WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:00.850 Can you hear me? 00:00:01.430 --> 00:00:09.150 I can hear you. I'm using my other buds that I have that don't have a good battery life. 00:00:11.390 --> 00:00:11.950 Okay. 00:00:12.150 --> 00:00:13.830 Which is their biggest problem. 00:00:14.530 --> 00:00:18.390 Okay. Well, I'll do our best. Okay. 00:00:20.030 --> 00:00:23.830 Shall we just go then? Here we go. 00:00:45.220 --> 00:00:51.520 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, January 31st, 2026. 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:55.400 It's just before 1830 UTC as we're starting to record. 00:00:55.700 --> 00:00:58.820 I'm Sam Mentor, Yvonne Bow is back with us this week. Hello, Yvonne. 00:00:59.600 --> 00:00:59.860 Hello. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.880 It's been an exciting two weeks for both of us. 00:01:05.800 --> 00:01:09.620 Oh, God. Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. 00:01:10.060 --> 00:01:11.340 Yeah. So anyway. 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.920 How are you? Well, let's start with you. How are you feeling? 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:19.840 I am recovering. My energy is still a little bit low. 00:01:20.580 --> 00:01:23.760 I've still got a tube sticking out of my side. 00:01:24.420 --> 00:01:24.900 Nice. 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.560 They're supposed to call me Monday to make an appointment to get it taken out 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:33.080 and finish up all the other stuff they have to do to me. 00:01:33.700 --> 00:01:37.560 But I'm basically feeling okay. Just a little low energy. 00:01:38.140 --> 00:01:41.620 Like, you know, I get tired easily. You know, that kind of stuff. 00:01:41.880 --> 00:01:43.240 I've been sleeping a lot. 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.420 Is it like Jeb style, low energy or? 00:01:47.180 --> 00:01:50.440 Yeah, definitely Jeb style. No, I, 00:01:51.100 --> 00:01:57.820 you know, but basically I'm feeling okay, you know, so I've, 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:02.180 they, they, you know, I'm still taking antibiotics three times a day, 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.700 you know, fun stuff like that, you know, but, 00:02:06.790 --> 00:02:10.730 But, yeah, like, much, much better than I was. 00:02:11.350 --> 00:02:12.450 Ah, great. 00:02:12.690 --> 00:02:12.990 So. 00:02:13.110 --> 00:02:20.370 That's good. Well, that's good. I mean, but what do the doctors say about next 00:02:20.370 --> 00:02:21.790 steps, I guess, at this point? 00:02:22.350 --> 00:02:24.530 Oh, well, the next step is they take. 00:02:24.530 --> 00:02:25.330 Aside from getting the tube out. 00:02:25.910 --> 00:02:30.590 They take my tube out. They take out a couple kidney stones that were in there causing problems. 00:02:30.890 --> 00:02:38.110 And then that's it, I guess. They may once again, like, this is a new doctor 00:02:38.110 --> 00:02:41.810 looking at this for the first time, so they may once again, you know, 00:02:43.850 --> 00:02:52.450 give me general advice on, like, you know, hey, maybe just diet a little bit here or there. 00:02:53.050 --> 00:02:58.290 Maybe drugs, like, for, like, kidney stone prevention. 00:02:58.290 --> 00:03:02.470 I don't know. So, I mean, you know, multiple doctors have talked to me about 00:03:02.470 --> 00:03:06.530 this since I was 25 years old and never really given me anything super actionable 00:03:06.530 --> 00:03:09.110 other than deal with them when they happen. 00:03:09.410 --> 00:03:15.390 But we'll see. Another doc will give a shot at it, I guess. Well, I guess my question is. 00:03:15.470 --> 00:03:24.530 I don't know. I mean, has treatment for this really changed in that time span? 00:03:24.810 --> 00:03:26.630 I gather not really. 00:03:27.210 --> 00:03:27.730 Okay. 00:03:27.730 --> 00:03:32.690 And, you know, but, you know, and this is the first time, like, 00:03:32.770 --> 00:03:37.570 they suspect my kidney and bladder infections, the root cause, 00:03:37.730 --> 00:03:41.050 where there were a couple kidney stones that got caught. 00:03:41.510 --> 00:03:49.270 They weren't too big to pass, but they got caught in a position where they weren't moving any further. 00:03:49.750 --> 00:03:52.470 And they were just causing problems. 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:58.000 You know, they were actually still in the kidney, but they were in a part of 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.840 the kidney where they couldn't get out and they were, you know, 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:04.640 just sitting there getting infected. 00:04:05.460 --> 00:04:06.020 Nice. 00:04:06.380 --> 00:04:06.740 Yeah. 00:04:07.100 --> 00:04:08.060 Very nice. 00:04:08.260 --> 00:04:17.820 And so, yeah, so they're going to go and fish those things out whenever my next appointment is. 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.520 I don't have the appointment yet. I called yesterday to, like, 00:04:21.540 --> 00:04:25.220 make the appointment. I was like, they said call in a week if I hadn't heard 00:04:25.220 --> 00:04:27.880 from you guys, and I haven't heard from you guys, so I'm calling now. 00:04:28.140 --> 00:04:30.220 And they're like, eh, we'll call you Monday. 00:04:32.200 --> 00:04:33.200 So now I have to go. 00:04:33.200 --> 00:04:36.040 I wonder, what are kidney stones made out of? 00:04:37.760 --> 00:04:44.140 They come in a variety of different kinds. Often calcium, but there are other types as well. 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:51.100 So, and I forget. I have had a couple of mine over the years sent to the lab 00:04:51.100 --> 00:04:54.580 and, you know, but I forget. 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.260 Like what? I think I've had some calcium ones. I think I might have had something 00:04:59.260 --> 00:05:00.980 else too. I don't know. It's been years. 00:05:01.140 --> 00:05:03.860 Like way back, like decade plus ago. I see. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.740 I'm looking it up. I caught a couple of them. 00:05:05.860 --> 00:05:06.500 Sent them to the lab. 00:05:06.520 --> 00:05:13.340 Kittany stones are crystallized minerals, mostly consisting of calcium oxalate, 00:05:13.760 --> 00:05:15.440 calcium phosphate. Yep. 00:05:16.780 --> 00:05:21.900 It's not like we could mine you for minerals, I guess. We can't use you to make 00:05:21.900 --> 00:05:24.360 car batteries or something. Fuck. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:25.560 No, that would be nice. 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.760 I mean, I was just hoping we could just milk you for, like, you know, 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.720 start making, like, batteries for electric vehicles or something. 00:05:35.180 --> 00:05:37.140 Maybe that's, like, an industry that we could do. 00:05:37.760 --> 00:05:42.240 That would be nice. I am looking for side gigs. 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:47.400 Yes. You know, you could just, you know, you could just, you know, 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:53.140 spew out rocks that we could turn into, you know, you know, EV batteries. 00:05:53.400 --> 00:05:57.540 I mean, that sounds like a, you know, pretty good idea, but apparently not. 00:05:57.900 --> 00:06:01.620 There's a plan. No, no, it doesn't work that way. 00:06:01.660 --> 00:06:02.100 No, it doesn't. 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.840 You know, it's not, it's not like I'm putting out platinum or something. 00:06:06.900 --> 00:06:11.760 Damn it. Gold, platinum, silver, something. 00:06:12.260 --> 00:06:15.740 Okay, so enough about me. What's the update on your family? 00:06:15.880 --> 00:06:20.500 I did mention to folks, you know, last week that your son had an issue. 00:06:20.500 --> 00:06:25.320 Here's how this went. Friday night, Manu was going out to our balcony where 00:06:25.320 --> 00:06:28.860 we have this hammock, which he does all the time. Okay? 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.740 And I think he was, he just... 00:06:34.080 --> 00:06:39.520 Was just tripped accidentally on the sliding door frame. 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:45.440 So, you know, we have a glass slider that goes out there, but this being Florida 00:06:45.440 --> 00:06:51.280 and us having upgraded the windows here, it's impact glass slider. 00:06:51.500 --> 00:06:56.500 So it's meant to withstand hurricane strength winds without you having to cover 00:06:56.500 --> 00:06:58.440 it with shutters or anything, okay? 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:05.000 So one of the things about that is that the frame itself is a lot But it makes 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:10.940 it that there is a big threshold step in front of it. 00:07:10.940 --> 00:07:17.520 Because so if the wind pushes on the glass, so it stays in place. Okay. 00:07:17.900 --> 00:07:21.160 It won't. Because one of the things that happens with like old regular sliding 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.760 doors is that the winds will pop it out of the usual rails. 00:07:25.900 --> 00:07:29.480 The usual rails are there. You know, old sliders, you could just, 00:07:29.500 --> 00:07:33.700 like, lift up and, like, off the rail and, like, take out pretty easily. 00:07:34.140 --> 00:07:36.000 But this is meant, no. 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:42.840 If you want to take this out of its rails, it needs, you know, 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:44.300 you need specialized tools. 00:07:44.500 --> 00:07:48.380 And it's meant to, like, withstand the force of a Cat 5 hurricane, okay? 00:07:49.260 --> 00:07:53.440 So, and the impact of a, I mean, it's not bulletproof. 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:59.180 But it will take a very large object at high speed, and it'll slam into it, 00:07:59.260 --> 00:08:02.660 and it will pop out of the frame, and the glass may shatter, 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.820 but it'll stay in place, okay? 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:13.900 So, he was just, you know, going too fast, tripped, and he had his iPad in his arms, and... 00:08:14.960 --> 00:08:20.820 And I think it was more important to him and his mind to protect the iPad than to protect the body. 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:22.240 Mm-hmm. 00:08:22.700 --> 00:08:25.580 So the iPad was fine. His arm was broken. 00:08:27.620 --> 00:08:32.740 So let me envision. He falls off the hammock. He's heading towards the sliver. 00:08:32.740 --> 00:08:34.360 No, no, no. He's walking towards the hammock. 00:08:34.380 --> 00:08:35.640 He's walking and he trips. 00:08:35.920 --> 00:08:40.400 He trips on the sliding door threshold. 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:44.200 So I was thinking his arm hit the threshold, though. He tripped over the threshold. 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:45.180 His arm is just. 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:45.900 At the floor. 00:08:45.900 --> 00:08:49.640 Yeah okay quite hard yes and 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:54.840 uh i heard the thud and sometimes the thud is he drops something or whatever 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:01.280 but then i hear it screaming and i'm like well that's not normal right i you 00:09:01.280 --> 00:09:09.280 know i was he i've had like a a lot it's not always when people get broken bones, 00:09:09.760 --> 00:09:12.780 You'll see black and blue marks or something or whatever. 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:15.420 Our neighbor who's a paramedic took a look at it. 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:21.440 It wasn't swollen. We weren't sure if it was broken or not. And the pain was subsiding. 00:09:23.100 --> 00:09:26.420 So at first we're like, it might not be broken. 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:30.380 Okay? It's not the elbow. He did point specifically to the forearm, 00:09:30.460 --> 00:09:32.940 to the exact spot where the brake was. Okay. 00:09:33.580 --> 00:09:40.200 And so we're like, look, let's observe. If it swells, then we got to take some 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:41.700 action. Next morning was swollen. 00:09:42.740 --> 00:09:47.440 So we took him to urgent care and they took an x-ray and it was like i mean 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:51.820 it you didn't need a radiologist to figure out it was broken right you could 00:09:51.820 --> 00:09:57.620 see oh god yeah i was just like playing you know you know plain as day so he 00:09:57.620 --> 00:10:00.300 said look you need to go to an orthopedic specialist, 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:08.100 made some calls i i i was able to get an appointment knowing some people a relative of mine. 00:10:08.260 --> 00:10:10.980 We were able to get an appointment very quick on Monday afternoon. 00:10:12.660 --> 00:10:16.480 He saw him and he said, this needs surgery. 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.940 I thought for sure. I saw it and I'm like, nah, this is going to need surgery. There's no way. 00:10:21.160 --> 00:10:27.280 The bone is too... It was so moved off where it needs to be that if we just 00:10:27.280 --> 00:10:30.040 let it heal there, it was going to heal all wrong. 00:10:30.860 --> 00:10:31.020 Right. 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:36.960 So he needed surgery. So we got out on Monday. They scheduled the surgery. It was Wednesday at... 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.840 7.30 a.m. We were there at the hospital and they did the surgery and it was 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.140 successful. Everything went well. 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:48.000 So was this like just push the bones back into the right place or did they have 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.020 like metal and all that kind of stuff holding in place? 00:10:50.020 --> 00:10:53.120 They put a plate. They put a plate to hold it in place. 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:56.000 And it's a plate that apparently he could stay for the rest of his life because 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.160 there are two options. He told me those are a prong or some plate. 00:10:58.160 --> 00:11:01.020 That's going to be the next question. Permanent plate or something they take out later? 00:11:01.040 --> 00:11:05.520 It's a permanent one. So because he wanted to avoid the one that we had to go 00:11:05.520 --> 00:11:09.400 back in and do that. So he put a permanent one. 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:13.420 So you have a bionic kid now. 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:18.420 So he's been, you know, resting a lot, sleeping, but his energy has been, 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:22.420 he's been reporting very little pain like right now. 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.000 And, uh, probably he's going to go back to school on Monday. 00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:31.580 So, but, but he's, you know, he's in a cast. It's going to be six weeks with a cast. 00:11:32.140 --> 00:11:37.460 And so, you know, but, but he's, he's, he's, he's recovering quite well. 00:11:38.140 --> 00:11:43.780 So, but, uh, I, uh, I got it, but I, uh, 00:11:45.900 --> 00:11:50.480 It's a little scary having your child in surgery. I was a little bit like... 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:51.500 Oh, yeah. 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:52.740 I don't... 00:11:52.740 --> 00:11:56.260 I mean, I have not had my child in surgery. I have now had my wife in surgery, 00:11:56.400 --> 00:11:59.320 my mother in surgery, and myself in surgery. 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:04.260 But so far, Alex has avoided it, and I'm crossing my fingers it stays that way for a while. 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:10.460 I mean, I... So I was not... I was a little bit... 00:12:11.340 --> 00:12:16.960 But everything came out fine. So, you know, he's going back to school on Monday, 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:19.200 so everything should be fine. So. 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:20.940 Wear a cast for a while? 00:12:21.420 --> 00:12:22.260 Six weeks. 00:12:22.780 --> 00:12:23.260 Okay. 00:12:23.900 --> 00:12:29.900 Yeah. So. I'm getting a little bit really fucking irritated with the. 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.360 I mean, I had surgery in November. My father had surgery in December. 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.080 And now my son had surgery in January. 00:12:38.460 --> 00:12:41.240 He's getting pretty fucking tired of this shit. 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:48.620 Everything. It's fucking, you know, these two weeks, everything, you know... 00:12:49.730 --> 00:13:01.970 You know, and one thing that I, man, I, this entire era of Trumpism and MAGA-ism, 00:13:02.650 --> 00:13:08.690 one thing that I've noticed in society that it's unleashed is just a lot more general dishonesty. 00:13:09.270 --> 00:13:14.290 Okay. I noticed you'd put this on the topic list. Go ahead. 00:13:14.290 --> 00:13:17.590 Yeah, I did, because I wanted to mention, it's just, Sam, it's just, 00:13:17.750 --> 00:13:29.890 I am just flabbergasted at just the overall level of just outright dishonesty 00:13:29.890 --> 00:13:33.670 that people feel emboldened to engage in now. 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:39.490 That it's just so much worse. You know, it's like the other day somebody asked 00:13:39.490 --> 00:13:45.650 about, I don't understand about all these people that actually use their names on social media. 00:13:46.130 --> 00:13:47.810 And I realize that. 00:13:48.170 --> 00:13:49.570 Like use their real names? 00:13:49.910 --> 00:13:50.390 Yeah. 00:13:50.990 --> 00:13:51.410 Okay. 00:13:51.770 --> 00:13:56.430 And I realize that a large part of it is that so many people want to be anonymous trolls. 00:13:57.790 --> 00:14:03.750 That obviously if you use your real name, then you're exposing yourself, right? 00:14:04.650 --> 00:14:05.610 Well, yes. 00:14:05.610 --> 00:14:08.990 Just like the masked fucking ICE agents. 00:14:09.670 --> 00:14:13.870 Like, there was a thing yesterday. Well, if all these ICE agents said that they 00:14:13.870 --> 00:14:16.250 have to do their job without a mask, then they're going to quit. 00:14:18.590 --> 00:14:19.350 So sad. 00:14:19.490 --> 00:14:20.190 I'm like... 00:14:22.580 --> 00:14:28.140 You see what I'm saying, the pattern? It's just everybody wants to be able to 00:14:28.140 --> 00:14:33.780 be a liar and a con artist and not be accountable for their shit. 00:14:35.300 --> 00:14:39.700 Or maybe not everybody, but a lot more people than we used to deal with. 00:14:40.020 --> 00:14:44.020 I was going to say not everybody, but at the same time, you're right that there's 00:14:44.020 --> 00:14:48.660 certainly a lot of that. And there's certainly a lot of, you know, 00:14:48.900 --> 00:14:53.400 people wanting to be able to hide behind online personas. 00:14:54.020 --> 00:14:54.200 Yeah. 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:59.700 And look, people have always, like, people in entertainment have always had 00:14:59.700 --> 00:15:02.120 stage names. This is not a new thing, right? 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.960 Yeah, but a stage name is one thing. You're showing your face. 00:15:05.780 --> 00:15:09.680 Everybody knows. You know, you go and, like, somebody uses a stage name. 00:15:10.400 --> 00:15:15.640 Everybody knows that. Most of the time, that's different. That's marketing, okay? 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:24.640 You know, because, you know, I don't know, Felix Unger doesn't sound the same as Shakira. 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:30.000 Well, actually, Shakira is a real name. So that's a bad example. Terrible example. OK. 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:32.360 Madonna's a real name, too. 00:15:32.940 --> 00:15:37.400 Yeah. Madonna's a real name, too. Fuck. So that doesn't work either. 00:15:37.880 --> 00:15:39.500 But there are lots of examples. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.160 Yeah. But if I can't come up with one because I'm an idiot right now. 00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:44.760 But, you know, there's lots of examples. 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:51.220 Well, here's one, which actually is kind of stupid. 00:15:51.380 --> 00:15:55.180 Charlie Sheen, because that's not the real name or nor his dad's. 00:15:55.780 --> 00:16:00.040 They're, you know, they're Estevez is a real last name. 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.280 But, you know, back then they thought that that name was too Latin. 00:16:03.420 --> 00:16:06.840 And so therefore, you know, he went with the Martin Sheen. 00:16:07.820 --> 00:16:09.180 But everybody, you know. 00:16:09.640 --> 00:16:16.260 Anyway, the point is, yes, like the, there are a variety of places on the internet 00:16:16.260 --> 00:16:20.180 where you can make up names and be, you know, whoever. 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:24.620 I mean, and we know like, there are all kinds of ones that aren't real too, right? 00:16:24.680 --> 00:16:27.280 They're all the bots and all the people who are running like, 00:16:27.700 --> 00:16:30.500 you know, 50 different like random accounts. 00:16:30.800 --> 00:16:34.700 It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they have burner accounts and they use fake 00:16:34.700 --> 00:16:40.080 accounts. And now, in a lot of these apps where you go instantly and you can 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:43.160 see their profile, where are they based out of? Nigeria. Yes! 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:48.300 Susan Thomas, based out of Nigeria. Yeah, right! You know... 00:16:49.400 --> 00:16:50.960 I, I, I, it's just. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.020 It's just, well, I think, 00:16:54.020 --> 00:16:58.600 I think this all ties into something we've talked about multiple times before, 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:06.820 which is the key thing about Donald Trump starting way back in 2015 is he has 00:17:06.820 --> 00:17:13.840 given the permission structure for people to act up in all kinds of different ways. 00:17:13.840 --> 00:17:18.860 To open racism, open sexism, open fraud. 00:17:19.180 --> 00:17:27.620 Lying is fine. Because basically it's showing from the top down that these behaviors 00:17:27.620 --> 00:17:31.180 have not had any negative consequence for them. 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.040 Not just that, they have enabled success, Sam. 00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:35.280 Yes, yes they have. 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:37.140 They have enabled success. 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:41.720 Yes. And so why wouldn't everybody emulate that? 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:49.260 Why be honest why be empathetic why help people losers. 00:17:49.260 --> 00:17:54.100 Are losers and suckers just like soldiers who went off to war. 00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:57.220 Yeah I it's just 00:17:57.220 --> 00:18:00.160 it's just as I encountered this 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.140 more and more in like regular daily life 00:18:04.140 --> 00:18:09.020 it's just really very I and 00:18:09.020 --> 00:18:12.720 it really it really i have 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:16.360 to admit that this really gets to me the societal breakdown 00:18:16.360 --> 00:18:19.780 in general that we have with this 00:18:19.780 --> 00:18:24.040 shit but also i 00:18:24.040 --> 00:18:27.620 i should say that the people of minnesota 00:18:27.620 --> 00:18:30.480 have also shown us the flip side 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:41.620 of this where they have stood so hard their ground in mass that it also gives 00:18:41.620 --> 00:18:46.060 me hope in one sense because so many of them just wouldn't take the fucking 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:48.520 bullshit or take the bait. 00:18:49.580 --> 00:18:49.700 Right. 00:18:50.930 --> 00:18:53.810 So, but this is, 00:18:53.950 --> 00:18:58.590 I do think that the biggest thing that I see, like right now, 00:18:58.670 --> 00:19:06.190 that I'm encountering on a regular basis, and it's in so many things, 00:19:06.370 --> 00:19:08.170 it's just that breakdown. 00:19:08.730 --> 00:19:16.110 And it does bother me. And look, I can say it translates into many levels. 00:19:16.370 --> 00:19:18.470 I'm talking about people on the road. 00:19:18.950 --> 00:19:29.410 Okay. on i i it's just people at stores people not it used to be people like 00:19:29.410 --> 00:19:30.430 would bump into each other, 00:19:31.150 --> 00:19:36.750 apologizing whatever now it's like almost like fuck you whatever it feels like 00:19:36.750 --> 00:19:45.790 it it's just these kinds of like little regular interactions where people now 00:19:45.790 --> 00:19:50.110 feel it's okay to just be an asshole. 00:19:51.090 --> 00:19:57.110 And I notice it on a daily basis. I've said that one of the things that always... 00:19:57.110 --> 00:20:01.370 Give some concrete examples without outing anybody or like, you know, 00:20:02.070 --> 00:20:05.510 specifying anybody who could be identified. What are some examples? 00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:12.470 Because I'll tell you, I have not noticed this as much in real life, but also... 00:20:14.190 --> 00:20:18.070 Tend to hide myself away and avoid interacting with other human beings as much 00:20:18.070 --> 00:20:19.330 as possible. So, you know. 00:20:20.430 --> 00:20:31.670 Well, look, airplanes. Okay? Look, just the lack of general courtesy or politeness 00:20:31.670 --> 00:20:34.270 to your neighboring passengers. Okay? 00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:41.090 The rise of so many air rage incidents like right now and how much they happen. 00:20:41.110 --> 00:20:47.110 I see people offboarding an aircraft and people climbing on top of other people 00:20:47.110 --> 00:20:50.970 to get ahead of them instead of letting the people in front of you go out, 00:20:51.190 --> 00:20:54.870 for example, on a regular basis on almost every flight. 00:20:55.290 --> 00:20:59.490 I mean, it's one of those things where it used to be people will be patient 00:20:59.490 --> 00:21:02.950 and calm and let's wait until, you know, this person over here and whatever. 00:21:03.310 --> 00:21:09.050 And now it's like, it's like people like almost like stepping over the people 00:21:09.050 --> 00:21:10.930 in front of them in order to get out of the damn plane. 00:21:12.970 --> 00:21:18.070 It's just it's just they are what i'm trying to point out is that they are micro, 00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:23.030 these are not big aggressions these 00:21:23.030 --> 00:21:28.110 are microaggressions they're very little but it's just an ever increase in where 00:21:28.110 --> 00:21:34.070 what you would get before was politeness now you see people just you know not 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:39.930 giving a damn about the name about about the neighbors and like they don't expect 00:21:39.930 --> 00:21:41.330 any backlash from it either. 00:21:42.310 --> 00:21:45.810 At the supermarket lines, the other day, I don't know, some people, they were too, 00:21:46.730 --> 00:21:50.190 They were doing some shit the other day at Costco, you know, 00:21:50.350 --> 00:21:52.190 hopping around people doing stuff or whatever. And I'm like, 00:21:52.430 --> 00:21:54.290 oh, my love of God, what are you doing? 00:21:54.970 --> 00:22:00.170 You know, just be patient. Or I'll tell you the one that keeps happening. 00:22:00.370 --> 00:22:05.350 When I go to pick up medicines at the pharmacy, especially because of how so 00:22:05.350 --> 00:22:08.530 many people, especially in MAGA, have been aggressive with like health care workers. 00:22:09.330 --> 00:22:12.330 Oh my god the number of people in front of me like grousing about 00:22:12.330 --> 00:22:15.150 about the employees and yelling at 00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:19.630 the employees at the pharmacy counter and i'm 00:22:19.630 --> 00:22:25.010 just like oh i didn't say anything last time but i know my wife got so pissed 00:22:25.010 --> 00:22:29.870 off told somebody to shut up because he's yelling at the employees for no reason 00:22:29.870 --> 00:22:35.490 i mean they were busy or a lot of people and unfortunately it's taking time and well. 00:22:35.490 --> 00:22:41.030 One one thing i've noticed around here in terms of that specifically is people 00:22:41.030 --> 00:22:47.510 being more on edge about it because also they're you know we had we had one 00:22:47.510 --> 00:22:49.990 of the pharmacy chains around here closed completely. 00:22:49.990 --> 00:22:50.990 Bartels got. 00:22:50.990 --> 00:22:56.790 Like bought and then it was closed down and and then we had like and it converted 00:22:56.790 --> 00:23:04.410 to a cvs or something but everyone's short-staffed and so like there's everything, 00:23:04.890 --> 00:23:05.990 like, you have to wait. 00:23:06.390 --> 00:23:07.330 You have to wait. 00:23:07.330 --> 00:23:11.490 Like, all the time. Even for the most routine things. Like, and so, 00:23:11.710 --> 00:23:15.810 there's always a line, there's always people waiting, and so, 00:23:16.070 --> 00:23:18.690 you know, people's nerves get, you know. 00:23:19.790 --> 00:23:28.150 Antsy. But Sam, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, when we had lines like that at shit, this didn't happen. 00:23:28.430 --> 00:23:33.510 People didn't start regularly yelling at employees like that just because they were waiting. 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.600 This wasn't a common occurrence. And I know it wasn't a common occurrence because 00:23:38.600 --> 00:23:41.840 I came from a culture where that actually happened on a regular basis. 00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:45.220 And one of the things that I was pleased about moving to the continental United 00:23:45.220 --> 00:23:47.200 States was that that didn't regularly happen. 00:23:47.780 --> 00:23:50.500 And now we've devolved into where that's gone. 00:23:51.460 --> 00:23:55.860 Interesting. I wonder how much of this, you know, is also like regional. 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.620 But I wouldn't be surprised if a lot is nationwide. I mean, just in general, 00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.740 the country is on edge right now. 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:10.940 Yeah, and has been increasingly so for the last decade, you know, 00:24:11.280 --> 00:24:13.140 it does. And so I wouldn't be surprised. 00:24:13.460 --> 00:24:18.560 And I've always said culturally leadership matters and people say, whatever. 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:23.400 But the reality is that people take the example from the top down. 00:24:23.700 --> 00:24:32.040 And when your leader is acting the way he is, then this permeates every facet of society. 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:39.300 Well, and like I started saying with Trump, it gives permission. 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:41.580 Yes. So the people who... 00:24:42.970 --> 00:24:48.610 You know, otherwise might be restrained. If everyone was sort of like, 00:24:48.710 --> 00:24:53.730 no, that's just not how you act in public. Yeah. But keep that to yourself, sir. 00:24:54.070 --> 00:24:59.510 You know, things like that. The people who would otherwise be constrained by 00:24:59.510 --> 00:25:02.150 that are no longer feeling those constraints. 00:25:02.530 --> 00:25:02.950 Nope. 00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:07.610 And so they feel like, you know, like I said, it's fine to be racist. 00:25:07.610 --> 00:25:11.850 It's fine to be sexist it's fine to be a jackass in public it's fine to lie 00:25:11.850 --> 00:25:16.570 in public because why the fuck not donald trump does and like you said not only 00:25:16.570 --> 00:25:20.150 does it not hurt him it is the secret of his success it. 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:23.690 Is the secret of his success exactly yes fuck. 00:25:23.690 --> 00:25:30.130 You know and so fucking ridiculous horse shit and And look, 00:25:30.290 --> 00:25:38.790 there are people out there who are decent people not because they feel constrained, 00:25:38.790 --> 00:25:41.830 not because they feel they would be punished if they weren't, 00:25:41.930 --> 00:25:46.390 but because they actually like internally feel that's the right thing to do. 00:25:46.550 --> 00:25:51.550 But like what I've been learning over the last few years is there are a lot 00:25:51.550 --> 00:25:57.170 of people who the only possible reason to be good that they can imagine is that 00:25:57.170 --> 00:25:58.870 they might be punished if they're not. 00:25:59.570 --> 00:26:04.910 And so if you take away that threat of punishment, then there's no reason to behave well anymore. 00:26:05.090 --> 00:26:09.710 There's no reason to treat other people nicely. There's no reason to like just 00:26:09.710 --> 00:26:14.930 generally be a good member of society, you know, because if no one's going to 00:26:14.930 --> 00:26:16.770 beat you down for not doing that, 00:26:16.930 --> 00:26:22.230 then why the hell would you do any of that? And, you know. 00:26:23.650 --> 00:26:25.890 I don't know. I don't know. It's discouraging. 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:30.470 I've noticed that people have no convictions. A lot of people. 00:26:30.610 --> 00:26:33.910 Or morals. Of any sense. And like you said. 00:26:34.510 --> 00:26:39.150 That they're very malleable. And, you know, they will show themselves in one 00:26:39.150 --> 00:26:43.030 way just because it's convenient. But the reality is that deep down they're very dark people. 00:26:43.870 --> 00:26:47.590 And that's one thing I said about money. That for a lot of people I said, 00:26:47.670 --> 00:26:48.930 no, money changes people. Nope. 00:26:50.010 --> 00:26:53.550 Most of those people were complete assholes the entire time. 00:26:53.650 --> 00:26:57.310 But they felt that they had to behave that certain way because it would jeopardize their. 00:26:59.560 --> 00:27:02.360 Their their income their jobs or 00:27:02.360 --> 00:27:05.280 whatever but it's like elon musk 00:27:05.280 --> 00:27:11.000 has shown now that he could be a nazi racist and it doesn't jeopardize his wealth 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:19.400 you know um whereas before these people would be ostracized instead his stock 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:25.260 keeps going up you know i i don't know look i'm somebody of, 00:27:25.800 --> 00:27:34.040 that has a series of convictions in one way or another and certain things about 00:27:34.040 --> 00:27:37.200 myself that I am, that is who I am. 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:43.180 It doesn't really make a difference, like what is happening to me in terms of life. 00:27:43.560 --> 00:27:47.140 One thing that I'm consistent is that if you look at a picture of me like from 00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:51.760 30, 40 years ago, I pretty much dressed the same as I did 30, 40 years ago. 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.240 There's very little difference, you know? So I could say the same as Sam. 00:27:56.860 --> 00:27:59.120 There have been some changes over the years. 00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:02.880 Yeah, no, there are some changes, but there is a consistent. 00:28:03.460 --> 00:28:09.320 And the other day I saw your former boss. Basically, I saw there was a picture of him in the 90s. 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.500 And now he's dressing like a Bond supervillain. 00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:15.740 Oh, that former boss. Okay, yes, yes. 00:28:16.280 --> 00:28:21.920 And I'm like, what the fuck? What is this shit? 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:28.240 And I'm like who does this transformation I don't, 00:28:29.320 --> 00:28:32.920 it's really weird it's so weird 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:39.760 I don't but it shows that so many of these people have no actual like, 00:28:42.340 --> 00:28:48.600 compass in their life of what the heck is supposed to be what they do what they 00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:52.740 are why they do it it's so malleable it's so weird. 00:28:52.740 --> 00:29:01.740 Yeah and you know i i i always you know i i remember thinking about like you 00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:06.180 know because every once in a while you hear like these you know religious folks 00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:07.980 especially right-wing religious folks, 00:29:08.800 --> 00:29:17.700 who are like, you know, well, if you don't believe in God, why wouldn't you 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:19.640 kill everybody who you wanted to? 00:29:22.580 --> 00:29:25.180 You know, if you don't think you're going to go to hell. 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:28.700 They do everything out of fear. 00:29:29.020 --> 00:29:35.820 I heard one reply to that, which I think was the perfect response, which was, I do. 00:29:36.180 --> 00:29:40.060 I already kill everybody I want to, which is nobody. 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:40.480 Nobody! 00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:45.660 I don't want to kill anybody. What are you even talking about? You know? 00:29:48.330 --> 00:29:53.350 You know, the idea of having, you know, 00:29:53.910 --> 00:30:00.110 morals that are internal, that are because you believe certain things are right 00:30:00.110 --> 00:30:07.370 and wrong, and therefore you will do your best to do right and to avoid doing wrong. 00:30:07.530 --> 00:30:10.450 You may fail sometimes, but you will try. You will do your best. 00:30:11.070 --> 00:30:13.410 Absolutely. To so many people. I will fail. To so many people. 00:30:13.910 --> 00:30:14.870 I will fail. 00:30:14.870 --> 00:30:18.670 But to so many people, that's alien. It's like, you know, no, 00:30:18.870 --> 00:30:22.570 morals come from outside. It comes from somebody telling you what you're supposed 00:30:22.570 --> 00:30:24.650 to do or what you're not supposed to do. 00:30:24.850 --> 00:30:29.950 And the reason you do it is because of their authority over you and the fact 00:30:29.950 --> 00:30:32.230 that something bad will happen to you if you don't. 00:30:32.370 --> 00:30:35.290 And that's what morality is. 00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:41.230 Morality is constraining yourself to avoid harm from the external authority, 00:30:41.410 --> 00:30:44.410 whether it be human authority or God or something. 00:30:44.410 --> 00:30:51.010 And, you know, and the idea of just internally, like, yeah, no, I do this. 00:30:51.250 --> 00:30:57.290 I do things that are right because they're right to do, not because something 00:30:57.290 --> 00:30:59.110 bad will happen to me if I don't. 00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:03.880 You know, the other day I, I, I, so I was on this business trip two weeks ago, 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.780 not even not two weeks ago. 00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:08.280 It was like last fuck it was last week. 00:31:08.460 --> 00:31:11.420 It feels like it was eternity, but it was like the week before. 00:31:12.380 --> 00:31:16.220 So somebody that works, one of our pre-sales engineers, he came, 00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:19.780 he came with me to Puerto Rico. He's, and he was, he's not from Puerto Rico. 00:31:20.040 --> 00:31:22.980 Uh, and I, I am, he's very young. 00:31:23.280 --> 00:31:25.440 Okay. He's 28. Okay. 00:31:25.980 --> 00:31:28.060 So even, I mean, yeah, exactly. 00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:32.360 Yeah. I mean, this kid's been working like six, seven years. 00:31:32.600 --> 00:31:32.840 A kid. 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.400 Corporate. He's a kid. Dude, he's 28, for God's sakes. 00:31:36.620 --> 00:31:42.200 So, he started working at HP first as a pre-sales engineer there, 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:44.540 and then he's been working over here with us for a few years. 00:31:45.780 --> 00:31:51.220 You know, and I met him, and I started working with him. 00:31:51.620 --> 00:31:55.340 And I spent a lot of time, just because I knew he was young, 00:31:55.520 --> 00:31:58.440 and I'm like, hey, let me coach you about how, 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.120 how to do these things let me help you now you 00:32:02.120 --> 00:32:04.800 know sometimes he wasn't look this is the this is a better 00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:07.680 way to do it you know and i've been like doing some 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.840 coaching and mentoring and sometimes about life situations he's felt the uh 00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:16.260 you know questions and i i guided him you know some through some personal situations 00:32:16.260 --> 00:32:19.520 and other stuff and he asked me some questions i said look this i'll give you 00:32:19.520 --> 00:32:25.860 some advice you know like if you you know and so here's one thing that he told Spent six, 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.320 seven years in corporate America Well, 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:34.400 corporate, global Not America And he said that That nobody, 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:40.400 That he has interacted with And I'm not even his boss Better or whatever Has 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.660 taken the time to Care about him personally like I have, 00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:50.360 And that I didn't realize that he lost his father when he was five years old. 00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:56.520 And he said that right now he feels like, do you realize that you're the closest that I've had? 00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.380 I'm working for a few years. Are you the closest I feel like I've had to a dad? 00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:01.780 Aww. 00:33:04.100 --> 00:33:08.280 But here's the one thing that kind of like, well, I felt very touched by that. 00:33:08.380 --> 00:33:11.740 But the one thing on the flip side, what I thought is, fuck, 00:33:11.820 --> 00:33:18.120 this kid's very good. Nobody, nobody take the time to care for this kid. Nobody. Anybody. 00:33:18.860 --> 00:33:22.140 I mean, apparently his stepdad also was a douche. 00:33:24.860 --> 00:33:28.400 But it's the one thing I'm like, geez, just nobody cares about people anymore. 00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:32.300 Well, that's all very exciting. 00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:39.100 I'm saying nobody. I'm exaggerating. But that very few people seem to care about others anymore. 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:41.680 Or won't take the time. 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:44.980 Should I do a couple movies? 00:33:45.320 --> 00:33:47.100 Yeah, let's do the movies. Come on. 00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:56.660 Okay. First up, continuing on the AFI list, the 1998 version of the AFI list. 00:33:57.820 --> 00:34:04.120 And by the way, I continue to give an update on we have now actually started 00:34:04.120 --> 00:34:07.800 the 2007 version of the list. 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:17.540 And we started at 100 and are already back to number 89. 00:34:18.040 --> 00:34:23.300 So we've gone 100 and back to 89 in the 2007 version of the list. 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.140 But in the 1998 version of the list, we actually just started, 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.580 that movie last night. We're 10 minutes in. We're going to continue to do it. 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:38.300 Anyway, but today, today I'm going to talk about the number eight list from 00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:44.460 1980, 1998, which was On the Waterfront from 1954. 00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:46.800 Ever seen this movie, Yvonne? 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:47.760 No. 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:58.400 This is Marlon Brando, and I'll rather, rather, start the plot as I usually 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.320 do. First two paragraphs from Wikipedia, the plot. 00:35:01.500 --> 00:35:07.340 New York prizefighter Terry Malloy's career was cut short when he purposely 00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:11.020 lost a fight at the request of mob boss Johnny Friendly. 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.880 Terry now works for Friendly's labor union as a longshoreman, 00:35:15.020 --> 00:35:19.120 while his older, more educated brother Charlie is Friendly's right-hand man. 00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:25.180 Terry is coerced into luring fellow worker Joey Doyle onto a rooftop where he 00:35:25.180 --> 00:35:29.960 believes Friendly's henchmen want to talk Joey out of testifying to the Waterfront Crime Commission. 00:35:30.180 --> 00:35:35.700 When they instead murder Joey by throwing him off the roof, Terry confronts 00:35:35.700 --> 00:35:38.700 Friendly but is threatened and bribed into acquiescence. 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:44.040 Joey's sister Edie and priest Father Barry try to inspire the dock workers to 00:35:44.040 --> 00:35:47.440 stand up to Friendly. Terry attends the meeting as a snitch, 00:35:47.620 --> 00:35:51.020 but when it is violently broken up by Friendly's men, he helps E.D. 00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:56.000 Escape and misses Father Barry, convincing one worker to testify. 00:35:56.420 --> 00:36:02.180 After the testimony, the worker is killed in a staged workplace accident, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. 00:36:02.500 --> 00:36:05.460 And then things continue. So basically... 00:36:06.060 --> 00:36:13.080 You know, it's a mob movie, and it's about one guy who, you know, 00:36:13.180 --> 00:36:19.240 ends up going against, you know, the mob authorities and what happens to him. 00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:24.420 And, you know, it's number eight on the top movies list. I'll give it a thumbs up. It was fine. 00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.240 It was fine. It was fine. 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.840 You sound so thrilled. It was fun. 00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:37.380 You know, hey, how was the meal? Well, it was fine. It was edible. 00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:41.660 Let's see. Somebody mentioned to us. It won all kinds of things. 00:36:41.780 --> 00:36:47.420 It won Oscars for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actress, 00:36:47.620 --> 00:36:51.860 Best Story, Best Art Direction, Best Cinematography, Best Editing. 00:36:52.560 --> 00:36:56.640 It won, you know, other awards from other folks, Golden Globes, 00:36:56.820 --> 00:37:00.640 Directors Guild, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It won lots of awards. 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.780 And look, it was a good, well-crafted movie. 00:37:04.520 --> 00:37:09.360 You know, it was very much sort of the 1950s style movie, but, 00:37:09.560 --> 00:37:12.980 you know, it was enjoyable. I will give it a thumbs up. 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:19.900 I will, you know, if I was doing my own ranking, would it be top 10? 00:37:20.160 --> 00:37:24.240 No, but it was a good movie. It was a good movie. It was worth the watch. 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.880 And I watched this back in, what, February? Almost a year ago? 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:36.900 No, March. March. We're in March now. So, you know, still almost a year ago, but not quite as close. 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.380 And, you know, like, do I remember tons and tons of it? No. 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.220 Did I need to remind myself with a Wikipedia page? Yes. 00:37:45.700 --> 00:37:50.860 But, you know, it was good. It was fine. I keep saying fine. 00:37:50.940 --> 00:37:57.460 It was fine. The ringing endorsement. It was Siskel and Ebert ringing endorsement. 00:37:57.560 --> 00:37:59.120 How was the movie? It was fine. 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:08.840 So let me do a second fine movie. This was not on the AFI Top 100 list, which was from 1999. 00:38:10.390 --> 00:38:12.810 Star Wars episode one, the Phantom Menace. 00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:13.870 Uh-huh. 00:38:14.770 --> 00:38:21.030 So, of all the Star Wars movies, this is the weakest, I think, 00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:28.350 you know, even in, even including like things like Solo and things like that. 00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:34.350 I, I will, I will actually move towards giving this a thumb sideways. 00:38:35.730 --> 00:38:36.190 Really? 00:38:36.910 --> 00:38:43.030 Yeah. Like I, you know, This was last March. 00:38:43.170 --> 00:38:45.730 Watched it again. Don't. 00:38:48.650 --> 00:38:53.770 Look, you can't watch Star Wars without watching episode one. 00:38:54.350 --> 00:38:58.850 But at the same time, I mean, I guess you could. Some people do skip it. But. 00:38:59.910 --> 00:39:05.970 So, but I think of all of them, it is the one that is clearly the weakest. 00:39:06.710 --> 00:39:12.610 It's got the least rewatchability. I know last year you mentioned you'd watched it with Manu. 00:39:13.430 --> 00:39:22.630 You know, what's his name? The stupid Jar Jar Binks is really annoying and stays annoying. 00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:27.590 Like, he hasn't grown on me over the years or anything. 00:39:28.490 --> 00:39:33.990 And I feel bad for the actor who like got so much shit for Jar Jar Binks that 00:39:33.990 --> 00:39:35.830 he was like suicidal for a while. 00:39:36.370 --> 00:39:43.110 He's doing better now. But, you know, it's just like I remember watching it 00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:46.630 when it first came out and coming out actively disappointed. 00:39:46.630 --> 00:39:52.930 Now, we have talked on this show before about how one of the things with the 00:39:52.930 --> 00:39:54.970 prequels specifically for people 00:39:54.970 --> 00:40:00.670 of our generation is George Lucas specifically did not make them for us. 00:40:01.210 --> 00:40:08.210 He was not making movies for the people who watched Star Wars, 00:40:08.390 --> 00:40:09.790 The Empire Strikes Back, and Return 00:40:09.790 --> 00:40:14.890 of the Jedi when they were new and had grown up and were now adults. 00:40:14.890 --> 00:40:20.650 He was making them for the kids of that era. 00:40:21.550 --> 00:40:27.810 And one of the things I have seen is over the years, 00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:32.510 like the, the, the, the prequels in general, but I think even more so for two 00:40:32.510 --> 00:40:37.870 and three, but even for one, the, the actors and such in them who got, 00:40:38.070 --> 00:40:41.890 got a lot of crap at the time from people of our generation. 00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:52.030 Have now felt they feel much better because now people who were kids in 1999, 00:40:52.750 --> 00:40:55.850 and the early 2000s when the first one came out, 00:40:56.590 --> 00:41:00.790 come up to them and tell them how important the movies were to them and how 00:41:00.790 --> 00:41:06.550 much they liked them and how they were great and how they made their childhood, etc., etc. 00:41:06.950 --> 00:41:11.110 Because again, these movies when they came out in, you know, 00:41:11.230 --> 00:41:17.250 1999 for the first one and early 2000s for the later ones were intended for 00:41:17.250 --> 00:41:19.330 people who were, you know, 00:41:19.590 --> 00:41:23.750 age 8 to 13 or something like that. 00:41:23.870 --> 00:41:30.050 That was who George Lucas was really aiming at the whole damn time with the 00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:33.050 original Star Wars and with the prequels. 00:41:33.630 --> 00:41:37.550 Newer Star Wars since then has morphed in a variety of different ways. 00:41:37.550 --> 00:41:47.950 And so it, it, it wasn't aimed directly at nostalgia bait for Gen Xers or whatever. 00:41:48.250 --> 00:41:51.170 And, and, but, but still. 00:41:52.210 --> 00:41:56.110 I think one was still kind of weak. 00:41:56.550 --> 00:41:59.730 It was, you know, there were whole portions of it that you were like, 00:41:59.870 --> 00:42:04.370 the whole pod race, for instance, was like, okay, this is about selling toys. 00:42:04.550 --> 00:42:06.430 This is about selling video games. 00:42:06.650 --> 00:42:12.350 I like the pod race. I don't know. You guys are really seriously hard on this stupid movie. 00:42:13.550 --> 00:42:14.930 I like this damn movie. 00:42:14.930 --> 00:42:17.950 Although even you admit it, it's a stupid movie. But yes. 00:42:17.950 --> 00:42:23.370 But they're all stupid movies in a certain sense. Come on, man. 00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:28.150 It's a fucking, you know, it's an entire story is, you know, it's ridiculous. 00:42:28.430 --> 00:42:32.190 But, you know, it's entertaining. I liked it. 00:42:32.790 --> 00:42:36.950 I don't know. I think it gets too much shit. Like you said, I think, 00:42:37.070 --> 00:42:40.410 and I think that you hit the nail on the head why you get so much shit. 00:42:41.710 --> 00:42:46.610 It's because of how George Lucas designed it. And I think that so many, 00:42:46.790 --> 00:42:54.850 it's really polarizing because of that, because the, the, the old fans expected it to be made to them. 00:42:55.050 --> 00:43:01.750 And it really, he was like, no, I'm making it for people right now because it's 00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:04.370 been 30, 40 fucking years. 00:43:05.090 --> 00:43:06.590 And I'm targeting, you know. 00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:12.890 At the time, I believe it had been 16 years since Return of the Jedi. 00:43:13.350 --> 00:43:15.510 So not 30 or 40 years. Wait, wait, wait. 00:43:16.030 --> 00:43:17.290 Yes, I'm... Hang on, I'm looking up the list. 00:43:17.290 --> 00:43:22.050 Phantom Menace was released in theaters May 19th, 1999, almost 16 years after 00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:25.370 Return of the Jedi, which I believe was 84. 00:43:25.630 --> 00:43:30.510 Phantom Menace was out in 99? Fuck, man. It's that old? 00:43:30.950 --> 00:43:34.790 It's 27 years old? The fucking hell? 00:43:35.870 --> 00:43:36.510 Yes. 00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:43.930 It's 27 years old? 00:43:44.750 --> 00:43:45.350 Yes, it is. 00:43:46.460 --> 00:43:48.500 Jesus fucking Christ. 00:43:48.520 --> 00:43:52.180 The other thing I'll say about Phantom Menace is it was also very obvious, 00:43:52.180 --> 00:43:56.140 like, that George Lucas was playing with his new CGI toys. 00:43:56.580 --> 00:43:57.460 Well, yeah. 00:43:58.260 --> 00:43:59.080 Yeah, so. 00:43:59.680 --> 00:44:02.920 But, you know, here's the one thing, though. For all the criticism, 00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:06.020 it really didn't impact box office at all. 00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:10.260 Because it did do over a billion at the box office. 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:16.940 Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I went. I went on opening day, I think. 00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:17.820 Okay. 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.960 You know, I lined up for the damn thing with the whole family. 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.280 And we went, and it was a big event. Maybe not opening day. Maybe. 00:44:24.620 --> 00:44:29.740 We usually, for things like that, like, wait just a little bit. 00:44:29.740 --> 00:44:34.100 Wait, what whole family? What are you talking about? You weren't. I wasn't married. 00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:37.180 You weren't married. I went with Brandy and Amy. I went with Brandy and Amy. 00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:40.720 Dude, dude, dude. 99? 99? 00:44:41.060 --> 00:44:42.960 Oh, wait. the fuck are you talking about. 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.120 You didn't know. 00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:48.620 Them okay maybe it was one of the other prequels maybe it was episode three 00:44:48.620 --> 00:44:51.520 that i'm remembering i remember the one we went to in florida it's. 00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:53.320 Not it's not that. 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.360 You're right nine you're right 99 was before i 00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.280 met them like i met so i met them in 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:03.580 2003 2004 so 00:45:03.580 --> 00:45:06.380 around there yeah yeah you didn't even 00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:09.060 know them so who who where did i 00:45:09.060 --> 00:45:12.960 see episode I don't I remember seeing episode you were in New Jersey not with 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:17.040 them you I know I was in New Jersey you're right I was in New Jersey but I don't 00:45:17.040 --> 00:45:21.540 remember who I saw it with okay now my memories are all scrambled because because 00:45:21.540 --> 00:45:25.140 I specifically remember waiting in line with Brandy and Amy but it must have 00:45:25.140 --> 00:45:27.580 been episode three it had to be episode three. 00:45:27.580 --> 00:45:29.660 It had to be episode three no fucking. 00:45:29.660 --> 00:45:30.200 Way it. 00:45:30.200 --> 00:45:31.780 Couldn't have been this one you didn't know them. 00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:36.460 You're right. You're right. 00:45:37.720 --> 00:45:40.880 Jesus Christ, Sam, your memory is... 00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:41.960 Let's see. 00:45:42.100 --> 00:45:45.500 Revenge of the Sith was 2005. I do realize now, like I said, 00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:49.520 listen, that if I ever get accused of a crime, the two alibi witnesses I need 00:45:49.520 --> 00:45:54.200 is you and my wife because you guys would be so all over the place, 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.560 the investigators would be like, the fuck? 00:45:58.640 --> 00:46:05.120 But their stories... Wait, this guy says he was on a business trip in Spain. 00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:07.420 The other guy says he was with him in a movie. 00:46:07.600 --> 00:46:10.640 And we've got a cell phone record to show him is he in Atlanta. 00:46:11.040 --> 00:46:14.720 What the fuck is all these? What are they talking about? Yes, 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.420 now I know who the alibi witnesses I'm bringing. 00:46:20.100 --> 00:46:24.200 Anyway, I'm giving thumbs sideways. You give thumbs up to episode one. 00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:28.220 I give a thumbs up. I think it's a good movie. I think it's too much crap. 00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:32.920 Okay. Okay. With all that, let's take a break. 00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.500 And then I was going to say we'll switch to serious newsy stuff, 00:46:37.600 --> 00:46:40.140 but we kind of did some serious newsy stuff already. 00:46:40.820 --> 00:46:46.220 But, you know, and I will say for two weeks now, or three weeks now, 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.580 the next break is supposed to be an Apple Dream, but I still haven't prepped 00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:52.800 it yet. So you get like a regular old break. 00:46:53.160 --> 00:46:57.380 And, you know, maybe next week I'll get to it in time. Like, 00:46:57.500 --> 00:47:03.000 cause I, cause I have to go grab the right thing and make an audio and put it in and blah, blah, blah. 00:47:04.200 --> 00:47:06.740 Anyway, here's a break. 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But I really do! 00:48:50.190 --> 00:48:53.810 Oh, hey, here's a very interesting thing, Sam. 00:48:54.810 --> 00:48:56.170 Okay, we're back. 00:48:56.550 --> 00:48:59.930 Yeah, I just went to the door to get... 00:49:00.670 --> 00:49:05.790 A package. And the reason I was, like, trying to figure out what the hell this 00:49:05.790 --> 00:49:15.010 is is because I got a call from our headquarters office. 00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:16.270 Okay. 00:49:16.770 --> 00:49:20.150 No, I think it was a caller. It was an email. 00:49:20.530 --> 00:49:27.450 I had notified from our official address in California saying, hey, you got a package. 00:49:27.990 --> 00:49:30.770 Like, I got a package. I'm a home office. 00:49:31.690 --> 00:49:33.870 Would you like us to forward you the package? 00:49:34.370 --> 00:49:34.950 Okay. 00:49:35.630 --> 00:49:42.050 And I'm like, sure. Send it to my house. Okay. So I just got the package. 00:49:42.790 --> 00:49:47.170 It's a book. But I don't know who's... Why? 00:49:48.390 --> 00:49:52.790 It... This is the book. I'm showing you this here. 00:49:53.350 --> 00:49:55.510 Okay. Agent-powered growth. 00:49:56.570 --> 00:50:01.690 Deploy AI agents that build your marketing pipeline 24-7. 00:50:02.770 --> 00:50:08.110 But I... Well, but it doesn't say who sent me the book. 00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:14.270 It says here sold to a gift for you. Apple Valley, Minnesota. 00:50:15.050 --> 00:50:15.670 Okay. 00:50:16.030 --> 00:50:24.750 Please enjoy a copy of Stu Joe Werman's new book and visiting Visit readingminds.ai 00:50:24.750 --> 00:50:27.550 to put AI-powered agents to work for you. 00:50:28.190 --> 00:50:29.910 Did somebody go and like just... 00:50:29.910 --> 00:50:31.190 I'm sure you'll get right on reading that. Yeah. 00:50:36.060 --> 00:50:43.500 To be fair, I am selling this kind of stuff, okay, to customers. 00:50:43.780 --> 00:50:47.380 The one thing that I've had an interest, 00:50:47.460 --> 00:50:52.740 and it's something that actually we've done successfully with certain customers, 00:50:52.740 --> 00:51:02.400 is actually doing these kind of AI agents for customer service calls and stuff and whatnot. 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:08.720 But I'm just curious as to, did somebody decide that I'm going to get like, 00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:13.900 just for some reason, I'm trying to figure out who the hell would send us all 00:51:13.900 --> 00:51:15.300 these free copies of this book. 00:51:16.420 --> 00:51:20.360 Someone who wants to spike the sales of their book? I guess. 00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:22.340 By buying and selling free copies. 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:29.360 Weird. Okay. All right. I was just very curious as to what the hell the package 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.220 that came into corporate was, that it's just a book. 00:51:33.330 --> 00:51:36.690 Okay. Just a book. Okay. 00:51:36.870 --> 00:51:42.270 So now, I figure maybe we can squeeze in. We're already an hour into the show almost. 00:51:43.630 --> 00:51:46.850 And I will tell you that here's one thing, because I mentioned to Sam, 00:51:46.990 --> 00:51:50.110 I couldn't find my AirPods. I'm using some other headphones. 00:51:50.270 --> 00:51:51.530 Your batteries are going to die at any moment. 00:51:51.890 --> 00:51:55.730 Well, okay. No, we're not doing too bad. It says that we're at 70%. 00:51:56.410 --> 00:52:01.310 So we're not doing terrible. Okay. All right. We're, you know. So. 00:52:01.510 --> 00:52:09.170 Okay. Yeah. So just to lay out some of the things that have happened in the last couple of weeks. 00:52:09.370 --> 00:52:12.930 So first of all, last week I did a 15-minute show. I only talked about my health 00:52:12.930 --> 00:52:16.590 issues. So yeah, whatever. No real topics. 00:52:16.890 --> 00:52:18.670 Sorry about that, everybody who doesn't care. 00:52:19.550 --> 00:52:24.190 But we have from last week that we never got around to talk to. 00:52:24.190 --> 00:52:33.650 We had Greenland, Smith, the Board of Peace, ICE claiming their memo on they 00:52:33.650 --> 00:52:36.670 don't need warrants to enter houses, protests. 00:52:37.110 --> 00:52:43.250 This week, we had apparently, sorta, kinda, sorta, 00:52:43.830 --> 00:52:48.710 a retreat in Minnesota from ICE and Border Patrol, although I've heard in the 00:52:48.710 --> 00:52:53.530 last 48 hours that that is less of a retreat than it looked. 00:52:53.530 --> 00:52:55.710 We've got Don Lemon being arrested. 00:52:55.930 --> 00:52:59.110 We've got more Epstein files being released. Oh, and by the way, 00:52:59.170 --> 00:53:02.870 last week, we also had some more accusations that weren't from the Epstein files 00:53:02.870 --> 00:53:03.850 against Trump and others. 00:53:04.090 --> 00:53:09.650 We had the raid on Georgia elections. We had a new Fed chair nominee. 00:53:10.030 --> 00:53:14.030 There was some talk on our conventions corner slack about some announcements out of Tesla. 00:53:14.350 --> 00:53:18.510 So we got a whole bunch of stuff, Yvonne. Where do you want to start? 00:53:23.550 --> 00:53:25.670 Thinking, thinking, thinking. Look, let's start with Minnesota, 00:53:25.690 --> 00:53:30.330 because we haven't talked about anything of what's happened in Minnesota. So, yes. 00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:35.450 Well, I heard, you know, like right now, since we are two weeks, 00:53:35.610 --> 00:53:42.370 you know, we're late right now after the last fucking murder and stuff. 00:53:42.550 --> 00:53:47.310 Yeah, that had happened right before I recorded last week, and I mentioned it in passing. 00:53:47.830 --> 00:54:00.630 I mean, you're saying that there seemed to have been a significant step back in operations. 00:54:01.670 --> 00:54:05.050 But now you're saying that that's 00:54:05.050 --> 00:54:09.810 not exactly the case because it seemed that it was, but I don't know. 00:54:09.830 --> 00:54:13.350 Yeah, well, they sent what's-his-name packing. What's-his-name? 00:54:13.870 --> 00:54:14.350 Bovino. 00:54:15.110 --> 00:54:18.830 Bovino. They sent Bovino packing. The pseudo-Nazi. Yeah, because, 00:54:18.990 --> 00:54:24.310 I mean, he was literally cosplaying as a goddamn Nazi, wearing like a jacket 00:54:24.310 --> 00:54:29.450 that looked like an SS jacket and all this kind of stuff. And he was one of... 00:54:29.900 --> 00:54:34.460 He was not the only one by any means, but he was one of the loud ones in the 00:54:34.460 --> 00:54:39.280 administration, basically saying, well, if these people had just behaved and 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.500 done as they were told, they wouldn't have been shot. 00:54:41.660 --> 00:54:46.500 And it's 100% their fault and they're agitators and whatever. 00:54:47.220 --> 00:54:52.180 They got rid of him. They brought in the other guy, you know, names. 00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:56.760 Me and names are bad. but 00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.860 and he sort of initially in 00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:02.800 the first couple days was like okay i'm gonna talk to walls 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.700 we're gonna work something out we're blah blah blah walls had a call with donald 00:55:06.700 --> 00:55:12.160 trump donald trump was saying some you know was also talking about sort of relaxing 00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:16.660 a bit and then just in the last 48 hours they've ramped up the rhetoric again 00:55:16.660 --> 00:55:20.100 donald trump has been talking about them as agitators again. 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:24.540 There have been, I just saw on social media, 00:55:24.860 --> 00:55:29.580 like since we've been recording video of another incident where, 00:55:29.580 --> 00:55:32.480 you know, the, the, the, the federal 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.380 agents were getting in front of an observer car and harassing them. 00:55:36.720 --> 00:55:41.540 So it's like, things calm down for a couple of days, but it looks like they're 00:55:41.540 --> 00:55:43.240 getting, getting antsy again. 00:55:43.700 --> 00:55:47.400 But also we keep hearing that, okay, they're going to move their emphasis. 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:51.620 And I've heard a variety of places. The most recent that I've heard is Ohio, 00:55:51.640 --> 00:55:54.520 that they're going to basically pull people out of Minnesota, 00:55:54.680 --> 00:55:55.900 put them in Ohio instead. 00:55:56.620 --> 00:56:00.160 Yeah, there were other cities mentioned in between. I heard Phoenix once. 00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:01.380 Yeah, I heard Arizona. 00:56:01.640 --> 00:56:06.340 Right. Yeah, I heard Arizona, heard Philadelphia, heard a couple other places. 00:56:06.980 --> 00:56:10.900 But the most recent is, oh, Ohio will be next. 00:56:11.680 --> 00:56:13.200 And so it's unclear. 00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:21.650 But what, you know, as you said, the folks in Minnesota are not backing down. 00:56:21.930 --> 00:56:22.310 No. 00:56:22.430 --> 00:56:28.350 They're in the streets. They're organized. I've heard people talking about how, well, first of all, 00:56:29.150 --> 00:56:34.890 you know, again, with the right wing having a hard time understanding what's 00:56:34.890 --> 00:56:39.090 going on, they keep talking about like, well, who's bankrolling this? 00:56:39.210 --> 00:56:41.750 This is organized at the highest levels, blah, blah, blah, blah, 00:56:41.830 --> 00:56:49.730 blah. because they can't even imagine the fact that people are self-organizing 00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:54.110 at the grassroots level because they're actually outraged by what's happening. 00:56:55.030 --> 00:57:02.710 And I think this is one of the things where Miller and all of these folks just 00:57:02.710 --> 00:57:08.550 don't understand. They expect that really everybody agrees with them. 00:57:08.830 --> 00:57:11.510 Really, everybody wants these foreigners out. 00:57:11.950 --> 00:57:18.790 And it's just these weird liberal provocateurs who say anything else, right? 00:57:19.250 --> 00:57:22.430 But no, like, apparently the 00:57:22.430 --> 00:57:27.350 reports on the ground are practically like every business and shopping, 00:57:27.870 --> 00:57:36.770 every like coffee shop or small business you go into, there are people sort 00:57:36.770 --> 00:57:39.970 of organizing and being like, okay, who's going to be the lookout? 00:57:40.170 --> 00:57:43.190 Who's going to do this? Who's going to do that? and people in 00:57:43.190 --> 00:57:46.830 neighborhoods self-organizing on how to like try to 00:57:46.830 --> 00:57:49.570 provide groceries to people who 00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:54.970 are afraid to leave their home right you know try to get kids to school where 00:57:54.970 --> 00:58:00.710 they can you know things like this and it really is just neighborhoods self-organizing 00:58:00.710 --> 00:58:06.910 to protect their neighbors and and and the, 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.760 The administration-type MAGA folks apparently just can't comprehend this. 00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:18.480 But this is continuing. You know, ice raids have not stopped. 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:23.420 They might have slowed down a little bit, but they certainly have not stopped. 00:58:23.420 --> 00:58:29.440 And the protective details and the ice watchers are still out in force. 00:58:30.580 --> 00:58:36.620 And so it's still a potentially explosive situation that could blow back up again at any moment. 00:58:36.620 --> 00:58:40.900 But here's one thing, right? Right. And I'm not having clarity on the impact 00:58:40.900 --> 00:58:44.100 right now because we are in a government shutdown right now. OK. 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.860 Yes. Officially, officially it started at midnight last night, 00:58:50.040 --> 00:58:55.720 Eastern Time, because the what the Senate passed something to extend for two 00:58:55.720 --> 00:58:57.380 weeks. Only two weeks, by the way. 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:03.000 But the House is like, oh, we'll get to it early next week. So we are officially 00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:10.340 in a partial shutdown because some portions of the government have been funded at this point. 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:18.280 Right. And the thing is that part of it is that the shutdown includes DHS, okay, at this point. 00:59:19.580 --> 00:59:25.560 Well, but here's the thing. The actual on-the-ground agents are considered essential blah. 00:59:25.660 --> 00:59:30.260 Blah, blah. I know. But it's impacting operations. But the one thing is that 00:59:30.260 --> 00:59:35.080 I guess the key thing here is that Senate Democrats are like, 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:42.240 And people have a line behind either there has to be significant changes based 00:59:42.240 --> 00:59:46.820 on on what DHS is doing or we're not funding or we're not continuing with the funding. 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.900 And that's, you know, now I know that we have had this issue before where we 00:59:50.900 --> 00:59:55.100 have just buckled over and not gotten much of anything. 00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.560 But I mean, this this is the only way to stop this. 01:00:00.680 --> 01:00:05.620 They need, you know, like but even Trump is saying that he is open to negotiating about this. 01:00:05.620 --> 01:00:14.560 One key element to watch in these negotiations is that the massive increase 01:00:14.560 --> 01:00:18.660 in ICE funding was done by the Big Beautiful Bill. 01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:26.520 It is, in effect, separately from what is being talked about for DHS now. 01:00:26.520 --> 01:00:35.840 And so you have to look at not just, there's a separate conversation about undoing 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.820 some of the increases from the big, beautiful bill. 01:00:38.820 --> 01:00:39.260 Exactly. 01:00:39.520 --> 01:00:45.920 That is separate from the, what, do we put restrictions on? Do we do this? 01:00:46.020 --> 01:00:54.060 Do we do that? And you've got to watch all of these announcements about what 01:00:54.060 --> 01:00:57.020 is up for negotiation and what is not. 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:03.420 I think the key is we have to pay very close attention as to... 01:01:04.640 --> 01:01:07.060 What really is included and what is not. 01:01:07.500 --> 01:01:07.860 I agree. 01:01:08.040 --> 01:01:13.580 And it's not clear right now. Because there is a lot of opportunity here for 01:01:13.580 --> 01:01:21.420 them to potentially make a quote-unquote agreement that sounds good but has limited actual effect. 01:01:21.900 --> 01:01:27.760 So you have to look for, you know, are we actually doing something meaningful? 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:34.860 And that is both... And look, to do something... We've got the same situation 01:01:34.860 --> 01:01:39.760 where the only thing the Democrats can do by themselves is filibuster in the 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.740 Senate and stop things entirely. 01:01:42.060 --> 01:01:48.300 To actually make a meaningful change, you need to have a decent number of Republicans on board, too. 01:01:49.100 --> 01:01:58.900 And you have had a handful of Republicans express discontent with what has been going on. 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.020 But it's unclear if they're enough. 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:02.000 Right. 01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.780 And I just saw that a judge in, 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:15.600 you know, that the state had filed a suit to block this surge in Minnesota, 01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:20.060 and the judge did not grant the—, 01:02:25.250 --> 01:02:34.050 I think that also the petition may have been a little bit too broad, but I don't know. 01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:48.130 Look, one thing, I think that actually was a good sign, whether or not it ramps back up again. 01:02:48.130 --> 01:02:53.750 The temporary back down by the administration, I think, was a good sign because 01:02:53.750 --> 01:02:56.410 it meant they were feeling the pressure here. 01:02:56.790 --> 01:03:02.450 They were feeling the fact Trump's poll numbers, specifically on immigration 01:03:02.450 --> 01:03:07.050 in general, but also specifically on immigration, have been absolutely tanking. 01:03:07.230 --> 01:03:10.390 So they've been going through the floor. 01:03:11.730 --> 01:03:14.930 The the the minnesota folks i 01:03:14.930 --> 01:03:17.690 think the intention i donald trump 01:03:17.690 --> 01:03:21.530 has been telegraphing his desire to use 01:03:21.530 --> 01:03:27.230 what is it the insurrection act right and i i think they had been telegraphing 01:03:27.230 --> 01:03:31.630 that they essentially wanted to put more and more and more pressure on minnesota 01:03:31.630 --> 01:03:37.450 almost i'm gonna say almost but not really almost in the hopes they haven't 01:03:37.450 --> 01:03:39.470 said this explicitly but i think it's fairly clear, 01:03:39.650 --> 01:03:43.370 in the hopes that violence would break out. 01:03:43.530 --> 01:03:47.570 Yes. That's been the goal. That's been the goal. Absolutely. 01:03:47.830 --> 01:03:53.230 The goal has been that these protesters would end up, 01:03:53.940 --> 01:04:02.360 Beating up, shooting something, an ICE or Border Patrol agent or other federal agent involved in this, 01:04:02.560 --> 01:04:08.260 or they'd start like riots and be burning things down and all of this kind of 01:04:08.260 --> 01:04:10.220 stuff, and it would get chaotic. 01:04:10.220 --> 01:04:17.820 And they could blame the protesters on this, and they could then invoke the 01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:20.260 Insurrection Act and start really 01:04:20.260 --> 01:04:24.840 cracking down and bringing in even more military force into the area. 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:30.980 And as you said earlier, the bait has not been taken. 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:31.860 No. 01:04:31.860 --> 01:04:41.800 The folks have been judiciously nonviolent and have been, yes, 01:04:42.060 --> 01:04:44.400 they've been getting in the way. 01:04:44.780 --> 01:04:48.020 They've been obstructing. They've been warning people. 01:04:48.780 --> 01:04:56.120 You know, they're blowing the whistles and the apps and signal groups and everything 01:04:56.120 --> 01:04:58.720 else to sort of warn people where to stay away from. 01:04:58.720 --> 01:05:05.140 Basically, they've been trying to follow these people around in such a way that 01:05:05.140 --> 01:05:10.180 makes it impossible for them to act as a, quote-unquote, secret police. 01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:16.040 Because everyone knows where they are all the time, and someone is always watching 01:05:16.040 --> 01:05:18.500 them and videoing everything they do. 01:05:19.140 --> 01:05:23.380 And maybe they haven't succeeded 100%. I'm sure they've done some things that 01:05:23.380 --> 01:05:29.000 have not been videoed. but that's the goal is to make it very, 01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.720 you know, make it wide open where they are. 01:05:32.860 --> 01:05:36.540 And if, if that's a problem, you get away from them. 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:41.720 And so, but they've been meticulously nonviolent. 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:47.880 They have not been causing problems. And so far, every single violent incident, 01:05:48.600 --> 01:05:54.980 has been the feds killing or beating or otherwise going overboard. 01:05:54.980 --> 01:06:00.900 There was the video of the kid in the rabbit hat who was abducted along with 01:06:00.900 --> 01:06:03.920 his father and shipped off to Texas. 01:06:04.020 --> 01:06:10.620 There was an elderly man who turned out to be completely legal, whatever. 01:06:11.080 --> 01:06:17.200 Dragged out in his underwear. Dragged out in... In the freezing temperatures. 01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:21.040 I mean, these people have no fuck. I mean, I'm sorry. 01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:27.000 You know, even like a police department going in to arrest a murderer, 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.820 anybody, doesn't do that. 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:37.000 Right. And so you keep hearing, and, you know, I still have very little sympathy, 01:06:37.660 --> 01:06:41.800 but you keep hearing from MAGA folks being like, this isn't what I voted for. 01:06:42.020 --> 01:06:45.240 I just wanted them to get rid of the violent criminals. 01:06:46.350 --> 01:06:50.790 By the way, I just saw one report that one of the things that the Minneapolis 01:06:50.790 --> 01:06:53.810 police is like really fed up also with them. 01:06:53.930 --> 01:06:56.590 It looks like a lot of the police officers are getting fed up. 01:06:56.690 --> 01:07:00.650 So they have started now ticketing ICE agents for traffic violations. 01:07:01.530 --> 01:07:04.710 I had seen one report of that, but I hadn't seen it confirmed. 01:07:04.970 --> 01:07:09.130 Yeah. I saw it from somebody else that looks like more credible. 01:07:09.330 --> 01:07:13.410 Yeah, it seems like the Minneapolis PD is like fucking like, OK, all right. 01:07:13.710 --> 01:07:17.390 OK, fuck. Listen, this is something that can happen. I've seen this happen. 01:07:17.570 --> 01:07:23.610 I remember still a story about Miami-Dade police officer being ticketed by state 01:07:23.610 --> 01:07:27.990 police, OK, for speeding, like on the turnpike that apparently they kept calling. 01:07:28.210 --> 01:07:32.030 Because apparently there were a few certain people like that work for Miami-Dade 01:07:32.030 --> 01:07:37.010 police that, oh, well, I I live very far. I want to get to work real fast. 01:07:37.470 --> 01:07:43.770 So they were doing 120 miles an hour regularly on the fucking turnpike to get to work. Okay. 01:07:44.410 --> 01:07:47.890 And the state troopers basically just said, had enough of this shit. 01:07:47.990 --> 01:07:49.150 They started ticketing them all. 01:07:49.350 --> 01:07:52.990 So this isn't, this is entirely legal. 01:07:53.550 --> 01:07:57.890 I mean, you can't just violate, just because you're a federal officer, 01:07:58.110 --> 01:08:01.370 that you have no right to violate all traffic laws. 01:08:02.090 --> 01:08:02.830 Mm-hmm. 01:08:03.450 --> 01:08:06.370 Okay. There's no such immunity. 01:08:07.030 --> 01:08:08.190 No, no. 01:08:09.520 --> 01:08:16.060 So, I don't know. I feel like this is, like I said, I think it's a good sign 01:08:16.060 --> 01:08:18.520 that they backed off because they were feeling the pressure. 01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:26.100 They were feeling very specifically that this wasn't going the way they expected. 01:08:26.100 --> 01:08:28.980 They didn't get the violence oh i i 01:08:28.980 --> 01:08:35.860 should also this is an important point that should not be left unsaid the protesters 01:08:35.860 --> 01:08:44.320 who were getting shot or roughed up or whatever i mean we added two killed but 01:08:44.320 --> 01:08:47.960 we had more as well suburban white folks, 01:08:49.860 --> 01:08:57.360 You know, I guarantee you, the administration was hoping that there would be 01:08:57.360 --> 01:09:00.460 conflict with black and brown people. 01:09:00.780 --> 01:09:02.980 And that would be the headlines. 01:09:04.020 --> 01:09:09.240 Instead, you get like middle-aged white folks. 01:09:10.620 --> 01:09:15.260 You know, you get an ICU nurse who cares for veterans who was killed. 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:21.400 You have a mom who had just dropped her kid off from preschool. 01:09:21.860 --> 01:09:22.200 Yeah. 01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:26.880 You know, and you have other examples. 01:09:27.120 --> 01:09:33.640 Like there was video that went viral of a really angry old white guy who was 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:37.900 upset, who is a local business owner, runs a bookstore. 01:09:37.900 --> 01:09:49.260 And you have the face of this is not your, you know, a brown immigrant with an accent. 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.740 Or, you know, an angry black person. 01:09:54.140 --> 01:09:57.360 No. Which is the stereotypes they were hoping for. 01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:01.360 Instead, no, it's suburban white 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:09.620 folks who are extremely angry and putting themselves on the line and who, 01:10:10.380 --> 01:10:13.860 to put it bluntly, 01:10:15.020 --> 01:10:21.460 look sympathetic even to MAGA folks when they see them getting beat up or killed. 01:10:23.510 --> 01:10:28.490 And, you know, so it has not been going the way they hoped. 01:10:28.810 --> 01:10:33.570 They have not gotten the violent backlash. They have not gotten to crack down in the way they did. 01:10:33.730 --> 01:10:39.630 They've got sympathetic folks who are winning the PR war. 01:10:39.870 --> 01:10:46.430 When you poll people about, did they do the right thing when they shot these people? 01:10:46.590 --> 01:10:49.010 The overwhelming result is no. 01:10:49.390 --> 01:10:51.470 The percentage saying yes is tiny. 01:10:52.430 --> 01:10:58.210 And so they're at the very least they're backing off to figure out what to do 01:10:58.210 --> 01:11:04.770 next but I think there will be a what to do next you know they're you know whether 01:11:04.770 --> 01:11:07.690 it's Ohio or Philly or Phoenix or here. 01:11:07.690 --> 01:11:11.610 In Seattle or whatever here is the interesting thing the one thing because they 01:11:11.610 --> 01:11:15.890 sent Tom Holman right to go and like that's. 01:11:15.890 --> 01:11:17.050 The guy whose name I couldn't remember. 01:11:17.690 --> 01:11:23.110 Supervise this and one of the things is that it seemed like from some of the 01:11:23.110 --> 01:11:25.950 internal things that were discussed, 01:11:26.910 --> 01:11:34.610 that Tom Holman was basically advocating strongly for returning to the Biden-era 01:11:34.610 --> 01:11:39.510 policies of how they were handling a lot of these cases. 01:11:40.430 --> 01:11:45.810 Which means, you know, none of this stupid shit like this. 01:11:45.870 --> 01:11:50.230 Because the reality is that in terms of deportations— I feel like that was ascendant 01:11:50.230 --> 01:11:52.850 for a few days, but now they're retreating again from that. 01:11:53.330 --> 01:11:55.510 You think that they're retreating from that again? 01:11:56.010 --> 01:12:00.310 Yeah. Because I think that the folks in the administration... 01:12:00.310 --> 01:12:04.530 I mean, this is the same, like, who talked to Donald Trump last thing, right? 01:12:04.670 --> 01:12:06.590 No, it's Steve Miller. Let's be clear. 01:12:06.690 --> 01:12:07.390 It's Steve Miller. 01:12:07.490 --> 01:12:11.310 Steve Miller is focused on maximum cruelty. He doesn't really care. 01:12:11.310 --> 01:12:14.430 So he thinks that, you know, we need this Gestapo confrontation. 01:12:15.810 --> 01:12:18.050 But the problem is, you know... 01:12:20.110 --> 01:12:26.850 Last week, the leading candidate for governor in Minnesota from the GOP basically quit the race. 01:12:27.710 --> 01:12:27.850 Right. 01:12:28.130 --> 01:12:31.390 And he quit the race because he's not an idiot. 01:12:32.190 --> 01:12:35.810 He saw the reality of what they are doing right now in Minnesota. 01:12:36.250 --> 01:12:44.630 And literally, the analysis was that basically that this is destroying the Republican 01:12:44.630 --> 01:12:49.330 Party in Minnesota. that after this, there is not going to be anything left 01:12:49.330 --> 01:12:50.950 of the Republican Party in Minnesota. 01:12:51.430 --> 01:12:55.530 So the one special election that happened this week was interesting because 01:12:55.530 --> 01:12:57.270 it was a very blue district. 01:12:57.530 --> 01:13:02.150 The Democrat was going to win no matter what. However, it was so blue already, 01:13:02.770 --> 01:13:06.010 that they expected the Democrat couldn't do any better. 01:13:06.670 --> 01:13:06.850 Right. 01:13:07.270 --> 01:13:12.650 You know, I believe, like, it was one where I'm not going to remember exact 01:13:12.650 --> 01:13:13.870 numbers, so these are ballpark. 01:13:13.870 --> 01:13:20.690 It was a 70-point margin the last time. And this time the margin was like 90-something points. 01:13:20.690 --> 01:13:24.190 It was close to—the Republican got 4%. 01:13:24.190 --> 01:13:26.010 Percent. The Republican got 4%. 01:13:26.010 --> 01:13:29.110 Whereas last time they got close to 20. 01:13:30.430 --> 01:13:34.670 So, you know, this is still like, again, very blue district, 01:13:34.910 --> 01:13:40.370 but it was so blue, no one figured it could go more blue. But it did. 01:13:41.110 --> 01:13:44.650 Yeah. I mean, but like, I mean, basically that it literally, 01:13:44.930 --> 01:13:51.810 I mean, almost no, I mean, the Republican support got down to 4%, Sam. Four. 01:13:52.390 --> 01:13:55.330 Four. I've never seen anything like that. 01:13:56.400 --> 01:14:05.580 So, anyway, I feel like they are, I don't know, like, you mentioned Miller. 01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:11.520 He was apparently posting again today. The latest post from a few hours ago. 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:15.040 From Stephen Miller. Plenty of countries 01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:18.420 in history have experimented with importing a foreign labor class. 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:22.880 The West is the first and only civilization to import a foreign labor class 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.380 that is granted full political rights, including welfare and the right to vote. 01:14:27.660 --> 01:14:30.180 All visas are a bridge to citizenship. 01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:35.540 In America, for generations now, the policy has been that anyone who would economically 01:14:35.540 --> 01:14:37.200 benefit from moving to the U.S. 01:14:37.260 --> 01:14:40.160 Can do so, exercise the franchise in the U.S. and their. 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.380 Are born will be full you full american citizens with 01:14:44.380 --> 01:14:47.340 all the rights and benefits therein now of course i hear 01:14:47.340 --> 01:14:50.600 this and i'm like awesome this is what makes america great 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:58.000 uh but miller people are interpreting his statement is basically like this would 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:03.260 be fine like we want to go back to that where we import people as slaves or 01:15:03.260 --> 01:15:07.920 indentured servants or at the very least second class non citizens, 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:11.400 like is done in many parts of the world today. 01:15:12.180 --> 01:15:22.900 And it's like, this is one of the core elements of Millerism and what MAGA is 01:15:22.900 --> 01:15:27.000 right now, is this, it's plain, 01:15:27.280 --> 01:15:32.720 flat-out white nationalism that the only true Americans are European Americans, 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:38.540 and everybody else doesn't really deserve to be here, and it's a shame we ever 01:15:38.540 --> 01:15:41.520 let them be citizens, let alone let anyone knew it. 01:15:42.360 --> 01:15:47.260 And this is the exact opposite. 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.600 I mean, I'm like, didn't you guys like watch Schoolhouse Rock? 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:57.300 The melting pot, like the, you know, I mean, everything. 01:15:57.860 --> 01:16:03.500 And I don't know. I know this is like not a universal experience, 01:16:03.500 --> 01:16:11.780 but my indoctrination into what was great about this country was specifically. 01:16:12.360 --> 01:16:17.200 That it was a country of immigrants, that we took the best from all over the world. 01:16:17.480 --> 01:16:21.160 And it was the land of opportunity and people would come here. 01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:23.400 The Statue of Liberty. 01:16:23.860 --> 01:16:30.760 The Statue of Liberty. Well, the Statue of Liberty originally was an anti-slavery 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.320 thing and only later got the immigrant connotation. But yes. 01:16:34.660 --> 01:16:35.000 Still. 01:16:36.500 --> 01:16:37.140 Anyway. 01:16:37.580 --> 01:16:43.840 I mean, still works both ways. Yes, against everything that this asshole's saying. 01:16:44.980 --> 01:16:49.340 Yeah. Anything else about this? I feel like it's... 01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:55.300 Keep watching. We're not done. I feel like people got a sense of relief that, 01:16:55.380 --> 01:16:56.580 hey, we won in Minnesota. 01:16:57.220 --> 01:16:58.920 We're a long ways from done. 01:16:59.940 --> 01:17:07.720 But I think that the one thing that it's showing to me and why it makes me long-term optimistic. 01:17:08.060 --> 01:17:10.280 Okay? Not talking about short-term. 01:17:10.900 --> 01:17:17.040 Is the resolve of the people. Because I do think, and I think many of us may 01:17:17.040 --> 01:17:23.340 be feared, that the people were going to just, you know, buckle and just give 01:17:23.340 --> 01:17:25.160 up against this aggression. 01:17:25.380 --> 01:17:29.400 And the reality is what it has shown to me is completely the opposite. 01:17:30.280 --> 01:17:35.120 That they are not backing down. That they are not going to be intimidated by 01:17:35.120 --> 01:17:38.560 agents murdering, you know, citizens. 01:17:38.980 --> 01:17:45.060 That they're not going to be intimidated by all these, you know, oppressive tactics. 01:17:45.260 --> 01:17:47.020 That as a matter of fact, it's the opposite. 01:17:47.340 --> 01:17:52.280 The oppressive tactics have made people get more enraged against this whole thing. 01:17:52.340 --> 01:17:56.800 Well, and I think that this is also a question of, like, the Trump administration's 01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:01.080 strategy on this. because they've got competing goals, right? 01:18:01.280 --> 01:18:06.620 Like, one is the theoretic, let's get rid of all the immigrants goal. 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:11.500 And frankly, like, if that was the number one goal, they probably wouldn't be 01:18:11.500 --> 01:18:13.480 starting in Minnesota. Right. 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.300 It's stupid. It's ridiculous. 01:18:16.900 --> 01:18:19.920 I mean, it's just, you know, yeah. 01:18:20.620 --> 01:18:23.320 And obviously, they didn't start in Minnesota. They've done other things. 01:18:23.440 --> 01:18:28.120 But the key is, they've been going after blue states and blue cities. 01:18:28.820 --> 01:18:35.700 Because this is not just about the immigrants. It's about showing it to the damn lips. 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:41.180 And, you know, the lips have basically given them a big fat middle finger and 01:18:41.180 --> 01:18:43.940 said, fuck you, we're not going to stand for it. 01:18:44.100 --> 01:18:49.640 So one approach that the administration could take, I don't think they're going 01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:55.480 to, but they could take, is like, look, let's do this in parts of the country 01:18:55.480 --> 01:18:58.980 that are more supportive of us doing this anyway. 01:18:59.660 --> 01:19:04.300 But that's not going to have that. Okay, here's the thing. If your point is 01:19:04.300 --> 01:19:10.120 to inflict maximum cruelty on your enemies, that's not going to do it. 01:19:10.540 --> 01:19:10.980 Right. 01:19:12.300 --> 01:19:15.800 That is the primary goal. 01:19:16.780 --> 01:19:23.640 Because if you look at deportations under fucking Biden and Obama, 01:19:24.420 --> 01:19:26.800 man, they were the supporting tons of, 01:19:27.820 --> 01:19:30.220 They were seriously enforcing laws. 01:19:30.740 --> 01:19:36.060 When we did the prediction show, we did identify that it has gone up under Trump. 01:19:36.300 --> 01:19:41.040 It has gone up, Sam. But think about the amount of money that's been poured into. 01:19:41.660 --> 01:19:45.000 And what is the net result in terms of deportations? 01:19:46.340 --> 01:19:51.060 And a lot of the stuff. And are they deporting the people that they said they 01:19:51.060 --> 01:19:56.320 did? A lot of the shit that they are doing right now, Sam, is they are taking 01:19:56.320 --> 01:19:59.720 people that are here legally and turning them into illegal people. 01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:01.840 They are here legally. 01:20:02.320 --> 01:20:07.820 Like the rumor is, for instance, on the Ohio thing for next week is they'll 01:20:07.820 --> 01:20:09.700 specifically go after Haitians. 01:20:09.820 --> 01:20:10.160 Haitians. 01:20:10.220 --> 01:20:18.280 Because the Haitians who are, as of today, here legally under temporary protective status. 01:20:18.280 --> 01:20:23.380 But that temporary protective status is due to expire next week, 01:20:23.380 --> 01:20:26.620 and the administration is choosing not to renew it. 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.200 Exactly, because Trump is choosing to make them now illegal. 01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.360 Right. So it's people who had been legal were all settling— Because. 01:20:33.360 --> 01:20:37.300 Oh, Haiti is safe and fine, you know, so we can send them all back there. 01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:38.300 Right. 01:20:38.480 --> 01:20:39.500 Which is insane. 01:20:40.280 --> 01:20:42.980 And so they will suddenly become 01:20:42.980 --> 01:20:46.640 illegal next week, and the administration will start going after them. 01:20:47.020 --> 01:20:50.520 Right. Right. But this is what I'm saying. 01:20:50.860 --> 01:20:56.640 This is not going after criminals. This is terminating people's legal status 01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:00.920 and then using cruelty to get them out of the country. 01:21:01.870 --> 01:21:05.850 Right. Okay, let's move on. 01:21:06.370 --> 01:21:12.010 I want one more topic, and I am going to make it the Epstein files and what's going on with those. 01:21:12.210 --> 01:21:18.990 So we had another big tranche released, 3 million-some documents. 01:21:19.710 --> 01:21:25.630 But interestingly, apparently the administration signaled, this is 3 million 01:21:25.630 --> 01:21:28.410 out of 6 million, but we're still, we're actually done. 01:21:29.510 --> 01:21:35.310 The other 3 million are all things we think we have right to not release for one reason or another. 01:21:36.270 --> 01:21:43.550 This latest batch has a bunch of additional stuff. People are still going through the 3 million. 01:21:45.430 --> 01:21:49.470 One element, and I know I've said this on the show before, but I think it's 01:21:49.470 --> 01:21:50.910 important to reiterate again. 01:21:52.350 --> 01:21:56.230 There are a number of things here that are, 01:21:57.200 --> 01:22:01.400 super scandalous, directly against Donald Trump accusations, 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:05.340 direct accusations of him abusing minors. 01:22:05.480 --> 01:22:11.280 There have been other places that have accused him of being present at murders. 01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:13.180 There have been all kinds of things. 01:22:13.500 --> 01:22:23.000 And for the most part, the major media is keeping a very far hands off mentioning 01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:28.300 that they're sort of scandalous things, but there's no evidence to back them up, et cetera. 01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.240 And there isn't. These are reports 01:22:32.240 --> 01:22:37.240 of people calling into tip lines with allegations for the most part. 01:22:39.260 --> 01:22:47.080 But what I don't, I keep saying the issue here, no, of course you can't jump 01:22:47.080 --> 01:22:50.540 straight into, is that accusation true? 01:22:50.740 --> 01:22:53.080 You can't start saying, oh, of course this is true. 01:22:54.180 --> 01:23:00.400 But what you should be looking at is, is there evidence the accusation was taken 01:23:00.400 --> 01:23:06.300 seriously and looked into in depth and ruled out? 01:23:06.780 --> 01:23:12.080 Like some of the summary tables they have, have a single line that say, 01:23:12.240 --> 01:23:14.860 the accuser was deemed not credible. 01:23:15.690 --> 01:23:21.290 Okay, tell me more. Why? Why was this not backed up? 01:23:21.990 --> 01:23:26.550 Did you just say, ah, this is a ridiculous charge, click? 01:23:27.030 --> 01:23:31.590 Or did you actually look into it in any sort of way, just try to back it up? 01:23:31.770 --> 01:23:36.270 I saw references to one of these that was apparently not followed. 01:23:36.530 --> 01:23:41.750 Well, one of the things is, in some of the cases, we don't know if they were followed up. 01:23:41.850 --> 01:23:46.570 What if the remaining three million documents shows that they did follow it 01:23:46.570 --> 01:23:50.390 up and then determined that it was false or whatever. 01:23:50.690 --> 01:23:56.810 You know, a big part of the story here, I mean, obviously there's all of the 01:23:56.810 --> 01:24:00.830 abuse itself and it would be nice to get to the bottom of that. 01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:07.550 But a secondary story that is also incredibly important, 01:24:07.930 --> 01:24:16.450 is how for decades this was swept under the rug and not followed up and not 01:24:16.450 --> 01:24:20.410 investigated seriously and people intentionally looked the other way. 01:24:21.110 --> 01:24:26.190 And now, obviously, you know, now 20 plus years later, it may be hard to get 01:24:26.190 --> 01:24:31.590 evidence one way or another that could, like, prove any of these allegations. 01:24:32.330 --> 01:24:36.150 So you do have a lot of unsubstantiated allegations. 01:24:36.530 --> 01:24:42.850 But I think a really important question that people aren't diving into nearly 01:24:42.850 --> 01:24:50.610 enough, I don't think, is what was or was not followed up on and who made those decisions and why. 01:24:51.990 --> 01:24:58.090 I mean, I think that's a key thing. And obviously, it's such a volume of files. 01:24:59.610 --> 01:25:04.070 It's such a huge volume of files. But also, look, the reality is that it brings 01:25:04.070 --> 01:25:07.090 into question, because of what happened before, 01:25:07.690 --> 01:25:11.290 and because a lot of the stuff was the incredible, because of the sweetheart 01:25:11.290 --> 01:25:16.150 deal that Epstein got, it brings into question all of those decisions in the first place. 01:25:16.830 --> 01:25:22.070 That all of these were not credible. when it's been shown that a lot of them were. 01:25:22.790 --> 01:25:33.810 Yes, I think that that's the fundamental thing is the default assumption going back decades on, 01:25:34.710 --> 01:25:38.890 I mean, this goes to the Me Too movement too with just women and sexual harassment 01:25:38.890 --> 01:25:44.090 in general, but very specifically in terms of these, the default assumption 01:25:44.090 --> 01:25:48.510 of the authorities going in was none of these accusations was credible. 01:25:48.710 --> 01:25:55.490 And this is just some random person trying to ruin the life of an important 01:25:55.490 --> 01:25:59.490 person or maybe get some money out of a settlement or whatever. 01:26:00.110 --> 01:26:03.990 And so the default was, of course, they're making this shit up. 01:26:04.150 --> 01:26:07.650 This is ridiculous. This would not actually be happening. 01:26:08.010 --> 01:26:14.310 And so all kinds of things were deemed non-credible and were not followed up 01:26:14.310 --> 01:26:16.450 that clearly should have been. 01:26:17.490 --> 01:26:24.650 And so you see a lot of these things where, look, you read some of these, 01:26:24.910 --> 01:26:30.510 you know, one of the accusations against Donald Trump was that he had Epstein 01:26:30.510 --> 01:26:38.410 procure for him parties with a bunch of underage girls that he would evaluate 01:26:38.410 --> 01:26:42.170 sexually and their details in the accusation. 01:26:43.030 --> 01:26:49.490 And is there any backup or proof of this? No, not right now, but is there lots of. 01:26:51.350 --> 01:26:55.770 Circumstantial. Like, we know there are stories about him doing similar things 01:26:55.770 --> 01:26:57.490 at his own damn beauty pageants. 01:26:57.590 --> 01:27:00.150 This is not that much of a stretch further. 01:27:00.290 --> 01:27:02.870 Is it believable? Yes. Do we know it's true? No. 01:27:03.070 --> 01:27:11.230 The question to me on all of these is, did someone take it seriously and dig 01:27:11.230 --> 01:27:12.610 into it and investigate? 01:27:12.610 --> 01:27:16.430 And I think in most of these cases, the answer is actually no. 01:27:16.430 --> 01:27:21.250 Because the one thing we're not seeing in these damn files is, 01:27:21.810 --> 01:27:26.530 oh, okay, here's the investigation we did that exonerated these people. 01:27:26.970 --> 01:27:33.050 That said, oh, they were accused of this, but we looked into it and actually 01:27:33.050 --> 01:27:36.310 X, Y, Z, Q, it could never have happened. 01:27:36.470 --> 01:27:40.330 He was not in the right city at the right time. 01:27:40.510 --> 01:27:42.870 There were witnesses that put him elsewhere. 01:27:43.270 --> 01:27:47.030 The person in question has a history of lying, blah, blah, blah, 01:27:47.170 --> 01:27:49.410 whatever. We are not seeing that. 01:27:49.990 --> 01:27:56.230 And you'd think they'd be in a hurry to get out that kind of information if it was there. 01:27:57.750 --> 01:28:02.730 And, you know, so we're left in this, like I've said for months and months and 01:28:02.730 --> 01:28:11.010 months now that the probable truth in these files is that there's lots of accusations, 01:28:11.010 --> 01:28:13.770 but very little proof. 01:28:14.630 --> 01:28:19.450 And so when they say there's nothing chargeable here, they're probably correct. 01:28:19.850 --> 01:28:25.050 You know, there's nothing with enough evidence to charge a specific thing. 01:28:25.490 --> 01:28:28.590 But I think that's actually part of the scandal. 01:28:29.360 --> 01:28:38.520 Is why was this let alone and not investigated at the time when these allegations 01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:42.400 were fresh so that something could be done about it? 01:28:43.260 --> 01:28:51.180 And I think there probably are all kinds of people under NDAs who had monetary 01:28:51.180 --> 01:28:56.320 settlements and stuff like that, and there should be an effort to legally break those. 01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:01.980 Because generally speaking, NDAs are not enforceable if they're covering up a crime. 01:29:02.180 --> 01:29:02.940 That's correct. 01:29:03.360 --> 01:29:04.140 You know? 01:29:04.320 --> 01:29:09.620 That is correct. And, I mean, the other thing is that if the NDA was executed 01:29:09.620 --> 01:29:16.640 between Epstein and their state and the party, the Epstein and state can release them from the NDA. 01:29:17.160 --> 01:29:22.360 And, I mean, the receiver, the signer of the NDA could choose to break it. Period. 01:29:23.060 --> 01:29:27.580 You know, and, oh, let the Epstein estate try to sue them over it. 01:29:27.660 --> 01:29:29.940 You know what I'm saying? I mean, and we know. 01:29:30.040 --> 01:29:35.940 I mean, the whole thing with, you know, Stormy Daniels and all was about Trump in an NDA as well. 01:29:36.380 --> 01:29:43.420 Trump has not been a stranger to NDAs to shut up people with embarrassing information. 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:51.260 Exactly. So, you know, they can be broken. So that shouldn't really be a consideration at this point. 01:29:51.260 --> 01:29:56.680 But, I mean, the honest situation at this point, though, is if someone was going 01:29:56.680 --> 01:30:02.080 to be doing that kind of pushing, it would be DOJ, and DOJ's not about to do any of that stuff. 01:30:02.440 --> 01:30:05.260 Oh, no, DOJ, you know. 01:30:05.740 --> 01:30:07.480 So, I mean, if anything. 01:30:07.700 --> 01:30:10.620 They are further— DOJ's not going to do any to try to get to the bottom of this. 01:30:10.700 --> 01:30:13.240 However— They are further participating in the cover-up. 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:18.440 Even with the law that was passed, which, as we have found out as well, 01:30:18.980 --> 01:30:20.520 does not have teeth on it. 01:30:20.780 --> 01:30:25.380 Like the fact that they have been in violation of this law for more than a month 01:30:25.380 --> 01:30:28.740 because they have not released everything, they have not followed the guidance. 01:30:28.860 --> 01:30:34.300 And by the way, they've claimed they needed all this extra time to properly 01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:38.180 redact victims' names, but they're not. 01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:43.560 Every single release has been exposing victims' information. 01:30:44.740 --> 01:30:47.020 They're not doing a good job at that either. 01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:53.840 And at this point, I'm not willing to give the benefit of a doubt. 01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:57.260 I figure it's intentional, you know? 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:04.040 Exactly what they redact or not redact. I'm not like, yes, there are a bunch of stupid people here. 01:31:04.140 --> 01:31:05.620 There are a bunch of people who don't know what they're doing. 01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:08.280 But a lot of this stuff, I'm like, they did that on purpose. 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:15.840 Hey, I just realized that you did the movie reviews and you didn't do a movie review on Melania. 01:31:17.540 --> 01:31:19.400 I have put it on my list, though. 01:31:19.980 --> 01:31:21.220 It is on your list? 01:31:21.340 --> 01:31:22.440 It is on my list. 01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:26.100 So what, it may be done, you know, in about 30 years? 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.000 30, 40 years, I'm sure I'll get to it, yeah. 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:35.220 That will be quite surprising as we're like, I don't know, we're recording this podcast at age 85. 01:31:36.020 --> 01:31:39.380 And all of a sudden Sam, oh, movie review! 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:45.040 Melania! And I'm like, fuck. Really? Now? 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:47.740 Really? You know. 01:31:48.140 --> 01:31:52.400 So, by the way, speaking of Melania, and going back to the Epstein files, 01:31:54.180 --> 01:32:00.480 this latest batch has a bunch with additional people on it. 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.960 So, Melania is in there. We have not yet had, 01:32:04.780 --> 01:32:09.440 a hundred percent validation of what a few people have been saying that Epstein 01:32:09.440 --> 01:32:14.700 actually like was the one who introduced Melania to Donald Trump in the first place. 01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:20.360 But we do have apparently some emails between Melania and Maxwell, 01:32:20.360 --> 01:32:26.060 but we also have other folks too. So let's start out with Yvonne. 01:32:26.300 --> 01:32:33.360 My prediction on the two to 2026 prediction show was that the person other than 01:32:33.360 --> 01:32:39.160 Donald Trump who would be further exposed in the Epstein file, I predicted Bill Gates. 01:32:39.500 --> 01:32:43.440 Is there anything about Bill Gates in this latest drop? 01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:48.660 Well, to be fair, it wasn't about pedophilia. It was, I mean, 01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:52.760 it was, it was, it was bad, but it wasn't pedophilia. 01:32:52.980 --> 01:32:58.520 It was apparently he banged some Russian hooker and apparently got an STD. 01:32:58.780 --> 01:32:59.220 Plural, I think, plural. 01:32:59.980 --> 01:33:06.320 Yeah, hookers, plural. And I guess he wasn't careful. And he got an STD. 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:15.120 And he asked Epstein for help in getting pills that he could surreptitiously 01:33:15.120 --> 01:33:17.700 give his wife without his wife knowing. 01:33:18.200 --> 01:33:19.200 Fuck me. 01:33:20.140 --> 01:33:24.480 Fuck it out. You'd think somebody like Bill Gates would have actually lots of 01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:26.840 places he could surreptitiously get pills if. 01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:30.380 He wanted them. Not ask this monster. God. Okay. 01:33:31.980 --> 01:33:35.800 Well, you know, I think that, look, let's just say this. 01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:40.300 It's pretty clear why Melinda got a divorce. 01:33:41.220 --> 01:33:45.020 Yes, yes. She's been open for a while that it was Epstein related. 01:33:46.300 --> 01:33:55.580 But what I'm saying is, I know it was, but this just provides a fuller picture of that. 01:33:55.860 --> 01:33:56.680 Oh, God. 01:33:57.260 --> 01:34:01.680 We've also got Elon Musk in there many times. Apparently like asking for what 01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:05.400 the best time to come to the island is for a wild party. 01:34:06.060 --> 01:34:06.700 Yeah. 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:13.380 We got some football owner. I don't even know those folks, but some football owner is in there. 01:34:13.660 --> 01:34:20.600 Steve Tisch, who is a co-owner of the New York Giants, who is part of the Tisch 01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:24.700 family that owns Lowe's, that used to own CBS. 01:34:25.660 --> 01:34:26.180 Okay. 01:34:26.860 --> 01:34:27.120 Okay. 01:34:28.060 --> 01:34:32.240 So, yeah, he was mentioned. It was, yeah. 01:34:32.820 --> 01:34:36.900 We've got some other folks, too. And like I said, there was a whole bunch of 01:34:36.900 --> 01:34:40.260 Donald Trump stuff. Abuse of minors. 01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:41.220 Yeah. 01:34:41.340 --> 01:34:45.840 Abuse of non-minors. Rape. We had that. I saw. Rape. 01:34:46.300 --> 01:34:49.660 We had, and it wasn't part of the Epstein files, 01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:52.780 but I will mention on here, Last week 01:34:52.780 --> 01:34:56.040 going around on the social medias was an interview 01:34:56.040 --> 01:35:06.920 with some guy who claimed to be a male victim of Epstein that also had all kinds 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:14.080 of additional allegations against Donald Trump and a whole bunch of other folks. 01:35:14.080 --> 01:35:21.660 And again, these are sexual abuse of minors, but going beyond that into murders, 01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.940 animal cruelty even, like all kinds of stuff. 01:35:26.040 --> 01:35:30.460 And again, this is all the same scenario where it's an allegation, 01:35:30.460 --> 01:35:35.280 but without any backing information. So the question, again, 01:35:35.400 --> 01:35:37.820 becomes, was it investigated? 01:35:38.100 --> 01:35:42.780 Is anybody going to investigate it? Is anybody going to dig in or not? 01:35:42.980 --> 01:35:45.140 Like, maybe none of it's credible. 01:35:45.360 --> 01:35:50.220 Maybe none of it's credible. But what I want to see is proof that somebody actually 01:35:50.220 --> 01:35:53.980 took it seriously and looked into it at some point in time. Any of these. 01:35:55.280 --> 01:36:00.440 And who else? Any other names that strike you that were in this week's batch? 01:36:00.440 --> 01:36:04.440 Not that jump out to me, like right now, no, not at this point. 01:36:05.220 --> 01:36:09.940 Well, and again, the administration is apparently now saying that they're essentially 01:36:09.940 --> 01:36:14.040 done releasing these files, even though there are apparently at least 3 million 01:36:14.040 --> 01:36:15.440 more documents unreleased. 01:36:16.060 --> 01:36:19.840 And so the question is, what, if anything, can anybody do about it? 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:23.500 This seems to be another example where there's a question of who, 01:36:23.580 --> 01:36:25.180 if anybody, has standing documents, 01:36:25.860 --> 01:36:27.540 Do they pass another law? 01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:34.980 Do, you know, who can sue them, if anybody? And if they do sue them, what's the route? 01:36:35.420 --> 01:36:41.360 One of the Congress folks, a couple of the Congress folks went to court trying 01:36:41.360 --> 01:36:46.360 to say, trying to get a special master appointed, said, we can't trust DOJ to do this. 01:36:46.500 --> 01:36:50.540 Let's get a special master in here, do it instead. The particular judge said 01:36:50.540 --> 01:36:57.960 that the specific case they were trying to attach themselves to do this was 01:36:57.960 --> 01:36:59.720 not appropriate. They could not do that. 01:36:59.860 --> 01:37:03.660 They could go try again a different way. But there are apparently all kinds 01:37:03.660 --> 01:37:08.040 of questions about, like, generally speaking, individual Congress people don't 01:37:08.040 --> 01:37:10.320 have standing to sue for these kinds of things. 01:37:10.320 --> 01:37:14.260 They've lost in court for that kind of thing before. So if Congress really wanted 01:37:14.260 --> 01:37:17.900 to do something about it, Congress would have to act as a whole once again, 01:37:18.180 --> 01:37:23.780 which means you need majorities again. You need to be able to pass the law again. 01:37:24.160 --> 01:37:30.680 And they did this, and it passed by an overwhelming majority. 01:37:31.580 --> 01:37:39.920 But it's unclear they could do that again. You know, so I don't know. 01:37:40.540 --> 01:37:49.620 My gut feeling is that the 90% of the worst things that we've heard in these 01:37:49.620 --> 01:37:51.340 allegations are probably true. 01:37:52.260 --> 01:37:59.100 There may be some bit at the top, but, you know, you may have a few folks who 01:37:59.100 --> 01:38:03.140 are in there because, you know, it was pointed out. I was listening to a conversation. 01:38:03.380 --> 01:38:07.920 I think it was on, oh God, I have to say, MSNOW. 01:38:09.100 --> 01:38:13.700 God damn, like, you know, I know they had divorced from NBC, but still, whatever. 01:38:14.320 --> 01:38:17.760 Anyway, there was a conversation on there and they were talking about how in 01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:20.500 the Kavanaugh case, if you remember, 01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:25.440 there was a period of time when they just said, here's a tip line. 01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:31.100 Call in with anything you know about Kavanaugh. And while there were a handful 01:38:31.100 --> 01:38:34.080 of real accusations against Kavanaugh, 01:38:34.360 --> 01:38:42.860 apparently that tip line was full of absolute shit of people calling in with 01:38:42.860 --> 01:38:46.920 stuff that was absolutely 100 percent made up, 01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:53.760 was impossible scenarios at impossible times where the players were not even in those places. 01:38:54.440 --> 01:38:59.680 And it was just people calling in because they hated Kavanaugh making shit up. 01:39:00.780 --> 01:39:05.640 And I'm sure you have- A tip line like that is not the best way to be gathering really information. 01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:12.020 Well, and a lot of these accusations that we're talking about that are the most 01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:20.120 out there are from a tip line that was set up around 10 years ago on Epstein 01:39:20.120 --> 01:39:21.400 and Trump-related stuff. 01:39:21.980 --> 01:39:27.020 Specifically Epstein-related stuff. Yeah, but here's my point. 01:39:27.380 --> 01:39:31.940 But, but, but, but, but, there was a difference between what was happening politically 01:39:31.940 --> 01:39:39.760 with Kavanaugh and, you know, the hearings versus 10 years ago when really the 01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.120 Epstein thing wasn't on most people's radar. 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:48.640 Well, my point is, though, and like a lot of the calls into there were about Trump stuff, right? 01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:56.200 My point is, there are a lot of people out there who would find it a fun thing 01:39:56.200 --> 01:40:01.920 to do to call into a tip line about that and make stuff up about Donald Trump. 01:40:02.120 --> 01:40:04.480 That is absolutely true. However... 01:40:05.860 --> 01:40:13.480 There is so much that we actually do have evidence about that it's worth following up. 01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:21.900 And my feeling from hearing what we have gotten out is that most of these things 01:40:21.900 --> 01:40:24.080 were just not followed up seriously. 01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:30.880 You know, and there may well be, I would not be surprised in the slightest if 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:35.380 there was made up shit in there about Donald Trump from people who just called 01:40:35.380 --> 01:40:37.180 in and are like, I hate Donald Trump. 01:40:37.400 --> 01:40:43.960 I'm going to say that he, you know, he raped children and threw babies into Lake Michigan. 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:51.080 You know, some stuff may be made up, but I would be willing to bet 90% of the 01:40:51.080 --> 01:40:53.320 allegations we're hearing about actually were true. 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:58.760 They just fit the pattern so damn well with the things that we do know about. 01:40:59.410 --> 01:41:05.670 They just take it a little bit further. And some of the details do line up. 01:41:05.970 --> 01:41:11.570 And so, like, at the very least, again, again, I keep coming back to this. 01:41:12.050 --> 01:41:18.670 At the very least, they deserved a serious investigation where people treated 01:41:18.670 --> 01:41:20.130 the allegation seriously. 01:41:20.990 --> 01:41:26.050 Looked into it, tried to prove one way or another, you know, 01:41:26.210 --> 01:41:29.050 what's going on here? Is this bullshit? 01:41:29.410 --> 01:41:31.490 Or is there something to dig in here further? 01:41:31.910 --> 01:41:37.610 And maybe some of these things could be outright proven to be false. 01:41:37.830 --> 01:41:42.150 Maybe some of the things, you know, there's tentative stuff, 01:41:42.170 --> 01:41:44.650 but we really can't prove a case, but we tried. 01:41:45.330 --> 01:41:49.490 But at least the attempt should have happened. And I think it's very clear that 01:41:49.490 --> 01:41:51.910 the attempt did not happen in most of these cases. 01:41:52.270 --> 01:41:56.610 And that should be looked into as a scandal in and of itself. 01:41:57.890 --> 01:42:05.350 Who made the call not to take these seriously and look into them further. Anyway. 01:42:05.770 --> 01:42:07.490 Okay. I think we're done, Yvonne. 01:42:08.010 --> 01:42:09.370 We're done. We're done. Yep. 01:42:10.110 --> 01:42:15.110 Okay. As usual, go to curmudgeon-corner.com. You can see our archives. 01:42:15.210 --> 01:42:17.550 You can see all the ways to contact us. 01:42:17.770 --> 01:42:21.970 You got all the stuffs. All the stuffs. 01:42:22.790 --> 01:42:25.310 The stuffs. Importantly, you've also... The stuffs. 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We will ring a bell, 01:43:05.450 --> 01:43:07.150 all that kind of stuff at $2 a month or more. 01:43:07.270 --> 01:43:10.490 Or if you just ask us, we will invite you to the Curbudgeons Corner Slack. 01:43:10.650 --> 01:43:15.650 And that is where folks have been chatting and all of this kind of stuff. 01:43:16.150 --> 01:43:19.890 So, Yvonne, do you have a highlight from the Slack for this week? 01:43:22.130 --> 01:43:25.350 He is unprepared. He is unprepared. 01:43:28.390 --> 01:43:29.310 Shame. 01:43:29.910 --> 01:43:30.010 Shame. 01:43:30.530 --> 01:43:40.610 Oh, yes. This one. Elderly lottery winner uses jackpot to build 288 million 01:43:40.610 --> 01:43:44.330 pound drug empire making pills from his cottage. 01:43:45.110 --> 01:43:50.870 This guy apparently, you know, we keep hearing the stories about the guys who 01:43:50.870 --> 01:43:53.310 get a lottery jackpot and roll it broke. 01:43:53.790 --> 01:43:59.610 No, this guy got a lottery jackpot and decided to invest aggressively. 01:43:59.910 --> 01:44:07.410 Except it appears that it was a massive drug lab in the stables opposite his 01:44:07.410 --> 01:44:10.530 cottage somewhere in the UK. 01:44:11.670 --> 01:44:16.930 A 65-year-old used the facilities to build a sophisticated lab to produce counterfeit 01:44:16.930 --> 01:44:22.110 medication, estimated to have a street value of up to 288 million pounds. 01:44:23.480 --> 01:44:27.000 I mean, I don't know, Yvonne, if I win the lottery, I mean, what else would 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.760 I do? I mean, this sounds like the perfect plan. 01:44:30.280 --> 01:44:33.100 Like, you know, forget all this other stuff. 01:44:33.320 --> 01:44:38.300 If I can, if I win the lottery, I could become a master criminal. 01:44:39.120 --> 01:44:42.240 And apparently, why would that not be my plan? 01:44:43.240 --> 01:44:46.700 Yeah, I guess that's, you know, that was, I mean, he was like, 01:44:46.820 --> 01:44:53.080 look, but look, in fairness, we criticize and we, you know, So many shows cover 01:44:53.080 --> 01:44:57.140 all these people that take their lottery winnings and basically blow them. 01:44:57.320 --> 01:45:02.200 And this guy, I mean, Jesus, quite an entrepreneur. 01:45:02.980 --> 01:45:05.520 There you go. Beautiful. 01:45:06.280 --> 01:45:06.560 So. 01:45:07.660 --> 01:45:11.560 Okay. With that, we're done. Thank you, everybody, for joining us again. 01:45:12.840 --> 01:45:17.560 Hopefully, both Yvonne and I are done with our family medical dramas and we 01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:21.180 can be back normally next week. Right, Yvonne? We're done? 01:45:21.320 --> 01:45:21.580 Yes. 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:27.380 I mean, I do have some follow-up procedures to do, but nothing that's unplanned, 01:45:27.580 --> 01:45:29.680 nothing that should take me out of commission, you know? 01:45:29.940 --> 01:45:35.040 So, anyway, thanks, everybody, for joining us. 01:45:35.400 --> 01:45:40.940 Have a great week. Stay safe. Have fun. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. 01:45:42.060 --> 01:45:43.900 We're out of here. Goodbye. 01:45:44.540 --> 01:45:44.940 Bye. 01:46:14.940 --> 01:46:19.420 Thank you. Okay, heading stop. See you later, everyone. Bye. 01:46:20.060 --> 01:46:22.640 All right. Thank you.