sent while she was doing a campaign event. Uh, she hasn't had her kickoff yet. That's in a couple of weeks, but she had a campaign warmup event pre-kickoff and the message was sent to her during that. So she'd never seen it. Turns out she couldn't make it. And it was Saturday at the exact time that I usually record with Yvonne.
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Sam:
[6:03]
| And meanwhile, of course, you know, she hadn't asked me, but now she's, I can't remember if it was a text or phone. It was probably a text. She texted, and I was on the text chain now where she was asking my wife whether she could come to this thing. And I'm like, I'm right here. What about me? It turns out that the League of Women Voters, the Snohomish County League of Women Voters, which is our county here in Washington state, was giving her an award for, she had been active in that organization, I guess, for a few years and hasn't been so much the last couple of years. She sort of stepped back from it, but they were giving her an award for the performance that she'd done or her contributions to the League of Women Voters over the time that she had been actively contributing. And there was a little lunch thing and, you know, they were going to give the award and, you know, and she got like one free ticket. Now, of course, the person she thought to invite for the one free ticket was not me. It was my wife, which, okay, it's the League of Women Voters. My wife is a woman. I am not. My wife is actually a politician. I am not.
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Sam:
[7:21]
| Although the League of Women Voters is fastidiously nonpartisan. Just to be absolutely clear on that, they don't endorse candidates. They don't endorse parties. They're all about building up engagement for voting and blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. It's not a partisan organization that support specific candidates. It's, you know, they used to host the presidential debates way back in the day before both parties decided they didn't want to do that anymore because the League of Women Voters allowed third parties in when they had a certain amount of support. Anyway, which, anyway, there's a whole history to that because then there's a whole history to that. Anyway, it's no longer done by the League of Women Voters but anyway.
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Sam:
[8:15]
| So anyway, I figured I'd ask Yvonne if he could move the time Yvonne responded by the fact he's getting on this bus with eighth graders. So he wasn't coming anyway. So I was like, okay, great. I can go to the event and I'll just do another solo show. And as you guys know, when I do a solo show, I do one segment at a time. I take long breaks in between. I was telling people, the event I had a Friday night was one of these Snohomish Podcast Network events. And I was telling people there about how when I do a solo show, you know, I break it up like this rather than do it all straight through. And, you know, they were interested in that. And we talked about that and different strategies for recording stuff. And there were all sorts of conversations. But anyway, it meant I could go to my mom's event. And since I did go to my mom's event, And since I did, you know, have my phone with me, I, of course, recorded the presentation of her award. And so I am going to play that.
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Sam:
[9:23]
| It's just a few minutes long, and then I'll take a break, and then I'll come back with movies, and then I'll come back with newsy stuff. And, you know, last week's show wasn't that long. Maybe we will have a relatively short show this week as well. We shall see. I never, I never am going to promise again because we went through a long period of time where every time I said something about doing a short show, we'd end up doing like a, you know, two and a half, three hour show or something crazy like that. Anyway. So here's a, here's the thing. enjoy. And, you know, look, I'm giving props to my mom. So, pay attention.
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Lisa U:
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| Our league has established a lovely animal tradition. Each year, we select and honor special members as the legends of the league. We started this year. How was it? 2016. Correct. It was a current or past and the general of a particular resolution for his long, significant, and influential service for the League is deeply at large. The winner's nominations are taken from all of the members, the winner is selected by the board and directors, and the names of this year's names have provided names from the legends of the League who preceded them. Those names are all in range from Miss Black. And now, we will present the Pearl of the Chewing Awards for this year. The award is set to be awarded in alphabetical order. The first Legend of the League award goes to Ruth, Brandon.
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Lisa U:
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| As the nominator wrote, occasionally one of your listeners is a member for the attribute of consistency. Ruth is known for her of course rightness, enchantment the underdog to be a voice of the voiceless. Ruth Prianda's constant efforts on behalf of social justice are amazing. She was taking stands on immigrants before their current crisis and visibility. And we've worked on that this year.
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Lisa U:
[11:58]
| And those who might deliver, they actually had a great presentation on immigrants, welcoming immigrants, studying that our state has approved immigrants now going to a national. Her life in service as a community pastor or overseas during the time in Africa provided with receptions that enriched the decision-making or goal-setting at every level of the League. A long-serving member of the Bucatio and then the Saturnian unit, Ruth was elected to the position of League Secretariat. She served numerous terms of that position. Sometimes they think it was a job that's so important, and you have to be on top of things. She still finds ways to stay connected while trying her hand at being retired. Ruth's ability to show up for each of the age of a meeting, offering considered ideas and opinions, are her hallmarks. Such valuable consistency strives the mission of our league in San Oshiani. I would like to recognize Ruth Browning as a legislative lead for 2026. Ruth. Please, Tana.
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Lisa U:
[13:22]
| And this is a, we have gifts and flowers for the League members. This is a collection, well, I shouldn't tell you. No. It's a surprise. But that's either worth. I'll ask our Legend of the League's people about that. Would you like to take that? Thank you very much. Sure.
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Sam:
[13:52]
| Thank you. And that's it. So, yeah, congratulations to my mom for some service she did for the League of Women Voters here in Snohomish County. And, you know, that's just stuff in the last few years. She's done all kinds of outstanding stuff throughout her entire lifetime. Now's probably not the time to go over it. I haven't prepared that whole biography of her or anything. But congrats. And yeah, like I said, I'm going to take a break now. Come back after some time. Don't know how much time. We'll see. At least a few hours. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm always tired these days. Tired. I can watch some TV with the kid. I should probably do something useful as well. Other useful things while there's like daylight out. But I might not. We'll see. Anyway, I'll come back, record more later. And yeah, enjoy this break.
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Sam:
[16:40]
| Well, hello. We are back. And as usual, I had lots and lots of time. It's actually now Monday, May 18th, just seconds before 6 UTC as I'm recording this, which means it's like 11 p.m. Sunday night Pacific time, 2 a.m. Eastern time on Monday. And yeah, I'm back. So I had an exciting day. I went, let's see, the rest of Saturday I did pretty much nothing. You know, I did nothing. I watched some TV with my son. And I was tired, and I don't know. I went to bed relatively early. I don't even remember. There has to have been more, but I really don't remember it. so what can I say? And then Sunday, Sunday, I woke up and I went to a coffee shop. I was like, I'm going to have like a mocha and like a pastry and ease my way into the day. And as soon as I get back from that, I will, I will record the segment of the podcast with the movies and stuff and then go from there. But while I was, like, arriving at the coffee shop.
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Sam:
[18:06]
| My wife Brandy texts me and says, Oh, by the way, this thing that she'd mentioned in passing, like, a week or two ago that I'd said, Yes, I'd be interested in going with her. Oh, by the way, it's this afternoon.
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Sam:
[18:24]
| And so this was, to be more specific, This was a fundraising thing for one of our local Democratic Congress people.
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Sam:
[18:37]
| Wasn't actually, like, our congressperson, who's Susan Delbeni. It was a nearby congressperson, specifically Representative Kim Schreier, who's, like, nearby. It's, like, one of the districts that's nearby. It's not our district, but it's one of the nearby ones. And at this point, my wife, being a state representative, for any of you who don't know, knows all our local congresspeople. And in fact, Kim Schreier was the first of our local congresspeople she met, I believe, because they attended together a sort of boot camp for new candidates.
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Sam:
[19:19]
| Like before Kim Schreier was even in Congress, before my wife was in the state, in the state house and like, you know, they got to know each other there. So they know each other and we were invited to this fundraiser thing. It was at the house of a local person who's, you know, well off enough that he's got a really nice big house to have events at like this. And so anyway, when she had mentioned this a couple weeks ago, I was like, yeah, of course, I'd love to go. But I want to make sure that I am like dressed appropriately. Because she's occasionally asked me to go to things like this, sort of political events where, you know, elected officials will be present, fundraisers, whatever, and go.
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Sam:
[20:09]
| On occasion, yeah, I've asked her, okay, how do I have to trust? What's the, and she's like, ah, whatever. You're, you're fine. You're fine. And so like what I normally wear on a day-to-day basis is jeans and a t-shirt. That's it. Like that has been my normal, this is what I wear thing for many, many, many years now. You know, over the years, you know, my, my uniform has changed a little bit. Sometimes I would do a t-shirt and then wear, you know, something over it, you know, like a long sleeve shirt, but usually open at various times earlier. I mean, back when I, before we were on the West Coast, when I was on the East Coast, we had to wear like ties to work sometimes, like when I was at Merrill Lynch. So I did that. But like for years and years and years now, it's been jeans and a t-shirt, jeans and a t-shirt, jeans and a t-shirt, jeans and a t-shirt, that's it.
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Sam:
[21:10]
| And on a few occasions, I've showed up at these things like that and ended up feeling underdressed and feeling very self-conscious about it. So, you know, when she mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, I was like, just make sure that, you know, I have what I need to be dressed properly because I don't actually have a good supply of, of things that aren't jeans and a t-shirt. So I'm lucky at any given moment, if any are clean, and even if they are clean, they're probably old. They may not fit properly anymore because I've lost some weight over the last couple of years. And so anyway, I was like, you know, tell me. So of course, when she actually texts me, it's less than four hours from when I'm supposed do this thing. And I just showed up at the coffee shop. So I, I sat down, I had my mocha, I had my little croissant. I, you know, sat there. I, I, I wrote an update to one of the Robins I'm in on robinletter.com, you know, and, and, you know, check out robinletter.com if you haven't already.
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Sam:
[22:22]
| Anyway. And, you know, so then I, by the time I got out of there, I had like three and a half hours till the thing. So I ran home to check what I had available. And I did have a relatively new, you know, pair of pants that would do. I had a relatively new shirt that would possibly do independently, but they didn't go well together. They were all like dark gray. So I'd be like in If I wore that combination, I'd just be 100% dark gray. And I felt like that, I didn't like that combination. Maybe it would have been okay. Maybe it wouldn't have. So I'm like, okay, I have to go shopping.
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Sam:
[23:05]
| I have to go shopping, find something appropriate. So I ran out to go shopping, went to a local store, found what I needed. And while I'm doing that, I'm like, you know, if you told me even a little bit earlier, I would have gotten a haircut too. And she texts back, well, maybe you have time.
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Sam:
[23:25]
| And I, you know, the place I normally get my haircut was like closed, like they weren't open on Sundays and it was Sunday afternoon. And, but I, you know, I, I did the Google Maps thing and it was like one of these, you know, chain haircut stores.
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Sam:
[23:44]
| I hesitate to call them either a barber or a hair salon or whatever is just a chair, chain haircut store. And it was like, you know, in the same little complex as the place where I'd gotten to close. So I'm like, what the hell? So I went and got a haircut too, then went home, took a shower. And by the time that was done, it was time to go to the event. And so, you know, so I went to the event and it was fun. It was interesting. You know, I was all prepared. If anybody there asked me about like my own life and how I was doing to, you know, give them the little like spiel of, you know, I was at Amazon for 20 years. I got laid off. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing next. I've got this Robin letter project going on. Maybe you'd be interested in that, blah, blah, blah. You know, cause you know, the room full of influential people that might be fun, but you know, nobody asked. I was just arm candy for Brandy, you know, So I basically followed her around and nodded politely as she had conversations with a variety of other people, many of which were elected officials in various positions or running to become elected officials in various positions, etc. So I, you know, I shook hands. I was introduced. I, you know, you know, and, you know, I had my nice, my nice new outfit, you know, I, you know, I was, you know.
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Sam:
[25:14]
| Nice, clean, new, crisp clothes that like were a little. Little dressier than jeans and a t-shirt. We're not talking super fancy here. We're not talking suit and tie. We're not talking anything like that. I do have a suit somewhere. I got it for the last time I had to go to something fancier because of course these events are so far apart that I always end up getting a new suit for them.
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Sam:
[25:45]
| But, and it's somewhere here. I think it needs to be cleaned before I can use it again. And I'm not sure exactly where it is. I didn't put it like where I normally put clothes because it's a suit. And so it needs to like go out to be cleaned. And if I put it where I normally put things, it would go through the laundry and be ruined. And I have in the past, it's been decades, but I did ruin two suits in a row by just throwing them in the laundry. And that was a bad thing. And I remember that was a bad thing. So I put it aside. But, of course, because I put it aside, I have no idea where it is at the moment. I think it's, like, up on a shelf somewhere. I don't know. But if something that required a suit came up, I think I'd be able to find it. But I would need enough notice so that I could get it cleaned. Because I'm sure the last time I wore it, I spilled something on it or something, like, I don't know. You know, I'm sure. I'm sure. right. There's no way I didn't. Right. I mean, I'm me.
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Sam:
[26:50]
| And so I'd have to deal with that. And, you know, and hopefully, like.
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Sam:
[26:57]
| And whatever happened to it, hopefully the fact that it's been sitting on a shelf for, I don't know, a year or two, wouldn't be a problem, you know, and they could still clean it. I don't know. I am not one for doing that. No, this is like, you know, it's like tan pants and, you know, maroon button down shirt with like a little bit of pattern in it. And, you know, I'm looking down at it because I'm still wearing it. And I got like something that was, I normally would have worn like a t-shirt under that. I got something that was slightly heavier than a normal t-shirt, but still like that kind of thing to wear under it. That was like just black. So there'd be like a little bit of black at my neck. And, you know, and, you know, I got the haircut. So it was good. Anyway, I, you know, I did not spend the entire time at this event thinking, oh my God, I'm in an old ratty t-shirt and some, you know, genes of indeterminate age and whatever. And so I was like, okay, I fit in. You know, I was at the same level of casualness as everybody else at this event. So, you know, that was fine. Anyway, by the time we got done with that, which of course was hours later.
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Sam:
[28:22]
| Brandy mentioned, and I'm sure she had mentioned this before, but to be honest... I was like, it was like she was telling me the whole talk, for the first time. I know she mentioned it multiple times before, but I just not internalized that in fact, she is leaving tomorrow morning for Denver for some event that she's going to, some conference, some thing where she's going to learn about something. I think it's education-related, schools, whatever. And, like, So she's catching a flight at 7.30 tomorrow morning, 7.30 Monday morning, and she also does not have the clothes she needs for this trip because we don't necessarily, you know, stuff may not be clean, but also she's lost a bunch of weight lately too. So she's got to get stuff that fits and looks decent or whatever that'll work for this. So we leave there to go shopping for her. And that, of course, takes several hours.
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Sam:
[29:28]
| And then we finally come home, and it's like, well, actually, we were going to go home, and we were going to stop to get food on the way to bring home to Alex. But the place we were going to get it from was closed, so we ended up going to a grocery store instead, getting some stuff. Then I got home, and I started to continue a movie with Alex that we had started yesterday while Brandy made some dinner for everybody and then we had dinner and blah, blah, blah and everything, blah, blah, blah. And... Now it's after 11 p.m. So that was my entire time. So that was my adventure. I'm sure you care deeply about that full adventure, but, you know, there it is. That's what it was. And so I'll tell you, now we're going to—I will do the movies and TV—well, the one movie and one TV show that I mentioned. But I'd also, before the end of the last segment, mentioned that Yvonne had said he might send us something. He, in fact, did send us the something. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to do the movie, I'm going to do the TV show, then I'm going to play what Yvonne sent.
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Sam:
[30:46]
| And honestly, I think I'm going to wrap up the show after that. This will leave us probably still with a relatively short show this week. But that's okay. That's okay. I'm okay with that. You guys might be okay with that too. For any of you who are still here, many of you may have already said, oh, this is just a show where Sam is rambling by himself without anybody to bounce it off of. And those shows suck. So I'm skipping this one. and if so, then you're not even hearing me say this. And that's okay. That's okay. Anyway. The movie, The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland. Yeah, from 1999.
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Sam:
[31:36]
| I'll read a couple things from the Wikipedia page and then give you my impressions. Of course, people are going to ask, why are you watching The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland? It's on my big master list. It's in my list in the category of owned but have not watched. And the reason it was in that is, of course, when Alex was really small and this was age appropriate for him, we had this thing. We bought it. We might have even had it in DVD at the time. But, like, of course, I wasn't finding the DVD, whatever. I streamed it. but.
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Sam:
[32:19]
| It was on this list because I could not remember having watched this thing, from beginning to end I was definitely aware of having seen parts of it coming in and out of the room while Alex was watching it, but not sit down, watch it all from beginning to end, and so I did some, with Alex anyway way.
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Sam:
[32:45]
| The Adventures of Elmo and Grouchland, or simply Elmo and Grouchland, is a 1999 American children's musical adventure comedy film directed by Gary Halverson in his feature directorial debut from a screenplay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, based on a story, blah, blah, blah. It was the second of the two theatrical films based on a children's television series, Sesame Street, after Sesame Street presents Follow That Bird in 1985, which, by the way, I don't know how long ago—we watched Follow That Bird not that long ago either. I don't know if I've already talked about it on here or whether that's yet to come, but just, I believe I may have actually given Follow That Bird a thumbs up. It was kind of fun. I have to admit, Follow That Bird, I mean, it was not high art, but it was kind of fun. Anyway, this one stars Mandy Patinkin and Vanessa Williams, alongside the regular Muppet performers. It features songs by a whole bunch of people, and yeah. Anyway, plot summary.
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Sam:
[34:10]
| Bert and Ernie open the film and provide commentary throughout the story. One day, Elmo plays with his blanket in his bedroom of his apartment until he accidentally spills orange juice on it and takes it to the laundromat.
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Sam:
[34:25]
| Afterward, he meets his friend Zoe, who is upset, so Elmo tries to cheer her up. Zoe wants to hold the blanket, but Elmo refuses to share it, leading to a tug-of-war that tears it, and a furious Elmo denounces Zoe as his friend. Until Telemonster, roller skating out of control, shows up and accidentally swipes the blanket, leading to a chase around Sesame Street, followed by Super Grover racing between them. The blanket ends up falling into the hands of Oscar the Grouch, who sneezes in and throws it in his trash can. Unwilling to wait for Oscar, Elmo dives into the bottom of the trash can, where he finds his blanket snagged on a door.
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Sam:
[35:13]
| Attempting to retrieve it, he and his blanket are teleported through a colorful swirling tunnel to Grouchland, a city filled with grouches, trash, and Huxley, a greedy man who steals anything he sees, including Elmo's blanket. A kind grouch girl named Grizzly tells Elmo that his blanket is in Huxley's Castle at the top of the faraway Mount Picanos. A plant named Stuckweed encourages Elmo that he will make it if he takes his first step. So Elmo sets out on a quest to retrieve his blanket. And it goes from there.
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Sam:
[35:58]
| Okay this movie could potentially be fun with you for you could potentially be fun for you.
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Sam:
[36:07]
| If you were five years old, this was clearly its target audience. It goes after that audience. I could see older toddlers, preschool kids enjoying this, having a laugh. This is not a movie that tries to be good for all ages. I think there might have been one or two little references in the whole thing that were like, okay, only the adults will get that but.
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Sam:
[36:46]
| The formula for a family movie is one that really tries to have elements that appeal to all ages the little kids will like it the medium kids will like it teenagers will like it Adults will like it. Everybody will have fun. This is not that kind of movie. This is a kind of movie that really and truly is aimed just at the little kids. And so therefore, you know, as an adult watching it with my 16-year-old, I cannot say either one of us were particularly entertained by this movie. It was kind of a slog to get through. If anything, there were some parts where we could laugh at how bad it seemed. It was not. No. Yeah. Yeah, and again, if you were five, it's probably just fine. It's probably not better than fine, but it's probably fine if you're five. I'm more than ten times that old. It was not fine for me.
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Sam:
[38:12]
| So, I'm debating how far a thumbs down to give it. I suppose if you grade it by its intended audience, it's a thumb sideways. For me, I'm not going to give it a straight thumbs down because...
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Sam:
[38:29]
| It would be fine for the five-year-olds. And I didn't, like, hate myself after watching it. But I didn't particularly enjoy it either. So, you know, between thumbs sideways and thumbs down. There you go. If you've got a five-year-old, feel free to put them in front of Elmo in Grouchland. But you might want to leave the room and do something else. You know?
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Sam:
[38:57]
| Or be looking at your phone. or I don't know. You don't have to. This is not going to occupy your attention as an adult. I'm sorry, it's just not going to. Watch Follow That Bird instead. You know? Which also is not like the best movie for grown-ups either, but it's better than this one. Okay, time for Cosmos. I had mentioned that there were three series of Cosmos, and we watched all of them. They're kind of like seasons, but not really. Each one is its own self-contained show. The 1981 is the one with Carl Sagan that everybody of our generation, of Gen X, if you were Gen X and you were a geeky kid, you watched Cosmos. Carl Sagan was like, you know, the core inspiration for many of us, okay? And the full name of the 1980s series was Cosmos, A Personal Voyage.
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Sam:
[40:12]
| And, you know, like I said, it's a classic. There was a book that went along with it. I remember, I think I have the book, somewhere. I certainly had the book when I was younger.
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Sam:
[40:26]
| And, you know, great stuff. You know, it's sort of all of the Carl Sagan's classics. He didn't really say billions and billions in the way that he was, like, parodied in quite the same way. But he did talk about billions a couple times. And, you know, it was an overview of, like, all kinds of different parts of science at the time with a concentration on space and space science, because that's where.
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Sam:
[41:03]
| Carl Sagan specialized. I mean, he worked on the Voyagers. He worked on the probes to Mars before that. You know, his specialty was planetary science and communication about that. And, but, you know, in the, in the series, he also talks about, you know, evolution and the, you know, biology and a few other things, but it's, it's all within sort of the context of, of the, you know, of the planets and the cosmos and the origins of the universe. He talks about the cosmic calendar thing where, you know, if you, if you put the entire universe into the 12 months, you know, we're in the last few seconds where humanity exists and all of this kind of stuff classic absolutely the 1980 version of this cosmos a personal voyage it still holds up today we got we watched this on a re-released we originally were looking some stuff online but like we couldn't get really good quality version of it so we found a yeah we ordered like a a dvd set of it that had been released, you know, a long time ago now.
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Sam:
[42:28]
| And actually, I would say the one thing that took me out of it that sort of annoyed me was that re-release on DVD, which was probably, I'm guessing, from around the year 2000.
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Sam:
[42:43]
| They tried to update it in a few places. And so, like, we'd be watching this documentary that came out in 1980, and all of a sudden there'd be a scene with kids on computers that didn't come out till way, way after 1980. You know, or something like that. And it was just a handful of scenes out of the whole, I think it was 13 episodes, this series. Yeah, 13 episodes. There were probably only a handful of minutes total across all of those episodes where they inserted updates like that. But each one of them took me out of it because I'm like, they did not have that scene in 1980.
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Sam:
[43:32]
| Carl Sagan was good, but he did not have a time machine, and he was not showing you these particular scenes that were obviously filmed 10, 15, 20 years later. I forget exactly when the DVD was produced. Now, I did not mind at all. They had little segments afterwards where Carl Sagan himself would come on camera, speaking directly to camera, and say, hey, in the time since this originally came out, here's additional things we have learned as we have further investigated the science and we've sent more probes out and we've done more experiments. And here's what we've learned since then. That was absolutely fine. But the places where they actually like dropped in and changed the original thing. And I was like, I don't like that. Anyway, there were two more seasons. In 2014, Cosmos, A Spacetime Journey. And then finally, in 2020, Cosmos, Possible Worlds. Now, both of these, Carl Sagan had obviously passed away by then. He died of cancer. When did he die? Of course, I have to look that up. Carl Sagan died in 1996.
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Sam:
[44:58]
| And, uh, let's see. What kind of... What did he, uh... What did he die of? Ah...
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Sam:
[45:08]
| Melidodysplasia. And he received three bone marrow transplants. He died from pneumonia at age 62 at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle. I didn't know that. But yeah. But Carl Sagan's widow, Ann Druyan, who was also very involved in the original.
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Sam:
[45:32]
| Cosmos, worked with Seth MacFarlane, you know, the same guy who did, like, Family Guy and, The Orville and a whole bunch of other things, came back on as producer, and Neil deGrasse Tyson was the host for both of the additional two series, the 2014 one and the 2020 one. Summary, I mean, let's just put it this way. They were fine. The 2014 version and the 2020 version were both fine. But Neil deGrasse Tyson is not Carl Sagan. Like, I'm sorry, some people like him. Other people point out that he's kind of an asshole in real life, apparently. I don't know, but I've never met the man. But there have been reports that I have heard. But, you know, it was fine. But it didn't feel like the same... And I don't know. Honestly, this may simply be because...
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Sam:
[46:42]
| When I originally watched the original Cosmos, I mean, 1980, I was nine years old.
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Sam:
[46:49]
| And this was like, you know, a major part of what drove my interest in these kinds of things. You know, it was a, it was one of those, whatever, a canonical event, you know, in my life was watching Cosmos. And this was back when you had to be in front of the TV when it was coming on TV, right? And Neil deGrasse Tyson just ain't that for me. So maybe that's all it is.
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Sam:
[47:18]
| But, you know, it was kind of interesting because in a couple of places, Neil deGrasse Tyson mentions places where his life intersected with Carl Sagan. Because apparently, you know, Carl Sagan agreeing to meet with him and talk to him when he was just starting to get into astrophysics as a very young man was, you know, a seminal event in Neil deGrasse Tyson's life as well. And that was cool, I guess. I liked those parts. And, you know, again, it wasn't a bad series. It was a, you know, it was a fairly decent, like, you know, let's have 13 episodes talking about various science things. Some of it retread the original Cosmos, but updated. Some of it covered new things. And it tried to have sort of the same general style, but updated a little bit. And that was fine.
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Sam:
[48:22]
| For the second one, I believe we did find it streaming somewhere, like, appropriate, I guess is the right way to say. I will say the 2020 version. None of the normal places had it. None of the normal places that you would think would have these kinds of things had it available. You could not, you know, I was like, can we buy it on DVD?
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Sam:
[48:48]
| Can we watch it on any of the streaming services? Like, I think the second one was on, you know, I gotta look it up. Where was the second one? The first one we could only find properly on DVD. The second one looking it up on just watch was on prime video it was on amazon prime video, interesting yeah but see but the the 2021 nowhere it was nowhere we could not find it anywhere apparently like it had been aired on fox both of these neil degrasse tyson series had been aired on on the Fox network when they were new. And apparently it had been streaming on Fox's website for a while, but no longer. We found a... Okay.
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Sam:
[49:42]
| Fox, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Seth MacFarlane, please don't come for me. I just wanted to watch your damn show. We found it on some Russian YouTube clone where we could, and all the episodes weren't even at the same place, I believe. There were a couple different places we had to get it. It was really sketchy. It worked weird in the browser, like, whatever. But we were able to get to it. We found it on something, and it had captions generated by some random guy in India on this Russian, sketchy YouTube clone thing. And anyway, we found it. And we watched all 13 episodes of the last one. But yeah that was that was it um and you know and and low quality too by the way like it was you know and we were you know we were putting it up on my projector from the phone and it was we watched it we watched it it was it was it was about the same as the second series it was decent It was quality, but again, like, it was not, it was not Carl Sagan. I miss Carl Sagan. He died young. If he had lived, he'd be, he'd be really old now.
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Sam:
[51:11]
| You know, yeah, when he died in the 90s, he was in his 60s. So, yeah, he'd be in his 90s now. But, ah, man, Carl Sagan was good. Watch his clips. You know, go watch the original Cosmos from 1980. Most of it still holds up. Some of this, we've moved on in science. We've learned a bunch of new things since he got there, but it still holds up. It's good.
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Sam:
[51:43]
| It's inspirational. Like, in this day and age, like, watching something that fundamentally, well, the Neil deGrasse Tyson ones tried to be more straightforwardly optimistic. The 1980 one had an optimistic tone. It was like hopeful, but it was also very, very tinged with the Cold War because it was like, we have all this potential if only we can manage not to destroy ourselves in the next 10 years. You know, that was like repeatedly over and over, like, you know, all of this potential, all of these things could be great. We could meet all these aliens, all kinds of stuff. We have, you know, civilization could advance and be wonderful and blah, blah, blah. If we don't blow ourselves all up in the next few years. You know, that's so like, you know, there was always that undertone in all of it. Anyway, that's it for my media for this time around. And now I'm going to play what Yvonne sent.
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Sam:
[52:54]
| And then after that, we'll wrap up the show. We can be done. It's fine. Ivan does actually talk some newsy stuff towards the end. Like the first part of his is not newsy. It's about where he is and why he's there and his experience is there and blah, blah, blah. I previewed it. But he does get to some newsy stuff at the end. So you will have a little bit of that. And then we'll wrap it up. Anyway, here comes Ivan.
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Ivan:
[53:23]
| Well, hello, and welcome to Carmudgeon's Corner on the Road. My name's Ivan Bowe. I'm not here with Samuel Mentor. I've been with a lot of things the last couple of weeks, not allowing me to be able to record stuff. Last week was Mother's Day, and that got complicated because I've been traveling a lot. And this week is Manu's eighth grade graduation. And they had an event that basically is a graduation trip to Orlando to Universal Studios with a lot of people from his school and a lot of schools. There must have been 10,000 middle schoolers at Universal Studios. I will admit, I've never been to Universal Studios Orlando. I've only been to Universal Studios in Hollywood.
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Ivan:
[54:21]
| I don't think we'll be going back again. Mano and I didn't particularly enjoy it. One interesting thing about it is that Universal Studios, one of the biggest properties they have, actually several of them, are all owned by Disney.
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Ivan:
[54:39]
| They have the Simpsons. They have an entire Simpsons land, which that is now owned by Disney. They also have all these Marvel character things And I was like wondering why And I forgot that sometime in the 90s Marvel almost went bankrupt, And in their desperation to save themselves, I mean, desperation in a stupid way Because there are so many ways of saving yourself And sometimes the thing is Some people don't want to cede control so they do stupid things. They had sold the rights to a number of characters to both Sony and Universal in perpetuity. And also, while deriving very little future income, it was just, these deals were just bad. They're just the kind of deals that you do when you're desperate. And so it's really weird that they have all these characters and apparently the deals are in perpetuity unless they stop using the characters for a certain period of time or stop issuing movies With a theme for a certain period of time, But it's just You know They don't own the properties The other thing is My conclusion after being at Universal Studios, It's like Tamo Disney. It really, truly is. It just really is.
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Ivan:
[56:07]
| Everything is just, you know, there is all this Harry Potter stuff. And actually, Manu likes Harry Potter. So he did go on a couple of the Harry Potter rides. But you see, they did something that at Disney you would have never done. They have this train, okay, that goes from London down to wherever the town of Harry Potter. I haven't read anything in books, so give me a fucking break, okay? But the train, you know, it goes from basically Universal Studios side to just Adventure side over there, whatever the fuck. The thing is that the train goes forwards and backwards. You see, if this was Disney, they would have done a loop. The train is going in the right direction, okay, in one way or another. But no, because they did a single track. and by the way this isn't even really a train at disney they actually have i mean there is a steam a real steam train going around magic kingdom now they they have this thing that's just on pulleys and things it's a it's not a real train and then it only goes in one direction it's stupid it's just fucking stupid it's just it's just dumb and i gotta admit i it's the place was designed by the same people to design casinos.
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Ivan:
[57:24]
| Because it's like, I kept getting into like, trying to figure out how to get around the fucking park. And I kept hitting dead ends and not being able to get around or not be able to get to where the fuck I was looking for. Plus one thing that wasn't really clear, somebody said, hey, use the map, is that the parks aren't really connected that well either. And then they actually had made another connection between areas in a park that wasn't on the maps.
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Ivan:
[57:53]
| So I kept getting lost. I was really irritated and tired. Look, this thing was, we rode up on a bus, and I rode up in this bus. I volunteered to ride this bus with about 60, 70 eighth graders. I don't know. What the fuck? I was thinking. It was okay, but I'll never do this again. And then we're there all day, and they were supposed to go back on a bus at 1145 at midnight. And I, very in advance, said, this is insane. I'm not going back at midnight on a fucking bus. No way. So I told my wife to drive up, go to a hotel, and we'll sleep. You know, we'll stay the weekend over here and go to Disney. I mean, since we've got the annual pass, so we'll spend it at a hotel, whatever. So we came. We're staying at a hotel. We're going actually back today. so that's where we're at but my thing is Universal, look if you can afford Disney, go to fucking Disney just don't either and the thing is also, it depends on what characters you like it feels like some of the rides are just like okay, Jurassic Park, fuck isn't Jurassic Park so, I mean is Jurassic Park really like Surfstone Park.
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Ivan:
[59:13]
| Rides I I don't know Well, the thing is, it pissed me off more, was that, okay, there was one ride at Jurassic Park that we wanted to take, and we got to the ride, and it was fucking closed. There were, like, a couple of rides that I wanted to take, and I got to them, and they were fucking closed. I was just, that really, I think at the second ride that we got that I was closed, I was like, okay, we're done. And we didn't stay until midnight. It was like, look, the day had been quite long. It was, like, around 10 o'clock, and I'm like, let's just get the fuck out of here. And then, of course, I struggled to get out of the park because the signage is abominable at this place.
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Ivan:
[59:51]
| It's like a casino. It's trying to make you feel trapped. And then I tried to order an Uber. And first, when I had the Uber, I couldn't find the damn Uber pickup, whatever. So, I mean, I'm trying to remember the last time. I've been so lost somewhere. It was crazy. And when I went to pick my ride, which said it was $49 to get to the hotel, Well, the price doubled to like a hundred for 12 mile ride. I mean, I'm not even, I was like, what the fuck? So anyway, so that was like, shit. Anyway, in the news this week, one thing I did want to talk about, aside from the fact that Trump went to China. He was lampooned by the President Xi. The worst thing is he is so fucking dumb. He doesn't realize that President Xi was making fun of him the entire fucking trip. It's just ridiculous. I mean, they put him in a lower chair. He kept saying snide remarks. Really, the final act was he gave him seeds for the Rose Garden. Fucking Goron, not really. He just said, I'm a Rose Garden until flat disease, because now it's all cement.
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Ivan:
[1:01:00]
| But, you know, who could have foretold that inflation was going to soar? And I guess they couldn't even keep it off the official metrics, but the official inflation statistics showed exactly what they're saying, but inflation is through the roof. And oh, by the way, says the foreigners pay the tariffs. Trump decided to cut tariffs on beef to lower beef prices. So I guess them foreigners aren't paying for the tariffs, huh? Fucking idiot. I mean, it's just, it's just everything is always like this with this fucking administration. And I guess the Iran war is, well, here's, I guess we're not doing as much shooting But, The main outcome right now Is that Straight-up-Harmouz is closed That's it I mean, And I don't know They keep talking Like they're supposedly talking But It never gets anywhere We just keep going around in circles In circles and circles.
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Ivan:
[1:02:05]
| A complete waste of a trip to China. It gained absolutely, I'm not sure what the hell he was trying to gain because as far as I could tell, absolutely nothing was gained by this trip. I'm not sure if anybody could think of any outcome that was a gain for America. Usually, on a lot of these trips, diplomats go and work things ahead of time in order for certain achievements to be announced at them. It's kind of like, to me, like trade shows that we do. We're negotiating a deal with people And then we make a big announcement At the trade show, But Trump thinks that he is the only one That can make a deal Whatever the fuck it is.
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Ivan:
[1:02:49]
| He went to China And looked like an idiot And gained nothing As far as I can tell Unless somebody's got something They can tell me that they gained Another fucking Waste of time, I guess there's no money for the ballroom. There's no private donors. There's no... Congress tried to, I guess, authorize the money, and that's not going anywhere. And I saw also that Louisiana Senator Cassidy got his ass kicked. You know, these guys never understand that bowing to him never works.
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Ivan:
[1:03:33]
| I mean, either You're either going to be firm on one side to the other, playing both sides. You get fucked. Trump always fucks everybody anyway, eventually. Is that how it's Kash Patel going and swimming over the graves at Arizona and Hawaii, huh? Nice, huh? I really want all these fuckers impeached. These people need to be impeached, jailed, something. Jeez, this midterm could not come sooner. I really think that no matter what the hell's going on with this gerrymander situation. The reality is that public sentiment across the board in terms of the economy, inflation, just everything in general is really bad. Like, there's a survey that they asked people recently, and I said that, you know, the question was improperly placed, but I think people answered it in this way. And it was about, A, are prices better now than they were during Biden? Well, no, but the problem is, Look, prices, unless you're in a deflationary economy, which the U.S. Hasn't been in such a cycle in a very long time. We had downed housing prices, but we really weren't in deflation in general in terms of wages, prices, that kind of stuff.
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Ivan:
[1:04:48]
| Prices are always going up, little by little. Deflationary cycles are very, you know, they usually, like Japan had deflation in some periods of time. But, you know, this was like after the 90s, after their housing and stock market bubble popped, because their bubble was insane. It was like the Dutch bubble. Prices are always going up. The question is affordability. and that's the one where the Americans failed to test because during Biden they kept complaining about the rising prices but people are not.
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Ivan:
[1:05:24]
| Are totally forgetting is that affordability was actually better for multiple reasons number one is because inflation because wages were rising faster than inflation critical thing critical thing wages are rising faster than inflation inflation was spiked by a couple of things the pandemic and also by you know the ukraine war neither of them which were biden's fault but Affordability was improving substantially. He had low mortgages. Housing affordability was good in that sense. Wages were up. That improved affordability as well. And Biden was doing a lot of things in order to try to get inflation under control. But also people were getting help. I mean, for a year, they're getting child credit checks and other things that were being done to help affordability. Student loan relief.
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Ivan:
[1:06:19]
| Health insurance subsidies, just across the board, so many actions to help affordability. All of them have been undone by Trump. And he also started a war that spiked inflation and made it worse. But also last year, started this entire tariff war that also spiked inflation and worsened affordability across the board. And on the other hand, killed all the programs that helped create jobs and give you money and scared all the companies like the Koreans is investing billions in clean energy from investing in it. I mean, he's literally saying every fucking action that's the thing. To the detriment of the economy. I mean, to the pocketbooks of Americans. He still wants to get his fucking ball. Or is that? Anyway, I just, you know, so I wasn't in. I wanted to give a quick update on what the fuck is going on. Trump sucks still. Go fuck himself. And all the assholes that enabled him as well. Okay? All right, guys. Take care. Bye.
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Sam:
[1:07:29]
| Okay. That was Yvonne's update. Right. And here back as I'm recording this, it's just a couple of minutes before midnight. Here I am on Pacific time and I have to be up in like five hours to take Brandy to the airport. So, yeah, I better just wrap this sucker up. So, apologies. I'm not going to give my own news reactions this time around. But, yeah, you got some of that from Yvonne. Good enough. Good enough, right? Right? And if not, to the fuck. To the fuck bad. You know? What the hell? Anyway, that's it. To the fuck bad. Is that the right way to say that? I don't know. It was trying.
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Sam:
[1:08:18]
| Whatever, you know, good now. Anyway, go to commudgeons-corner.com. You know the deal. You can find our archives there. You can find transcripts of the show. You can find all the ways to contact us. And importantly, you can also find our Patreon where you can give us money at various levels. We will mention you on the show. We will ring a bell. We will send you a postcard. We will send you a mug. And importantly, at $2 a month, I always blah, blah, blah, blah, right around that part. At $2 a month or more, or if you just ask us, we will invite you to the Curmudgeon's Corner Slack, where Yvonne and I and a variety of our other listeners are chatting throughout the week, sharing links, all of that kind of stuff. I will share one item from there. This one was one I shared. The original article I shared from was from The Independent, which is a UK publication published on Friday, July 15th by Shweta Sharma. And the title of this article is, Elon Musk's father reveals he has had a second child with his own stepdaughter.
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Sam:
[1:09:37]
| I'll read you the beginning of the article. Elon Musk's father has revealed that he had a second secret unplanned child with his stepdaughter three years ago. Errol Musk, 76, and his stepdaughter, Jaina Bezuidenhout, 35, had a baby girl in 2019. Two years before that, he had admitted that Ms. Bezenduhout, 42 years his junior, had given birth to a baby boy named Elliot Rush, who is now five years old. Jaina B.
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Sam:
[1:10:20]
| Zuhdenhout was only four when Mr. Musk married her mother, Heidi. They were married for 18 years and had two children besides Heidi's three children, including Jana, from a previous marriage. The arrival of Elliot Rush in 2017 reportedly split the family and caused a rift between Errol and Elon Musk. The Tesla CEO, who has nine children and recently claimed he was helping the underpopulation crisis, reportedly went berserk a few years ago on finding out that the senior Musk had fathered a child with his stepdaughter while his other siblings were shocked. While revealing the latest birth to the son, Errol Musk seemed to reason that making children was his only purpose. The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce, he said. If I could have another child, I would. I can't see any reason not to. If I had thought about it then, Elon or Kimball, Elon Musk's younger brother, wouldn't exist. He added that the new child, his seventh, looked just like his other children. I haven't checked her DNA, but she looks just like my other daughters. She looks like Rose and Tosca mixed up, he said.
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Sam:
[1:11:42]
| Rose, or Asha Rose Musk, is one of the two children Mr. Musk had with Heidi Bezu and Trout, while Tosca Musk is his daughter with his first wife, Mae Musk. Anyway, dot, dot, dot, the article continues and goes on in a bit more length, but all I can say, the Musks are gross. I think Ed said on our Slack, something along the lines of the apple falling not far from the tree, etc., etc.
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Sam:
[1:12:14]
| Like, really, come on, people. First of all, this whole, like, the world is underpopulated and we need more people. No, no, we don't. It's fine. The fact that the population is leveling off is probably a good thing. And I'm not going to go all like, you know, what was that guy? Malthusian. The Malthusian crisis that there were too many people and we have to, you know, we're not, I'm not like going like the whole world is in crisis because it's got too many people. We clearly have enough resources that if they were distributed properly, which they are not, we could take care of everybody. But at the same time, it seems fairly obvious that you can't do exponential growth forever, or you do run into issues. Duh!
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Sam:
[1:13:03]
| And that goes for our use of fossil fuels, that goes for population, that goes for everything. You can't do exponential growth forever. At some point, you have to level off and maybe reduce a little bit. And it's absolutely fine that we do so. Does it require changes to how we think about a lot of things? Yes, it does. But, you know, anyway... These people who are like, we have to have as many kids as humanly possible. No, no, no, you really don't. Not only do we not need to increase the population that much anyway, but the people who think like that are the last people you want reproducing. They're the ones you want not to have kids. Come on, please, exclude them. Like, they don't have to infect the world with more of themselves. Please, come on.
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Sam:
[1:14:00]
| Anyway, and not to mention, your own stepdaughter, ew. I know you're not actually related to her, but still, ew. And, you know, and frankly, like, the 42-year age difference, no. Come on. You knew the girl when she—and not only a 42-year-old age difference, but you knew the girl when she was four years old. No, no, no, no, no. No.
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Sam:
[1:14:36]
| You know, I keep coming back. Tim Walls was the best thing that happened to the fucking Kamala Harris campaign. And then halfway through the damn campaign, they shut him up. But what he was talking about, about how these people are weird. They're a bunch of fucking freaks. and actually go after them. It was working, goddammit. It was like, you know, point out all the reasons that they're weirdo freaks, you know, obsessed with, like, kids' genitals and all of this stuff. And I'm referring to, like, all the trans panic there. But, like, you know, ugh. And you had, like, RF, you know, all of these people. RFK was talking about the sperm count of teenagers, about teenage boys' sperm count being low. And someone else was using the term under-babied and... Come on, they were a bunch of fucking freaks. Anyway, why did they have to shut up Tim Walz? He was speaking truth and people liked it. God damn it. Anyway.
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Sam:
[1:15:59]
| Somebody needs to do that, No, make fun of them. That's, that's the way to burst their damn bubble. Anyway, whatever. One, I mean, Donald Trump's doing his own, like, like destroy the economy is another way, of course, but yeah, make fun of them, ostracize them. Can we go, as Yvonne has said multiple times this week on the Comerge's Corner Slack, We miss the days where when people said obviously racist shit, they were ostracized from polite society. Can we go back? I mean, all kinds of other things weren't good and needed to be improved. But at least, like, now we have people being outright overtly evil and getting no repercussions for it whatsoever. Ah, whatever. Anyway, we are done. Thank you, everybody, for joining us for yet another Convention Corner Us. Well, Yvonne was here by proxy. He sent his, like, recording. Thank you all for listening yet again. We will have another show next week. Hopefully, Yvonne will make it next week. Never know. Hopefully, I will make it next week. You never know. Never know. Never know.
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Sam:
[1:17:24]
| Ah. I still have to put this thing together and then get it out and then go to the airport. Why am I still talking? It's now after midnight. Goodbye, folks. Bye. Thank you. Okay. Bye, folks.
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