WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:05.690 Okay, let me make sure we've got the live stream thingy. 00:00:05.910 --> 00:00:11.010 Live stream thingy with the thingy and the thing. 00:00:12.270 --> 00:00:16.470 All the beautiful thingies with the thing. 00:00:18.570 --> 00:00:20.250 All gorgeous. 00:00:20.670 --> 00:00:21.950 You know when you do that. 00:00:22.170 --> 00:00:25.670 Yeah, they all wind up later like used, yes. 00:00:28.930 --> 00:00:33.090 That will absolutely be in our cold open. Sing some more, Yvonne. 00:00:33.590 --> 00:00:36.470 The thingies with the thing and the thing, thing, thing. 00:00:36.710 --> 00:00:42.190 We love little thingies over here. We have a lot of them. 00:00:42.570 --> 00:00:48.250 We keep them in our place. We share them with everybody, the nice little thingies. 00:00:48.430 --> 00:00:53.370 Thingy, the thingy, the beautiful little thingy. 00:01:01.290 --> 00:01:02.950 Okay, with that, shall we start? 00:01:03.310 --> 00:01:03.750 Yes. 00:01:04.250 --> 00:01:05.590 Okay, here we go. 00:01:28.570 --> 00:01:34.470 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, November 22nd, 2025. 00:01:35.130 --> 00:01:38.870 It is just after 3 UTC as we're starting to record. I am Sam Minter. 00:01:39.490 --> 00:01:45.270 Eddie Vonbo is back! I take it you're feeling better. You're recovered. You're doing great. 00:01:45.290 --> 00:01:52.770 I am feeling a lot better. You know, as mentioned, a few weeks back, 00:01:52.950 --> 00:01:54.830 I got this hernia surgery. 00:01:55.530 --> 00:02:00.110 I got my nephew giving me shit about it, saying, ah, it's just hernia surgery. 00:02:00.350 --> 00:02:04.590 I'm like, listen, asshole, you know, you got it done when you were 15. 00:02:04.590 --> 00:02:05.470 Let me tell you something. 00:02:05.650 --> 00:02:10.610 All of these things, when they happen as we are older, are all just harder. 00:02:11.510 --> 00:02:17.190 I have noticed that any healing in general, like any cut or something, 00:02:17.410 --> 00:02:20.590 takes longer to ever, like, heal than it used to. 00:02:21.010 --> 00:02:21.490 Yes. 00:02:21.490 --> 00:02:25.530 Especially the last, like, five years that I've noticed this, okay? 00:02:26.470 --> 00:02:32.850 So, yeah, you know, it's like, you get a cold now, you're coughing for weeks 00:02:32.850 --> 00:02:34.710 on end after the damn cold. 00:02:35.150 --> 00:02:38.910 You know, in the past, it was like, ah, three, four days are done. 00:02:39.070 --> 00:02:43.230 Now I got a cold, I'm hacking for two more weeks after it's done. 00:02:43.610 --> 00:02:47.110 Yeah, well, I guess it's not entirely done in that case, huh? 00:02:48.570 --> 00:02:53.130 Well, it's done in the sense like, you're not contagious. You know, 00:02:53.230 --> 00:02:56.170 you are past the area where you're like. 00:02:56.170 --> 00:02:59.070 You're past the worst of it, but it lingers for quite a while. 00:02:59.230 --> 00:03:04.270 It lingers, exactly. You get this lingering thing for a long time, 00:03:04.410 --> 00:03:06.650 and, you know, that's a thing. 00:03:06.770 --> 00:03:10.070 But honestly, I did, I, 00:03:10.370 --> 00:03:13.530 my sister-in-law, who's a doctor, before I went to surgery, 00:03:13.730 --> 00:03:18.130 she's the one that actually got, you know, my brother and my sister-in-law are 00:03:18.130 --> 00:03:22.590 the ones that got me the doctor that treated me because she you know she had 00:03:22.590 --> 00:03:28.550 before the surgery she had given me certain supplements to take specifically 00:03:28.550 --> 00:03:33.090 to heal faster afterwards and to not, 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.920 get a swollen up, be as bad, you know, right afterwards. 00:03:38.720 --> 00:03:43.120 And they seem to, it seems to have help because I know that I went to the doctor 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.080 and as a matter of fact, the checkup, I did it, the first check I did about 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.400 four or five days after I was out at a hospital. 00:03:49.880 --> 00:03:52.660 And he was like, surprised, wow, very little swelling. This is right. 00:03:52.900 --> 00:03:56.900 You know? So, so yeah, he expected more swelling and he was like, 00:03:56.940 --> 00:03:59.420 no, no, you're, you're, this is really good. 00:03:59.720 --> 00:04:06.960 So, so yeah, but I was like, Like, the first bit was very tiring. 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:12.860 But, Sam, what the fuck has been going on, for God's sakes? Look, I'm gone for two weeks. 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:13.540 Yes, yes. 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.260 MTG quits. I don't know. 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:23.520 Like, Mom Dami and Trump are in the White House kissing each other or something. 00:04:24.100 --> 00:04:33.140 You know, we've got stocks are going to hell. You know, they're all over the place. 00:04:33.320 --> 00:04:38.800 I don't understand what, you know, what the fuck? 00:04:39.420 --> 00:04:42.900 This is what you get for leaving. It's all your fault. 00:04:43.080 --> 00:04:49.920 Good God almighty. Probably. I'm going to take probably. It might well be. 00:04:50.540 --> 00:04:55.520 I mean, yeah. Maybe you have to take some responsibility. Own it here for a little bit. 00:04:55.520 --> 00:05:00.300 No, I mean, I was noticing as I was putting together like the notes that I, 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:05.300 you know, we have a channel on our conventions corner Slack for potential show topics. 00:05:05.500 --> 00:05:09.380 But right before the show, I copy it over into another document and make it 00:05:09.380 --> 00:05:10.660 a little neater and stuff like that. 00:05:10.860 --> 00:05:17.800 And just the sheer number of things this last week in particular. I mean, you were gone. 00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:21.700 I mean, usually in recent weeks, 00:05:22.510 --> 00:05:27.230 Well, it's, yeah, there have been a few things, but there hasn't been, 00:05:27.430 --> 00:05:32.070 you know, this time, like I'm looking at, you know, I added a couple of movies 00:05:32.070 --> 00:05:36.150 and books, but we have the Epstein Files vote. We have MBS at the White House. 00:05:36.290 --> 00:05:39.770 We have the Quiet Piggy comment. We have Olivia Nuzi. 00:05:40.750 --> 00:05:47.010 Oh my God, fucking Olivia Nuzi. Oh my God, Olivia Nuzi. Holy shit. 00:05:47.350 --> 00:05:50.450 You put in something about the water at McDonald's. Who knows what that is? 00:05:50.450 --> 00:05:52.630 The Syrian president was at the White House. 00:05:52.850 --> 00:05:52.970 Too. 00:05:53.050 --> 00:05:53.370 Oh, water at McDonald's? 00:05:53.550 --> 00:05:58.210 You know, well, it's simple. Yeah. But yes, there was something that happened 00:05:58.210 --> 00:06:00.170 with Trump and water at McDonald's, yes. 00:06:00.470 --> 00:06:03.270 Okay, okay. I didn't even know it was Trump-related. I thought you personally 00:06:03.270 --> 00:06:04.650 had a bad experience or something. 00:06:05.310 --> 00:06:09.590 Okay. You had put in something about Trump's net approval ratings. 00:06:09.870 --> 00:06:12.690 We wanted an update on the UPS plane crash. 00:06:13.190 --> 00:06:18.110 There's been development. There have been developments on the Texas redistricting. 00:06:19.110 --> 00:06:23.210 Right! There's been developments in the Comey case, Dick Cheney's funeral. 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:29.470 There's a Ukrainian peace deal on the table that's being discussed. 00:06:32.650 --> 00:06:37.390 I had said in the context of that, we should revisit what's happening in Gaza, too. 00:06:37.850 --> 00:06:42.050 There's the Mom Downey Trump stuff you mentioned. And just a couple hours before 00:06:42.050 --> 00:06:45.370 we started recording the show, there's this MTG resigning thing. 00:06:45.370 --> 00:06:50.210 That follows on a rift between her and Trump that's been growing over the last few weeks. 00:06:50.930 --> 00:06:55.490 So, yeah, lots of stuff going on, and I'm sure I haven't even mentioned everything. 00:06:55.810 --> 00:07:01.150 This is just the things that one or the other of us put on the commutage score 00:07:01.150 --> 00:07:03.510 slack to say maybe we should talk about. 00:07:04.410 --> 00:07:06.090 You know, so Christ. 00:07:06.630 --> 00:07:08.950 What the fuck is going on, Sam? 00:07:09.610 --> 00:07:12.330 So we got lots of, we got lots to talk about. 00:07:12.810 --> 00:07:14.270 We got lots to talk about. 00:07:14.630 --> 00:07:19.630 So just to, just to wrap it up though, surgery successful, you're feeling better. 00:07:19.770 --> 00:07:21.570 Are you a hundred percent yet? Or like 80? 00:07:21.930 --> 00:07:25.650 No, God, no, no, no. Listen, here's the thing. No, I am not. 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:31.490 I, there's still, I'm still taking pain meds three times a day for it. 00:07:32.030 --> 00:07:36.690 It's gone down. It's gone down, gone down, gone down. But no, 00:07:36.830 --> 00:07:39.130 I still have some discomfort from the surgery. 00:07:39.590 --> 00:07:44.190 Right now, it's like 90 plus percent down. 00:07:44.610 --> 00:07:48.810 First of all, but fuck, right after surgery that I woke up. 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:56.360 Holy shit was I in pain. And I had given me morphine. And I'm like, nurse, yeah? 00:07:56.700 --> 00:08:00.320 Look, whatever you gave me, not enough. Give me more. 00:08:01.580 --> 00:08:05.260 Well, I got to check with the doctor. I don't give a shit what the hell you 00:08:05.260 --> 00:08:09.300 gave me. Whatever the fuck it is, not enough. I need more. Now. 00:08:10.020 --> 00:08:11.980 More, more, more, more, more. More. 00:08:12.420 --> 00:08:15.960 I don't know what the fuck it is they gave me, but that worked. Okay? 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:16.480 Okay. 00:08:16.540 --> 00:08:21.580 Went in, injected me. One funny thing about this whole thing is my brother was 00:08:21.580 --> 00:08:23.040 there with me the whole day. 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:28.380 He decided because my mom's older. You know, she was taking care of helping me at the house. Okay. 00:08:28.760 --> 00:08:31.740 But at the hospital, it was uncomfortable and stuff. My mom, 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:34.100 you know, she's 80. She's tired. 00:08:34.340 --> 00:08:38.040 You know, my brother said, listen, mom, stay over there at the house. 00:08:38.180 --> 00:08:42.160 Then my wife's, you know, my sister-in-law, they're going to go pick you up. 00:08:42.620 --> 00:08:46.660 Come over to the hospital later when he's out. I'll take him. 00:08:46.660 --> 00:08:49.420 You know, I have to get to the hospital like at six in the morning. Okay. 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:55.820 By the way, the thing about the hospital is my sister-in-law's office is at that hospital. 00:08:56.020 --> 00:08:58.160 So it's at the same facility. 00:08:58.420 --> 00:09:04.560 So this was, you know, very easy. So one thing that happens is that I show up to get the pre-op. 00:09:05.280 --> 00:09:09.320 Oh, Mr. Bo, yes, I keep calling your wife's office all the time and talking 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.620 to you, whatever. And I'm like, wait, no, no, no. 00:09:13.520 --> 00:09:19.700 I'm his brother. Gosh, but you guys look so much alike. I'm like, are you guys twins? 00:09:20.280 --> 00:09:26.300 No, no, no, we're not twins. Okay. But listen, we look so much alike. 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:31.500 My brother's face ID on his phone has confused me with me. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:32.920 Me with me? 00:09:33.580 --> 00:09:40.200 I mean, me with me. Me with me. Hit him with me. I grabbed his phone and swiped the face ID. 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:41.920 You sure they didn't operate on your brain? 00:09:43.040 --> 00:09:46.780 No, they didn't get that yet. But, you know, that's later. 00:09:46.980 --> 00:09:51.700 But I grabbed his phone, and his phone thought I was him. 00:09:52.640 --> 00:09:56.900 Okay. I didn't realize. I swiped it up. I started using it. And I realized, 00:09:57.140 --> 00:10:00.620 wait, I didn't ask, didn't ask me for the password. 00:10:01.680 --> 00:10:03.560 Because usually, you know, you grab like your wife's sword. 00:10:03.680 --> 00:10:03.920 Right, right. 00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:04.900 You got to get the passcode. 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:05.920 Put it in the car. 00:10:05.920 --> 00:10:11.900 Now, it doesn't happen all the time, but it has confused me with him on various occasions. 00:10:12.940 --> 00:10:17.240 So that's how much we looked alike. So I went in in the morning and he said, 00:10:17.300 --> 00:10:19.060 no, your brother can't come in yet. 00:10:19.220 --> 00:10:23.840 So a nurse comes in and like just asked, who am I looking for to bring over? 00:10:23.980 --> 00:10:27.260 Because there's another nurse. go out there, look at the guy who just looks 00:10:27.260 --> 00:10:29.360 like me with more gray hair. That's it. 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:34.520 That's basically all it took. It just kept happening. 00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:39.560 We spent so many days together, everybody kept like, wait, who's what? 00:10:40.940 --> 00:10:43.440 No, I'm the brother. 00:10:44.880 --> 00:10:50.740 He stayed with me the whole day at the hospital. He brought his laptop, 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:52.660 he had some work to do, he stayed there or whatever. 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:59.500 So he took care of me for the day So that was good So everything went fine No 00:10:59.500 --> 00:11:03.320 problems Like right now Been working, 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:13.000 The first week and a half That was hard But this week's been Been a lot easier 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:19.160 The travel's not as bad as I expected Thank god So that was good You. 00:11:19.160 --> 00:11:20.380 Rode a bike back to Florida right? 00:11:21.950 --> 00:11:22.550 Rode a bike. 00:11:23.010 --> 00:11:23.550 Thank you. 00:11:23.790 --> 00:11:28.350 No, no, took a, took an airplane. You know, thankfully one of them happened 00:11:28.350 --> 00:11:30.670 to be, I actually planned this on purpose. 00:11:30.850 --> 00:11:37.770 There's, there, there are, so America between Dallas and Miami on certain, on, 00:11:37.970 --> 00:11:43.270 on, on certain flights that, you know, for, they, they need to move an international 00:11:43.270 --> 00:11:45.850 aircraft between one of the other, one of the other hubs. 00:11:46.130 --> 00:11:49.710 Okay. So there's times that there's always a triple seven that's flying between 00:11:49.710 --> 00:11:51.570 Miami and DFW, just short flight. 00:11:51.950 --> 00:11:53.310 But, look, I wanted to get that 00:11:53.310 --> 00:11:59.210 plane because, you know, because I could get on a seat that was a bed. 00:12:01.070 --> 00:12:02.210 Right. Right. 00:12:02.330 --> 00:12:07.250 Okay? Which was, you know, I'm like, no, I don't want to be stuck for three hours sitting... 00:12:08.900 --> 00:12:11.920 You know, I had been, I told you that I've been, I've been traveling, 00:12:11.980 --> 00:12:15.760 like even in regular domestic first class and I'd been in pain. Okay. 00:12:15.980 --> 00:12:16.140 Right. 00:12:16.620 --> 00:12:20.960 And I'm just like, I want to, and so I looked, oh, wait, if I leave at this 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.540 hour, I can get on a flight that's actually, you know, has an international business class seat. 00:12:27.140 --> 00:12:30.600 That's, that's, you know, that I could lie down on. 00:12:31.420 --> 00:12:35.220 And, you know, and because I always get upgraded on those flights, 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.820 I always get, there's like 60 first class seats. You get, you get a fucking upgrade. 00:12:40.220 --> 00:12:44.400 Okay. You know, I got, I got an upgrade very easily. Like we had my boss. 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:49.740 So that way I knew that. I was like, Oh God, I was able to, to lay down on, on the flight down. 00:12:49.880 --> 00:12:55.420 And because air traffic control had been like, you know, messy getting, 00:12:55.840 --> 00:13:04.880 look, getting out the, we weren't majorly delayed, but it was slow. Okay. 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.980 It was slow. getting from and 00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:11.920 dallas is a big airport just even getting to 00:13:11.920 --> 00:13:14.720 from from you get leave the gate and 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.580 they tell you yeah the flight might be two hours and some minutes but 00:13:17.580 --> 00:13:20.860 well we're gonna wait 35 minutes for takeoff i'm 00:13:20.860 --> 00:13:25.280 like fuck jesus christ you know plus you realize you you you put it all the 00:13:25.280 --> 00:13:31.000 time first boarding you know another half hour 45 minutes and then you got another 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:34.760 half hour sitting here it turns into easy three four hours sitting in a fucking 00:13:34.760 --> 00:13:38.080 place and i'm like And I'm not feeling all that great. 00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:40.660 So I'll try to avoid that. But anyway. 00:13:41.640 --> 00:13:43.600 Everything's everything worked out. 00:13:44.100 --> 00:13:48.280 Okay. Well, before we I'm glad you're alive. 00:13:48.880 --> 00:13:52.740 I'm glad they didn't accidentally remove something they shouldn't have removed. 00:13:52.920 --> 00:13:55.840 Hey, anything like that? You know, you know, that's the one thing. 00:13:55.920 --> 00:13:59.420 You know how they did this thing. I, you know, they mark you, right? 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.900 You know, so they ask you multiple times. 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:08.000 Why are you in here? Like my wife had her knee surgery just a few weeks before 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.580 you had yours, your your hernia surgery. 00:14:10.580 --> 00:14:18.320 And I was there for all the prep stuff and like they ask over and over and over again why are you. 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.480 Here again let's make sure it happens that 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.960 those errors still happen okay I 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:29.820 mean because I heard of an error like that recently happening and I'm like stunned 00:14:29.820 --> 00:14:35.200 how the hell could this still happen okay and they even marked with permanent 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:41.860 ink okay on my leg you know on the side This is the fucking side. This side. You know? 00:14:43.900 --> 00:14:49.240 I believe, I did ask, first thing I asked when I woke up from anesthesia, 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.440 and people do exactly what I meant. Like, I said, is he alive yet? 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:54.500 Oh. 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:56.720 That was my first question. 00:14:57.180 --> 00:14:57.780 Is he alive? 00:14:57.800 --> 00:15:00.680 Unfortunately, they said, and unfortunately, they said, told me yes. 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.820 It would have been nice if I could have gone with, you know, 00:15:04.920 --> 00:15:08.460 with, you know, let me tell you, that anesthesia, I mean, fucking anesthesia, 00:15:08.640 --> 00:15:09.640 I mean, you know, it's amazing. 00:15:09.900 --> 00:15:15.220 I mean, I don't remember it. I mean, it's like, boom, gone. All of a sudden, I just wake up. 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:21.140 It's like, oh, you know, it's like amazing. It's just gone. I don't, 00:15:21.500 --> 00:15:23.100 no drink, nothing. Just, just. 00:15:24.140 --> 00:15:24.460 Yep. 00:15:24.460 --> 00:15:26.040 And then I woke up. 00:15:26.140 --> 00:15:30.280 That's the way you want it. You know, you don't, like, occasionally you hear 00:15:30.280 --> 00:15:37.020 about a story where somebody was accidentally, like, they were conscious during the entire surgery. 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.880 Yes. Like, unable to move or anything, but they were conscious. 00:15:40.140 --> 00:15:43.600 They knew what was going on. They felt everything. You do not want to be that person. 00:15:43.640 --> 00:15:49.640 No. No. No. No. And Dr. Marquez is a wonderful doctor, by the way. Just to be clear. 00:15:49.780 --> 00:15:51.340 That's incredibly rare. 00:15:51.500 --> 00:15:55.760 It's incredibly rare, but it has happened. But Dr. Marquez, who treated me, 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:58.940 wonderful doctor, by the way, great guy. 00:15:59.540 --> 00:16:02.940 You know, one thing about it, he was also very reassuring, calming. 00:16:03.160 --> 00:16:06.500 You know, there is this thing, you know, he has this really, 00:16:06.760 --> 00:16:09.080 honestly, it's this very fatherly presence. 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:14.980 He's, you know, he must be in the 60s. He's been doing this for 35 years. 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.280 It's very nice and reassuring to get a doctor. It makes you feel, 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:19.160 like, all, like, comfortable. 00:16:19.980 --> 00:16:23.520 I got to admit that that doesn't suck. 00:16:24.460 --> 00:16:25.760 Especially when they're going to cut you open. 00:16:26.660 --> 00:16:28.300 So anyway all right. 00:16:28.300 --> 00:16:28.840 Enough of. 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:30.200 My fucking you know. 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.060 What i was gonna say is before we get to the serious stuff 00:16:33.060 --> 00:16:37.640 like the entire time you've been gone there have been co-hosts and they get 00:16:37.640 --> 00:16:42.520 to pick the topics and none of them decided to ask me about my tvs tv or movies 00:16:42.520 --> 00:16:48.280 or anything so that's been in suspended animation and you know also we need 00:16:48.280 --> 00:16:51.120 to catch up with me having you know, 00:16:51.260 --> 00:16:53.720 less schedule obligations. 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:59.160 I'm watching more shit anyway. So, like, I'm falling further and further beyond. 00:16:59.940 --> 00:17:02.300 So, let's just knock out, you know. 00:17:02.820 --> 00:17:04.300 Let's knock some of them out. 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:09.220 Well, yeah, okay. So, I told you before you left that the very next one was 00:17:09.220 --> 00:17:14.240 going to be the TV show, The Twilight Zone, the original Twilight Zone, 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:16.960 that ran from 1959 to 1963. 00:17:17.940 --> 00:17:20.160 You know, I have watched. 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.620 I i mean i recently watched a few episodes but i. 00:17:24.620 --> 00:17:25.200 Remember like. 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.820 Back i mean i'm i've watched a lot of the episodes it's a good show. 00:17:30.820 --> 00:17:34.880 It is a good show i mean there are 156 episodes 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:38.640 total over the course of five seasons now 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.320 obviously there are some episodes that 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:45.720 are famous that have gotten into the cultural zeitgeist 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.500 and like even if you are not 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:53.100 a twilight zone watcher you may 00:17:53.100 --> 00:18:01.320 have been aware of a twilight zoner yes you know and there and and you know 00:18:01.320 --> 00:18:05.320 i even describing some of these episodes like the whole thing is if you haven't 00:18:05.320 --> 00:18:10.440 seen them they're usually some twists they're usually some things that are surprising. 00:18:10.820 --> 00:18:17.320 So if you say, well, the one where blah, blah, blah, if you haven't seen it, you just gave it away. 00:18:17.660 --> 00:18:21.880 You know, not always. Some of them, there's no real twist. It's just the whole 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:24.380 thing is kind of eerie and weird and blah, blah, blah. 00:18:24.600 --> 00:18:30.720 In others, there's some sort of twist, but there's usually some sort of twist. I will say. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:40.120 The episodes that are super famous are super famous for a reason. 00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:46.800 They're good. They're well done. They have, you know, that sort of twist at 00:18:46.800 --> 00:18:51.800 the end that sort of gets you or it's just saying something that's, 00:18:52.220 --> 00:18:57.320 you know, I don't want to say profound, but maybe a little profound, 00:18:57.320 --> 00:19:01.340 you know, and there's a few of those. 00:19:02.540 --> 00:19:08.340 But I'd say if you look at the whole thing, though, 00:19:09.530 --> 00:19:14.030 It's a little uneven. There are some episodes that aren't that great as well, 00:19:14.290 --> 00:19:19.010 you know, but on average, it's consistently pretty decent. 00:19:19.270 --> 00:19:23.990 There are only a few clankers in there. And even the episodes. 00:19:24.490 --> 00:19:27.230 Well, 150 episodes. I mean, damn it. That's a lot of work. 00:19:27.390 --> 00:19:28.190 That's a lot of episodes. 00:19:28.410 --> 00:19:32.970 And let me say, the thing is that the show was very creative. Okay. Yes. 00:19:33.510 --> 00:19:38.590 And so I can see how it had to occasionally have a misfire. 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:45.690 I mean, because a lot of other shows have, you know, some themes like very recurring, 00:19:45.950 --> 00:19:47.190 like the same characters or whatever. 00:19:47.310 --> 00:19:51.990 But if you think about it, the Twilight Zone, they never really had the same cast of characters. 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:55.470 The stories were almost every single one originally self-contained. 00:19:55.930 --> 00:19:59.610 Well, yes. I mean, that's the whole thing. It's an anthology series. 00:19:59.830 --> 00:20:03.450 Each episode is self-contained. There's no continuing story. No nothing like that. 00:20:04.470 --> 00:20:10.350 It's just a different thing. Now, you do see some of the same actors and actresses come back. 00:20:10.550 --> 00:20:11.670 But they're playing different people. 00:20:11.810 --> 00:20:11.910 Right? 00:20:12.030 --> 00:20:13.390 Exactly. Right. 00:20:13.670 --> 00:20:20.270 And I'd say, you know, of the five seasons, the one, and I will mention there's 00:20:20.270 --> 00:20:24.890 one episode that is not usually included. 00:20:24.890 --> 00:20:28.370 Like if you go online to the places that have all the episodes, 00:20:28.570 --> 00:20:33.750 there's one episode that was like a French short movie that was repurposed, 00:20:33.870 --> 00:20:36.250 that they licensed as a Twilight Zone episode. 00:20:36.610 --> 00:20:37.130 Interesting. 00:20:37.390 --> 00:20:40.090 But only for like the original airing. 00:20:40.590 --> 00:20:44.630 So if you want to be complete, you have to go find that French movie, 00:20:44.870 --> 00:20:46.510 that French short movie. 00:20:46.630 --> 00:20:49.210 And it is available on YouTube, fairly low quality. 00:20:49.370 --> 00:20:52.070 But we were complete. We watched that one, too. 00:20:52.590 --> 00:20:56.270 But no, I'd say the one place where they sort of went off. 00:20:57.430 --> 00:21:00.910 Okay, two things. One, you're right. There's a lot of originality there. 00:21:01.030 --> 00:21:06.250 But by the time you got to the end of the five seasons, there were... 00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:07.330 Probably running out of ideas. 00:21:07.330 --> 00:21:13.170 Yeah, you started seeing some things where this feels kind of familiar. 00:21:13.650 --> 00:21:18.750 Oh, they're looking at this town where something weird is going on, 00:21:18.750 --> 00:21:24.230 and the exact weird thing might be a little bit different, but it has the same vibe. 00:21:24.230 --> 00:21:26.110 Yeah, I gotcha. 00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:31.070 Or, you know, they're landing on an alien planet, and something weird is going 00:21:31.070 --> 00:21:34.390 on, and then there's something that happens as a twist. And it's, 00:21:34.410 --> 00:21:37.970 you know, it's not exactly the same as the previous episode, 00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:40.610 but it feels familiar. So that's sort of. 00:21:40.610 --> 00:21:43.370 Well, if you think about it sometimes, I mean, yeah, I get it. 00:21:43.470 --> 00:21:48.410 And I mean, but yeah, but like I said, you need 150 and the originals were so original. 00:21:48.550 --> 00:21:53.030 At some point you start like, okay, guys, what the fuck are we going to write about now? 00:21:53.730 --> 00:21:58.770 Yeah. Now I will say the one place where I think they went wrong and they realized 00:21:58.770 --> 00:22:01.870 it and they went back the next season was season four. 00:22:01.870 --> 00:22:10.010 They, for seasons one through three, there were 20, the episodes were 25 minutes long for season four. 00:22:10.670 --> 00:22:13.490 They made 51 minute episodes. Yeah. 00:22:14.070 --> 00:22:17.050 Instead that that got too long it was 00:22:17.050 --> 00:22:20.130 it was it was stretched out they were clearly filling 00:22:20.130 --> 00:22:23.290 the space and it worked much better 00:22:23.290 --> 00:22:26.770 with the shorter episodes the longer episodes 00:22:26.770 --> 00:22:29.690 you sort of were like and by the way like 00:22:29.690 --> 00:22:32.770 i think like for if if you go for 00:22:32.770 --> 00:22:35.510 like what were the famous episodes that lots of people 00:22:35.510 --> 00:22:38.730 know about those weren't the 51 minute episodes 00:22:38.730 --> 00:22:41.910 you know those were the nice short 00:22:41.910 --> 00:22:45.430 you know you're you're gonna have you know 00:22:45.430 --> 00:22:48.370 it moves quickly it gets to the point you 00:22:48.370 --> 00:22:51.270 you have you know rod sterling come up 00:22:51.270 --> 00:22:55.870 and make his little statements you know that also were a critical part yeah 00:22:55.870 --> 00:23:03.690 exactly season four they really did drag it was just you know for this kind 00:23:03.690 --> 00:23:07.750 of material stretching it out to almost an hour was too much and so for the 00:23:07.750 --> 00:23:10.410 fifth season they went back to the 25 minute episodes. 00:23:10.970 --> 00:23:13.930 But overall, thumbs up for Twilight Zone. 00:23:14.490 --> 00:23:18.970 If you're at all into this kind of stuff, it's worth watching the original. 00:23:20.070 --> 00:23:24.750 You know, I have on the list to check out, there have been four now. 00:23:25.170 --> 00:23:28.670 There was the original that ran from 1959 to 1964. 00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:32.990 Then there was the Twilight Zone movie, of course. 00:23:33.630 --> 00:23:38.590 And then you had three more TV series. They're all named The Twilight Zone. 00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:40.730 There was one from 1985 to 1989. 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:46.910 There was one from 2002 to 2003. And the most recent was from 2019 to 2020. 00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:52.580 I don't think I watched any of the newer ones. I did watch the Twilight Zone 00:23:52.580 --> 00:23:56.360 movie. That I definitely watched. It was controversial in and of itself. 00:23:56.700 --> 00:23:59.620 Not so much because of the crash. Because of the crash. 00:24:00.320 --> 00:24:04.480 Yes. Yeah. For anybody who doesn't remember, there was a helicopter crash. 00:24:04.620 --> 00:24:07.260 A bunch of the actors were killed. Yeah. Et cetera. 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:14.580 And there was some controversy over exactly how that was laid out and safety and blah, blah, blah. 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:19.660 I remember watching the 1980s version of Twilight Zone as well. 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:25.200 Now, I say I remember watching it. Do I remember any of the episodes? No. 00:24:25.760 --> 00:24:29.440 So it was obviously not that good. I will say there was one episode. 00:24:29.600 --> 00:24:33.960 Listen, there is one episode of Twilight Zone that always, in my mind, 00:24:34.040 --> 00:24:35.320 has always stuck with me. 00:24:35.800 --> 00:24:37.940 That's the one that had Burgess Meredith. 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.140 I looked it up. It was in season two, episode 29. the 00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:46.080 obsolete man is the is the episode where 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:48.980 apparently in a it's a i looked 00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:53.460 up the plot in a future totalitarian state romney wordsworth spoilers coming 00:24:53.460 --> 00:24:57.520 spoilers coming spoilers coming romney wordsworth is put on trial for being 00:24:57.520 --> 00:25:03.380 obsolete his reverse occupation as a librarian is punishable by death as the 00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:08.920 state has eliminated books and that episode well i'm not going to go 00:25:09.080 --> 00:25:11.820 the rest of the details because I think it was... 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.700 It was very interesting. It always stuck to my head how they, 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:19.260 you know, this entire thing. 00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:23.480 Well, when you mentioned Burgess Meredith, I thought you were going to go for 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:29.800 time enough at last, which is another episode that he's in that's very famous because of how it ends. 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:37.340 Yeah. Well, I don't know. We'll avoid more spoilers, but Burgess Meredith is 00:25:37.340 --> 00:25:40.560 very good in the Twilight Zone. He really did a great job. 00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:48.060 In there. And so, yeah. So he was... It was just... 00:25:48.540 --> 00:25:52.500 You know, you think about some of these where we're talking about how maybe 00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:56.740 they sounded like kind of off the wall-ish. But shit... 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.820 Stuff going on now they're not they don't sound so crazy after all now. 00:26:01.820 --> 00:26:05.200 Well and and the thing too is 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:18.720 that you know 1959 to 1960 what what did i say four yeah 1964 59 to 64 that 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:24.340 was a long time ago but most of these episodes hold up really well. 00:26:24.340 --> 00:26:26.120 Well yeah that's the. 00:26:26.120 --> 00:26:31.880 Thing i mean you can laugh at some of the special effects and you can laugh 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.140 at some of the stylized acting and things like that. 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:42.240 But for the most part, the thing that they're trying to get across and the thing 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:48.960 that sort of punches you at the end of each episode still works in many, many of these episodes. 00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:53.480 There are a few that don't, like I said, but on most of them, 00:26:53.620 --> 00:27:00.160 they're hitting some sort of timeless theme that still applies today. 00:27:00.520 --> 00:27:06.600 Now, some of them, like, you know, there are a few that didn't last as well, 00:27:06.700 --> 00:27:08.740 especially the ones where they're, like, talking about, like, 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:13.100 you know, some technology thing that, whatever. 00:27:13.840 --> 00:27:20.060 Sure, but the thing about it, there aren't that many shows that are that old 00:27:20.060 --> 00:27:25.120 that really they hold up as well as The Twilight Zone. 00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:30.080 I, I, it's just, they, they really, it was really, it's a great show. 00:27:31.050 --> 00:27:34.590 Yeah thumbs up watch twilight zone most of 00:27:34.590 --> 00:27:39.010 it's uh i think it's on uh paramount so it's on paramount plus streaming okay 00:27:39.010 --> 00:27:42.570 there you go except for those like one or two episodes with licensing issues 00:27:42.570 --> 00:27:47.650 and if if you hit one of those you can uh you can find them online okay you 00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:51.110 can you can you can find them just use your google foo all. 00:27:51.110 --> 00:27:54.930 Right so we got so we got you got twilight zone what else. 00:27:54.930 --> 00:27:59.750 Should i do one more let's yes i'll do yes i'll do one more one more i mean 00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:03.430 to really catch up, I'd need to do a whole bunch, but like one more is enough. 00:28:03.770 --> 00:28:10.550 Okay. The next one, oh man. And I forgot to bring up the, this is an AFI list 00:28:10.550 --> 00:28:12.590 one. So let me bring it up. 00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:21.080 Sunset Boulevard from 1950, number 12 in the 1998 AFI 100 movies list, 00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:23.520 number 16 in the 2007 list. 00:28:24.380 --> 00:28:34.080 This is, I'll read the first couple paragraphs of the plot, the first three paragraphs. 00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:39.240 At a mansion on Sunset Boulevard, police officers and photographers discover 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.740 the body of Joe Gillis floating face down in the swimming pool. 00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:47.320 In a flashback, Joe relates the events leading to his death. 00:28:47.700 --> 00:28:52.520 Six months earlier, Joe, a down-on-his-luck screenwriter, tries to interest 00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:54.820 Paramount Pictures in a story he submitted. 00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:59.500 Script reader Betty Schaefer harshly critiques it, unaware that Joe is listening. 00:28:59.900 --> 00:29:05.640 Later, while fleeing from repo men seeking his car, Joe turns into the driveway 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:11.420 of a seemingly deserted mansion inhabited by forgotten silent film star Norma Desmond. 00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:14.720 Learning that Joe is a writer, Norma 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:19.260 asks his opinion of a script she has written for a film about Salome. 00:29:19.780 --> 00:29:23.660 She plans to play the role herself in her return to the screen. 00:29:24.180 --> 00:29:29.820 Joe finds her script abysmal, but flatters her into hiring him as a script doctor. 00:29:30.520 --> 00:29:35.600 Joe moves into Norma's mansion at her insistence and sees that Norma refuses 00:29:35.600 --> 00:29:38.320 to believe that her fame has evaporated. 00:29:39.080 --> 00:29:44.260 Her butler, Max, secretly writes all of the fan mail she receives to maintain the illusion. 00:29:45.060 --> 00:29:50.440 At her New Year's Eve party, Joe realizes that she has fallen in love with him. 00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:55.800 He tries to let her down gently, but Norma slaps him and retreats to her room, distraught. 00:29:56.220 --> 00:30:00.320 Joe visits his friend, Artie Green, and again meets Betty, who thinks a scene 00:30:00.320 --> 00:30:02.100 in one of Joe's scripts has potential. 00:30:02.860 --> 00:30:07.360 When he phones Max to have him pack his things, Max tells him Norma has cut 00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:09.120 her wrists with his razor. 00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:14.420 Joe then returns to Norma, and their relationship becomes sexual. 00:30:14.840 --> 00:30:18.980 Dot, dot, dot. It continues. The two of them sort of circle. 00:30:19.260 --> 00:30:23.000 They have a relationship. It becomes clear that, 00:30:24.550 --> 00:30:30.390 that she is more and more delusional as time goes on and you deal with all the aftermath of it. 00:30:34.070 --> 00:30:39.050 No spoilers for the exact ending, but the last line of the movie is iconic. 00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:43.590 She comes up to the camera and goes, all right, Mr. 00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:49.190 DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up, and approaches the camera and comes straight into her face. 00:30:50.030 --> 00:30:56.030 It was good. Thumbs up. I can see why it's up there. 00:30:56.390 --> 00:31:01.090 Again, for a movie of its time, I say this repeatedly whenever we're talking 00:31:01.090 --> 00:31:04.410 about 40s or 50s movies, it is stylized. 00:31:04.450 --> 00:31:06.510 It is not super realistic. 00:31:06.870 --> 00:31:11.310 The characters are sort of caricatures. But it's okay. 00:31:11.630 --> 00:31:18.050 It gets the point across and you understand what's happening and you get caught 00:31:18.050 --> 00:31:23.290 up in the drama of it and this sort of tragedy of what happens. 00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:27.670 Wikipedia says it's a dark comedy film noir. 00:31:28.870 --> 00:31:37.090 And yeah, it's good. I don't have a lot to say about it, but it does what it's supposed to do, I guess. 00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:45.950 And you do have a few things like, the last line is about Cecil B. 00:31:46.110 --> 00:31:48.530 DeMille. He plays himself in this movie. 00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:52.130 There are a bunch of other people that play himself themselves. 00:31:52.990 --> 00:31:56.130 HB Warner of Warner Brothers plays himself. 00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:02.690 Buster Keaton played himself. There are a few others sort of famous actors and 00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:05.430 directors who show up playing themselves. 00:32:06.630 --> 00:32:12.050 It's good. I mean, it's sort of obviously it's a Hollywood movie about Hollywood 00:32:12.050 --> 00:32:15.190 and it's very self-referential, but that's okay. 00:32:16.450 --> 00:32:20.810 You know, it was good. I like it. It went well. 00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:25.790 Gloria Swanson was Norma Desmond. That's another name that might be recognizable. 00:32:26.410 --> 00:32:29.970 William Holden played Joe Gillis, another name that, you know, 00:32:30.350 --> 00:32:32.130 recognizable. He's been in a bunch of stuff. 00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:35.270 Who else? Jack Webb was in it. 00:32:36.830 --> 00:32:41.210 Those are big names I see here, other than the people playing themselves. 00:32:42.490 --> 00:32:44.970 So, yeah. Have you ever seen this movie? 00:32:45.650 --> 00:32:45.870 No. 00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:47.570 No. Okay. 00:32:47.710 --> 00:32:47.890 No. 00:32:49.050 --> 00:32:54.970 It's definitely, you know, look, if you like 40s and 50s movies, 00:32:54.970 --> 00:32:57.930 this is a good example of 40s and 50s movies. 00:32:58.410 --> 00:33:03.090 If the second it shows up in black and white and with the stylized characters 00:33:03.090 --> 00:33:07.130 that are caricatures, you get turned off, then you're not going to like this either. 00:33:07.430 --> 00:33:11.010 But, you know, there you go. That's all I got to say about that. 00:33:11.630 --> 00:33:16.170 All right. Shall we take a break and then start, like, I don't know. 00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:20.870 Picking a few of these many, many things that we listed at the beginning of the show that happened. 00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:23.170 Yes, many, many wonderful things. 00:33:24.110 --> 00:33:26.850 Wonderful, yeah, okay. Maybe some of them are wonderful. 00:33:27.110 --> 00:33:27.210 Many, many. 00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:32.230 Some of them less so. Okay, let's hit the break. Here we go. 00:34:39.790 --> 00:34:40.970 And we're back. 00:34:41.470 --> 00:34:42.430 And we're back. 00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:47.470 So where do you want to start? We got all of these things. 00:34:47.470 --> 00:34:49.150 Try to look through this list of shit. 00:34:49.310 --> 00:34:53.630 Do we want to just try to lightning round this and like jump out of order? 00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.170 Or do we want to like concentrate on a couple of big things? 00:34:56.930 --> 00:35:01.350 No, no, no. Let's lightning round this. I think, okay, I'm going to start with 00:35:01.350 --> 00:35:05.590 one thing because it's a little bit older subject, but I wasn't, 00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:06.670 I couldn't talk about it. 00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:09.070 The UPS plane crash. Yeah. 00:35:09.350 --> 00:35:09.610 Yes. 00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:15.030 NTSB came out already pretty quickly with a with 00:35:15.030 --> 00:35:19.650 a report confirming what 00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:25.630 some of the initial reports showed a whole bunch of people just saying stupid 00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:31.610 things but bottom line is that before the the preliminary NTSB report which 00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:36.630 confirmed what what basically most people speculated I mean that that. 00:35:38.070 --> 00:35:45.190 Let me change that. People that knew about their shit speculated, okay? 00:35:47.910 --> 00:35:52.630 So UPS flies MD-11s and DC-10s. 00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:56.110 So does FedEx. You know, they're big. 00:35:57.130 --> 00:36:00.010 Good for cargo carrying, okay? 00:36:00.290 --> 00:36:05.870 They've been converted. They've been retrofitted. These aircraft have been heavily 00:36:05.870 --> 00:36:08.450 maintained and updated over time. 00:36:08.750 --> 00:36:17.510 The DC-10 originally had, in the first decade, had a series of accidents that 00:36:17.510 --> 00:36:21.590 made people be afraid of flying it at first. 00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:26.790 Most of the accidents were related to cargo door-related issues. 00:36:27.350 --> 00:36:31.810 Those are the big ones that happened at first, where the design of the cargo 00:36:31.810 --> 00:36:37.370 door failed on a couple of occasions, bringing down, in one case, 00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:39.810 it almost brought down the plane, another one that killed everybody. 00:36:39.810 --> 00:36:47.690 And then a big one that is actually, there was a Sioux City accident where an engine blade failed. 00:36:47.930 --> 00:36:49.890 The engine motor failed. 00:36:50.310 --> 00:36:55.530 The fan blade failed. It was discovered that, you know, it was a crack in it 00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:58.210 that was undetected, and that's why it failed. 00:36:58.750 --> 00:37:01.810 And that's something that actually by the way happened with 00:37:01.810 --> 00:37:05.870 other aircraft and the inspection process on those 00:37:05.870 --> 00:37:09.030 changed over time to be able to detect those 00:37:09.030 --> 00:37:11.750 so the inspection process was better to be 00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:16.290 able to detect that but this accident goes back to something that happened with 00:37:16.290 --> 00:37:21.250 american airlines flight in 1979 in chicago which is a major accident is one 00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:24.490 of the biggest one of the biggest aviation accidents that ever happened was 00:37:24.490 --> 00:37:31.370 a dc-10 american airlines taken off at o'hare it lost an engine when it lost the engine and. 00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:39.110 The airplane very quickly veered off and crashed, and there were no survivors on that flight. 00:37:39.370 --> 00:37:44.470 And it was found to be that American Airlines at the time, 00:37:44.870 --> 00:37:52.010 to do maintenance on the engines, had not been following the book procedure 00:37:52.010 --> 00:37:57.770 exactly to remove those engines and reattach them back to the airplane for an inspection, okay? 00:37:59.090 --> 00:38:06.390 You were supposed to take the engine off, and then the pylons that attach, 00:38:06.530 --> 00:38:09.090 then you remove that from the wing, okay? 00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:15.570 Because there are these pylons, there are these screws, there's a system that holds it. 00:38:15.650 --> 00:38:19.710 You see the little pylon, this thing that sticks out, and you see that's holding 00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:22.750 the damn engine, okay? And then the engine's attached below it. 00:38:23.650 --> 00:38:26.750 You're supposed to take the engine off of it and then remove the pylon. 00:38:27.750 --> 00:38:33.630 American had been removing everything in one piece from the wing. 00:38:33.770 --> 00:38:38.630 What happened was that that was stressing where the engine and the pylon met, 00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:42.150 was causing a lot of stress. It fatigued it. 00:38:42.490 --> 00:38:47.370 The people didn't know that they were doing that. And that's why when that engine 00:38:47.370 --> 00:38:53.570 separated, and at the point that it separated, which is the problem, So it caused it. 00:38:54.870 --> 00:38:59.390 Well, that also uncovered a whole bunch of other things that happened because it made that. 00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:02.870 If I remember the slats retracted, which reduced lift. 00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:07.030 So there was a loss of control. There was a loss of lift on that wing and it 00:39:07.030 --> 00:39:08.290 made the plane uncontrollable. 00:39:08.570 --> 00:39:14.730 And it happened at a moment when it was right at takeoff and crashed the plane. Well, in this case. 00:39:16.240 --> 00:39:20.740 And the pictures, the video kind of showed it that the plane was rolling normally. 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.360 And then at the moment of takeoff, right after it reached the point of no return, 00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:30.280 because there's a speed, reference speed called V1. 00:39:30.600 --> 00:39:35.040 Once you hit V1, it's a speed usually. 00:39:35.220 --> 00:39:41.400 So if you take off, say, at 150 knots, V1 is usually about 120 knots. 00:39:41.520 --> 00:39:44.200 And that's a speed that after that, you can't reject the takeoff. 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.480 You're too far in. you're better off taking off okay 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.280 so they were well past v1 they 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.980 were as a matter of fact when this happened the plane was at 00:39:52.980 --> 00:39:55.960 v2 speed which is this which is the speed at which you rotate 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:02.640 you go and you take off there the plane was rotating as the plane rotated the 00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:09.520 left engine just all of a sudden became unattached and because of the motion 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:14.020 of the engine it's why it unattached in the direction where it turned up. 00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:19.460 Probably because of the pushing from the air, coming from under it, 00:40:19.740 --> 00:40:26.560 pushed it up, and the rotation of the engine made it that it went over the damn MD-11. 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:33.040 It flew over it and fell on the right side of the plane. 00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.040 The way that it detached, it caused a massive fire immediately, 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:43.740 And debris from that engine hit the number two engine, the tail engine, the one at the top. 00:40:44.020 --> 00:40:47.500 So they were screwed. 00:40:48.240 --> 00:40:52.360 It's not like this happened early enough when they could reject the takeoff. 00:40:52.520 --> 00:40:55.360 They were rotating to take off. 00:40:57.420 --> 00:41:02.600 The damn engine came off. It damaged another engine. They were done. 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.180 There's nothing that they could do. 00:41:06.600 --> 00:41:11.720 Analysis, like right now, came back and discovered that there were undiscovered 00:41:11.720 --> 00:41:15.860 cracks in the engine pylon, that it had been developing cracks. 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.060 That plane had been in a heavy maintenance recently ago, a couple of months ago. 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:26.320 So for some reason, they went undetected. Either they went undetected or something 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.600 happened when they reattached it that caused it to crack. Bottom line is they 00:41:29.600 --> 00:41:36.620 grounded the entire fleet until they could figure out why the hell that damn thing cracked. 00:41:37.020 --> 00:41:41.620 But these aircraft have been, they're taken care of very well. 00:41:41.740 --> 00:41:45.440 UPS has a great reputation of maintenance, okay? They don't skimp on shit. 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.580 So whatever the hell it is that happened, it's happened because they didn't know. 00:41:50.580 --> 00:41:56.120 Is something that for some reason went undetected, or they could have been a 00:41:56.120 --> 00:42:02.980 flaw in that pile-on specifically, and the inspection process is not catching it. 00:42:04.080 --> 00:42:08.520 But it definitely, another thing that came up is that apparently during the 00:42:08.520 --> 00:42:11.460 takeoff roll, some master caution alarm went off. 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.340 Not sure exactly at what moment, but it's very likely that it probably happened 00:42:16.340 --> 00:42:21.160 after the speed that they could reject the takeoff. The reality is, if they're rolling. 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.340 They get that master caution. They're looking at all their dials. 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.820 Everything looks normal. 00:42:27.640 --> 00:42:33.180 The procedure you're taught is, listen, which is the one that in norm 99% of 00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:37.500 the cases works because having an engine fail on takeoff or something like that, 00:42:37.740 --> 00:42:42.920 it's not something that it's something that a pilot, it's not routine, 00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:46.840 but it's something that a pilot expects to happen and trains for. 00:42:47.160 --> 00:42:51.380 And the way that you do is that you take off, you will go around, 00:42:51.520 --> 00:42:54.480 you'll dump some fuel, you'll come back and you'll land again 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.260 because the the plane is designed to be able to take 00:42:57.260 --> 00:43:00.640 off with a failed engine okay it should 00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:06.180 be able to without a problem so it's not like you know there was no reason to 00:43:06.180 --> 00:43:11.180 stop a takeoff and the safest and safer thing to do is to do that we've seen 00:43:11.180 --> 00:43:17.640 pilots try to reject takeoffs late man listen you're gonna overrun the runway 00:43:17.640 --> 00:43:18.860 you're gonna crash into shit, 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.380 okay? So that's not an option, okay? 00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:25.000 Once you reach that moment, the reason you do the math on this in order, 00:43:25.240 --> 00:43:26.840 what is the takeoff speed at what time? 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:30.260 You go, it's because once you get there, if you try to stop, 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.960 you will not stop. You're going to go off the end of the runway and crash, okay? 00:43:34.520 --> 00:43:36.180 So you're safer going up. 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:41.860 But they don't, why that fatigue has failed? 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.480 It's up to, like, right now, figure that out. But the reality is that, 00:43:46.680 --> 00:43:49.700 in terms of general passengers being concerned about anything. 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.680 Look, passengers don't fly on MD-11s anymore. 00:43:53.560 --> 00:43:59.240 Nobody's flying on MD-11s. Aren't they doing a check of that entire fleet for 00:43:59.240 --> 00:44:01.400 similar problems? Because it isn't one concern. 00:44:01.540 --> 00:44:08.940 It's just plain age and the inspections weren't finding the type of cracks that 00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:10.540 we're probably developing here. 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:11.000 Probably. 00:44:11.340 --> 00:44:15.500 So they might need better inspections to keep these things running. 00:44:16.290 --> 00:44:22.390 Yeah, that is probably it. But look, there's a lot of old airplanes flying out there, man. 00:44:22.890 --> 00:44:25.930 You know, there's so many old planes flying. 00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:31.570 I mean, I will say that the MD-11s, DC-10s that are flying out there are some 00:44:31.570 --> 00:44:34.030 of the oldest that are out there. 00:44:34.170 --> 00:44:36.770 Now, I will say that I know that FedEx retired. 00:44:37.330 --> 00:44:41.970 They had these, the DC-10s, which they converted. They called them MD-10s. 00:44:41.970 --> 00:44:48.290 And what they did is they actually, they took the old DC-10s that required three, 00:44:48.290 --> 00:44:53.410 they required three crew members. They required a pilot, copilot, and engineer. 00:44:53.730 --> 00:44:57.230 They had converted those so you could operate them with only two. 00:44:57.410 --> 00:44:59.310 Replaced the whole glass cockpit. 00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:04.650 All the avionics got replaced with modern stuff. A lot of upgrades happened 00:45:04.650 --> 00:45:09.430 to these planes. You know, for cargo airlines to take a plane like that, 00:45:09.570 --> 00:45:13.210 that has that kind of capacity and spend money is worth it. 00:45:13.330 --> 00:45:19.070 Because, look, a brand new 777F, okay, you know, brand new freighter, 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:22.650 similar to that, costs $200 million, okay? 00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:29.050 It's not cheap, okay? You could take a 30, 40-year-old MD-11, 00:45:29.290 --> 00:45:34.770 okay, that used, you could probably get for just a couple of million bucks. 00:45:34.770 --> 00:45:38.470 Even if you spend 10 million like refitting 00:45:38.470 --> 00:45:42.010 this thing modern whatever man it's a 00:45:42.010 --> 00:45:45.250 it's a much better proposition than spending right now 200 00:45:45.250 --> 00:45:51.450 million bucks if you can still milk some life out of that airframe okay so you 00:45:51.450 --> 00:45:56.530 know the the oldest ones of these had been retired which are the the md-10s 00:45:56.530 --> 00:46:00.910 the ones that were dc-10s converted to that i know fedex retired them i don't 00:46:00.910 --> 00:46:03.790 think that even UPS flies any of them, but FedEx retired them. 00:46:04.310 --> 00:46:08.290 The MD-11s are a lot newer. MD-11s started flying in the 90s. 00:46:08.970 --> 00:46:12.610 These are not as old as that. 35 years. Well, 35 years. 00:46:12.830 --> 00:46:17.350 They're old, but they're not as old as the, I mean, I remember seeing an MD-10 00:46:17.350 --> 00:46:20.790 that landed when I was plane spotting like a couple of years ago that was like 00:46:20.790 --> 00:46:23.330 40 plus years old, some shit like that. 00:46:23.710 --> 00:46:29.190 You know, it's like, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, that's really old. 00:46:29.270 --> 00:46:34.410 And look, our strategic air, you know, air command, you know, 00:46:34.470 --> 00:46:39.310 we're flying B-52s that were built in the 1950s for God's sakes. Okay. Right. 00:46:39.590 --> 00:46:43.790 You know, age isn't really that big an issue. 00:46:44.050 --> 00:46:47.350 Well, you have this whole ship of Theseus effect, right? 00:46:47.450 --> 00:46:53.950 When you're basically replacing every part of the plane over time. Yeah, absolutely. 00:46:54.390 --> 00:47:00.590 The fucking thing is barely, there's almost nothing original left of the damn airplane. Yeah. Right. 00:47:01.190 --> 00:47:05.710 So, you know, but I felt, you know, the one thing is that, 00:47:07.140 --> 00:47:11.700 Man, I just felt kind of like, I saw it and I saw what happened. 00:47:11.700 --> 00:47:13.280 I was just like, fuck these pilots. 00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:16.680 What a helpless moment. Because usually you're a pilot. You think, 00:47:17.620 --> 00:47:21.120 look, we can do something to save this plane. We'll do something, right? 00:47:22.540 --> 00:47:29.860 And there was nothing they could do. They had no shot. They had no way to save that plane. 00:47:30.380 --> 00:47:36.660 It happened. It's just one of those things when it happens at the wrong thing at the wrong moment. 00:47:37.560 --> 00:47:43.620 Happened exactly with the wrong fucking moment that just left with no way to 00:47:43.620 --> 00:47:45.360 do anything to save the aircraft. 00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:52.180 Which also, in this case, there were a lot of people killed and hurt on the ground as well. 00:47:52.660 --> 00:47:55.300 Most of them that were killed wound up being on the ground. 00:47:55.660 --> 00:47:56.800 Because the crew was small. 00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.000 Yeah, there were only three people on the plane. 00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:00.920 Right. 00:48:01.080 --> 00:48:08.440 Yeah. Look, thank God it didn't hit. But because there is a Ford Motor auto 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.100 plant right by there where apparently a few thousand people worked every day. 00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:13.620 Thank God it didn't hit that. 00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:19.860 But it's not exactly on the flight path, thank God, which I guess is a good 00:48:19.860 --> 00:48:22.480 thing. But look, I mean, we've had... 00:48:25.030 --> 00:48:30.710 You know, planes fly over populated areas regularly. It's a risk. It happens. 00:48:31.350 --> 00:48:35.230 Still never, you know, one of the worst that I always remember that was with 00:48:35.230 --> 00:48:42.250 a cargo plane, an LL-747 that hit a frickin' They had a problem after takeoff. 00:48:42.410 --> 00:48:48.290 It was trying to return to Schiphol, and it hit a fuckin' apartment building. 00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:51.970 Sliced it in half. I mean, you want to talk about the worst, 00:48:52.170 --> 00:48:56.010 you know, what are your worst fuckin' nightmares? is to have a 747 slam into 00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:59.050 a fucking apartment building, of all things. 00:48:59.910 --> 00:49:04.410 I mean, yeah, I mean, it's just unfortunately one of those things. 00:49:04.530 --> 00:49:07.350 But luckily, they don't happen very often, thank God. 00:49:07.770 --> 00:49:11.810 Okay? So a lot of work goes into making sure that that doesn't happen. 00:49:12.490 --> 00:49:15.330 But yeah, but these guys had no shot, unfortunately. 00:49:16.190 --> 00:49:19.090 What happened was totally unexpected. 00:49:20.330 --> 00:49:23.570 And now they're right now yeah we 00:49:23.570 --> 00:49:29.610 know what we know what happened just not why and so until they figure it out 00:49:29.610 --> 00:49:34.470 and i think boeing by the way right now is being very because of all the shit 00:49:34.470 --> 00:49:39.810 that's happened with boeing the last couple of years they've been like yep whatever 00:49:39.810 --> 00:49:43.110 he says and just yeah just. 00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:48.790 Just to be clear even though it's an md for mcdonald douglas they were bought by boeing a long time ago. 00:49:48.790 --> 00:49:53.310 Yeah i mean boeing and mcdonald douglas merged like what the heck was it 25 00:49:53.310 --> 00:49:59.470 26 years ago almost 30 years ago so yeah so these are these are all there may be mcdonald douglas but, 00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:07.990 boeing owns mcdonald douglas so that's all that on them now so right you know i i flew on the dc10 a, 00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:19.540 You know, it felt very spacious inside. I don't know. I always liked just the, here's the thing. 00:50:20.020 --> 00:50:25.440 They used to, airlines used to fly a lot more of these wide bodies on domestic flights. Okay. 00:50:25.580 --> 00:50:29.780 Back then, 70s and 80s. They thought that was the way, and so they had a whole bunch of these. 00:50:29.900 --> 00:50:34.540 And I remember being able to fly a freaking, you know, more ordinary like flights, 00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:39.280 you know, that now you get a 737 on a DC-10. 00:50:39.620 --> 00:50:43.980 And it was, it was awesome. I like that. It's huge. 00:50:44.520 --> 00:50:48.520 But they used to have on American Airlines for a few years, 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:54.880 back in the 80s, they had this camera that was in the cockpit that would on 00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:00.420 the televisions inside the plane would show the departure, would show live video 00:51:00.420 --> 00:51:01.920 of the departure and takeoff. 00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:05.800 Right. Which they turned off after there was an accident that happened. 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.380 It wound up like people, I guess, were watching the accident. 00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:13.360 They were like, I guess, let's just not turn those on. 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.020 Yeah. I mean, now you have those little displays with the map and stuff. 00:51:19.140 --> 00:51:22.360 But, yeah, the cameras are cool. 00:51:22.780 --> 00:51:27.700 The cameras are cool. Airbus actually does a lot more where they actually put 00:51:27.700 --> 00:51:31.020 this camera view that I find that's really cool. 00:51:31.160 --> 00:51:34.800 That's at the top of the stabilizer wing. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.400 Right at the top. So, you get this view, like a video game view of the plane as it's flying. 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:45.600 Nice. And that view is super cool. And you usually select that in the planes 00:51:45.600 --> 00:51:47.580 that have that on the entertainment screen. 00:51:47.620 --> 00:51:50.120 You can pick to watch that view. 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.160 You can see the takeoff and landing and everything of the plane. 00:51:54.260 --> 00:51:55.900 That view is super cool. Okay? 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.800 I got to tell you, that is a super cool view. Yeah. 00:51:59.510 --> 00:52:04.730 If you get on an Airbus, A380s, A330s, A340s, they usually have that. 00:52:04.890 --> 00:52:09.290 If you get on one of those, make sure to pick that view. You will not regret it. You'll love it. 00:52:10.090 --> 00:52:11.750 Okay. Shall we move on? 00:52:12.170 --> 00:52:12.570 Yes. 00:52:13.650 --> 00:52:17.410 Okay. Let me hit these in order. 00:52:18.870 --> 00:52:23.410 We've got things we haven't talked about in previous weeks besides the UPS crash, 00:52:23.430 --> 00:52:25.710 but let's just stick with this week. 00:52:26.050 --> 00:52:28.850 We had the vote on the Epstein files. 00:52:29.750 --> 00:52:33.910 And it was nearly unanimous. It was unanimous in the Senate. 00:52:34.270 --> 00:52:38.050 It was nearly unanimous in the House. I think there was one person who voted against it. 00:52:39.310 --> 00:52:44.390 And I thought it was like, so it was nearly unanimous. Okay. 00:52:45.410 --> 00:52:47.370 Yeah, I think in the end there was one. 00:52:47.370 --> 00:52:50.530 Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. It was like 400 something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:56.070 Yeah, to one. And apparently there was some back and forth. Like, 00:52:56.150 --> 00:52:58.070 did he really mean it? Or was it an accident? 00:52:58.290 --> 00:53:00.710 Or what was going on? But whatever. 00:53:01.510 --> 00:53:06.290 Anyway, bottom line, it was nearly unanimous in the House and it was actually 00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:08.410 passed by unanimous consent in the Senate. 00:53:08.970 --> 00:53:16.830 And look, the deal was that it was clear that they had the numbers and it would 00:53:16.830 --> 00:53:20.490 pass in the House by a very significant margin. 00:53:20.490 --> 00:53:23.350 So Trump a few days before the 00:53:23.350 --> 00:53:26.730 vote just went I don't care vote for 00:53:26.730 --> 00:53:30.730 it I'll sign it I'm for this go ahead and 00:53:30.730 --> 00:53:36.270 clearly he was not actually happy about it but he was in a position where he 00:53:36.270 --> 00:53:41.610 was gonna get absolutely rolled anyway like if he continued his opposition of 00:53:41.610 --> 00:53:47.710 it he was still gonna lose badly so he flipped it up and was like okay no I'm 00:53:47.710 --> 00:53:50.510 for it and as soon as he said that, 00:53:51.450 --> 00:53:57.970 All the Republicans were on board, you know, and so it's. 00:53:57.970 --> 00:54:04.030 It's just it. But, Sam, this is just going to expose the Democrat pedophile ring. 00:54:04.510 --> 00:54:07.450 Right? Oh, yes. Yes. This is only the Democrats. 00:54:07.750 --> 00:54:12.210 Look, here are a couple of things with this that people are talking about now that it's passed. 00:54:12.350 --> 00:54:17.970 First of all, like when this first started being discussed, I had at one point 00:54:17.970 --> 00:54:22.010 said on the show that I thought they were just doing a resolution with no legal force. No, no, no. 00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:26.210 This was an actual law saying you must release this, etc. 00:54:26.850 --> 00:54:30.990 However, there are a bunch of caveats and exceptions. 00:54:31.550 --> 00:54:34.730 And first of all, they give 30 days for the release. 00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:39.890 Second, anything that would affect ongoing investigations is exempt. 00:54:40.250 --> 00:54:44.090 Also, of course, there's instructions to redact anything about the victims, 00:54:44.110 --> 00:54:46.050 which you would expect anyway. 00:54:46.590 --> 00:54:55.110 A bunch of other things. The biggest thing here is that it gives the ongoing 00:54:55.110 --> 00:54:57.070 investigation situation. 00:54:57.790 --> 00:55:03.170 The Trump administration's official line up until about a week and a half ago 00:55:03.170 --> 00:55:06.870 was, we've already examined all this fully. 00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:09.950 There's no potential other cases to examine. 00:55:10.850 --> 00:55:17.050 There's no evidence here that he was blackmailing people. 00:55:17.530 --> 00:55:20.490 There's no other people that we have the evidence to bring to trial, 00:55:20.850 --> 00:55:25.810 etc which, who knows may be true, may not be true who knows, 00:55:25.890 --> 00:55:28.510 but that was the line they had but. 00:55:30.170 --> 00:55:36.430 Then, as it became clear that they were going to lose and this thing was going 00:55:36.430 --> 00:55:39.190 to pass, all of a sudden, Donald Trump 00:55:39.190 --> 00:55:43.770 is, okay, you're going to open an investigation into all the Democrats. 00:55:44.230 --> 00:55:45.870 And Bondi was like, yes, sir. 00:55:45.970 --> 00:55:47.370 Yes, I will. Only the Democrats. 00:55:47.910 --> 00:55:54.490 And only the Democrats. Yes. And and so now there's the potential that after 00:55:54.490 --> 00:55:57.410 the 30 days are up, they'll do something like, well, 00:55:57.630 --> 00:56:03.730 we can't release most of this because it's pertinent to our ongoing investigation of the Democrats. 00:56:04.570 --> 00:56:14.290 I fully expect I fully expect right now for Bondi to do the same thing that she did in February. 00:56:14.950 --> 00:56:16.270 Give out the empty folders. 00:56:16.770 --> 00:56:17.230 Yeah. 00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:21.950 Well, I mean, people have said, you know, one possibility that comes out of 00:56:21.950 --> 00:56:28.310 this is a whole bunch of pages of stuff that is almost 100% redacted gets released. 00:56:28.770 --> 00:56:29.230 Right. 00:56:29.910 --> 00:56:30.950 You know, and... 00:56:32.220 --> 00:56:41.040 I guess part of the calculus here is, look, this ended up with massive bipartisan 00:56:41.040 --> 00:56:44.100 support for transparency and release the files. 00:56:44.380 --> 00:56:49.460 You got things coming out of this with basically the Republicans went back to 00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:54.480 their districts over the long government shutdown break, and they heard from 00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.420 their constituents, their ruby red MAGA constituents, 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.160 release the files. 00:57:01.900 --> 00:57:06.860 And a big part of that is because they want to get that Democratic pedophile ring. 00:57:07.340 --> 00:57:13.420 And they felt like that's one of the main reasons they were into this thing from the beginning. 00:57:13.740 --> 00:57:17.780 It's because they thought Donald Trump would get the Democratic pedophile ring. 00:57:18.200 --> 00:57:22.940 And so what the hell is happening? Release the files and get those folks. 00:57:23.620 --> 00:57:26.360 And they heard that over and over and over from their constituents. 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:32.180 So the question is, if they do try to stonewall and say, well, 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.240 we can't actually release all of it, or what we can release is, you know, 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.880 black pages. Yeah. 00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:42.780 And 90% is covered in black. 00:57:43.260 --> 00:57:49.900 Yeah. You know, the MAGA base is not going to react well to that, you know? 00:57:50.520 --> 00:57:55.000 But they aren't reacting well to it right now. Listen, people, 00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:01.920 listen, there are so many MAGA people that I keep seeing disappointed, defrauded. 00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:07.340 Fuck, I mean, it goes even to the whole, MTG just quit, man. 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.940 Yeah, and we'll talk about her more later probably. 00:58:11.080 --> 00:58:17.820 But my point is that what you keep hearing is complete, utter disappointment. Right. 00:58:19.730 --> 00:58:26.490 They are just completely, you know, there was an article on Epstein's emails, 00:58:26.810 --> 00:58:28.930 I think it was November 13th, okay? 00:58:29.250 --> 00:58:33.630 And they did this thing where they were like mapping, this is in the New York 00:58:33.630 --> 00:58:41.530 Times, they were mapping the name mentions in his emails, the ones that they got. 00:58:41.610 --> 00:58:42.430 Ah, right, yes. 00:58:42.430 --> 00:58:47.450 And it showed that basically when you when you looked at names that were mentioned 00:58:47.450 --> 00:58:55.310 in Epstein's emails, it was like fucking Trump was like overwhelmingly mentioned. 00:58:56.410 --> 00:59:02.850 The one thing I have to say about this is that if you look, the chart showed 00:59:02.850 --> 00:59:04.690 mentions over time as well. 00:59:04.790 --> 00:59:05.110 Yes. 00:59:05.110 --> 00:59:12.870 And what happened is before 2015, there were sporadic mentions of Trump and 00:59:12.870 --> 00:59:19.630 lots of mentions of other people starting 2015 and accelerating into 2016, 17, 18. 00:59:20.730 --> 00:59:25.330 Suddenly, the mentions of Trump exploded. But here's the thing. 00:59:25.670 --> 00:59:27.250 Well, he was running for president. 00:59:27.530 --> 00:59:30.810 He was running for president and then he was president. I mean, 00:59:31.150 --> 00:59:36.010 our mentions of Donald Trump on this show exploded dramatically in 2015 as well. 00:59:36.130 --> 00:59:38.950 No, but but but my I get that. 00:59:39.010 --> 00:59:43.870 And like a lot of a lot of the conversations seem to be around. 00:59:44.570 --> 00:59:49.710 It wasn't just like, oh, we're talking more about Donald Trump because he's more involved. 00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:52.970 It was we're talking about Donald Trump because he's president. 00:59:53.170 --> 00:59:57.790 Now, there was an undertone of and we've got shit on Donald Trump. 00:59:58.670 --> 01:00:04.050 That's what I'm talking about. Because the entire undertone of all of those 01:00:04.050 --> 01:00:06.450 was that we've got the goods on this bastard. 01:00:07.150 --> 01:00:17.510 Right. But the emails that we've seen so far don't actually have the goods. They just talk about... 01:00:17.510 --> 01:00:18.670 But they talk about it. 01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:19.710 Yes. 01:00:20.050 --> 01:00:21.750 Well, listen, I... 01:00:22.810 --> 01:00:27.090 And that's, of course, why there's the push to release everything, 01:00:27.090 --> 01:00:31.470 because this is just the emails that were released by the Epstein estate. 01:00:32.190 --> 01:00:38.950 What the FBI has, theoretically, is everything they got by raiding this guy's 01:00:38.950 --> 01:00:43.170 house, which there's been inventories of them that have been published, 01:00:43.370 --> 01:00:46.150 where there's lots of video recordings. 01:00:46.210 --> 01:00:49.490 Sam, let me ask you a question. There's lots of logs. There's lots of this. There's lots of that. 01:00:49.730 --> 01:00:57.550 I fully—OK. I fully expect that they will stonewall even further. 01:00:57.750 --> 01:01:02.770 Now, the one thing about all the stonewalling, Sam, I mean, Sam, 01:01:03.130 --> 01:01:08.170 I've never seen anybody look more guilty in my life and afraid of something 01:01:08.170 --> 01:01:11.510 coming out than Donald Trump with these Epstein files. 01:01:11.510 --> 01:01:21.230 Because what in all fucking hell if he didn't think that Epstein had him by the balls? 01:01:22.270 --> 01:01:24.090 And apparently it could be literally here. 01:01:26.040 --> 01:01:29.940 What that, why would he be stonewalling this much of it? 01:01:30.300 --> 01:01:36.000 You know, it's like, let me give you my personal example, okay? 01:01:36.140 --> 01:01:39.980 You know, I was over here when I was president of the condo board and all these 01:01:39.980 --> 01:01:44.580 people started accusing that supposedly, you know, a whole bunch of people were 01:01:44.580 --> 01:01:48.400 upset because of a project and they said that I was on the take, 01:01:48.540 --> 01:01:49.800 that I was taking money under the table. 01:01:50.220 --> 01:01:54.040 My whole thing was, here, take the presidency, take all the records, 01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:57.180 here are all the records. Here's everything. 01:01:58.580 --> 01:02:03.240 Go through it. Knock yourself out. Tell me what you find. 01:02:03.900 --> 01:02:09.400 You're a fucking smoking gun. Go through everything. Here's everything. Let me know. 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.940 That's what you do when you're confident that you never did anything. 01:02:14.100 --> 01:02:16.380 That's exactly what you do. You know? 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.800 You just turn over everything. You're like, here, knock yourself out. 01:02:21.180 --> 01:02:25.100 You know? Plus, in an investigation specifically, you know, if you get a subpoena 01:02:25.100 --> 01:02:26.720 for something, like many times, 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:31.340 if they discover some ancillary stuff, but they're looking for X, 01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:36.200 they can't, they can't use that. Okay. 01:02:38.520 --> 01:02:43.980 Except in very rare cases. Okay. They can't, if you're, you can't just go, 01:02:44.100 --> 01:02:45.340 it's not a fishing expedition. 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.200 Okay. Right. You're looking for records. 01:02:48.200 --> 01:02:49.320 You have to be looking for specific things. 01:02:49.700 --> 01:02:52.740 Exactly. You're looking for it that ties this to that. 01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:58.640 You know, you find the other stuff too bad okay you didn't have probable cause 01:02:58.640 --> 01:03:04.260 to look for you can't you can't use it and so forth but so but this i i've never 01:03:04.260 --> 01:03:12.880 seen anybody ever act more guilty than donald trump and scared right i mean that's the. 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.760 Whole theme here and and and also the, 01:03:17.390 --> 01:03:23.650 I'm going to use the word cover-up. The cover-up here has been so blatant and 01:03:23.650 --> 01:03:29.810 so obvious that they've been doing everything they possibly can to avoid this stuff coming out, 01:03:29.970 --> 01:03:34.110 that it's become obvious even to the MAGA faithful. 01:03:34.670 --> 01:03:35.170 Right. 01:03:35.390 --> 01:03:43.310 You know, who are looking for every possible excuse to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt. 01:03:43.530 --> 01:03:46.870 Even they are scratching their heads and going, what's he doing here? 01:03:47.390 --> 01:03:47.910 Right. 01:03:48.390 --> 01:03:57.470 You know, and if we go through these 30 days and then, as everybody seems to 01:03:57.470 --> 01:04:00.950 expect, there's more stonewalling, there's more obfuscation, 01:04:01.290 --> 01:04:05.530 there's more, you know, hey, we're going to release stuff, but it's all redacted. 01:04:05.670 --> 01:04:10.070 Oh, but, oh, look, you see all the Democratic names, but no Republican names. 01:04:10.250 --> 01:04:15.930 If you see all the, it's all, it's all just going to make them look even worse. 01:04:16.590 --> 01:04:17.010 Yeah. 01:04:17.630 --> 01:04:21.890 And, of course, you also have, by the way, you still have all these people on 01:04:21.890 --> 01:04:27.250 the right going, well, how would you feel if Bill Clinton's in there? Fuck him. 01:04:29.330 --> 01:04:38.210 So he's in there. And that's always the guilty hypocrite line, which I always love. 01:04:38.810 --> 01:04:44.610 So, you know, or the guilty hypocrite guy in a cult line. 01:04:45.030 --> 01:04:46.810 One of your guys in there. 01:04:47.390 --> 01:04:50.250 Well, I'm not in a fucking cult, so if my guy's in there and he's guilty, 01:04:50.430 --> 01:04:54.450 fucking send him to jail, asshole. I'm not in a cult. You are! 01:04:56.190 --> 01:04:57.030 Yes, exactly. 01:04:59.150 --> 01:05:01.470 And we keep hearing, like... 01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:07.340 I don't know. We keep hearing more things. We talked on last week's show about 01:05:07.340 --> 01:05:08.620 the whole thing about Bubba. 01:05:09.640 --> 01:05:10.560 Oh, my God. 01:05:11.220 --> 01:05:16.900 The latest I heard from apparently a British— Well. 01:05:16.900 --> 01:05:19.940 It's not Bill Clinton, and it's not a horse, apparently. So what's the latest? 01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:25.620 No, no, no, not about Bubba. The latest thing I heard, there's a British reporter 01:05:25.620 --> 01:05:31.360 saying he had a story that he was going to use for his book or something years 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:35.140 ago, but the publisher wouldn't go with it, but now he's talking about it, 01:05:35.580 --> 01:05:38.380 was apparently he has plenty of evidence that, 01:05:39.140 --> 01:05:40.460 well, yeah. 01:05:41.640 --> 01:05:45.960 It's just another interesting thing that- Plenty of evidence that what? 01:05:46.300 --> 01:05:50.740 A previous girlfriend of Epstein's, in addition to Ghislaine, 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.160 was Melania before she got traded to Trump. 01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:58.120 The fuck? 01:05:59.980 --> 01:06:04.960 Now i have not seen this confirmed by anybody else but it was in like one of the british newspapers, 01:06:07.420 --> 01:06:13.160 and apparently there are quotes in the email about some other one that epstein 01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:20.220 was done with and he said so i gave her to trump yeah but apparently that may 01:06:20.220 --> 01:06:22.020 have happened with melania as well. 01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:24.140 Fucking hell. 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.080 Now, Melania wasn't 13 at the time, but still. 01:06:29.260 --> 01:06:29.440 Still. 01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:32.420 Anyway, this is all messy. 01:06:32.420 --> 01:06:36.000 But you know where this goes, this way of... 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.940 And by the way, like I said, I've heard one reporter talk about this. 01:06:40.060 --> 01:06:43.260 I haven't seen it confirmed, so it may be bullshit. So I just want to say that. 01:06:43.460 --> 01:06:48.780 Listen, this whole theme of talking about women like their property, 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:55.620 okay, is so prevalent amongst the right-wing male. 01:06:55.820 --> 01:07:00.620 Which, and by the way, publicly too, I mean, Donald Trump was talking about, 01:07:00.860 --> 01:07:07.280 you know, how Epstein stole his staff from Mar-a-Lago just a few weeks ago. 01:07:07.460 --> 01:07:13.000 No, but I was thinking the other day, Jesse, I don't know why the fuck I watched 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.760 a clip of Jesse Waters. Okay, all right. 01:07:16.620 --> 01:07:18.440 Oh, yeah, I think I saw this. 01:07:18.520 --> 01:07:21.900 He is such a pig of a 01:07:21.900 --> 01:07:24.980 of a of a of a band there is 01:07:24.980 --> 01:07:28.060 some discussion related to podcasts and some 01:07:28.060 --> 01:07:30.920 podcasts that was first where there was a discussion i 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.660 can't remember exactly is somebody famous and he 01:07:33.660 --> 01:07:36.660 started talking to these are the women that are on the show with him 01:07:36.660 --> 01:07:39.860 okay all right and he started talking to 01:07:39.860 --> 01:07:44.260 them like it was just the most disrespectful 01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:47.920 way to talk about a 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.900 woman or to to talk to a 01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:54.820 woman that i ever see and i'm like thinking holy 01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:58.020 fucking hell how how are 01:07:58.020 --> 01:08:00.800 these women sitting at that desk working with this 01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.560 man and not i mean because if i 01:08:03.560 --> 01:08:07.440 would have been there i would have fucking i 01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:12.000 mean i might have punched him in the face okay because he was that disrespectful 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:19.760 but i realize that this passes as you know whatever fucking dumbass show at 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:26.140 five o'clock in the afternoon they put on fox as normal this is the way to talk to women, 01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:31.020 and i'm just sitting there and i'm like holy shit, 01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:38.100 And it's just this whole entire continuum of how all of these people, 01:08:38.300 --> 01:08:44.560 like the Charlie Kirks and all of these people, talk about and treat women. 01:08:45.240 --> 01:08:49.800 Well, and I think part of it is right-wing. I think part of the culture that 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:54.100 we're talking about, like it's specifically in Epstein circles, are these. Oh, God. 01:08:54.280 --> 01:09:00.520 Not only like many of them right-wing, not all of them, but like mostly rich 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:08.500 white men, right? that are just absolutely entitled and feel that they are owed everything. 01:09:08.700 --> 01:09:13.660 And if they want something, they should get it. Period. End of story. 01:09:14.140 --> 01:09:19.740 And it's not just the rich guys. Look, there's a reason why we have all these incels. 01:09:19.940 --> 01:09:24.360 Okay. The incels believe that they are entitled to fucking sex and the women 01:09:24.360 --> 01:09:28.220 are denying it to them, but they're not the rich billionaires that could just buy it. 01:09:28.220 --> 01:09:29.240 Mm-hmm. 01:09:29.820 --> 01:09:34.480 So you've got this generation. Yes, you've got of the rich guys that do this. 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:40.260 But then you've got the other guys that don't have that money who believe they're entitled to it anyway. 01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:44.560 Yes. It's disastrous. 01:09:45.540 --> 01:09:49.980 But I think what you're seeing, and I don't know. 01:09:49.980 --> 01:09:55.260 I honestly hope that we at some point actually get these, 01:09:55.500 --> 01:10:02.420 a fairly good view of these files, because I think you are going to find that, 01:10:02.420 --> 01:10:09.960 you know, there were probably dozens of these rich, influential men who participated directly. 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:16.120 And then you've probably got hundreds of people that were around and surrounding 01:10:16.120 --> 01:10:21.980 and knew what was going on and just shrugged and did nothing and allowed it to happen. 01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:29.240 Yeah. And that's a lot of what you've got. Yeah. Ah, I, I, I. 01:10:30.670 --> 01:10:35.690 This is not going away anytime soon, Sam. You know, they've tried to make it go away. 01:10:36.030 --> 01:10:39.590 And what they've made it is maybe it's subdued for a little bit. 01:10:39.790 --> 01:10:43.310 And then every time it comes back, it comes back worse. 01:10:44.250 --> 01:10:49.870 Right. I mean, if you remember, you know, we were talking about, 01:10:50.190 --> 01:10:54.890 like, this stuff back in 2016, you know? 01:10:55.010 --> 01:10:55.190 Yeah. 01:10:55.370 --> 01:10:58.870 Before Donald Trump was elected the goddamn first time. 01:11:00.110 --> 01:11:04.210 But it wasn't Epstein directly. It wasn't all Epstein. 01:11:05.050 --> 01:11:09.710 Well, I mean, if you remember that one 13-year, 01:11:09.850 --> 01:11:15.250 that one woman who was putting the lawsuit that said she was raped by Donald 01:11:15.250 --> 01:11:21.350 Trump when she was 13, it was Epstein and Trump that was in that case. 01:11:21.350 --> 01:11:24.790 And then she withdrew the case because she was getting death threats. 01:11:25.780 --> 01:11:29.920 And, you know, look, and so we, we have heard this and there were, 01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:31.680 you know, their interviews, 01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:37.980 there was, you know, recently within the last few weeks, I, somebody reposted 01:11:37.980 --> 01:11:44.600 an audio interview with that woman and I had remembered the case. 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:49.080 I had not remembered hearing the audio of her deposition before. 01:11:49.860 --> 01:11:53.380 And it was absolutely explicit and going into all this detail. 01:11:53.660 --> 01:11:59.580 And it was out in 2016. 01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:03.060 It was out there and it was mostly ignored. 01:12:03.480 --> 01:12:09.300 And there were other examples. There were people who, in various other contexts, 01:12:09.660 --> 01:12:14.060 talked about Donald's exploits and all the things he'd done. 01:12:14.060 --> 01:12:18.300 And then, you know, we had, what was it, like nearly 20 women who explicitly 01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:23.160 came out and accused him of assault before the 2016 election. 01:12:23.940 --> 01:12:28.080 And of course we had to grab him by— But those were—I remember those were adults. Okay. All right. 01:12:28.140 --> 01:12:30.760 Those were adults. I remember that they were adults. With the exception of the 01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:32.120 113-year-old, those were adults. 01:12:32.120 --> 01:12:35.740 The 113— And of course we had to grab him by the pussy. Now this is the next level. 01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:42.840 Yes. Yes. But no, there were even like some interviews out there talking about 01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:48.680 Donald Trump with underage people, even back then, even if, you know, even if there were some. 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.880 No, no, no, we talked. We had heard the stuff about him walking into the beauty 01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:57.820 pageants with the teenage girls undressed and all this other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:07.540 And, you know, collectively, you know, enough Americans didn't give a shit that he became president. 01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:10.440 And twice now, twice now. 01:13:11.480 --> 01:13:13.600 So, but I think you're right. It's not going away. 01:13:14.320 --> 01:13:21.280 Well, the thing is that a big portion of the MAGA contingent believed that all 01:13:21.280 --> 01:13:28.660 of that was BS, but that the Democrats were running a pedophile ring out of, you know, 01:13:28.780 --> 01:13:33.040 out of a pizza joint in Washington, D.C. 01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:36.700 Yes, absolutely. Okay. 01:13:37.480 --> 01:13:47.480 It's amazing how they will ignore the factually documented shit right in front 01:13:47.480 --> 01:13:49.500 of their face, but will make up, 01:13:49.700 --> 01:13:55.240 will go through every contortion to try to make up some alternate reality that fits their story. 01:13:56.120 --> 01:13:59.040 Indeed. Okay. Your turn. 01:13:59.300 --> 01:14:00.260 Another happy subject. 01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:03.340 Should we take a break and do another two since we've taken this much time? Sure. 01:14:03.340 --> 01:14:05.300 Or should you want to do two more and then a break? No, no, no, 01:14:05.300 --> 01:14:08.180 no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, yeah, no, go, go, go. Yeah, let's take a break. 01:14:08.340 --> 01:14:09.800 Okay, here comes a break. 01:14:59.630 --> 01:14:59.890 OK. 01:15:00.230 --> 01:15:00.750 All right. 01:15:00.950 --> 01:15:03.670 We're back. So let's do two more. Another break, then two more, then be done. 01:15:04.730 --> 01:15:09.930 Comey. Hey, how's that case going? It is, is, is, you know, look, 01:15:10.150 --> 01:15:12.830 is Lindsay Halligan apparently a crack attorney? 01:15:12.990 --> 01:15:15.810 She seems to be really, really good, right? 01:15:16.090 --> 01:15:18.750 She did everything by the book, right? 01:15:19.330 --> 01:15:26.110 Yes, of course. She's she's crushing it. But I mean, the case hasn't been dismissed 01:15:26.110 --> 01:15:31.050 yet, but it seems like every other day they find something else wrong with it. 01:15:31.690 --> 01:15:36.190 Like, you know, we know that they were, you know, they're trying to dismiss 01:15:36.190 --> 01:15:38.590 it on the grounds that she was appointed inappropriately. 01:15:38.810 --> 01:15:42.250 They're trying to dismiss it on the grounds that this is selective prosecution. 01:15:42.250 --> 01:15:48.390 Both of those are in play because it looks clear that both of those things are 01:15:48.390 --> 01:15:51.090 true. She was, she was not appointed legally. 01:15:51.350 --> 01:15:54.070 And so therefore anything she did is probably void. 01:15:55.470 --> 01:16:01.250 And there's lots of clear evidence that there are lots of similar cases out 01:16:01.250 --> 01:16:02.750 there that they're not going after. 01:16:03.510 --> 01:16:06.730 And Donald Trump specifically called for this. 01:16:06.890 --> 01:16:11.030 And it's like, you know, selective prosecution is apparently really, 01:16:11.190 --> 01:16:15.770 really, really hard to prove. But like in this case, you've got a lot of the 01:16:15.770 --> 01:16:19.570 key players basically saying so out loud that that's what they're doing. 01:16:20.350 --> 01:16:26.930 And then the latest thing is apparently they neglected to actually pass the 01:16:26.930 --> 01:16:29.550 final version of the indictment past the grand jury. 01:16:29.910 --> 01:16:30.510 Right. 01:16:30.930 --> 01:16:35.790 Like what happened was they gave a copy of the indictment with three counts to the grand jury. 01:16:35.990 --> 01:16:39.470 The grand jury said no to one of the three counts. 01:16:40.390 --> 01:16:45.270 But what you're supposed to do, apparently, is then resubmit the indictment 01:16:45.270 --> 01:16:48.510 with only the two counts and have them vote on that. 01:16:48.730 --> 01:16:53.050 But I also thought that they made changes to the other two, to one of the other 01:16:53.050 --> 01:16:56.870 two counts as well, on top of the fact that they fucking resubmitted it. 01:16:56.950 --> 01:17:02.130 So therefore, it's like, whatever, you didn't present the fucking charges back 01:17:02.130 --> 01:17:04.470 to the grand jury to approve. 01:17:05.330 --> 01:17:11.590 That appears to be the case. And so they basically just treated it as, 01:17:12.110 --> 01:17:17.530 you know, oh, well, on the first time around, they voted no for this one, but yes, on these two. 01:17:18.130 --> 01:17:22.610 So therefore, we can just go ahead and submit the one with these two, and it's not a big deal. 01:17:22.990 --> 01:17:26.450 It is a big deal. They didn't follow the procedures, which, by the way, 01:17:26.530 --> 01:17:31.710 this is also why, if you remember, when this was first submitted to the judge, 01:17:31.910 --> 01:17:34.230 they accidentally submitted the one with three. 01:17:34.750 --> 01:17:38.530 As well as the one with two. And the judge is like, what the hell is this? 01:17:38.650 --> 01:17:40.750 Why do I have two? And why are they different? 01:17:41.470 --> 01:17:41.730 Right. 01:17:42.050 --> 01:17:47.810 Well, and apparently this is why. And so the final version of the indictment 01:17:47.810 --> 01:17:50.090 was not actually approved by the grand jury. 01:17:50.310 --> 01:17:55.790 Apparently it was signed off on by the foreman, but that's not what you're supposed to do. 01:17:56.110 --> 01:18:00.350 You need the whole grand jury to vote on the actual indictment that's being presented. 01:18:00.530 --> 01:18:06.430 And apparently that didn't happen. So this just adds yet another layer of the 01:18:06.430 --> 01:18:08.290 things that they've done wrong on this. 01:18:08.410 --> 01:18:13.610 And by the way, a whole bunch of these, you know, the first two that I mentioned 01:18:13.610 --> 01:18:19.050 also applied to the Letitia James case. 01:18:19.370 --> 01:18:22.310 The last one was specific to the Comey case. 01:18:22.470 --> 01:18:28.150 But also there's some additional questions about who is actually present when 01:18:28.150 --> 01:18:33.730 in the grand jury and whether there was a gap in the transcripts that wasn't 01:18:33.730 --> 01:18:36.190 supposed to be there of what happened to the grand jury. 01:18:36.910 --> 01:18:42.050 There are a couple of incidents they've mentioned where apparently whoever was 01:18:42.050 --> 01:18:46.930 talking, whether it was what's-her-name or somebody else, actually misrepresented 01:18:46.930 --> 01:18:49.310 the law in a certain case. 01:18:49.310 --> 01:18:53.890 Oh, that's right. I also saw that, yes, that they actually misrepresented the law as well, yes. 01:18:54.070 --> 01:18:59.450 And then there's one place where they said, now, don't worry if you don't see 01:18:59.450 --> 01:19:01.450 all the evidence and what we're showing you. 01:19:01.770 --> 01:19:04.270 Trust us, we have a lot more than we're showing you. 01:19:04.650 --> 01:19:12.670 Um that's all no you know that's all the other no no so yes thing after thing 01:19:12.670 --> 01:19:15.670 after thing after thing that they're doing wrong um, 01:19:16.710 --> 01:19:22.330 You know, these things are going to get dismissed. They will not make it to trial. 01:19:23.030 --> 01:19:27.830 It's amazing. And frankly, they will be lucky, you know, if they don't come 01:19:27.830 --> 01:19:31.350 out of this with like without losing their bar licenses. 01:19:31.910 --> 01:19:34.030 I don't think they're going to be that lucky, Sam. 01:19:36.290 --> 01:19:44.530 Look, almost every lawyer that Trump has forced to do shit like this has wound up being the spark. 01:19:45.470 --> 01:19:48.090 There has been a long trail of those yes. 01:19:48.090 --> 01:19:51.250 Yeah i mean these people like 01:19:51.250 --> 01:19:55.470 somebody said that they have decided that in order to go to be at the altar 01:19:55.470 --> 01:20:00.530 of trump they've decided to just go and like basically just burn their fucking 01:20:00.530 --> 01:20:08.590 bar license in service of trump but and you know they're going to wind up like, you know, 01:20:09.050 --> 01:20:11.190 what's his name? Fucking Giuliani. 01:20:13.430 --> 01:20:17.890 Yes. One of many. But yes, Giuliani is one of those. 01:20:18.010 --> 01:20:21.370 Where all his assets are being auctioned, where everybody is after him, 01:20:21.390 --> 01:20:24.030 where he is just completely, you know, living up. 01:20:24.170 --> 01:20:27.370 You know, he's not, he's not destitute as far as I can tell, 01:20:27.510 --> 01:20:30.550 but he's not living it up as he used to be. 01:20:30.670 --> 01:20:33.530 That's for damn sure. He is under siege. 01:20:33.730 --> 01:20:39.430 He is probably the most. He is perhaps the most dramatic fall from grace of 01:20:39.430 --> 01:20:43.670 all of these people because, you know, he was America's mayor and all this after 9-11. 01:20:44.030 --> 01:20:50.310 And, you know, and then over the course of time since then, by by hooking his 01:20:50.310 --> 01:20:53.950 star to Donald Trump, he's completely destroyed his reputation. 01:20:55.560 --> 01:21:00.900 You know, hell, even among mega people, like they don't have a high opinion 01:21:00.900 --> 01:21:02.480 of Rudy Giuliani at this point. 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:02.840 No, no. 01:21:02.940 --> 01:21:05.680 Because he's proven himself to be an utter clown. 01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:06.560 Yep. 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:12.840 You know, and part of this, I think part of this is age related, 01:21:13.140 --> 01:21:15.040 to be honest, with Giuliani as well. 01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:19.680 Like he does not have the same faculties he did a couple decades ago. 01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:21.780 But also it's just like. Oh, but come on. 01:21:21.900 --> 01:21:23.820 He's just another fucking. 01:21:23.980 --> 01:21:24.100 He's just an asshole. 01:21:24.100 --> 01:21:27.040 He's yeah he's just another grifter like 01:21:27.040 --> 01:21:30.520 all of these are you know they're all 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:37.920 the same it's so fucked up it's all the same shit you know he he thought that 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:44.600 he could make you know he was a partner at a major law firm making millions 01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:50.340 of dollars for basically doing jack shit nothing Just putting his name under on their fucking, 01:21:50.340 --> 01:21:52.940 you know, roster of attorneys. 01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:58.520 It lifted prestige. That's it. And for that, he made 4 million, 5 million a year. 01:21:58.660 --> 01:22:02.300 He burned that to the, he burned that to the ground for what? 01:22:04.260 --> 01:22:08.280 You know, he made millions of consulting and whatever. Now he's just, 01:22:08.460 --> 01:22:10.420 nope, who's going to hire him? Nobody hires him. 01:22:11.400 --> 01:22:12.680 No. No. No. 01:22:13.420 --> 01:22:17.440 But Trump did pardon him, I guess, right? Finally Trump did finally pardon him. 01:22:17.820 --> 01:22:19.980 I thought I heard that recently. Yeah. 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.260 I thought that recently. Look it up. I hadn't heard that. 01:22:24.540 --> 01:22:25.820 You know, and you know. 01:22:25.900 --> 01:22:30.700 Most of his stuff is civil anyway. It's not like he was under. 01:22:30.700 --> 01:22:33.300 Yeah, no, no, no. But no, no, no. Obviously that can't discharge that. 01:22:33.300 --> 01:22:39.460 But, yeah, on November 10th, Trump partners Rudy Giuliani, another of key figures, allegedly. 01:22:39.740 --> 01:22:43.440 So he decided involved to overturn the 2020 election. 01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:47.720 So, you know, he did give him a pardon. But, of course, that doesn't help him 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:48.660 with the financial issues. 01:22:49.240 --> 01:22:51.020 But he finally gave him a pardon. 01:22:52.040 --> 01:22:54.620 Was he actually in Sidney Powell? 01:22:54.620 --> 01:22:56.900 Was he under any federal? 01:22:57.220 --> 01:23:00.220 Are these preemptive? Or was he actually under federal indictment? 01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:03.880 Well, he had been under investigation in the past. He wasn't under indictment, 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:06.080 but I guess he gave him one of these preemptive pardons. 01:23:06.340 --> 01:23:09.540 Well, and I know there were various state efforts that included him, 01:23:09.660 --> 01:23:10.400 but that's a different ballgame. 01:23:10.400 --> 01:23:11.460 Too. Yeah, but that doesn't. 01:23:11.500 --> 01:23:11.760 Yeah. 01:23:12.280 --> 01:23:15.460 Yeah. So, yeah. 01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:21.700 So, he did do that for him. Gave him a pardon. Doesn't really help that much 01:23:21.700 --> 01:23:24.180 because he didn't really have any federal charges, but... 01:23:25.470 --> 01:23:29.010 Okay. We were talking about Comey, right? Yeah. 01:23:31.810 --> 01:23:35.910 But it's this whole thing. But the whole thing is, you know, again, it goes back. 01:23:35.990 --> 01:23:39.690 The reason I mentioned Giuliani is because all these people keep shredding a 01:23:39.690 --> 01:23:43.050 bar license to go and do Trump's bidding. 01:23:43.330 --> 01:23:48.090 And Lindsey Halligan and whoever the hell. So the people are going to be up 01:23:48.090 --> 01:23:51.290 the bat. They're going to shred their bar licenses. 01:23:51.290 --> 01:23:55.150 Another example that I don't think is going to last long, but it was just reported 01:23:55.150 --> 01:24:02.590 in the last 48 hours that another portion of the DOJ was actually investigating 01:24:02.590 --> 01:24:07.810 the folks that were going after all these people for mortgage fraud, 01:24:07.810 --> 01:24:15.370 for having improperly brought on board people to the investigations who weren't authorized to do so. 01:24:15.850 --> 01:24:23.490 Now, I suspect, you know, this is some, you know, career person in the DOJ who's 01:24:23.490 --> 01:24:28.590 trying to actually do their job the way it used to, the way it was supposed to be done, right? 01:24:29.130 --> 01:24:35.230 We're going to just end that. Following the law, that ends now. 01:24:35.550 --> 01:24:40.250 They will be fired. As soon as we find out about it. I'm surprised they have not already been fired. 01:24:40.670 --> 01:24:46.590 They will be gone. These investigations will be over because the thing that's 01:24:46.590 --> 01:24:53.730 absolutely clear is the Trump DOJ is intended to operate under his direct command 01:24:53.730 --> 01:24:56.310 to go after the people he wants to have gone after. 01:24:56.710 --> 01:24:58.910 End of story. End of story. 01:24:59.590 --> 01:25:04.630 And they should, you know, any time they're going after somebody that Trump 01:25:04.630 --> 01:25:09.550 actually likes, those people are getting fired, regardless of whether the thing 01:25:09.550 --> 01:25:13.090 they're going after has any merit or not. That is not part of the equation. 01:25:13.250 --> 01:25:15.210 That has no bearing on it. 01:25:15.790 --> 01:25:16.390 So... 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:19.720 Anything else on this, or it's my turn now? 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.020 It's your turn now. 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:26.380 Okay. Let's talk about this Ukrainian peace deal thing. 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.180 Oh, come on, man. The Ukrainian peace deal. 01:25:30.340 --> 01:25:35.960 It's, what, another fucking joke? 01:25:36.180 --> 01:25:38.840 I mean, all of these are a joke. 01:25:39.240 --> 01:25:44.560 There is no peace deal. This is a Ukrainian capitulation document. 01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:48.740 Essentially, yes. I mean, the key elements. 01:25:49.300 --> 01:25:55.660 Now, the one thing I will say for it is it does include one element that you 01:25:55.660 --> 01:25:58.500 and I have said might be part of any ceasefire, 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:04.780 which is the Russians have agreed that the territorial concessions to Russia 01:26:04.780 --> 01:26:10.640 will just recognize the facts on the ground and not the legal claim. 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:16.180 So that it says we'll freeze the lines of combat. 01:26:16.300 --> 01:26:17.800 The lines of combat where they are. 01:26:18.020 --> 01:26:23.160 Right. And any further discussion of this has to happen through diplomatic means, not through force. 01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:28.820 But it doesn't require the Ukrainians to give up their claim to that territory. 01:26:29.740 --> 01:26:33.960 That's the one thing that I can say is a slight concession because the Russians 01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:38.160 previously had wanted the Ukrainians to outright just give them the territory. 01:26:38.980 --> 01:26:45.120 Yeah, but come on, man. Look, they've occupied Crimea for like a decade. 01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:51.720 And, you know, like that is, you know, I mean, the Russians are not going to 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:57.280 give up anything back like that once they have it. So it's just, you know, whatever. 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.700 There were a couple of other things that were positive. And look, 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:06.380 there was this one part where apparently the deal had something where Russian 01:27:06.380 --> 01:27:10.980 assets that were foreign could be given to Ukraine in order for them to rebuild. 01:27:11.220 --> 01:27:14.860 There was like a substantial amount of money discussed in there over $100 billion 01:27:14.860 --> 01:27:18.680 of frozen assets that could be used by Ukraine. 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:22.100 This is typical, of course, for Donald Trump deals where he thinks like, 01:27:22.240 --> 01:27:25.660 just pay them, undoes everything, you know. 01:27:26.660 --> 01:27:32.020 But but that was that was in there. But other than that, I mean, it's just now, man. 01:27:32.100 --> 01:27:37.580 Well, I mean, it's full of things like NATO promises that Ukraine will never be part of NATO. 01:27:38.340 --> 01:27:41.940 Right. And they're supposed to put I can't remember something in the Constitution, 01:27:42.320 --> 01:27:46.100 barring them from stuff. It's just from attempting it. 01:27:46.440 --> 01:27:52.020 And caps on the size of the military and and and restriction on NATO can't put 01:27:52.020 --> 01:27:53.800 forces in Ukraine either. 01:27:54.140 --> 01:27:54.320 Right. 01:27:54.580 --> 01:28:00.160 Right. All kinds of stuff like that. It basically says if Russia wanted to, 01:28:00.300 --> 01:28:02.080 at some point, try again, 01:28:03.820 --> 01:28:05.420 They're making sure that Ukraine 01:28:05.420 --> 01:28:09.740 would not be in a position to defend themselves a second time there. 01:28:09.900 --> 01:28:13.560 Now, it does say Ukraine can apply for EU membership. 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:16.800 So it does have that. Not NATO, but EU. 01:28:17.860 --> 01:28:20.620 There are also a thing about security guarantees. But listen, 01:28:20.740 --> 01:28:27.140 this deal is very one sided and just it's just one thing I saw. 01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:32.540 One thing I saw actually since we started the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh, of course. 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.420 I just want to say this. I saw this out of the 28 points. 01:28:39.660 --> 01:28:44.160 I saw this one posted right when we were starting the show. 01:28:44.300 --> 01:28:48.340 And I probably should verify this, but what the hell? 01:28:48.700 --> 01:28:50.980 If this is wrong, I'm sure somebody will correct me. 01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:58.420 Point 27 apparently is structured specifically for Donald Trump. 01:28:58.700 --> 01:29:00.220 I don't think this is real. 01:29:00.660 --> 01:29:02.880 I don't think this is real. So I shouldn't say it. 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:03.860 I don't, no. 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.760 I don't, I'm looking at it. I know the Peace Council things. 01:29:07.780 --> 01:29:12.740 It sounds, it sounds, I thought I had read the point, yes. 01:29:12.740 --> 01:29:16.240 Let's do, let me bring up the Axios version of this that I mean. 01:29:16.540 --> 01:29:20.180 All of these powers continue forever, even after he leaves office? 01:29:20.740 --> 01:29:23.960 Well, what they what they're doing is setting up a commission, 01:29:24.220 --> 01:29:27.480 an independent commission that just happens to be headed by Donald Trump that 01:29:27.480 --> 01:29:28.420 makes a bunch your decisions. 01:29:28.900 --> 01:29:32.120 Let me look up the, like I said, I'm going to look up Axios. 01:29:32.320 --> 01:29:34.380 Hold on. Hold on. Give me a minute. 01:29:34.980 --> 01:29:35.780 Beep boop, beep boop. 01:29:36.830 --> 01:29:39.990 Uh here we go okay here 01:29:39.990 --> 01:29:43.410 here is axios put trump's 01:29:43.410 --> 01:29:51.670 full 28 point ukraine russia peace plan and so let's see you're kidding me i 01:29:51.670 --> 01:29:57.370 i saw more of this here now now i'm hitting a paywall i didn't hit the paywall 01:29:57.370 --> 01:30:02.570 the first time i looked at this damn thing let me see peace plan blah blah blah. 01:30:03.370 --> 01:30:04.370 It is on. 01:30:05.090 --> 01:30:13.050 What's the name of the thing yeah okay the article in Axios Trump's full 28 01:30:13.050 --> 01:30:17.570 point Ukraine Russia peace plan I'll look it up in Apple News too at the same 01:30:17.570 --> 01:30:20.110 time you'll probably get to it for faster. 01:30:21.270 --> 01:30:29.750 28 point oh wait here we go Trump's full 28 point Ukraine peace plan here you 01:30:29.750 --> 01:30:33.570 go I'll send you the Ah! It crashed! 01:30:33.990 --> 01:30:40.570 Okay, I've got it in front of me. Okay, here are the 28 points. 01:30:41.690 --> 01:30:45.030 Doo, doo, doo. Same from the future here. 01:30:45.230 --> 01:30:50.370 I am about to embark on reading all 28 points of this thing. 01:30:50.810 --> 01:30:54.830 And it's not even the actual like text, text. 01:30:55.010 --> 01:30:59.610 It's like a summary of them. But anyway, it ended up taking about six and a 01:30:59.610 --> 01:31:01.870 half minutes for me to do so. 01:31:02.110 --> 01:31:04.970 And then afterwards, Yvonne and I started talking about how, 01:31:05.110 --> 01:31:08.430 well, actually, maybe that was a little bit excessive. Maybe I didn't need to do all that. 01:31:08.810 --> 01:31:14.790 Maybe I should go back and insert something to tell you guys to, 01:31:15.250 --> 01:31:20.330 you know, if you normally listen at 1x speed, maybe go to 1.5. 01:31:20.470 --> 01:31:24.310 If you normally listen at 1.5, maybe go to 2x. 01:31:24.530 --> 01:31:29.990 If you normally listen at 2x, I don't know, maybe just skip the whole six and a half minutes. 01:31:30.170 --> 01:31:33.130 Maybe just skip the whole six and a half minutes anyway. I don't know. 01:31:33.470 --> 01:31:34.810 Anyway, we talk about the 28 01:31:34.810 --> 01:31:38.470 points, but like, yeah, most of the discussion is after I read them all. 01:31:38.550 --> 01:31:43.910 And that's, you know, six and a half minutes of your time that you could like speed up or whatever. 01:31:44.630 --> 01:31:49.850 Ivana actually suggested that I just go ahead and preemptively speed up the 01:31:49.850 --> 01:31:55.090 six and a half minutes to make it take a lot less time, you know, 01:31:55.390 --> 01:31:57.110 do like the chipmunk effect and stuff. 01:31:57.290 --> 01:32:02.390 I said, no, I wasn't going to do that. But I did agree in the end to put in 01:32:02.390 --> 01:32:06.130 this little notice before I do the 28. 01:32:06.370 --> 01:32:11.210 Of course, I'm rambling so long that you could have just listened to the six and a half minutes. 01:32:11.550 --> 01:32:13.690 I mean, not quite, but close. 01:32:14.130 --> 01:32:17.890 Anyway, you have been warned. Do, do, do! 01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:19.300 All right. 01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:27.060 Number one, Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed. As I can lose my ability to speak. 01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:30.380 Number one, Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed. 01:32:31.060 --> 01:32:35.780 Number two, a comprehensive non-aggression agreement will be concluded between 01:32:35.780 --> 01:32:37.200 Russia, Ukraine, and Europe. 01:32:37.580 --> 01:32:40.840 All ambiguities of last 30 years will be considered settled. 01:32:41.100 --> 01:32:45.440 Now, this is one of those things, by the way, a comprehensive agreement will be concluded. 01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:50.920 This is not the comprehensive agreement, right? This This is all like vaporware. Number three. 01:32:51.280 --> 01:32:55.200 This is like a letter of intent, basically, is what you've got here. 01:32:55.500 --> 01:32:59.880 Number three, it is expected that Russia will not invade neighboring countries 01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:01.640 and NATO will not expand further. 01:33:02.620 --> 01:33:07.400 Number four, a dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, 01:33:07.620 --> 01:33:12.740 mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions 01:33:12.740 --> 01:33:17.160 for de-escalation in order to ensure global security and increase opportunities. 01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:18.500 That's another letter of intent. 01:33:18.500 --> 01:33:21.200 The disagreement will be legally binding. Okay, by the way, yeah. 01:33:21.860 --> 01:33:23.960 Don't jump ahead. Let me give all 28. 01:33:24.180 --> 01:33:25.940 All right, fine, fine. 01:33:26.100 --> 01:33:30.480 Fine. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees. 01:33:31.820 --> 01:33:35.180 Specifically, the U.S. and its NATO allies would treat an attack on Ukraine 01:33:35.180 --> 01:33:38.720 as an attack on the entire transatlantic community, which is interesting because 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.080 that's essentially what NATO membership would give. 01:33:41.780 --> 01:33:46.740 Number six, the size of the Ukrainian armed forces will be limited to 600,000 01:33:46.740 --> 01:33:50.300 compared to their 850,000 or so that they actually have right now. 01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:55.700 Seven, Ukraine agrees to enshrine in its constitution that it will not join 01:33:55.700 --> 01:33:59.800 NATO, and NATO agrees to include in its statutes a provision that Ukraine will 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:01.180 not be admitted in the future. 01:34:01.660 --> 01:34:05.440 Eight, NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine. Right. 01:34:06.160 --> 01:34:09.860 Nine, European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland. 01:34:10.400 --> 01:34:15.280 Ten, the U.S. guarantee. The U.S. will receive compensation for the guarantee. 01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:20.220 If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose the guarantee. If Russia invades Ukraine, 01:34:20.400 --> 01:34:25.400 in addition to a decisive coordinated military response, all global sanctions will be reinstated. 01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:29.200 Recognition of the new territory and all other benefits of the deal will be revoked. 01:34:29.580 --> 01:34:34.180 If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg without cause, 01:34:34.180 --> 01:34:37.280 The security guarantee will be deemed invalid. 01:34:38.100 --> 01:34:43.400 Eleven, Ukraine is eligible for EU membership and will receive short-term preferential 01:34:43.400 --> 01:34:44.900 access to the European market. 01:34:45.340 --> 01:34:49.180 Twelve, a powerful global package of measures to rebuild Ukraine, 01:34:49.500 --> 01:34:52.800 including but not limited to the creation of a Ukraine development fund. 01:34:52.980 --> 01:34:55.980 The United States will cooperate with Ukraine to jointly rebuild, 01:34:56.140 --> 01:35:01.700 modernize, and operate Ukraine's gas infrastructure, join efforts to rehabilitate war-affected areas, 01:35:02.140 --> 01:35:05.160 infrastructure development, extraction of minerals and natural resources, 01:35:05.160 --> 01:35:08.200 and the World Bank will develop a special financing package. 01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:13.900 Number 13, Russia will be reintegrated into global economy, lifting of sanctions, 01:35:14.580 --> 01:35:18.240 a long-term economic cooperation agreement with the U.S., and Russia will be 01:35:18.240 --> 01:35:19.620 invited to rejoin the G8. 01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:23.200 Number 14, frozen funds will be used as follows. 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:28.940 $100 billion in frozen assets to be invested in U.S.-led efforts to rebuild and invest in Ukraine. 01:35:29.180 --> 01:35:34.120 The U.S. will receive 50% of the profits from the venture, of course. Of course. 01:35:35.040 --> 01:35:39.620 Wait, no. Wait, no. Donald Trump will receive 50% of the profits. 01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:40.320 What are you talking about? 01:35:41.300 --> 01:35:44.740 Europe will add $100 billion to increase the amount of investment available. 01:35:44.900 --> 01:35:46.420 Frozen European funds will be unfrozen. 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:50.620 15, a joint American-Russian working group on security issues. 01:35:51.240 --> 01:35:56.320 16, Russia will enshrine and allot its policy of non-aggression towards Europe and Ukraine. 01:35:56.900 --> 01:36:00.940 17, United States and Russia will agree to extend the validity of treaties on 01:36:00.940 --> 01:36:02.940 the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. 01:36:03.500 --> 01:36:06.340 Eighteen, Ukraine agrees to be a non-nuclear state. 01:36:07.040 --> 01:36:13.240 Number 19, the Zafirina, however you say that, nuclear power plant will be launched 01:36:13.240 --> 01:36:15.740 under the supervision of IAEA. 01:36:16.260 --> 01:36:19.340 Electricity produced will be distributed equally between Russia and Ukraine. 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.580 Twenty, both countries undertake to implement educational programs in schools 01:36:23.580 --> 01:36:25.480 and society and get promoting understanding. 01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:32.200 Twenty-one. So look, most of these points, by the way, are either just. 01:36:34.250 --> 01:36:37.790 Diplomatic gobbledygook, like we'll have a commission, we'll talk about whatever, 01:36:38.230 --> 01:36:39.730 letter of intent kind of stuff. 01:36:40.310 --> 01:36:45.170 There are a few that aren't, that seem fairly innocuous and potentially positive. 01:36:45.410 --> 01:36:54.110 The key ones about, they're not necessarily mechanisms in place to really enforce 01:36:54.110 --> 01:36:58.710 some of these and distinctly limiting Ukraine's ability to defend itself. 01:36:58.870 --> 01:37:00.630 Anyway, 21. Territories. 01:37:01.550 --> 01:37:08.750 Crimea, Lushank, and Donetsk will be recognized as de facto Russian, including by the U.S. 01:37:09.490 --> 01:37:12.890 Kirsten and Zafiriza will be frozen along the lines of contact, 01:37:13.110 --> 01:37:15.690 which will mean de facto recognition along the lines of contact. 01:37:16.150 --> 01:37:20.330 Russia will relinquish other agreed territories it controls outside of the five. 01:37:20.670 --> 01:37:25.250 Ukrainian forces will withdraw from the part of Donetsk oblast that they currently control. 01:37:25.730 --> 01:37:28.850 Withdrawal zone will be considered a neutral demilitarized buffer. 01:37:30.970 --> 01:37:34.670 Number 22, after agreeing on future territorial arrangements, 01:37:34.910 --> 01:37:39.450 both the Russian Federation and Ukraine undertake not to change these arrangements by force. 01:37:39.610 --> 01:37:44.810 Any security guarantees will not apply in the event of a breach of this commitment. 01:37:46.050 --> 01:37:52.250 The key element here is they're agreeing to de facto control, but not de jure. 01:37:52.570 --> 01:37:54.590 So Ukraine is not giving up its claims. 01:37:55.230 --> 01:38:00.590 23, Russia will not prevent Ukraine from using the Dnieper River for commercial activities. 01:38:00.810 --> 01:38:04.710 Number 24, humanitarian committee will be established to resolve outstanding 01:38:04.710 --> 01:38:08.390 issues like prisoners, detainees, family reunification. 01:38:08.790 --> 01:38:11.830 Number 25, Ukraine will hold elections in 100 days. 01:38:12.310 --> 01:38:16.670 Number 26, all parties involved in this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions. 01:38:17.330 --> 01:38:20.890 And I'll skip 27 because that's the key one that we were talking about. 01:38:20.990 --> 01:38:24.170 28, once all parties agree to this memorandum, we'll take effect immediately. 01:38:24.590 --> 01:38:27.650 And back to 27, agreement will be legally binding. 01:38:27.990 --> 01:38:32.210 Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by the Peace Council headed 01:38:32.210 --> 01:38:34.050 by President Donald J. Trump. 01:38:34.290 --> 01:38:37.650 Sanctions will be imposed for violations. And that's all it says on that item. 01:38:38.310 --> 01:38:40.910 Well, that's all it says, but it doesn't guarantee the term or whatever. 01:38:41.090 --> 01:38:43.190 I mean, come on, give me a break. I mean, even if he heads it, 01:38:43.310 --> 01:38:44.610 I mean, somebody else is president. 01:38:44.770 --> 01:38:47.830 They're going to dump him on that. This isn't exactly what I'm saying. 01:38:47.910 --> 01:38:51.650 This isn't exactly like, oh, my God, he's been named forever to a fucking council. 01:38:51.650 --> 01:38:54.790 This is one of those positions, like, you know, the moment the new president 01:38:54.790 --> 01:38:57.870 comes in, oh, you're ahead of that? Fuck, you're gone. 01:38:58.070 --> 01:39:00.830 Bye, see ya. You know, so... 01:39:01.230 --> 01:39:03.730 Yeah, yeah. I mean... 01:39:05.250 --> 01:39:08.250 The other things that were in this post. 01:39:08.250 --> 01:39:14.930 Listen, I think the main thing about this treaty is that it's imposing on Ukraine right now. 01:39:15.370 --> 01:39:21.430 Just it's this whole thing that they have been adamantly opposed the entire time. 01:39:22.110 --> 01:39:28.030 That, you know, which is why Russia has been fighting for inches of territory. Inches. 01:39:28.630 --> 01:39:34.650 Because what they want is, oh, we'll stop the war just where the lines are frozen. 01:39:34.650 --> 01:39:36.930 That's it. And that's ours. 01:39:37.810 --> 01:39:37.950 Right. 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:42.860 They aren't, you know, and usually in a lot of these conflicts like this, 01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:50.860 the aggressors Russia is forced to give back significant parts of territory in order to get the... 01:39:50.860 --> 01:39:57.700 I mean, there's so many conflicts that end by essentially freezing the lines. I mean, look at Korea. 01:39:58.240 --> 01:40:02.500 I mean, how did the Korean War quote-unquote end? It's not officially over yet, is it? 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:05.600 It's not officially over, so therefore, what are we talking about? 01:40:06.940 --> 01:40:07.460 But. 01:40:07.460 --> 01:40:13.920 The thing is that in in other conflict this isn't a compromise in any way that's what i'm saying. 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.340 Right no this this is basically give 01:40:17.340 --> 01:40:23.140 the russians what they've been asking for with the exception of you know the 01:40:23.140 --> 01:40:29.400 de jure versus de facto thing that i mentioned yeah that's it aside aside from 01:40:29.400 --> 01:40:35.380 that everything on this list is this is what the russians wanted along with 01:40:35.380 --> 01:40:37.260 with the possible exception that Clearly, 01:40:37.780 --> 01:40:42.980 when the full-scale invasion started, Putin wanted to take over the whole damn 01:40:42.980 --> 01:40:46.080 country and have Ukraine cease to exist as an independent country. 01:40:46.260 --> 01:40:49.200 So the Russians have clearly given up on that. 01:40:49.660 --> 01:40:54.140 But everything else here is what they've been saying they wanted for years. 01:40:55.240 --> 01:41:01.660 You know, and there's no real concession to what the Ukrainians have said they 01:41:01.660 --> 01:41:07.340 wanted, which is for the Russians to get out of their territory and to join NATO. and the EU. 01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:11.460 That's what they've consistently said they've wanted for years now. 01:41:12.240 --> 01:41:17.720 And by the way, even before the, that's the whole excuse for this invasion from 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:20.920 the Russian side is we can't let Ukraine go to NATO. 01:41:21.140 --> 01:41:24.280 But NATO had actually been slow walking it and saying no. 01:41:25.300 --> 01:41:30.360 Right you know before this all happened anyway but you know if you if you go 01:41:30.360 --> 01:41:32.980 through a point by point which i'm sorry that took a long time because there 01:41:32.980 --> 01:41:37.380 were 28 damn points but you most of them you can go. 01:41:37.380 --> 01:41:39.300 And what you can do is like when you. 01:41:39.300 --> 01:41:40.080 Actually finish. 01:41:40.080 --> 01:41:46.100 The process yes you will you'll go and put that section at 1.5 like for everybody 01:41:46.100 --> 01:41:49.360 so that way you can go through all the points yes so. 01:41:49.360 --> 01:41:52.560 For those of us who already listened to it sped up it's gonna be, 01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:59.640 yes i won't do that however anybody who is bored by it i'm sure skipped ahead 01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:01.360 or increase the speed on their own. 01:42:01.360 --> 01:42:03.360 Okay you know. 01:42:03.360 --> 01:42:04.680 If i'd thought about saying it. 01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:09.240 Before no no no that's what you got okay so now what you got to insert is and 01:42:09.240 --> 01:42:14.280 if you got to go back and post or insert this saying bing bing bing i am about 01:42:14.280 --> 01:42:19.700 to read a very long list of things if you don't want to hear them all read, 01:42:20.240 --> 01:42:26.380 please, you know, or want to hear faster, please accelerate your podcast client. Thank you. 01:42:27.500 --> 01:42:29.060 Maybe I'll do that. 01:42:29.300 --> 01:42:30.020 Maybe I'll do that. 01:42:31.140 --> 01:42:35.920 I'll consider it. I will think about it. You know, I got other things to do 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:37.260 other than spend time editing. 01:42:37.640 --> 01:42:40.280 No, you don't. No, you don't. What the fuck are you talking about? 01:42:40.300 --> 01:42:41.360 No, you don't, you asshole. 01:42:42.300 --> 01:42:46.060 I got a whole bunch of other things to do. I got a job and shit or whatever. 01:42:46.140 --> 01:42:50.100 What the fuck are you talking about? No, you don't. You got plenty of fucking time. 01:42:50.480 --> 01:42:53.000 I have other things I want to do. 01:42:54.300 --> 01:42:55.980 Oh, okay. All right. 01:42:56.480 --> 01:42:59.380 You know, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow, for example. 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.760 You know, I've got a haircut scheduled tomorrow. 01:43:04.040 --> 01:43:08.780 So, you know, if I spend all this time editing, I might have to miss my haircut. 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:11.500 Or I might have to do it myself. 01:43:12.060 --> 01:43:14.440 Oh, my God. You know, heaven forbid. 01:43:14.740 --> 01:43:15.780 Get out the flowbie. 01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:18.700 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 01:43:18.940 --> 01:43:26.260 Anyway, no. No, what I was saying is, in isolation, a bunch of these points 01:43:26.260 --> 01:43:27.600 actually do sound reasonable. 01:43:28.020 --> 01:43:32.420 Together as a package, it's essentially a complete capitulation of Ukraine to 01:43:32.420 --> 01:43:33.400 everything Russia wants. 01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:34.340 Yes. 01:43:35.060 --> 01:43:41.420 You know, and so we have yet to see what, Zelensky has not given an answer yet. 01:43:41.420 --> 01:43:43.920 So far, everything you said is we'll consider this, blah, blah, 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:48.640 blah, because he's under extreme pressure about this. 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:53.080 But on the other hand, if he agrees to all this, 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:57.300 he was probably going to be done internally in Ukraine, too, 01:43:57.460 --> 01:44:03.000 because the population is very tired of the war, but I'm not sure that they're 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:05.480 ready for complete capitulation like this. 01:44:07.580 --> 01:44:12.400 But, you know, you've got a war-weary population. It's been years. 01:44:12.660 --> 01:44:14.340 Lots of people just want it to be over. 01:44:14.980 --> 01:44:18.040 And, you know, and you can understand that. 01:44:18.780 --> 01:44:21.360 On the other hand, there is a complete, 01:44:22.500 --> 01:44:28.320 There is not trust that Russia will live up to one iota of anything it agrees to. 01:44:28.780 --> 01:44:33.540 And also, there's not a lot of trust in the security guarantees either. 01:44:34.360 --> 01:44:39.000 Will they really come through? Especially the U.S. under Donald Trump. 01:44:39.480 --> 01:44:40.000 Right. 01:44:40.220 --> 01:44:44.000 You know, is he really going to come through or is in the end he's going to 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:46.480 be like, well, you know, I remember 01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:50.860 you wouldn't investigate Hunter Biden when I told you to. You know. 01:44:52.900 --> 01:44:55.900 It comes up, comes back to that. Yeah. 01:44:56.040 --> 01:44:56.660 I mean, okay. 01:44:58.400 --> 01:45:08.000 Okay. Let's take, let's take a third break and then, then we'll do two more and wrap it up. Okay. 01:45:08.420 --> 01:45:11.680 Two more quick ones. Let's, let's make a lightning round. Actually lightning this time. 01:45:12.500 --> 01:45:17.080 This last one is an Apple dream, but it is an Apple dream that I have actually 01:45:17.080 --> 01:45:21.620 used on the podcast before. I pick from all the Apple dreams and I did publish 01:45:21.620 --> 01:45:23.140 a new one on Tik TOK this last week. 01:45:23.240 --> 01:45:26.540 Apple dream 74 came out this last week. 01:45:26.660 --> 01:45:30.200 So, but you have to find that on Tik TOK on my personal Tik TOK. 01:45:30.620 --> 01:45:32.300 Not the curmudgeons corner Tik TOK. 01:45:32.480 --> 01:45:36.720 You will see Apple dream 74. It's a brand new one, but no, this one is Apple dream 12. 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:40.020 Cause I randomly picked out of all 74 Apple dreams, which one, 01:45:40.040 --> 01:45:44.240 and this has actually featured on the show before, but probably a long time ago. 01:45:44.420 --> 01:45:46.920 So here's Apple dream 12. Enjoy everyone. 01:46:57.690 --> 01:46:58.330 That was it. 01:46:59.030 --> 01:47:03.410 Okay, then. My wife had a dream yesterday where apparently she kept trying to 01:47:03.410 --> 01:47:06.650 pack a bag, but she kept packing and packing and packing and she couldn't. 01:47:06.770 --> 01:47:08.490 It's like she could never finish packing. 01:47:08.870 --> 01:47:13.790 Because the packing kept going on, like, endlessly. As it does. 01:47:13.790 --> 01:47:13.930 So that was her. 01:47:14.450 --> 01:47:15.150 Yeah. Yeah. 01:47:16.530 --> 01:47:18.070 Okay, last topic from you, Yvonne. 01:47:19.150 --> 01:47:25.690 Last topic from me. Okay, let's talk about, because I didn't watch a lot of this. 01:47:26.250 --> 01:47:31.130 Mondami went to the White House, met with Trump. How did it go, Sam? 01:47:31.990 --> 01:47:35.610 How did it go? It was a love fest. It's like, what the hell? 01:47:37.570 --> 01:47:40.790 Both of them were saying positive things about the other. 01:47:41.570 --> 01:47:48.250 You know Mandami was very civil, very polite, which you kind of expect when 01:47:48.250 --> 01:47:52.010 you go to the White House but like, you know he was. 01:47:52.010 --> 01:47:55.530 Working very hard to talk about their points of agreement, 01:47:57.310 --> 01:48:02.210 you've had times when even if you're going polite to the White House, 01:48:02.310 --> 01:48:06.490 or you've had shit that happened to Zelensky for example, where all of a sudden 01:48:06.490 --> 01:48:10.010 he was berated there or whatever, and I thought maybe that's what they were 01:48:10.010 --> 01:48:11.230 planning on doing But no. 01:48:12.070 --> 01:48:16.770 He was like, Donald Trump was talking about how we both love New York and how 01:48:16.770 --> 01:48:18.110 we agree on lots of things. 01:48:18.250 --> 01:48:23.570 And he's got great ideas about affordability and, you know, and how, 01:48:23.770 --> 01:48:28.650 like, he ran a great campaign and he beat a lot of people and, 01:48:28.850 --> 01:48:30.990 you know, all this kind of stuff. 01:48:31.290 --> 01:48:37.450 And, you know, Donald Trump was was glowingly positive about Mandami. 01:48:37.930 --> 01:48:40.470 And this is like bizarre, this whole fucking thing. 01:48:40.630 --> 01:48:44.670 And, and like at one point, like Mandami was asked, you know, 01:48:44.890 --> 01:48:48.670 Hey, you, you've caught Donald Trump fascist. 01:48:48.830 --> 01:48:51.710 Do you, do you still believe he's fascist? What do you think here? 01:48:52.010 --> 01:48:54.970 And, and Mandami starts to say, well, you know, blah, blah, blah. 01:48:55.190 --> 01:48:58.550 And Donald Trump is like, it's okay. You can just say yes. It's cool. 01:48:59.500 --> 01:49:01.140 It's easier than trying to explain it. 01:49:01.960 --> 01:49:02.000 Yeah. 01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:03.980 Of course, there are a couple of ways to interpret that one. 01:49:03.980 --> 01:49:06.780 He was just laughing and friendly. The other is like, yeah, I don't mind being 01:49:06.780 --> 01:49:09.500 called fascist because like, you know, I am, it's okay. 01:49:09.980 --> 01:49:16.160 But, but it is all, it was all very congenial. It was all very, very happy go lucky. 01:49:16.420 --> 01:49:19.680 They were all talking about places where they want to work together. 01:49:20.340 --> 01:49:24.780 And, and, you know, look, I understand. And Donald Trump kept saying like, 01:49:24.940 --> 01:49:27.120 all my policies are going to be great for New York. 01:49:27.280 --> 01:49:31.740 So like, it's going to help you succeed, you know, stuff like that. 01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:34.400 And, and every time something was brought up where they disagree, 01:49:35.020 --> 01:49:37.800 Mondami was very much, you know, Hey. 01:49:38.740 --> 01:49:42.540 Of course there are areas where we disagree, but I want to concentrate on the, 01:49:42.660 --> 01:49:45.860 the places where we can work together and where, and he's like, 01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:52.120 look, one of the things, lots of, lots of people in New York moved over to vote for Donald Trump. 01:49:52.340 --> 01:49:56.800 And when I talked to him, the reason was affordability, cost of living, 01:49:56.800 --> 01:49:58.140 affordability, cost of living. 01:49:58.300 --> 01:50:01.260 And that's one thing where I think we can agree that that's a problem and we'll 01:50:01.260 --> 01:50:02.260 work together and blah, blah, blah. 01:50:02.440 --> 01:50:04.820 And that's basically how the conversation went. 01:50:05.240 --> 01:50:10.600 Now, people also point out that as usual, Donald Trump's view of the world tends 01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:14.540 to be driven by the last person he talked to. And this was right after he had 01:50:14.540 --> 01:50:15.600 his meeting with Mandami. 01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:19.520 And Mandami is very charismatic and very personable. 01:50:19.900 --> 01:50:25.460 And so Donald Trump probably came out of a meeting, having had a great conversation 01:50:25.460 --> 01:50:28.800 and liking Mandami personally, and so was all positive about him. 01:50:29.260 --> 01:50:32.240 And probably 10 minutes after this press conference was over, 01:50:32.260 --> 01:50:36.960 he goes to talk to Miller or somebody, and he probably has a different tune by tomorrow. 01:50:38.380 --> 01:50:45.080 Did he bring him a clock, maybe? Or a gold little plaque or something? You know, I mean... 01:50:45.080 --> 01:50:46.560 A key to the city. 01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:54.500 Yes, a real... That's it! He brought him a real gold key to the city! 01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:58.640 You know Trump probably Trump probably has four or five of those already from 01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:00.900 previous mayors but you know not a real gold not. 01:51:00.900 --> 01:51:01.960 A real gold one. 01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:03.380 Ah maybe, 01:51:04.170 --> 01:51:06.510 Giuliani might have sprung for the gold, you know? 01:51:06.850 --> 01:51:13.210 I don't know. They didn't seem to be that friendly back then when he was mayor. 01:51:13.630 --> 01:51:18.870 Well, they did that, like, skit where, like, Giuliani wore the dress, remember? 01:51:19.730 --> 01:51:27.030 Oh, yeah, that's right. But, listen, but back then, you know, I don't... 01:51:27.030 --> 01:51:32.330 Well, what's another... I mean, listen, do you think Trump would not turn away 01:51:32.330 --> 01:51:34.930 another gold key to the city? 01:51:35.090 --> 01:51:36.330 No, he would not. No, he would not. 01:51:36.490 --> 01:51:36.790 Exactly. 01:51:37.770 --> 01:51:39.010 He'd be wondering what door it actually opened. 01:51:39.030 --> 01:51:43.370 Especially if it was engraved with 45, 47 thing. 01:51:43.810 --> 01:51:43.890 Exactly. 01:51:44.730 --> 01:51:45.030 Yeah. 01:51:46.630 --> 01:51:51.610 Yeah, that sounds like, you know, hey, bring him gifts, flatter him, 01:51:51.730 --> 01:51:53.270 and he'll do whatever you want. 01:51:53.970 --> 01:51:59.050 And, you know, I'm sure Mandami is fully aware of that dynamic, 01:51:59.050 --> 01:52:01.330 just like anybody else who meets him these days. 01:52:01.910 --> 01:52:02.070 Yeah. 01:52:02.070 --> 01:52:06.790 That if you, you know, and there probably was some sort of, I don't know, 01:52:06.910 --> 01:52:10.470 you know, it doesn't even have to be a really expensive gift. 01:52:10.870 --> 01:52:14.050 It just has to be one that tickles his fancy in the right way. 01:52:14.690 --> 01:52:19.930 Expensive helps. Expensive helps. yeah okay however 01:52:19.930 --> 01:52:22.990 gold gold colored helps gold 01:52:22.990 --> 01:52:30.530 colored yes yes from spray painted from home depot yes um but yeah but yeah 01:52:30.530 --> 01:52:37.710 i'm sure mandami flattered him and and said some nice things and i don't know 01:52:37.710 --> 01:52:41.090 i i feel like the trump tower looks fantastic. 01:52:41.090 --> 01:52:45.270 It's such a great building we want to make sure that it's taken care of very 01:52:45.270 --> 01:52:49.110 well under me as mayor blah blah blah there you go easily boom. 01:52:49.110 --> 01:52:54.930 Well and yeah i mean and part of what you know people have been reacting to this is like, 01:52:55.690 --> 01:52:59.570 the republican party as a whole had been 01:52:59.570 --> 01:53:07.410 salivated at using mandami as like the new face of the democratic party to paint 01:53:07.410 --> 01:53:14.210 them all as like radical socialists yes yes and and now And now we've got Donald 01:53:14.210 --> 01:53:16.970 Trump being all chummy with him and talking about how great he is. 01:53:17.130 --> 01:53:20.870 Oh, tell me how you're doing, buddy. Yes. 01:53:21.430 --> 01:53:26.310 You know, and all the Republicans in the House are going, what the fuck just happened? 01:53:27.380 --> 01:53:28.080 Exactly. 01:53:31.980 --> 01:53:35.300 Now, that's not necessarily going to stop them, just to be clear. 01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:39.520 But it just, he's not helping. 01:53:40.020 --> 01:53:42.780 Not helping. Not helping. 01:53:43.140 --> 01:53:48.940 Anyway, I was listening to this while I was driving my son to school. 01:53:49.200 --> 01:53:53.660 And I was like, what the hell am I listening to? This is just bizarre. 01:53:55.960 --> 01:54:00.560 I kept hearing you say it I'm like because I don't know what the hell I was 01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:07.060 so I was busy whatever you know and I'm like what is going on I don't understand 01:54:07.060 --> 01:54:09.800 because I fully expected this to be a shit show. 01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:12.900 More like the Zelensky meeting yeah. 01:54:12.900 --> 01:54:18.660 Right I expected a Zelensky style meeting not all of a sudden like them standing 01:54:18.660 --> 01:54:23.400 there like all grinning and happy yes and joking Are you positively kidding? 01:54:25.400 --> 01:54:28.200 I'm like, what the hell? What happened? 01:54:28.580 --> 01:54:37.720 Now, again, I have confidence that, like, in this, like, Mendami can probably 01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:41.240 get the better of Trump in terms of manipulating him at this point. 01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:47.620 Like, whatever skills Donald Trump has had in the past in that area have been 01:54:47.620 --> 01:54:53.140 slipping. And now everybody knows how to get what they want out of Donald Trump. 01:54:53.940 --> 01:55:00.440 Look, I, Mom Dami is quite charismatic. So you mentioned her. 01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:00.760 Yes. 01:55:00.940 --> 01:55:08.540 I mean, he is quite, you know, from what I've heard, executives in New York, 01:55:09.200 --> 01:55:12.960 business executives that were really afraid of him, that have sat down and met 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:17.740 with him, walked away with, oh yeah, we can work with him. 01:55:18.060 --> 01:55:20.020 We can figure stuff out, you know. 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:23.860 Once they got past all the... We'll pay for the damn free buses. 01:55:26.510 --> 01:55:31.510 Yeah. Oh, I'm going to bet you that that's something that will happen. 01:55:32.270 --> 01:55:38.450 Yes, the chase one bus line or whatever, you know. 01:55:38.590 --> 01:55:43.950 Listen, let me tell you something. There is nothing that Trump really likes 01:55:43.950 --> 01:55:47.550 once more than flattering in some way. 01:55:48.170 --> 01:55:51.410 And credit for something, whatever. 01:55:51.810 --> 01:56:03.810 Okay? Okay, so if you can maneuver it properly, then yeah, you can get whatever 01:56:03.810 --> 01:56:04.850 the fuck you want out of him. 01:56:04.910 --> 01:56:09.030 It's just know how to just sweet talk him into it. 01:56:09.510 --> 01:56:14.010 Look at a Swiss. Listen, I've never seen a more abrupt turnaround than what 01:56:14.010 --> 01:56:14.790 happened with Switzerland. 01:56:16.190 --> 01:56:19.890 I mean, because they had been getting hammered with the tariffs. 01:56:20.090 --> 01:56:23.410 They'd been getting fucked and they had gotten nowhere. And somehow, 01:56:23.870 --> 01:56:26.850 you know, they went, they decided, fuck this. 01:56:26.990 --> 01:56:31.030 We're going to get a meeting with Trump and we're going to bring the goods. 01:56:31.150 --> 01:56:38.570 And the goods being a custom made Rolex desktop clock. 01:56:39.050 --> 01:56:44.190 OK, but that must be very impressive. And I want to see a fucking picture of this damn clock. 01:56:44.190 --> 01:56:48.570 Okay i really want to see this okay and 01:56:48.570 --> 01:56:54.830 a solid i mean think about you know you talked about gold a solid gold bar yes 01:56:54.830 --> 01:57:03.270 great personally engraved with the 45 47 bullshit audit trump whatever on a 01:57:03.270 --> 01:57:07.350 solid a solid gold bar this. 01:57:07.350 --> 01:57:09.330 Is what menendez is in jail for. 01:57:09.330 --> 01:57:16.330 Right now yes geez like and all of sudden tariffs went from 37% to 50%, boom! 01:57:16.770 --> 01:57:23.210 Just like that. People pointed out, like, you cannot get a more literal interpretation 01:57:23.210 --> 01:57:29.430 of what the emoluments clause was designed to prevent than a foreign government 01:57:29.430 --> 01:57:34.590 handing the president a gold bar to get specific policy results. 01:57:35.350 --> 01:57:35.390 Right! 01:57:38.060 --> 01:57:43.240 Okay, last topic from me. We previewed Marjorie Taylor Greene. 01:57:43.400 --> 01:57:46.660 Okay, yes. Yeah, we can't skip that one. 01:57:47.040 --> 01:57:48.700 Okay, so here's the thing. 01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:56.140 Okay, what the fuck? I mean, what the fuck happened? This happened quickly. 01:57:56.560 --> 01:58:04.180 So look, it's been building, but specifically, let's go through the last couple 01:58:04.180 --> 01:58:05.800 months. Couple of months, yeah. 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:09.500 Specifically the the newest rift and they've had 01:58:09.500 --> 01:58:13.080 a few places where they've disagreed in the past related to 01:58:13.080 --> 01:58:16.180 even like getting rid of the previous speakers 01:58:16.180 --> 01:58:20.540 in those speaker battles right like yeah they were on opposite sides of that 01:58:20.540 --> 01:58:27.780 but recently this has been all about the epstein stuff she was one of the key 01:58:27.780 --> 01:58:33.740 republican defectors that gave them the numbers to do this discharge position, 01:58:33.740 --> 01:58:36.220 and she has been vocal about it, 01:58:36.300 --> 01:58:38.440 and she has talked about it repeatedly, 01:58:38.740 --> 01:58:45.800 and she has not budged from her positions on that, because where she came from was... 01:58:46.910 --> 01:58:51.950 Was QAnon. Right. Marjorie Taylor Greene was all about the QAnon. 01:58:52.690 --> 01:58:54.490 She is the big QAnon. 01:58:54.750 --> 01:58:57.690 And the Pizzagate and all this kind of stuff. 01:58:58.130 --> 01:59:02.610 Everything we were talking about, about the whole point of this is we have to 01:59:02.610 --> 01:59:05.030 dismantle the Democratic pedophile ring. 01:59:05.470 --> 01:59:09.670 That was a big part of her thought process. The Epstein stuff was important 01:59:09.670 --> 01:59:10.750 to her from the beginning. 01:59:10.930 --> 01:59:16.550 She honestly felt like this was a complete betrayal by Donald Trump and how 01:59:16.550 --> 01:59:21.250 could he possibly be against releasing this stuff? This is one of the things he promised to do. 01:59:21.750 --> 01:59:28.270 And so she was consistent on this from the beginning. She would not give in to any pressure on it. 01:59:28.490 --> 01:59:33.210 And this was a part of it. And she started openly speaking about it. 01:59:33.350 --> 01:59:35.550 And then the government shut down. 01:59:35.710 --> 01:59:39.070 She started going against the Republican line on the government shutdown as 01:59:39.070 --> 01:59:44.230 well, talking about how the healthcare subsidies, the Democrats had a point. 01:59:44.410 --> 01:59:46.790 It was hurting her own family. and blah, blah, blah. 01:59:47.110 --> 01:59:52.770 And let's just make a deal and end this thing and let's fix the healthcare stuff. 01:59:53.830 --> 01:59:57.410 And so she started doing a bunch of those things. 01:59:58.370 --> 02:00:08.190 But what happened in the last week is apparently she started getting deluged by death threats. Okay. 02:00:08.910 --> 02:00:10.130 Oh my God. 02:00:11.410 --> 02:00:13.230 By MAGA folks. 02:00:15.030 --> 02:00:17.170 And, you know, she was asked in an interview, 02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:23.120 You know, this goes to what we've talked about before, about like none of these 02:00:23.120 --> 02:00:25.960 things matter to these people until it happens to them. 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:30.900 She's like, you know, all of a sudden you're, you're really, 02:00:31.060 --> 02:00:33.420 you're worried about this because you're the target. 02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:38.740 You didn't seem to care at all when the target of MAGA death threats were, 02:00:38.740 --> 02:00:44.220 you know, Schiff or other people on the other side of the aisle. 02:00:44.220 --> 02:00:49.660 And she actually said, I don't want to give her a lot of credit, 02:00:49.860 --> 02:00:54.080 but she actually said, that's on me, and I was probably wrong. 02:00:55.240 --> 02:01:03.640 Sam, I have never seen a more transformation occurring faster than this. 02:01:04.080 --> 02:01:08.720 I mean, top to bottom. 02:01:09.080 --> 02:01:10.220 To be clear. 02:01:10.860 --> 02:01:13.480 She was a Jewish space lasers lady. 02:01:13.480 --> 02:01:18.840 I know, but to be clear, she's not turning into a Democrat. She's not turning into a liberal. 02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:19.260 No, no. 02:01:19.260 --> 02:01:22.760 If you read her statement, if you read her statement where she's axing, 02:01:22.940 --> 02:01:26.180 she's got like all kinds of anti-trans crap in there. 02:01:26.340 --> 02:01:30.540 She's got all kinds of standard conservative tropes in there as well. 02:01:30.740 --> 02:01:37.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But all the things that she has backed off on. 02:01:37.660 --> 02:01:37.980 Yeah. 02:01:38.280 --> 02:01:40.080 And how quickly she did. 02:01:40.600 --> 02:01:45.360 Well, I mean, I think, and I don't know if this is a canary in the coal mine, 02:01:45.540 --> 02:01:53.260 I cross my fingers, but is this, like, starting to snap out of the cult and realize, like, 02:01:53.780 --> 02:01:57.460 oh, my God, he actually has been fooling me all these years? 02:01:57.760 --> 02:02:02.100 If you look at the polling data, if you look at all the information that we're 02:02:02.100 --> 02:02:05.180 getting right now, it's looking like that is what's happening, okay? 02:02:05.200 --> 02:02:08.400 And that's the one thing that, you know, we could, you know... 02:02:09.650 --> 02:02:13.670 Add to this you know i had mentioned in one of the topics talking about that 02:02:13.670 --> 02:02:20.930 trump right now is at all-time low for this term okay well he hasn't hit the 02:02:20.930 --> 02:02:23.570 low an approval for no he on. 02:02:23.570 --> 02:02:24.050 Some of the. 02:02:24.050 --> 02:02:25.170 Poll he has. 02:02:25.170 --> 02:02:29.070 He has hit the net approval lowest of both terms. 02:02:29.070 --> 02:02:34.910 Oh he's hit for both terms okay for both terms okay now now this depends this 02:02:34.910 --> 02:02:36.930 depends a little bit because that includes COVID. 02:02:37.390 --> 02:02:43.670 Right. That depends a little bit on the, on which average you use. Cause it's close. 02:02:43.870 --> 02:02:49.090 Okay. But there, there are several factors. The first thing was just the low for the second turn. 02:02:49.270 --> 02:02:54.130 The next was below where he was at the exact same time, eight years ago. 02:02:54.310 --> 02:02:57.890 And then the last milestone was the lowest of both terms. 02:02:58.030 --> 02:03:03.770 And on some poll averages, he did hit that a few weeks ago, he's bounced up a little bit since then. 02:03:03.950 --> 02:03:09.850 But it's crazy. But then on top of that, Sam, and I think what MTG was looking 02:03:09.850 --> 02:03:13.250 at, that fucking generic ballot, okay, alright? 02:03:13.690 --> 02:03:20.870 The margin that the Democrats have right now is for a wipeout of epic proportions, 02:03:21.270 --> 02:03:22.730 okay, for the Republicans, okay? 02:03:23.730 --> 02:03:27.510 You know, forget it. I mean, right now, here's the thing that's happening. 02:03:27.710 --> 02:03:30.810 The gerrymandering that they wanted has been stalled. 02:03:30.970 --> 02:03:34.430 A whole bunch of states that they want, they thought that they would get on 02:03:34.430 --> 02:03:38.710 board to doing stuff. I refuse to do it. They've just refused to do it. 02:03:39.770 --> 02:03:44.410 Then you've got the problem that the Texas maps have been blocked, like, right now? 02:03:44.850 --> 02:03:48.750 Well, SCOTUS just unblocked them a couple hours ago, but yes. 02:03:49.130 --> 02:03:50.090 Oh, what? 02:03:50.830 --> 02:03:57.110 Yes. SCOTUS has allowed the maps to remain in effect while the appeals process continues. 02:03:57.530 --> 02:03:58.050 Okay. 02:03:58.150 --> 02:03:59.610 As of, like, just a couple hours ago. 02:04:00.310 --> 02:04:04.270 Okay. But, okay, fuck, fuckers. Anyway. 02:04:05.210 --> 02:04:09.430 But the thing is that— That's one of the things that just one justice can do 02:04:09.430 --> 02:04:13.090 that, and it's just until the process plays out. 02:04:13.650 --> 02:04:18.990 Okay, but bottom line is that— I wouldn't be surprised at all if SCOTUS backs 02:04:18.990 --> 02:04:20.730 up Texas in the end, but go ahead. 02:04:21.270 --> 02:04:24.910 But the thing is that it's gotten—they thought that, you know, 02:04:24.970 --> 02:04:26.870 Trump had asked all these states to do it. 02:04:27.010 --> 02:04:30.790 The reality is that they're not getting anywhere as far as they thought they 02:04:30.790 --> 02:04:36.850 would with the maps. But then you add the fact that the ballot looks that bad, 02:04:36.870 --> 02:04:39.630 that it may not fucking matter, okay? 02:04:40.730 --> 02:04:46.610 If the polls aren't that bad, even the gerrymandering isn't going to save their asses anyway. 02:04:46.970 --> 02:04:47.570 Right. 02:04:48.750 --> 02:04:55.610 Yeah. And this was the summary that I believe it was DDHQ put out an analysis 02:04:55.610 --> 02:05:00.510 of this, but also the gerrymander project out of Princeton also did something similar. 02:05:00.510 --> 02:05:09.230 Basically, if you net out all of the gerrymandering efforts, 02:05:09.410 --> 02:05:11.510 both Republican and Democrat, blah, blah, blah, 02:05:11.890 --> 02:05:20.210 it gives perhaps a mid-to-high single-digit additional advantage to Republicans. 02:05:21.430 --> 02:05:27.090 But in a way of election, the movement can be like 20, 30 seats. 02:05:27.450 --> 02:05:32.050 And that completely swamps the like seven or eight seats that the Republicans 02:05:32.050 --> 02:05:33.370 may be getting. Exactly. 02:05:33.650 --> 02:05:37.890 Now, it still makes it seven or eight seats harder. But if there really is a 02:05:37.890 --> 02:05:40.430 way of election, then that gets blown away. 02:05:40.710 --> 02:05:45.210 It doesn't matter. And that's what it's looking like. I mean, at this point. 02:05:46.130 --> 02:05:49.670 So, I mean, I think MTG is just reading the tea leaves also. 02:05:50.310 --> 02:05:55.950 You know, she's an asshole. I don't think she's a stupid asshole. 02:05:56.410 --> 02:05:56.890 Right. 02:05:57.590 --> 02:05:58.170 I think. 02:05:58.310 --> 02:05:58.590 Wow. 02:05:59.090 --> 02:06:04.870 No, no, no. No, no, Sam. No, no, no, no. She's a fucking grifter. 02:06:05.430 --> 02:06:05.910 Yes. 02:06:06.030 --> 02:06:11.290 She's an asshole. This is all fucking grift. That's all you got to remember. 02:06:12.030 --> 02:06:15.670 I think she's a true believer in some places as well. 02:06:15.830 --> 02:06:18.630 I think there may be a thing here or there that she's a true believer, 02:06:18.630 --> 02:06:20.530 but for the most part she's just a fucking grifter. 02:06:21.760 --> 02:06:26.780 I really do. Because I'm sorry, you can't switch positions on that much shit 02:06:26.780 --> 02:06:30.700 like she did in two months unless you're that much of a grifter. 02:06:31.740 --> 02:06:35.520 Sorry, but it just doesn't happen. Not if you're a true believer. 02:06:36.320 --> 02:06:36.480 Yeah. 02:06:36.620 --> 02:06:40.880 So I just think that she saw the tea leaves. She said, we're going to get fucked. 02:06:41.340 --> 02:06:45.500 I got to get off this train before it crashes into the station. 02:06:45.900 --> 02:06:47.700 So let me just jump off now. 02:06:48.420 --> 02:06:53.300 And let me let, you know, Johnson and all these other idiots go and crash into 02:06:53.300 --> 02:06:55.920 the station. You know, I'm off. Bye. 02:06:56.500 --> 02:06:58.200 So I think that's what she's doing. 02:06:58.920 --> 02:07:00.600 I think the death threats don't help. 02:07:01.700 --> 02:07:04.700 No. And I think that's one of the... 02:07:06.060 --> 02:07:11.400 Look, I honestly think that's a big part of this. The quote from her that I'm 02:07:11.400 --> 02:07:12.300 going to read real quick. 02:07:12.400 --> 02:07:14.680 And, of course, I brought it up. And then I, like. 02:07:15.400 --> 02:07:17.340 Of course, changed the screen. 02:07:17.700 --> 02:07:24.240 Okay, from her statement, I do not want my sweet district to have to endure 02:07:24.240 --> 02:07:27.600 a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the president. 02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:33.640 I refuse to be a battered wife, hoping it all goes away and gets better. 02:07:33.940 --> 02:07:38.920 There's no plan to save the world or a 4D chess game being played. 02:07:40.470 --> 02:07:47.110 You know, I think she basically, the president was going to war against her 02:07:47.110 --> 02:07:48.530 for her being an insubordinate. 02:07:49.010 --> 02:07:51.390 And she's just like, I'm out. I'm not playing that game. 02:07:52.190 --> 02:07:55.330 Now, does she come back playing another game? I mean, there's lots of speculation 02:07:55.330 --> 02:07:56.550 of her running for Senate. 02:07:58.550 --> 02:08:01.510 She has said she's not going to run for president, but who knows? 02:08:01.710 --> 02:08:04.850 But there's lots of speculation that she wanted to run for Senate. 02:08:05.130 --> 02:08:09.030 And one of the reasons for this rift was Trump was not backing her for Senate. 02:08:09.390 --> 02:08:14.670 Here's the other thing. she likes money okay all right so she's been very and 02:08:14.670 --> 02:08:22.790 so there is a lot of grifts that you can carry out like right now with all these people of. 02:08:23.770 --> 02:08:29.030 Far more, not being in the house and being this person that's out there that 02:08:29.030 --> 02:08:34.850 talks, she'll get paid to be on Fox and this, that, and the other thing. 02:08:35.030 --> 02:08:36.930 She'll get paid appearance fees. 02:08:37.230 --> 02:08:40.830 I had shared this thing about this, this swimmer, Riley Gaines, 02:08:40.830 --> 02:08:46.610 this video about how she's being, you know, how she is the one that really launched 02:08:46.610 --> 02:08:48.590 this entire anti-trans movement. 02:08:48.830 --> 02:08:52.730 She was the, she was the, the lightning rod for this. 02:08:52.870 --> 02:09:02.310 Okay. and how she is just getting paid left and right to go and like spew this 02:09:02.310 --> 02:09:05.650 shit all over the place. It's a moneymaker. 02:09:06.170 --> 02:09:13.550 How she realized all of a sudden that she could turn this into fame and money 02:09:13.550 --> 02:09:18.010 and all of a sudden she's just out there as the fucking champion of whatever 02:09:18.010 --> 02:09:22.710 talking about the swimmer that supposedly, by the way, that didn't even... 02:09:23.050 --> 02:09:25.610 Tied her for fifth place. That's all that happened. By the way, 02:09:25.670 --> 02:09:27.430 tied her for fifth place. Okay. 02:09:27.990 --> 02:09:32.970 And, and oh, by the way, you know what? Didn't say anything about the coach. 02:09:33.230 --> 02:09:38.430 It was supposedly talking about how that person like caused her trauma, 02:09:38.430 --> 02:09:40.210 but not talk about the coach. 02:09:40.550 --> 02:09:48.230 That was her coach that got, you know, into trouble and fired for sexually assaulting 02:09:48.230 --> 02:09:53.210 the other swimmers on her team. while she was on the team. 02:09:53.790 --> 02:09:54.310 Right. 02:09:55.230 --> 02:09:59.590 So, nay, let's not go against the actual fucking sexual assaulters. 02:09:59.650 --> 02:10:02.790 Let's make up a story about somebody who didn't do anything. 02:10:03.630 --> 02:10:07.250 Because that one makes money. Because, by the way, the other story, 02:10:07.470 --> 02:10:09.810 just like the Epstein victims, does that make money? 02:10:10.630 --> 02:10:12.090 Guess what? No! 02:10:13.130 --> 02:10:13.650 Right. 02:10:15.150 --> 02:10:16.930 So, on that happy note. 02:10:18.220 --> 02:10:25.580 Yes. Let me give one last analysis related to Marjorie Taylor Greene. 02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:32.100 Somebody put out, this is Lisa Desjardins, who's a journalist who's been in 02:10:32.100 --> 02:10:34.400 a couple different places. I forget where she is right now. 02:10:35.040 --> 02:10:41.400 Folks, MTG just cranked up the stakes in the Tennessee 7 special election on 02:10:41.400 --> 02:10:43.920 December 2nd. And here's why. 02:10:44.360 --> 02:10:48.760 Currently, we have 219 Republicans and 213 Democrats. 02:10:50.140 --> 02:10:56.820 On December 13th, if the Democrats win in Tennessee, it becomes 219 to 214. 02:10:57.340 --> 02:11:03.360 January 6th, once Marjorie Taylor Greene is gone, it drops to 218 to 214. 02:11:03.780 --> 02:11:09.520 In January 31st, there's a special election in Texas's 18th, 02:11:09.700 --> 02:11:15.700 which is expected to go to the Democrats, which will make it 218 to 215. 02:11:16.320 --> 02:11:22.980 And then in April, there's another special election in New Jersey's 11th, 02:11:23.160 --> 02:11:30.600 which the Democrats are expected to potentially hold, which would make it 218 to 216, 02:11:30.980 --> 02:11:36.580 which means that only one 02:11:36.580 --> 02:11:39.380 defector from the republicans on 02:11:39.380 --> 02:11:42.740 any given bill makes it to 217 to 02:11:42.740 --> 02:11:52.140 217 tie which fails to pass wow so we take an already close house and potentially 02:11:52.140 --> 02:11:57.520 make it much much closer in a couple months now apparently the new jersey one 02:11:57.520 --> 02:11:59.960 isn't an entirely given for the democrats, 02:12:01.020 --> 02:12:05.500 and the one in Tennessee is not a given for the Democrats. This is a scenario. 02:12:06.020 --> 02:12:10.120 Here's another thing that you might get. By the way, given how MTG resigned, 02:12:10.380 --> 02:12:13.580 you got a couple of other resignations from Republicans that pretty much think 02:12:13.580 --> 02:12:16.960 that they're going to lose and they wanted to get ahead for this and this fucking 02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:18.160 thing, this is game over. 02:12:19.300 --> 02:12:23.840 Potentially. I think there'd be a lot, a lot of pressure for folks. 02:12:24.680 --> 02:12:28.620 If you were the one vote that kept the Republicans in the majority, 02:12:28.980 --> 02:12:31.840 they're going to do everything they can to keep you from the side. 02:12:31.840 --> 02:12:36.020 Yeah, but if you're that pissed off about shit that's happened to some of these, 02:12:36.140 --> 02:12:37.620 they're just, you know, they're not going to care. 02:12:38.780 --> 02:12:44.320 It's a very tight, it's a very, very, very, very tight situation. 02:12:45.080 --> 02:12:45.940 Yes, it is. 02:12:46.940 --> 02:12:50.560 And we're going to have, by the way, we're going to have another, 02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:55.020 like, government funding thing in January, you know, because they only kicked 02:12:55.020 --> 02:12:57.120 the can down the road a few months. 02:12:57.940 --> 02:12:59.020 You know, so. 02:12:59.400 --> 02:13:02.460 I don't know. Hey, Sam, how's the economy doing? It's doing great. 02:13:03.200 --> 02:13:05.800 Any layoffs that you're worried about or any stuff like that? 02:13:07.160 --> 02:13:09.540 I don't know. I've heard there might have been a few layoffs. 02:13:09.960 --> 02:13:12.120 Yeah, I've heard about that, right? I don't know who might have been affected there. 02:13:12.520 --> 02:13:15.440 Jeez, I don't know. We're going to have to look up the records. Okay. All right. 02:13:15.840 --> 02:13:19.460 Well, and there have been more since the one I was involved in. 02:13:19.740 --> 02:13:20.520 There have been more, you know. 02:13:21.060 --> 02:13:25.320 There's been layoffs everywhere. It's fucking crazy. I mean, look, I keep. 02:13:25.560 --> 02:13:27.040 Today was Verizon, right? 02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:31.680 Yeah, but look, HB Enterprise, where I was working, look, I had a friend of 02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:35.700 mine that worked there 28 years. They got laid off, too. 02:13:36.420 --> 02:13:41.520 They had announced the big layoff. They were one of the first people that got laid off in the layoff. 02:13:42.440 --> 02:13:42.840 Yeah. 02:13:43.040 --> 02:13:44.380 It's really bad out there. 02:13:45.360 --> 02:13:50.020 And I don't know. I am pessimistic. I'm expecting it to get worse before it gets better. 02:13:50.760 --> 02:13:55.240 But Trump is doing all these things to improve the economy with the tariffs. 02:13:55.360 --> 02:13:58.160 We're going to get those tariff refund checks. 02:13:59.020 --> 02:13:59.460 Indeed. 02:13:59.540 --> 02:14:02.500 Dividend checks or whatever. I don't know. What do they call them? 02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:04.040 What do they want to call them? 02:14:04.280 --> 02:14:07.200 The important part is his signature will be on them. 02:14:07.800 --> 02:14:08.760 Ah, I see. 02:14:09.700 --> 02:14:10.520 That's what matters. 02:14:10.520 --> 02:14:17.860 I mean, the tariff dividend check or the part where it's like my tax refund, I guess. 02:14:18.220 --> 02:14:20.220 It's kind of like that. That's all it is. 02:14:21.180 --> 02:14:22.640 He's just so stupid. 02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:25.920 Anyway, let's wrap this thing up. It's time. 02:14:26.140 --> 02:14:26.880 Yeah, let's wrap this thing up. 02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:32.080 It's past time. It's past time. Go to curmudgeon-corner.com. 02:14:32.260 --> 02:14:32.940 The tide is high. 02:14:33.440 --> 02:14:36.760 Are you going to sing some more? Sing, sing more? 02:14:36.920 --> 02:14:37.780 No, no, no, no, no. 02:14:37.960 --> 02:14:42.560 I'll assist. 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Go to curmudgeon-corner.com not curmudgeon.corner.com or whatever the hell you said. 02:15:15.600 --> 02:15:17.920 I said curmudgeon-corner. 02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:18.800 Dash works. 02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:19.220 Dash. 02:15:19.340 --> 02:15:19.980 I guess dash. 02:15:19.980 --> 02:15:20.600 Dash works. 02:15:20.820 --> 02:15:23.780 You know i say hyphen but yes it's a dash 02:15:23.780 --> 02:15:29.520 it's a dash anyway because that damn domain squatters on curmudgeonscorner.com 02:15:29.520 --> 02:15:37.580 without a hyphen um anyway anyway yeah yeah they wanted like thousands of dollars 02:15:37.580 --> 02:15:42.380 for it we're not we're fine with the we're fine with the hyphen dash thing whatever, 02:15:43.180 --> 02:15:49.280 anyway go go to our website curmudgeons-corner.com for our archives to see all 02:15:49.280 --> 02:15:52.780 our old episodes transcripts all the ways to contact us. 02:15:53.060 --> 02:15:57.020 And of course, a link to our Patreon, where you can give us cash money. 02:15:57.440 --> 02:16:00.560 And at various levels, we will mention you on the show, we will ring a bell, 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:02.660 we will send you a postcard, we will send you a mug. 02:16:03.540 --> 02:16:07.360 And importantly, at $2 a month or more, or if you just ask, we will invite you 02:16:07.360 --> 02:16:13.780 to the curmudgeons corner slack, where Yvonne and I and a bunch of others are on there all the, 02:16:17.480 --> 02:16:22.320 Emily and Sammy from the UMSUR podcast, join us on the Slack. 02:16:22.660 --> 02:16:26.840 And oh yeah, I'm on their podcast this week as well. The last two weeks I've 02:16:26.840 --> 02:16:28.800 been on their podcast. Go check out those episodes. 02:16:30.020 --> 02:16:35.220 And yeah, join our Slack. It's a lot of fun. The more the merrier. 02:16:35.860 --> 02:16:39.600 And so Yvonne, what's a highlight from the Slack that we have not mentioned 02:16:39.600 --> 02:16:45.080 on the show and will be so exciting and compelling. people will want to join 02:16:45.080 --> 02:16:49.160 the Slack and tune in every day to see what we're talking about. 02:16:49.160 --> 02:16:53.900 I just shared this almost right before we went to record. Serious question for the millennials. 02:16:54.260 --> 02:17:00.200 My older cousin said she used to burn CDs for her crush, like with fire? 02:17:00.520 --> 02:17:03.140 Was that a ritual? Did it work? 02:17:03.860 --> 02:17:05.740 You guys were dot, dot, dot. 02:17:07.420 --> 02:17:10.620 So, Sam, is that how you burn your CDs and you use fire? 02:17:11.460 --> 02:17:11.900 Yes. 02:17:12.500 --> 02:17:13.680 Yes? Oh, nice. 02:17:13.680 --> 02:17:15.340 Really good with marshmallows. 02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:20.540 Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah. Just do a little campfire with, okay. 02:17:20.780 --> 02:17:23.960 That sounds good. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. 02:17:26.180 --> 02:17:29.760 Here's the thing. I realized that that question was not that unserious. 02:17:30.200 --> 02:17:34.300 I think that was a real question. I don't think somebody made that up. 02:17:34.300 --> 02:17:37.960 The reality is that if you're a young person and you hear about, 02:17:38.160 --> 02:17:40.660 you know, when's the last time you burned a CD? 02:17:40.880 --> 02:17:43.620 I don't remember. I don't remember the last time I burned a DVD. 02:17:44.100 --> 02:17:49.740 I was about to say, I'm not sure I ever actually burned a music CD. I burned data CDs. 02:17:50.220 --> 02:17:54.400 But I don't remember if I actually burned an actual regular music. 02:17:54.460 --> 02:17:59.140 I might have done it once at a request for somebody else. I'm not sure. 02:17:59.440 --> 02:18:05.000 I know I burnt data onto CDs a few times. but that's a, that's different. 02:18:05.220 --> 02:18:08.180 You burned a CD, maybe not for music, but you burned a CD. 02:18:08.180 --> 02:18:12.220 Yeah. But, but even then it was rare. I remember, I remember. 02:18:12.520 --> 02:18:13.980 I, I, I did a lot. 02:18:14.280 --> 02:18:14.300 I did. 02:18:14.340 --> 02:18:19.640 I burned a lot of, I did a lot of like CDs, MP3 CDs. 02:18:20.520 --> 02:18:25.540 I even burned, I did not as many, but I did burn a few DVDs video, 02:18:25.780 --> 02:18:29.860 you know, recorded video that I transferred onto a DVD to give to somebody. 02:18:30.160 --> 02:18:33.960 So I did do all of those. Yeah. I mean, I definitely did. 02:18:34.770 --> 02:18:39.090 A lot of burning. I mean, I got rid of, I had a lot of blanks because I did 02:18:39.090 --> 02:18:44.310 regularly burn so many of them that at some point then with MP3 players and 02:18:44.310 --> 02:18:47.870 whatever, iPods or whatever, then obviously that practice stopped. 02:18:47.890 --> 02:18:53.790 There are plenty of places on YouTube and TikTok where you can get really hilarious, 02:18:55.310 --> 02:19:01.790 videos of Gen Xers like us or even older millennials with younger generations, 02:19:02.530 --> 02:19:08.210 trying to get younger folks to use old technology. 02:19:09.750 --> 02:19:16.490 You stick them in front of a VCR and say, see if you can make this play. Or a rotary phone. 02:19:16.930 --> 02:19:19.110 Like, how would you make a call on this thing? 02:19:19.110 --> 02:19:23.770 Now, I can see how that one, I mean, would stump quite a lot of... 02:19:23.770 --> 02:19:25.570 I mean, that one's fucked up. 02:19:25.710 --> 02:19:28.150 I mean, for the... Yeah, they've never seen anything like this. 02:19:28.670 --> 02:19:34.070 You know, all this kind of stuff And just asking for references of things that, 02:19:34.070 --> 02:19:38.570 you know, anybody in our generation would be instantly familiar with. 02:19:38.830 --> 02:19:44.010 But, you know, someone who's in their 20s right now, what the hell are you even 02:19:44.010 --> 02:19:45.570 talking about? This is ridiculous. 02:19:46.490 --> 02:19:50.070 You know, and I'm sure the, you know, to some degree the same was true, 02:19:50.070 --> 02:19:55.270 you know, comparing what we were familiar with with folks from 30 or 40 years previously. 02:19:55.610 --> 02:19:58.650 But the pace has accelerated, I think. 02:19:58.830 --> 02:20:00.270 The pace is way accelerated. 02:20:00.270 --> 02:20:02.770 Of course, everybody, every generation thinks that, right? 02:20:03.450 --> 02:20:07.030 Like loading a dot matrix, loading paper on a dot matrix printer. 02:20:07.170 --> 02:20:09.830 Can you imagine trying to get a millennial, hey, you need to print something 02:20:09.830 --> 02:20:13.190 on a dot matrix printer. Go load paper on a dot matrix printer. 02:20:14.410 --> 02:20:18.470 That probably just completely just, they're like, what? What is this? 02:20:19.190 --> 02:20:22.470 That would be, and that was one that was common that we have to do all the time. 02:20:23.070 --> 02:20:23.770 Yeah. Yeah. 02:20:24.600 --> 02:20:25.340 Floppies. 02:20:26.380 --> 02:20:32.240 Yeah. I've seen TikToks within the last week about people like being, 02:20:32.500 --> 02:20:37.820 you know, comparing the looking at the three and a quarter floppies and are 02:20:37.820 --> 02:20:41.200 like, or three and a half and are like, this isn't floppy. 02:20:41.340 --> 02:20:44.040 What are they talking about? And then people being, well, you see the, 02:20:44.040 --> 02:20:47.380 but the bigger ones are floppy and there's still a floppy thing inside it. 02:20:47.560 --> 02:20:48.980 There is a floppy thing inside. 02:20:49.400 --> 02:20:54.900 Yeah. Right. Right. You know, but it, you know, So, 02:20:55.140 --> 02:21:02.420 when we first did Curmudgeon's Corner in college, it was a little bit ironic 02:21:02.420 --> 02:21:07.540 because we were like 20, 21 years old, and Curmudgeon is like a cranky old guy. 02:21:07.720 --> 02:21:12.640 But now, decades later, we earned the title. 02:21:13.100 --> 02:21:16.340 We are, in fact, cranky old guys. 02:21:16.640 --> 02:21:18.880 The reality is that we were already cranky at age 20. 02:21:18.880 --> 02:21:20.980 We were always Curmudgeon's. Yeah. 02:21:21.220 --> 02:21:24.620 We were already cranky by then, anyway. so you know. 02:21:24.620 --> 02:21:32.520 Yes exactly we we we we embodied we may have been 20 but we already had the 02:21:32.520 --> 02:21:38.580 mind of like 70 year olds yes okay what the fuck is. 02:21:38.580 --> 02:21:41.060 This you know anyway stuff like that yeah. 02:21:41.060 --> 02:21:45.620 Kids these days goddamn fuckers yes 02:21:45.620 --> 02:21:48.640 anyway we're out of here uh thanks 02:21:48.640 --> 02:21:51.960 everybody for joining us have a great week oh 02:21:51.960 --> 02:21:55.140 this i guess the this coming week is thanksgiving for those 02:21:55.140 --> 02:22:01.960 of you in the u.s who celebrate so enjoy your your turkey or whatever else you 02:22:01.960 --> 02:22:07.580 have for your your thanksgiving meal if you have one we we had i i didn't tell 02:22:07.580 --> 02:22:12.020 the story here but we we had a we had a kitchen accident, 02:22:13.500 --> 02:22:19.760 that caused significant damage to our stove about a week and a half ago. 02:22:21.080 --> 02:22:26.500 And we are getting it repaired, but it won't be repaired until after Thanksgiving. 02:22:27.000 --> 02:22:28.240 Oh, my God. 02:22:28.620 --> 02:22:35.920 So it involved an exploding can of corn that hit brandy in the face when it 02:22:35.920 --> 02:22:39.520 exploded and broke the glass cooktop on the stove. 02:22:40.020 --> 02:22:45.900 Oh, jeez. Oh, so, well, Oh, okay. Wow. 02:22:46.040 --> 02:22:50.660 Everyone's fine. Everyone's fine. It was scary when it happened, 02:22:50.840 --> 02:22:52.480 but everything's fine. Yeah. 02:22:52.920 --> 02:22:56.800 We're having to like, you know, pay to get that fixed. And our refrigerator's 02:22:56.800 --> 02:23:00.140 failing at the same time. So we're also having to get a refrigerator. 02:23:00.380 --> 02:23:03.760 All good timing to happen right after I get laid off, of course. 02:23:03.960 --> 02:23:04.960 But, you know, whatever. 02:23:06.120 --> 02:23:09.080 We'll deal with what we have to deal with. Okay. 02:23:09.480 --> 02:23:10.000 All right. Good. 02:23:10.740 --> 02:23:15.140 Yeah. Is your refrigerator supposed to be almost 60 degrees? I don't think so. 02:23:15.320 --> 02:23:17.400 Right? No, no, no. 02:23:17.740 --> 02:23:20.200 And we could get that repaired too, but it's a piece of shit. 02:23:20.200 --> 02:23:22.920 So we're getting a new refrigerator. No Samsungs. 02:23:23.440 --> 02:23:24.860 Yeah, no Samsungs. 02:23:25.040 --> 02:23:27.260 Samsung sucks. Yes. Sorry. 02:23:27.580 --> 02:23:33.500 You know, I got a GE to replace the Samsung that basically that was problem 02:23:33.500 --> 02:23:36.160 after problem after problem after problem. 02:23:36.360 --> 02:23:36.680 Exactly. 02:23:37.000 --> 02:23:40.180 The GE, 10 years, not one service call. 02:23:40.180 --> 02:23:48.340 Not one anyway the point of all that was happy Thanksgiving enjoy your Thanksgiving 02:23:48.340 --> 02:23:54.960 happy Thanksgiving everybody yes and that's it here comes the goodbye music 02:23:54.960 --> 02:23:58.980 stuff thing thing here you go bye, 02:24:29.820 --> 02:24:33.440 There was corn everywhere. The entire kitchen covered in corn. 02:24:33.960 --> 02:24:34.880 It was fun. 02:24:35.740 --> 02:24:37.220 Okay, hitting stop. Bye. 02:24:37.940 --> 02:24:39.660 All right. Bye.