WEBVTT 00:00:03.190 --> 00:00:04.650 I hear barking. 00:00:05.330 --> 00:00:09.130 Checking. Yes. Yes, you do. 00:00:10.330 --> 00:00:13.930 Okay. Blee-blee-blee-blee-blee-blee-blee-blee. 00:00:19.390 --> 00:00:21.930 Ruh-ruh-ruh. Ruh-ruh. 00:00:24.530 --> 00:00:25.370 Okay. 00:00:30.010 --> 00:00:34.830 Okay, all that's taken care of. Let's wait for the dog to shut up. 00:00:36.410 --> 00:00:40.950 Did somebody just come by or something? Roar. Oh. 00:00:41.730 --> 00:00:44.430 Oh, there they are. Oh, that was bad. 00:00:52.770 --> 00:00:57.610 Jadski, there's nothing going on. Oh, my God. 00:01:13.930 --> 00:01:16.210 Well, he's obviously bothered by something. 00:01:16.810 --> 00:01:19.870 Who knows what? He's delusional most of the time. 00:01:20.550 --> 00:01:22.210 Oh, okay. There you go. 00:01:24.190 --> 00:01:27.350 Or, you know, it's something like, you know, there's a squirrel taunting him 00:01:27.350 --> 00:01:29.350 from the front yard. You know, that kind of thing. 00:01:30.010 --> 00:01:31.470 And see how that could be annoying. 00:01:32.830 --> 00:01:39.330 Although there isn't any that I can see on our little camera right now. Okay. 00:01:39.830 --> 00:01:42.830 Is he quiet? I think so. 00:01:43.450 --> 00:01:44.810 Shall I just hit start? 00:01:45.210 --> 00:01:45.750 Yes. 00:01:46.430 --> 00:01:49.430 Here we go. Music. 00:02:09.760 --> 00:02:15.540 Welcome to Curmudgeons Corner for Saturday, November 29th, 2025. 00:02:16.500 --> 00:02:20.320 It's about 1715 UTC as we're starting to record. 00:02:20.500 --> 00:02:24.660 I am Sam Minter and Yvonne Bowe is with us again. Hello, Yvonne. 00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:25.980 Hi. 00:02:27.180 --> 00:02:32.180 You seem more chipper than last week. Is your recovery continuing apace? 00:02:32.540 --> 00:02:37.340 It is. I mean, yeah, it is. You know, it's getting better. 00:02:37.780 --> 00:02:38.300 Okay. 00:02:38.300 --> 00:02:42.000 It is, you know, it is an upward slope. 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:44.500 That's better than a downward slope. 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:50.420 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's making progress. It's making significant progress, yes. 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:53.380 Excellent. Well, um. 00:02:53.460 --> 00:02:57.800 I mean, I am, they said six weeks and barely over three. So it's, you know. 00:02:58.220 --> 00:03:01.920 So it's going the way it's supposed to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um. 00:03:02.020 --> 00:03:02.140 Yes. 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.220 Anyway, we're going to do our usual, our first segment. we'll talk about lighter 00:03:06.220 --> 00:03:09.780 and frothier things and whatever, whatever, blah, blah, blah, 00:03:09.860 --> 00:03:11.900 blah, blah with Yvonne and I. 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:17.200 I'm trying to catch up on movies and stuff. So yeah, lots of blah, blahs, lots of blah. 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:20.780 Blahs. Lots of blah, blahs, lots of blah, blahs, blah, blahs. 00:03:21.040 --> 00:03:26.600 Yeah, lots of blah, blahs. And you know, I'm working on catching up with the 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:27.860 movies and blah, blah, blah. 00:03:28.980 --> 00:03:34.100 Yeah, more blah, blah, blah. Anyway, but Yvonne will pick something else undoubtedly 00:03:34.100 --> 00:03:36.940 and then we'll do more serious stuff towards the end. 00:03:37.500 --> 00:03:42.940 We're towards that. The last more than half. You know, it's usually mostly serious 00:03:42.940 --> 00:03:45.880 stuff, but, you know, we like to start out with the other stuff. 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.620 So what's up this week with you, Yvonne, that you want to bring up for our butt first? 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:54.340 Can I just say that I would be okay with not having to work again? 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:57.780 I mean, if I could sustain the income. 00:03:58.260 --> 00:03:58.660 Yeah. 00:03:58.740 --> 00:04:03.600 That's all I'm saying. I mean, it would be just, you know, I... 00:04:04.100 --> 00:04:08.060 You know, this last month of being unemployed, 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:17.390 From a mental health point of view, I am so much happier than I have been in years, years. 00:04:18.050 --> 00:04:21.990 I am enjoying myself. I am relaxing. 00:04:22.690 --> 00:04:26.910 I am get, I mean, I'm not getting as much done as I would like to get done. 00:04:27.030 --> 00:04:30.710 That never happens, but I'm getting stuff done that I'd like to get done. 00:04:30.870 --> 00:04:35.050 And the things that I'm getting done are the things I want to get done rather 00:04:35.050 --> 00:04:37.570 than other stuff that's going on. 00:04:38.210 --> 00:04:39.290 You're not commuting? 00:04:39.810 --> 00:04:45.030 I'm not commuting. I mean, you know, and I, you know, I, I had, 00:04:45.110 --> 00:04:47.730 I basically mentally had said, 00:04:47.910 --> 00:04:55.410 I'll take November and, you know, November, I'm going to just relax like this. 00:04:55.550 --> 00:05:01.650 And then come December, I have to start taking the idea of figuring out how 00:05:01.650 --> 00:05:05.190 I'll make money later more seriously, you know? 00:05:05.290 --> 00:05:05.530 Okay. 00:05:05.530 --> 00:05:09.430 And, but I'll be completely honest with you. 00:05:09.650 --> 00:05:18.630 The idea of actually, even though I intellectually know it is most likely what 00:05:18.630 --> 00:05:20.230 I will end up having to do. 00:05:20.370 --> 00:05:28.270 The idea of going back to a regular corporate job is like horrifies me. 00:05:28.430 --> 00:05:34.250 It's like, I mentally do not want to do that. Like I want to, 00:05:34.370 --> 00:05:38.090 so I'm like, you know, I, I see the little things go by of like, 00:05:38.490 --> 00:05:42.970 oh, you know, make money with day trading. Oh, okay. 00:05:43.250 --> 00:05:46.550 That sounds great. You know, let me try that. 00:05:46.770 --> 00:05:53.230 Or, or, you know, whatever scam I get, I get the little like texts all the time, 00:05:53.410 --> 00:05:57.530 you know, let's see what, what's the most recent one I have? 00:05:57.650 --> 00:05:59.450 Like, I'm just, I'm just looking at, 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.880 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. They're just stupid political ones, too. 00:06:04.420 --> 00:06:12.020 Oh, but I know I get several of these a day, so I just have to find one that's appropriate. 00:06:12.780 --> 00:06:16.120 Oh, well, of course I get the ones that are just completely unknown numbers. 00:06:16.340 --> 00:06:19.020 Hey, long time no see. Where are you staying these days? 00:06:19.620 --> 00:06:22.380 Oh, where are you staying these days, Sam? I get several of these every day. 00:06:24.200 --> 00:06:29.700 But anyway, you guys know what I'm talking about. These make money fast things, 00:06:29.900 --> 00:06:32.680 work from home, make hundreds and hundreds of dollars every day, 00:06:32.820 --> 00:06:33.660 you know, doing nothing. 00:06:34.020 --> 00:06:37.920 You'll make a thousand dollars a day working one hour a day. 00:06:38.180 --> 00:06:41.960 Yeah, these kinds of things. I get these scam texts all the time and I'm like, 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.760 oh, that sounds good. Maybe I could try that. 00:06:46.080 --> 00:06:46.880 You know, 00:06:49.940 --> 00:06:54.120 as you start diluting yourself, this shit starts becoming like viable. 00:06:54.700 --> 00:06:55.180 Exactly. 00:06:55.640 --> 00:06:57.540 It's a you. Yeah, you start to say, hey. 00:06:57.540 --> 00:07:00.640 It's like you know maybe i 00:07:00.640 --> 00:07:04.680 can uh yeah maybe i 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.120 don't know there are these scams about like sell 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:13.780 whatever online or read and you look there's all kinds of crap okay and and 00:07:13.780 --> 00:07:19.240 you know i and i'm i'm like letting uh you know and and part of it even on my 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.960 little personal projects i know i'm like really stretching it to think any of 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:25.680 them could make any money whatsoever you know but, 00:07:26.540 --> 00:07:36.040 I spent a lot of the time from after all the turkey stuff was over Thanksgiving to now. 00:07:36.710 --> 00:07:40.430 Like, you know, I've been working, you know, one of one of the projects that 00:07:40.430 --> 00:07:45.770 I have is this Juke Potter thing for random podcast discovery and jukepotter.com. 00:07:45.890 --> 00:07:46.630 Everybody go check it out. 00:07:47.050 --> 00:07:51.390 Anyway, like I threw my random to do list thing, which, by the way, 00:07:51.450 --> 00:07:53.890 I've also enhanced my to do list mechanism. 00:07:54.590 --> 00:07:58.350 So I'll show you that in a second because I've got a website I can show you on that now. 00:07:59.390 --> 00:08:03.590 But, you know, what came up was, OK, work on some Juke Potter again. 00:08:03.710 --> 00:08:05.930 So I started working on some Juke Potter again. And the thing, 00:08:05.990 --> 00:08:11.530 the thing that was next on my list was like, figure out some monetization for it. Right. 00:08:11.710 --> 00:08:15.470 So now if you go to jukepotter.com there, there, 00:08:15.650 --> 00:08:20.030 I now have put in samples cause nobody's actually paying me cause nobody's going 00:08:20.030 --> 00:08:24.530 to this damn website, of course, but like I've built a monetization mechanism 00:08:24.530 --> 00:08:27.850 where people can buy sponsored placements on the site, you know? 00:08:27.990 --> 00:08:33.510 And so of course I've put in my four podcasts. I've put in an additional eight 00:08:33.510 --> 00:08:38.050 podcasts from from that Snohomish podcast network thing that I've been going 00:08:38.050 --> 00:08:40.170 to mixers on just as samples. 00:08:40.410 --> 00:08:44.070 So like if you go to the site, you know, a certain, you know, 00:08:44.110 --> 00:08:48.050 sponsored ones come up if you're in the category that those things are part of. 00:08:48.370 --> 00:08:52.530 And I'm like, you know, here's the pricing model. And if it became super, 00:08:52.670 --> 00:08:55.890 super popular, I could actually charge people from it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:08:56.530 --> 00:09:00.430 Now, it's not got enough features yet that I'm going to go out and publicize it. 00:09:00.550 --> 00:09:04.690 And it would take a huge amount of volume to make any non-trivial amount of cash. 00:09:04.870 --> 00:09:08.450 And so most likely, it would never make more than Curmudgeon's Corner makes 00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:10.150 us, which is like $25 a month. 00:09:10.270 --> 00:09:15.790 But I've built the mechanism so it could, you know, and I don't know. 00:09:16.350 --> 00:09:25.710 But yeah, and I also am thinking, okay, what's the minimum I could actually get buy on? 00:09:25.890 --> 00:09:30.770 and not, like, be thrown out of the house, you know? And not lose the house. 00:09:30.770 --> 00:09:33.950 These are the thoughts that you're like, I don't remember what you're going through. 00:09:34.790 --> 00:09:37.690 Exactly it's like how could 00:09:37.690 --> 00:09:41.050 i how could i coast how could 00:09:41.050 --> 00:09:44.550 i coast and not actually go to work and and 00:09:44.550 --> 00:09:47.470 you know like it's not saying you know 00:09:47.470 --> 00:09:50.730 i recognizing you know i i i 00:09:50.730 --> 00:09:54.330 am not in a position where i can live completely 00:09:54.330 --> 00:09:57.510 off my savings for the rest of my life but you 00:09:57.510 --> 00:10:04.570 know if i found a nice shopping cart and a bush to live under maybe i could 00:10:04.570 --> 00:10:11.950 you know i don't know i don't know i don't know you know i i and and of course 00:10:11.950 --> 00:10:15.750 like job market sucks right now and is getting worse of course oh. 00:10:15.750 --> 00:10:16.910 My god it's it's it's. 00:10:16.910 --> 00:10:18.870 You know so so it's like all. 00:10:18.870 --> 00:10:23.870 I've been sharing is on the slack are all these terrible like like like just 00:10:23.870 --> 00:10:28.210 job news and you know the administration has decided, 00:10:30.430 --> 00:10:35.730 with the same attitude they had during COVID is now the attitude they're having with the economy. 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:39.990 Hey, you know, how do we solve the problem with the COVID cases? Stop testing. 00:10:40.290 --> 00:10:45.010 So, hey, how do we solve the problem with the economic numbers looking bad? 00:10:45.310 --> 00:10:46.990 Hey, let's stop publishing them. 00:10:47.690 --> 00:10:48.570 Right, exactly. 00:10:48.870 --> 00:10:49.690 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:51.290 --> 00:10:54.510 So, yeah, it's like, well, what's the point of even looking, 00:10:54.750 --> 00:10:56.250 right? You know, so I don't know. 00:10:56.770 --> 00:11:02.130 I think these are terrible times. But it is, I think there is... 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:06.540 And memory serves, and I had read certain articles, that this is probably one 00:11:06.540 --> 00:11:11.980 of the worst, at the start of December, it's probably one of the worst times to be looking for a job. 00:11:12.300 --> 00:11:12.740 Yeah. 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:21.100 I did get a job many years ago that I started in December, but pretty sure I 00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:23.660 remember correctly, the interview started like in September. 00:11:25.140 --> 00:11:29.960 So this was like in 2009. So it wasn't like, you know, but nobody. 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:33.560 Most people don't kick off. when i started 00:11:33.560 --> 00:11:36.620 now yeah i know like january is 00:11:36.620 --> 00:11:42.200 a better blah blah blah yeah yeah but i mean when i started the job that i'm 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:49.240 leaving now um i i started in mid-january i'm pretty sure the interview process 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:56.340 was in december for that position oh okay you know i and so like because I remember. 00:11:57.760 --> 00:12:01.240 Well, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying statistically. 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:04.860 It's not a great time. Like, nobody's in that mindset. 00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:11.340 But then, of course, I've seen other people talk about, like, 00:12:11.400 --> 00:12:15.540 well, that's when you jump in because nobody else is doing it. You know, but whatever. 00:12:15.800 --> 00:12:18.940 I don't think that's, I mean, I'm talking about from the employer side, 00:12:19.060 --> 00:12:22.420 not the workers. If they need a job, they're going to be hunting. 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:23.900 Right. 00:12:23.900 --> 00:12:31.880 You know, but from the other side, it's not the same thing. But anyway, I... 00:12:33.270 --> 00:12:35.590 You know, there was this, you know, you're talking about money, 00:12:35.690 --> 00:12:40.090 but there is this article that I saw related to, and I think it's, 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:43.630 you know, somebody pretty accurately decided, 00:12:43.850 --> 00:12:47.090 you know, we talk about the poverty line being 30 some odd thousand dollars 00:12:47.090 --> 00:12:49.910 for a family of four, which is ridiculous. 00:12:50.590 --> 00:12:55.510 Nobody can live. I mean, you know, I mean, you can't live without public assistance. 00:12:55.850 --> 00:12:59.130 Okay. And those people at that money are getting a lot of public assistance. 00:12:59.410 --> 00:13:04.950 Okay. Right. It's it's it's almost impossible to to live, you know, 00:13:05.190 --> 00:13:08.770 at that at that amount of money, at a family of four. OK. 00:13:09.710 --> 00:13:12.850 Yeah. And they were making this calculation where, you know, 00:13:13.010 --> 00:13:16.190 what the hell should the real poverty line be? OK. 00:13:16.650 --> 00:13:17.790 Right. OK. Yeah. 00:13:17.890 --> 00:13:23.010 And they they they went through the numbers, crunched the numbers for a family of four. 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:26.230 and you know they think 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:28.870 and obviously this also goes back to the 00:13:28.870 --> 00:13:33.270 definition of what poverty is okay all right which also people started arguing 00:13:33.270 --> 00:13:42.190 about this okay that the real number should be something much closer to about 00:13:42.190 --> 00:13:47.050 140 000 for a family of four not not just, 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:54.740 Not 30 some odd thousand, 140,000 for a family of four. 00:13:55.560 --> 00:14:00.660 And by the way, the thing is also defining what the heck poverty is. Okay. All right. 00:14:00.740 --> 00:14:00.880 Right. 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.200 Because it doesn't mean that if you're making 120, you're starved. 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:10.580 But what they're saying for a family of four is that on average, 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.820 and by the way, this is not adjusted for inflation depending on the different 00:14:13.820 --> 00:14:15.920 states as well. Okay. Right. 00:14:15.920 --> 00:14:20.060 I was going to say, cost of living is very different depending on location. 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:26.460 It could be a lot less and more. But on the average of the United States, 00:14:26.580 --> 00:14:34.920 okay, for a family of four to live basically where you're paying child care, your car, 00:14:35.220 --> 00:14:37.640 your taxes, your health care, 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.040 transportation, food. 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:46.840 And the numbers they picked aren't crazy numbers. it adds up to about $136,000 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.660 a year for a family of four. 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:54.220 And this is going in like, you know, think about $23,000 for housing, 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.640 which isn't that expensive a housing if you think about it. 00:14:58.180 --> 00:15:01.840 $1,000 a month on food, also not crazy. 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:06.240 $14,000 on transportation, which you think about four people, right? 00:15:06.620 --> 00:15:09.560 Cars, insurance, gas. 00:15:10.380 --> 00:15:13.260 I mean, that's not even that crazy a number if you think about it. 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:17.960 Health care, also another $1,000 a month when you add your insurance premiums 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.820 and whatnot, blah, blah, blah. You know, that gets in there. 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:27.000 You know, taxes. That family is paying between the 7% Social Security tax, 00:15:27.180 --> 00:15:31.180 Medicare, whatever, and, you know, other taxes or whatever. 00:15:31.520 --> 00:15:35.140 Close to $18,000 in taxes alone. Okay? 00:15:35.660 --> 00:15:42.860 So it starts getting to, you know, it really adds up real quick. Okay? 00:15:43.260 --> 00:15:46.820 Now, some disputed the thing that they added $32,000 for child care in. 00:15:47.970 --> 00:15:52.970 But look, and that some people don't have that expense, I understand how they're saying that. 00:15:53.510 --> 00:15:56.530 You know, you can dispute the number where it's $100,000, $100,000, 00:15:56.650 --> 00:15:57.150 $100,000, $100,000, $100,000. 00:15:57.350 --> 00:16:00.990 $100,000, $100,000. Well, with child care, you either need someone staying home 00:16:00.990 --> 00:16:05.250 doing it who's not making an income or you have to pay a huge amount for it. 00:16:05.590 --> 00:16:09.030 Yeah. And that's the thing because that's a real... 00:16:09.030 --> 00:16:12.510 Or you're doing it illegally and paying somebody under the table at like some... 00:16:12.510 --> 00:16:13.770 But even that's not cheap. 00:16:13.770 --> 00:16:19.450 Listen, if you think about it, if somebody from that family has to cut back 00:16:19.450 --> 00:16:23.890 their working in order to do that, it's costing you $30,000 a year. 00:16:24.210 --> 00:16:25.490 It doesn't matter how you slice it. 00:16:25.750 --> 00:16:26.370 Right. Okay? 00:16:26.710 --> 00:16:30.770 Whether you're paying it out to a child care provider. 00:16:30.930 --> 00:16:36.130 And I remember, you know, daycare for people is $2,000 a month. You know? 00:16:36.750 --> 00:16:40.890 It's not more. That's a real number. It's not more. It's a real number. 00:16:41.870 --> 00:16:44.670 So, you know, it's one of those things. 00:16:44.870 --> 00:16:51.430 So, yeah, I mean, in America, really, saying that the poverty line for a family of four is $33,000, 00:16:51.830 --> 00:16:56.850 I mean, that's basically, I mean, that may mean that they are living in, 00:16:57.030 --> 00:17:00.710 I mean, they're not, they're living, I mean, they're living a really big. 00:17:01.970 --> 00:17:08.350 I mean, they're living a very anxious and stressful life at that number. 00:17:08.510 --> 00:17:12.370 OK, they're not eating well. They're probably skipping meals. 00:17:12.650 --> 00:17:17.370 They're not getting health care, maybe, depending if they're on Medicaid or 00:17:17.370 --> 00:17:20.750 not, depending on the state, because that's another thing with the gaps that 00:17:20.750 --> 00:17:21.850 we got in health care and whatnot. 00:17:22.470 --> 00:17:25.310 So those are the things that I'm thinking about. But the reality is that, 00:17:25.430 --> 00:17:31.570 yeah, I mean, I think that I would be, you know, if I didn't have to go back to work, I'm OK. 00:17:31.970 --> 00:17:34.970 I've said this before. I've had this before. I would be fine. 00:17:35.150 --> 00:17:40.310 Now, I will say I don't have the same level of dread that you have about going back to work. 00:17:41.210 --> 00:17:47.450 I will say that my work environment is significantly better. 00:17:50.150 --> 00:17:58.870 By miles, I don't have the same issue with work that you've had for years. 00:17:59.450 --> 00:18:02.310 but what i'm saying is that i don't really you know there are there are 00:18:02.310 --> 00:18:06.270 these people i'm talking you know you talk to like oh my god they don't know 00:18:06.270 --> 00:18:09.990 what the hell to do themselves if they don't if they don't go to work and i 00:18:09.990 --> 00:18:15.430 mean i i don't i don't know if you've met these people but i have yeah i mean 00:18:15.430 --> 00:18:21.150 they're workaholics they cannot live without work okay i'm. 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:22.610 Like screw that i have. 00:18:22.610 --> 00:18:23.790 So much. 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:31.290 And the last month, of course, has showed it to me perfectly, but I have no... 00:18:31.820 --> 00:18:37.740 dearth of things that i will fill my time with if given the opportunity and 00:18:37.740 --> 00:18:45.380 yeah certainly some of it is relaxing some of it is watching tv some of it is 00:18:45.380 --> 00:18:51.660 unproductive stuff sure but i also have things i want to get done all the. 00:18:51.660 --> 00:18:55.340 Fucking time for god's sakes give me a break okay come on man. 00:18:55.340 --> 00:18:57.640 But you know i i have. 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:01.460 Spent this last week because i you know part of my thing is that i i had You know, 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:07.580 I, I, Manu didn't have school and I did work a little bit of this week, 00:19:07.660 --> 00:19:14.940 but I, I, I didn't, I, I, you know, I had planned to try to work the least amount of time possible. 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:15.520 Right. 00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:18.560 Okay. I did have to take care of a couple of things, but I, I, 00:19:18.800 --> 00:19:22.400 you know, look, we have unlimited PTO and I was like, look, I, 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.320 I gotta, you know, I, I, you know, I did. 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:31.300 If you can't use your unlimited PTO for recovering from surgery, what the fuck good is it? 00:19:31.840 --> 00:19:35.780 Oh, no, no. And look, I took a number of days already. The one thing is that 00:19:35.780 --> 00:19:39.740 I had planned on taking some time off now. 00:19:40.840 --> 00:19:43.960 Here's the one thing about my time. Look, my time, a lot of the times, 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:45.660 it's not even dictated by my boss. 00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:49.040 Not that my boss is looking for me. It's that I attend customers. 00:19:49.360 --> 00:19:53.720 And, you know, I do sales. So the reality is, and there isn't really anybody 00:19:53.720 --> 00:20:00.420 that in some cases can answer, you know, can take care of this stuff for the customer. 00:20:00.620 --> 00:20:03.760 It is what it is. This is one of the things about this type of job. 00:20:04.060 --> 00:20:07.760 So, you know, I would tell people, look, if it was something, 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.920 there was a couple of things that nobody else could take care of. I took care of it. Okay. 00:20:13.340 --> 00:20:16.500 But the other is I just punted. You know, I'm like, whatever. 00:20:16.800 --> 00:20:20.000 You know, I did not kill myself working, but I did. 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:25.580 But this is the thing I'm telling you This is the thing about taking a sales shop, 00:20:26.460 --> 00:20:29.880 If you're on a sales shop And you want to sell properly One thing that's going 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.280 to happen It's not about your boss You know, if a customer's trying to reach 00:20:33.280 --> 00:20:36.160 you And you're not there They get upset, 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.600 Simple as that It's just like if you Listen, if you go to a store You're trying 00:20:40.600 --> 00:20:42.920 to find somebody to help you, right? 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:49.280 And you can't find a person You know, you don't like that So that's the unfortunate 00:20:49.280 --> 00:20:51.920 side effect of Of the job. 00:20:52.020 --> 00:20:55.240 But I did rest a lot. I watched a lot of TV. 00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:59.480 Gosh, I spent a lot of time. Well, the other thing that happened was that I 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:01.620 was thinking of taking Manu to go do something. 00:21:02.020 --> 00:21:06.180 But Manu got sick on Saturday, right as this week started. 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:09.800 And he's been nursing a cold the whole week. 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.840 It got better for Thanksgiving. Substantially better on Wednesday. 00:21:13.840 --> 00:21:20.100 But he had been very stuffed having a lot of hard time getting to sleep because 00:21:20.100 --> 00:21:21.620 he was congested. He was. 00:21:22.060 --> 00:21:27.120 But so so I thought I was going to take him out to do some stuff, but he was sick. 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.380 And so I'm like, well, I guess we're just going to lounge around and play video 00:21:32.380 --> 00:21:36.840 games and not do much of anything and watch TV. 00:21:37.700 --> 00:21:41.620 Well, we did go see a movie. OK, last night because he felt better. 00:21:41.760 --> 00:21:46.700 He felt better. So we went to see you Zootopia 2 is out Yes. 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:50.280 I've heard that Now, I don't know that I've, 00:21:51.310 --> 00:21:52.370 seen the first one. 00:21:52.610 --> 00:21:55.970 I don't know if I saw the first one either. Actually. 00:21:55.970 --> 00:22:02.750 I mean, I can bring to mind like clips, but I don't think it's from watching the movie. 00:22:02.910 --> 00:22:06.170 I think it's just from being around in a universe where Zootopia exists. 00:22:06.370 --> 00:22:10.950 It may well very be possible. I'm on the same boat as you. 00:22:11.090 --> 00:22:14.250 I don't know if I saw the first, but I did see the second one. 00:22:14.350 --> 00:22:16.010 And so I'll add a movie review. 00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:16.870 I'll just go quickly. 00:22:17.590 --> 00:22:18.090 Thumbs up. 00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:19.930 Thumbs up for Zootopia 2. 00:22:20.010 --> 00:22:20.110 Yeah. 00:22:20.370 --> 00:22:20.670 Okay. 00:22:20.810 --> 00:22:23.590 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good movie. Out in theaters. 00:22:23.790 --> 00:22:26.210 Good for the whole family. Not just kids. 00:22:26.250 --> 00:22:29.710 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for the whole family. Yeah, yeah. 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:35.970 My wife, Manu, and I, we all three went. We had a good time at the theater yesterday. Great pact. 00:22:36.550 --> 00:22:40.350 We are probably going to go tomorrow. I have on my to-do list. 00:22:40.590 --> 00:22:44.070 Oh, that I was going to show you. So I have to do that in just a second. 00:22:45.530 --> 00:22:50.870 But we're probably going to go to a second Wicked movie tomorrow. so I have to buy the. 00:22:50.870 --> 00:22:51.790 Ticket to Force a Wicked. 00:22:51.790 --> 00:22:57.490 Moon I am we have talked before how like musicals aren't really your thing they're 00:22:57.490 --> 00:23:00.470 not really my thing either but I enjoyed the first one couldn't watch the second 00:23:00.470 --> 00:23:05.770 one so and we re-watched the first one on at home a few days ago I mentioned that. 00:23:05.770 --> 00:23:11.410 I like musicals like a musical like a musical like you know like a Broadway 00:23:11.410 --> 00:23:16.090 musical in person that I like but not a movie musical so much. 00:23:16.090 --> 00:23:17.390 Right I. 00:23:17.390 --> 00:23:17.590 Don't know what, 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:25.120 Okay, so, like, The first time I went to see a musical, probably the worst way 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:27.260 to see a musical, I will say. 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:28.720 Okay, yes. 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:33.780 Well, the reason I say it's the worst way is that, look, I, this was, 00:23:33.980 --> 00:23:37.640 like, when we were in college, there was this one time that I went to, 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:42.800 like, near, like, I went to, I went to London, okay, for spring break. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.240 Okay, for a couple of days. Well, I went to Madrid, but then, I flew to Madrid, 00:23:46.280 --> 00:23:49.120 but then my girlfriend at the time said, oh wait but we're 00:23:49.120 --> 00:23:52.300 all going to london and i already bought the ticket to go my mom 00:23:52.300 --> 00:23:55.380 said we're all going to london like fuck it's just madrid then 00:23:55.380 --> 00:23:59.120 i gotta check i gotta and i was like i couldn't change the ticket so i could 00:23:59.120 --> 00:24:04.560 fly to london and then go to madrid i have to fly to madrid first fly to london 00:24:04.560 --> 00:24:08.700 and this was like from pittsburgh so i had to fly from pittsburgh to newark 00:24:08.700 --> 00:24:10.380 right pittsburgh to newark newark 00:24:10.380 --> 00:24:15.180 to madrid then madrid to london and that same night that I got there. 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.480 We went to... They had tickets to go to... Of course, they lived in Madrid, 00:24:19.520 --> 00:24:23.220 so they're in the same time zone. I was not, okay? 00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:26.860 They had tickets to go see Cats, okay, that night in the West End. 00:24:26.860 --> 00:24:30.680 And I'd never been to... Hey, one thing you want to do is go to a theater in 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.060 the West End to go see a show, okay? 00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:35.700 You know, so I got there. 00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:42.220 I was very... I had a hard time watching it, even though I liked it. It was Cats. 00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:48.880 Cats is a little odd of musicals. I have seen Cats. 00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:54.000 I will say that it took a substantial amount of coffee that I consumed. 00:24:55.100 --> 00:24:58.460 for me to stay. I mean, it wasn't because the musical was bad. 00:24:58.660 --> 00:25:02.660 It's just that I had spent like 20 plus hours traveling. 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:07.660 I'm jet lagged on my ass and I'm like all of a sudden trying to watch Cats. 00:25:07.820 --> 00:25:10.460 That might not be the best situation to see it in. 00:25:10.600 --> 00:25:14.840 No, I can say like flat out. No, no. 00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:17.920 If you want to watch my recommendations, if you go to London, 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:24.720 you want to watch a show, at a theater at West End, do not go the same day you arrived. 00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:26.530 Okay. 00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:28.970 That's my travel. Okay. 00:25:29.050 --> 00:25:31.910 Now we've on, I want to get your reactions to this thing alive. 00:25:31.910 --> 00:25:35.410 Cause we've talked before about my various to-do list mechanisms. 00:25:35.930 --> 00:25:36.330 Yes. 00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:42.090 And so one of the, one of the things I've done in the last two weeks is take one of the things like a. 00:25:42.090 --> 00:25:43.150 Randomizer or something. 00:25:43.330 --> 00:25:48.730 Yes, exactly. I, yes, I used to do this for a while. 00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:52.970 I did this on a spreadsheet and then I'd move to a different method using dice. 00:25:52.970 --> 00:25:58.730 But like, I revived this one because I sort of missed it. 00:25:58.890 --> 00:26:04.450 The basic premise behind this one, it's mostly for recurring tasks, 00:26:04.750 --> 00:26:07.150 like things that you want to do on a regular basis. 00:26:07.410 --> 00:26:11.070 Like, you know, I mentioned juke potter, like I have that in there as like, 00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:13.930 I want to do something with that every three days. Okay. 00:26:14.590 --> 00:26:21.090 And so the basic premise is that you look at what percentage of the, 00:26:21.210 --> 00:26:25.010 like, if you're supposed to do it every three days, then if it's been three 00:26:25.010 --> 00:26:27.250 days since you have done the thing, 00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:30.030 then it's, it's sort of the baseline. 00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:35.750 Okay. And if it's been half that time, it's half the priority. 00:26:35.750 --> 00:26:39.710 So like if it's been one and a half days, it's half the priority to do that thing. 00:26:39.790 --> 00:26:42.990 Then if it's the three days you said, and if you've let it go six, 00:26:43.150 --> 00:26:44.030 it's double the priority. 00:26:44.830 --> 00:26:47.510 If you let it go nine, it's triple the priority. Okay. 00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:54.650 Et cetera. And, but these priorities don't represent just like the order on a list. 00:26:55.150 --> 00:26:58.350 They go in, each thing comes in with a score. 00:26:58.850 --> 00:27:04.130 And then when you're deciding what to do, you pick based on like the higher 00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:08.050 the score, something has, the greater a probability it has of coming up. 00:27:09.030 --> 00:27:13.670 So, like, the things near the top of the list have a greater priority of coming 00:27:13.670 --> 00:27:15.110 up when you pick a task than lower. 00:27:15.290 --> 00:27:18.150 And I also have a mechanism to do a multiplier that says, like, 00:27:18.190 --> 00:27:21.410 this is every three days, but it's 10 times more important than other stuff. 00:27:21.550 --> 00:27:25.950 So, multiply its score by 10. It's 10 times more likely than it would be otherwise, right? 00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:31.510 So, anyway, here I am sending you the URL to this. 00:27:31.670 --> 00:27:34.830 Look at it on your computer. I have not optimized it for mobile. 00:27:34.870 --> 00:27:38.210 So, it doesn't fit right on a phone. but 00:27:38.210 --> 00:27:42.690 you can bring up this i i've made it the the site itself i'm not giving the 00:27:42.690 --> 00:27:48.090 url on the podcast but i i haven't put any protections uh against seeing it 00:27:48.090 --> 00:27:52.690 i've made protections you have to you have to type in a pin to change anything 00:27:52.690 --> 00:27:55.110 so this is read only to you okay, 00:27:57.090 --> 00:28:04.110 so so first of all describe what you see here and tell the audience well. 00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:09.530 I mean i must say Sam, you made it very graphically pleasing. Okay. All right. 00:28:09.810 --> 00:28:09.870 Thank you. 00:28:10.670 --> 00:28:15.990 So it's this Apple to do priority based task manager, and it's got the task. 00:28:16.110 --> 00:28:18.390 And I guess because of the scoring, right? 00:28:18.670 --> 00:28:28.370 It goes and it puts, you know, it has this bar chart that shows the most, it shows how, 00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:32.160 Because of the scoring, where it is at the top of the list, okay? 00:28:32.360 --> 00:28:32.760 Right, yeah. 00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:36.120 It says how many times, you know, when did you repeat, okay? 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:42.160 And it's got the multiplier, and it shows you the last time that you had an action. What is the N? 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.140 How many times I've done it under this system? 00:28:45.360 --> 00:28:49.820 Oh, so you've done it 18 times, okay? So the thing is that, for example, 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:53.320 at the first one that he's got here, move tasks from simple note to to-do. 00:28:53.600 --> 00:28:55.220 So that's apparently very functioned. 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.760 So you put it on a to-do list. And so this is transferring stuff from my old 00:28:59.760 --> 00:29:00.860 to-do list onto this thing. 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.480 So that one, he's done 18 times. It's like it's got a multiplier of 10. 00:29:04.580 --> 00:29:08.360 The next one that's on here, apparently, that is critical. It's got a multiplier, 00:29:08.560 --> 00:29:12.120 but he has not done it at all. It's buy movie tickets. 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:18.340 Yeah, it's the movie tickets for tomorrow. Right. And you'll notice there's a repeat column. 00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.440 The first one I have on there, do every six hours. 00:29:22.820 --> 00:29:26.360 Move one of those items. And I've done the 18 of them, and it's got a 10x multiplier. 00:29:26.360 --> 00:29:30.160 But the last time I did it was two days, eight hours ago, two days. 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:35.700 So let's see, uh, you help Alex video, which you haven't helped them in six months. 00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:38.470 And you've done it once. It's online. 00:29:40.690 --> 00:29:46.110 The laundry round. Oh, this one isn't that bad. You've done twice. Okay. 00:29:46.810 --> 00:29:51.550 This one you did about a week and three days ago. That's not terrible. Okay. All right. 00:29:52.130 --> 00:29:55.750 Although I would say, considering that you don't actually have a job, 00:29:56.030 --> 00:29:56.970 that's actually miserable. 00:29:57.150 --> 00:30:00.590 Well, and my target is to do this every 12 hours, twice a day. 00:30:00.870 --> 00:30:05.190 Because I have calculated that in order to keep up with the volume of laundry, 00:30:05.350 --> 00:30:07.650 I have to do it twice a day and. 00:30:07.650 --> 00:30:12.590 You've only done it to what god okay snow. 00:30:12.590 --> 00:30:17.690 Laps and look you have neglected dimensions on the left of this with the scoring 00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:21.330 for each one of these like the the move tasks from the simple they're ranked. 00:30:21.330 --> 00:30:24.450 You know like one two three so i'm moving down the rank list. 00:30:24.450 --> 00:30:28.170 You're going down the rank list but the important part is like that that move 00:30:28.170 --> 00:30:31.990 things from my old to-do list has a 15% chance of coming up. 00:30:32.110 --> 00:30:36.510 If I pick a task, the buy movie tickets has an 11.9% chance. 00:30:36.850 --> 00:30:38.830 Help Alex video has a 3.85%. 00:30:38.830 --> 00:30:40.350 Oh, I see. 00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:46.750 So now, now hit the pick a task button, Yvonne, or turn, turn up your volume, turn up your volume. 00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:50.290 Cause the, the sound is kind of flaky, but there are sound effects here. 00:30:50.550 --> 00:30:57.310 Okay. Let me see. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, where's, where's my volume knob? Okay. Here. Okay. 00:30:57.310 --> 00:30:58.530 I heard the blit-twiddle. 00:30:59.650 --> 00:31:05.030 Oh! Oh! Oh, you could... Yeah, well, the thing is, the sound is coming through 00:31:05.030 --> 00:31:06.050 my headphones, unfortunately. 00:31:06.050 --> 00:31:06.070 Oh, wow. 00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:13.700 Hang on, I could do something. Let me see. All right, I'll do this again. Did that come through? 00:31:14.120 --> 00:31:15.080 No. No. 00:31:15.740 --> 00:31:21.500 It does this little cool sound effect, and then it randomly picks it, and it picked the task. 00:31:21.980 --> 00:31:29.920 On this instance, down at number 114, which had a 0.107% chance, 00:31:30.360 --> 00:31:34.540 which is feed and water mic, which was done four days ago. 00:31:35.020 --> 00:31:37.860 Okay, well, that's not bad. You didn't do it four days ago. 00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:41.180 Well, and see, it's got a once a week target. 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:46.620 And so what happens is when you complete a task, because the priority is based 00:31:46.620 --> 00:31:50.180 on how long it's been, it drops all the way to the bottom of the list and then 00:31:50.180 --> 00:31:51.520 slowly works its way back up. 00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:55.160 Sam, can I just say something? This is actually pretty cool. 00:31:55.620 --> 00:31:59.500 I will tell you this. I don't understand why the hell putting this in an app 00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:03.180 and putting it on the App Store, to be honest with you, if you can make a mobile. 00:32:04.540 --> 00:32:05.880 I see four people. 00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:08.840 This is one of my projects that I did. 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.980 It's a nation of procrastinating. Let's be clear about this. 00:32:13.260 --> 00:32:16.620 Okay. You know, this is, this is reality. 00:32:17.040 --> 00:32:21.660 There are, you know, so if you went and you put this, you know, 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.620 we got to come up with a name. Okay. 00:32:24.060 --> 00:32:26.400 You don't think Apple to do is the name? 00:32:26.700 --> 00:32:30.700 Not going to help. Okay. All right. Not going to help. But if we can come up 00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:33.300 with a name, but put this on the app store, this might. 00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:37.600 Well you know like like like you said when you pick a task there's a little 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:44.280 sound effect there's an animation yeah it's it's it's addictive like i have 00:32:44.280 --> 00:32:48.420 sat here yes just hitting the pick a task button over and over and over again. 00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:56.400 I i must admit i did i get quite quite enjoyable it was quite enjoyable to do so. 00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.000 Since since you couldn't hear 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.160 it i will insert later what the sound effect sounds like at this point. 00:33:14.530 --> 00:33:18.890 anyway i'll add that but yeah no look this is the kind of thing like as i'm 00:33:18.890 --> 00:33:22.830 going through things i'm like i built this for myself but i'm like okay how 00:33:22.830 --> 00:33:27.610 could i repackage this how could i make some money off this could i gotta be honest with you other. 00:33:27.610 --> 00:33:32.990 Than just making it mobile and and getting a nicer name this is actually pretty 00:33:32.990 --> 00:33:35.670 good this is really damn cool i gotta be honest with. 00:33:35.670 --> 00:33:37.870 I think. 00:33:37.870 --> 00:33:41.550 That people I think that there are a lot of people out there, 00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:47.960 who probably would enjoy using this. Not me, but a lot of people, though. 00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:54.280 Yes, if anybody listening wants to see this thing, I'm not going to give the 00:33:54.280 --> 00:33:59.820 URL on the podcast, but if you ping me individually, I'll share it so you can 00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:02.580 play with it and hear the little sound. 00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:06.180 The sound is erratic, though. I found if I use it over and over again, 00:34:06.260 --> 00:34:08.300 sometimes it doesn't come out properly. 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.500 I've got on my list, debug why the sound doesn't always work. 00:34:12.220 --> 00:34:14.900 You know, things like that. And you'll notice I've got little, 00:34:14.900 --> 00:34:16.000 like, statistical things. 00:34:16.160 --> 00:34:19.140 Like, there's a line at the one sigma, two sigma, three sigma of, 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.380 like, how often things come up and the percentage, you know. 00:34:24.020 --> 00:34:28.120 And it's color-coded by how late the thing is. Because, of course, 00:34:28.180 --> 00:34:29.980 the default is, like, everything's late. 00:34:30.540 --> 00:34:34.640 Everything's less frequent than I'd like it to be. The ones with the green bars, 00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:38.580 Yvonne, are the ones that aren't yet late. and you have to get down to 131 on 00:34:38.580 --> 00:34:42.960 the list to find the first one that's not late. Yeah, to find any green. 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.920 Yeah, it's all the top 23 here. 00:34:48.020 --> 00:34:51.540 And it's like they're all like, you know, in distress. 00:34:51.540 --> 00:34:56.220 Well, when I first transferred my previous method into here and I did an import 00:34:56.220 --> 00:35:01.260 from another tool I was using on my phone, like the top category, 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:02.360 the color would be black. 00:35:02.420 --> 00:35:06.120 And those were the ones that were more than 100 times past their deadline. 00:35:06.120 --> 00:35:10.880 I did clear out all of those and I've did all, I had like a couple dozen of 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.600 those and I cleared them all out. I took care of those. 00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:19.580 And now, now we're in the, the, the, the blue is the next most latest category. 00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:23.620 The one I have some purple ones at the top, which are less late than blue, 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.180 but they're at the top because they've got a multiplier on them for the importance. So. 00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:31.660 Wait, you haven't showered in a week? 00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:35.560 Yeah, well, it's been a week. 00:35:36.420 --> 00:35:36.960 What? 00:35:37.540 --> 00:35:43.260 I'm not sure it has really been that. There are other ones on here that sometimes those are accurate. 00:35:43.620 --> 00:35:55.380 When I do something that's on the list, for instance, I have on here Feed Sam to remember to eat. 00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:58.580 but very often i eat because 00:35:58.580 --> 00:36:01.860 like if i eat because i rolled eat 00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:04.640 i will remember to put this but if i eat on 00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:10.940 my own you don't market as completely well no i i try to remember to but i often 00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:16.920 forget if i have done a thing on my own as opposed to because i rolled it on 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.000 this list i'm sporadic as to whether i remember to hit the button on here. 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.180 Got it got. 00:36:23.180 --> 00:36:29.200 You know but but But I would not be surprised if the shower thing is accurate. 00:36:29.860 --> 00:36:33.360 But, you know, but I'm starting to feel icky. 00:36:33.660 --> 00:36:39.440 I might take care of that later today. You know, there's a 1% chance it'll come 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.680 up when I roll for shower. So, you know. 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.160 And by the way, this is keeping stats behind the scenes. I haven't built the graphs yet. 00:36:48.380 --> 00:36:52.880 But it's keeping stats on how many tasks I do every day and things like that. 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.140 and what the scores were and all kinds of stuff like that so I can build graphs 00:36:58.140 --> 00:37:00.020 of my productivity and things like that. 00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:03.520 Well, of course, I was going to increase the priority like by 40. 00:37:03.680 --> 00:37:04.540 But you hit the PIN number. 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.200 I don't, yeah, I got to put the, I don't have the PIN number, so. 00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:13.000 Well, this is, you know, my son, of course, 00:37:13.700 --> 00:37:18.320 Very first thing, like I told him, was like, don't mess with this. I know you're going to. 00:37:18.580 --> 00:37:20.080 You started talking with us. 00:37:23.160 --> 00:37:27.700 Within like an hour or two of me setting this up the first time, 00:37:27.860 --> 00:37:34.360 he'd figured out my code and started to add things to this list for me. I'm like, don't do that. 00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:38.560 And like I changed the code. And then he knows the new code. 00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:44.540 He does things like, you know, start screen recording on my device. 00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:47.740 What does he have? He's key logging you? What the fuck? 00:37:48.140 --> 00:37:55.720 One time when I was working at my desk, he placed his phone on top of my microphone on, 00:37:56.370 --> 00:38:01.670 pointed at the keyboard and recorded me putting in the PIN number. 00:38:01.790 --> 00:38:03.430 And I didn't notice it was there. 00:38:03.770 --> 00:38:08.330 He's like Mike Johnson and his kid, for God's sakes. What the hell? 00:38:08.750 --> 00:38:14.750 Another time, he borrowed my phone for a second, started screen recording on 00:38:14.750 --> 00:38:17.730 the phone so that he could capture it as I typed it in that way. 00:38:17.970 --> 00:38:21.150 You know, he knows all the passwords. He is. 00:38:21.390 --> 00:38:24.870 He can be stealthy. yeah and and 00:38:24.870 --> 00:38:30.850 so you know that there there's nothing you know anyway but i've told him that 00:38:30.850 --> 00:38:36.210 if i catch him changing stuff to the list because i know he's got the passwords 00:38:36.210 --> 00:38:41.990 that that he loses like some privileges and attention for me for like 24 hours 00:38:41.990 --> 00:38:44.290 so ah that's discouraged. 00:38:44.290 --> 00:38:45.830 Them from maybe. 00:38:45.830 --> 00:38:51.470 Anyway it's fun and this is the kind of thing like you know and you know i i've 00:38:51.470 --> 00:38:52.810 been able to do something like this. 00:38:53.070 --> 00:38:58.430 And yes, AI assistance helps because I can take the idea and like describe what 00:38:58.430 --> 00:39:00.450 I want and it'll help me actually build it. 00:39:00.590 --> 00:39:06.570 And like, I can iterate on the idea without thinking too much about the mechanisms of how to do it. 00:39:07.030 --> 00:39:10.130 And I can build a little thing. And yes. And of course, yeah, 00:39:10.250 --> 00:39:14.770 every single thing, every single thing I do, I'm like, is there a way to monetize this? 00:39:14.930 --> 00:39:17.050 Can I monetize this? Can I make this the, you know, whatever, 00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:22.010 you know so yes of course and i've got like a big to-do list of like additional 00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:25.950 enhancements and things i want to change and do and like like it wouldn't be 00:39:25.950 --> 00:39:30.870 hard for me at this point like i to to like set up an account mechanism and 00:39:30.870 --> 00:39:34.170 set up a url and be like okay yvonne you think this is cool, 00:39:34.930 --> 00:39:39.030 here here you go set up an account you can have your own blank one give me five 00:39:39.030 --> 00:39:41.030 bucks a month thank you very much you know. 00:39:44.630 --> 00:39:46.990 I think we're going to have to put some ads on it. 00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:52.010 Well, like I said, I added monetization. 00:39:52.330 --> 00:39:58.030 No, ads. You pay for ad free. Yeah, yeah. There you go. 00:40:00.050 --> 00:40:05.030 Since I've spent so much time on this, should I still do a movie or is it too late? 00:40:05.390 --> 00:40:05.950 Do one. 00:40:06.490 --> 00:40:07.090 Do one. 00:40:07.270 --> 00:40:08.550 No, do one. Do one. 00:40:08.950 --> 00:40:15.950 Okay, where did I put the stupid thing? Okay, the next movie on the list is, 00:40:16.430 --> 00:40:20.630 making sure I pick the right one, Blade from 1998. 00:40:22.910 --> 00:40:24.450 1988 Blade? 00:40:25.190 --> 00:40:25.810 1998. 00:40:27.290 --> 00:40:31.670 I don't even know what the fuck. I don't remember this movie. It's Wesley Swipes. 00:40:31.890 --> 00:40:34.230 Swipes. Wesley Snipes. 00:40:34.910 --> 00:40:35.530 Swipes? 00:40:35.810 --> 00:40:39.050 Like Swiper, no Swipey or whatever from Dora. 00:40:41.490 --> 00:40:44.230 I like how it sounds. It's Wesley Swipes. 00:40:46.790 --> 00:40:50.110 Anyway, yes. This is... 00:40:50.110 --> 00:40:54.930 Oh, this is from like that... Yeah. Now, you know, he had that Blaine trilogy, 00:40:55.170 --> 00:40:56.490 which the movies made money. 00:40:56.610 --> 00:41:00.590 But I think also these are the movies that got him into his tax troubles as well. 00:41:01.230 --> 00:41:06.130 Oh, OK. Yeah, I didn't remember that. But it's ringing a little bit of a bell when you say it. 00:41:06.370 --> 00:41:09.170 Yeah, well, you know, he went to jail for not paying. 00:41:09.290 --> 00:41:15.630 You know, he found this this this this brilliant genius tax guy that went and 00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:17.350 told him that he didn't know federal tax. 00:41:17.350 --> 00:41:25.030 and then he started trying to claim massive tax refunds and then he said returns. 00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:28.250 He was basically claiming to be a sovereign citizen or something for a while. 00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:31.610 Oh, nice. That always works out well for people. 00:41:31.770 --> 00:41:37.910 The IRS did not take too kindly on that and he wound up broken in jail. 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:45.630 Excellent. Good job on him, I guess. Anyway, yes, Blade is a Marvel thing. 00:41:45.640 --> 00:41:49.340 thing it came from a marvel comic but 00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:52.480 it's not in the mcu it's not in a marvel cinematic 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.660 universe but it is marvel and he anyway 00:41:56.660 --> 00:42:04.820 this is the first of like you said there's a trilogy um basically it's he's 00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:13.260 a vampire but he's a good vampire that fights bad vampires you know that's I'm. 00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:17.720 Surprised My wife has been all into these vampire shows And things, 00:42:18.700 --> 00:42:22.480 I'm surprised my wife hasn't watched this. I don't think she has. 00:42:22.700 --> 00:42:27.240 Here's the beginning of the plot summary from Wikipedia. In 1967, 00:42:27.260 --> 00:42:32.800 a pregnant woman is attacked by a vampire, causing her to go into premature labor. 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.500 Doctors are able to save the baby, but the woman dies. 00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:41.140 30 years later, the child has become the vampire hunter Blade, 00:42:41.540 --> 00:42:48.900 who is known as the Daywalker, a human vampire hybrid that possesses the supernatural 00:42:48.900 --> 00:42:51.280 abilities of the vampires without any 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.980 of their weaknesses, except for the requirement to consume human blood. 00:42:57.340 --> 00:43:01.880 Blade raids a rave club owned by the vampire Deacon Frost. 00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:05.880 Police take one of the vampires to the hospital where he kills Dr. 00:43:06.040 --> 00:43:10.340 Curtis Webb and feeds on hematologist Karen Jensen and escapes. 00:43:11.040 --> 00:43:16.300 Blade takes Karen to a safe house where she is treated by his old friend Abraham Whistler. 00:43:16.720 --> 00:43:22.540 Whistler explains that he and Blade have been waging a secret war against vampires, 00:43:22.540 --> 00:43:28.360 using weapons based on their elemental weaknesses such as sunlight, silver, and garlic. 00:43:28.820 --> 00:43:35.560 As Karen is now marked by the bite of a vampire, both he and Blade tell her to leave the city. 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.260 Dot, dot, dot. Plot continues. 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.380 There are lots of fights. 00:43:42.680 --> 00:43:46.660 I'll tell you. I'm going to give it a thumbs down. 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.600 I know some people like this kind of movie, but this is one of the ones that's 00:43:51.600 --> 00:43:58.860 like, it's high, it's basically fight scene after fight scene after fight scene, 00:43:59.640 --> 00:44:03.480 lots of violence flight, uh, fight scenes as well. 00:44:04.140 --> 00:44:05.920 Uh, there's, there's lots of 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:12.180 sort of gross out, maybe a little bit of exaggeration, but that it's just, 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:17.760 it's one of the, it's the type of movie that if you are into, 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.760 I just want to watch the fights. 00:44:21.020 --> 00:44:26.600 I don't really care that much about the plot. I don't care that much about the characters. 00:44:26.940 --> 00:44:33.240 I just want to see them go from one fight tableau to another fight tableau to 00:44:33.240 --> 00:44:35.020 another fight tableau and then 00:44:35.020 --> 00:44:41.280 the good guy wins and it's the end of the movie okay oh sorry spoilers, 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.680 you know that that's that's roughly the 00:44:44.680 --> 00:44:47.540 kind of thing that is not the kind of movie i 00:44:47.540 --> 00:44:53.140 really enjoy so thumbs down for me some people love that kind of thing and if 00:44:53.140 --> 00:44:57.780 so maybe you'll like this i don't know but you know i and i'm not saying there 00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:06.300 was no plot and no characters but it just it was very clearly not the priority of the movie, 00:45:06.680 --> 00:45:10.780 you know, and, and so it was what it was. 00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:16.380 So these movies made a lot of money, which is a crazy thing. As far as I can tell. 00:45:17.100 --> 00:45:17.280 Yeah. 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:18.760 I mean, they made three of them. 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:19.900 Yeah. Yeah. 00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:28.200 Let's see. Box office. It dislodged Saving Private Ryan from the box office when it first came out. 00:45:28.820 --> 00:45:31.380 Wow. Think about that. Think about that. 00:45:32.100 --> 00:45:36.120 Let's see. Let's see. What do they have totals here? 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.640 Finished the run with $70 million domestically, $61 million worldwide for a total of $131 million. 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.920 But this was back in 98. 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:47.820 98. 00:45:48.580 --> 00:45:49.200 You know. 00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:54.560 So this is like a $300 million film now. Yeah, yeah. A little over $300 million. 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:55.620 Apparently, though. 00:45:55.640 --> 00:45:59.960 What was the budget? What was the production budget? Usually they put there. 00:45:59.980 --> 00:46:04.240 How much did it cost to make it? You know, you're asking me stuff, 00:46:04.260 --> 00:46:07.620 and let's see, $45 million budget. 00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:14.040 So, well, I guess $45 million to $160 million, I guess that's four times. 00:46:14.120 --> 00:46:14.820 So that's what they expect. 00:46:14.980 --> 00:46:21.040 Okay, sorry, it made money. I thought it was maybe bigger than that given that they made three of them. 00:46:21.580 --> 00:46:26.980 Right oh and what's interesting here is this is one of those like this is pre-MCU 00:46:26.980 --> 00:46:30.280 this is pre-rebirth of Marvel blah blah blah, 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:37.080 Marvel Comics was paid $25,000 for the rights to the character for the movie. 00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:42.020 Oh I'm sure they were flat fee no percentage by the way there is a reason why 00:46:42.020 --> 00:46:44.500 Marvel back then was doing horribly financially. 00:46:45.670 --> 00:46:49.150 They didn't know how to make deals like this? 00:46:49.990 --> 00:46:52.010 No. No, they did not. No. 00:46:53.990 --> 00:46:59.650 Anyway, critical response, Rotten Tomatoes gives it 59%, rating of 6 out of 10. 00:47:00.550 --> 00:47:06.030 The site's critic consensus says, Though some may find the plot a bit lacking, 00:47:06.610 --> 00:47:11.350 Blade's action is fierce, plentiful, and appropriately stylish for a comic book 00:47:11.350 --> 00:47:13.370 adaptation. There you go. 00:47:13.490 --> 00:47:17.750 Okay. Well, there you go, Sam. They basically said, you don't know what you're talking about. 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:22.010 No, they said exactly what they said. Light on plot. Lots of action. 00:47:22.150 --> 00:47:23.410 That's pretty much what I said. 00:47:23.790 --> 00:47:24.930 I'm kidding. I'm kidding. 00:47:25.770 --> 00:47:31.350 Sure you are. Yeah. Whatever. Well, this is how I'll make my living, Yvonne. 00:47:31.510 --> 00:47:33.950 I'm just going to be a full time movie reviewer. 00:47:33.990 --> 00:47:35.230 You're going to be Roger Ebert. 00:47:35.990 --> 00:47:40.230 I'm going to be Roger Ebert. I will go and, you know, people will pay me to 00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:41.470 say thumbs up, thumbs down. 00:47:42.130 --> 00:47:44.790 You know, that's another moneymaker. 00:47:44.790 --> 00:47:45.970 There you go. 00:47:45.970 --> 00:47:47.170 Okay let's keep coming. 00:47:47.170 --> 00:47:48.690 Up with all these money-making schemes. 00:47:48.690 --> 00:47:57.330 Yeah exactly it's you know i mean and and surely any day now i'll win the lottery 00:47:57.330 --> 00:47:59.650 i mean i'd have to buy a ticket but. 00:47:59.650 --> 00:48:00.930 Well uh yeah. 00:48:00.930 --> 00:48:05.710 Yeah but i'm sure if i did i would instantly win that's how it works right. 00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:12.820 It does work very easily, yes. You just have to buy one ticket. One number only. 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.900 Exactly. Exactly. Okay, let's 00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:20.940 go ahead and take that break, and then we'll come back with Newsy stuff. 00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:23.420 Newsy stuff. Now, I'll tell you. 00:48:23.540 --> 00:48:24.780 Not Olivia Newsy. 00:48:25.240 --> 00:48:29.680 Not Olivia Newsy. There was more stuff related to that. 00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.200 Oh, fuck, Jesus Christ. Was there more stuff? My God. 00:48:32.200 --> 00:48:37.540 There was. I didn't even. And it was one of those things where I saw that there 00:48:37.540 --> 00:48:43.140 was more stuff, but I did not have any desire to find out what that additional 00:48:43.140 --> 00:48:45.580 stuff was. So I pretty much ignored it. 00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:49.560 It was bad. It was really bad. 00:48:49.740 --> 00:48:54.000 We didn't even put it on the topic list. But Sam, holy shit, it was bad. 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.380 Since you mentioned it, do you want to give like a one minute summary? 00:48:58.680 --> 00:49:00.780 What's going on here? After we get back. 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:07.740 After we come back. Okay. I will mention that the first break should have been 00:49:07.740 --> 00:49:13.200 a new wiki of the day break, but I was running late to get ready, 00:49:13.340 --> 00:49:14.360 so I didn't prepare that. 00:49:14.500 --> 00:49:16.780 So I'm saving that till next time. 00:49:16.940 --> 00:49:19.600 So there will be a new wiki of the day one next time. 00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.360 But in the meantime, here is a different one. Here you go. 00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:38.680 Alex, I'm the ref. dot com by Alex and Dad gaming videos and more from Alex 00:49:38.680 --> 00:49:43.440 elementary school by day youtube by night alexmzela.com, 00:49:44.700 --> 00:49:50.600 Alex Mzela is A-L-E-X-M-X-E-L-A. 00:50:02.810 --> 00:50:04.950 Okay, we're back. So, Nuzzy. 00:50:05.470 --> 00:50:13.270 Okay, the Nuzzy story that I saw come out this week was that Nuzzy went and 00:50:13.270 --> 00:50:17.430 had tried to help RFK Jr. kill the bear story. 00:50:17.950 --> 00:50:22.490 That, you know, that he took a dead bear and put it in Central Park. 00:50:22.630 --> 00:50:23.270 Okay, yes. 00:50:23.330 --> 00:50:28.430 That she had actually worked with him and plotted with him to figure out how to kill the story. 00:50:28.770 --> 00:50:29.710 Oh, excellent. 00:50:30.370 --> 00:50:33.210 So much for her being such a journalist. 00:50:33.530 --> 00:50:39.530 Is that all? I heard there were more affairs with more people and that she was... 00:50:39.530 --> 00:50:42.830 Well, that was... Well, I'm saying that was the last one. The other one... 00:50:42.830 --> 00:50:45.490 Well, she had been banging Mark Sanford. Okay. 00:50:45.870 --> 00:50:48.090 All right. So that one... 00:50:48.090 --> 00:50:50.690 I don't know if we talked about that. Was a Florida politician? Am I remembering right? 00:50:51.330 --> 00:50:52.530 I didn't see the Florida one. 00:50:52.530 --> 00:50:54.090 South Carolina? Where was he? Where was he? 00:50:54.090 --> 00:50:57.770 Well, that's Mark Sanford. South Carolina. He was the governor of South Carolina. 00:50:58.310 --> 00:51:00.370 He was the guy that went on the Appalachian Trail. 00:51:01.570 --> 00:51:07.150 Oh, right. Was it her that she was going on the Appalachian Trail with? 00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:11.110 No. She was going. No, that was in Argentina. 00:51:11.570 --> 00:51:15.150 He flew to Argentina. He had this girlfriend in Argentina. Okay? 00:51:15.290 --> 00:51:17.610 That it was his side chick back then. 00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:22.250 That, I think, ended at some point. Okay? He got divorced. 00:51:22.470 --> 00:51:26.930 And then when he was running for president in 2020, He was running for president in 2020. 00:51:27.770 --> 00:51:33.810 Olivia Nazeep, while covering him, had chased after him, chased after him, and. 00:51:35.120 --> 00:51:35.480 Okay. 00:51:36.120 --> 00:51:36.700 All right. 00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:41.860 Well, how can you properly do a story on somebody who's running for president 00:51:41.860 --> 00:51:43.720 if you have not had sex on them, Yvonne? 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:48.380 Well, apparently that's one thing that soured her on Biden because it seems 00:51:48.380 --> 00:51:51.760 like she thought that Biden was, you know, Biden was like— He wouldn't have sex with her? 00:51:54.180 --> 00:51:58.980 Apparently, you know, based on some stuff, it seems kind of like that was the 00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:02.760 vibe I got from some of the coverage. 00:52:03.700 --> 00:52:05.300 Okay. Interesting. 00:52:06.060 --> 00:52:10.320 So, you know, there you go. Makes me up my respect for Joe Biden, 00:52:10.340 --> 00:52:12.260 which is already high, even way higher. 00:52:14.080 --> 00:52:16.300 I'm left speechless. I don't know. 00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:24.620 There was a story where she was writing and waxing poetic about Trump's energy and virility. 00:52:25.900 --> 00:52:26.340 Okay. 00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:32.540 And then at the same time, shitting on Biden. What, based on the track record 00:52:32.540 --> 00:52:36.640 we are seeing right now, what the fuck can I surmise? 00:52:39.240 --> 00:52:39.780 I'm done. 00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:40.700 What are you wanting me to tell you? 00:52:40.740 --> 00:52:46.160 I don't know. And of course, this flurry of publicity is because, 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.580 of course, she's just put out a new book where she's talked about a bunch of this stuff. 00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:54.120 Oh my God. But then her ex is bringing out more. 00:52:54.120 --> 00:52:55.980 Stuff that she has not brought up herself. 00:52:55.980 --> 00:52:59.420 Correct and i know he posted something yeah 00:52:59.420 --> 00:53:02.820 actually he's the one that shared the story about her 00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.940 working with rfk jr to try to bury 00:53:05.940 --> 00:53:09.460 the the cub story okay and 00:53:09.460 --> 00:53:14.180 this whole thing goes back and you know she's employed right now as a fucking 00:53:14.180 --> 00:53:21.880 reporter still somewhere and i'm just like how the fuck i i you know i say that 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:27.240 and i realize that a network like Fox News has people like Gutfeld and Jesse Waters, 00:53:28.200 --> 00:53:29.580 and, you know, 00:53:30.200 --> 00:53:33.700 Megyn Kelly still has a job somehow. 00:53:35.020 --> 00:53:37.880 And so, yeah, I guess, you know. 00:53:38.900 --> 00:53:41.340 Okay, so I think here. 00:53:41.580 --> 00:53:47.560 Listen, this is, by the way, I think being covered by a lot of people from the 00:53:47.560 --> 00:53:51.860 sensibility of what we thought reporters should be. 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:58.880 Some of us oldsters still 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:13.480 have this idealized vision of the folks who are after the truth and impartial and this and that. 00:54:13.860 --> 00:54:20.440 Impartial in a truth-seeking way, not impartial in a both-sides sort of way, etc. 00:54:20.780 --> 00:54:21.000 Right. 00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:26.240 Okay. Anyway, Nuzzy was not going to be your main topic, was it? 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.200 What were you really going to talk about this second? 00:54:28.200 --> 00:54:32.100 No, no, no. What are we going to... Well, fuck, I already... 00:54:32.100 --> 00:54:35.840 Jeez, I already picked something. You and her short, you go pick something. 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.160 You can keep talking about... Oh, okay, yeah. I thought you were going to say 00:54:39.160 --> 00:54:41.240 you wanted to talk about Nuzzy for another 20 minutes. 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.200 No, I mean... What are you... 00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:48.960 Look, I don't want to talk about Nuzzy, but... 00:54:50.270 --> 00:54:55.150 You know, I shared a clip on Slack today. You talk about people and this entire, 00:54:55.150 --> 00:54:58.850 I mean, reality that we live right now is going to say an issue. 00:54:59.030 --> 00:55:03.650 It's not an issue would be maybe something that we can find a solution for. 00:55:03.950 --> 00:55:09.930 The reality, this is our reality right now, where you get an asshole like Tucker 00:55:09.930 --> 00:55:18.670 Carlson going and basically, I mean, that Pierce Morgan in an interview comes out. 00:55:18.670 --> 00:55:27.550 as the voice of reason on the Nazi regime where Tucker is questioning that, 00:55:28.090 --> 00:55:33.850 oh, you guys just chose to go to war against the Germans because Hitler wasn't 00:55:33.850 --> 00:55:40.830 planning on invading Great Britain, even though it's well documented that he planned on it. 00:55:41.350 --> 00:55:47.150 And he wanted to. Oh, because you just could have made a deal. I'm like, a deal? 00:55:47.910 --> 00:55:53.130 The Russians made a deal with him. Like what? Like he didn't go and say, fuck you on your deal. 00:55:54.110 --> 00:55:58.190 By the way, Neville Chamberlain made a number of deals with him. And he also. 00:55:58.690 --> 00:56:01.690 And he's remembered fondly by history because of it. 00:56:02.510 --> 00:56:06.230 Exactly. Because he was a naive idiot that went. 00:56:06.370 --> 00:56:10.970 And like it was Churchill that decided to draw a line in the sand and say, fuck, fuck this shit. 00:56:10.970 --> 00:56:15.110 And Tucker Carlson is doing all this entire remissionist history on his show 00:56:15.110 --> 00:56:18.410 that Pierce Morgan had to repeatedly correct him on like, you know, 00:56:18.570 --> 00:56:21.830 we, I mean, Hitler wanted to invade Great Britain. 00:56:22.130 --> 00:56:26.630 I mean, you know, I mean, oh, you chose to go to war against him. 00:56:27.410 --> 00:56:28.770 I mean, does he forget the Blitz? 00:56:29.860 --> 00:56:31.180 Anybody remember the Blitz? 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:33.880 Well, very few. 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:39.020 I'm not talking about Carlson. Very few, obviously. Yeah, this is a big problem 00:56:39.020 --> 00:56:40.640 that we've got right now. 00:56:41.140 --> 00:56:44.420 Just as an aside, because we always do asides, 00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:50.940 one of the things that I've heard people mention just on the cyclicality of 00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:59.440 history is often simply because the terrible events of the past that right after they happen, 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.120 Everybody's like, we're never going to let this happen again. 00:57:02.420 --> 00:57:07.520 We're going to, you know, we're going to restructure how we do things specifically 00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:09.760 to avoid this bad thing happening. 00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:10.160 Yeah. 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:17.960 What always happens is a certain number of years later, let's say 60 to 80 years later. 00:57:18.300 --> 00:57:19.640 Forget about the whole thing. 00:57:19.640 --> 00:57:25.340 The people who actually remember it, like with their own live memories, 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.900 as opposed to reading about it in a book or hearing about it from their parents, 00:57:29.620 --> 00:57:36.520 die off and are, and the people who no longer remember it are now in charge 00:57:36.520 --> 00:57:42.300 and immediately make the exact same mistakes that people made 80 years previously. 00:57:43.140 --> 00:57:43.340 Yes. 00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.840 And guess where we are right now? 00:57:48.380 --> 00:57:53.260 I'm just, you know But you know that the bigger problem is, right? 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.740 That in Tucker Carlson's case Yes. 00:57:55.900 --> 00:57:58.220 Okay We're talking about Tucker, I forgot Go ahead. 00:57:58.220 --> 00:58:03.800 Is that he's a grifter? Yes So you don't really know what the fuck he really believes, 00:58:05.270 --> 00:58:10.270 I do believe that he is a racist. I mean, that part, I'm sure. 00:58:10.650 --> 00:58:11.310 I'm sure. 00:58:11.450 --> 00:58:17.070 He keeps talking about how diversity to him is awful. 00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:19.590 Who wants to live in a diverse place? 00:58:19.870 --> 00:58:25.030 Who wants this, you know, I want to be in a place where everybody around me is white. 00:58:25.470 --> 00:58:26.590 Yes. Yep. 00:58:27.490 --> 00:58:29.910 And how it's so bad to live with people. 00:58:30.030 --> 00:58:32.870 Was it him or was it somebody in the administration this week? 00:58:32.870 --> 00:58:36.830 It might have been Miller or somebody, completely unsurprising, 00:58:37.610 --> 00:58:43.690 you know, talking about how certain populations are fundamentally unassimilizable 00:58:43.690 --> 00:58:48.930 and so therefore should not be let in simply because of that, et cetera. 00:58:49.190 --> 00:58:54.510 Sounds like something Miller or, it sounds like something either of them would say. 00:58:54.510 --> 00:58:59.530 Because the whole notion is, you know, you don't want to let people in who are 00:58:59.530 --> 00:59:07.410 going to change the culture in any way, you know, because you want to retain that purity and, 00:59:07.750 --> 00:59:14.150 you know, like you were saying, whereas, of course, like folks like us are like, 00:59:14.310 --> 00:59:16.030 no, no, that's the strength. 00:59:16.030 --> 00:59:18.050 Of course you want to change the culture. 00:59:18.290 --> 00:59:25.390 You want to have a melding where you get the best of all the cultures together 00:59:25.390 --> 00:59:29.770 and you learn from them and they learn from you. 00:59:29.990 --> 00:59:34.310 And together you have something better that was better than what either of you had before or whatever. 00:59:34.610 --> 00:59:39.790 You know one phrase that we used to hear very quickly. 00:59:40.910 --> 00:59:44.430 We used to hear frequently. Yeah. You remember that? 00:59:44.830 --> 00:59:45.310 Oh, yeah. 00:59:46.030 --> 00:59:51.490 Have we said that all the time? And now it seems that people avoid saying it like it's a bad thing? 00:59:51.950 --> 00:59:59.330 Well, and honestly, there's, yeah, there are multiple criticisms of the melting pot. 01:00:00.510 --> 01:00:07.750 One is from folks like Tucker Carlson and Miller who are like, 01:00:07.910 --> 01:00:10.390 we don't want our culture tainted. 01:00:10.910 --> 01:00:14.270 by the other culture through this melting pot process. 01:00:15.030 --> 01:00:20.290 But then there's also folks who are like, well, you don't want people to give 01:00:20.290 --> 01:00:24.350 up their identities either. You don't want people to be lost in assimilation 01:00:24.350 --> 01:00:27.730 and not, you know, they come from country X. 01:00:28.030 --> 01:00:33.870 The melting pot is not assimilation, okay? Because assimilation is like the Borg, okay? All right? 01:00:34.430 --> 01:00:37.210 I mean, it's all I think about, okay? 01:00:37.270 --> 01:00:40.590 Well, people have said there's another model It's more like a plum pudding or 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:44.710 something where, you know, it's all mixed together, but still everything retains 01:00:44.710 --> 01:00:45.690 its additional identity. 01:00:45.950 --> 01:00:53.090 I think the actual, like from my point of view, the ideal is something where 01:00:53.090 --> 01:00:57.370 you do mix everything together and you come up with a hybrid that is better 01:00:57.370 --> 01:00:58.630 than any of the ingredients. 01:00:58.630 --> 01:00:59.390 Exactly. 01:00:59.970 --> 01:01:07.810 I can understand, however, how if you are in sort of a marginalized culture 01:01:07.810 --> 01:01:14.090 where retaining stuff from that culture becomes more important to you. 01:01:14.090 --> 01:01:21.010 Look, I'm Puerto Rican, okay? Well, you know, I live in the society where I 01:01:21.010 --> 01:01:25.410 speak a language that is not the native language of my island, 01:01:25.410 --> 01:01:28.990 but I speak it better than my native language. 01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:35.090 That's a reality. Maybe not that much better, but my... 01:01:37.750 --> 01:01:43.530 You know, my language skills in English are, because I use it more, 01:01:44.210 --> 01:01:47.070 that's the main reason, definitely better than my Spanish ones, 01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:49.610 even though my Spanish ones are still pretty good. 01:01:49.670 --> 01:01:52.210 You're not saying you're illiterate in Spanish. 01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:57.010 Not even close. I mean, I write, I do, I do business in Spanish. 01:01:57.270 --> 01:02:04.610 But what I'm saying is that the reality is that my English, because of various reasons, is better. 01:02:04.910 --> 01:02:09.010 Okay? and so but i 01:02:09.010 --> 01:02:12.210 still use my spanish every day 01:02:12.210 --> 01:02:15.090 i cook with seasonings that 01:02:15.090 --> 01:02:21.770 we use back home every day but i'll cook a steak using them for example you 01:02:21.770 --> 01:02:28.690 know i don't you know and i think that many of us from puerto rico do a job 01:02:28.690 --> 01:02:34.050 of enjoying a lot of the things that our culture has, like it's music, 01:02:34.490 --> 01:02:41.090 like it's family activities, like the food and so forth, while living in the 01:02:41.090 --> 01:02:45.190 United States, fully integrated into what society has been for many decades. 01:02:46.210 --> 01:02:57.510 And it's one thing I know that Cubans, for example, that moved to Miami back when exiled from Fidel, 01:02:57.870 --> 01:03:04.050 because of the racism that persisted back then, 01:03:04.450 --> 01:03:11.730 many of that generation of Cubans that got brought up in Miami were dissuaded from learning Spanish, 01:03:12.430 --> 01:03:19.250 that you've got a generation of Cubans that many of them cannot speak Spanish 01:03:19.250 --> 01:03:21.410 very well, or don't speak it at all. 01:03:21.690 --> 01:03:24.270 And it was their fear of... 01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:29.060 Of them being marginalized in society okay 01:03:29.060 --> 01:03:31.960 the parents were worried about it because they were being 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.860 marginalized and so they they had 01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:37.680 in many ways pushed away some of that culture 01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:45.240 i i think that that changed i don't i don't think that changed later okay with 01:03:45.240 --> 01:03:51.940 the later generations but the reality but that was a reality i think my nieces 01:03:51.940 --> 01:03:55.320 and nephews their spanish is not as good as, 01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:58.740 as ours that were brought up in puerto rico but 01:03:58.740 --> 01:04:01.380 they still speak it and they still like a lot 01:04:01.380 --> 01:04:04.120 of the things about our our culture and do it 01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:06.960 but but in the end what they have as a 01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:11.160 culture it's not an assimilation it's not what we had is something completely 01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:17.980 different and i and i think that's perfectly fine because it's it you know i 01:04:17.980 --> 01:04:23.160 i sometimes we want to preserve everything like It's a museum where culture 01:04:23.160 --> 01:04:26.140 is an ever evolving thing, you know? 01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:35.380 Well, and this is actually one of the core things that folks like Stephen Miller just can't accept. 01:04:35.700 --> 01:04:41.320 They do want to freeze it in time. They believe like these things were right 01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:44.760 and good and the way things should be and they should be like that forever. 01:04:45.300 --> 01:04:52.220 as opposed to, yeah, no, like I don't expect that my values are the same as 01:04:52.220 --> 01:04:55.200 my grandparents. And I don't expect that if I have grandkids, 01:04:55.380 --> 01:04:57.100 that their values will be the same as mine. 01:04:57.340 --> 01:05:00.960 Things evolve, things change, and that's not a bad thing, you know? 01:05:01.340 --> 01:05:08.140 Yeah. And, but, but these people, the whole make America great again, right? 01:05:08.860 --> 01:05:09.040 Yeah. 01:05:09.260 --> 01:05:11.340 So turn back the clock to, I don't know. 01:05:12.300 --> 01:05:15.520 Well, at first, people were always thinking that Trump meant the 1950s. 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.420 He's later pretty much made it clear that he's really thinking 1890s. 01:05:19.520 --> 01:05:20.800 That's where he'd like to go back to. 01:05:21.820 --> 01:05:22.780 Robert Barron's. 01:05:23.180 --> 01:05:23.660 Exactly. 01:05:24.660 --> 01:05:29.120 Yeah, that was the big economic oligarchy in America. 01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:34.460 Basically, you know, the great segregation. Women had no rights. 01:05:35.080 --> 01:05:40.420 I can't remember who the heck it was. it was, they were trying to pull, 01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:42.940 no president would have ever done something. 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.620 And I can't remember the exact thing that Trump, that was the calling, 01:05:45.820 --> 01:05:49.260 like, you know, and somebody, well, Andrew Jackson would have done it. 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:53.880 And I'm like, look, the fact that you have to go back to a president so far 01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.780 back that at that time, there's something related to women that not even, 01:05:58.020 --> 01:06:01.900 you know, you have to pull for a time that women couldn't even own property 01:06:01.900 --> 01:06:03.140 legally, for God's sakes, 01:06:03.620 --> 01:06:10.300 and blacks are slaves, that shows you how retrograde that thought is. 01:06:10.700 --> 01:06:11.240 Right. 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:16.200 If you have to go back that far, then something's fucked up about it. 01:06:16.520 --> 01:06:22.160 And yeah, he wants to go back to the time where women didn't vote. Yeah. At times. 01:06:22.740 --> 01:06:28.740 And Donald Trump hasn't specifically said that one, but certain folks on the sort of Magali. Yeah. 01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:37.360 Okay but anyway we're talking about the the reality of the current journalist 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:43.520 uh you know profession yeah and what the opinions in general people are our 01:06:43.520 --> 01:06:45.860 our opinions on journalism are seen as. 01:06:47.140 --> 01:06:55.240 Yes. Well, and even I would say, like, I don't think the sort of idealized Edward R. 01:06:55.380 --> 01:07:01.520 Murrow, Walter Cronkite thing is necessarily exactly the right model to go back to either. 01:07:02.020 --> 01:07:06.400 I had mentioned truth seekers rather than both sides. 01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.460 I think there's a big problem with the sort of both sides view of journalism these days. 01:07:12.460 --> 01:07:19.080 I think having, knowing, I think trying to pretend journalists don't have an 01:07:19.080 --> 01:07:22.140 opinion isn't necessarily helpful, but I think. 01:07:22.140 --> 01:07:24.340 But you've got to separate two things. 01:07:24.460 --> 01:07:24.900 You've got to separate. 01:07:24.900 --> 01:07:28.220 One is I have an opinion. It's like you being a scientist, right? 01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:31.780 You've got to separate the advocacy from fact-finding. 01:07:32.680 --> 01:07:36.220 Exactly. It's the same as doing a scientific experiment. 01:07:36.540 --> 01:07:39.420 You could think that something is going to happen with a science experiment, 01:07:39.420 --> 01:07:44.460 but when you're doing the experiment, And if the testing shows you something 01:07:44.460 --> 01:07:48.920 different, you have to go and accept, oh, shit, I thought this was going to 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:50.460 happen, but that's not what happened. 01:07:50.620 --> 01:07:56.320 But at the same time, like, I keep... There was a quote, and I don't know who said it. 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.620 It's gone around many times since then, of, like, it... 01:08:00.220 --> 01:08:07.400 it's comparing news people to, to weather people, you know, where if you don't 01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:11.420 report like, Hey, this one guy says it's, it's going to be sunny. 01:08:11.560 --> 01:08:13.600 And this one guy says it's going to be rain. 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:19.080 If you are a good reporter, you go outside and check yourself and you report 01:08:19.080 --> 01:08:22.260 what you see. Is it raining? Is it not raining? 01:08:22.620 --> 01:08:28.520 You know, like it's not everything. There are things that are sort of purely 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.000 matters of opinion and blah, blah, blah. 01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:35.140 And then, okay, you can present like this person thinks this and this person 01:08:35.140 --> 01:08:36.180 thinks that and blah, blah, blah. 01:08:36.460 --> 01:08:42.440 But there are many, many things where the objective truth is actually knowable. 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:50.300 And in that case, it is the responsibility of a good journalist to seek out 01:08:50.300 --> 01:08:55.620 that truth and report on it and not just report on what the other people are 01:08:55.620 --> 01:08:56.700 saying about each other. 01:08:57.320 --> 01:09:00.420 You know, and, and I think that there's, 01:09:01.210 --> 01:09:04.530 There's hesitancy to do that in a lot of places. Also, 01:09:04.690 --> 01:09:10.990 I think that the fact that at this point, there's a huge concentration of media 01:09:10.990 --> 01:09:16.590 ownership in large corporations makes it more difficult as well because there's not a lot of separation. 01:09:17.530 --> 01:09:20.370 Sam, Sam, I mean, that was true. 01:09:20.590 --> 01:09:25.110 I'm sorry, but in history, that's been the case of large media. 01:09:25.630 --> 01:09:28.410 I mean, actually, wait, forget about large media. In the past, 01:09:28.610 --> 01:09:30.130 that's the only media that existed. 01:09:30.130 --> 01:09:37.470 No, but there's a couple differences, I think, that are – it's not just that 01:09:37.470 --> 01:09:38.310 it's corporate ownership. 01:09:38.490 --> 01:09:42.430 It's what are the incentives of the corporate ownership right now, right? 01:09:42.910 --> 01:09:44.630 But – oh, my God, Sam. 01:09:44.630 --> 01:09:48.010 We had like Hearst and all of those folks. 01:09:48.150 --> 01:09:52.030 Like they had a clear agenda and they were pushing it and they were actually 01:09:52.030 --> 01:09:53.410 – they were transparent about it. 01:09:53.590 --> 01:09:56.810 They were using the media that they owned. 01:09:56.810 --> 01:10:00.550 Is Rupert Murdoch not transparent about what he's trying to push? 01:10:00.950 --> 01:10:04.410 Give me a fucking break! No, I'm not even talking about Fox. 01:10:04.590 --> 01:10:09.890 I'm talking... The issue I feel like with the Comcasts of the world and folks 01:10:09.890 --> 01:10:14.790 like that that own stuff is that they are relatively... 01:10:17.290 --> 01:10:24.250 risk averse in some of these areas where they're that they do own you know of course. 01:10:24.250 --> 01:10:30.570 Msnbc just got sold sam sam yes that's always been the case look i still remember 01:10:30.570 --> 01:10:34.690 there there's this movie about this guy that whistleblower on tobacco industry 01:10:34.690 --> 01:10:38.790 jeffrey jeffrey wygand what the fuck was the name i don't know if you you you 01:10:38.790 --> 01:10:41.690 i don't know if you've seen that movie it's a great movie by the way. 01:10:42.970 --> 01:10:44.830 I'm not saying any of this is new. 01:10:45.850 --> 01:10:50.130 Wait, hang on. Let me bring up the name of the movie. The Insider. 01:10:51.550 --> 01:10:56.090 I'll just mention, as I was going to Wikipedia to look up the book, 01:10:56.190 --> 01:11:02.350 to take a screenshot, to add it to my list, what was already on my Wikipedia app on my phone, 01:11:04.430 --> 01:11:06.250 was Bozo Goes to College. 01:11:06.670 --> 01:11:07.770 Oh, excellent! 01:11:08.430 --> 01:11:08.830 Great! 01:11:09.690 --> 01:11:11.190 You mean Bonzo, not Bonzo. 01:11:11.410 --> 01:11:13.490 Bonzo. Bonzo goes to college. 01:11:13.670 --> 01:11:16.050 That would have been weird. That would have been... 01:11:16.050 --> 01:11:21.890 It's the sequel to Bedtime for Bonzo, which, of course, starred Ronald Reagan. 01:11:22.090 --> 01:11:22.690 Ronald Reagan. 01:11:23.310 --> 01:11:26.850 So I add both these to my list and then look up the insider. Go ahead. 01:11:27.450 --> 01:11:30.010 Okay. I don't... Did you ever watch that movie? 01:11:30.850 --> 01:11:33.790 It's not ringing a bell. I'm bringing it up right now. 01:11:34.670 --> 01:11:35.070 Okay. 01:11:35.230 --> 01:11:36.710 I don't think so. I don't think so. 01:11:36.790 --> 01:11:39.750 And it was based on a true story. related to 01:11:39.750 --> 01:11:43.570 the whistleblowing related to the big tobacco 01:11:43.570 --> 01:11:47.010 and them hiding up the fact that they knew that 01:11:47.010 --> 01:11:50.190 nicotine was addictive that there was a lot of scientific research 01:11:50.190 --> 01:11:53.170 and that they were actually manipulating the nicotine content in 01:11:53.170 --> 01:11:57.050 cigarettes in order to increase addiction and how this guy that was a chief 01:11:57.050 --> 01:12:03.010 scientist for it was philip morris yeah okay the story all sounds familiar it 01:12:03.010 --> 01:12:07.130 wanted to blow the whistle because there was a testimony well it's a story because 01:12:07.130 --> 01:12:11.170 there was articles in several newspapers regarding this. 01:12:11.250 --> 01:12:13.110 He actually worked for Brown and Williamson tobacco. 01:12:14.230 --> 01:12:21.710 How he saw the tobacco executives go and testify in Congress saying that they 01:12:21.710 --> 01:12:23.970 said that they didn't know nicotine was addictive. 01:12:24.450 --> 01:12:24.630 Right. 01:12:24.630 --> 01:12:27.790 And that they said it over and over. When, by the way, internally, 01:12:27.830 --> 01:12:34.990 they discussed that tobacco was a nicotine delivery device, okay? 01:12:35.490 --> 01:12:37.850 And that they knew that directly, okay? 01:12:38.950 --> 01:12:42.830 And one of the things was that this is a story that's supposed to go out in 60 minutes. 01:12:43.630 --> 01:12:51.510 and there was a big blow up at 60 minutes because cbs was in the process of being sold, 01:12:52.490 --> 01:12:58.950 and cbs corporate went and killed the story okay because they said that brown 01:12:58.950 --> 01:13:03.090 and williamson came and threatened to sue them and they could sue them out of 01:13:03.090 --> 01:13:04.650 existence and blah blah blah, 01:13:05.230 --> 01:13:09.950 and all of a sudden as the story was about to go on air they forced they tried 01:13:09.950 --> 01:13:14.710 to force the producer to change the story near the last minute lowell bergman 01:13:14.710 --> 01:13:20.750 was the producer like well known about this he refused then they aired a story 01:13:20.750 --> 01:13:23.390 which didn't have all the explosive testimony, 01:13:24.570 --> 01:13:28.150 then lowell bergman leaked most of the stuff i think it was to the wall street 01:13:28.150 --> 01:13:31.690 journal or i can't remember who it was and then the story came out and then 01:13:31.690 --> 01:13:35.890 all blew up and then 60 minutes had to actually publish the story. 01:13:36.850 --> 01:13:43.390 And by the way, this is what led to the, remember the massive tobacco settlement that we got back then. 01:13:43.450 --> 01:13:43.870 Yeah, I remember. 01:13:44.130 --> 01:13:52.970 That changed advertising, that changed everything. This is the igniter of that, okay? 01:13:52.970 --> 01:13:56.830 So if you haven't watched this movie, which I know fictionalizes some parts 01:13:56.830 --> 01:14:01.410 of it, and there was some arguing by some people around now about it, 01:14:01.410 --> 01:14:05.310 But it was very close to what the fuck happened. Okay. All right. In the story. 01:14:06.430 --> 01:14:15.630 But this was the 90s. CBS executives were telling 60 Minutes to kill a story, 01:14:15.750 --> 01:14:18.090 to fucking edit it because of, 01:14:19.160 --> 01:14:25.740 interest that had to do with money just the same shit as when cbs was being sold now, 01:14:26.440 --> 01:14:29.200 and this is the thing that when people go and they 01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:32.140 tell me oh my god look what's happening to cbs like 01:14:32.140 --> 01:14:34.940 this never happened before oh my guys are you out 01:14:34.940 --> 01:14:38.080 of your fucking just to be clear i i am not saying 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:44.680 any of this is new i am saying that it literally happened the last time they 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:53.660 were being sold almost verbatim and people have such short fucking memories 01:14:53.660 --> 01:14:57.080 that they forget yeah yeah yeah like. 01:14:58.210 --> 01:15:05.190 No, all I'm saying is I think the incentive structure in not just big corporate, 01:15:05.330 --> 01:15:12.150 but any for-profit media just doesn't necessarily always align with truth. 01:15:12.390 --> 01:15:15.430 Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. You know? 01:15:16.310 --> 01:15:21.490 But here's my one thing. Money and big media has always been an issue. 01:15:21.630 --> 01:15:25.230 It's always been plus, always slanted coverage in a certain way, one way or another. 01:15:25.390 --> 01:15:32.210 That's just been a reality. However, I do say that we are in the era and we have an issue. 01:15:32.910 --> 01:15:37.730 You know, the thing is that you could look at this from a we're better or worse 01:15:37.730 --> 01:15:40.630 off in a certain way with this. 01:15:40.810 --> 01:15:47.210 OK, because back then you couldn't do independent media the way it's being done 01:15:47.210 --> 01:15:52.570 now that is as pervasive and is and is heard by as many people as it is right now. 01:15:52.570 --> 01:15:57.390 However, the problem is that there is so much also independent media, 01:15:57.470 --> 01:15:59.670 and so many of them are peddling lies. 01:16:00.010 --> 01:16:05.230 Right. Well, I mean, this gets us to the whole information bubble thing. 01:16:05.530 --> 01:16:09.850 Whatever the hell corporate media had as a defect compared to this environment 01:16:09.850 --> 01:16:13.130 where I got a Tucker Carlson out there basically just saying, 01:16:13.230 --> 01:16:17.670 oh, no, UK, you got into a war because you wanted to. 01:16:18.150 --> 01:16:22.430 Well, right. I mean, this goes into the whole, there's so much media, 01:16:22.430 --> 01:16:25.890 so available in so different ways, and the barrier to entry is so low. 01:16:26.010 --> 01:16:29.030 I mean, Hal, we've been doing a podcast for nearly 20 years. 01:16:29.690 --> 01:16:36.110 Exactly right. You know, that people select what they listen to and what viewpoints 01:16:36.110 --> 01:16:39.670 they want to hear, as opposed to having sort of that. 01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.480 Universal TV and watching Dan Rather. 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.760 Yeah. Or Walter Cronkite or Edward R. 01:16:46.860 --> 01:16:51.960 Murrow before them, you know, where basically one of the things that people 01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:59.480 sort of say made democracy a little bit healthier was the fact that there was the shared reality. 01:16:59.480 --> 01:17:06.380 like everybody watched the the evening news on the three big networks and there 01:17:06.380 --> 01:17:10.460 wasn't a huge difference you didn't have a different view of reality if you 01:17:10.460 --> 01:17:13.600 watched abc instead of cbs you know there may. 01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:17.260 Have been some nuance different maybe they got an extra detail some other stuff 01:17:17.260 --> 01:17:22.000 whatever but the reality is that the facts were aligned 90 plus 99. 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:27.400 Whereas right now if you are a 100% Fox News viewer, 01:17:27.660 --> 01:17:33.040 you will have a very different view of what is happening in the world than if 01:17:33.040 --> 01:17:37.240 you were a 100% MSNBC viewer, or let alone... Well, as I mentioned. 01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:41.660 This week, I switched, 01:17:42.700 --> 01:17:45.760 TV providers for home, and I've, 01:17:46.580 --> 01:17:51.460 been having the DirecTV for Business Channel thing up a while now, 01:17:51.480 --> 01:17:54.780 and I realize that I'm looking at what 01:17:55.080 --> 01:18:02.460 what CNBC and Bloomberg are covering versus what the fuck Fox Business is covering, 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.240 which is like some alternate planet. 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.440 Okay, all right. Yeah. 01:18:07.660 --> 01:18:07.820 Yeah. 01:18:08.820 --> 01:18:14.160 It is, I mean, there could be, I mean, literally, there was like big stories, 01:18:14.440 --> 01:18:19.280 shit happening, important, like the other week, like right now on the business 01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:20.500 side. I can't remember which one. 01:18:21.040 --> 01:18:26.360 CNBC and Bloomberg are all over it. Bloomberg, Fox is socialism. 01:18:28.360 --> 01:18:32.580 They have this tyrant about the socialism threat in New York and how they're 01:18:32.580 --> 01:18:34.620 going to destroy this, how he's destroying the city. 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:35.440 Right. 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:39.840 The story that was happening was like it didn't exist. And I think it was related 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:47.600 to some bad economic data, something relevant that was just not aligned with the GOP agenda. 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:57.500 Yeah. I mean, I tip, I often, not as often as I used to, like my consumption 01:18:57.500 --> 01:19:02.200 of live TV news in any way has, of course, like everybody else has gone down 01:19:02.200 --> 01:19:03.520 considerably since the election. 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:10.400 but like i'll still like i'll put up the uh four up news thing on on on my thing 01:19:10.400 --> 01:19:14.780 and usually put it on mute and just have it on like you know yeah so. 01:19:14.780 --> 01:19:16.220 Do i it's all on mute yeah. 01:19:16.220 --> 01:19:24.660 And and yeah like you said like i i the the chyron on fox earlier like last 01:19:24.660 --> 01:19:28.840 night sometime was some guy i don't even know which show it was, 01:19:28.980 --> 01:19:30.620 but it was like, you know, 01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:34.800 Democrats have wine for Thanksgiving. W-H-I-N-E. 01:19:35.500 --> 01:19:40.280 you know, was, it was the chyron as the thing that they were talking about, 01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:45.460 where I guess, you know, Democrats are complaining about whatever, blah, blah, blah. 01:19:45.780 --> 01:19:49.820 You know, they had their, their three hosts laughing and talking about that. 01:19:49.980 --> 01:19:51.640 And for like five minutes or whatever. 01:19:52.200 --> 01:19:56.040 Yeah. Yes. It's completely different universe, depending on which of the, 01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:58.140 what your news sources were. 01:19:58.220 --> 01:20:01.880 And I was about to say, and that's even talking about TV, which honestly is 01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:05.480 old people at this point yeah this. 01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:07.440 Is old people shit yeah. 01:20:07.440 --> 01:20:10.600 Yeah if you start talking about the the the 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:14.500 the manosphere podcasts and you 01:20:14.500 --> 01:20:17.980 know the youtube channels people are watching and 01:20:17.980 --> 01:20:21.260 row tv and the you know 01:20:21.260 --> 01:20:24.540 and you know the various like 01:20:24.540 --> 01:20:28.460 discussion groups where people will hang out even if you're not like talking 01:20:28.460 --> 01:20:34.040 about the you know what whatever that one was with the the the road you know 01:20:34.040 --> 01:20:37.580 what was it rhode island or connecticut where all those republicans were taught 01:20:37.580 --> 01:20:41.980 hot talking about like how they love nazis and all the other stuff a couple 01:20:41.980 --> 01:20:44.220 months ago and even if you're not what. 01:20:44.220 --> 01:20:48.800 Well that wasn't that the the chat of the youth people or. 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:53.560 Yeah yeah the young republicans 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:56.420 yeah right even even if you're not talking 01:20:56.420 --> 01:20:59.320 that you know you're talking you know reddit groups and 01:20:59.320 --> 01:21:02.620 whatever you know like it is much more 01:21:02.620 --> 01:21:06.280 you know you are finding out people who 01:21:06.280 --> 01:21:09.300 agree with you and you are seeking out and 01:21:09.300 --> 01:21:12.320 it people have talked endlessly about 01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:17.580 information bubbles and look i'm in one too i work to pierce it a little bit 01:21:17.580 --> 01:21:22.500 by like like making sure i have i i have that four up and i see what fox is 01:21:22.500 --> 01:21:27.040 talking about you know now do i take it seriously could i stand watching more 01:21:27.040 --> 01:21:31.840 than a few minutes of fox in a row with this volume up no oh my god listen. 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.920 Man it it it it's it's it's torture, 01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:45.380 It hasn't changed from the formula Is what I said It's the old Rush Limba formula 01:21:45.380 --> 01:21:51.360 He really patented it Where they just go All facts are just ignored We just 01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:54.520 twist and talk About bullshit, 01:21:55.160 --> 01:22:00.520 But now you add a big dose Of misogyny And just absolutely just, 01:22:01.780 --> 01:22:05.900 Racism To it as well It's really fucked up. 01:22:07.080 --> 01:22:11.620 Okay let's take another break you you tried to switch topics and have me pick 01:22:11.620 --> 01:22:14.240 one like half an hour ago or something and. 01:22:14.240 --> 01:22:16.000 Yeah we just ended up continuing the. 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:20.640 I didn't do anything so let's take a break and then i will pick a topic for 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.080 the remainder of the show and. 01:22:23.080 --> 01:22:23.420 We will. 01:22:23.420 --> 01:22:25.460 Be back after this. 01:22:30.280 --> 01:22:35.000 No no it's not the beginning of the show again we're just taking a little time 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.100 to credit the artist responsible for the music we use at the beginning and end 01:22:39.100 --> 01:22:46.100 of the show what you are listening to right now is the o of pleasure by ray lynch. 01:23:03.280 --> 01:23:07.880 The music we close our show with is Celestial Soda Pop, 01:23:14.060 --> 01:23:19.200 Both of these songs are from Deep Breakfast Now Platinum, Deep Breakfast was 01:23:19.200 --> 01:23:23.880 the first independently released album ever to be certified gold by the RIAA, 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:30.880 Ray Lynch's other albums are The Sky of Mind. 01:24:07.240 --> 01:24:08.860 And the best of Ray Lynch. 01:24:14.860 --> 01:24:18.940 You can check out Ray Lynch or buy his music at raylynch.com, 01:24:19.240 --> 01:24:22.120 iTunes, Amazon, or anywhere you use your music. 01:24:26.450 --> 01:24:31.250 And we are back. Okay, so, topic. 01:24:31.590 --> 01:24:33.130 Yeah, topic. 01:24:33.430 --> 01:24:40.230 I think of the things this week, the one that we'd be most remiss in not talking 01:24:40.230 --> 01:24:46.550 about is the controversy over giving illegal orders to the military. 01:24:47.430 --> 01:24:51.330 Are you going to go to that? Oh, fuck. I thought. 01:24:51.670 --> 01:24:54.010 What did you want? What did you want? 01:24:54.170 --> 01:24:58.210 No, no, no, no, no. No, I was like trying to look at, I was trying to guess 01:24:58.210 --> 01:24:59.490 what you were trying to guess. 01:24:59.830 --> 01:25:01.590 What did you guess I was going to go for? 01:25:01.630 --> 01:25:06.410 My guess, my guess was that you're going to talk about Comey and James dismissal. But, okay. 01:25:06.750 --> 01:25:09.570 Yeah, no, I like that that's old news at this point. 01:25:10.070 --> 01:25:12.610 Okay, all right, so the illegal orders. Okay, all right. 01:25:12.670 --> 01:25:16.630 No, and specifically, what came up this week started? 01:25:16.790 --> 01:25:22.390 By the way, the criminal orders. Let's be clear about this. These are criminal acts. 01:25:22.890 --> 01:25:28.610 Yes, well, where this started, yeah, well, I was going to get to that towards the end. 01:25:28.750 --> 01:25:34.990 But before that, earlier in the week, a group of like, I believe it was five senators. 01:25:35.430 --> 01:25:38.330 The only one I remember off the top of my head is Mark Kelly was one of them. 01:25:39.110 --> 01:25:44.090 Put out a video basically saying, hey, if you're in our armed forces, 01:25:44.410 --> 01:25:51.330 remember, it is part of your oath that you need to refuse an illegal order. 01:25:51.770 --> 01:25:52.310 That's right. 01:25:52.390 --> 01:25:56.770 You not only have the right—well, I think they just mentioned you have the right 01:25:56.770 --> 01:25:58.570 to reject an illegal order. 01:25:58.710 --> 01:26:06.010 But in fact, it's actually considered your responsibility to refuse an illegal order. 01:26:06.230 --> 01:26:12.990 It's part of the oath that the law is more important than your orders. 01:26:13.210 --> 01:26:18.670 It's part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice says this as well. 01:26:18.670 --> 01:26:23.750 people pointed out like there's a plaque at West Point that specifically calls 01:26:23.750 --> 01:26:26.990 out your duty in this realm. 01:26:27.290 --> 01:26:29.130 And of course, you know, 01:26:29.820 --> 01:26:34.000 The administration responded very negatively to this. 01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:41.880 Now, you'd think the right response in a normal administration would be to come 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:46.220 out and say, absolutely right. And nobody ever has to worry about this with 01:26:46.220 --> 01:26:48.920 us because we would never issue an illegal order. 01:26:49.140 --> 01:26:54.860 But absolutely, it is the responsibility of every member of the military to 01:26:54.860 --> 01:27:00.260 reject illegal orders. Oh, and we will never do that. That is not what they did. 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:06.040 Instead, they were going after and saying, like, anybody who's even— No. 01:27:06.320 --> 01:27:11.280 They didn't. They didn't just say, hey, we rule of law. Yeah, 01:27:11.480 --> 01:27:12.800 we are right there with you. 01:27:12.980 --> 01:27:21.060 No, no. They instead are going after and investigating the senators supposedly 01:27:21.060 --> 01:27:24.820 for sedition because they are undermining the military. 01:27:24.820 --> 01:27:28.100 They're encouraging the military to defy orders, etc. 01:27:28.120 --> 01:27:30.900 et cetera, et cetera. And it's like, wait a second. 01:27:30.940 --> 01:27:31.700 That's a normal reaction. 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.900 They're talking about illegal orders. And they're like, well, 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:40.500 they're implying that our orders are illegal and therefore they should be ignored. 01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:43.420 No. Nobody's implying anything, assholes. 01:27:43.700 --> 01:27:46.900 Well, okay, look, the clear. 01:27:47.060 --> 01:27:50.300 No, no, no. You're not going, listen, not, listen. 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:56.640 I'm sorry. When you're saying that, you know, you're not saying that all the 01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.760 orders are illegal, but then you should examine the orders that you're being given. 01:28:00.140 --> 01:28:05.420 I mean, are there some orders that sound illegal? Yeah, but you're not directly 01:28:05.420 --> 01:28:07.160 challenging any individual order. 01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:12.280 You know, what else you're saying is, hey, remember your oath. 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:14.780 Yes, that's basically all they said. 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:19.500 If telling somebody, remember your oath, to the other person, 01:28:19.500 --> 01:28:22.140 it sounds like an accusation, guess what? 01:28:22.990 --> 01:28:23.510 Yes. 01:28:24.370 --> 01:28:28.370 You're the one with the problem because you aren't carrying a guilty cause around 01:28:28.370 --> 01:28:30.050 because you know you're breaking the law. 01:28:30.730 --> 01:28:40.070 Exactly. Now, just realistically, the path for rejecting illegal order is a hard path. 01:28:40.210 --> 01:28:45.490 Like if you're some schlub who's at a low level of the military and you just, 01:28:45.850 --> 01:28:50.190 you know, on your own decide, hey, this order sounds illegal. I'm not going to do it. 01:28:50.530 --> 01:28:56.210 The process from that point in time to you being vindicated and, 01:28:56.210 --> 01:28:59.070 you know, it is. It's lengthy. 01:28:59.250 --> 01:29:00.150 It's not easy. Yeah. 01:29:00.470 --> 01:29:07.130 And you, you are likely, you know, damaging your career by making that choice. 01:29:07.370 --> 01:29:13.570 But, you know, this is why, this is why the reminder is good that it is actually 01:29:13.570 --> 01:29:15.130 your responsibility to do so. 01:29:16.210 --> 01:29:22.250 Unfortunately, Sam, such is the life of, many times, making the right decision. 01:29:23.790 --> 01:29:29.710 And so anyway, they got extremely defensive. They got aggressive in the ways we talked about. 01:29:29.870 --> 01:29:37.230 And then later in the week, a leak came out about Secretary Hegseth that you were mentioning, 01:29:38.050 --> 01:29:43.730 specifically the very first time they went after one of these boats off the 01:29:43.730 --> 01:29:48.410 coast of Venezuela that they claim are running drugs or whatever they're claiming. 01:29:49.130 --> 01:29:56.270 there were survivors that were clinging to the wreckage and hegseth specifically 01:29:56.270 --> 01:30:01.890 ordered a second strike to go back and just kill them all right this this is 01:30:01.890 --> 01:30:06.030 something where now there's a very that is flat. 01:30:06.030 --> 01:30:07.090 Out a criminal act. 01:30:07.090 --> 01:30:10.770 Yeah i was going to say there there's a very strong argument that the first 01:30:10.770 --> 01:30:14.590 attack on these boats that every attack on these boats is a criminal act is 01:30:14.590 --> 01:30:17.930 a criminal act but but it's at least an argument where people, 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:23.220 you know, could have a good faith argument about whether or not there's a legal 01:30:23.220 --> 01:30:25.020 justification. I think the answer is no. 01:30:25.420 --> 01:30:32.060 But for the second attack, it is clearly 100 percent, you know, 01:30:32.180 --> 01:30:34.520 Geneva Convention, U.S. 01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:41.840 law, everything going back wherever that the military going after and attacking 01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:50.080 non-combatants intentionally who pose no threat whatsoever because they are already injured, 01:30:50.500 --> 01:30:52.180 taken out of the battle, whatever. 01:30:53.200 --> 01:30:57.500 It's 100% a war crime, undeniable. 01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:02.860 Like there's not even, like you usually, when these things get reported, 01:31:03.140 --> 01:31:10.100 you have at least some of sort of the conservative military experts giving some sort of justification. 01:31:10.260 --> 01:31:12.740 They've been remarkably silent on this one. 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:17.680 And so after this whole start of the week with people talking about, 01:31:17.860 --> 01:31:22.820 hey, it's important to say no to illegal orders, remember your oath, 01:31:22.980 --> 01:31:26.880 blah, blah, blah, and the administration blowing up against that, oh, look, 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:33.940 here's Hegseth giving a clearly illegal order and having it followed just a few months ago, 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:37.780 and almost unambiguously so. 01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:47.020 And of course, this is why they don't want anybody thinking about whether an order is illegal or not. 01:31:47.140 --> 01:31:55.360 They just want obedience because they are 100% doing things that are illegal 01:31:55.360 --> 01:32:00.240 and are contemplating more, both internationally and domestically. 01:32:00.380 --> 01:32:01.360 I mean, Trump and company have 01:32:01.360 --> 01:32:05.260 talked about the things they want to do bringing military into cities. 01:32:05.420 --> 01:32:10.200 Is there a statute of limitations on prosecuting Hegsiv for something like that? Do you know? 01:32:11.110 --> 01:32:12.850 Off the top of my head, I haven't researched it. 01:32:13.150 --> 01:32:18.990 I haven't researched either. I think U.S. law might be difficult because of 01:32:18.990 --> 01:32:22.190 various things about granting immunity. 01:32:22.510 --> 01:32:26.270 No, fine. We'll fucking turn him over to the international courts. I'll turn his ass. 01:32:26.290 --> 01:32:31.470 I don't think there are statutes of limitations on war crimes and crimes against 01:32:31.470 --> 01:32:32.590 humanity internationally. 01:32:32.890 --> 01:32:35.890 Turn his ass over to the international criminal court. 01:32:36.190 --> 01:32:38.050 I actually posted that on Blue Sky. 01:32:38.050 --> 01:32:43.150 I'm like, the next administration needs to- First state is arrest them, 01:32:43.210 --> 01:32:45.170 put them on a fucking plane and dump them in The Hague. 01:32:45.610 --> 01:32:50.930 Fuck you. Yeah, I mean, look, the administrations of both parties have rejected 01:32:50.930 --> 01:32:55.770 the authority of the ICC for years because they're afraid the ICC would go after Americans. 01:32:56.010 --> 01:33:00.890 The next Democrat in office has to say, fuck all that. We recognize the ICC. 01:33:01.230 --> 01:33:06.110 And if Americans do something bad, they absolutely should be put to account 01:33:06.110 --> 01:33:10.150 for it. Oh, and by the way, here's the whole damn Trump administration. 01:33:10.510 --> 01:33:17.910 Take them, please, and do what needs to be done. Because clearly our system failed at that. 01:33:17.910 --> 01:33:20.530 It's not equipped to handle this right now. 01:33:20.810 --> 01:33:26.190 Over handling January 6th and all that kind of stuff, we failed utterly at actually 01:33:26.190 --> 01:33:28.730 bringing Trump to justice over that. 01:33:29.210 --> 01:33:35.570 But yeah, just take the whole damn administration and hand them over to the ICC. 01:33:35.570 --> 01:33:38.790 Of of of justice not served 01:33:38.790 --> 01:33:41.750 for some reason and i haven't found 01:33:41.750 --> 01:33:47.830 yet why that is trump announced this morning the pardon for a honduran ex-president 01:33:47.830 --> 01:33:55.570 convicted of drug traffic who was serving a 45-year sentence that today i don't 01:33:55.570 --> 01:33:58.810 know why i'm not sure what i don't know i'm not sure what the payoff or the 01:33:58.810 --> 01:34:00.430 thing that he got i'm sure it's got the, 01:34:01.750 --> 01:34:04.170 You know, he's got to be making money off of this somehow. 01:34:04.470 --> 01:34:04.890 Of course. 01:34:05.110 --> 01:34:11.250 But he went and, you know, I'm going after Maduro for drug trafficking, 01:34:11.490 --> 01:34:15.550 but I'm going to pardon somebody else that just got convicted last year of this. 01:34:16.910 --> 01:34:23.650 Well, yes. And speaking of previous administrations, like getting consequences 01:34:23.650 --> 01:34:29.510 for their actions, I remember a while back when Trump was being prosecuted. 01:34:29.510 --> 01:34:39.050 I think Bruce on our Slack asked about, this is just the danger of the new administration 01:34:39.050 --> 01:34:41.590 going after the previous administration leading to a cycle, 01:34:41.810 --> 01:34:45.290 and asking, what countries do this? 01:34:45.390 --> 01:34:48.830 Has this happened, especially during a campaign? And of course, 01:34:49.030 --> 01:34:51.270 you know, we have examples. 01:34:51.570 --> 01:34:56.010 We have Netanyahu in Israel, although he hasn't been brought to justice either. 01:34:56.490 --> 01:35:01.630 We've had things happening in Korea. Of course, we just had ex-president of 01:35:01.630 --> 01:35:06.410 Brazil go to jail this week after apparently Donald Trump was planning on busting 01:35:06.410 --> 01:35:11.150 him out and rescuing him, but they arrested him first. 01:35:11.150 --> 01:35:17.090 I just saw something about, apparently Peru has a whole bunch of ex-presidents in jail. 01:35:17.690 --> 01:35:18.730 Yes, that is true. 01:35:19.230 --> 01:35:23.210 And a new one just got arrested this week. Yeah. 01:35:24.170 --> 01:35:27.730 Brazil has sent more than one president to jail. I mean, this isn't the first 01:35:27.730 --> 01:35:30.670 one. I mean, the current president had been in jail. 01:35:30.870 --> 01:35:31.230 Yes. 01:35:31.430 --> 01:35:31.510 Okay? 01:35:33.050 --> 01:35:38.150 And look, you certainly can have a scenario that's unhealthy, 01:35:38.150 --> 01:35:42.890 where just every administration automatically puts the previous administration in jail. 01:35:43.090 --> 01:35:46.210 That's not what we're talking about here, and that is unhealthy. 01:35:46.710 --> 01:35:53.550 But if they're actual crimes, absolutely people should be held to account, you know? 01:35:53.750 --> 01:35:56.910 But by the way, in almost all the cases that we're talking about here, 01:35:57.150 --> 01:36:01.450 look, there have been criminal acts. This isn't, you know—, 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:08.160 you know hey you want to stop going to jail how about you stop being a criminal. 01:36:08.160 --> 01:36:10.920 Yes well of course the 01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:13.720 whole view here is the reason you try 01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:18.520 to get power is so that you're exempt from all those laws and you can do whatever 01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:23.300 the hell you want right yes this is this is why you accumulate lots of money 01:36:23.300 --> 01:36:28.500 this is why you become president of a country this is why you you know go into 01:36:28.500 --> 01:36:31.080 politics more generally, I guess. I don't know. 01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:37.200 It's all about corruption and power for a significant group of these folks. 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.960 There is a big group of these people that are like that. I do agree. 01:36:41.120 --> 01:36:46.120 But one thing that I had observed in the past in the U.S. is that that number was lower. 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:48.680 Used to be. Used to be. In the U.S. 01:36:48.740 --> 01:36:48.900 Used to be. 01:36:49.100 --> 01:36:49.280 Okay. 01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:53.760 And you honestly did have lots of people. And, you know, look, 01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.600 I've got family who's in politics. 01:36:57.220 --> 01:36:58.860 Listen, let me give you a good example. 01:36:58.860 --> 01:36:59.040 A 01:36:59.040 --> 01:37:01.720 Lot of people who are actually in it because they thought this was a good way 01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:05.440 to it was public service and it was making the country better and they were. 01:37:05.440 --> 01:37:10.780 Helping you a good example let me give you a great example aoc and mtg i think 01:37:10.780 --> 01:37:14.700 got to congress both around the same time pretty close okay not that far off 01:37:14.700 --> 01:37:20.060 right so mtg left congress and now has a net worth of 35 million dollars according 01:37:20.060 --> 01:37:25.060 to the latest financial reports that she had filed okay how much do you think mtg aoc is worth. 01:37:26.850 --> 01:37:30.650 More than she was when she was a waitress, but she's not, like, crazy rich. 01:37:31.150 --> 01:37:35.790 Not by a lot. Okay? Less than $100,000. Okay. It's her total amount of worth right now. 01:37:36.390 --> 01:37:36.790 Yeah. 01:37:37.310 --> 01:37:41.970 Okay, according to the latest file. I mean, what I said, you could clearly see 01:37:41.970 --> 01:37:45.590 that one person was in it for the grift and one person was in it for service. 01:37:46.370 --> 01:37:46.550 Right. 01:37:47.330 --> 01:37:52.250 I, like, my congressman that I had for, because the district's changed, 01:37:52.410 --> 01:37:54.650 she's not a congressman anymore, Louis Frankel. 01:37:54.650 --> 01:37:58.190 I still remember that, you know, one time I was flying to DC, 01:37:58.510 --> 01:38:01.150 I was in coach, and she was sitting in coach right beside me, 01:38:01.490 --> 01:38:05.310 you know, and I'm like, and I know that from her financial reports, 01:38:05.330 --> 01:38:12.710 and she also, you know, didn't, you know, enrich herself in some crazy manner while in the house. 01:38:12.710 --> 01:38:18.650 But you almost see very, especially in recent times, 01:38:18.950 --> 01:38:29.170 that a lot of these grifters just amassing incredible amounts of wealth while they are in their seat. 01:38:29.390 --> 01:38:34.230 I mean, I think, you know, Sinema was a Democrat, but there's a reason why people wanted her out. 01:38:34.570 --> 01:38:38.470 Sinema amassed a multi-million dollar fortune while she was in the Senate. 01:38:38.770 --> 01:38:39.290 Right. 01:38:39.430 --> 01:38:39.930 Out of the blue. 01:38:39.930 --> 01:38:44.910 Well, you've seen these things, right, that are saying, hey, 01:38:45.110 --> 01:38:49.170 Congress does a lot of insider trading because they get information and blah, blah, blah, 01:38:49.350 --> 01:38:54.070 where people have actually set up investment funds where the only thing they 01:38:54.070 --> 01:38:59.430 do is they track the disclosures of prominent Congress people and politicians 01:38:59.430 --> 01:39:03.790 and copy their trades. And those funds have done pretty well. 01:39:05.370 --> 01:39:08.830 And they went, well, obviously one of the things that there was a timing issue 01:39:08.830 --> 01:39:12.810 between the time that they traded the disclosure, so if you were able to trade, right. 01:39:12.950 --> 01:39:16.090 So if you were able to trade, you know, at the moment that they did. 01:39:16.790 --> 01:39:17.190 Right. 01:39:17.810 --> 01:39:22.410 But, but this is the kind of shit that we're living with. 01:39:22.610 --> 01:39:32.410 And I, man, if, you know, I said that you didn't need to do an anti, anti project 2025 plan. 01:39:32.550 --> 01:39:32.810 Yes. 01:39:32.810 --> 01:39:39.030 It should be somewhere on your to-do list I didn't see it I need to somehow 01:39:39.030 --> 01:39:46.990 add it I need to bribe Alex to give me your pen code you know. 01:39:48.230 --> 01:39:51.970 Text him and give him the right offer he'd probably text it back to you. 01:39:52.710 --> 01:39:58.690 Yes I think there's a big to-do right offer he'd probably just give it to me okay alright okay so, 01:40:00.040 --> 01:40:08.920 Look, I think that these things need to be a priority in terms of legislation 01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:12.220 that needs to be passed right away. 01:40:12.700 --> 01:40:16.040 That you need to fucking make so many of these changes. 01:40:16.440 --> 01:40:16.980 Right. 01:40:17.360 --> 01:40:19.480 And including constitutional amendments. 01:40:19.980 --> 01:40:20.780 Well, yeah. 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.000 That need to be proposed to fix a lot of issues. 01:40:24.040 --> 01:40:31.640 I mean, yes. I mean, we've been saying since the first Trump administration 01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:40.760 that reforms to make it impossible for the kind of abuses that have been going on. 01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:45.680 And I say because of the Trump administration, but it's not just Trump, obviously. 01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:54.360 Make these things that have been exposed as either not illegal at all under 01:40:54.360 --> 01:40:59.500 current law or the laws that exist are toothless and impossible to enforce. 01:41:00.140 --> 01:41:05.000 Fix that. and, you know, make some of these things, you know, 01:41:05.120 --> 01:41:08.260 all of the corruption we're seeing, all of the abuse of power, 01:41:08.480 --> 01:41:09.760 blah, blah, blah, make it impossible. 01:41:10.040 --> 01:41:15.880 The problem is that even when, like, the Democrats are in power, 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:21.060 there's a significant chunk of Democrats who are like, eh, I'm not so sure about 01:41:21.060 --> 01:41:23.440 this because this is constraining their own power, too. 01:41:24.080 --> 01:41:26.580 I don't care. It shouldn't matter. 01:41:26.740 --> 01:41:28.400 And their own ability to be corrupt. 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:32.360 It shouldn't matter. I don't care. I don't care. 01:41:32.420 --> 01:41:37.080 I don't care either. But what we've seen is like these things have a hard time 01:41:37.080 --> 01:41:39.460 getting traction and have a hard time getting passed. 01:41:40.410 --> 01:41:41.330 It's happened before. 01:41:41.610 --> 01:41:48.270 It has happened before. Generally, when reforms happen, it's in the wake of 01:41:48.270 --> 01:41:50.170 extraordinarily bad abuses. 01:41:50.470 --> 01:41:53.970 And if anything at all, that's what's happening right now. 01:41:54.150 --> 01:41:57.350 That's what's happening right now. And that's what needs to be a cornerstone 01:41:57.350 --> 01:41:59.750 of getting back into power. 01:41:59.950 --> 01:42:02.610 It needs to be to do all the things. 01:42:03.030 --> 01:42:04.790 I'll tell you. I mean, things like... 01:42:04.790 --> 01:42:08.090 The best case scenario coming out of... 01:42:08.090 --> 01:42:12.110 I'll tell you one thing. DOJ should not report to the president anymore. 01:42:12.470 --> 01:42:13.990 DOJ should be independent. 01:42:14.950 --> 01:42:21.070 Well, I mean, yeah, speaking of independence of DOJ, that whole mindset was 01:42:21.070 --> 01:42:24.590 a direct result of Watergate. Watergate. Watergate. 01:42:24.870 --> 01:42:25.310 Watergate. 01:42:25.570 --> 01:42:30.250 Watergate. You know, and what I was going to say. 01:42:30.270 --> 01:42:32.350 I like it in a Watergate scandal. 01:42:33.010 --> 01:42:40.970 Yes. Well, like the best case scenario right now in a post-Trump world is that 01:42:40.970 --> 01:42:44.370 we have the same kind of counter reaction that we had after Watergate. 01:42:44.570 --> 01:42:52.290 After Watergate, all sorts of reforms were passed to make the kind of abuses 01:42:52.290 --> 01:42:58.090 that, you know, frankly, not just Nixon, but Johnson and Kennedy were doing before them. 01:42:58.900 --> 01:43:03.440 Make that impossible or at least very hard. And those protections obviously 01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:10.180 didn't last forever, but they lasted for a good long while before they started getting eroded away. 01:43:10.420 --> 01:43:13.980 What he showed is that they weren't even strong enough. They need to be stronger. 01:43:14.420 --> 01:43:17.380 Right. Yes. And so, yeah, 01:43:17.500 --> 01:43:22.860 our best case scenario is Trump and his administration and the Republican grifters 01:43:22.860 --> 01:43:29.760 in general screw things up so badly that there is a massive call to fix these 01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:36.180 problems that's big enough that it can get rammed through Congress and whoever's the next president. 01:43:36.180 --> 01:43:44.520 And you do restrict all these powers and make it a lot harder to do these abuses, 01:43:44.820 --> 01:43:45.880 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 01:43:46.830 --> 01:43:51.550 Ah, okay. And, and, and crack down on this to go back to the topic, 01:43:52.190 --> 01:43:57.110 you know, make it easier to resist illegal orders, make it clearer. 01:43:57.390 --> 01:44:02.030 What's an illegal order, make it supports for that. And on the military side of things. 01:44:02.610 --> 01:44:08.650 And yeah, and yeah, join the ICC and turn all these damn people over to them. 01:44:08.650 --> 01:44:14.090 yeah so that's about all i had you got anything else on this or should we uh 01:44:14.090 --> 01:44:18.650 start wrapping things up we went actually long last week so we can go short today yeah. 01:44:18.650 --> 01:44:19.690 We can just wrap things up. 01:44:19.690 --> 01:44:29.910 Okay uh go to a curmudgeon-corner.com you can see all our transcripts you can shake, 01:44:32.630 --> 01:44:37.630 Yes, I'm done here. You know, it is clearly time to wrap up. 01:44:38.090 --> 01:44:43.830 And, you know, anyway, you can see our transcripts. 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We will send you a mug, 01:45:13.860 --> 01:45:16.300 all that kind of stuff at $2 a month or more. 01:45:16.780 --> 01:45:20.520 Or if you just ask us, we will invite you to our Commissions Corner Slack where 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.820 Yvonne and I and a bunch of other folks are talking throughout the week, 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:25.180 sharing links, all that kind of stuff. 01:45:25.280 --> 01:45:30.600 Yvonne, what is a highlight from the Slack this week that we have not talked about on the show? 01:45:30.980 --> 01:45:32.460 I got a couple. Okay. 01:45:32.580 --> 01:45:33.280 Okay. A couple. 01:45:33.280 --> 01:45:41.720 Some male wellness influencer said 99% of modern guys don't have tan balls, 01:45:42.620 --> 01:45:49.980 semen retention length five plus days, testosterone 700 plus NGDL, 01:45:50.780 --> 01:45:57.060 lean mass of 10% body fat, any Bitcoin, their life in order. 01:45:57.060 --> 01:46:03.160 literally the bar is so extremely low it's not that hard to be a one percent 01:46:03.160 --> 01:46:06.960 man man so sam when are you gonna start tanning your balls. 01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:12.640 I i don't know what you're talking about like i've been doing that for years 01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:20.100 like every day oh you know it's it's an important part of my my routine you 01:46:20.100 --> 01:46:24.560 know and when you can't get outside and do it in the sun they make machines Oh. 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:27.140 They make the little machines. So you're like, okay, all right. 01:46:27.200 --> 01:46:29.520 Yeah, it's like a tanning bed, but just for your balls. 01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:35.080 Another thing that I saw, they had this Consumer Reports thing where they were 01:46:35.080 --> 01:46:36.620 showing like really bad devices. 01:46:36.900 --> 01:46:39.020 Okay, all right, devices that were a problem. 01:46:39.480 --> 01:46:44.600 Okay, devices that have issues. Okay, so they said, hey, 10 devices you shouldn't buy. 01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:49.600 So they had scored poorly the MicroLife Advanced Digital Monitor, 01:46:49.780 --> 01:46:52.360 which is a blood pressure monitor, $40. Okay. 01:46:53.040 --> 01:46:58.340 They gave it an overall score of 33. They didn't get it down into the red. 01:46:58.540 --> 01:47:01.140 It was only orange, which is like the color before red. 01:47:02.360 --> 01:47:06.580 But this is the reason why I said, and I'm like, I'm a little bit baffled why 01:47:06.580 --> 01:47:08.180 they didn't score it a zero, okay? 01:47:08.460 --> 01:47:13.300 This device got a dismal score for accuracy and stores memory for only one user. 01:47:13.460 --> 01:47:17.280 On the plus side, it has a large display and it's easy to read. 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:22.940 And I'm like, look, if I buy a fucking blood pressure monitor, 01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:30.320 the one thing I expect it to do is that it reads the blood pressure accurate. 01:47:30.320 --> 01:47:36.680 I couldn't give a shit about an easy-to-read display that shows me the wrong 01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:38.240 fucking blood pressure. 01:47:38.380 --> 01:47:43.260 Now, wait a second, Yvonne. This gives me a business idea. 01:47:44.660 --> 01:47:49.200 Okay? Because not blood pressure monitors specifically. 01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:50.200 Okay. 01:47:50.200 --> 01:47:56.580 But my son, very often, when he doesn't feel like going to school, 01:47:56.980 --> 01:48:01.140 gets out the fever thermometer and is taking it over and over and over again 01:48:01.140 --> 01:48:05.080 to try to show us that he's got a fever and he shouldn't go to school. 01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:09.800 And you know, like Ferris Bueller had that whole thing where he faked being sick. 01:48:10.120 --> 01:48:11.120 Yes, yes, yes. 01:48:11.180 --> 01:48:15.120 We need to sell thermometers that specifically. 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:19.040 Yeah, you can tell it what temperature you want it to show. 01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:25.580 Exactly. You get a little adjustment dial on the back. And we market this to, 01:48:25.580 --> 01:48:31.040 you know, preteens and teenagers so that they can fool their parents. 01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:33.640 Oh, no, I'm sick. I'm sick. 01:48:33.700 --> 01:48:34.100 Look at this. 01:48:34.220 --> 01:48:34.280 I can't go to school. 01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:38.480 Look at this thing. Right. You know, when you do it is, you know, 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:40.240 not that thermometer you put in your head. 01:48:40.300 --> 01:48:42.900 You know, you got those digital ones that go on your forehead. 01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:48.220 Right. Listen, to make this cheap, the cheapest thing is, is you did this. 01:48:48.220 --> 01:48:49.480 You built a little thing. 01:48:49.660 --> 01:48:54.700 All you got is just a little lever where you select the temperature you want at the show. 01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:58.620 And so you press the button, it beeps, and voila, it just shows that wrong number. 01:48:59.420 --> 01:49:02.780 I don't know why we are not billionaires, Yvonne. 01:49:05.310 --> 01:49:06.850 With ideas like this. 01:49:07.710 --> 01:49:09.690 We're pretty bad at execution, it seems. 01:49:10.290 --> 01:49:13.790 It seems so. I mean, look, this clearly would be a market for this. 01:49:13.810 --> 01:49:18.810 Plus, we don't have, listen, plus we don't have tan balls. Well, you do have Bitcoin. 01:49:19.330 --> 01:49:24.490 I do have a little bit. I long ago got rid of most of the bit nickel I bought, 01:49:24.710 --> 01:49:26.590 and so I don't have very much left, but I have some. 01:49:26.850 --> 01:49:34.270 But, listen, but we are not sub-10% body fat. That I can assure you. 01:49:35.690 --> 01:49:39.770 I don't know what you're looking at I am svelte I am. 01:49:40.510 --> 01:49:47.990 Listen less than 10% body fat I mean yeah we're not at that level. 01:49:47.990 --> 01:49:51.790 I got the 6 pack going on no I got a. 01:49:51.790 --> 01:49:57.930 12 pack I saw some guy the other day when he did shirtless was that a game was 01:49:57.930 --> 01:50:02.390 that he shaved like the hairs on his belly in order to make it kind of like 01:50:02.390 --> 01:50:05.890 from afar looked like he had a 6 pack But what he did was just shave the hair 01:50:05.890 --> 01:50:08.130 in the pattern. Appropriate, in the pattern, yes. 01:50:08.890 --> 01:50:15.270 Okay, then. That's interesting. I guess you could draw it on with a marker or something, too. 01:50:15.710 --> 01:50:16.850 You could do that, too. 01:50:17.190 --> 01:50:17.970 Yeah, yeah. 01:50:18.110 --> 01:50:19.310 I've seen t-shirts. 01:50:20.300 --> 01:50:24.400 I mean, you know, these are about as good as the pull-ups that Pete Hegseth 01:50:24.400 --> 01:50:28.280 did with RFK Jr., where they supposedly both... 01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:30.900 Oh, that kind of pull-up. I thought you were talking like diapers. 01:50:31.620 --> 01:50:36.880 Yeah, like they were doing... No, not diapers. That's Trump's thing. 01:50:37.100 --> 01:50:43.380 But they were doing supposed exercises that the form was so... 01:50:43.380 --> 01:50:49.380 They didn't do any of the exercises they said they were doing to try to show how manly they are. 01:50:49.380 --> 01:50:57.280 Right. Okay. One last thing for me, I will mention my Juke Potter site again, jukepotter.com. 01:50:57.460 --> 01:51:02.840 The next thing on my to-do list is sort of try to fix bugs. 01:51:03.060 --> 01:51:06.740 And I know there's a bunch of places where it's sort of not, 01:51:06.940 --> 01:51:10.500 it works most of the time, but there are things that occasionally glitch out. 01:51:10.500 --> 01:51:13.940 So please, folks, I want some traffic. 01:51:14.240 --> 01:51:18.620 Go to jukepotter.com, play with it, try to explore, find some podcasts, 01:51:19.220 --> 01:51:20.400 send me some feature requests. 01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:23.440 I'm only about halfway through my list of features I want to add to the thing, 01:51:23.460 --> 01:51:26.520 so I've got more stuff to add, but send me feature requests. 01:51:27.060 --> 01:51:31.260 Check out the sponsors. I've got like right now I've got, you know, 01:51:31.260 --> 01:51:34.240 they're not 12 real sponsors because nobody's paying me money, 01:51:34.240 --> 01:51:39.780 but I put in my four podcasts and eight more from the Snohomish podcast network, 01:51:40.080 --> 01:51:47.820 where if you have filtered to something where that podcast would qualify, it boosts them. 01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:51.500 And I've got a whole backend system tracking how many views and clicks and blah, 01:51:51.540 --> 01:51:54.780 blah, blah, so that it could potentially be tied to billing. 01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:57.060 So test that stuff out so I can 01:51:57.060 --> 01:52:01.380 see if it works and send me feedback and things I should improve on it. 01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:06.280 Because then the very next thing on my list is like to bash some of these bugs. 01:52:06.440 --> 01:52:07.920 So if you have any, report them to me. 01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:13.360 And, you know, all my contact information, you can find me on the Curmudgeons 01:52:13.360 --> 01:52:16.460 Corner website I listed earlier, curmudgeons-corner.com. 01:52:17.330 --> 01:52:21.170 And yeah, that's it. I'm still working on Robin letter too. I, 01:52:21.550 --> 01:52:24.170 but there's not stuff to share yet. 01:52:24.950 --> 01:52:30.010 Everything I'm doing is sort of still internal other than the brochure page. Anyways. 01:52:31.290 --> 01:52:35.590 And, and I guess Yvonne says I should make this to do list thing, a project too. 01:52:35.810 --> 01:52:39.730 I like a public product. So I'll work on that. 01:52:39.870 --> 01:52:43.710 I had been thinking about that anyway, but maybe I'll actually start thinking, 01:52:43.870 --> 01:52:45.650 okay, what do I do to make this multi-user? 01:52:46.490 --> 01:52:49.270 anyway that's it thank you for 01:52:49.270 --> 01:52:53.030 joining us have a great week everybody I hope you had a great Thanksgiving if 01:52:53.030 --> 01:52:58.490 you did the Thanksgiving thing my mother came over we had dinner it was fun 01:52:58.490 --> 01:53:03.670 you know we did the thing so hope everybody else had a good time too have a 01:53:03.670 --> 01:53:06.830 great week stay safe we'll see you next time, 01:53:07.610 --> 01:53:09.490 goodbye bye Bye. 01:53:39.270 --> 01:53:46.690 Thank you. Okay, I think I'm going to go eat next, Yvonne. Even if I don't randomly 01:53:46.690 --> 01:53:48.470 roll that I should eat right now. 01:53:48.610 --> 01:53:51.910 Because I think that's still fairly low on the list. 01:53:52.110 --> 01:53:56.490 So I would be days before I eat if I waited for that to come up. 01:53:57.010 --> 01:53:59.250 Okay, that would be it. I like your plan. 01:53:59.530 --> 01:54:02.570 Okay, see you later. Bye. Hit and stop. Bye.