WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:02.170 So where are you? Are you in Puerto Rico again? 00:00:02.950 --> 00:00:03.210 No. 00:00:03.730 --> 00:00:03.950 No? 00:00:04.170 --> 00:00:05.790 No, I'm in Orlando right now. 00:00:06.030 --> 00:00:06.410 Oh, okay. 00:00:07.010 --> 00:00:11.650 I was in the Dominican Republic. I was in Puerto Rico. Now I'm in Orlando. 00:00:12.730 --> 00:00:15.170 Okay. Disney weekend? 00:00:16.190 --> 00:00:16.790 Mm-hmm. 00:00:18.050 --> 00:00:22.490 Yeah, okay. Here we go. Here's the music stuff. 00:00:43.450 --> 00:00:49.770 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, September 13th, 2025. 00:00:50.050 --> 00:00:55.070 It's just after 2.30 UTC as we're starting to record. I am Sam Mentor, 00:00:55.150 --> 00:00:56.570 Yvonne Boas here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:00:57.550 --> 00:00:57.950 Hi. 00:00:58.330 --> 00:00:59.310 You look tired. 00:01:01.630 --> 00:01:07.190 Sam asked me, where am I? And I'm like, I'm glad you knew. 00:01:07.370 --> 00:01:10.610 That's like, he's like, are you in Puerto Rico? And I'm like, 00:01:10.690 --> 00:01:11.810 no, I'm not in Puerto Rico. 00:01:12.030 --> 00:01:15.090 And I'm like, you know, I've been, I was in Dominican Republic. 00:01:15.730 --> 00:01:18.730 I was in Puerto Rico. I am now in Orlando. 00:01:21.550 --> 00:01:24.050 I should be home Sunday. 00:01:24.950 --> 00:01:25.330 Okay. 00:01:27.470 --> 00:01:34.690 my my wife i mentioned this briefly last week she's been in denmark all week she comes back having a. 00:01:34.690 --> 00:01:36.290 Much better time than we are. 00:01:36.290 --> 00:01:39.150 She's yeah she and and touring all over 00:01:39.150 --> 00:01:42.510 the country by the way not like she flew to copenhagen but 00:01:42.510 --> 00:01:48.350 then she's been every day she's in one or two different towns by bus as as this 00:01:48.350 --> 00:01:54.830 whole this whole group of like legislators and other civil civil servants gets 00:01:54.830 --> 00:02:01.270 tours of various transportation infrastructure and other crop around the country of Denmark. 00:02:02.220 --> 00:02:07.900 You know, good. You know, a lot of things that, uh, in terms of, 00:02:08.160 --> 00:02:13.580 I will say this, look, I experienced transportation across the world. Okay. 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:17.220 You know, I'm not going to say we have, we, you know, we, we sometimes are very 00:02:17.220 --> 00:02:21.360 hard on when it's like, we have the worst infrastructure. We don't, we don't have that. 00:02:21.460 --> 00:02:25.740 That's, that's always an exaggeration, but, well, we sure can learn certain 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:32.000 things about how other countries do certain things for sure to bring into the U S. 00:02:32.220 --> 00:02:36.860 My experience, especially in those countries around Europe and that area, 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:43.340 around Denmark, the Netherlands, I still always am amazed that the first time 00:02:43.340 --> 00:02:47.020 I went to the Netherlands, where I landed at Schiphol, 00:02:47.640 --> 00:02:52.260 and basically I went through immigration, I took this elevator downstairs, 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.840 and there was this sprawling train station there, and it took me wherever the 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:58.100 hell I wanted to go in the country. 00:02:58.100 --> 00:03:06.840 I mean, literally where I got to on the train was I did take a cab for a little 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.380 bit because I had a couple of bags. 00:03:09.780 --> 00:03:14.360 But if I had a smaller bag, I could have just walked to the hotel. 00:03:15.440 --> 00:03:16.500 Right. Yeah, yeah. 00:03:16.600 --> 00:03:22.080 You know, so it was just very easy to do. 00:03:22.220 --> 00:03:28.520 And I've been there twice, both times. It was not in Amsterdam. 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.840 It was in some other location. 00:03:31.340 --> 00:03:39.120 And same thing. Went down, took my train, got to the town, short distance. 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.800 It was just so convenient. 00:03:42.100 --> 00:03:44.500 That is, you know, definitely. 00:03:44.500 --> 00:03:50.860 Well, I'll tell you, like, you know, the trip is to, like, go see all kinds 00:03:50.860 --> 00:03:53.160 of things that are actually related to her job and such. 00:03:53.460 --> 00:03:59.100 But about an hour ago, she texted me and was like, is the podcast done yet? 00:03:59.300 --> 00:04:02.060 And I'm like, we haven't even started. We're not going to start for like an hour. 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:08.040 And she's like, oh. And I'm like, wait, isn't it like four in the morning there? 00:04:09.100 --> 00:04:10.340 No, the other way. 00:04:10.700 --> 00:04:11.100 No, no. 00:04:12.190 --> 00:04:13.210 yes oh. 00:04:13.210 --> 00:04:16.410 No yeah she's contact right oh i thought she's asking you four in the morning. 00:04:16.410 --> 00:04:19.270 No no i was asking her isn't it like four in 00:04:19.270 --> 00:04:22.370 the morning there why are you texting me right now and and 00:04:22.370 --> 00:04:25.270 she's like oh i was at the casino with a 00:04:25.270 --> 00:04:28.030 bunch of these folks and like so yeah 00:04:28.030 --> 00:04:32.810 she she was out all night at like one of apparently six casinos in the entire 00:04:32.810 --> 00:04:37.810 country of denmark like and she's like it was small i'm like did you win us 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:43.070 millions of dollars at least and she's like she started with 699 kroner and 00:04:43.070 --> 00:04:47.650 ended with 716 so I guess at least she was up you know but, 00:04:49.030 --> 00:04:50.170 but yeah I. 00:04:50.170 --> 00:04:59.910 Mean I you know I don't I don't do a lot of going out of like trips anymore hell. 00:04:59.910 --> 00:05:04.350 Every night she's been talking about like she's gone out to one place she's 00:05:04.350 --> 00:05:07.830 gone out with various people she's with the one. 00:05:07.830 --> 00:05:09.950 Thing is that she is traveling with a group. 00:05:10.330 --> 00:05:11.410 Yeah, she is traveling with a group. 00:05:11.510 --> 00:05:17.570 And so when I have wound up in past traveling with a group, then you guys we 00:05:17.570 --> 00:05:18.810 tend, you know, say, hey. 00:05:18.850 --> 00:05:22.930 What do we do this? You have dinner together, you go out and see the sights together a little bit. 00:05:23.350 --> 00:05:26.130 Exactly, right, right, right. So you tend to do that. But like, 00:05:26.230 --> 00:05:29.530 for example, like, I go on a damn business trip. I'm going by myself. 00:05:29.770 --> 00:05:33.130 I finish my fucking meetings. I'm going to the fucking hotel. 00:05:33.870 --> 00:05:35.290 I, you know. 00:05:35.410 --> 00:05:36.450 Get some food, go to bed. 00:05:37.370 --> 00:05:40.450 Yeah. Watch TV. That's it. 00:05:41.070 --> 00:05:46.430 I, you know, I will say when I was younger, I used to definitely go out all 00:05:46.430 --> 00:05:48.490 the time on the on these trips. 00:05:49.030 --> 00:05:54.210 But right now, I don't care. And I don't, you know, there are times when I, 00:05:54.350 --> 00:05:57.410 you know, like a couple of weeks ago, we had a dinner with a group. Okay, that was nice. 00:05:58.210 --> 00:06:01.190 But that's like, that's an outlier. Okay. All right. 00:06:01.310 --> 00:06:06.650 I don't, you know, I don't, you know, especially when I go to certain places where I go very often. 00:06:07.110 --> 00:06:09.210 It's like, what am I going to, it's like, some people ask me, 00:06:09.310 --> 00:06:12.210 it's like, is she going to take your family out to dinner? 00:06:12.770 --> 00:06:15.330 I'd come over here every couple of weeks. How many fucking times? 00:06:15.530 --> 00:06:16.810 You know, they got lives. 00:06:17.990 --> 00:06:21.030 Things. I mean, I don't see my parents that often. They live nearby. 00:06:21.330 --> 00:06:25.490 What am I going to do? I mean, it is a location where I go and I talk to them. I see them. 00:06:25.590 --> 00:06:31.110 I do stuff or whatever. but fuck I don't go every time so most of the time I 00:06:31.110 --> 00:06:38.990 just work go to a hotel go to find a restaurant nearby go watch TV. 00:06:39.530 --> 00:06:45.230 Understood so anyway as usual on this show we're going to do our little but 00:06:45.230 --> 00:06:49.450 first thing I'm going to talk about a couple movies I don't know what else Yvonne has to talk about. 00:06:49.450 --> 00:06:52.710 And then we'll talk about the serious stuff before I forget because it talked 00:06:52.710 --> 00:06:59.850 about the casino the last hotel I was in that I slept in before this one, 00:06:59.890 --> 00:07:04.390 Wednesday night, has a casino. A nice casino. 00:07:05.270 --> 00:07:12.430 And I've stayed at this hotel quite many times. I have not gambled a dollar at this casino. 00:07:12.730 --> 00:07:13.270 Right. 00:07:13.750 --> 00:07:18.170 And I used to like going to the casino a lot. And I haven't gambled a, 00:07:19.050 --> 00:07:23.190 And the one thing is that if I'm going to a hotel with a casino on 15, 00:07:23.350 --> 00:07:27.510 20 times a year, I don't want to be gambling at a casino 15, 20 times a year. 00:07:27.750 --> 00:07:32.170 The last time I went and gambled to the casino was about a month, 00:07:32.330 --> 00:07:37.670 about a few weeks ago, because I went to the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, 00:07:37.810 --> 00:07:41.710 Florida for a concert with my with my wife. And she wanted to gamble. 00:07:42.110 --> 00:07:44.870 And we very promptly lost one hundred dollars. 00:07:45.890 --> 00:07:46.410 Right. 00:07:46.410 --> 00:07:48.910 Inside like five minutes literally. 00:07:48.910 --> 00:07:52.290 That sounds like so much fun which. 00:07:52.290 --> 00:07:57.130 I was just like well fuck this no that's it i i have 100 bucks that's why i love it i'm like. 00:07:57.130 --> 00:08:01.850 You know speaking of that kind of stuff like we did have the powerball was over 00:08:01.850 --> 00:08:06.490 a billion dollars for a few drawings so i did spend some money on powerball 00:08:06.490 --> 00:08:15.610 tickets well for the very last drawing you know I spent $40 and won 18 for the, 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:16.850 for the couple of drawings. 00:08:17.150 --> 00:08:22.330 So I'm down, you know, it's, it's not actually up, but it's not the usual, 00:08:22.650 --> 00:08:26.390 which is the last couple of drawings before that I spent 40 bucks and got nothing, 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:33.910 you know, but I am, but my, my, my rule at this point, like it used to be if 00:08:33.910 --> 00:08:36.550 the lottery was over 500 million, I'd buy a ticket. 00:08:36.890 --> 00:08:40.690 Then that started happening way too often. So now it's, I'm only buying a ticket 00:08:40.690 --> 00:08:42.050 over, now it's a billion. 00:08:42.290 --> 00:08:46.450 I think I did a little while at $750, but then I decided that was happening too often too. 00:08:46.630 --> 00:08:48.390 Yeah, you know, a billion, come on. 00:08:49.210 --> 00:08:53.830 Yeah, if it's a billion, I'll put in the 40 bucks and, you know, 00:08:53.950 --> 00:08:58.150 and I know you can buy a single ticket for less, but I just max out what you 00:08:58.150 --> 00:09:01.650 can buy at the machine in one shot. And that's the 40 bucks. 00:09:02.510 --> 00:09:06.990 Well, anyway, because I'm here at a hotel and my son, I know at some point when 00:09:06.990 --> 00:09:12.510 I realized that I'm a hotel, we'll get irritated if I do a podcast for too long here. 00:09:12.710 --> 00:09:12.830 Okay. 00:09:12.890 --> 00:09:14.230 Let's try to get to your movies. 00:09:14.750 --> 00:09:19.890 Okay. We'll jump straight to the movies. One thing I do want to mention on movies. 00:09:19.890 --> 00:09:25.250 I've been talking for a long time that ever since 1998, I've been going through 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:28.510 that AFI 100 movies, 100 years, 100 movies list. 00:09:29.690 --> 00:09:33.930 I'm not going to talk about the movie until I get to it in order but I will 00:09:33.930 --> 00:09:42.530 say this week Alex and I watched number one we finished off the list and not only that, 00:09:43.590 --> 00:09:50.050 number one is Citizen Kane I won't review it right now but I will say by pure 00:09:50.050 --> 00:09:57.810 coincidence last weekend last Saturday night I was on the verge of going to bed And number one, 00:09:58.390 --> 00:10:00.290 Citizen Kane was the next one on our list. 00:10:00.530 --> 00:10:03.410 And I was scrolling TikTok before I fell asleep. 00:10:03.790 --> 00:10:10.730 And I hit a video that's like, hey, everybody, for one day only this month, 00:10:10.730 --> 00:10:14.190 if you want to see it, Citizen Kane is in the theaters. 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:19.810 So I went and checked what day it was. And it was that day. 00:10:20.290 --> 00:10:23.070 You know, like this was Saturday night. It was going to be Sunday. 00:10:23.350 --> 00:10:28.690 So we bought tickets and saw Citizen Kane in the theater. on last Sunday. 00:10:29.450 --> 00:10:32.310 Wow. Okay. Talk about a fucking coincidence. 00:10:32.550 --> 00:10:37.590 Yeah, exactly. And it was like, apparently, this is Regal Cinemas in conjunction 00:10:37.590 --> 00:10:39.210 with Turner Classic Movies. 00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:43.870 The entire month of September, every day is playing some classic movie. 00:10:44.270 --> 00:10:49.610 But it just happened that the day I saw this on TikTok was for Citizen Kane, 00:10:49.650 --> 00:10:51.250 and it was the next movie on the list. 00:10:51.390 --> 00:10:54.790 And I was like, screw it. We have to go see it at the theater. 00:10:55.290 --> 00:10:58.210 it's number one on the damn list after having gone through 00:10:58.210 --> 00:11:01.290 this list since 1998 you know 00:11:01.290 --> 00:11:04.450 and so we saw it in the theater and someday i 00:11:04.450 --> 00:11:07.330 will give my review of that but that is not one of the ones for today 00:11:07.330 --> 00:11:10.190 and by the way i think i mentioned this on the show again alex and 00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:14.150 i have agreed that we next 00:11:14.150 --> 00:11:17.270 time this comes up in our rotation we are 00:11:17.270 --> 00:11:20.510 starting the 2007 re-ranking from 00:11:20.510 --> 00:11:24.490 number 100 so okay okay 00:11:24.490 --> 00:11:27.570 but the next movie on the list is actually 00:11:27.570 --> 00:11:30.650 also from the 100 years 100 movies 00:11:30.650 --> 00:11:37.990 list uh but it's number 14 in the 1998 list number 22 into 2007 list which is 00:11:37.990 --> 00:11:45.730 some like it hot from 1959 okay it's a marilyn monroe movie with tony curtis 00:11:45.730 --> 00:11:48.750 and jack lemon and billy wilder Okay. 00:11:48.910 --> 00:11:50.790 Has Jack Lemmon in it too? 00:11:51.070 --> 00:11:53.690 Yes. Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, Billy Wilder. 00:11:54.510 --> 00:12:01.050 I don't remember if I was... Let me see. Did I ever see this movie? I don't think so. 00:12:01.410 --> 00:12:08.230 So I am going to give this... I am vacillating between a thumbs sideways and 00:12:08.230 --> 00:12:10.210 actually a thumbs down. Okay. 00:12:10.670 --> 00:12:10.990 Okay. 00:12:11.270 --> 00:12:16.850 This is intended to be a comedy, but it's all just, you know... 00:12:17.460 --> 00:12:21.640 Let me read you the first paragraph of the plot, and you'll see where this goes. 00:12:21.900 --> 00:12:27.540 In Prohibition, Chicago, Joe is a jazz saxophone player and an irresponsible, 00:12:27.780 --> 00:12:29.420 impulsive gambler and ladies' man. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.640 Jerry, his anxious friend, is a jazz double bass player. 00:12:33.900 --> 00:12:38.700 They work in a speakeasy owned by local mafia boss Spatz Columba. 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.040 Tipped off by informant Toothpick Charlie, the police raid the joint. 00:12:43.540 --> 00:12:47.920 Joe and Jerry escape, but accidentally witness Spatz and his henchmen gunning 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:50.080 down Toothpick and his gang in revenge. 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:54.360 An incident inspired by the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, which of course is real. 00:12:54.680 --> 00:12:56.920 Spatz and his gang see them as they flee. 00:12:57.560 --> 00:13:00.720 Broke, terrified, and desperate to leave Chicago, 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:06.900 Joe and Jerry disguise themselves as women named Josephine and Daphne so they 00:13:06.900 --> 00:13:13.460 can join Sweet Sue and her society's syncopators, an all-female band headed to Miami by train. 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:18.840 On the train, they befriend Sugar Cane, the band's vocalist and ukulele player, 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.500 who's played by Marilyn Monroe, of course. 00:13:21.620 --> 00:13:22.080 Marilyn Monroe. 00:13:22.460 --> 00:13:26.980 So this whole movie, it's supposed to be sort of a slapstick comedy, 00:13:26.980 --> 00:13:34.180 but all the comedy is about sort of the gender bending, like they're dressed 00:13:34.180 --> 00:13:36.360 up as women, people are confused, 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.960 with, oh look they're dressed up as women, 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:48.500 there's some gay jokes there's some trans jokes I mean they didn't even call it that but it's all, 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:55.120 just like stupid comedy about, oh my god they're wearing dresses and they're 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.420 in with all the women but they're actually like horny men, 00:13:59.140 --> 00:14:00.660 and that kind of stuff it's. 00:14:00.660 --> 00:14:02.240 Like something that could be comedic. 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:09.460 You know it's the kind of humor I can see where I can see, 00:14:10.260 --> 00:14:13.780 It just very much is the kind of humor that has not aged well. 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.420 I haven't watched it, so I have no idea. 00:14:18.860 --> 00:14:27.360 I mean, even if you sort of discount the sort of homophobic and transphobic elements of it, 00:14:27.540 --> 00:14:35.440 it's just the kind of stupid humor that I don't tend to enjoy all that much. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.120 Ah, it's just like, you know, there's some physical humor. 00:14:39.660 --> 00:14:43.340 There's, there's like, it's just very lowbrow. 00:14:43.880 --> 00:14:46.960 And, you know, meanwhile, you know, this apparently got like, 00:14:47.140 --> 00:14:51.760 it opened to critical and commercial success and is considered to be one of 00:14:51.760 --> 00:14:53.480 the greatest films of all time. 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:58.780 Received six Academy Award nominations, Best Actor, Best Director, Best Screenplay. 00:14:59.140 --> 00:15:03.240 You can give it a thumbs, okay, give it a thumbs, you can give it a thumbs down. 00:15:03.580 --> 00:15:10.640 Thumbs down. I mean, at best, a thumbs sideways. But I, thumbs down. 00:15:10.800 --> 00:15:12.200 Not your cup of tea. 00:15:12.340 --> 00:15:15.280 Not my kind of movie at all. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:20.560 I mean, and, you know, it's not even one of those where I can say not my kind 00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:24.320 of movie, but I can appreciate the artistry. I just felt like it was dumb. 00:15:24.380 --> 00:15:26.080 No, you just didn't like it. Okay. 00:15:26.420 --> 00:15:26.620 Yeah. 00:15:27.020 --> 00:15:27.860 Hey, fair. 00:15:29.280 --> 00:15:35.000 So, next, Ouija. How do you say it? Like Ouija boards? Ouija. I guess it's Ouija. 00:15:35.620 --> 00:15:37.580 Ouija from 2014. 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:45.000 Can I just say that until probably like in my late... It had to be I was over 18. 00:15:45.520 --> 00:15:45.680 Okay. 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.120 Alright. The way that we pronounce that in Puerto Rico. Aweja. 00:15:50.460 --> 00:15:51.540 Aweja. Okay. 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.040 Aweja. Aweja. 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:55.820 Okay. 00:15:56.500 --> 00:15:58.260 We're going to play Aweja. So 00:15:58.260 --> 00:16:03.040 when all of a sudden I heard people in the States call it a Ouija board. 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:03.600 Right. 00:16:03.640 --> 00:16:11.380 Like, I kept thinking, W-E-E-G-E, what the hell? What the hell is a fucking Ouija boy? 00:16:12.420 --> 00:16:16.080 So, that was very confusing to me for a while until I figured out what the hell 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:16.880 people are talking about. 00:16:17.380 --> 00:16:17.860 Yes. 00:16:18.040 --> 00:16:24.440 So, I still don't even understand how the hell that turns into Ouija, but it's O-U-I-J-A. 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:31.160 I mean, entomology. Well, it's because it comes from the French, 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:36.300 we, and German, ja, or ja, ja, ja. 00:16:36.300 --> 00:16:38.740 Ja, ja. Yeah, but okay, we, okay, but it's ja. 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:43.700 So it should be we, ja, not g. Wait, wait, wait, sorry. 00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:47.580 The popular belief that it comes from those two words is a misconception. 00:16:48.400 --> 00:16:54.100 Oh. In fact, the name was given from a word spelled out on the board when medium 00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:58.600 Helen Peters-Nosworthy asked the board to name itself. 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:03.020 When asked what the word meant, it responded, Good luck. 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.400 Okay. So the pronunciation is just whatever. 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.760 It's just a made-up word, and it's made-up pronunciation. 00:17:10.900 --> 00:17:13.120 And somebody made up the fucking pronunciation. Okay, great. 00:17:13.380 --> 00:17:15.080 Beautiful. All right. Awesome. 00:17:15.520 --> 00:17:20.220 Okay. So I will give the first... This is a 2014 movie. 00:17:20.600 --> 00:17:26.600 It will not go on anybody's top 100 list of anything. 00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:28.740 When we say that... 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:30.900 What about bottom 100 list? 00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:35.960 I don't think so. I mean, I'm probably going to give this one a thumb sideways. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.880 So I'm going to give this one a better ranking than the one that was 14 on the other damn list. 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:46.200 But it's a stupid horror movie. Okay. 00:17:46.860 --> 00:17:53.000 Like the first paragraph of the description again, Debbie recalls playing Ouija 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.180 with her best friend Lane as children. In present day, she throws her Ouija 00:17:57.180 --> 00:18:01.620 board into the fire and implies to Lane that something strange happened with the board. 00:18:01.840 --> 00:18:05.900 After Lane leaves, the Ouija board reappears in Debbie's bedroom. 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:12.600 Debbie becomes possessed and hangs herself inside her home. That's how it starts. 00:18:13.380 --> 00:18:15.520 Jesus Christ. Okay. 00:18:16.280 --> 00:18:22.240 And then, you know, they attend the funeral. And then the friends decide to 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.680 communicate with the Ouija board again. 00:18:25.020 --> 00:18:27.260 And the typical things that happen 00:18:27.260 --> 00:18:30.180 in horror movies proceed to happen throughout the rest of the movie. 00:18:30.520 --> 00:18:31.860 Okay. Okay. 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:39.800 And I'm, I'm giving this a thumbs sideways rather than a down because I remember 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:42.980 actually being somewhat amused and entertained by the movie. 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:44.960 Like, okay, well that's important. 00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:53.020 And like, now can I say like, you know, was I, I don't remember being like super scared. 00:18:54.370 --> 00:19:03.250 as opposed to pausing the movie frequently to confer with Alex on how stupid 00:19:03.250 --> 00:19:08.310 the characters were being and how they were going into situations where they 00:19:08.310 --> 00:19:10.690 were doing exactly the wrong thing at every turn. 00:19:10.930 --> 00:19:14.670 And just, you know, sort of your standard horror movie tropes of like, 00:19:14.870 --> 00:19:19.450 oh, look, there's something weird going on here. What shall we do? 00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:22.810 Oh, let's try to talk to the dead spirits. 00:19:23.430 --> 00:19:28.230 Oh, let's try to go into the haunted house. Oh, let's go deeper in. 00:19:28.410 --> 00:19:32.190 Oh, why don't we separate and go different directions so we can look in different 00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:35.410 parts of the house? You know, all this kind of stuff, you know? 00:19:35.730 --> 00:19:40.010 It's just your standard sort of people in a horror movie being stupid. 00:19:40.250 --> 00:19:42.750 And, of course, a bunch of them get killed. 00:19:43.070 --> 00:19:48.690 You know, the question is sort of what is the mystery that's behind all this 00:19:48.690 --> 00:19:52.650 in the end? And you find out and who survives and who doesn't. 00:19:52.810 --> 00:19:57.410 And, of course, they, I believe they're, am I incorrect? 00:19:58.070 --> 00:20:03.610 Yeah. And then, apparently, we have not yet seen it, but there is a prequel 00:20:03.610 --> 00:20:05.850 to this that has subsequently come out. 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:09.010 So, we will probably eventually see the prequel. 00:20:09.690 --> 00:20:14.110 Okay, all right. Yeah. Okay, all right. 00:20:14.750 --> 00:20:16.430 So, that's it. 00:20:16.610 --> 00:20:18.630 I'm sure I'll never watch this. 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:26.700 Oh, and I'll note, like, you know, the Wikipedia says, you know, 00:20:26.840 --> 00:20:30.180 based on Ouija, the game by Hasbro. 00:20:31.300 --> 00:20:37.260 Well, you know, they were making fun on this TV show, the studio on Apple TV. 00:20:37.820 --> 00:20:43.000 How one of the things that they decided was, I can't remember what other product, 00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:47.280 they were looking at the movies like the, you know, we recently had that Minecraft 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:49.580 movie and stuff like that. 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:54.880 So, the studio head was all excited because they bought the rights to be able 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.840 to make the Kool-Aid movie. 00:20:59.220 --> 00:20:59.740 Exactly. 00:21:00.020 --> 00:21:06.120 I could see, you know, you got that pitcher guy, you know, that breaks through the walls, you know? 00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:07.720 Yes, yes, yes. 00:21:08.020 --> 00:21:11.500 I could see that. Now, wait, 00:21:11.940 --> 00:21:16.960 since we're talking Kool-Aid and the Kool-Aid man, The very important question 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:23.200 that I've seen debated online earnestly by people, is the Kool-Aid man the pitcher 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.580 or is he the liquid inside the pitcher? 00:21:26.620 --> 00:21:28.200 God, I thought it was the whole thing. 00:21:28.540 --> 00:21:31.880 Or is he the pitcher and the liquid inside is his blood? 00:21:32.100 --> 00:21:34.740 Well, it's like, are you the body? Exactly. It's what I'm saying. 00:21:34.760 --> 00:21:37.020 Are you the body or the blood? No, it's everything. 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.640 I figured the liquid is kind of like the blood. 00:21:40.820 --> 00:21:44.180 So then when the Kool-Aid man is handing out Kool-Aid, he's handing out his blood? 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:45.160 Yes. 00:21:45.860 --> 00:21:48.520 Okay. That's fine, then. 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:48.940 Basically. 00:21:50.420 --> 00:21:54.920 Well, you know, their whole religion is based around drink my blood, you know? 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:56.560 Exactly. That's what I'm saying. 00:21:56.800 --> 00:21:56.900 Exactly. 00:21:58.810 --> 00:22:04.910 Okay, well, anyway, I think that's enough movies. Let's see, a preview, what's next? 00:22:05.610 --> 00:22:15.550 Astro Boy from 2009, next week, and also the 1958 French-language version of Les Miserables. 00:22:16.710 --> 00:22:18.190 1958, okay. 00:22:18.910 --> 00:22:22.070 Non-musical, dramatic version, not the musical. 00:22:22.290 --> 00:22:28.450 Not the dramatic one. I mean, I actually, Jesus Christ, I read the book in French class. Still remember. 00:22:29.970 --> 00:22:34.290 You know, anyway, that's that's for next time. So let's take a break real quick 00:22:34.290 --> 00:22:36.010 and then we'll talk serious stuff. 00:22:36.170 --> 00:22:38.790 Obviously, there was a bunch of serious stuff that happened this week. 00:22:39.870 --> 00:22:43.270 And Yvonne, you'll be able to tell us where to start when we get back. 00:22:43.790 --> 00:22:45.010 Oh, whoopee. 00:22:45.390 --> 00:22:48.010 Yeah, I know. Back after this. 00:22:48.530 --> 00:22:52.410 You're supposed to say do do do. Do do do. 00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:58.070 Alex Amzala. Alex Amzala is awesome. 00:22:58.810 --> 00:23:05.830 Its videos are fun. And today, once again, we have one of our most loyal subscribers 00:23:05.830 --> 00:23:08.410 here to tell you how awesome Alex Emsla is. 00:23:08.790 --> 00:23:16.750 I'd say on a rate from 1 to 10, Alex Emsla is awesome at, I don't know, 37, 82. 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:22.390 He's pretty radical. His videos are phenomenal. They're full of creativity. 00:23:22.810 --> 00:23:26.590 And they're so funny and exciting to watch. 00:23:27.270 --> 00:23:32.990 Wow, what happened to your voice then, Amy? Was that Dad pretending to be you 00:23:32.990 --> 00:23:39.530 because the audio was distorted when it really wasn't because I told him to? 00:23:40.010 --> 00:23:43.570 Yes! Good job on remembering, Dad. 00:23:44.290 --> 00:23:45.910 Do-do-do! 00:23:46.810 --> 00:23:54.410 Okay. We are back. What more serious newsy topic would you like to start with, Yvonne? 00:23:54.590 --> 00:23:59.610 We've got the Epstein book. We've got Russia, like, sending drones into Poland. 00:23:59.790 --> 00:24:01.210 We've got Charlie Kirk, of course. 00:24:01.610 --> 00:24:05.970 And a few other things, too. I think those are the three biggest ones. 00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:11.010 Talk about the big elephant in the room. Talk about Charlie Kirk. Okay. 00:24:11.750 --> 00:24:22.850 You know, the thing this week, first of all, my, my, I don't understand still at this point. 00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:28.370 And it's something that is, I think we've seen other things like this happen in the past. 00:24:28.370 --> 00:24:36.590 I've said this before, where I don't understand why it's become so hard in recent 00:24:36.590 --> 00:24:43.310 times for when the death of somebody notable, whether it's good or bad in any way. 00:24:44.110 --> 00:24:48.310 Turns into this political game. 00:24:48.830 --> 00:24:56.370 You know, people can't just go and, like, number one, be appalled at the violence. 00:24:56.370 --> 00:25:03.190 It's just very, it's not that hard to be appalled at the political violence that caused this. 00:25:03.770 --> 00:25:09.730 But, you know, at the same time, it doesn't whitewash this, you know, 00:25:09.790 --> 00:25:15.670 how the person lived just because he was, you know, murdered in a way that is deplorable. 00:25:16.130 --> 00:25:22.290 You know, it doesn't do that. But also, the fact that the entire, 00:25:22.590 --> 00:25:26.290 because this was the entire Republican Party's reaction, 00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:31.950 first was not to wait to see who it was and start flinging all sorts of false 00:25:31.950 --> 00:25:38.670 accusations that the person that committed the murder was some trans, you know, 00:25:38.990 --> 00:25:43.990 the first thing they said, it must have been a transgender person for whatever the hell reason. 00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:50.090 By the way, how many transgender murderers have we had in recent years, 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:53.670 Sam, that have done anything like a school shooting? 00:25:54.130 --> 00:25:56.890 Anything, Sam? Is there a lot of those? 00:25:56.990 --> 00:26:00.210 This obviously was the back and forth he was having right when the guy was shot. 00:26:00.650 --> 00:26:05.990 The answer the person in the audience gave, and I believe we'd looked this up 00:26:05.990 --> 00:26:10.550 on the Corregions Car Slack a couple weeks ago, too, when we came up with that 00:26:10.550 --> 00:26:12.370 last school shooting or whatever. 00:26:13.210 --> 00:26:16.350 In terms of mass murders since 1970 or whatever, 00:26:16.770 --> 00:26:21.170 or no, not mass murders, specifically mass shootings, 00:26:21.510 --> 00:26:29.310 there were something like five over the course of decades, as opposed to 1,500 00:26:29.310 --> 00:26:32.650 plus in the same time frame of cis white men. 00:26:33.260 --> 00:26:37.380 You know, so it's like a tiny percentage. 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:42.920 And, you know, there's a whole other thing on the radical leftists that go and 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.220 do murder. You look at the stats, the same thing. 00:26:45.860 --> 00:26:50.680 Basically, the whole damn lot of them are right wing. 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:57.000 So someone specifically looked at political violence and specifically political 00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.220 murders going back the last few decades. 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:06.360 It wasn't quite as dramatic as cis versus trans, but in the United States, 00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:12.840 right-leaning domestic terrorism was typically about double left-leaning political terrorism. 00:27:12.840 --> 00:27:19.380 Exactly but all these people without even knowing who they are let's wait for 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:24.960 the facts let's talk about it started just making up all these accusations and 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:32.100 threatening I mean just the threats of violence this is war, 00:27:32.840 --> 00:27:42.220 I'm just and in threatening war accusing the left of this is the of bad rhetoric and I'm like, 00:27:42.840 --> 00:27:47.340 You want to tell me where, you know, I mean, we literally had a week when the 00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:53.980 president of the United States threatened the city of Chicago with the U.S. armed forces. 00:27:54.360 --> 00:27:58.500 Yes. Although now he's sending them to Memphis, I think, right? Tennessee. 00:27:59.020 --> 00:28:08.240 Who knows? And, you know, and these people have the balls to go and, like, 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:14.940 try to tell me that the left is inciting this violence when it's, 00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:17.640 like, literally everything, you know what? 00:28:18.510 --> 00:28:22.450 I said, you know, today we were talking about this. 00:28:22.550 --> 00:28:27.510 We don't know the reason why this kid unfortunately chose to do this. 00:28:28.290 --> 00:28:34.190 What, you know, and by the way, as soon as they found out it was this white 00:28:34.190 --> 00:28:40.330 dude, the rhetoric went from kill them all, burn them all, prosecute them, whatever. 00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:48.570 Oh, what turned this sweet boy into such a bad kid? right because it was a white dude. 00:28:48.570 --> 00:28:51.470 Right immediately i mean 00:28:51.470 --> 00:28:54.270 well not not only i'm not even acknowledging any 00:28:54.270 --> 00:28:57.610 not only a white dude but a white dude from a conservative gun 00:28:57.610 --> 00:29:05.650 loving family right right exactly is and i just saw like i was gonna say the 00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:10.450 thing about his his father being a retired sheriff or whatnot but just within 00:29:10.450 --> 00:29:14.610 the last couple hours apparently the sheriff's office where he supposedly worked 00:29:14.610 --> 00:29:17.230 was like, no, he wasn't. So I don't know. 00:29:17.350 --> 00:29:23.670 No, I actually saw in some other place that he had some kind of business, 00:29:24.050 --> 00:29:25.450 okay, all right, is what he did. 00:29:25.810 --> 00:29:29.310 So I think that whole thing about the police was mistaken. 00:29:29.830 --> 00:29:32.390 But regardless, I'm just, you know. 00:29:32.610 --> 00:29:35.830 Oh, apparently he had the same name as somebody who was the sheriff. 00:29:35.970 --> 00:29:40.010 And that's why I got confused. Okay. Look, this, you know, 00:29:41.330 --> 00:29:49.030 events like this, really, call for trying to bring calm, 00:29:49.850 --> 00:29:57.330 the right reaction should be to not inflame the situation, but to calm it down. 00:29:58.030 --> 00:30:03.870 You know, and the thing is that regardless of what is it that radicalized them, 00:30:03.970 --> 00:30:07.750 what I said is that I guarantee you that two 00:30:07.750 --> 00:30:17.110 factors that are absolutely a factor in these in all of these happening is this 00:30:17.110 --> 00:30:23.690 entire glorification of guns and this entire just culture of hate that we have 00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:26.750 right now in so many platforms and so many things. 00:30:27.270 --> 00:30:32.710 The exact details about it, you know, probably, you know, change exactly whatever. 00:30:33.030 --> 00:30:38.470 But those two factors are critical factors in driving, you know, 00:30:39.010 --> 00:30:42.850 these kinds of kids to do these kinds of acts. 00:30:43.270 --> 00:30:48.510 I mean, just like the kid that tried to shoot Trump, you know, last year. 00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:51.550 Well, one of the things that's been pointed out, and as you said, 00:30:51.750 --> 00:30:55.050 we don't really know his motives yet. 00:30:55.190 --> 00:30:58.370 There are a lot of people speculating based on incomplete information, right? Right. 00:30:59.330 --> 00:31:04.430 Some of the latest stuff is that he might be like affiliated with these this 00:31:04.430 --> 00:31:07.090 griper trend or whatever with Nick Fuentes, 00:31:07.410 --> 00:31:14.690 which is basically a group that is was complaining that Charlie Kirk was too liberal. 00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:19.000 You know, he wasn't conservative enough. 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:26.420 Listen, but these guys were freaked out enough that, you know, 00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:28.920 Laura Loomer and these guys started deleting tweets, right? 00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:33.220 Yes, yes. I know Laura Loomer had been really critical of Charlie Kirk for the 00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:38.380 last month or so, saying he wasn't a real Trump supporter and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:31:38.580 --> 00:31:41.420 There was a variety of stuff. But I just want to say on this guy, 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:46.280 maybe he is this griper thing or however the hell you say it. 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.480 There are also a few, you know, people pointed out like some of the bullets 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.320 had sort of anti-fascist slogans on them and stuff like that. 00:31:54.460 --> 00:32:00.340 But apparently all of those things were related to online gaming meme culture 00:32:00.340 --> 00:32:06.080 and in some cases are typically used ironically. So it's hard to say what that really means. 00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:09.540 Like in one, in one of the games, it's, it's apparently like, 00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:14.620 this is an anti-fascist slogan, but it's used by people who are clearly fascists in the context. 00:32:14.940 --> 00:32:20.020 So it's like part of the end joke that it's an anti-fascist slogan being used by fascists. 00:32:20.500 --> 00:32:26.400 But, you know, maybe he is like, maybe he did have like a switch and it turns 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.000 out he is anti-fascist. Right. 00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:31.980 But you don't know. But like one of the things 00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:40.540 that's being that's somewhat a trend in some of these recent events is people 00:32:40.540 --> 00:32:46.960 where you actually can't really nail them down on any sort of consistent ideology 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.100 ideology on a left right spectrum. 00:32:49.100 --> 00:32:50.380 No, you're right. 00:32:50.560 --> 00:32:57.160 It's more like it's a random hodgepodge of views, some typically associated 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.820 with the right, some typically associated with the left, but like a big ongoing... 00:33:02.820 --> 00:33:08.060 But wait, I was just going to say, but the big ongoing theme being burn the 00:33:08.060 --> 00:33:13.900 fucking system down, we hate everything, you know, like let's... 00:33:13.900 --> 00:33:16.940 And glorification, like you said, of violence. 00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:20.380 And look, it's glorifying the violence, glorifying the hate, 00:33:20.540 --> 00:33:24.880 but also, by the way, I think a big thing about our current culture is the attention. 00:33:25.620 --> 00:33:25.960 Yes. 00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:33.360 Because this is a huge thing where, you know, the social media culture is, 00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.960 what can I do to draw more attention, more attention, more attention? 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:40.540 Well, hey, you ought to talk about getting attention today. 00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:44.100 You know, he certainly, he certainly, you know, did that. 00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:49.260 And, you know, heck, there were a lot of people that glorified, 00:33:49.260 --> 00:33:51.120 like, the Columbine shooters. 00:33:51.280 --> 00:33:51.860 For example. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.820 And such kind of murderers. 00:33:53.820 --> 00:33:55.780 And there were copycats for years. 00:33:56.300 --> 00:34:02.300 Yeah. Yeah. And so there is this culture of glorifying a lot of this as well, 00:34:02.300 --> 00:34:06.560 where they think that they're going to be seen as heroes, martyrs, something. 00:34:06.760 --> 00:34:10.700 I don't know. And just the whole thing about being, you know, 00:34:10.820 --> 00:34:12.820 getting the attention is more than anything. 00:34:12.820 --> 00:34:17.540 Even when they go into it knowing it's going to be like suicide by cop or whatever, 00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.220 it's going out in a blaze of glory. 00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:21.620 Blaze of glory. Yeah. 00:34:21.740 --> 00:34:22.040 You know? 00:34:22.200 --> 00:34:22.360 Yeah. 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.840 And so we will learn more about this guy in particular. 00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:31.540 But the whole political response from Trump all the way down, 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.480 I mean, it's just so appalling. 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:38.880 Well, it almost seems like once it came out, like you said, you know, 00:34:39.240 --> 00:34:46.580 white guy, middle class family, conservative-ish family, Utah Mormon, you know. 00:34:46.700 --> 00:34:50.340 Trump, by the way, couldn't give a shit, like, very, very, very soon after. 00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:54.600 Well, that's what I was going to say. It's almost like you could feel the disappointment 00:34:54.600 --> 00:35:00.880 because they were all riling themselves up to use this as an excuse to crack 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.120 down on Democrats and liberals everywhere. 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:10.360 You know, there were people reposting things from, let me find one of them that 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.280 I shared on the Curmudgeon Corner Slack a little bit ago. But there. 00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:18.420 All the very aggressive things, posts. Yeah. 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.200 Yeah. Let me find one of them real quick and then I'll read a bunch of these. 00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:28.280 Here we go. I like the one about the Reichstag fire. Is that one there? 00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:32.600 About the guy, this is our Reichstag fire. I'm realizing these people don't 00:35:32.600 --> 00:35:34.180 know what the Reichstag fire was. 00:35:34.600 --> 00:35:40.500 Well, or they don't care. Like it was the Nazi, you know, yeah, they don't care. 00:35:40.740 --> 00:35:45.060 You know, it was an excuse to consolidate power. 00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:48.960 And that's, you know, so here's the thing. 00:35:49.120 --> 00:35:54.340 And someone pointed out, these aren't just random right-leaning accounts saying 00:35:54.340 --> 00:36:00.080 the things I'm going to read. These are some of the most, these are a lot of 00:36:00.080 --> 00:36:03.240 really popular accounts that I'm going to quote from. 00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:05.940 Libs of TikTok, this is war. 00:36:06.700 --> 00:36:13.260 Joey Manorino. The Democrat Party must be classified as a domestic terror organization 00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:17.660 and their members, leaders treated accordingly. Enough is enough. 00:36:17.980 --> 00:36:20.260 Brian Eastwood. Charlie Kirk. 00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:25.480 Can I stop you on that one? Can I stop you on that one? Enough is enough because of what? 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:34.660 Can you please list the entire streak of violence incited by the damn Democratic Party? 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:40.560 I mean, it's just the utter gall of these comments. Go ahead. 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.240 Here's another one. And like some of these I recognize, some I don't. 00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:47.920 I've seen this shared a few places with people saying like, trust me, 00:36:48.040 --> 00:36:50.460 like a lot, these folks have lots of followers. Okay. 00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:53.720 And I do recognize a bunch of the names, just not all of them. 00:36:54.120 --> 00:36:58.540 Brian Eastwood, Charlie Kirk getting shot is the shot heard around the country. 00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:02.340 I'm ready for civil war. You want to fight and you're going to get it. 00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:08.100 Oilfield Rando. I don't want the National Guard sent to Democrat cities anymore. 00:37:08.100 --> 00:37:09.840 I want the Air Force sent. 00:37:10.620 --> 00:37:14.920 Sean Davis, when Democrats lose elections, they couldn't steal. 00:37:15.100 --> 00:37:17.460 They murder the people they were unable to defeat. 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:20.400 Ron... 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:25.220 Can he also... By the way, can he provide me a list of the people we have murdered 00:37:25.220 --> 00:37:31.540 from this last election since the November 6th Joe Biden loss? 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.520 Can I please have the detailed list? 00:37:34.600 --> 00:37:39.000 Sam, what fucking delusional world are these people living on? 00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:44.920 Or is it just that, you know what, the lie needs to be just. 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.760 You know, as big as possible? Obviously, I haven't been watching the last little bit, 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:57.180 but I saw a post on Mastodon in the last hour saying that Fox News tonight is 00:37:57.180 --> 00:38:02.060 continuing along with the rhetoric about it being the liberals' fault despite this. 00:38:02.060 --> 00:38:08.580 You know, and I'll add, you know, Donald Trump's initial statement was all about 00:38:08.580 --> 00:38:12.480 how it's, there were a few statements about we all have to calm down, 00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:14.760 but there was a lot about how it's the radical left. 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.120 And, you know, he was talking on Fox and talking about how, yeah, 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.580 well, yeah, there's a radical right too, but they're not really a problem. 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:25.080 The radical left is the right. 00:38:25.080 --> 00:38:29.160 No, no, no. No, no, no. Let me be clear. He said beyond that, 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.760 he said, hold on, i couldn't care less. 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.400 Right and they're. 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.460 80 of the source of the violence and i couldn't care less. 00:38:39.460 --> 00:38:44.360 Here here are a couple more of those gunther eagleman they've declared war, 00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:49.500 esthetica there's no going back after this there's no more words to be said 00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:54.680 the only way this ends is the complete annihilation of the democrat party you know no, 00:38:55.490 --> 00:39:02.290 And look, I'm sure you can find folks on the left who've said incendiary things, too. 00:39:02.790 --> 00:39:08.150 I mean, not that not as popular, not as with many followers and not as many 00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:10.870 leaders saying these kinds of things. 00:39:11.510 --> 00:39:18.490 It's the stuff like Nancy Mace, for example, coming out and like saying shit like this herself. OK. 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:23.030 And, you know, look, I've said I've said on this show. 00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:24.490 Donald Trump said it himself. 00:39:24.490 --> 00:39:29.350 Well, yeah. And look, I have said on this show myself that this this is actually 00:39:29.350 --> 00:39:34.370 like a battle for the soul of the civilization and someone will win and someone will lose. 00:39:34.510 --> 00:39:37.790 But I'm not suggesting we go out and murder all the Republicans. 00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:40.830 But I do want their ideology extinguished. 00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:44.750 I think it's toxic and needs to go away, but not necessarily. 00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:50.310 The lead senator from Utah, another prominent one, he was also one that said 00:39:50.310 --> 00:39:56.530 some very vicious things, okay, about this, which then he walked back, 00:39:56.550 --> 00:39:58.710 but he said shit like this, too. 00:39:58.890 --> 00:40:05.790 And I'm sorry, but there is no senator or Democratic leader, 00:40:05.810 --> 00:40:10.150 you know, you can find that says anything. 00:40:10.150 --> 00:40:14.910 Well, in fact, there are a bunch more of these quotes, but I don't have to read all of them. 00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:18.870 In fact, we had the exact fucking opposite. 00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:25.870 We had every freaking Democratic leader, first of all, bending over backwards 00:40:25.870 --> 00:40:31.370 to condemn this, say this is not violence is never the solution. This is horrible. 00:40:31.610 --> 00:40:36.970 I don't need to bend over backwards to condemn the violence. I'm sorry. Yeah, right. 00:40:38.670 --> 00:40:43.790 That was the wrong word. It was an automatic condemn to violence. 00:40:43.970 --> 00:40:47.070 There was no bending over backwards for that. The bending over backwards came 00:40:47.070 --> 00:40:51.850 when quite a few of them went further than that and started talking about how 00:40:51.850 --> 00:40:53.610 great a guy Charlie Kirk was. 00:40:53.750 --> 00:40:56.530 Well, that's the one where I'm just like, no, hey, hey, hey, stop. 00:40:57.270 --> 00:41:02.750 You know, and how he exemplified the desire for people to talk. 00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:05.970 No, no, no, no, none of that. No, no, no. 00:41:06.130 --> 00:41:09.870 And we should put the flags at half-mast all over the country. 00:41:10.430 --> 00:41:17.510 I'm like, yeah, no, no, no, no, none of that. But yes, this is something that I find appalling. 00:41:17.810 --> 00:41:23.750 But my point is that Democrats, unanimous, I have seen there were. 00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:24.710 It was unanimous. 00:41:24.710 --> 00:41:26.950 There, I've seen a few people. 00:41:27.150 --> 00:41:28.290 I'm sure there's an exception. 00:41:28.490 --> 00:41:32.910 Yeah, there are a few people who are, you know, there are always some exceptions. 00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:34.770 There have been no prominent exceptions. 00:41:36.170 --> 00:41:43.710 But without exception, like elected Democrats and prominent Democratic pundits 00:41:43.710 --> 00:41:48.550 have said, this is inexcusable. This is never a solution. 00:41:48.810 --> 00:41:51.510 The violence is bad. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:41:51.510 --> 00:41:56.990 And like I said, a good deal of them went further and started talking about, 00:41:57.190 --> 00:42:00.050 like, saying good things about this guy. 00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:08.310 And I think that's excessive because I think you can have—both things can be true. 00:42:09.010 --> 00:42:15.290 That killing somebody like this is inexcusable, counterproductive, 00:42:15.290 --> 00:42:20.490 and horrible and can only lead to bad things. 00:42:20.490 --> 00:42:22.530 So more, more bad things. 00:42:22.830 --> 00:42:31.150 And also this guy was a scumbag. Absolutely had everything he stood for was 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:36.730 horrific, you know, and is complete opposite of my own values. 00:42:36.730 --> 00:42:43.210 And I feel like he was a destructive force in society and, you know, was negative. 00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:45.390 And these things can go. 00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:49.770 Listen, there's something I saw tonight. Somebody, there were two founders of 00:42:49.770 --> 00:42:53.610 Turning Point USA. And you can confirm that this is true. 00:42:53.750 --> 00:42:56.110 Yeah, I saw your quote on this. I don't know if it's true. 00:42:56.930 --> 00:43:00.190 Well, you check to see if Bill Montgomery died of COVID because he said, 00:43:00.530 --> 00:43:03.670 Bill Montgomery was against masks and vaccines and died of COVID. 00:43:04.590 --> 00:43:08.130 Charlie Kirk was anti-gun regulation and killed by a gun. 00:43:08.390 --> 00:43:12.730 Not only is he anti-gun, he actually, there is a quote directly by him saying 00:43:12.730 --> 00:43:17.270 that the cost of the Second Amendment is that we're going to have a few people 00:43:17.270 --> 00:43:18.630 killed. That was basically. 00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:24.430 Bill Montgomery for as per Wikipedia, co-founded Turning Point USA, 00:43:24.430 --> 00:43:27.610 died of COVID on July 28th, 2020. 00:43:28.030 --> 00:43:31.230 I don't know whether it's true. 00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:31.690 Oh, yeah. 00:43:32.010 --> 00:43:33.210 He spoke out against all the stuff. 00:43:33.470 --> 00:43:35.170 Probably. Oh, I'm sure he had a problem. 00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:41.380 If it was by July, that's when the tide had already turned about. 00:43:41.460 --> 00:43:46.880 All these guys were all anti-everything, anti-mask, anti-vav, whatever. 00:43:48.660 --> 00:43:53.960 And he was 80 when he died. So he wasn't a young one like Charlie Kirk. 00:43:54.820 --> 00:44:00.900 Yeah. No vaccines available by the time he died, I don't think so. July 2020? 00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.960 July 2020. So that was really early in the... 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.460 Yeah, that was really early in, yeah. But anyway, I, okay, look, 00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:13.420 I don't even want to, I don't want to keep talking about Charlie Kirk because 00:44:13.420 --> 00:44:17.520 I honestly, because he doesn't deserve it. 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.680 I mean, to me spending this much time on him. So let's move on to another subject. 00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:26.480 Okay. Do you want to just go ahead and take a break and then I pick something 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.920 else entirely and we, we move right along? Okay. 00:44:30.140 --> 00:44:30.300 Yeah. 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.780 So let's see. What's that? What's the next break? We already did one break. 00:44:34.780 --> 00:44:37.700 So, okay, the next one is this one. 00:44:37.860 --> 00:44:41.000 We'll be back right after this, and I guess I'll pick a topic. 00:44:41.340 --> 00:44:45.620 And, yeah, I'll leave you in suspense for a few minutes on what that will be. 00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:46.940 Here you go. Suspense. 00:44:47.640 --> 00:44:50.440 However long this break is. I don't know. 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So, so, Sam. 00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:42.120 Have I left you in suspense long enough? Has it been long enough? 00:46:42.260 --> 00:46:42.420 I'm tingling. 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.500 I could keep it going longer. 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.040 I'm tingling. 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:46.980 Tingling? 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:48.000 Yeah. 00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:54.340 That's nice. I'm happy for you. Enjoy the tingle. 00:46:55.300 --> 00:46:58.740 No, I figure we had the Epstein book come out. 00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:08.820 Oh, my God. You know, the news that we have to discuss are so disgusting. 00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:11.800 thing oh my god that Epstein book. 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:17.560 So we had we had heard about the one page from Donald Trump we hadn't seen the 00:47:17.560 --> 00:47:22.940 actual picture of it we'd heard it described but we got released the entire 00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:30.320 book not just the Donald Trump page but all these other people who contributed it with various things. 00:47:31.380 --> 00:47:33.000 Holy shit Sam, 00:47:34.240 --> 00:47:35.560 That book was disgusting. 00:47:36.600 --> 00:47:40.340 I did not go through all the pages. I saw some highlights. 00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:45.660 Neither did I, but I saw some of the highlights. The lowlights. Holy shit. 00:47:45.720 --> 00:47:49.060 There was a piece of artwork, just as an example, 00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:57.840 that had Epstein giving balloons to obviously small girl children and with a year marked, 00:47:57.860 --> 00:48:02.660 and then another year marked like 10 years later where they've all grown up 00:48:02.660 --> 00:48:08.720 but not grown up too much and they're all hanging over him like in scantily dress. 00:48:08.740 --> 00:48:11.460 And massaging him in scantily dress. 00:48:11.600 --> 00:48:18.240 The one theme throughout this entire book was, oh yeah, we're making jokes about 00:48:18.240 --> 00:48:20.100 how we know you like little girls. 00:48:20.460 --> 00:48:23.340 Basically. Holy shit! Yes! 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.600 And some of them implying that, you know, 00:48:27.180 --> 00:48:30.220 they had some experiences together but all of 00:48:30.220 --> 00:48:32.900 them with with the possible there were a 00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:35.900 couple of exceptions that were more innocent like there was 00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:39.040 a letter from bill clinton in this book he he 00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:42.220 was one of the few did that 00:48:42.220 --> 00:48:46.200 did not seem to be making a sly joke about 00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:49.080 epstein's pedophilia okay he said 00:48:49.080 --> 00:48:53.440 some other things about how his contributions to society or some bullshit but 00:48:53.440 --> 00:49:01.760 like almost everything in this book the most generous interpretation is they 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:08.240 knew he liked little girls and were making jokes about it. That's the most generous interpretation. 00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:12.080 Let's be clear. The Trump one, okay, that was in there. 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:17.560 The one, the real one versus the sketch that we saw. 00:49:18.640 --> 00:49:23.840 The artist's recreation showed a woman that from her features was older. 00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:25.380 Right. Yes. 00:49:25.820 --> 00:49:33.280 And the one that was drawn by Trump, actually pretty much showed I mean, 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.640 not a pre-pubescent girl, but definitely a young teenager. 00:49:37.040 --> 00:49:39.400 A young teenager. Yes. 00:49:40.520 --> 00:49:44.380 I, I, this thing is just, 00:49:45.890 --> 00:49:52.670 It's revolting. I just, you know, it was just revolting. 00:49:53.130 --> 00:49:59.110 And, of course, now all of a sudden we have the book, we have Trump's signature, 00:50:00.030 --> 00:50:05.030 and everybody's now arguing, oh, well, that's not Trump's signature. 00:50:05.230 --> 00:50:08.210 I mean, it's a fucking— It's ridiculous. 00:50:08.530 --> 00:50:09.750 It's absolutely ridiculous. 00:50:10.310 --> 00:50:15.310 I mean, it's a spot-on match. It's a spot-on match. 00:50:15.310 --> 00:50:21.250 People instantly produced dozens of contemporary examples from the same time frame. 00:50:21.670 --> 00:50:25.710 The difference compared to his current signature, this is where he's just signing 00:50:25.710 --> 00:50:28.550 Donald as opposed to signing Donald Trump. 00:50:28.830 --> 00:50:33.750 And it's like, you know, what, 20 years ago. So it's evolved a little bit over time. 00:50:33.870 --> 00:50:39.070 But, you know, a whole bunch of people ranging from Mary Trump, 00:50:39.510 --> 00:50:42.550 his like, what is he, a cousin? Whatever she is. 00:50:42.610 --> 00:50:43.150 Niece. 00:50:43.270 --> 00:50:46.950 Niece, cousin, whatever. whatever niece niece niece 00:50:46.950 --> 00:50:50.050 what's his name cohen produced some 00:50:50.050 --> 00:50:53.770 examples some several journalists produced examples like 00:50:53.770 --> 00:50:57.710 there were dozens of easily available versions 00:50:57.710 --> 00:51:00.650 of his signature from about the same time where he just signed 00:51:00.650 --> 00:51:04.490 donald and they all looked identical you don't even need to be an expert could 00:51:04.490 --> 00:51:08.210 it have been right and someone pointed out like oh yes what's the theory here 00:51:08.210 --> 00:51:16.130 But someone forged this 20 years ago with a nefarious plan of waiting 20 years 00:51:16.130 --> 00:51:20.170 and then exposing it as a fake Donald Trump thing, 00:51:20.370 --> 00:51:22.770 knowing that 20 years from now, he's going to be president. 00:51:23.150 --> 00:51:25.710 Well, of course. I mean, that's how Democrats work. 00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:26.550 Yes. 00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:30.310 I don't think I don't think you understand how good a conspiracy we are. 00:51:30.450 --> 00:51:32.770 I mean, we see into the future. 00:51:33.170 --> 00:51:33.630 Right. 00:51:33.630 --> 00:51:43.950 And with all that George Soros AI money back from the 1990s AI, we could predict this. 00:51:44.330 --> 00:51:49.990 I don't think you understand. I don't think you understand how good that George Soros AI money is. 00:51:50.770 --> 00:51:56.270 Right. Yeah. I mean, look, the thing that comes together off all of this, 00:51:56.370 --> 00:52:02.970 and this goes back to what some of the survivors were saying last week as well, that we talked about. 00:52:03.270 --> 00:52:08.210 They're like, you know, yes, they're probably other men, you know, 00:52:08.330 --> 00:52:14.130 and we know like Prince Andrew was explicitly named by the one who had suicide. 00:52:14.130 --> 00:52:19.350 We know there are probably other names, but most of the survivors were like, 00:52:19.650 --> 00:52:26.290 what we really want to get at is all of the people who enabled him. 00:52:26.570 --> 00:52:31.850 You know, there's people who knew about this and who did not report it. 00:52:31.970 --> 00:52:35.990 There were people who knew about this and laughed and facilitated. 00:52:35.990 --> 00:52:40.390 And, you know, there were stories this last week about how various financial 00:52:40.390 --> 00:52:44.470 institutions, he was setting off money laundering flags left and right. 00:52:44.830 --> 00:52:51.310 And executives at those companies signed all the paperwork to exempt him from some of that stuff. 00:52:51.510 --> 00:52:55.610 Well, specifically JPMorgan Chase, apparently one of the one of the key one 00:52:55.610 --> 00:52:59.850 of a high executive at JPMorgan Chase basically kept signing off on everything. 00:52:59.970 --> 00:53:00.690 Now he's buying. He's buying. 00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:04.270 Right. right and you know and and 00:53:04.270 --> 00:53:07.250 so there's a lot of like can we follow the money can 00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.350 we see who he's enabling him what was behind that sweetheart 00:53:10.350 --> 00:53:15.970 deal in florida like 15 years ago or however long it was that basically gave 00:53:15.970 --> 00:53:19.690 him a slap on the wrist and let him go on his way and continue to abuse women 00:53:19.690 --> 00:53:27.970 or girls i should say uh girls not women yeah and you know that that's what they're like Yes, 00:53:28.730 --> 00:53:34.910 again, there may have been other men who also abused women, and we certainly 00:53:34.910 --> 00:53:37.450 want to get them if they're out there and if there's evidence, 00:53:37.630 --> 00:53:40.410 but there was a much larger circle. 00:53:41.410 --> 00:53:46.330 of people who contributed to this happening in one way, shape, 00:53:46.330 --> 00:53:52.990 or another by ignoring it, by enabling it, by facilitating it in one way or another, 00:53:53.350 --> 00:53:58.630 by letting him off the hook instead of prosecuting him down in Florida, all of this stuff. 00:53:59.190 --> 00:54:04.230 And that's sort of part of what, you know, they want to get to the bottom of. 00:54:04.390 --> 00:54:07.050 I mean, some of those survivors last week specifically said, 00:54:07.050 --> 00:54:11.750 We're not even accusing Donald Trump of anything, so we don't understand why he's blocking this. 00:54:11.950 --> 00:54:16.890 And, of course, like, the natural response here is, there's got to be a reason. 00:54:17.210 --> 00:54:18.750 There's got to be a reason. 00:54:19.150 --> 00:54:20.310 You know, it's. 00:54:20.310 --> 00:54:22.190 Got to be a fucking reason. 00:54:22.750 --> 00:54:28.750 There was one of the survivors who was interviewed is like, you know, 00:54:28.830 --> 00:54:30.430 I voted for Donald Trump. 00:54:30.590 --> 00:54:34.670 And part of it was because I believed he would help get to the bottom of all 00:54:34.670 --> 00:54:37.750 of this. So I don't understand what he's doing now. 00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:42.750 Yeah. So it's, it's, it's so fucked up. 00:54:42.830 --> 00:54:47.950 I really, I mean, I shared some of them and I was just, I, I, 00:54:48.070 --> 00:54:52.670 I was, I mean, seriously, I was nauseated. It was revolting. 00:54:52.950 --> 00:54:59.110 And, and, and it was page after page after page from one prominent person or another. 00:54:59.110 --> 00:55:02.910 are like some of the names I recognize some of them I didn't, 00:55:02.970 --> 00:55:08.570 but like they're all sort of wealthy, well-known people within those various circles. 00:55:09.530 --> 00:55:13.490 There was one, I don't think it was part of this book, but also released this 00:55:13.490 --> 00:55:19.710 week, there was a note from Dershowitz, I think, basically saying, 00:55:20.470 --> 00:55:25.010 from him to Epstein, basically saying, I took care of that one story that was 00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:28.670 being published, I talked to them, and I made sure to redirect it, 00:55:28.790 --> 00:55:33.530 so instead of mainly talking about you, it's going to be talking about Bill Clinton. Yeah. 00:55:34.410 --> 00:55:36.950 And he was patting himself on the back about that. 00:55:37.230 --> 00:55:37.490 Yes. 00:55:38.790 --> 00:55:44.710 I'm sure he's not getting a perogy from that guy and he's been arguing with and martha's vineyard. 00:55:44.710 --> 00:55:48.770 Well and it was very interesting by the way how this book came about like that 00:55:48.770 --> 00:55:54.650 it it came out that you know they were busy they're arguing in congress about 00:55:54.650 --> 00:55:58.650 trying to get the doj to hand over the documents they had was apparently someone 00:55:58.650 --> 00:56:02.890 pointed out exactly someone pointed out, 00:56:03.170 --> 00:56:08.130 and apparently this actually happened live on a conversation on an MSNBC show, 00:56:08.330 --> 00:56:14.890 where somebody told the member of Congress who was on the oversight committee, by the way, 00:56:15.490 --> 00:56:17.770 the Epstein estate is going to have this book. 00:56:17.990 --> 00:56:23.110 And DOJ may not want to give it to you, but if you subpoena the Epstein estate, they will. 00:56:23.490 --> 00:56:26.190 And they're like, let's talk right after of the 00:56:26.190 --> 00:56:29.050 show and they got the right and they got the 00:56:29.050 --> 00:56:31.910 the subpoena going like the next day and that's 00:56:31.910 --> 00:56:35.590 where this came from from the epstein estate and they gave a bunch of other 00:56:35.590 --> 00:56:41.870 stuff apparently uh just yesterday i think a trove of emails was also released 00:56:41.870 --> 00:56:48.130 from from between epstein and maxwell you know going back and forth about various 00:56:48.130 --> 00:56:50.550 things so this stuff is still trickling out. 00:56:50.770 --> 00:56:51.030 Trove. 00:56:51.170 --> 00:56:51.490 Yes. 00:56:51.710 --> 00:56:55.050 And let me tell you, that trove was dammit. 00:56:55.210 --> 00:56:57.790 I haven't paid as much attention to it, so tell me a little bit about that. 00:56:58.150 --> 00:57:01.750 Well, listen, when I read, well, I didn't read the details of the emails, 00:57:01.910 --> 00:57:09.270 but the summaries I saw was that the emails showed very clearly that they were 00:57:09.270 --> 00:57:11.530 completely in cahoots in this damn enterprise. 00:57:11.830 --> 00:57:16.070 That this was not, like, Ghislaine was no innocent bison. No. 00:57:16.690 --> 00:57:22.710 It just clearly proved what we know and is the reason why she is in jail. 00:57:24.290 --> 00:57:30.950 So, you know, it's... And, of course, now she's sitting in minimum security. 00:57:31.490 --> 00:57:31.630 Right. 00:57:32.650 --> 00:57:36.970 Which, by the way, let me tell you something. Minimum security, 00:57:38.710 --> 00:57:42.610 Listen, they don't call it Club Fed for nothing, okay? 00:57:43.410 --> 00:57:46.390 It really is very different, okay? 00:57:46.990 --> 00:57:53.050 It's not, I mean, I know that we talk about rehabilitation a lot for criminals. 00:57:53.050 --> 00:57:54.890 We're talking about also punishment. 00:57:56.250 --> 00:58:00.310 You know, that part really lightens up the punishment part quite a lot. 00:58:00.730 --> 00:58:03.670 And for people I know that have been there, okay? 00:58:03.810 --> 00:58:04.030 Yes. 00:58:04.030 --> 00:58:14.030 It's it's it's i mean it it was a huge huge concession to move her to to that 00:58:14.030 --> 00:58:19.490 facility okay it's not no small thing right in exchange for. 00:58:19.490 --> 00:58:23.970 Her saying you know donald trump was always a gentleman he wasn't involved with anything. 00:58:23.970 --> 00:58:25.870 Yeah basically. 00:58:25.870 --> 00:58:29.350 I mean it's it's fairly clear. 00:58:29.350 --> 00:58:36.190 No, no, no, wait. I didn't see anything I thought was inappropriate, which, by the way. 00:58:37.670 --> 00:58:40.410 You know. She doesn't think anything was inappropriate, and she's completely. 00:58:40.410 --> 00:58:43.990 Exactly. Of course. Right. Yeah. 00:58:44.370 --> 00:58:48.710 And she, look, the thing is, this 00:58:48.710 --> 00:58:53.010 is continuing to dribble and dribble and dribble. It's not going away yet. 00:58:53.290 --> 00:58:56.790 The discharge petition in the House 00:58:56.790 --> 00:59:02.730 is one vote away. They need one more Republican to have that go forward. 00:59:03.070 --> 00:59:06.750 Now, even if it goes forward, it doesn't mean that everything's automatically 00:59:06.750 --> 00:59:08.230 released or anything like that. 00:59:08.390 --> 00:59:11.250 There was a vote in the Senate that failed, for instance. 00:59:12.130 --> 00:59:15.150 But one vote away. I don't know if they'll get that vote or not. 00:59:15.410 --> 00:59:20.950 There's been a lot of pressure on congressional Republicans not to sign on to this thing, obviously. 00:59:21.590 --> 00:59:24.190 But they're close, you know? 00:59:24.190 --> 00:59:30.090 You know, asking Ghislaine Maxwell, who is inappropriate, is like if a cop asked 00:59:30.090 --> 00:59:32.770 me, hey, do you think you were going too fast? 00:59:33.910 --> 00:59:36.030 I would say no. 00:59:36.570 --> 00:59:37.350 Not at all. 00:59:37.450 --> 00:59:38.990 I wasn't, sir. Not at all. 00:59:39.090 --> 00:59:43.530 135 was perfectly appropriate for the conditions. For the conditions, yes. 00:59:44.210 --> 00:59:48.130 I don't see what your problem is. I thought it was fine. 00:59:49.170 --> 00:59:54.730 Yes, yes. Okay. I think we have exhausted Epstein. 00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:59.090 Did you want to... I saw you out on another topic. 00:59:59.690 --> 01:00:01.730 Okay, I did add another topic. 01:00:01.890 --> 01:00:04.510 Should I take another break? or should you just want. 01:00:04.510 --> 01:00:08.590 No no no no let's do this no let's do because we took a break you know let's 01:00:08.590 --> 01:00:12.790 let's do two and then we can take another break before that i added this one on, 01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:18.290 the the accusations to get fed governor oh god what's her name i was gonna say 01:00:18.290 --> 01:00:23.730 lisa cook or linda cook oh god it's a lisa it was did i have it right the first 01:00:23.730 --> 01:00:25.350 time okay you should check i. 01:00:25.350 --> 01:00:25.970 Think it's lisa. 01:00:25.970 --> 01:00:30.870 I have double checking yes it was lisa cook i had it right the first time So 01:00:30.870 --> 01:00:36.670 Reuters went and checked and pulled, apparently, 01:00:37.030 --> 01:00:48.130 the loan applications in question, you know, to see if what she was being accused of was, in fact, 01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:54.830 the case, that she had claimed this second home as a primary home. 01:00:54.830 --> 01:01:00.770 Well, apparently Reuters got the documents I'm not sure how exactly It was first 01:01:00.770 --> 01:01:02.250 reported by Reuters Here it is, 01:01:03.550 --> 01:01:11.530 And they pulled the document And it read The loan summary from bank fund staff 01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:14.730 Federal credit union May 21 reads Property use, 01:01:14.870 --> 01:01:22.790 vacation home So it was properly done So this whole thing I think even there 01:01:22.790 --> 01:01:25.570 were lawyers I guess at some point And maybe we were like wondering why didn't 01:01:25.570 --> 01:01:29.190 they go and categorically do it when they didn't have the information man was like, 01:01:29.350 --> 01:01:32.450 Hey, maybe it's a clerical hero, but maybe, you know, 01:01:34.080 --> 01:01:40.320 You know, make sure. But apparently, when Reuters went and got the documents, 01:01:40.860 --> 01:01:45.840 it showed that, no, this accusation by Bill Pulte is false. 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:50.220 Nice. Well, they're still going to investigate, right? And now that there's 01:01:50.220 --> 01:01:52.000 an investigation open, they may find something else. 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.920 Well, they could go and investigate, but, you know, they've got nothing on this. 01:01:57.080 --> 01:02:00.900 Well, look, here's the thing. And, you know, and by the way, 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.260 a court also said that he couldn't fire her yet. 01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:06.680 Like, it's going to be appealed. 01:02:07.100 --> 01:02:09.840 He couldn't fire her. Look, the reason wasn't good enough. 01:02:10.220 --> 01:02:12.540 You know, because you can fire for cause. 01:02:13.180 --> 01:02:19.160 Yeah, but there is, look, cause has certain definitions. Okay, all right? 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:24.940 And that's the thing about it. The word cause isn't used where you can just invent what cause is. 01:02:25.720 --> 01:02:27.980 I mean, that's the main thing. 01:02:28.640 --> 01:02:32.180 Well, we'll see when it gets to SCOTUS. They may redefine it. 01:02:32.900 --> 01:02:37.460 Well, but here's the reality. Well, yes. I mean, who knows what the SCOTUS is. 01:02:37.900 --> 01:02:41.440 They even have a fucking lower courts, like basically right now, 01:02:41.580 --> 01:02:43.900 they're getting into an argument with the fucking lower courts because they're 01:02:43.900 --> 01:02:49.980 telling them that, you know, who the fuck knows what you guys mean anymore? Okay? You know? 01:02:51.120 --> 01:02:55.240 It's real easy. They mean whatever is beneficial to Donald Trump. 01:02:55.240 --> 01:02:57.380 Yeah, to Trump. To Trump at this point, yeah. 01:02:58.780 --> 01:03:03.560 But look, like right now, the main basis of the accusation is pretty much you 01:03:03.560 --> 01:03:05.780 got documents flat out that show that it's not accurate. 01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:10.140 Right. Well, the thing is, and I think we talked. 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:13.100 We've got the prosecution is not going to. By the way, the prosecution is not 01:03:13.100 --> 01:03:15.440 going to go anywhere because nobody's going to build this either. 01:03:15.680 --> 01:03:19.220 Because one of the problems with this is it's how selective it is. 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.460 But you can see that, you know, they can pull errors and they're not. 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.180 They're only prosecuting her. So we're all the other. 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:34.000 But here's the thing. In the end, if your goal is simply to make my life miserable 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.820 for your enemies, none of that matters. 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.480 No, none of that matters. 01:03:38.620 --> 01:03:42.300 I mean, none of that is a big part of it. You start the investigation, 01:03:42.300 --> 01:03:47.540 and they need to hire lawyers, and they need to spend time, and they need to defend themselves. 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:51.480 You fire her, and she has to go to court to try to get it reversed, 01:03:51.500 --> 01:03:55.140 and then that's going to be appealed, and you're going to make it impossible for us. 01:03:55.140 --> 01:03:59.240 No, I know, and that's part of the whole thing. I get it, but... 01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:04.400 But the problem is, but Sam, on the flip side, my whole point about this is 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.300 that on every one of these, you have to fight. 01:04:08.460 --> 01:04:13.640 Because they're trying to do this. Unfortunately, the other flip side is that 01:04:13.640 --> 01:04:16.660 it doesn't matter how big or small, you're basically down to, 01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:19.600 at this point, you have to fight them on every single thing. 01:04:19.820 --> 01:04:27.360 Every comma, every T, every damn thing. There is no thing about working on them on any of these. 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:29.760 You have to fight them at every corner. 01:04:29.980 --> 01:04:34.460 Well, ideally you absolutely would, but the reality is lots of people who get 01:04:34.460 --> 01:04:38.180 attacked this way won't have the ability or resources to do so. 01:04:38.620 --> 01:04:43.140 Listen, most of the big targets that they are going after can't. 01:04:43.140 --> 01:04:47.220 The big targets will get attention, but that's actually part of the problem 01:04:47.220 --> 01:04:49.580 is they're doing this at every level. 01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:56.220 They have decimated DOJ. They have decimated FBI, they have fired, you know, entire, 01:04:57.200 --> 01:05:00.400 agencies are nearly gone. 01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:05.780 And yeah, the people at the top of that chain might be able to afford it or 01:05:05.780 --> 01:05:09.940 have pro bono people come after them. The people at the bottom are just screwed. 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:15.640 Listen, actually, I know that there's a lot of people I understood at the bottom. 01:05:15.860 --> 01:05:18.700 But the thing is that you get more attention to these. 01:05:19.240 --> 01:05:22.920 But it goes back to this whole thing that George Will said about the article 01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:26.480 where he's saying, unfortunately, that the wheels of this kind of stuff slowly, 01:05:26.700 --> 01:05:33.120 especially if you've got a Supreme Court that has enabled them in certain cases. 01:05:33.380 --> 01:05:41.740 But the reality is that, yes, they are getting the advantage on this. But it doesn't matter. 01:05:41.860 --> 01:05:45.420 When you're thinking about the long term, you still have to keep fighting all of these anyway. 01:05:45.700 --> 01:05:46.740 Yeah, I'm not disagreeing. 01:05:46.860 --> 01:05:49.380 It doesn't really matter. You have to fight wherever you can. 01:05:49.680 --> 01:05:51.900 You have to fight every single one of these. 01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:57.060 and it's one of the reasons I'm telling you like why the hell Trump had to finally 01:05:57.060 --> 01:06:02.900 back off on all his bullshit threats to Chicago and now why he's going to fucking Memphis yeah. 01:06:02.900 --> 01:06:03.460 I think it's. 01:06:03.460 --> 01:06:08.040 Memphis right or whatever New Orleans whatever I think it's. 01:06:08.040 --> 01:06:10.220 Memphis I'll check while you talk it. 01:06:10.220 --> 01:06:15.940 May be Memphis but you have to do it that way unfortunately it's exhausting 01:06:15.940 --> 01:06:22.600 but it is what it is I don't see what else we can do at the moment And, 01:06:24.380 --> 01:06:26.800 eventually Donald Trump will have a heart. 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:28.820 Attack it is Memphis I had it right. 01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.540 Eventually Donald Trump will have a heart attack. 01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:38.280 Well yes something will happen there are more rumors about that this week too 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:45.420 did he have a stroke was his something going on with the side of his face something looked. 01:06:45.420 --> 01:06:46.540 Off with his face. 01:06:46.540 --> 01:06:55.340 And did they doctor the video of him talking about Charlie Kirk to like changes face and you know. 01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:02.600 Listen, listen, what I said, I didn't say like I said on the Slack. I did not think it was AI. 01:07:02.860 --> 01:07:03.500 Some people did. 01:07:03.560 --> 01:07:08.240 But it did look like I didn't, I didn't, but I know some people did, 01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:12.500 but I thought that they went in and they touched it up. 01:07:12.620 --> 01:07:19.080 At the very least, what appear there are a few there was at least one of, 01:07:19.560 --> 01:07:22.560 and maybe more of something they call a morph edit, 01:07:22.900 --> 01:07:28.860 which is basically like, you know, if, if you are talking for a while and you 01:07:28.860 --> 01:07:31.400 mess up and then you repeat and, 01:07:31.620 --> 01:07:36.200 you know, when you splice those together, instead of just doing a sharp cut, 01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:39.740 use a morph effect to try to smooth it out. 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:42.840 And that looks weird. Like there was one place where people were pointing out, 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:44.220 it looks like his finger disappeared. 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.480 It was a morph edit, you know, so this 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:51.320 was obviously done in multiple takes and then sliced together and then people 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:55.640 were pointing out just things like more standard video effects like they pumped 01:07:55.640 --> 01:08:01.520 up the the the the color uh right you know they they they might have added some 01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:05.160 smoothing effects you know some stuff like that that's. 01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:08.680 The kind of shit that i'm talking about they they just really like just pumped 01:08:08.680 --> 01:08:12.260 up all that shit they like they pumped it up to the max. 01:08:12.860 --> 01:08:18.480 Well and so yeah like i think and we're having the health conversation again 01:08:18.480 --> 01:08:22.720 apparently Look, it's clear the guy is aging. 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:26.520 It is clear he's got health issues of one sort or another. 01:08:27.220 --> 01:08:31.260 I've said on the Slack a few times, and I said on this show on the time I was 01:08:31.260 --> 01:08:37.160 solo here, like, look, when we get to something really, really acute happening, 01:08:37.940 --> 01:08:40.800 I don't think they'll be able to keep it secret very long. 01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:46.240 Like, you know, people were talking about maybe he died days ago and they're keeping it secret. No. 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.800 If the guy drops dead, we will know about it really fast. 01:08:50.020 --> 01:08:53.620 Listen, we kept how bad Reagan was for a long time. 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:59.140 Yes. And that's the kind of thing, like, it is very easy to imagine that, 01:08:59.360 --> 01:09:03.200 you know, how people were talking about is that what happened with Joe Biden, right? 01:09:03.460 --> 01:09:10.060 Like, were they covering up how bad his true situation is? And I think like disappear. 01:09:10.440 --> 01:09:12.740 Like in any way like like that. 01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:19.360 There was a lot talked about how they were very productive of who got to see 01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:21.860 Joe Biden and for who for how long and stuff like that. 01:09:22.040 --> 01:09:27.160 So, look, this is all very believable. It's happened to presidents before where 01:09:27.160 --> 01:09:32.560 there are health issues of both parties where there are health issues and the 01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.780 people around them try to hide it and make it, you know, 01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:40.580 and protect the president from those things. Look, that's very believable. 01:09:40.780 --> 01:09:48.400 And I could very much see, you know, if he is gradually deteriorating and getting 01:09:48.400 --> 01:09:52.360 worse, they're going to try their best to hide that as long as they possibly can. 01:09:52.360 --> 01:09:57.740 All I'm saying is if something really acute happens, like he has a full-blown 01:09:57.740 --> 01:10:02.060 heart attack, he has a debilitating stroke, 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.320 anything that would actually require, 01:10:05.320 --> 01:10:09.480 oh, we're going to rush him to the hospital, we will know about them. 01:10:09.980 --> 01:10:11.920 They're not going to keep that secret for days. 01:10:12.260 --> 01:10:12.460 Dave! 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:20.500 Yes, I know, Dave. Dave. I'll add it to my list yet again to watch again. But, you know, yeah. 01:10:20.700 --> 01:10:25.500 I mean, we can get Dave. All of a sudden, we get this nice Trump. 01:10:27.260 --> 01:10:30.780 That's what happened in the movie. The original Dave was an asshole. 01:10:31.060 --> 01:10:36.160 And so I went and changed it into Dave, and Dave was like this great president. 01:10:36.540 --> 01:10:37.400 Exactly, yes. 01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:41.760 Well, all of a sudden, we got this guy walking around as Donald Trump, 01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:45.700 and all of a sudden he's saying, I love America, I love immigrants. 01:10:45.700 --> 01:10:47.400 And everybody's going, what happened? 01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:58.880 Yes. Well, since we're drifting into this kind of stuff and sort of not the same as Charlie Kirk, 01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:04.240 but I will mention, like, there was a thing this last week as well, 01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:08.320 where some, first of all, it started with some reporter saying, 01:11:08.460 --> 01:11:09.880 you say Washington, D.C. 01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:13.820 has gotten so much safer because of the National Guard. 01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:15.960 Well, we haven't seen you go to a restaurant. 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.680 And so Donald Trump was like, OK, fine, I'll go to a restaurant. 01:11:20.100 --> 01:11:23.940 And so he went to a restaurant that's just right across the street from the 01:11:23.940 --> 01:11:25.460 White House. So it's not like he went far. 01:11:26.040 --> 01:11:30.000 But then protesters there started immediately yelling. 01:11:30.120 --> 01:11:34.540 As far as I can tell, there were other patrons at the restaurant. 01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:39.340 No, no. Here's an interesting part. Like, I thought so at first, too. 01:11:39.660 --> 01:11:43.080 First of all, he went over the president, the vice president, 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.180 several cabinet members. I think Rubio was there. 01:11:47.400 --> 01:11:49.560 I think several other people pointed out. 01:11:49.780 --> 01:11:53.260 Isn't that like really bad protocol to have all the people together? 01:11:53.260 --> 01:11:57.340 I mean, basically, we're talking a designated survivor situation if somebody 01:11:57.340 --> 01:11:58.760 took out that restaurant, right? 01:11:59.200 --> 01:11:59.540 Right. 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.560 You know, like you're taking out half the line of succession because they're 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.360 all there in one room at some restaurant. 01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:05.600 Right. 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:09.240 And to what you were saying, it was just other patrons there. 01:12:09.240 --> 01:12:15.740 I can't believe it was coincidence because it turns out the protesters, it was Medea Benjamin. 01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:18.200 You remember her? Code pink. 01:12:19.260 --> 01:12:25.440 She is a very prominent career protester in Washington, D.C. 01:12:25.660 --> 01:12:32.660 Now, is it possible she just happened to be at that restaurant when Donald Trump decided to walk over? 01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:36.080 Maybe she spends a lot of time in D.C. 01:12:36.280 --> 01:12:39.980 protesting all kinds of crap. Right. Okay. She protests things at Congress. 01:12:40.160 --> 01:12:43.940 She protests all over the place. She is a professional protester, okay? 01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:46.700 A professional far-left protester. 01:12:47.100 --> 01:12:51.820 But here's the thing, and I saw a few people point it out later. 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:56.300 All of the initial coverage was about, oh, look at Donald Trump. 01:12:56.400 --> 01:13:00.120 Look at how upset he is by the protesters. But then, 01:13:01.090 --> 01:13:07.850 people started pointing out, you have a whole crowd of like six or seven protesters 01:13:07.850 --> 01:13:13.470 here in this restaurant, 10 feet or less away from the president. 01:13:14.290 --> 01:13:19.090 What the fuck is the Secret Service doing? You know, now they have the right 01:13:19.090 --> 01:13:23.550 to protest, but normally the Secret Service would go in there and sweep the place. 01:13:23.850 --> 01:13:27.910 Like I said, this is a well-known leftist agitator. You think they'd let her 01:13:27.910 --> 01:13:31.470 stay or they'd let trump come in. 01:13:31.470 --> 01:13:34.590 Look i mean i i mean i mean 01:13:34.590 --> 01:13:38.910 i mean i mean maybe they have look here okay 01:13:38.910 --> 01:13:45.490 look there was this one time where i bumped into right he was president yes 01:13:45.490 --> 01:13:53.530 into into hw bush okay okay right so i this is a time when i went during this 01:13:53.530 --> 01:13:54.830 presidential classroom, 01:13:55.650 --> 01:13:59.910 and I was roaming the halls of Congress. Okay? 01:14:00.810 --> 01:14:05.810 Literally just going around, checking out what the hell is there. The place is huge. 01:14:05.990 --> 01:14:06.210 Yes. 01:14:06.350 --> 01:14:11.550 Okay? So I'm walking towards the place and I was heading towards the gallery. Okay? 01:14:11.790 --> 01:14:15.570 All right? I was heading towards the Senate gallery, if I remember correctly. 01:14:16.530 --> 01:14:20.610 Yeah, exactly. I was heading towards the Senate gallery. And all of a sudden, 01:14:20.830 --> 01:14:26.870 as I'm walking, Me, this 18-year-old at that time, a Secret Service agent, 01:14:27.030 --> 01:14:31.210 an agent, which I didn't know was a Secret Service agent, tells me to stop. 01:14:31.750 --> 01:14:31.910 Okay. 01:14:32.630 --> 01:14:39.570 Okay, you can't keep going. And I'm like, okay. And lo and behold, it's H.W. 01:14:40.500 --> 01:14:46.660 Now, I'm remembering, no, this wasn't, it was still beat. He wasn't president, okay? 01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:53.060 It was beat because he had to go in to cast a tie-breaking vote. 01:14:53.440 --> 01:14:58.180 And that's what I was, I wanted to, that's what I was going to the gallery to 01:14:58.180 --> 01:15:01.360 watch this. Because there was a tie, okay? 01:15:01.820 --> 01:15:04.400 And there was going to be a tie-breaking vote, okay? 01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:10.240 And so, and that's why he was there. But the reality is they had, I mean, I don't know. 01:15:11.060 --> 01:15:15.240 I was like a few feet from him. I mean, it's not like they searched me or anything. 01:15:15.820 --> 01:15:22.040 Well, even a few years later, when I got to go to the White House with WRCT 01:15:22.040 --> 01:15:25.700 the year after you left, and I know you're still upset you didn't get to go on this. 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:26.960 Yes. 01:15:27.180 --> 01:15:32.300 But, you know, I was sitting 10 feet away from Al Gore, Bill Clinton, 01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.280 Tipper Gore, several cabinet members. 01:15:35.900 --> 01:15:38.080 We didn't guys have to go through security to get there. 01:15:38.080 --> 01:15:45.340 We had to go through security to get there. But I was stunned at how lax that security was. 01:15:45.740 --> 01:15:50.800 And remember, this was before 9-11. Everything's been way tightened up since then. 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:59.220 But I remember back then being surprised at how little security there was. 01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:06.360 I mean, it was like the same kind of security that I got a few weeks back when I went to the fair here. 01:16:06.360 --> 01:16:09.360 some like some guy looked inside my 01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:13.860 bag and was like oh there's nothing there but they didn't even pull the stuff 01:16:13.860 --> 01:16:17.340 out to look at what was underneath right and i'm like there could have been 01:16:17.340 --> 01:16:25.100 something in there what the hell search me better you know but yeah so i but 01:16:25.100 --> 01:16:28.100 you'd think right now i mean, 01:16:29.020 --> 01:16:31.780 People tried to kill him twice already, you know? 01:16:32.300 --> 01:16:33.940 The bill that I saw, okay, by 01:16:33.940 --> 01:16:41.020 the way, the bill that I saw passed was the catastrophic health care bill. 01:16:41.300 --> 01:16:47.400 This was a bill, Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988, 01:16:47.400 --> 01:16:54.240 which for some reason caused a lot of controversy because this is one of those 01:16:54.240 --> 01:16:59.540 things that's a precursor of the kind of stuff we're talking about, 01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:00.680 trying to broaden, like, 01:17:01.340 --> 01:17:03.940 oh my god, health care coverage to everybody. 01:17:06.080 --> 01:17:09.860 And how there was opposition to that for some reason. 01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:18.520 And that bill required a tie-breaking vote by H.W. Bush when it passed in 88. 01:17:19.180 --> 01:17:24.540 So I was right. He was still VP. He was soon president, but it was right before. 01:17:25.300 --> 01:17:30.920 And for some reason, because of a whole bunch of reasons that I don't really 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:35.280 recall, many people were pissed off about it for some reason, 01:17:35.280 --> 01:17:38.900 and it was repealed basically like a year later. 01:17:40.140 --> 01:17:42.060 It didn't even last that long. 01:17:44.060 --> 01:17:48.880 But by the way, the one thing about it is that you think about the changes that 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:52.300 we've had since the now Republican policy, But H.W. 01:17:52.320 --> 01:17:55.100 went to cast a vote in favor of it to pass it. 01:17:55.460 --> 01:17:55.600 Right. 01:17:56.280 --> 01:18:01.560 OK. And then, of course, it didn't happen. And so that's how I wound up seeing. 01:18:02.020 --> 01:18:02.620 There you go. 01:18:03.080 --> 01:18:06.140 And having H.W. Bush say hi to me. 01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:06.740 Excellent. 01:18:06.740 --> 01:18:09.360 Which I was, like, stunned. I'm like, hi. 01:18:10.120 --> 01:18:10.860 Like, hi. 01:18:13.240 --> 01:18:21.040 Very nice. But yeah, no, my point on this was just the fact that so many angry 01:18:21.040 --> 01:18:24.520 people were allowed to get only 10 feet away from the president, 01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:28.260 seems like a security failure. 01:18:28.280 --> 01:18:33.800 Seems like a security situation that could bring some catastrophic consequence at any point in time. 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:37.660 And let's be clear about this. This administration is so incompetent in so many 01:18:37.660 --> 01:18:42.160 levels and so many things with the signal breaches, all this other stuff or whatever. 01:18:42.420 --> 01:18:47.180 And just to be clear, I want to be absolutely clear just like the Charlie Kirk situation. 01:18:47.540 --> 01:18:53.100 If somebody did get Donald Trump that way it would be bad for the country. 01:18:53.100 --> 01:18:56.340 As much as I hate Donald Trump and think he's a horrible president. 01:18:56.400 --> 01:19:00.180 It would be horrible. It would be horrible. All right. 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:04.680 So this is not good. This is what they're doing. This is not good. 01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:09.660 And it's going to lead into something bad happening to one of these guys because 01:19:09.660 --> 01:19:13.100 of how lax they are with everything. I just don't understand. 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:18.480 Given the incitement of violence that they have done across the board and how 01:19:18.480 --> 01:19:22.200 they are also lax on the other end is preposterous. 01:19:23.020 --> 01:19:24.380 Yeah, I mean, look. 01:19:25.250 --> 01:19:29.630 You told me your wife was concerned. They're all actually looking at the other thing. 01:19:29.930 --> 01:19:35.250 Let me tell the—I'm going to say what I feel like I can say. 01:19:35.830 --> 01:19:36.210 Yeah. 01:19:37.330 --> 01:19:45.430 My wife is a state legislator. As I said, she has been on a trip in Europe with 01:19:45.430 --> 01:19:49.110 a whole bunch of other state legislators and some other people who are involved 01:19:49.110 --> 01:19:51.470 in state government in various ways. 01:19:52.730 --> 01:19:55.790 bipartisan group to be clear so she's 01:19:55.790 --> 01:19:59.690 been hanging out with both republicans and democrats and they've 01:19:59.690 --> 01:20:02.630 been you know they're going out and socializing and they're 01:20:02.630 --> 01:20:06.570 going out drinking in the evenings and they're talking about stuff and a 01:20:06.570 --> 01:20:14.030 i want to say that that's actually like a good sign that's good that you know 01:20:14.030 --> 01:20:20.150 at least at the state level in washington state you can have republicans and 01:20:20.150 --> 01:20:25.330 Democrats from across the aisle who go out together socially and have a good time. 01:20:25.350 --> 01:20:27.790 I think that's a good thing. I think that's a great thing. 01:20:27.830 --> 01:20:32.970 And, you know, like my wife has worked with various Republicans on bipartisan 01:20:32.970 --> 01:20:37.610 stuff and gotten things done. And it's good that that kind of thing can still 01:20:37.610 --> 01:20:39.350 happen at certain levels. Okay. 01:20:39.930 --> 01:20:46.630 But as part of their conversations, and I don't think I'm violating a conference 01:20:46.630 --> 01:20:49.330 here. If I am, I apologize to my wife. 01:20:49.510 --> 01:20:56.990 But people on both sides are incredibly nervous about the environment getting more dangerous. 01:20:57.610 --> 01:21:01.630 And this is not the Democrats are afraid or the Republicans are afraid. 01:21:01.770 --> 01:21:07.730 This is everybody is getting really nervous about what's the security situation. 01:21:08.130 --> 01:21:12.970 Do we have to change our habits? Do we have to think, change how we think about 01:21:12.970 --> 01:21:18.530 security? Do we have to like not be doing the things we've been doing? 01:21:18.750 --> 01:21:23.390 And I guess I said changing habits, but like you just just things like, 01:21:23.550 --> 01:21:30.230 you know, where you go, what kind of events you have, what things you participate in, 01:21:30.570 --> 01:21:36.150 you know, if you have a town hall for your district, are you putting your life 01:21:36.150 --> 01:21:41.630 in danger because you never know what kind of Yahoo is going to show up from the opposing side? 01:21:41.630 --> 01:21:44.630 You know, in both directions, right? 01:21:44.810 --> 01:21:50.070 And because the environment all across the board is just getting more tense 01:21:50.070 --> 01:21:54.750 and people are more angry and there are a lot of crazy people out there. 01:21:54.930 --> 01:22:00.970 And yes, there is easy access to guns and, and, you know, and to some degree, I'm like. 01:22:01.630 --> 01:22:07.090 I want to be able to say, don't worry about it. You're exaggerating. 01:22:07.310 --> 01:22:10.550 It's not a big deal. But, you know, state legislators were killed, 01:22:10.790 --> 01:22:17.690 you know, just a couple months ago in Minnesota by some nut job who had a list 01:22:17.690 --> 01:22:21.070 of Democrats in the state legislature to go after, you know? 01:22:21.410 --> 01:22:24.990 And by the way, that's another contrast I meant to bring up earlier. 01:22:25.370 --> 01:22:30.750 Like with Charlie Kirk, everybody's talking about, is this a big changing point? 01:22:30.750 --> 01:22:32.450 like before they found out he was a white guy. 01:22:32.950 --> 01:22:37.130 You know, is this a changing point? Is this a part of a civil war? Blah, blah, blah. 01:22:37.530 --> 01:22:44.310 This guy blew away the former Speaker of the House in Minnesota, 01:22:44.610 --> 01:22:49.810 her husband, her dog, and they shot another legislator and his wife. 01:22:50.590 --> 01:22:54.110 And it disappeared out of the headlines in a few days. 01:22:54.550 --> 01:22:57.590 You know, and nobody was talking about, is this going to change everything? 01:22:57.590 --> 01:23:00.730 you know um you know 01:23:00.730 --> 01:23:03.790 and you know no one was you know 01:23:03.790 --> 01:23:06.470 donald trump's made all the made all 01:23:06.470 --> 01:23:09.650 these comments about how wonderful charlie kirk was and how 01:23:09.650 --> 01:23:13.330 much of a serious situation i don't think he ever said a damn thing about the 01:23:13.330 --> 01:23:19.290 situation in in minnesota even though it was it turned out that one was a conservative 01:23:19.290 --> 01:23:27.150 guy with a hit list of liberals yep you know and yeah so anyway yes The environment 01:23:27.150 --> 01:23:28.710 is tense and getting tenser, 01:23:28.910 --> 01:23:32.510 and I feel like it's going to get worse before it gets better. 01:23:32.790 --> 01:23:41.130 I actually think, you know, it's a good thing this wasn't some far-left, 01:23:41.190 --> 01:23:43.030 you know, Bernie Sanders, 01:23:43.270 --> 01:23:50.190 AOC nutjob who killed Kirk, because I think that's the path that would be more 01:23:50.190 --> 01:23:52.470 likely to lead to an immediate escalation. 01:23:52.470 --> 01:23:58.550 this path I feel like the a lot of the conservatives who are getting riled up 01:23:58.550 --> 01:24:06.310 for civil war have sort of been like oh never mind then yeah basically but at the same time it's. 01:24:07.020 --> 01:24:12.820 This is, there has been a slow, gradual increase of this kind of stuff. 01:24:13.060 --> 01:24:18.860 A few people have rattled off like the list of political violence in the last decade. 01:24:19.480 --> 01:24:24.560 And there's been a lot of it, but well, quote unquote, a lot. 01:24:24.820 --> 01:24:28.460 Relatively speaking, the United States has less of this than most places, 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.440 but it's been increasing. 01:24:31.740 --> 01:24:34.640 You know, we had, how we had January 6th was 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.560 100% political violence the state legislatures i mentioned nancy pelosi's husband 01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:47.060 someone mentioned yeah someone tried to set fire to the governor the governor's 01:24:47.060 --> 01:24:52.440 mansion in pennsylvania right well i tried to they did they did they did they tried to. 01:24:52.440 --> 01:24:53.880 Kill they tried to kill the governor. 01:24:53.880 --> 01:25:00.640 And they escaped uh there was that plot to to kidnap gretchen whitmer whitmer 01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:04.160 it also failed but a bunch of people were caught for that. 01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:09.560 And yeah, there's a lot of this, there's a lot of this and it seems to be accelerating. 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:14.820 Yeah. I remember a couple of years ago, we had this conversation on here and 01:25:14.820 --> 01:25:19.300 we listed a whole bunch, but we're like, well, luckily most of them have failed. 01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:22.540 You know, there are a bunch of failed attempts. There are some people who got 01:25:22.540 --> 01:25:23.880 hurt, but nobody's been killed. 01:25:25.040 --> 01:25:27.700 And well, we've had a bunch of people killed now. 01:25:28.540 --> 01:25:37.280 Yeah. So well, and unfortunately I listen, Even though we Close this subject out Sorry, 01:25:39.220 --> 01:25:47.840 But even though This is going to get worse I don't I don't see how This is not going to get worse. 01:25:49.550 --> 01:25:54.390 So i i can't disagree with you i want to disagree with you like i said i wanted 01:25:54.390 --> 01:25:59.830 i wanted to tell my wife you're overreacting blah blah but i can't i can't i can't say that. 01:25:59.830 --> 01:26:01.630 Oh she's not overreacting. 01:26:01.630 --> 01:26:08.270 You know she's like should i should i buy body armor like i'm like maybe you 01:26:08.270 --> 01:26:14.310 know if you're out doing public events and stuff i mean didn't help kirk you 01:26:14.310 --> 01:26:19.990 know but yeah but yeah I don't know. 01:26:20.210 --> 01:26:24.110 It's just like the situation is tense and getting tenser. 01:26:24.690 --> 01:26:27.750 And is that the right way of saying that? 01:26:27.750 --> 01:26:28.490 I don't think so. 01:26:28.490 --> 01:26:28.930 It's getting tenser. 01:26:29.050 --> 01:26:32.650 It sounds weird. I keep thinking of the mathematical tensor every time I say 01:26:32.650 --> 01:26:35.690 that. I've been watching too many general relativity things lately. 01:26:36.490 --> 01:26:39.050 I'm reading a physics book with my son right now. 01:26:39.050 --> 01:26:41.650 I heard you say it earlier, and I didn't say anything. 01:26:42.030 --> 01:26:47.170 More tense. Tenser. Well, again, I keep thinking the mathematical version. 01:26:47.170 --> 01:26:52.210 because I am currently with Alex reading a book that includes some, 01:26:52.330 --> 01:26:54.970 we're in a general relativity chapter right now. 01:26:55.110 --> 01:26:57.670 We're talking about tensors and metrics and all that kind of stuff. 01:26:57.810 --> 01:27:00.370 That's spelled differently, of course, T-E-N-S-O-R. 01:27:01.110 --> 01:27:06.110 But it's basically a certain matrix type of thing, you know, whatever. 01:27:06.370 --> 01:27:10.450 But I'm trying to see, wait, hold on. 01:27:14.530 --> 01:27:18.890 All right, hold on more. More 10s? 01:27:19.650 --> 01:27:23.170 Wait. Okay, more tense or tensor. 01:27:23.650 --> 01:27:24.010 Okay. 01:27:24.470 --> 01:27:31.430 Both more tense or and tensor are grammatically correct comparative forms of the adjective tense. 01:27:31.990 --> 01:27:37.090 It did sound weird, though. I admit. I was thinking it sounded weird while I was saying it. 01:27:37.130 --> 01:27:43.330 Well, tensor is a valid comparative form, often following the rule of adding er, more tense. 01:27:43.830 --> 01:27:50.310 More tense is used for multi-syllable adjectives. has become the more natural and preferred choice. 01:27:50.710 --> 01:27:58.750 Okay, well, as I said, I much prefer, in mathematics, a tensor is an algebraic 01:27:58.750 --> 01:28:02.910 object that describes a multilinear relationship between sets of algebraic objects 01:28:02.910 --> 01:28:04.950 associated with a vector space. 01:28:05.910 --> 01:28:10.750 Well, that's the tensor I'm thinking about. Try to say that without reading it. 01:28:15.110 --> 01:28:20.430 Anyway on the lovely note of you know political violence probably getting worse before it's better. 01:28:20.430 --> 01:28:25.390 Let me say that you know aside from poland firing uh drones that you know getting 01:28:25.390 --> 01:28:30.030 drones fired at it that the one good news in the world is how the hell does 01:28:30.030 --> 01:28:33.210 brazil have a better democracy than ours yes. 01:28:33.210 --> 01:28:36.850 Okay let's take a break and then we'll hit those things one two three. 01:28:36.850 --> 01:28:41.510 Well, there's no hitting. No, we're going to end the show after this. 01:28:42.290 --> 01:28:42.990 No break. 01:28:43.150 --> 01:28:48.450 I think we're good. I think we're good. It's just, all I'm saying is... 01:28:48.450 --> 01:28:50.410 It was not a really short break. I was excited. 01:28:51.450 --> 01:28:54.610 Okay, all right. We'll take the break. We'll go and wrap up after that. 01:28:54.650 --> 01:28:56.250 Okay, here we go. All right, come on. All right. 01:28:56.890 --> 01:29:00.870 I want to be on top of the tree. 01:29:01.610 --> 01:29:08.830 I want to be on the floor when I fall off the tree. 01:29:13.830 --> 01:29:16.130 There you go. See, that was worth it. 01:29:16.210 --> 01:29:19.330 Wasn't it? Okay, that was worth it. Okay, all right. 01:29:20.630 --> 01:29:24.870 Oh, yeah, now I'm wondering why we don't get more listeners. Anyway. 01:29:27.450 --> 01:29:30.090 God sakes. After me singing last week. 01:29:30.330 --> 01:29:33.610 Yes. I put that right at the beginning so no one could miss it. 01:29:33.610 --> 01:29:37.150 Yes. Oh, God. Okay. Yeah. Anyway. 01:29:37.550 --> 01:29:41.310 That actually, the song from last week, it happened in the middle during one 01:29:41.310 --> 01:29:44.770 of the times my computer crashed and Yvonne was vamping while I was rebooting 01:29:44.770 --> 01:29:47.090 my computer. And I pulled it out from there. 01:29:47.150 --> 01:29:49.070 He said for me to do something to kill time. 01:29:49.250 --> 01:29:51.830 Yes, I did. And Ivan did. 01:29:51.850 --> 01:29:54.930 I just started singing. Anyway. 01:29:55.170 --> 01:30:00.950 Anyway, Poland and Brazil. And we had the coup in Nepal, too. Or not coup. 01:30:01.810 --> 01:30:04.610 The revolution, whatever happened in Nepal. 01:30:05.070 --> 01:30:09.730 Well, listen, we had the mass protest that led to the resignation of the prime 01:30:09.730 --> 01:30:12.550 minister and an undecided political situation. 01:30:12.550 --> 01:30:12.770 Yes. 01:30:13.170 --> 01:30:18.570 And the mass protests were very violent. I don't know violent in terms of how 01:30:18.570 --> 01:30:22.890 many people they killed, because aside from the military that killed some of the protesters, 01:30:23.390 --> 01:30:26.630 I know they set a lot of buildings on fire and things on fire, 01:30:26.690 --> 01:30:28.970 but I don't know if they actually killed a lot of people. 01:30:28.990 --> 01:30:31.910 I don't think there was a lot, but I honestly am not sure. 01:30:31.930 --> 01:30:37.410 I did see one clip going around on the situation in Nepal where there was a 01:30:37.410 --> 01:30:43.870 tourist bus that was trying to get through the protesters in front of the parliament 01:30:43.870 --> 01:30:45.210 building that was on fire. 01:30:46.370 --> 01:30:49.930 And the protesters, just made 01:30:49.930 --> 01:30:53.310 way for the bus. They were waving at the bus saying, welcome to Nepal. 01:30:53.530 --> 01:30:55.790 Thanks for coming and waving at them. 01:30:55.890 --> 01:30:57.310 Well, that's nice of them. 01:30:57.510 --> 01:31:01.230 And meanwhile, you know, the parliament building or whatever it is burning right 01:31:01.230 --> 01:31:03.570 behind them, you know, as they're going through. 01:31:03.570 --> 01:31:06.350 Well, that's nice of them, at least, you know. They're like, 01:31:06.510 --> 01:31:08.710 you know, okay, that's cool. 01:31:10.370 --> 01:31:14.390 Anyway, yes. And just to finish up on Nepal, 01:31:14.510 --> 01:31:17.950 I have not followed it closely, but the bottom line is apparently the 01:31:17.950 --> 01:31:21.530 government there has had corruption issues for generations and 01:31:21.530 --> 01:31:25.850 the younger generation had just had enough of it but they it was triggered by 01:31:25.850 --> 01:31:29.630 them trying to shut off access to all kinds of social media and they were like 01:31:29.630 --> 01:31:35.170 no and they protested enough like you said the the the prime minister resigned 01:31:35.170 --> 01:31:41.190 and now there's an uncertain situation going on that will resolve itself one way or another. 01:31:42.270 --> 01:31:47.330 So, I mean, the other two things, look, we have those drones that that that 01:31:47.330 --> 01:31:53.110 Poland shot down that Russian drones, which, you know, it's like it's always 01:31:53.110 --> 01:31:54.430 when it's a friend of Trump. 01:31:55.210 --> 01:31:58.890 If it's a friend, if it's a friend of Trump, then it's like, 01:31:59.010 --> 01:32:01.390 oh, well, maybe an accident. 01:32:01.870 --> 01:32:04.790 Yeah, I didn't mean to, you know, shoot. 01:32:05.150 --> 01:32:10.510 I mean, I'm just anyway, always. But, of course, he wants, for some reason, 01:32:11.030 --> 01:32:14.250 he wants, for some reason, the EU... 01:32:14.250 --> 01:32:15.990 I was just going to say on Brazil. 01:32:15.990 --> 01:32:17.170 Oh, well, we've got the Venezuela thing. 01:32:17.310 --> 01:32:20.090 Well, no, I was just going to complete on Brazil. Like, yes, 01:32:20.210 --> 01:32:25.190 Brazil took action against Bolsonaro, who had basically... 01:32:25.890 --> 01:32:27.010 Who tried! They tried to do the same... 01:32:27.010 --> 01:32:29.970 They tried to do January 6th, and they also failed. 01:32:30.110 --> 01:32:35.930 And the solution was that they're throwing the bastard into jail for 25 fucking years. 01:32:35.930 --> 01:32:38.790 Yeah, they arrested him. They went to trial. They're throwing him in jail. 01:32:39.370 --> 01:32:43.570 But, you know, Trump is mad about it. Rubio is threatening things. 01:32:43.710 --> 01:32:44.930 They're threatening more tariffs. 01:32:45.130 --> 01:32:47.810 They already added some tariffs because of this. They're threatening more. 01:32:47.810 --> 01:32:49.290 And they have said, go fuck yourselves. 01:32:49.570 --> 01:32:50.910 Yeah. And. 01:32:52.150 --> 01:32:55.670 He's not getting out of jail. He's going to jail for 25 years. Good luck. 01:32:55.810 --> 01:32:57.830 And this is the right answer, you know. 01:32:58.030 --> 01:32:59.190 And that's the right answer. 01:32:59.470 --> 01:33:06.010 You know, and if the U.S. wants to make fools of ourselves by throwing on tariffs. 01:33:06.010 --> 01:33:09.250 And tripling coffee prices or whatever president 01:33:09.250 --> 01:33:12.890 of brazil was not that popular okay all 01:33:12.890 --> 01:33:16.830 right because he's also one that's been involved in some corruption scandals 01:33:16.830 --> 01:33:20.430 and got brought back you do realize that the thing that they have done with 01:33:20.430 --> 01:33:24.210 attacking him once again as he has done with other foreign leaders is that his 01:33:24.210 --> 01:33:31.230 popularity has soared right and by the way the other thing is that on the tariffs on the terror front, 01:33:31.820 --> 01:33:35.040 Because our president is an idiot, okay? 01:33:35.320 --> 01:33:39.760 One of the things is that he's also handed a whole bunch of trade victories 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:46.680 to Brazil by selling soybeans and other products to China at the expense of 01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:50.080 American exports, which now are super expensive and collapsed. 01:33:50.780 --> 01:33:55.460 Yes, and someone pointed out, by the way, the tariffs that are being proposed 01:33:55.460 --> 01:33:59.980 right now, two things, of course. One is what I mentioned before. 01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:02.400 As with all the tariffs— We actually have. 01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:03.360 A trade surplus. 01:34:03.360 --> 01:34:07.460 With Brazil already. Right, right. But as with all tariffs, the people who pay 01:34:07.460 --> 01:34:09.300 the price are the Americans buying the product. 01:34:09.500 --> 01:34:12.780 So in the case of Brazil, that's like coffee and beef, okay? 01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:15.900 Coffee is soaring. And beef is soaring. 01:34:15.940 --> 01:34:24.120 But also, somebody did the analysis of what parts of Brazil would get hurt the most by the tariffs. 01:34:24.360 --> 01:34:27.160 And they're the parts of the country that support Bolsonaro anyway. 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:29.220 Yeah, so fuck them. 01:34:29.540 --> 01:34:34.660 Yeah, so it's just all ill-conceived. Okay, moving on from Brazil. 01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:36.720 Did we talk about Baltimore? 01:34:37.120 --> 01:34:39.820 We talked about Baltimore. Yeah, it sounds like it. 01:34:39.940 --> 01:34:45.320 But the one final one that I wanted to say that I didn't put on the topics is 01:34:45.320 --> 01:34:47.560 apparently we're a threatened war on Venezuela. 01:34:48.460 --> 01:34:49.260 Yes, yes. 01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.900 They're actually, look, in Puerto Rico, a whole bunch of troops have arrived 01:34:53.900 --> 01:34:58.780 to Puerto Rico, which would be pretty much an ideal springboard to be launching 01:34:58.780 --> 01:35:02.660 shit to Venezuela from. In case of an attack. 01:35:03.980 --> 01:35:10.800 I am pretty sure that most of the Venezuelan diaspora is in favor of the United 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:13.980 States attacking Venezuela and knocking down Maduro. 01:35:14.300 --> 01:35:16.340 I don't have a doubt about that. 01:35:17.220 --> 01:35:21.700 The whole problem with this whole thing and adventure is that most of the time 01:35:21.700 --> 01:35:24.340 that we do this shit, it never works out well. 01:35:25.580 --> 01:35:27.400 That's an understatement, I think. 01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:31.640 But there are cases it does. Listen, if you ask the Panamanians, 01:35:31.820 --> 01:35:34.520 if they are happy that the U.S. 01:35:35.100 --> 01:35:40.320 took out Noriega, they pretty much unanimously are, thank God. 01:35:40.820 --> 01:35:41.020 Okay. 01:35:41.340 --> 01:35:46.440 Okay. So, I mean, look, if you ask the Europeans whether it was good that we 01:35:46.440 --> 01:35:53.200 went to the Japanese, if we went and we invaded them, they also are probably on the side of, yes. 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:57.700 Right. There's the last surveys I saw. So therefore, you know, there are cases. 01:35:57.900 --> 01:36:00.740 But the reality is that most of the other ones, we fucked this up. 01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:05.360 But the other thing is, my biggest problem with this is that the only reason 01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:10.440 that Trump wants to do this is to curry political favors with the Venezuelans, 01:36:10.520 --> 01:36:16.040 which right now are super pissed at him because he ended TPS for the Venezuelans that had left. 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:21.320 That's the only fucking reason that I see that this is happening. 01:36:21.320 --> 01:36:23.680 And it's simply a political move. 01:36:23.820 --> 01:36:31.020 And it's also, well, it's also for immigration reasons, because reality is that 01:36:31.020 --> 01:36:35.540 Venezuelans have been leaving Venezuela in droves because of what's happening 01:36:35.540 --> 01:36:37.900 with the dictatorship that is in place right now. 01:36:37.900 --> 01:36:46.600 and I know that there's a lot of Venezuelans that will return for sure if, 01:36:47.620 --> 01:36:53.020 this regime falls there's a lot of them that will so, 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:59.800 Again, the reason is you think he's he's not doing it for altruistic reasons. 01:37:00.020 --> 01:37:02.900 The only fucking reason he's doing it is because he thinks there is political 01:37:02.900 --> 01:37:05.640 gain and money to be had by doing this. 01:37:06.260 --> 01:37:12.660 Of course, it's it's always self-serving. I mean, I'm sure like if like what 01:37:12.660 --> 01:37:16.560 you said, if a whole bunch of Venezuelans decide to self-deport and leave and 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.500 go back to Venezuela as a result, all these folks would be thrilled. 01:37:21.020 --> 01:37:27.040 You know, the Trumpists don't want him here anyway. you know so they'd be happy 01:37:27.040 --> 01:37:33.300 about that now the question is as with all of these things, 01:37:34.060 --> 01:37:41.380 there's the one scenario where they go in they depose the guy instantly we set 01:37:41.380 --> 01:37:47.220 up our puppet there really quickly and things go relatively smoothly well there is actually. 01:37:47.220 --> 01:37:48.020 A guy that was. 01:37:48.020 --> 01:37:49.080 I know, I know, I know. 01:37:49.260 --> 01:37:51.960 That was elected. Yes. 01:37:52.280 --> 01:37:52.660 No, I know. 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:53.820 But that, yeah. 01:37:54.020 --> 01:38:00.900 That's the one scenario. The other scenario is it becomes an ongoing military 01:38:00.900 --> 01:38:04.040 morass lasting years, you know? 01:38:04.280 --> 01:38:11.740 Or even if we go in quickly, if the scenario becomes messy, like Iraq became messy, for instance. 01:38:11.980 --> 01:38:16.000 I will tell you this, that in the Venezuela case, I'm pretty confident that 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.700 if they knock them off and they take out the military leaders, 01:38:18.860 --> 01:38:20.940 there's nothing, that ends quickly. 01:38:21.240 --> 01:38:26.720 This is all being held by force at the top because they have the money and they 01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:31.420 have the control of the military at the top and they are paying these people. 01:38:31.540 --> 01:38:34.900 This is one of those where that's the only thing that's holding this together. 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:41.220 It's kind of like, if you think about with Assad in Syria, how he held the country 01:38:41.220 --> 01:38:43.260 together. That was not by popularity. 01:38:43.500 --> 01:38:46.580 I mean, he basically like bombed them to submission, okay? 01:38:47.220 --> 01:38:51.080 for years and years until all of a sudden he just couldn't hold it together 01:38:51.080 --> 01:38:52.720 anymore for whatever reason. 01:38:53.480 --> 01:38:59.760 So I don't think that's the case, but my whole point is that I think that probably, 01:38:59.960 --> 01:39:05.100 this is one of the few times that this may be productive, but my whole thing 01:39:05.100 --> 01:39:09.740 is that the only reason Trump wouldn't be doing it is for all the wrong fucking reasons. 01:39:09.900 --> 01:39:14.160 Well, but if he were to have a military. 01:39:14.740 --> 01:39:16.020 Who is a fucking like. 01:39:16.020 --> 01:39:19.560 Incompetent. No, no. But let me just put this out there. 01:39:19.700 --> 01:39:20.100 Secretary of Defense. 01:39:20.300 --> 01:39:25.580 If Trump had a military adventure, despite all the people who are like, 01:39:26.440 --> 01:39:30.640 hoping that trump would be anti-war and stuff if he has a military adventure 01:39:30.640 --> 01:39:35.840 but it actually goes well it's successful it gets good results he'll. 01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:36.960 Want to do another one. 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:41.260 Well no he'll want it but also his popularity is going to go right back up people 01:39:41.260 --> 01:39:47.200 will get excited and rally behind the flag and all this kind of stuff and you know no no listen. 01:39:47.200 --> 01:39:50.380 When by the way and when we go to what you know you go to one of these places 01:39:50.380 --> 01:39:53.360 it's like we went to hate and nobody gives a shit about that, 01:39:54.200 --> 01:39:58.460 this isn't like, you know, this isn't like, I mean, it's going to be like Grenada. 01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:05.240 Literally. Okay? This will be over almost before it started. Seriously. 01:40:05.480 --> 01:40:10.760 You really think a big country like Venezuela would fall as quickly as something like Grenada? 01:40:11.420 --> 01:40:16.080 Listen, I'm telling you that this is only, listen, Maduro falls, 01:40:16.260 --> 01:40:18.700 that place falls apart in two seconds. 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:23.260 This is one of those where it's just this 01:40:23.260 --> 01:40:26.340 is being held together just by 01:40:26.340 --> 01:40:30.660 the control that he has of the money the control that he has at the top of the 01:40:30.660 --> 01:40:37.460 military if he didn't have that this thing listen you this thing topples in 01:40:37.460 --> 01:40:40.300 two seconds okay and i guarantee you that a whole bunch of even the generals 01:40:40.300 --> 01:40:45.500 and everybody which is like oh yeah we're so glad he's gone i i don't know as you. 01:40:45.500 --> 01:40:51.620 Say that i just keep having flashbacks to we will be greeted as liberators in Iraq. 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:55.580 No, no, no. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but this is, Venezuela is not Iraq. 01:40:56.260 --> 01:41:01.600 And listen, Venezuela is not Iraq. And listen, Venezuela is in such dire straits right now. 01:41:01.740 --> 01:41:04.720 They're dying to get rid of this guy. They can't get rid of this fucking guy. 01:41:05.240 --> 01:41:11.380 Right. Okay, one more thing. I actually, like, zoned, I guess. 01:41:11.660 --> 01:41:15.760 Like, we went past Poland so quickly. I had a couple more thoughts on Poland. 01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:19.740 One is just to put this straight out there. 01:41:20.700 --> 01:41:26.780 This is, despite any protestations, this might have been an accident. 01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:28.860 This was clearly not an accident. 01:41:29.160 --> 01:41:32.300 This was Russia. This was Russia testing. 01:41:33.180 --> 01:41:40.900 And with Donald Trump, Poland called an Article 4 conference. 01:41:41.500 --> 01:41:46.340 So it's not Article 5, which says we've been attacked and therefore we've all 01:41:46.340 --> 01:41:48.160 been attacked and NATO has to defend it. 01:41:48.620 --> 01:41:51.600 Article 4 was an emergency meeting to discuss the situation. 01:41:53.120 --> 01:41:57.380 The U.S. did not even send their high-level representatives. 01:41:57.800 --> 01:42:00.340 They sent some low-level guy to that meeting. 01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:09.380 So basically, if this was a test by Putin, we have failed that test already. 01:42:09.540 --> 01:42:13.600 Because the response from the U.S. 01:42:13.700 --> 01:42:19.640 specifically has been tepid. Now, NATO planes, Polish planes, 01:42:19.820 --> 01:42:23.280 and several other countries got up. They intercepted these things. 01:42:23.420 --> 01:42:26.760 They shot a bunch of them down. There was no damage done in Poland. 01:42:27.080 --> 01:42:33.460 So it was successfully defended. Now, nobody wants to immediately make this an escalation, right? 01:42:33.460 --> 01:42:39.100 Like, Poland's not going to go and counterattack Russia or decide that we have 01:42:39.100 --> 01:42:44.780 to, like, you know, we're now going to be on the ground or in the air in Ukraine. 01:42:45.160 --> 01:42:47.980 That's not happening. No one wants to escalate it right now. 01:42:48.220 --> 01:42:53.720 But it's basically what Putin has seen is, 01:42:53.960 --> 01:43:01.720 yeah, he can throw some drones into NATO territory and have no significant consequences come out of it. 01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:09.560 so this will only get tested further as we move on and you know i. 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:12.640 I think you know my problem with this 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.460 stupidity is the whole thing about poking the 01:43:15.460 --> 01:43:18.380 bear you want to 01:43:18.380 --> 01:43:21.320 really listen even though trump keeps saying this 01:43:21.320 --> 01:43:28.320 other thing he's going and like asking the eu and and and like to To tariff 01:43:28.320 --> 01:43:34.580 China and India To punish them for purchasing Shit from Russia To 100% tariffs 01:43:34.580 --> 01:43:37.560 Which I'm still a little bit like Are you shitting me? Really? 01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:39.140 This is what you want to do? 01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:46.060 Which is This whole thing is a little bit nuts But look. 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:57.540 I've said this before, Russia's military might is not really as mighty as it's purported. 01:43:57.540 --> 01:44:07.920 And the reality is That even just German French Fucking forces Doing a fucking, 01:44:09.400 --> 01:44:16.300 Counterattack To neutralize shit In that area Would be devastating To whatever 01:44:16.300 --> 01:44:20.820 the fuck they're gonna hit in Russia So if he wants to really start Poking the bear, 01:44:21.660 --> 01:44:24.700 And try to see how hard he gets To get back, 01:44:25.660 --> 01:44:30.940 He's gonna, you know Putin's been exposed more than once as a paper tiger. 01:44:31.220 --> 01:44:36.580 The only reason right now why Ukraine, he is even like gaining inches, 01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:48.400 is it is it is an immense expense of human capital and resources, you know, 01:44:48.940 --> 01:44:52.640 with minimal gains that he is able to do. 01:44:52.940 --> 01:44:57.080 And that and literally they're throwing everything they've got at them. 01:44:57.080 --> 01:44:57.580 Right. 01:44:57.820 --> 01:45:01.680 Think about this. And they're going just against Ukraine. Okay? 01:45:02.300 --> 01:45:04.320 Honestly, I don't really know what the... 01:45:04.930 --> 01:45:09.450 you know, he really wants to do with this? Is it just to test the unity? 01:45:09.930 --> 01:45:14.730 Is it, like, whatever? Because, obviously, I know that one of his key focus, 01:45:14.950 --> 01:45:17.250 more being a KGV guy, has been at that. 01:45:17.470 --> 01:45:21.870 At the head games, which, by the way, he's done quite well seeing where the 01:45:21.870 --> 01:45:25.270 fuck we are like right now with this fucking situation. 01:45:25.830 --> 01:45:32.410 But in terms of military, actual strength, he has continuously overestimated 01:45:32.410 --> 01:45:36.810 what his actual troop strength is versus the reality of what they can do. 01:45:37.070 --> 01:45:41.490 Right. And of course, the reason everybody is hesitant is, of course, nukes. 01:45:42.330 --> 01:45:48.070 That's it. You know, like, if Russia did not have nukes, 01:45:48.210 --> 01:45:56.510 I can almost assure you that we would have had a Gulf War I type response to 01:45:56.510 --> 01:46:02.830 the very first invasions of Ukraine when they took over Crimea and, you know, 01:46:02.930 --> 01:46:05.610 way back then you know it it would have 01:46:05.610 --> 01:46:08.390 been the same kind of thing as we had in kuwait where we 01:46:08.390 --> 01:46:11.150 said no no you can't iraq you can't have 01:46:11.150 --> 01:46:14.170 kuwait we're taking it back you know right that's it 01:46:14.170 --> 01:46:20.590 basically that would have happened a long time ago if it was simply conventional 01:46:20.590 --> 01:46:24.950 and no one was worried about nukes exactly i mean not the fucking nukes yeah 01:46:24.950 --> 01:46:29.070 you have to worry about the nukes you have to worry about the fucking nukes 01:46:29.070 --> 01:46:33.190 you know one more foreign policy thing and then let's close it up. 01:46:34.070 --> 01:46:39.750 Donald Trump is also mad at Israel right now because they bombed Qatar. 01:46:39.990 --> 01:46:45.230 Oh, fuck, because they bombed Qatar. What the fuck? Oh, my God. 01:46:45.250 --> 01:46:49.490 In order to get some Hamas leaders. And apparently they didn't get all the people 01:46:49.490 --> 01:46:50.890 they were trying to get either. 01:46:51.630 --> 01:46:53.170 But holy shit, man. 01:46:53.330 --> 01:47:00.750 Specifically, the intention was to kill the people who were actively negotiating. 01:47:01.270 --> 01:47:04.810 Negotiating to end this, right? Let me tell you something right now. 01:47:05.460 --> 01:47:11.100 If Bibi doesn't go to jail for war crimes at this point, I don't understand 01:47:11.100 --> 01:47:14.560 what kind of fucking justice we have in this world. 01:47:15.220 --> 01:47:15.700 Yeah. 01:47:16.540 --> 01:47:18.280 That guy is just a war criminal. 01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:24.480 I'll tell you, and I think the same thing. I mean, I know he's got his own trials 01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:27.440 going on for corruption-related stuff. Corruption. 01:47:28.080 --> 01:47:33.480 But I will predict, I mean, obviously Donald Trump got out of all his legal 01:47:33.480 --> 01:47:34.960 cases already and he's president. 01:47:35.460 --> 01:47:40.500 I feel like for both Netanyahu and Donald Trump, they'll die of old age, 01:47:40.940 --> 01:47:44.600 you know, and not in jail, you know. 01:47:45.100 --> 01:47:47.960 Well, of course, Netanyahu has not been able to stop the cases against him. 01:47:48.180 --> 01:47:51.080 No, he has not at this point. Yes, he has not. 01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:52.040 So that's the one thing. 01:47:52.060 --> 01:47:55.580 He's been able to slow them down, but he has not been able to stop them. 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:58.680 Yeah. Okay. Shall we wrap things up? 01:47:58.860 --> 01:47:59.340 On that happy note. 01:47:59.340 --> 01:48:07.300 Yes. And I will, just 10 minutes ago, I received feedback on last week's show. 01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:12.200 So before we, before we give like the website and everything like that, 01:48:12.360 --> 01:48:13.920 I am going to relate the feedback. 01:48:14.400 --> 01:48:17.160 What's the feedback? 01:48:17.980 --> 01:48:24.620 This is from my mother. And it's specifically about you, Yvonne, and things you said. 01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:27.320 Oh, shit. Oh, God. Okay. 01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:27.960 Okay. 01:48:28.260 --> 01:48:29.020 Sorry, Bob. 01:48:31.180 --> 01:48:32.780 Been listening I'm. 01:48:32.780 --> 01:48:33.860 Already saying I'm sorry. 01:48:36.460 --> 01:48:42.440 Been listening to the beginning of your last podcast forward this to Yvonne or tell him, 01:48:43.310 --> 01:48:49.470 Yvonne, thank you for the long segment about possible Spanish citizenship. 01:48:50.230 --> 01:48:56.370 Very important that you have figured it out. But to me, it was all brand new stuff to think about. 01:48:56.590 --> 01:49:00.350 Most of us are taught almost nothing about Puerto Rico in school. 01:49:00.570 --> 01:49:05.830 I grew up in Vermont through 12th grade where French Canadians were next door 01:49:05.830 --> 01:49:10.010 and among us and Portuguese, Italian, and Polish immigrants also in significant 01:49:10.010 --> 01:49:12.470 numbers in school and our communities. 01:49:12.470 --> 01:49:19.830 But anyway, I was very interested in all you said, and it is a wonderful case 01:49:19.830 --> 01:49:25.610 history of how folks need to deal with anxiety caused currently in this country. 01:49:26.190 --> 01:49:29.830 Okay, there you go. I thought it was about my singing. 01:49:30.210 --> 01:49:32.310 Okay, all right. No, I was like. 01:49:32.470 --> 01:49:32.910 Holy shit. 01:49:33.170 --> 01:49:37.630 Okay, all right. You did not need to apologize. It was not about your cursing. All right. 01:49:37.730 --> 01:49:39.350 It was not about the singing. All right, okay. 01:49:39.350 --> 01:49:44.190 It is actually, like, thanking you for an interesting segment. 01:49:45.010 --> 01:49:46.950 Okay, all right, excellent. Okay, beautiful. 01:49:47.190 --> 01:49:51.710 Okay, with that, let's close it up. curmudgeons-corner.com. You guys know the drill. 01:49:51.910 --> 01:49:56.770 You can go there, find our archives, transcripts, all the ways to contact us, 01:49:57.070 --> 01:50:00.130 all of that sort of stuff, links to YouTube. 01:50:00.130 --> 01:50:03.870 There is no link to TikTok yet. I'm still, like, a month behind posting things 01:50:03.870 --> 01:50:07.730 to TikTok, but I don't know. Eventually, I'll catch up, I guess. I don't know. 01:50:09.250 --> 01:50:12.950 and importantly there is a link to our patreon where 01:50:12.950 --> 01:50:16.370 you can give us money at various levels we will mention you on the show we will 01:50:16.370 --> 01:50:21.490 ring a bell we will send you a postcard we'll send you a mug or at two dollars 01:50:21.490 --> 01:50:25.850 a month or more or if you just ask we'll invite you to our commudgeons corner 01:50:25.850 --> 01:50:31.230 slack where yvonne and i and a bunch of our listeners are hanging out throughout the week, 01:50:31.850 --> 01:50:36.250 chatting about stuff, the news, sharing links, 01:50:37.270 --> 01:50:42.670 funny, funny news stories, serious news stories, random things about our lives. 01:50:43.610 --> 01:50:49.410 Yo, Yvonne and Pete were talking about financial planning and stocks earlier 01:50:49.410 --> 01:50:51.210 today, and I mostly tuned it out. 01:50:51.450 --> 01:50:54.730 I don't know why we were talking about stocks. 01:50:54.910 --> 01:50:57.150 It was a really long conversation. 01:50:57.510 --> 01:50:59.790 It was something to happen with a company this week. 01:50:59.790 --> 01:51:04.690 I i i got out of the shower because you know time zones are different and all 01:51:04.690 --> 01:51:08.410 that i got out of the shower before going to work and all of a sudden there 01:51:08.410 --> 01:51:15.130 was like pages and pages and pages of discussion of like investment strategies 01:51:15.130 --> 01:51:19.190 and i was like and so i japanese. 01:51:19.190 --> 01:51:21.310 Stocks swiss stocks, 01:51:22.070 --> 01:51:25.450 You know, we talk about, for example, stuff, gold. Yeah, we, 01:51:25.490 --> 01:51:27.790 we, we, you know, we talk about all those, yes. 01:51:28.030 --> 01:51:31.890 Individual company stocks being overweighted in them versus, you know. 01:51:32.330 --> 01:51:34.430 Overweighted, right. Exactly. Yes, yes, yes. 01:51:34.710 --> 01:51:39.050 Anyway, so there's that kind of stuff. But Yvonne, what was something else that 01:51:39.050 --> 01:51:42.510 was mentioned on the Commissions Core Slack that we have not talked about on the show? 01:51:42.950 --> 01:51:51.110 Okay, look, I, this is something I sent just today because I was driving. 01:51:51.650 --> 01:51:55.850 and all of a sudden I don't know if you saw this picture I posted Sam. 01:51:56.050 --> 01:51:56.670 I'm not sure. 01:51:56.790 --> 01:51:59.750 There was a truck okay there was a truck on the road. 01:51:59.970 --> 01:52:00.390 Okay. 01:52:00.750 --> 01:52:05.610 And I shared this picture on random. Sam can you read the logo on the back of 01:52:05.610 --> 01:52:07.550 this company? What is the logo on the back? 01:52:07.650 --> 01:52:08.710 It's an Enron logo. 01:52:08.770 --> 01:52:12.950 What is the name? That's right. It says Enron.com. 01:52:13.450 --> 01:52:21.570 Right. I mean Enron they were supposed to be dead and it says on the side Nuclear You Can Trust. 01:52:22.450 --> 01:52:26.970 Okay? And I was like, what in the fuck? 01:52:27.170 --> 01:52:30.970 What do you mean? Enron is dead. And it's the same logo as before. 01:52:31.270 --> 01:52:35.030 Well, did you follow up by going to Enron.com and checking out the site? 01:52:35.250 --> 01:52:41.910 Yes. And there is, they've got, okay, first came the news that, 01:52:41.990 --> 01:52:48.350 this is a New York Times article they have a link to from their website from January 9th, 2025. 01:52:49.190 --> 01:52:54.010 First came the news that Enron was back. Yes, Enron, the energy company whose 01:52:54.010 --> 01:53:01.310 profits were built on long-term fraud, which ended with filing what was in 2001 01:53:01.310 --> 01:53:03.330 the largest bankruptcy in history. 01:53:04.290 --> 01:53:08.270 Last month, people began noticing a website for a seemingly reborn Enron, 01:53:08.490 --> 01:53:11.990 using the same logo and branding, announcing an ambitious mission, 01:53:12.330 --> 01:53:15.130 solving the global energy crisis. 01:53:15.130 --> 01:53:19.930 Then on Monday, the new Enron emerged with a glitzy marketing video announcing 01:53:19.930 --> 01:53:22.430 its new product, the Enron Egg, 01:53:22.850 --> 01:53:28.250 which the company proclaimed to be the world's first micronuclear reactor for 01:53:28.250 --> 01:53:31.890 residential suburban use. What? 01:53:32.850 --> 01:53:37.650 I, I, you know, the first, you know, as you may have guessed, 01:53:37.830 --> 01:53:44.530 is so was Enron a corporate really about to unleash nuclear reactors' homes around the world? 01:53:44.950 --> 01:53:48.550 As you may have guessed, the answer is no. The announcement indeed was an expected 01:53:48.550 --> 01:53:51.430 return of Enron itself was part of an elaborate stunt. 01:53:51.750 --> 01:53:58.570 But I don't, I still don't understand why is there a truck going around like 01:53:58.570 --> 01:54:03.810 it's hauling stuff for Enron? Apparently, this guy, Mr. 01:54:03.890 --> 01:54:06.650 Gaines, bought the Enron trademark for $275. 01:54:07.170 --> 01:54:10.390 Not bad, I guess. I mean, you know. 01:54:10.510 --> 01:54:11.690 That could have been you, Yvonne. 01:54:12.750 --> 01:54:19.510 Yeah, it could be the new Enron. You know, the power of the atom, flashy graphics. 01:54:20.790 --> 01:54:24.550 Still, anyone thinking the product was genuine might have given additional pause 01:54:24.550 --> 01:54:29.150 when told that the key component was something called erroneum ore. 01:54:31.110 --> 01:54:34.970 erroneum is really just a funny way of renaming materials that are already sort 01:54:34.970 --> 01:54:40.170 of in the zeitgeist this gabbling good continued after Mr. 01:54:40.250 --> 01:54:45.130 Gatos introduced Enron's chief technology officer Daniel Wong who reassured 01:54:45.130 --> 01:54:49.510 any nervous observers that the egg was only used as only 20% enriched uranium 01:54:49.510 --> 01:54:52.270 far too low to make an atomic weapon, 01:54:53.970 --> 01:54:58.630 I don't I don't understand it's gotta be a joke. 01:54:58.630 --> 01:55:02.990 Right I mean, I know you said it was written up in the New York Times, but come on. 01:55:03.190 --> 01:55:06.690 But it was not just in the New York Times. There's a series of articles in here. 01:55:06.790 --> 01:55:09.090 They have a website that is up. 01:55:09.650 --> 01:55:15.270 And they've got a truck running around with, I don't know, with the logo on 01:55:15.270 --> 01:55:17.950 the side on it. So what are they carrying in that truck? 01:55:18.870 --> 01:55:20.050 Those eggs, right? 01:55:20.990 --> 01:55:21.350 Uranium? 01:55:21.550 --> 01:55:24.590 We have been talking about the price of eggs. Is this what they meant? 01:55:25.490 --> 01:55:33.470 Jesus Christ. so some scammer listen let me tell you something i shared earlier 01:55:33.470 --> 01:55:38.510 on the slack that there was another one that bought the theranos brand in south 01:55:38.510 --> 01:55:40.830 florida and had been and i have another one to talk about in. 01:55:40.830 --> 01:55:41.650 A second after you do. 01:55:41.650 --> 01:55:46.510 That that had been pasted buying up billboards and he is trying to rehabilitate 01:55:46.510 --> 01:55:51.870 elizabeth holmes for some reason i think this guy wants the banger or something, I swear to God. 01:55:52.290 --> 01:55:57.510 It's some dude that looks, if you think about one of these guys with like gold 01:55:57.510 --> 01:56:05.890 chains, expensive car, you know, dude, South Miami, that's the image you've got. 01:56:06.130 --> 01:56:10.370 And he's saying Theranos, and he's saying that he built the fucking machine 01:56:10.370 --> 01:56:13.410 that didn't work. And that he's an inventor of some kind. 01:56:16.420 --> 01:56:20.980 So you got a guy reviving Theranos, you got a guy reviving Enron. 01:56:21.660 --> 01:56:24.520 What the, I mean, this is the era of all scams. 01:56:25.380 --> 01:56:26.980 Which scam did you see? 01:56:27.240 --> 01:56:31.660 Okay, so the one I want to talk about, about other companies sort of back from 01:56:31.660 --> 01:56:36.900 the dead, is Commodore, of the Commodore Vic 20 and Commodore 64. 01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:39.160 Well, is that one a scam? 01:56:39.260 --> 01:56:43.240 Well, I don't think so, actually. But here's what's going on with them. 01:56:43.240 --> 01:56:50.520 A bunch of the original employees of Commodore from like the 1980s got together 01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:57.380 and bought up the remnants of the trademarks and IP and things that still existed. 01:56:57.380 --> 01:57:01.660 Who knows what long chain of ownership those went through over the years. 01:57:01.820 --> 01:57:08.420 But they got together, they pooled their money, they bought the rights to the 01:57:08.420 --> 01:57:16.240 name back and everything, and are reviving the company to launch a new Commodore 64. 01:57:17.380 --> 01:57:21.060 And if you go to Commodore.net, you can see some of this stuff. 01:57:21.300 --> 01:57:24.940 They've been posting updates on TikTok, and I've seen a few of them as they've 01:57:24.940 --> 01:57:26.180 gone through this process. 01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:30.260 basically there have been a few like commodore 64 emulators 01:57:30.260 --> 01:57:33.260 that you could buy over the years you know just like you showed on 01:57:33.260 --> 01:57:36.260 the podcast a few weeks you got a atari one 01:57:36.260 --> 01:57:39.260 that's like thousand games in one blah blah blah blah blah and there 01:57:39.260 --> 01:57:42.500 have been a few of those you could get like for commodore games too over the 01:57:42.500 --> 01:57:45.400 years that were basically emulators on newer attack with an 01:57:45.400 --> 01:57:48.420 you know hdmi port and all this stuff their approach 01:57:48.420 --> 01:57:51.660 here is different not an emulator not 01:57:51.660 --> 01:57:54.540 a pc retro gaming heaven in 01:57:54.540 --> 01:57:58.000 three dimensions they are it's powered 01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:04.460 by a recreation of the original motherboard with you know and they're they've 01:58:04.460 --> 01:58:08.460 got one that's modern components i guess they've got one that's uh in the classic 01:58:08.460 --> 01:58:11.960 look and feel and they're doing another one that's like transparent with leds 01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:17.560 all over the place and stuff like that but they're basically recreating the original tech, 01:58:18.040 --> 01:58:22.980 the original old tech, and just putting out a new version of it, 01:58:23.100 --> 01:58:25.380 apparently. Now, this is something, I mean, 01:58:25.780 --> 01:58:30.420 The appeal of this is not, there are not a lot of people who want to buy this thing, okay? 01:58:31.020 --> 01:58:37.000 No, no, no. There's a specific niche group of people who might be interested in this. 01:58:37.400 --> 01:58:40.960 I've seen other people, by the way, with retro computing projects. 01:58:41.200 --> 01:58:47.240 Somebody took original Commodore 64 hardware, but built a new operating system 01:58:47.240 --> 01:58:55.180 for it that was more modern, could use a mouse, could take internet access. 01:58:55.180 --> 01:58:59.120 They hacked it into like, you know, Ethernet at like a slow, 01:58:59.340 --> 01:59:03.520 whatever, slow pace the thing could do and did some proof of concepts of it 01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:05.420 interacting with the Internet in various ways. 01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:11.660 There are a lot of people there. There are people who are into retro computing, but it's a small market. 01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:13.920 It's a tiny market. 01:59:14.040 --> 01:59:18.600 These people are clearly people who they were involved in the original company. 01:59:18.620 --> 01:59:21.540 They love the concept. They love the old hardware. 01:59:21.860 --> 01:59:26.060 They're bringing it back for nostalgia. I don't think they're anticipating that 01:59:26.060 --> 01:59:30.740 they're going to make fortunes off of this stuff, but they're bringing it back for the folks who might. 01:59:31.060 --> 01:59:34.680 So you don't think they're going to dethrone any of the. 01:59:35.200 --> 01:59:37.400 Microsoft and Apple are safe. 01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:43.960 I think they're safe. I mean, like, look, there were some interesting things 01:59:43.960 --> 01:59:49.300 that Commodore had, like the Amiga, in some ways, was ahead of its time. 01:59:49.740 --> 01:59:54.200 Hell, even the VIC-20 and Commodore 64 in some ways were ahead of their time. 01:59:54.340 --> 01:59:58.160 But they obviously lost that war. 02:00:00.300 --> 02:00:00.900 Badly. 02:00:01.040 --> 02:00:05.020 Badly. They were not even second or third in that battle. 02:00:05.200 --> 02:00:09.960 No, they were, they were, you know, but, but you know, I have, 02:00:10.060 --> 02:00:13.360 I have lots of nostalgia for my Vic 20 and my Commodore 64. 02:00:13.480 --> 02:00:20.200 I always wanted an Amiga, but I never got one, you know, and it's a cool little thing. 02:00:20.340 --> 02:00:22.540 They're going to, they're going to price the thing at two 99. 02:00:23.360 --> 02:00:27.180 They're going to price the thing at two 99. And you know, I don't know, 02:00:27.240 --> 02:00:30.220 it might be cool. It might be fun. I don't know. 02:00:30.680 --> 02:00:35.180 I mean, honestly, I have my original Commodore 64 and my original VIC-20 in 02:00:35.180 --> 02:00:37.880 the garage somewhere. I just have to find them and pull them out. 02:00:38.120 --> 02:00:42.620 They probably still work. I mean, there are some components that degrade over, 02:00:42.620 --> 02:00:44.800 like, however many fucking years it's been. 02:00:45.060 --> 02:00:50.760 You know, since, I mean, what was the 1984 or something for the VIC-20? 02:00:50.820 --> 02:00:51.880 It was 40 years ago. 02:00:52.080 --> 02:00:52.280 Yeah. 02:00:52.540 --> 02:00:53.520 45 years ago. 02:00:53.640 --> 02:00:56.700 But they can be repaired, even if, like, some capacitor has, 02:00:56.720 --> 02:00:59.220 like, gooed all over the place or something, you know? 02:00:59.220 --> 02:01:02.680 Actually, those are actually even simpler to repair. Yeah, exactly. 02:01:03.040 --> 02:01:04.160 You replace a few components. 02:01:04.160 --> 02:01:04.960 You can do it. 02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:05.600 Yeah. 02:01:05.720 --> 02:01:08.600 But anyway, I found it interesting. I saw, I've, like I said, 02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:11.220 I've watched a few of the videos. Serial. 02:01:11.260 --> 02:01:14.920 But I was bringing, I'm bringing back scammers. You're bringing back like this 02:01:14.920 --> 02:01:17.600 is real. You want people to spend money. I'm talking about. 02:01:17.980 --> 02:01:19.820 I'm talking about bringing back fraud. 02:01:19.820 --> 02:01:20.660 The last video. 02:01:21.020 --> 02:01:21.760 Like a real fraud. 02:01:22.040 --> 02:01:25.640 The last video I saw from them on TikTok was, 02:01:26.210 --> 02:01:29.650 the serial number 0001 of 02:01:29.650 --> 02:01:32.970 the new motherboard coming off the assembly line and 02:01:32.970 --> 02:01:36.890 a bunch of them signing it and i guess they're going to put like some sort of 02:01:36.890 --> 02:01:41.690 like if if you're the one who actually gets number one there's some sort of 02:01:41.690 --> 02:01:45.630 prize or something that comes with it you know when okay if you buy the thing 02:01:45.630 --> 02:01:51.810 but yeah they're selling it for 299 that's not bad i yeah i could do $299 for a piece of nostalgia. 02:01:52.130 --> 02:01:57.910 Now, having said that, you can get those, like, 1,500 games in one for less 02:01:57.910 --> 02:01:59.810 than that. A lot less than that. 02:02:00.450 --> 02:02:01.810 Yes, way less than that. 02:02:01.850 --> 02:02:04.630 And this would have less capability than that. But, you know, 02:02:04.750 --> 02:02:08.810 whatever. It's cool. It's the old-looking thing. Yeah. 02:02:09.070 --> 02:02:10.650 Does it got the little RF adapter? 02:02:10.690 --> 02:02:14.210 No, although they have done some improvements. I'm looking at the back. 02:02:14.450 --> 02:02:19.590 It's definitely got a few modern ports in the back of it that were not in the original Commodore 64. 02:02:20.570 --> 02:02:25.430 I was just curious if you had to use a little RF adapter with a little slide. 02:02:25.950 --> 02:02:30.170 I'm trying to pause this thing. Does it have an HDMI? I don't know. 02:02:30.530 --> 02:02:32.570 It would be crazy if they don't. 02:02:32.610 --> 02:02:38.410 If they didn't, they're not a fucking plug-in into anything without a fucking HDMI. It's got to. 02:02:38.690 --> 02:02:45.010 Let's play 10,000 plus original games with more RAM. You can plug in the old 02:02:45.010 --> 02:02:50.010 original cartridges if you have some, or read from the data cassettes if you have them. 02:02:50.330 --> 02:02:52.570 10,000 games on it. 02:02:52.610 --> 02:02:56.990 10,000 original games. But yeah, if you have the old drives, 02:02:57.390 --> 02:03:00.210 old data cassette drives, disk drives, whatever, they'll all work. 02:03:00.350 --> 02:03:03.490 It can hook up to a CRT TV if you've got those. 02:03:03.830 --> 02:03:07.570 No disk drive needed. You can load them off USB. 02:03:08.550 --> 02:03:12.230 Let's see, more memory, faster speed. So it's not just the original. 02:03:12.230 --> 02:03:16.510 It is upgraded. And yes, it does have HDMI. So... 02:03:17.030 --> 02:03:17.350 Okay. 02:03:17.990 --> 02:03:18.350 Anyway. 02:03:18.630 --> 02:03:19.490 All right, well, let's wrap up. 02:03:19.650 --> 02:03:21.570 Okay, we are done. Thank you, everybody. 02:03:22.840 --> 02:03:27.020 Yeah. Have a great week. Stay safe. All the stuff we usually say. 02:03:27.480 --> 02:03:31.240 And we'll see you next time. Goodbye. 02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:32.400 Bye. 02:04:02.400 --> 02:04:05.800 Thank you. Okay, that's it. I managed to get through the whole show without 02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:07.140 crashing once. That's good, right? 02:04:07.980 --> 02:04:11.840 So that must have been that external drive, you think? One of the external drives? 02:04:12.460 --> 02:04:14.480 I'll continue to troubleshoot. It might be. 02:04:15.100 --> 02:04:18.660 I think it has to be if you were able. Yeah, because he had no issues today. 02:04:19.420 --> 02:04:25.260 There are only 4,785 of these C64s available to buy still in their first batch. 02:04:25.380 --> 02:04:26.380 So you better get right on that. 02:04:27.080 --> 02:04:29.080 Oh, yeah. I'm running out the door right now. 02:04:29.180 --> 02:04:32.160 Shipping November 2025. You can get it for Christmas. 02:04:32.420 --> 02:04:35.800 Yep. Excellent. Excellent. I'll make sure that, you know. 02:04:36.480 --> 02:04:38.840 Okay. I'm hitting stop. Later, Yvonne. 02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:41.020 All right. Stopping.