WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:00.690 Hello? 00:00:01.610 --> 00:00:02.290 Hello. 00:00:02.950 --> 00:00:04.210 Okay, you can hear me. Good. 00:00:04.550 --> 00:00:07.930 I can hear you. I can hear you. 00:00:07.930 --> 00:00:11.870 I can hear you loud and clear. 00:00:13.810 --> 00:00:19.330 Yes. Yes, I can. Yeah, that was amazing. 00:00:20.790 --> 00:00:23.490 We will make a new break out of that. 00:00:24.290 --> 00:00:28.110 That sounds great. There you go. 00:00:30.450 --> 00:00:34.250 Waiting for the live stream announcement to go out for a second here. 00:00:35.070 --> 00:00:35.550 Yeah. 00:00:35.970 --> 00:00:38.250 Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:00:39.410 --> 00:00:39.790 Yeah. 00:00:40.890 --> 00:00:44.050 I'm on any second now. You can do it. 00:00:45.170 --> 00:00:51.110 Okay. And then I have to put this back. Okay. Media live. 00:00:51.990 --> 00:00:54.910 Go. Shall we go? Go. 00:00:55.090 --> 00:00:55.210 Go. 00:00:55.810 --> 00:00:56.590 Go. Here we go. 00:00:56.830 --> 00:00:57.590 Here we go. 00:01:19.070 --> 00:01:25.650 Welcome to Curmudgeons Corner for Saturday, August 16th, 2025. 00:01:25.890 --> 00:01:30.030 It's just after 17 UTC as we're starting to record. I am Sam. 00:01:30.370 --> 00:01:34.870 Yvonne Bo is here. Or I'm Sam Minter. Yvonne Bo is here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:01:35.610 --> 00:01:39.650 I forgot my last name. I usually say my last name. I am just Sam, 00:01:39.790 --> 00:01:43.230 but I usually fully identify myself. 00:01:43.430 --> 00:01:44.470 Samuel Antonio. 00:01:45.130 --> 00:01:49.730 That's right. Samuel Antonio Minter. I should add more names. 00:01:50.350 --> 00:01:52.670 You know, I have a niece. 00:01:52.870 --> 00:01:57.590 I could do the four-name style, you know, and Minter Brandon. 00:01:58.010 --> 00:02:01.150 Well, okay. So, well, I have a niece who, 00:02:01.470 --> 00:02:09.450 for some reason, I'm not really sure why did this, her full name is Cristina 00:02:09.450 --> 00:02:13.310 Barbara del Carmen Cusa Bo. 00:02:14.030 --> 00:02:14.590 Nice. 00:02:14.970 --> 00:02:21.010 Okay. It's, I mean, I don't know how the hell, you know, I mean, 00:02:21.350 --> 00:02:27.130 I gotta, I mean, I gotta, you know, I gotta show me her, I think in her passport. 00:02:27.710 --> 00:02:33.670 It's like shortened to like Christina Barbara I don't think they've got enough 00:02:33.670 --> 00:02:38.210 room for all of that But I think her birth certificate is, 00:02:39.070 --> 00:02:43.050 Christina Barbara del Carmen Okay Which is, that's her first, 00:02:43.110 --> 00:02:45.330 that's just her first and middle name, 00:02:46.250 --> 00:02:52.030 You know, so thankfully our, like my, my brother-in-law's and our last names 00:02:52.030 --> 00:02:56.270 are short, you know, it's like four letters for his only three for our, 00:02:56.370 --> 00:02:57.530 so, you know, at least, you know. 00:02:58.150 --> 00:03:03.290 So I looked up, there's a list of the longest full names. 00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:04.770 Okay. Okay. 00:03:05.290 --> 00:03:13.670 Okay. Now, number 10 is Salvador Dali, whose full name is Salvador Felipe Jacinto 00:03:13.670 --> 00:03:16.790 Dali y Dominic, which is 34 characters. 00:03:17.430 --> 00:03:20.370 You know, and that's not all that long. 00:03:21.230 --> 00:03:26.290 I mean, I think that my niece is close. I mean, you take Cristina Barbera del 00:03:26.290 --> 00:03:28.570 Carmen Cusabo, what shit? I got to count. 00:03:28.630 --> 00:03:31.730 I mean, presumably these are the 10 longest famous. 00:03:31.850 --> 00:03:32.710 Famous. Yes. 00:03:32.870 --> 00:03:33.550 Famous people. 00:03:33.730 --> 00:03:34.530 Yeah, famous people. 00:03:35.150 --> 00:03:38.790 Then we got ones that are clearly sort of made up. 00:03:39.150 --> 00:03:43.970 Like number nine is, Nicholas, unless Jesus Christ had died for thee, 00:03:44.090 --> 00:03:45.730 thou hast been damned, Barbun. 00:03:46.150 --> 00:03:47.970 Oh, come on. To hell. 00:03:48.730 --> 00:03:57.150 From 1640, 74 characters. Then we have, Tarkeen fin tim lin bin win bim lim 00:03:57.150 --> 00:04:00.670 bus stop fatang fatang ole biscuit barrel. 00:04:01.470 --> 00:04:02.390 And who is this? 00:04:03.730 --> 00:04:09.590 Born in 1959, 76 characters, was originally named John Desmond Lewis, 00:04:09.730 --> 00:04:13.330 but decided to change his name into a standing reference to one of his favorite 00:04:13.330 --> 00:04:14.490 Monty Python characters. 00:04:14.490 --> 00:04:18.810 You know what? That doesn't count. Because that's not the name. 00:04:18.930 --> 00:04:25.030 You know, I'm going with names that their parents gave. Because if you change 00:04:25.030 --> 00:04:27.170 it later for a gimmick, as many people have. 00:04:27.270 --> 00:04:32.370 That's BS. Yes, that doesn't count. Yes. And then we have Pablo Picasso, 00:04:33.190 --> 00:04:41.150 Pablo Diego, Jose Francisco de Paula, Juan, Nepomuncio, Maria de los Remedios, 00:04:41.390 --> 00:04:47.750 Siprano de la Santisma, Trinidad, Ruiz y Picasso. You got a Ruiz. 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:54.170 You know, this is more, you know, it's like almost the same vein as what happened with my niece. 00:04:54.170 --> 00:04:58.770 I don't understand why, you know, and it's, I don't think it's a coincidence 00:04:58.770 --> 00:05:03.650 that both of those, because Dali and Picasso are both from Spain, right? Yeah. 00:05:04.470 --> 00:05:08.710 I don't think that it's a coincidence that, you know, us of being of Spanish 00:05:08.710 --> 00:05:14.810 descent as well, also, you know, decided on this ridiculously long names. 00:05:15.050 --> 00:05:18.910 So I think, I think there's a, I think you see a theme here. Okay. With. 00:05:19.570 --> 00:05:23.590 Then, then we have another gimmick one. I won't do all 10 of these. 00:05:23.590 --> 00:05:29.190 But this is Anna, Bertha, Cecilia, Diana, Emily, Fanny, Gertrude, 00:05:29.630 --> 00:05:34.810 Hypatia, Inez, Jane, Kate, Louise, Maude, Nora, Ophelia, Prudence, 00:05:34.950 --> 00:05:36.910 Quince, Rebecca, Sarah, Teresa, 00:05:37.710 --> 00:05:41.570 Ulysses, Venus, Winifred, Xenophon, Yeti, Xeno, Pepper. 00:05:42.010 --> 00:05:47.970 Oh, come on, man. The fuck? Any other non-gimmick ones in there did you say? 00:05:48.050 --> 00:05:49.010 Oh, let's see. 00:05:50.590 --> 00:05:57.810 Yeah, this one changed his name. This one changed his name. 00:06:00.390 --> 00:06:05.490 This one clearly changed his name. All his middle names are... 00:06:05.490 --> 00:06:09.270 The first and last name are James Bond. 00:06:09.610 --> 00:06:10.190 Okay. 00:06:10.310 --> 00:06:12.770 The middle names are the names of all the movies. 00:06:13.570 --> 00:06:16.110 What a fuck. Come on. Jesus. 00:06:16.110 --> 00:06:21.530 Um, number two, clearly made up as well. 00:06:21.750 --> 00:06:24.950 And number, I can't even, 00:06:25.690 --> 00:06:31.650 the, the, the number one is not a lot of short names, 00:06:31.950 --> 00:06:39.510 but has a particular, their last name by itself is like several hundred characters 00:06:39.510 --> 00:06:41.470 of German sounding stuff. 00:06:42.170 --> 00:06:44.810 Okay. But yes. 00:06:44.810 --> 00:06:50.550 But the only two that were not some kind of gimmick, made up, 00:06:50.890 --> 00:06:56.670 happened to coincide, like with my knees, that they are either from Spain or Spanish descent. 00:06:57.430 --> 00:06:57.570 Yeah. 00:06:58.810 --> 00:07:03.970 I don't know what the hell our problem is. I mean, I remember my sister, 00:07:04.170 --> 00:07:07.470 you know, they told me that that was the day that we were giving her at the 00:07:07.470 --> 00:07:08.950 baptism. I'm like, what? 00:07:10.090 --> 00:07:12.890 Wait, how long is his name? What the hell? 00:07:14.330 --> 00:07:19.910 So, yes. So, anyway, we're going to do our but first non-newsy stuff. 00:07:20.210 --> 00:07:22.870 Yvonne will have something. I will do a couple movies. 00:07:23.510 --> 00:07:27.990 And then we will do news stuff for the rest of the show after that. That's the plan. 00:07:28.210 --> 00:07:33.470 That's always the plan these days. Unless there's something huge that's blowing 00:07:33.470 --> 00:07:37.550 up that, you know, we drop everything to deal with that. 00:07:37.930 --> 00:07:43.130 You know, there's this Key and Peele skit. Who? Key and Peele. 00:07:43.270 --> 00:07:45.070 I don't know them. I don't know, though. 00:07:45.470 --> 00:07:49.410 Oh, come on. You've seen some of these. You remember the guy that did the, 00:07:49.530 --> 00:07:56.230 whatchamacallit, at Obama when he did one of the... 00:07:56.890 --> 00:07:58.110 The anger guy? 00:07:58.410 --> 00:08:01.670 The things that they... Yeah, exactly. That guy. You see? There you go. 00:08:01.910 --> 00:08:06.390 I remember him, but I don't know Key and P. I just looked him up on Wikipedia. No idea. 00:08:06.430 --> 00:08:07.690 All right. So that's the... 00:08:07.690 --> 00:08:10.990 I do recognize... They have a picture of Key performing as Luther, 00:08:11.450 --> 00:08:13.190 the President Obama's anger translator. 00:08:13.310 --> 00:08:16.710 And I remember that. Okay. So you remember that. So, you know, 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:22.090 his partner, one time they did this short clip where the guy was at an office 00:08:22.090 --> 00:08:23.650 and he was getting coffee. Okay. 00:08:23.930 --> 00:08:28.750 And you can see that he was sitting like by a window and, you know, 00:08:28.770 --> 00:08:32.910 he goes and he's looking through the sweeteners and he takes the, 00:08:32.910 --> 00:08:37.390 you know, the, you know, the diet one, the non-sugar one. Okay. 00:08:37.590 --> 00:08:41.430 And he's picking which one he's measuring. He's going to go when he's going 00:08:41.430 --> 00:08:45.050 to. The blue and the pink and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, he's looking at those, right? 00:08:45.210 --> 00:08:47.490 He's going to put it in. And all of a sudden, outside the window, 00:08:47.590 --> 00:08:52.210 as people are looking, a nuclear explosion happens in the distance. Okay? All right? 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:52.750 Okay. 00:08:52.950 --> 00:08:56.070 And you can see that a lot of people in the room start panicking, 00:08:56.230 --> 00:09:01.170 obviously, as I think that if I were sitting here and I looked up north and 00:09:01.170 --> 00:09:07.070 I saw a nuke, you know, go off, I'm not sure what my reaction would be. 00:09:07.150 --> 00:09:10.850 But if I'm in a room with a lot of people, I expect a lot of screaming. 00:09:11.530 --> 00:09:15.010 Okay. And gasping. Okay. I think that that would be the reaction. 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:18.100 would happen don't don't you think i. 00:09:18.100 --> 00:09:20.360 I would expect swearing from you. 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.380 Yes i think that that i i 00:09:23.380 --> 00:09:26.120 think that you're right i think that my first words would 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:32.520 be what the yeah i think that would start from there yes i think that that's 00:09:32.520 --> 00:09:38.200 a good point but this guy openings coffee nuke goes off people around him panicking 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.820 he's looking at that he's looking at his coffee he's making his coffee He drops 00:09:42.820 --> 00:09:45.260 the artificial sweetener, 00:09:45.580 --> 00:09:49.560 grabs the regular sugar, and just starts pouring it into his coffee. 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.620 I mean, at that point, it's like, what the fuck, man? You know, what am I doing? 00:09:53.860 --> 00:09:57.780 Okay. So I don't think that we are in that kind of situation right now where 00:09:57.780 --> 00:10:03.500 you're like, you know, I don't think that, I don't expect that you're going to look out your window. 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:06.620 And over the next 90 minutes, two 00:10:06.620 --> 00:10:13.320 hours, we're going to see some kind of a event of that level right now. 00:10:13.680 --> 00:10:17.160 I mean, there is a, there is a naval base a few miles from me that is a target. 00:10:17.660 --> 00:10:21.780 Yeah. But you know what? Here's a, here's a reality right now because we're 00:10:21.780 --> 00:10:24.080 doing this podcast and we're tuned to the news. 00:10:24.460 --> 00:10:24.880 Yes. 00:10:25.040 --> 00:10:28.700 If there was a nuclear launch warning. 00:10:30.160 --> 00:10:36.140 Right. We would be here and all of a sudden, blue sky, the news alerts, 00:10:36.520 --> 00:10:41.920 all of a sudden they would be like going off like crazy that we have had a nuclear launch detection. 00:10:42.740 --> 00:10:45.680 I wouldn't think that that would be the first thing, right? 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:50.280 Because there's no way that they would keep it like a secret over there. 00:10:50.420 --> 00:10:56.080 Because, you know, if there's a nuclear launch detection, do you think that 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:59.380 it wouldn't leak? could be i mean people i mean it would. 00:10:59.380 --> 00:11:04.540 If they can't keep that if you remember we've had the opposite problem with 00:11:04.540 --> 00:11:07.900 like hawaii sending out the alerts of an incoming missile when there wasn't 00:11:07.900 --> 00:11:09.520 right a few years back we've. 00:11:09.520 --> 00:11:11.600 Had we've had that we've had. 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:18.260 That now and uh yeah so but you never know like what it could have been like 00:11:18.260 --> 00:11:23.320 a smuggled in terrorist thing instead of like uh that's true Missile? 00:11:23.560 --> 00:11:26.140 That very true. Very true. Okay. 00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:26.780 Could be. 00:11:27.280 --> 00:11:31.720 And I am relatively near Mar-a-Lago. And look, there is a thing. 00:11:31.900 --> 00:11:34.780 I am relatively near Mar-a-Lago. Okay? 00:11:35.300 --> 00:11:36.080 There you go. 00:11:36.420 --> 00:11:40.980 Which, you know, if some psychopathic terrorist decides that they want to nuke 00:11:40.980 --> 00:11:44.500 Mar-a-Lago, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to see the mushroom cloud. 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:49.220 There you go. So, keep an eye out your window during the show. 00:11:49.220 --> 00:11:54.640 That is not the solution to anybody that listens to this, for the love of God. 00:11:55.100 --> 00:11:58.460 That is not the solution. That is not the solution. 00:11:59.500 --> 00:12:03.500 I'm sure our listener base had already started building their bomb when you said that. 00:12:04.640 --> 00:12:09.160 Jesus. Yeah, no, no. Don't try to get nuclear material. 00:12:11.230 --> 00:12:14.130 This is not, that's not the solution to the, to the problem. 00:12:14.910 --> 00:12:20.130 Okay. So you got a non-newsy thing you want to start talking about before I do movies? 00:12:20.590 --> 00:12:25.730 I'm going to talk a little bit about, because I didn't talk about this a couple 00:12:25.730 --> 00:12:31.930 of weeks ago, about me trying to fast charge our new BMW. Okay. All right. 00:12:32.890 --> 00:12:37.050 Because I don't, I don't even know if I mentioned this on the show that we decided 00:12:37.050 --> 00:12:40.030 to, I can't remember. I don't know. It's so busy. 00:12:40.030 --> 00:12:41.690 This is the one you got for your wife, right? 00:12:41.950 --> 00:12:48.270 Correct, yes. My wife had decided that, well, look, we, tax bill passed. 00:12:49.130 --> 00:12:53.690 We had been discussing getting it, replacing her Honda CRV hybrid, 00:12:53.910 --> 00:12:58.230 that the lease is up in less than six months around there. 00:12:59.250 --> 00:13:03.350 We had been planning on getting an EV. The thing is that with the tax breaks 00:13:03.350 --> 00:13:08.270 expiring, I was like, well, you know, try to do this before the end of September. 00:13:08.690 --> 00:13:11.670 Okay? All right? Let's not wait till lease end, okay? 00:13:11.930 --> 00:13:16.990 Let's, you know, and the car, you know, we could get out of the car with no money. 00:13:17.090 --> 00:13:20.750 You know, it's like we had not put any money down. We could just trade. 00:13:21.330 --> 00:13:24.950 It was in a lease where, you know, with the value of the car, 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:28.250 we could walk, you know, we just turn it in. It's fine. No problem. 00:13:28.770 --> 00:13:35.150 You know, there was no, you know, there was no, oh, my God, this car owes more than it's worth. 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:37.210 It's got excess miles or something. No, no, no. We could just, 00:13:37.610 --> 00:13:40.830 no, whatever. This was just any time over the next six months, 00:13:40.910 --> 00:13:44.850 we could just basically just go and like get a new car at this point. 00:13:45.550 --> 00:13:49.390 So, so, you know, we know it was coming. So we did get the end. 00:13:49.510 --> 00:13:53.450 My wife, I said, look, I don't know. What is it that you're interested in? 00:13:53.450 --> 00:13:59.030 She had, she had gone, she had been all over the place about what kind of car she wanted. Okay. 00:13:59.730 --> 00:14:03.210 At some point she had even decided, I don't even want an electric vehicle, 00:14:03.310 --> 00:14:04.630 even though many times she had said she did. 00:14:05.590 --> 00:14:08.670 You know, I want another hybrid maybe. Okay, so I don't know. She'd be going back. 00:14:08.670 --> 00:14:12.810 Wait, wait, let me guess. She wants one of those little three wheelers where 00:14:12.810 --> 00:14:15.810 the front opens up instead of doors on the side. 00:14:15.970 --> 00:14:20.170 Not that. As far as I know, the closest thing that she had gotten to that over 00:14:20.170 --> 00:14:25.770 the last few years was the little BMW i3, which if anybody hasn't looked, you got to look it up on. 00:14:25.870 --> 00:14:31.710 It's this little, like, it's this little tiny, like, little station wagon hatchback thing. 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:32.830 Oh, that's cute. I like it. 00:14:32.930 --> 00:14:33.190 Yes. 00:14:33.430 --> 00:14:33.690 I just looked it up. 00:14:33.750 --> 00:14:35.910 As a matter of fact, you know, here's the thing. 00:14:36.690 --> 00:14:39.890 BMW was ahead of its time with that car. That car did not sell well. 00:14:40.170 --> 00:14:41.670 That car was released 10 years ago. 00:14:42.030 --> 00:14:45.710 The reality is that people now are saying, you know what, BMW, 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:49.870 if you went back to production of this car, this car would sell very well now. 00:14:50.270 --> 00:14:54.290 It was just ahead of its time. It was really, a lot of people that actually, 00:14:54.470 --> 00:14:57.510 oh, the last ones that were made are like, this is a great car. 00:14:57.630 --> 00:15:01.150 And some people grabbed some recently I saw, grabbed the used one and they said, 00:15:01.730 --> 00:15:04.930 what the hell, this car looks like they could just be selling it right now. 00:15:05.350 --> 00:15:10.470 Now, it came in pure electric, pure electric hybrid. You could get both. 00:15:10.690 --> 00:15:13.730 OK, basically, they called it like a range extender kind of a thing. 00:15:14.650 --> 00:15:17.650 It was a nice car. So she had considered that at some point. 00:15:18.370 --> 00:15:26.370 She had looked at a lot of different cars. Cadillac. We had we had I had not been keen on a Tesla. 00:15:26.530 --> 00:15:30.770 We had actually I know she had looked at at some when they used to have a retail 00:15:30.770 --> 00:15:34.090 store. but in their omniscience, they decided to get rid of retail stores because 00:15:34.090 --> 00:15:35.590 why do you need people to see product? 00:15:36.770 --> 00:15:41.170 Anyway, they got to trust Elon that it's all there. She didn't like it anyway. 00:15:42.490 --> 00:15:47.670 So then all of a sudden she said, look, I want a BMW. Let's go see the BMWs. 00:15:47.790 --> 00:15:50.290 I'm like, okay. And at first what she wanted to see was the SUV. 00:15:51.010 --> 00:15:55.770 But she tried the SUV. She didn't like it. I didn't particularly like the BMW iX myself. 00:15:57.210 --> 00:16:03.230 One thing that I will say that drove me nuts is there's an insistence now with 00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:09.270 a lot of the EV manufacturers to have a fixed glass roof that doesn't have a shade. 00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:14.630 I want a fucking sunshade that I can close completely. 00:16:14.950 --> 00:16:18.090 Darkening it, it has a stick, well, you can darken it. 00:16:18.190 --> 00:16:23.490 No, look, I don't want it just darkened. I want to be able to fucking deploy 00:16:23.490 --> 00:16:26.510 a shade over the damn roof. 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:34.860 And that didn't have that. I will say another thing that really irritated me. I was in the backseat. 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:39.800 It doesn't have door handles. It had these buttons to open the rear doors. 00:16:40.060 --> 00:16:43.540 I couldn't figure out how to fucking open a door. Can I just say something? 00:16:43.900 --> 00:16:52.200 A car needs to be able to be easily opened by anybody in the car. 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.700 This is something I don't understand the obsession with car manufacturers on 00:16:56.700 --> 00:17:00.320 fucking hyper complicating something that should be simple. 00:17:01.260 --> 00:17:03.980 And also without thinking about it. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.940 Yeah, I don't, you know. 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:07.240 Opening. 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:08.300 The damn door. 00:17:08.300 --> 00:17:13.100 Like a random person. I mean, not like you want random people entering your 00:17:13.100 --> 00:17:17.840 car without notice, but like you should be able to pick up a random relative 00:17:17.840 --> 00:17:19.480 who's never seen your car before. 00:17:19.840 --> 00:17:22.700 and they should be able to get into the back seat without you explaining. 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:27.660 Without instructions and get out. Yes. Especially the getting out part, 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.320 like in an accident or something. 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:30.960 Oh, it was hard to get out too. 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:32.040 It was hard to get out. 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:32.480 It wasn't just getting out. 00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:35.840 It was more, no, it was hard. Yeah, it was a little bit hard to get in. 00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:38.020 Yes, because I remember the doorknobs were a little bit like, 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:40.940 what the fuck are the doorknobs? But it was harder to get out. 00:17:41.600 --> 00:17:42.900 Hmm, okay. 00:17:43.420 --> 00:17:48.240 That really pissed me off. But I didn't say anything because this is her car. And I'm just like. 00:17:48.340 --> 00:17:54.040 Look, whatever whatever's good for you whatever she you know you know i i i 00:17:54.040 --> 00:17:58.700 will i will be clear like the the car my wife is it and now of course since 00:17:58.700 --> 00:18:04.080 i've updated she wants a new car too at some point but you know she's wanted 00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:06.460 a new car for a long time but well it's old i. 00:18:06.460 --> 00:18:07.300 Mean it's been you know. 00:18:07.300 --> 00:18:14.760 It's it's it's it's it's only a couple years behind mine but uh and by the way i still like 10 years, 00:18:15.870 --> 00:18:20.870 I still really like my Ioniq, right? But anyway, no, but I've always hated her car. 00:18:21.490 --> 00:18:27.530 From, like, I despise driving. I never liked her car. I despised her car. 00:18:27.610 --> 00:18:30.610 I don't like the way it's laid out. I don't like the internal stuff. 00:18:30.770 --> 00:18:35.630 I don't like, you know, just the physical layout of the controls and how it 00:18:35.630 --> 00:18:37.710 feels to sit in it. I never liked it. 00:18:37.990 --> 00:18:41.890 But it was her car. And she liked it. And she liked it. 00:18:42.330 --> 00:18:44.890 So, like, what do I have to say about it? Exactly. 00:18:45.450 --> 00:18:48.950 So I occasionally have to drive it, but not all the time. 00:18:49.110 --> 00:18:53.590 So I was in the IX and I was like, you know, the one thing that I was working 00:18:53.590 --> 00:18:56.390 on is like, you know, we had a budget and we had like, you know, 00:18:56.470 --> 00:18:57.350 what the numbers worked. 00:18:57.490 --> 00:19:01.730 I mean, the one thing is I was doing the, I said, look, you need to pick what it is. 00:19:01.830 --> 00:19:06.230 I'll figure out the, I'll figure out the financial deal. 00:19:06.450 --> 00:19:08.770 Okay. Don't, don't worry about that. Let me just, let me just, 00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:10.490 you know, let me, let me see what it is. 00:19:10.590 --> 00:19:12.430 It fits in our budget and whatever. We talked about, you know, 00:19:12.490 --> 00:19:15.250 we, you know, we're trying to stay within a certain range of, 00:19:15.350 --> 00:19:17.330 of the payment where she was at right now. 00:19:17.490 --> 00:19:19.990 So we had agreed on that. And I said, listen, let me deal with that. 00:19:20.310 --> 00:19:22.130 Okay. So I know what you, I know what you want. 00:19:22.670 --> 00:19:24.690 So let me, let me, let me work on that part. 00:19:25.270 --> 00:19:29.230 So look, so I was like, even though that car was more expensive, 00:19:29.230 --> 00:19:32.250 the deals or whatever, it'll work out, whatever. 00:19:32.410 --> 00:19:35.770 So I'm like, look, whatever, you know, this is in the range. I saw the numbers. 00:19:36.310 --> 00:19:38.950 If she likes it, I'm like, I may not like it, but whatever. It's her choice. 00:19:39.370 --> 00:19:41.630 Well, she hated it. Okay. All right. She didn't like it. 00:19:42.430 --> 00:19:46.810 She drove it. She hated it. This thing's too big. What the fuck? Okay. 00:19:47.810 --> 00:19:52.710 It doesn't drive like a fucking BMW. And I'm like, okay, so then she saw, well, it was an i4. 00:19:52.870 --> 00:19:56.910 The i4 is a small sports sedan. Okay. 00:19:57.780 --> 00:20:00.860 I was like, oh, well, you want to, I mean, we don't really need an SUV anymore. 00:20:01.040 --> 00:20:04.600 I mean, I got a station wagon. It's got plenty of room. Okay. 00:20:04.620 --> 00:20:04.760 Okay. 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:08.040 You know, so we don't really need the SUV anymore. We needed it when one was 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:10.280 little, but honestly, right now we don't really need it. 00:20:10.860 --> 00:20:14.320 And so she was like, oh, let me try it. Let me try the, let me try the little 00:20:14.320 --> 00:20:17.200 sports sedan. Well, she tried it. She loved it. Okay. 00:20:17.740 --> 00:20:20.620 She loved it. And it was actually cheaper than the other car too, 00:20:20.700 --> 00:20:25.220 which that worked out well. And so we got that. It's great. 00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:32.100 That car is great. I really, she, I mean, she, honestly, I'd considered that 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:33.900 to replace my car a couple of times. 00:20:34.080 --> 00:20:37.880 I looked at it. I really liked it. I, the i4, the i5, this car, 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.640 it's, it's great. Okay. I cannot say enough good things. 00:20:42.280 --> 00:20:47.040 Very efficient electrically, you know, it's very comfortable. 00:20:47.300 --> 00:20:48.300 The electronics are great. 00:20:48.660 --> 00:20:52.080 The only mistake I did is I didn't realize I didn't have the active cruise control 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:56.820 package, but I realize right now that because of the way we drive and how she 00:20:56.820 --> 00:21:01.260 uses it, Really don't miss it that much. I thought I would a lot more. Okay. 00:21:01.780 --> 00:21:04.280 Never commute in that car, whatever. 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:09.060 I realized, eh, it's not that big a deal. I'm like, I realized. 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.540 But next time, I'll pay, you know. But I didn't realize it on the package. 00:21:14.900 --> 00:21:19.320 The damn sticker confused me. It had these words, you know, how automakers do. 00:21:19.740 --> 00:21:21.800 It had dynamic cruise control. 00:21:22.600 --> 00:21:25.580 Dynamic cruise control does not mean active cruise control. 00:21:25.580 --> 00:21:30.480 So what what was the difference between those two terms i'm not sure what was missing i. 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:31.480 Don't know well the. 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.580 Dynamic doesn't i mean is it is it is it like old-fashioned just set the speed 00:21:35.580 --> 00:21:38.280 and that's it because that's not it also it. 00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:43.320 Also had this thing where you could set a you could set it to follow the speed 00:21:43.320 --> 00:21:45.980 limits it does have that ah. 00:21:45.980 --> 00:21:48.080 Okay interesting that. 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:49.220 Is an interesting feature. 00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:54.040 So like it won't stop for the car that's slow in front of you but it'll make 00:21:54.040 --> 00:21:56.760 sure if the speed limit goes from 50 to 40, it'll do it. 00:21:56.860 --> 00:21:58.480 It will slow the car down, yes. 00:21:59.410 --> 00:22:03.070 Which that's interesting, I thought, you know, but yeah, but I won't do that. 00:22:03.170 --> 00:22:09.170 But, you know, but by the way, I do realize, okay, also, which I find is that 00:22:09.170 --> 00:22:11.190 because of traffic, how it is in Florida, 00:22:11.490 --> 00:22:15.810 the thing about slowing down for the cars in front of you many times is quite 00:22:15.810 --> 00:22:19.690 irritating because you get cut off so often here. 00:22:19.690 --> 00:22:26.970 the fucking car I realize now driving both back to back in like a highway that 00:22:26.970 --> 00:22:31.890 you get cut off so often that having the car slow down repeatedly for these 00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:33.850 assholes also can get very annoying, 00:22:35.650 --> 00:22:40.630 so there's pros and cons is what I've realized right now you'd rather hit them? 00:22:41.490 --> 00:22:47.190 I won't rather hit them no but I would rather change I'll see it and I change 00:22:47.190 --> 00:22:51.290 lanes than have the car abruptly, repeatedly slow down. 00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:57.190 See, I am completely of the mind of like, I get in the lane that I know I'm 00:22:57.190 --> 00:22:59.750 going to need to exit as soon as humanly possible. 00:23:00.010 --> 00:23:05.350 I remember, like, I'll do this in my 25-mile commute to work right now. 00:23:05.430 --> 00:23:08.250 Like, as soon as I get on the highway, I know which lane I'm going to need to 00:23:08.250 --> 00:23:13.590 be in 15 miles later, and I get in the proper lane and I just stay in the lane. 00:23:13.770 --> 00:23:17.450 But my most extreme version of this is 00:23:17.450 --> 00:23:22.330 when I used to go home to the washington dc area from pittsburgh when we lived 00:23:22.330 --> 00:23:28.910 there i would get on the highway in pittsburgh and immediately get in the exit 00:23:28.910 --> 00:23:33.650 lane for breezewood and i would stay in that lane for something like it was 00:23:33.650 --> 00:23:37.230 something like 130 miles to breezewood well to be fair if i. 00:23:37.230 --> 00:23:41.390 Remember correctly that i mean unless they've widened that turnpike it's only two lanes. 00:23:41.390 --> 00:23:43.950 No no it was it it was, 00:23:44.900 --> 00:23:49.840 I believe it was more than two. I forget. Like if I had to do it right now. 00:23:49.840 --> 00:23:53.100 I forget which lane. There are large portions of that turnpike that were only two lanes. 00:23:53.340 --> 00:23:53.760 So at the end. 00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:55.120 If you're on a right lane, it's fine. 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.180 Yeah, I remember figuring out it was not the full right lane. 00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:01.780 I don't think it was the full left lane. I think it was a middle lane. 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:03.240 So I think there were at least three. 00:24:03.540 --> 00:24:09.380 But I remember there was a specific lane I could get into immediately after 00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:11.300 getting on the highway in Pittsburgh. 00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:13.400 And you stay there for 130 miles. Okay. 00:24:13.540 --> 00:24:17.540 Yes. Yes. No matter what was going on, slow, fast, whatever, 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.460 you know, I'd be in that lane. 00:24:20.060 --> 00:24:23.760 Well, all right. Well, regardless, look, the car, the car is great regardless. 00:24:23.760 --> 00:24:27.240 Okay. You know, we really like it very much, you know, and so the, but this is one thing. 00:24:27.340 --> 00:24:32.660 So one day I, I have not really needed to use the DC charging. 00:24:33.040 --> 00:24:37.000 Okay. The fast charging. It does come with a package from Electrify America, 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.280 but look, we have a charger here that works very well. 00:24:40.580 --> 00:24:43.560 One time that we left her the weekend that she, she traveled. 00:24:43.560 --> 00:24:46.100 I plugged it in the garage. So it's no big deal. 00:24:46.300 --> 00:24:49.400 So we had a couple of options to charge here at the condo. It's no big deal. 00:24:49.840 --> 00:24:53.780 But I wanted to try it. Okay. Just to see how it worked. Okay. 00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:57.340 All right. That was the whole point of the story. I forgot. Okay. Go ahead. 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.520 Yes. The whole point was that, you know, but I was telling the story because 00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:02.360 I hadn't talked about getting the car in the first place. 00:25:02.460 --> 00:25:08.700 So, so, so I go and I'm like, so we go, I went one day that I took Manu out 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:13.140 in the car and I decided to stop at the turnpike where there are, 00:25:13.360 --> 00:25:15.640 in the turnpike stops in Florida, 00:25:16.060 --> 00:25:21.540 there are both Tesla fast chargers and FPL, Florida Power and Light, 00:25:21.620 --> 00:25:26.600 a local company, has these DC chargers, FPL Evolution, that they have those there. 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:32.220 Right now, because BMW did make a deal with Tesla to be able to use their chargers, 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:36.520 but it's not in place yet, okay? 00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:40.760 It's supposed to happen sometime in the next few months, They're going to mail 00:25:40.760 --> 00:25:43.300 BMW owners of electric cars. 00:25:43.420 --> 00:25:47.140 They're going to mail a Tesla adapter so they can use it. 00:25:47.320 --> 00:25:50.060 It's coming, but it's not set up yet. 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.200 So I was going to try the FBL Evolution chargers there on there. 00:25:54.320 --> 00:25:58.720 So when I get to the stop, there's four chargers. 00:25:58.940 --> 00:26:01.140 Okay. There's one car that's charged. 00:26:01.600 --> 00:26:06.860 First charger I go grab, broke. Something's wrong. Error. Not working. 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:13.260 The next charger over, it says, okay, that one's available, so I move the car to go to that charger. 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.400 The guy over there that's charging tells me I tried to use that charger. It didn't work either. 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.880 I'm like, fuck. Well, let me try this. Okay. 00:26:21.800 --> 00:26:28.240 So I go, and I try it anyway because it says it's working. Got there. Plugged it in. 00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:33.620 No go. It wouldn't handshake. It kept throwing an error. It said that it's session 00:26:33.620 --> 00:26:35.280 starting, but no session starting. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.700 the other charge the charge of neck is broken and then he was using the one 00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:44.740 that was working okay and i was like well we don't really need to charge right 00:26:44.740 --> 00:26:50.040 now so i'm not gonna wait i was just trying to stop to to to try it to see how 00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:52.660 it worked okay i didn't you know that was the only reason, 00:26:53.420 --> 00:26:58.300 so okay fine so let me see what the other options are well since we had the 00:26:58.300 --> 00:27:03.040 the the electrify america free charging, I'm like, okay, let me find, 00:27:03.260 --> 00:27:07.000 they say that there's an Electrify America that's near our house. Okay. 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:13.300 Let me go stop there. Let me give it a try. So we drove up, got to the Electrify 00:27:13.300 --> 00:27:17.080 America, which is at the mall near our house, about three miles away. 00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:22.040 But I got there, all three chargers were in use. 00:27:22.620 --> 00:27:27.940 Okay. There are all three of them. There were like two BMWs and a Honda that 00:27:27.940 --> 00:27:30.980 were there, that were using the chargers, okay? 00:27:31.060 --> 00:27:34.800 Because I also think that Honda also has given away Electrify America. 00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:36.320 But there were only three chargers. 00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:39.820 I'm like, damn it. You know, and they're all busy, okay? They were busy. 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:43.740 Behind it, there was also a charger from EVgo, okay? 00:27:44.220 --> 00:27:49.080 So I go, and I'm like, well, let me try the EVgo charger. It says a fast charger. 00:27:49.520 --> 00:27:51.800 Try the EVgo charger. That one's also broken. 00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:59.570 So I'm like, motherfucker, what the hell? Broke another broken charge. You know, what the hell? 00:28:00.070 --> 00:28:03.370 So I sat there for a little bit and waited. Actually, okay, so I'll wait. 00:28:03.550 --> 00:28:06.110 One of these people has to be almost done with their charging. 00:28:06.730 --> 00:28:10.130 And so they did. In a few minutes, they did. And I was able to plug it in. 00:28:11.150 --> 00:28:16.130 Now, what I didn't realize is that I had set up the free charging from Electrify America. 00:28:16.750 --> 00:28:22.470 But apparently, my wife, because she's the owner, is the only one that can use the free charge. 00:28:22.950 --> 00:28:27.430 I can't, I can't use that account. So when it did it, it connected, 00:28:27.610 --> 00:28:28.690 it handshaked properly, but it 00:28:28.690 --> 00:28:32.890 said, hey, you don't have the Electrify America fee deal. You got to pay. 00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:38.810 I got, whatever, I'll just try it. So I did manage to, to just put the credit 00:28:38.810 --> 00:28:44.610 card, whatever it's, it's, it is, I find Electrify America is expensive relatively considering. 00:28:44.810 --> 00:28:48.390 I did find, you know, because FPL, their charger that worked, 00:28:48.610 --> 00:28:52.550 they're only charging 30 cents per kilowatt hour at the fast charging station. 00:28:52.910 --> 00:28:56.670 Electrify America is $55, which that is expensive. Okay. 00:28:57.550 --> 00:29:01.830 So I did manage to connect to Electrify America one. There's one thing, 00:29:01.910 --> 00:29:03.450 though. Because there were... 00:29:03.450 --> 00:29:03.530 One thing. 00:29:03.550 --> 00:29:08.890 The entire time, there were three cars there. I guess they don't have enough... 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:18.660 electrical infrastructure to get there to have three cars fast charging at full 00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:21.320 speed of the station at the same time. 00:29:21.320 --> 00:29:23.260 Which is about 250. 00:29:23.260 --> 00:29:25.940 KW so i noticed that it had 00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:29.160 dropped the charging rate down to only about 120 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:38.700 kW so it was not as fast as it should be okay but my whole thing is man it took 00:29:38.700 --> 00:29:46.580 me three tries to get a working charger okay you know on my first attempt okay. 00:29:46.580 --> 00:29:47.900 Not exactly. 00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:49.380 Not exactly great. 00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:52.180 I i have yet to like i 00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:55.420 i've plugged into trickle charge at home and but 00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:59.860 otherwise i i've tried the tesla fast charging but i haven't tried anything 00:29:59.860 --> 00:30:04.900 that's not tesla at this okay there's one that's convenient that's sort of like 00:30:04.900 --> 00:30:09.740 if if i go from home to work i pass it it's closer to home than to work but 00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:14.300 i like i pass it and so like if if i i figure, 00:30:15.260 --> 00:30:18.100 if i need if i need to do that i'll stop on 00:30:18.100 --> 00:30:23.660 the way home from work it's convenient i just turn off i it's and and i i just 00:30:23.660 --> 00:30:28.940 wait a few extra minutes before going home the very first time i tried i had 00:30:28.940 --> 00:30:33.840 the experience that you mentioned of like i plug in it says it's working and 00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:35.760 then it like stops almost instantly. 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:36.540 Yeah. 00:30:36.760 --> 00:30:46.640 And then I tried that several times. I ended up, and I could be just completely superstitioning this. 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:47.580 Okay. 00:30:47.780 --> 00:30:53.980 But I recognized a pattern at a certain point. It was... 00:30:55.050 --> 00:31:01.950 spot 3d did not work for me ah so like and there was like one. 00:31:01.950 --> 00:31:03.810 Spot that was just fidgety with your car. 00:31:03.810 --> 00:31:06.870 Apparently so like okay i'm i made 00:31:06.870 --> 00:31:10.250 a point like i have after that spot 00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:13.070 failed for me a couple times i've never parked in that spot again 00:31:13.070 --> 00:31:16.030 and you've had no problems okay and i've had no problems 00:31:16.030 --> 00:31:18.750 well at one point like i i got a 00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.850 little bit more like i had another spot on that side 00:31:21.850 --> 00:31:26.310 like it's a double-sided thing it's got like yeah i don't know 10 10 10 charging 00:31:26.310 --> 00:31:30.790 spots or something five on each side and so now i always go to the other side 00:31:30.790 --> 00:31:39.250 completely but it it's worked and it has no problem so anyway shall we move on we. 00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:39.770 Can move on. 00:31:39.770 --> 00:31:46.110 Okay since that took so long shall i only do one movie instead of two or should 00:31:46.110 --> 00:31:51.890 i just try to power through both let's do one let's do one okay the The next 00:31:51.890 --> 00:31:55.570 movie from my list, which is now, 00:31:55.830 --> 00:31:58.590 just checking, November 21st, 2024, 00:31:59.250 --> 00:32:02.510 was Guarding Tess from 1994. 00:32:03.790 --> 00:32:06.690 Do you have any memory, seen this movie, anything? 00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:07.910 No. 00:32:08.330 --> 00:32:13.470 It's Shirley MacLaine and Nicolas Cage. The... 00:32:16.530 --> 00:32:23.790 As usual, let me read the first couple paragraphs of the description. 00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:30.450 Secret Service agent Doug Chesnick takes pride in his job, performing his duties 00:32:30.450 --> 00:32:31.970 with the utmost professionalism. 00:32:32.090 --> 00:32:35.630 His assignment for the last three years has been a test of his patience. 00:32:36.230 --> 00:32:42.450 Doug is in charge of a team stationed in Ohio to protect Tess Carlyle, 00:32:42.630 --> 00:32:44.990 the widow of a former U.S. president. 00:32:45.530 --> 00:32:50.130 Tess is known for her diplomatic and philanthropic work, but seems to regard 00:32:50.130 --> 00:32:54.290 Doug less as a security officer and more as a domestic servant, 00:32:54.550 --> 00:33:00.750 not unlike her chauffeur Earl or her nurse Frederick Doug's assignment with Tess comes to an end. 00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:04.970 So he's eager to be given a more challenging assignment. Tess decides that she 00:33:04.970 --> 00:33:08.890 wants him to stay and Doug's assignment is extended. 00:33:09.990 --> 00:33:15.210 And then it continues from there. It's the dynamic between this, 00:33:15.530 --> 00:33:22.970 old curmudgeonly first lady and the secret service agent assigned to protect her. 00:33:23.350 --> 00:33:29.450 And there are a number of dynamics between the, you know, the two of these as characters. 00:33:29.650 --> 00:33:33.550 And of course, it's a secret service agent. So at some point there is a threat 00:33:33.550 --> 00:33:36.370 to this woman and what happens then. 00:33:37.330 --> 00:33:40.770 And I'll give it a thumbs up. It was a fun little movie. 00:33:40.930 --> 00:33:43.790 You know, it's not like, you know 00:33:43.790 --> 00:33:46.790 well i always say this isn't going to win any awards but 00:33:46.790 --> 00:33:50.770 let's just check make sure it didn't yeah make sure it did yeah because i i 00:33:50.770 --> 00:33:57.550 don't know it does not look like it won any awards uh it had mixed reviews rotten 00:33:57.550 --> 00:34:03.630 tomatoes gave it 57 percent a weighted score 50 out of 100 from the critics 00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:05.510 mixed or average reviews, 00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:10.530 Washington Post said it was derivative of other recent films like Driving Miss 00:34:10.530 --> 00:34:14.050 Daisy, which I've never seen, The Bodyguard, which I've never seen, 00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:16.650 and In the Line of Fire, which I've never seen. 00:34:17.290 --> 00:34:24.090 I don't think you can compare this damn movie to The Bodyguard and The Line of Fire. 00:34:24.710 --> 00:34:30.110 I'm sorry. I've seen all those movies. By the way, I like this movie. It was funny. Okay? 00:34:31.150 --> 00:34:31.870 Guarding Tess? 00:34:31.950 --> 00:34:34.010 Guarding Tess. It was a funny movie. 00:34:34.030 --> 00:34:35.470 You said you didn't remember. You remember it now? 00:34:35.470 --> 00:34:38.150 I didn't remember, but now I went and started describing it. 00:34:38.250 --> 00:34:40.630 I'm like, now I remember that I did watch this movie. 00:34:40.790 --> 00:34:43.950 And I'm like, yeah, I was mistaken. I'm like, I thought, you know, 00:34:44.350 --> 00:34:47.950 because I heard the year first, like, it's 1954, not 1994. 00:34:48.830 --> 00:34:49.190 94. 00:34:49.530 --> 00:34:54.130 Well, you were breaking up a little bit on my end. So it sounded like 54. 00:34:54.290 --> 00:34:56.170 And I'm like, there's a 90s in 1954? 00:34:56.430 --> 00:34:58.710 Then I realized that I looked in the list. I'm like, oh, no, 00:34:58.790 --> 00:35:02.090 it's 1994. I heard that wrong. This movie was funny. 00:35:02.910 --> 00:35:07.290 Yeah. It was a cute movie. It was sweet in the right places. 00:35:07.510 --> 00:35:09.130 It was funny in the right places. 00:35:09.830 --> 00:35:12.850 I don't know why people, I mean, the people in Revere is giving it a fucking 00:35:12.850 --> 00:35:14.630 hard time. It was a fun movie. 00:35:15.250 --> 00:35:19.230 The dynamic between the primary actors is quite good. 00:35:19.630 --> 00:35:24.250 You know, it was funny. It was cute. I mean, it was enjoyable. 00:35:24.810 --> 00:35:28.390 I mean, yeah, nobody's going to give it an Academy Award. But you know what? 00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:31.470 There's a movie that you go, you watch it, and you're like, yeah, 00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:34.390 you know, that was a fun time. I like this. This is good. 00:35:34.530 --> 00:35:39.510 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I don't have a lot to say about it. Thumbs up. 00:35:39.910 --> 00:35:43.910 You know, pull it up in your favorite streaming. I don't know where it is, 00:35:44.050 --> 00:35:46.830 but it's in, I presume it's available somewhere. 00:35:48.490 --> 00:35:52.470 You know, this is some website and app. 00:35:52.750 --> 00:35:56.450 Just I recommend for folks. If you want to find out stuff like this, 00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:58.570 it's called Just Watch. Okay. 00:35:59.290 --> 00:36:04.550 And you can type in any movie or TV show or whatever, and it'll tell you where 00:36:04.550 --> 00:36:06.110 it's available. So, for instance... 00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:09.570 Well, you know what? Can I just say, the Apple TV... 00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:12.510 does do a good job of telling you where. 00:36:12.510 --> 00:36:16.410 There's some services that don't participate in that, though. But yes. 00:36:16.410 --> 00:36:21.470 But it does do a pretty good job of telling you where the hell the movie is available. 00:36:21.990 --> 00:36:28.910 Right. So this one, for example, does not appear to be available to stream for, 00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:31.670 well, yeah, no, it's not available. 00:36:31.930 --> 00:36:35.310 It is on Prime Video to stream, it looks like. 00:36:35.570 --> 00:36:39.910 So if you have Prime Video, you can stream it for free. 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:44.930 Otherwise, it's available to purchase from Amazon or Apple, you know. 00:36:45.430 --> 00:36:50.010 And speaking of that, I do want to mention one other thing. 00:36:50.350 --> 00:36:54.610 So anyway, thumbs up, guarding tests, you know, go find it. 00:36:55.030 --> 00:37:01.430 But you had been given the assignment to watch Supermeat, the new Supermeat. 00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:09.490 So I will say that as of a couple of days ago, it is now available online. 00:37:10.010 --> 00:37:10.630 It is. 00:37:10.770 --> 00:37:14.790 It is still in the theaters. It is not available for free. 00:37:15.310 --> 00:37:19.750 Also, it looks like you can stream it free on Prime right now, 00:37:19.770 --> 00:37:25.170 but it's available for purchase from both Amazon and Apple as of a couple days ago. 00:37:25.690 --> 00:37:29.630 So anyway, that's according to just one. 00:37:29.650 --> 00:37:31.130 Okay, fine. Well, that simplifies my problem. 00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:36.170 So your assignment has been renewed. 00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:44.350 Okay, I am right now going to put it on my Apple TV watch list, 00:37:44.350 --> 00:37:48.010 so when I go in there, I'll watch it ASAP. 00:37:48.410 --> 00:37:53.710 And then once you have seen it, we can make arrangements with Peter for when 00:37:53.710 --> 00:37:55.510 he wants to come on the show and talk about Superman. 00:37:55.670 --> 00:37:59.090 Okay, here's the TV app. Here we go. Let's take care of this. 00:37:59.090 --> 00:38:01.090 Like right now, let's make sure it's in there. 00:38:02.980 --> 00:38:09.840 Well, I have been, you know, well, I've also have been doing a very good Sam 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.260 impersonation of not sending out these postcards. 00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:17.440 Oh, right. The postcards. Yes. Yeah. 00:38:17.620 --> 00:38:20.440 I've also been doing a very good job of that as well. 00:38:20.720 --> 00:38:23.420 You've been rolling random numbers and it just hasn't come up yet. 00:38:24.240 --> 00:38:28.540 Yeah, basically. Or just, you know, having them here and just forgetting about 00:38:28.540 --> 00:38:33.900 it. Well, in part, I was, to my defense, I did leave on a business trip last 00:38:33.900 --> 00:38:36.400 Sunday. Wasn't even Monday. 00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:41.440 I did not get back until Wednesday night. And on Thursday, we had to take my 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.140 son to a doctor's appointment in the city, which basically ate up the whole day. 00:38:46.820 --> 00:38:51.300 And so I really, about the only real day that I may have had a chance to do 00:38:51.300 --> 00:38:55.520 that was actually yesterday, since last week. So, yeah. 00:38:55.660 --> 00:39:00.700 But I have it here now. Now, I'm going to try to make sure that I complete my 00:39:00.700 --> 00:39:04.360 assigned tasks by next show. 00:39:05.940 --> 00:39:09.000 Okay, so we'll take a break. I will give a preview. 00:39:09.520 --> 00:39:14.700 Next week's movies, assuming I do two, will be King Kong vs. 00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:21.400 Godzilla, the 1962 version, and All About Eve from 1950. 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:26.500 Okay. Those will be the next two movies to be discussed, assuming we're not 00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:28.220 talking about Superman. Okay. 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:34.220 Anyway, time for a breaky break, and then we will talk newsy news. 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:40.040 By the way, I just purchased it on Apple TV just to make sure that I have it. 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.680 There you go. It was like 30 bucks. 00:39:42.700 --> 00:39:43.540 It's 30 bucks, yeah. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:49.940 Yeah. Yeah. So maybe your family who already saw it at the theater will watch it again with you. 00:39:50.120 --> 00:39:50.540 Maybe. 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.860 Probably not. But probably not. 00:39:54.040 --> 00:39:54.620 But probably not. 00:39:57.100 --> 00:40:00.480 Okay. here we go break time, 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.860 Okay, Yvonne, we're back, and it's your turn to pick a newsy topic. 00:41:49.220 --> 00:41:52.360 What's the newsy topic of the day? The first one, eh? 00:41:54.780 --> 00:41:56.900 The Trump-Putin summit. 00:41:57.660 --> 00:41:58.220 Okay. 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.720 How did that go, Sam? Is the war over? 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:07.260 Oh, yes. The war is over. Everything has worked out great. 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.620 The Ukrainians are thrilled and jumping up and down in the streets. 00:42:12.620 --> 00:42:19.440 And there are these enormous sanctions now on Putin. 00:42:19.640 --> 00:42:23.020 And we arrested him when he arrived, right? On the ICC war. 00:42:23.020 --> 00:42:28.200 Oh, yeah, for his war crimes. Yeah, yeah. We arrested him. No, no, not at all. 00:42:28.620 --> 00:42:34.020 So this was the dumbest fucking summit ever. 00:42:34.780 --> 00:42:40.540 Might as well have been like, there was a movie called Canadian Bacon. 00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:42.160 You ever watch that movie? 00:42:42.620 --> 00:42:47.080 I have not watched Canadian bacon. I think I've added it to my list before because 00:42:47.080 --> 00:42:48.380 you mentioned something, but. 00:42:48.580 --> 00:42:52.320 There was a part where the president was flailing, okay? 00:42:52.600 --> 00:42:57.220 And so this was when the Cold War was over, okay? 00:42:57.420 --> 00:43:04.460 So he decided for some reason to have a summit with the Russian premier or whatever. 00:43:04.680 --> 00:43:09.520 And the Russian premier basically came over and laughed at him and said, 00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:11.280 at that point is different. 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.180 It's like, what the fuck you got me here for? You guys already won. 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.400 You know, we don't give a shit about any of this. 00:43:17.160 --> 00:43:20.240 And then they laughed and it was an embarrassment to the president. 00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:22.160 Basically, that's what this was. 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.620 Look, I mean, I don't, 00:43:26.860 --> 00:43:27.760 What the fuck? 00:43:28.520 --> 00:43:33.300 Look, people had talked about this before in terms of, you know, 00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:38.120 even before it happened, Donald Trump was asking for this meeting. 00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:45.520 He invited Putin to the U.S. for the first time in many, many years that he's 00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:48.320 been in the U.S., even longer since there's been a U.S. 00:43:48.580 --> 00:43:52.040 president, Russian leader summit on U.S. 00:43:52.100 --> 00:43:57.180 Soil. Obama didn't invite, I mean, it was during Obama's term. Was Putin in the U.S.? 00:43:57.180 --> 00:44:01.140 The last time Putin was in the U.S. was to give a speech at the U.N., 00:44:01.140 --> 00:44:03.480 and he did not meet the president while he was here for that. 00:44:03.560 --> 00:44:04.340 What year was that? 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.320 I think it was like 18 years ago, something like that. 00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:11.180 Fuck, exactly. It was like, I mean, it was like 18 years ago. 00:44:11.340 --> 00:44:13.320 It was like a long, long time ago. 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:18.920 And I think the last time a Russian leader and U.S. 00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:24.400 president actually met on U.S. soil was probably Gorbachev or something. I could be wrong. 00:44:24.720 --> 00:44:25.840 No, it was Yeltsin. 00:44:26.080 --> 00:44:28.240 Yeltsin? Yeltsin came to the U.S.? Okay. 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:32.180 Yeltsin came to the U.S. Don't you remember that one time that he was laughing? 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.800 I remember the time Gorbachev came to the U.S. 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.880 There was that one time that Yeltsin and Clinton were on stage and I can't remember 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:44.080 what the hell happened and, like, Clinton couldn't stop himself from laughing. 00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:46.340 Hmm. Okay, I don't remember. 00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:47.660 Okay, hold on. 00:44:47.660 --> 00:44:49.340 But I believe you. I believe you. 00:44:50.100 --> 00:44:54.660 Clinton. A laugh attack It was 1999 Let me see Well let me make sure It was 00:44:54.660 --> 00:44:57.720 in the US You know what Hold on, 00:44:59.020 --> 00:45:06.100 uh yeltsin quentin meeting u.s. 00:45:06.100 --> 00:45:14.960 Uh okay list of russia u.s summits yes 1995 so yeah so let 00:45:15.300 --> 00:45:23.040 me let me give the list we had this one that just happened donald trump and putin in Anchorage. 00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:27.860 The one before that was Biden and Putin in Geneva in 2021. 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:28.540 Right. 00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:31.640 Then Trump and Putin in Helsinki in 2018. 00:45:31.660 --> 00:45:33.740 Yeah, that was Helsinki. I remember that. 00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:38.240 Obama and Medvedev in 2010 in Prague. 00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:38.820 Okay. 00:45:39.620 --> 00:45:45.220 George W. Bush and Putin in Bratislava in 2005. 00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:45.840 Okay. 00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:50.480 George W. Bush and Putin in Moscow in 2002. 00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:56.400 George W. Bush and Putin in 2001. I'm going back until I get to the U.S. 00:45:56.620 --> 00:45:59.240 Bill Clinton and Putin in Moscow, 2000. 00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:02.440 Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Istanbul in 1999. 00:46:03.020 --> 00:46:07.140 Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Oslo in 1999. 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.360 Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Auckland, New Zealand in 1999. Bill Clinton and Yeltsin met a lot. 00:46:13.720 --> 00:46:14.100 Yeah, they did. 00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:18.480 Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Cologne, Germany in 1999. 00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:25.380 They liked each other. in Moscow in 1998, Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Birmingham, 00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:32.680 UK in 1998, and here we go, Bill Clinton and Yeltsin in Denver in 1997. 00:46:33.020 --> 00:46:33.780 There you go. 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:39.500 That was the last time there was one in the US. And my God, I'm not even halfway 00:46:39.500 --> 00:46:41.660 through the Bill Clinton-Yeltsin meeting. 00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:42.440 There was a lot. 00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:45.100 There were a lot. There were a lot. 00:46:45.220 --> 00:46:47.660 They genuinely liked each other. 00:46:48.120 --> 00:46:52.300 Yeah. I guess so, yeah. And... 00:46:52.950 --> 00:46:55.130 Anyway, but here's the thing. 00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.070 Ah, the good old days. 00:46:58.970 --> 00:47:05.010 Yes. At any case, Trump was asking for this meeting. 00:47:05.390 --> 00:47:10.770 Trump gave no conditions for this meeting. Trump invited him to the U.S. for this meeting. 00:47:11.590 --> 00:47:16.470 Trump was convinced of his ability to, we can work this out if we just talk in person. 00:47:17.890 --> 00:47:21.650 And like people have pointed out repeatedly over the last few weeks, 00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:25.470 usually when you have high-level meetings between world leaders, 00:47:25.730 --> 00:47:29.650 whatever deal you're going to make is made in advance. 00:47:30.190 --> 00:47:33.350 You have staffers make the deal. 00:47:33.850 --> 00:47:37.410 Maybe the principals come on to push it along here or there, 00:47:37.430 --> 00:47:42.490 but you are working out all the details. You have a document ready. 00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:45.810 The meeting is basically stick it in front of them for them to sign. 00:47:46.590 --> 00:47:51.990 Now, there are exceptions. There are exceptions. There's the famous like Reykjavik thing with Reagan. 00:47:52.150 --> 00:47:53.070 But they didn't make a deal. 00:47:53.770 --> 00:47:56.750 And they didn't make a deal. Right. They came close. 00:47:57.150 --> 00:48:00.390 But, and there's a whole story about that. That's a fun little thing. 00:48:00.450 --> 00:48:01.830 Look it up if you don't know the history. 00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:06.250 But, in any case, so Putin gets there. 00:48:06.450 --> 00:48:11.430 By the way, it reminds me that that thing about deals like that reminds me of like trade shows. 00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:15.090 We have this thing where companies go and like they participate in these trade 00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:16.430 shows and announce these deals. 00:48:17.030 --> 00:48:21.750 And almost, almost almost universally. Those deals have been negotiated, 00:48:21.950 --> 00:48:24.370 have been in negotiation for months and months in advance. 00:48:24.490 --> 00:48:29.190 And it's almost like it's just a formality what's happening at the trade show. Same thing. 00:48:29.310 --> 00:48:34.090 Right. Yeah. Anyway, they get, they both get to the airport. 00:48:35.250 --> 00:48:38.450 First of all, Putin makes Donald wait because they were going to do this thing 00:48:38.450 --> 00:48:42.110 where they get out of the planes at the same time and they come together and blah, blah, blah. 00:48:43.030 --> 00:48:46.930 Putin makes Donald wait. They eventually do their little walking, 00:48:47.150 --> 00:48:49.630 they roll out a red carpet for Putin. 00:48:49.950 --> 00:48:54.910 They come together. Then the first thing is like Donald Trump, 00:48:55.890 --> 00:48:59.310 Donald invites Putin to ride with him on the Beast. 00:48:59.390 --> 00:49:01.010 What the fuck was that? 00:49:02.010 --> 00:49:05.290 Now, apparently, it had all been arranged. They all had their own cars. 00:49:05.290 --> 00:49:08.730 It was all set up. It was going to work that way. That's the normal way you do this. 00:49:10.330 --> 00:49:19.090 Apparently, protocol-wise, it has been extremely rare for foreign leaders of 00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:22.670 any type to ride in the president's limousine. 00:49:22.770 --> 00:49:22.970 Right. 00:49:23.330 --> 00:49:28.610 And when it has happened, it's been close allies. Not like, you know, 00:49:28.670 --> 00:49:30.950 people we have an adversarial relationship with. 00:49:31.590 --> 00:49:36.590 So anyway, so he invites him on and Putin's like, sure. 00:49:37.310 --> 00:49:41.370 And I've heard people speculating afterwards of all, what the hell are they 00:49:41.370 --> 00:49:45.850 going to have to do to like, you know, check this car out from top to bottom? 00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:49.770 You know, because, I mean, Putin probably wasn't expecting this. 00:49:49.870 --> 00:49:52.650 But at the same time, remember, before he was the head. 00:49:52.650 --> 00:49:53.970 He was a KGB agent. 00:49:54.510 --> 00:49:55.030 Yes. 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:56.110 The head of the KGB! 00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:02.870 His entire career has been in intelligence. So, like, if there's anything to 00:50:02.870 --> 00:50:08.350 be— And by the way, people were complaining even that the meeting was at an Air Force base. 00:50:08.450 --> 00:50:12.410 Which then, I was like, what? You know, it surrounded— You just let all these 00:50:12.410 --> 00:50:16.990 fucking Russian military people come into a fucking military base? 00:50:17.410 --> 00:50:21.770 You know, you got all the planes, you got this, you got that. 00:50:21.770 --> 00:50:25.350 But apparently, yeah, they had, I wouldn't say completely free reign, 00:50:25.430 --> 00:50:27.730 but they were able to wander around some in the area. 00:50:27.970 --> 00:50:31.790 You know, they some of the staging areas, they they pulled some of the planes 00:50:31.790 --> 00:50:33.510 up right next to it to show off. 00:50:33.750 --> 00:50:41.750 They had a flyover, you know, of of a few things, you know, because Trump wanted to show off. 00:50:41.910 --> 00:50:44.770 OK, Jesus. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. 00:50:45.150 --> 00:50:51.710 I had never seen a fly, especially in a meeting like that, military doing a fucking flyover. 00:50:54.490 --> 00:50:56.430 I'm like what the fuck. 00:50:57.670 --> 00:51:03.310 Anyway, like, so, you know, Putin was clearly very happy. He was smiling. 00:51:03.650 --> 00:51:06.070 Oh, my God. Putin was, like, beaming. 00:51:07.590 --> 00:51:12.550 There's also a video of, like, Trump while he was waiting for Putin to come 00:51:12.550 --> 00:51:14.970 over, like, looking all excited. 00:51:15.830 --> 00:51:19.490 He looked like a fucking, like, little kid waiting, you know, 00:51:20.230 --> 00:51:23.990 like his father was arriving. 00:51:24.210 --> 00:51:26.210 I don't know. This is, like, nuts. 00:51:26.770 --> 00:51:32.670 People by the way also made fun he was when trump was walking down the red carpet 00:51:32.670 --> 00:51:37.230 this there's like sped up video that shows he was not even close to maintaining 00:51:37.230 --> 00:51:40.070 a straight line sort of weaving back and. 00:51:40.070 --> 00:51:42.670 Forth like i'm like what the fuck is going on. 00:51:42.670 --> 00:51:48.750 Anyway then they had their actual meetings the meetings were cut short they 00:51:48.750 --> 00:51:52.610 were supposed to have a lunch they were supposed to have up to six hours of 00:51:52.610 --> 00:51:53.890 meetings. They were done in two. 00:51:55.590 --> 00:52:01.470 They were going to have a news conference where theoretically there were going to be questions asked. 00:52:01.590 --> 00:52:04.310 Trump likes taking questions. There were no questions. 00:52:04.930 --> 00:52:10.370 Speculation is that was Putin saying no, but just the news conference itself, 00:52:10.530 --> 00:52:16.530 optics, usually the host talks first and frames the conversation. 00:52:16.730 --> 00:52:20.030 Putin talked first at the news conference for several minutes 00:52:20.030 --> 00:52:23.850 ongoing and whatever and they didn't 00:52:23.850 --> 00:52:27.030 say a lot like put putin in 00:52:27.030 --> 00:52:29.890 his initial statement spent a lot of time talking about how 00:52:29.890 --> 00:52:33.030 we're neighbors how we can be friends blah blah blah and of 00:52:33.030 --> 00:52:36.710 course a big part of this by the way is putin 00:52:36.710 --> 00:52:42.570 as they were saying coming in from the cold he has been isolated as a pariah 00:52:42.570 --> 00:52:50.830 since the invasion right ukraine yeah a number of years back and has not been 00:52:50.830 --> 00:52:53.630 having these kinds of meetings with any significant world leader. 00:52:54.410 --> 00:52:57.650 And yeah, I, he, he has met with various people that, 00:52:58.590 --> 00:52:59.210 North Korea. 00:52:59.430 --> 00:53:04.390 Like North Korea and Xi. Like, that's it, basically. China and North Korea. That's it. 00:53:05.010 --> 00:53:07.670 And a number of, like, smaller countries. 00:53:07.850 --> 00:53:11.550 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, well, whatever. I mean, you know, yeah, 00:53:11.570 --> 00:53:15.870 he's meeting Lukashenko or the guy in Kazakhstan, whatever. Yeah. 00:53:16.130 --> 00:53:21.010 Yeah, yeah. But of sort of the major world power countries, he has not been 00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:22.930 meeting them with them because he's out in the cold. 00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:27.570 And they've been very much saying, you are not welcome until this is resolved 00:53:27.570 --> 00:53:34.650 and you whatever and so this was a major success for putin before anything else 00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:39.830 happened just by the fact that he had this meeting at all let's be let's. 00:53:39.830 --> 00:53:48.110 Be clear about how why is this so idiotic also putin on the record has said 00:53:48.110 --> 00:53:53.390 that the greatest catastrophe in russia was the collapse of the Soviet Union. 00:53:53.910 --> 00:53:54.370 Yes. 00:53:54.570 --> 00:53:56.510 It is the loss of... 00:53:56.510 --> 00:53:59.190 Oh, and the one guy, the foreign minister or whatever, had the CCCP sweatshirt. 00:53:59.190 --> 00:54:04.930 Oh, Lavrov wore a fucking CCCP t-shirt, whatever, under his jacket. Yeah. 00:54:05.690 --> 00:54:05.890 Yeah. 00:54:06.190 --> 00:54:11.150 I mean, to bring the, you know, to put the point, you know, bring the point home. Look. 00:54:11.530 --> 00:54:12.010 Yes. 00:54:12.370 --> 00:54:18.250 This was the... And it was, for the most part, because of the collapse of the 00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:22.110 prestige of his country and standing in the world order. 00:54:22.550 --> 00:54:25.570 as the other superpower and them 00:54:25.570 --> 00:54:28.490 just being another country him being brought over here 00:54:28.490 --> 00:54:31.890 like this in this situation to 00:54:31.890 --> 00:54:35.310 negotiate a war that isn't even between the 00:54:35.310 --> 00:54:39.050 the the united states and russia it's against 00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:41.790 you know ukraine which they keep you know 00:54:41.790 --> 00:54:45.110 what they keep framing is is like a client state 00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:50.210 like in the good old days of the cold war this entire and and bringing him over 00:54:50.210 --> 00:54:56.810 here so we can go and tell fuck you know trump fuck you no deal is a massive 00:54:56.810 --> 00:55:03.070 massive massive win for putin at home well and. 00:55:03.070 --> 00:55:07.010 By the way let's get to that in terms of what happened in the actual deal like 00:55:07.010 --> 00:55:11.830 in the press conference you know donald trump when he finally started talking 00:55:11.830 --> 00:55:16.710 like before he started going russia russia russia and going and completely rambling, 00:55:17.570 --> 00:55:20.090 mentioned, you know, we agreed on some things. 00:55:20.210 --> 00:55:23.970 We didn't agree on some other things. I have to go talk to, you know, 00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:27.610 I'll call the Ukrainians later. I'll talk, I'll call the Europeans later. 00:55:27.930 --> 00:55:37.010 But basically there were absolutely no details whatsoever of anything that they 00:55:37.010 --> 00:55:39.030 agreed on, anything they didn't disagree on. 00:55:39.570 --> 00:55:43.870 Donald Trump did say there's no deal till there's a deal. So obviously there was no deal. 00:55:44.030 --> 00:55:48.150 And of course, from the very beginning of this, the Europeans and Ukrainians 00:55:48.150 --> 00:55:52.430 were pissed off because why are you talking about the Ukrainians without the Ukrainians there? 00:55:53.300 --> 00:56:00.300 And, but apparently there was reporting just in the few hours before we started 00:56:00.300 --> 00:56:06.880 recording the show that apparently one of the things that Donald Trump has told the Ukrainians is, 00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:09.280 look, dudes, you're going to have to give up some territory, 00:56:09.300 --> 00:56:13.640 which they've always had as one of their red lines that they're not going to do. 00:56:14.460 --> 00:56:18.360 Now, and just to be clear, there are different levels of this, right? 00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:24.580 There's the, we will have a ceasefire and acknowledge the de facto situation 00:56:24.580 --> 00:56:27.680 on the ground that the Russians are in control of this territory, 00:56:27.680 --> 00:56:30.680 but we will not give up our legal claim. 00:56:30.860 --> 00:56:31.160 Exactly. 00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:35.920 And we will look to resolve this in the future. 00:56:36.120 --> 00:56:39.800 We fully expect to get back this territory in the future. We do not give up 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:44.740 our claim, but we recognize the facts on the ground and we'll agree to a ceasefire 00:56:44.740 --> 00:56:46.680 sort of freezing the front lines. 00:56:46.820 --> 00:56:46.960 Right. 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:51.980 That seems like the reasonable middle ground, honestly. 00:56:52.260 --> 00:56:57.020 Like, you know, I remember Yvonne and I talking the week after the invasion 00:56:57.020 --> 00:57:00.460 happened on this show saying that, frankly, 00:57:00.580 --> 00:57:05.480 that was the likely probable outcome is at some point there would be something 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.280 where de facto Russia would consolidate the territory it had. 00:57:09.720 --> 00:57:14.540 And Ukraine would have to give that up at least for some period of time. 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.680 And oftentimes those situations do become permanent, but in the meantime, 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.240 you maintain the legal fiction and you sort of move on. 00:57:23.460 --> 00:57:29.860 And frankly, I think Zelensky has even said, there's no way we will fully resolve 00:57:29.860 --> 00:57:31.960 this territory while Putin is in power. 00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:37.060 So this is something to be resolved diplomatically, you know, 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.560 years down the road when Russia's under new leadership. 00:57:43.340 --> 00:57:50.120 But we'll see how Ukraine reacts to that, but I'm not thinking well, 00:57:50.500 --> 00:57:56.200 especially since from reports, that kind of let's freeze the front lines but 00:57:56.200 --> 00:57:57.760 not resolve any legal claims. 00:57:58.040 --> 00:58:01.120 Russia hasn't been particularly amenable to that. 00:58:01.540 --> 00:58:06.000 They want to—they've changed their constitution, so legally these parts are 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.000 parts of Russia as far as they're—. 00:58:11.600 --> 00:58:15.920 So we don't have a deal. We don't have anything. And I think you are fundamentally 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.620 right that Putin came to this meeting to tell Donald, fuck you. 00:58:19.820 --> 00:58:19.980 Yep. 00:58:20.560 --> 00:58:21.620 And he did. 00:58:21.940 --> 00:58:27.760 Yep. And be able to show everybody back home, you see, I went over there, 00:58:28.080 --> 00:58:33.080 told him to go fuck themselves, and I'm back here, and he looks weak. 00:58:33.740 --> 00:58:37.700 And he did look weak, and he looked defeated. Like, if you looked at him in 00:58:37.700 --> 00:58:39.720 the press conference, he did not look happy. 00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:44.680 I saw something. about him showing up to a, he had agreed to an interview with 00:58:44.680 --> 00:58:50.360 Hannity later that evening where he started off by basically saying, I don't want to be here. 00:58:50.460 --> 00:58:52.700 Why the hell did I agree to this interview? 00:58:53.260 --> 00:58:55.740 Yes. He said that on camera. Yes. 00:58:56.060 --> 00:59:02.040 I mean, literally, he is at the mouthpiece of his fucking administration. 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.560 And he was like, started out by saying, you didn't want to be there. 00:59:07.020 --> 00:59:10.520 Well, because he expected to come in here and talk about his big success. 00:59:11.380 --> 00:59:13.380 even though he had no plan whatsoever. 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:14.580 But, but... 00:59:16.510 --> 00:59:26.850 But this is a guy who always has managed to spin, to lie flat out about any 00:59:26.850 --> 00:59:30.110 loss being a win. And he couldn't even do that. 00:59:30.810 --> 00:59:36.750 Right. And, you know, there were clips of, like, people on Fox talking about how this did not go well. 00:59:36.990 --> 00:59:42.170 Like, you know, you expect Fox to try to spin it in the best possible way. 00:59:42.170 --> 00:59:45.870 And even the people on Fox were like, yeah, this did not go well. 00:59:45.990 --> 00:59:46.250 No! 00:59:47.570 --> 00:59:54.190 And, you know, look, he ended it early. He hightailed it back to Washington. 00:59:54.790 --> 00:59:59.630 It's clear he got there and found out right away that this is not going anywhere. 00:59:59.770 --> 01:00:01.110 There's nothing to talk about, really. 01:00:01.730 --> 01:00:07.050 Putin is not willing to move and make concessions on anything. 01:00:07.610 --> 01:00:12.130 Like Donald Trump, also some of the reporting coming up to this was like Donald 01:00:12.130 --> 01:00:16.410 Trump was trying to sweeten the deal for Putin with things like offering him 01:00:16.410 --> 01:00:17.770 mineral rights in Alaska. 01:00:18.170 --> 01:00:22.770 What the fuck? Are we out of our fucking minds? 01:00:24.110 --> 01:00:24.890 You know? 01:00:26.070 --> 01:00:32.790 How the hell could one of his aides not tell him if that idea came up to just 01:00:32.790 --> 01:00:35.110 yell at him and say, are you out of your mind? 01:00:36.230 --> 01:00:39.530 And it wasn't even that. It was one of the offers that we were going to make. 01:00:39.750 --> 01:00:44.530 That's what I'm saying. How the hell did anybody tell Trump that that's insane? 01:00:45.530 --> 01:00:48.650 Yes. Well, he didn't offer to sell Alaska back. 01:00:49.550 --> 01:00:52.570 Well, he forgot that Alaska is part of the United States. 01:00:53.230 --> 01:00:55.910 Well, yes, he did do that, too. He said he was meeting him in Russia. 01:00:56.510 --> 01:01:00.990 No, no, no. But not that. After he finished the meeting, he kept saying, 01:01:01.250 --> 01:01:02.830 well, I'm going to go back to the U.S. 01:01:06.730 --> 01:01:07.310 I'm sorry. 01:01:07.470 --> 01:01:09.510 Well, Alaska is not the real U.S. 01:01:11.310 --> 01:01:12.670 Alaska's not the real U.S. 01:01:12.670 --> 01:01:12.990 Right. 01:01:13.150 --> 01:01:13.590 No, come on. 01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:18.610 Yes, I know. Anything that's not the lower 48, I know. Me being from one of 01:01:18.610 --> 01:01:21.230 those places. Yeah, it's like not the real U.S., you know. 01:01:27.340 --> 01:01:32.760 Yeah. And I guess also you had mentioned at the beginning of this conversation, 01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:34.520 are there huge sanctions now? 01:01:34.680 --> 01:01:41.240 Because even within the 24 hours before this meeting, Trump was in interviews 01:01:41.240 --> 01:01:46.320 saying, if we don't get major progress out of this, we're going to take major actions. 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:51.060 Now, he had mentioned sanctions as one possibility, but he'd also had an interview 01:01:51.060 --> 01:01:52.320 like a week or two ago saying, 01:01:52.780 --> 01:01:55.980 yeah, we can do sanctions, but sanctions won't really make a difference because, 01:01:56.100 --> 01:01:59.960 like, we already have sanctions and Russia doesn't do a lot of trade with us 01:01:59.960 --> 01:02:01.640 anyway and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.840 So sanctions probably aren't going to be very effective. They were talking about 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:10.780 secondary sanctions where we would put sanctions on countries that bought oil from Russia. 01:02:11.020 --> 01:02:14.340 Well, like, exactly, like India, which, you know, that was one of the. 01:02:14.340 --> 01:02:17.820 That could be more significant. Of course, we're also— That. 01:02:17.820 --> 01:02:18.400 Would be far. 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.860 More significant. Of course, we're also screwing them with tariffs, 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:24.740 and that's also playing into the game of where we are anyway. 01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:33.120 Right. But Trump had hinted at other actions that weren't purely economic, 01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:34.660 too. He hadn't said anything specifically. 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:41.800 But he kept talking about how there would be severe consequences if Putin did 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:44.040 not move towards at least a ceasefire. 01:02:44.340 --> 01:02:49.820 And he had said coming up to this that he would be really disappointed if we 01:02:49.820 --> 01:02:51.480 didn't come out of this with a ceasefire. 01:02:52.200 --> 01:02:56.880 But he also had been spending like the last week before this, 01:02:57.060 --> 01:03:00.540 well, it was only planned for like a week. It was really quickly set up. 01:03:00.660 --> 01:03:04.480 But he was trying to lower expectations. He was saying, I only feel like there's 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.460 a 25% chance of success here. 01:03:06.900 --> 01:03:10.800 So he was lowering expectations at the same time he was talking about he would 01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.760 be disappointed if it didn't succeed. And he was all over the place with this 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.020 thing and just came in and got rolled. 01:03:18.700 --> 01:03:23.600 You know, I, I, I, your summary is the best I've heard yet. Putin comes, 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:25.580 says, go fuck yourself and leaves. 01:03:26.300 --> 01:03:26.660 Yep. 01:03:27.080 --> 01:03:30.920 And Donald, and Donald Trump sits there and takes it because he has no choice. 01:03:31.060 --> 01:03:31.920 There's nothing else he could do. 01:03:32.100 --> 01:03:33.140 Nothing else he could do. 01:03:33.740 --> 01:03:37.180 Cause you know, he was talking the other day. 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:42.320 Well, the other day, like remember the meeting with Zelensky where he was like, 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.340 you have no cards, guess who has no cards now? 01:03:46.790 --> 01:03:52.850 You know, I, I mean, none that we're willing to use anyway. 01:03:53.150 --> 01:03:56.190 Like, I mean, he could be coming there and say, you know, we're going to pull 01:03:56.190 --> 01:04:01.650 the, put the full might of the U S armed forces into the battle in Ukraine, 01:04:01.650 --> 01:04:03.890 you know, but he's not going to do that. 01:04:04.350 --> 01:04:05.350 Not going to do that. 01:04:05.570 --> 01:04:12.190 You know, we, we, we could probably push the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine. Like if we went all in. 01:04:12.190 --> 01:04:16.470 Listen, well, if we did a air, I mean, listen, if we did say. 01:04:17.030 --> 01:04:20.370 Even just some air action. Of course, the risk of that is like, 01:04:20.490 --> 01:04:23.730 oh, but. No, I mean, you are right. 01:04:23.850 --> 01:04:29.410 I mean, do we I mean, if we went in and we decided to go and like do a aerial 01:04:29.410 --> 01:04:35.970 assault on on Russian on Russian troops on that on that area, 01:04:35.970 --> 01:04:39.210 we could probably decimate like for the most part. 01:04:39.210 --> 01:04:45.610 their ability to engage in meaningful war that would allow the Ukrainians on 01:04:45.610 --> 01:04:49.470 the ground to be able to push them back. But we're not going to do that. 01:04:49.710 --> 01:04:53.350 No, we're not. And by the way, I'm not saying that we should. 01:04:54.530 --> 01:04:56.890 There's a lot of risk in that scenario. 01:04:57.170 --> 01:05:00.570 There is a lot of risk in that scenario. It's why Biden and everybody else had 01:05:00.570 --> 01:05:03.950 avoided it. I mean, you know, there's a lot of risk in that scenario. 01:05:04.490 --> 01:05:08.670 I mean, look, you could send a whole bunch of sorties of B-52s. 01:05:08.670 --> 01:05:13.390 and fucking just start dropping ordnance on top of these guys like non-stop. 01:05:13.830 --> 01:05:19.270 You know, send quite a lot of cruise missiles, Tomahawks, shit. 01:05:19.430 --> 01:05:22.970 I mean, look, man, let me tell you something. 01:05:24.050 --> 01:05:28.590 When we've sent our aerial assault, a full-fledged aerial assault, 01:05:28.670 --> 01:05:31.130 forget about what happens after the war, because in many places, 01:05:31.250 --> 01:05:35.930 we didn't commit enough troops with the Ukrainians that we screwed that up. But our aerial assault, 01:05:36.910 --> 01:05:41.630 In the last 30 years, it's been deployed. When we go say, fuck it, 01:05:41.710 --> 01:05:44.910 we're setting the full assault. It's been quite effective. 01:05:45.110 --> 01:05:49.210 Well, and look, there are possibilities that are even less than that that would make a difference. 01:05:49.370 --> 01:05:54.930 I mean, I've heard people talk about, well, just provide air support to keep, 01:05:55.650 --> 01:05:59.030 you know, to take control of the Ukrainian air. 01:05:59.110 --> 01:06:03.470 The sky. Just take, exactly. To completely just, you know, eliminate the threat 01:06:03.470 --> 01:06:06.770 from anything aerial coming from Russia. 01:06:06.910 --> 01:06:09.630 That would be a huge— Right. 01:06:09.950 --> 01:06:16.690 But the point, though, is that we're not going to do that, and there are good 01:06:16.690 --> 01:06:21.190 reasons to not do that, which severely limits the options. 01:06:21.330 --> 01:06:27.350 And especially since Donald Trump has also, and the Republicans more generally 01:06:27.350 --> 01:06:33.850 at this point, have also said we're not really doing a lot of military support on other things, too. 01:06:33.950 --> 01:06:36.770 We have trickled a few things. like donald trump hasn't stopped 01:06:36.770 --> 01:06:39.990 it completely but we've way cut back 01:06:39.990 --> 01:06:43.390 the europeans are trying to pick up some of the slack but 01:06:43.390 --> 01:06:46.210 basically we are not supporting the ukrainians at 01:06:46.210 --> 01:06:50.610 the same level as we did at the beginning even in even in terms of by the way 01:06:50.610 --> 01:06:58.390 a lot of the support was we will let you buy stuff from us right you know as 01:06:58.390 --> 01:07:03.450 opposed to just flat out here's free stuff and even when there was free stuff, 01:07:04.050 --> 01:07:10.350 we replenished our own stocks as part of that, and it was a good deal for us. 01:07:10.610 --> 01:07:12.690 And we were paying American companies. 01:07:15.590 --> 01:07:19.890 So we've been in a stalemate in this situation for a long time now. 01:07:20.210 --> 01:07:24.070 The front lines have not moved significantly. The Russians have made progress 01:07:24.070 --> 01:07:29.290 the last year, year and a half, two years even, on the front lines, but it's been tiny. 01:07:29.290 --> 01:07:35.910 tiny it's basically been a stalemate for for years now and you know, 01:07:36.690 --> 01:07:40.190 Where do we go? Oh, and I guess the Trump has no cards. 01:07:40.330 --> 01:07:46.830 I just realized the re I said that after I saw the Atlantic has an article specifically 01:07:46.830 --> 01:07:51.610 titled Trump has no cards, which I saw out of the corner of my eye right before I said that. 01:07:51.730 --> 01:07:54.490 So not completely original thought. 01:07:56.350 --> 01:07:59.310 But yeah so what next year i i feel 01:07:59.310 --> 01:08:02.070 like i i posted on both the 01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:04.910 curmudgeon score slack and blue sky that you 01:08:04.910 --> 01:08:08.470 know essentially honestly guys having coming 01:08:08.470 --> 01:08:11.630 out of this with the situation essentially the 01:08:11.630 --> 01:08:14.910 same as we came into it is probably one 01:08:14.910 --> 01:08:18.310 of the best outcomes we could have hoped for out of this because 01:08:18.310 --> 01:08:21.390 there was reporting that trump was basically willing 01:08:21.390 --> 01:08:24.430 to sell out the ukrainians here in all kinds of different ways 01:08:24.430 --> 01:08:27.730 you know the the mineral rights for alaska and 01:08:27.730 --> 01:08:31.450 pressuring ukraine to just give up the territory without 01:08:31.450 --> 01:08:36.830 without a security guarantee or anything and just he was willing to potentially 01:08:36.830 --> 01:08:43.650 take most of what the russians were asking for and even then the russians told 01:08:43.650 --> 01:08:50.130 him to go himself but you know you know and i i say that it's sort of a, 01:08:50.310 --> 01:08:53.250 we're coming out of it the same as we came into it. 01:08:53.370 --> 01:08:59.690 But I've heard a lot of commentary since this summit ended that really we are 01:08:59.690 --> 01:09:06.810 worse off because Putin did humiliate Trump and show how weak Trump was in this situation. 01:09:07.850 --> 01:09:12.010 Well, we are better off in this situation. I 01:09:12.010 --> 01:09:15.250 do think that in terms of also his 01:09:15.250 --> 01:09:19.030 position with his supporters well 01:09:19.030 --> 01:09:21.930 at least for us that want to to fuck you 01:09:21.930 --> 01:09:25.550 know to get rid of this guy as soon as possible that that 01:09:25.550 --> 01:09:28.730 that that that was a positive in 01:09:28.730 --> 01:09:32.050 that respect i mean it's it's 01:09:32.050 --> 01:09:35.530 another showing of what a weak how weak 01:09:35.530 --> 01:09:38.930 he he is in reality because 01:09:38.930 --> 01:09:41.650 all this shit that you know like the 01:09:41.650 --> 01:09:44.390 i know you had a subject don't go into that later we can 01:09:44.390 --> 01:09:49.030 go that next like this this whole thing in dc like right now for example these 01:09:49.030 --> 01:09:56.330 are all these are all the things that an insecure weak man does um that that 01:09:56.330 --> 01:09:59.910 that is what this is i mean by the way this all started by the way with the 01:09:59.910 --> 01:10:04.010 whole epstein thing yes we're still and we're we're still at. 01:10:04.010 --> 01:10:11.070 At the very least, a lot of the conversation over the last 48 hours has shifted. 01:10:11.690 --> 01:10:15.990 And that was his whole goal. That was his primary goal. 01:10:16.170 --> 01:10:18.230 So maybe this really was a success. 01:10:18.970 --> 01:10:24.030 In that sense, yes. In the sense of, you know, 01:10:26.270 --> 01:10:28.030 driving conversation away from that. 01:10:29.480 --> 01:10:34.400 I, and, you know, I, and I honestly, over the last half week or so, 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.900 I started to think in a few places, hey, maybe they've outlasted this. 01:10:39.060 --> 01:10:42.700 The Epstein stuff has slowed down and we're not hearing a lot about it. 01:10:42.700 --> 01:10:45.480 I think here, here is the problem with this Epstein stuff. 01:10:45.780 --> 01:10:49.300 Congress is coming back and they've got hearings scheduled. 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:54.620 Listen, but they, he's managed to make it recede. But the problem is that he 01:10:54.620 --> 01:10:57.520 hasn't managed to make it go away. 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:03.660 And this damn Epstein thing is like, you know, it's like, what the hell was 01:11:03.660 --> 01:11:05.980 that psycho killer that always kept coming back? 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.840 Can't remember one of those movies, but it's just like Jason. Yeah, exactly. 01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:19.000 This Epstein thing is just like that. It doesn't. Yeah, you could make them. 01:11:19.180 --> 01:11:27.040 You're pushing it aside for a little bit. But man, it has a tendency to just fucking not die. 01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:33.460 that's the thing about it. It still continues to just be out there. 01:11:33.700 --> 01:11:37.960 So since we appear to be moving on from the summit, let's go ahead and take 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.980 a break, and then we'll hit all this other stuff. 01:11:41.160 --> 01:11:43.320 You mentioned the National Guard in D.C. 01:11:43.740 --> 01:11:48.440 We've got the whole redistricting mess with Texas and California, 01:11:48.440 --> 01:11:54.160 which then leads us into how Gavin Newsom has been doing and what that whole 01:11:54.160 --> 01:11:56.500 thing looks like. So we will take a break. 01:11:57.580 --> 01:12:03.180 And then we'll come back and we'll talk about all that kind of stuff back after 01:12:03.180 --> 01:12:06.480 this, this, this, this. Why did I say this? 01:12:06.900 --> 01:12:08.480 This. Anyway, here you go. 01:12:58.040 --> 01:13:03.700 Okay, we are back. So you started with the weaknesses that is the National Guard 01:13:03.700 --> 01:13:05.820 in D.C. So let's talk about that a little bit. 01:13:06.620 --> 01:13:16.280 Donald Trump was like, hey, D.C., crime infested, cesspool, horrible mess, 01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.340 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:23.180 We're going to come in. We're going to take over the local police force. 01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:26.400 We're going to bring in the National Guard. We're going to do all this. 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:31.180 and so well they did 01:13:31.180 --> 01:13:34.640 bring in the national guard they tried 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:40.200 to bring in their own they tried to fully take over the dc police force and 01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:46.300 bring in their own new commissioner they they were taken to court for that and 01:13:46.300 --> 01:13:51.700 caved on that almost immediately it didn't even get to the point of the judge 01:13:51.700 --> 01:13:53.620 saying, no, you're wrong. 01:13:53.980 --> 01:13:56.180 They came to a deal. They backed off. 01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:02.480 Apparently, the law in which they were trying to take over the local police, 01:14:03.460 --> 01:14:07.060 what the law actually says, and this is the D.C. 01:14:07.280 --> 01:14:13.360 self-rule law from, I don't know, like 40, 50 years ago, 1980s. 01:14:14.400 --> 01:14:17.420 I was going to say South News, but whatever, back then. 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:18.400 Oh, fuck. 01:14:18.860 --> 01:14:25.580 Anyway, it doesn't matter. But what it says is that the president can request the D.C. 01:14:25.740 --> 01:14:31.440 police's assistance in federal matters as opposed to specifically saying 73. 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:31.980 You're right. 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:34.080 Well, it was the year 73. 01:14:34.460 --> 01:14:34.900 73. 01:14:35.120 --> 01:14:42.620 It's 73. Okay. And but it apparently does not include language to let them just take over. 01:14:42.900 --> 01:14:46.260 Instead, it's you can ask them to help with stuff. 01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:52.240 So they they withdrew what they said about the the taking over completely and 01:14:52.240 --> 01:14:57.960 instead have submitted a request for the DC police to help with immigration stuff, 01:14:58.200 --> 01:15:02.540 which is probably more likely to meet legal muster. 01:15:02.820 --> 01:15:06.440 But in the meantime, they've brought in the National Guard, they're doing other things. 01:15:06.620 --> 01:15:12.520 And so we've got lots and lots of video of these, oh, and not just the National 01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:15.820 Guard, I should say, like the FBI, the DEA, 01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:21.160 all these federal law enforcement agencies have been taken off their normal 01:15:21.160 --> 01:15:26.240 duties and been asked to patrol neighborhoods in D.C. instead. 01:15:27.040 --> 01:15:34.760 And so we've got all these videos of like these federal officers wandering the streets of D.C. 01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:40.580 In some cases, they are blocking off streets and, you know, stopping everybody 01:15:40.580 --> 01:15:44.440 who goes by to question them. There's video... 01:15:45.180 --> 01:15:49.100 Isn't that completely fucking illegal? Seriously. 01:15:49.740 --> 01:15:50.540 I... 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:52.920 It is. 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:56.680 You have to have some kind of suspicion. 01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.400 It could be. I mean, maybe they're setting them up as DUI checkpoints. 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:02.960 I don't know. There are ways to do that kind of stuff. 01:16:03.280 --> 01:16:07.080 I don't know. I'm sure there will be legal challenges left and right. 01:16:07.220 --> 01:16:08.520 There have been protests on the 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:13.740 street of the, you know, locals in the neighborhood yelling at the cops. 01:16:13.740 --> 01:16:15.660 They talked in one group yelling them until they fucking, like, 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:20.660 picked up and left. They basically just made them miserable in one place until 01:16:20.660 --> 01:16:21.620 they just finally gave up. 01:16:21.620 --> 01:16:25.980 And every place they've tried to do those, like, we're stopping everybody on 01:16:25.980 --> 01:16:29.860 this street, from what I can tell, the locals have gone out a couple blocks 01:16:29.860 --> 01:16:35.560 in each direction and just gone with signs and just have been telling everybody, go somewhere else. 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:38.100 Go around. Go around. 01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:40.560 Go around. You know, and so they haven't. 01:16:41.200 --> 01:16:45.800 So you end up with lots and lots of pictures of these guys just sitting around doing nothing. 01:16:46.240 --> 01:16:49.300 There are a few videos of them talking to people on their porches. 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:51.040 Just like California. Same fucking thing. 01:16:51.620 --> 01:16:56.160 Yeah. There was one video of this one group of like FBI agents or something 01:16:56.160 --> 01:17:00.360 who were talking to a group of people on their porch saying, 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:03.180 you know, hey, have you heard about this thing from Donald Trump? 01:17:03.580 --> 01:17:06.320 Like Donald Trump doesn't want you drinking on your porch anymore. 01:17:06.380 --> 01:17:10.280 You know, yeah, he doesn't want it looking like this. 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:12.860 You know, we're going to clean this stuff up. 01:17:14.180 --> 01:17:17.800 I can't drink on my porch. Go fuck themselves. 01:17:18.540 --> 01:17:23.820 Yeah, well, in many places, I'm not sure about D.C., there are laws about open 01:17:23.820 --> 01:17:26.220 alcohol containers in places where they're not allowed. 01:17:26.220 --> 01:17:28.280 Wait, wait, wait. On your porch, that's your private property. 01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:33.320 In some places, that counts as public because you can be seen from the street. 01:17:34.040 --> 01:17:37.860 You can do it in your backyard, but not your front porch, not where you can see it from the street. 01:17:38.660 --> 01:17:41.640 What kind of goddamn Nazi laws are these? 01:17:43.480 --> 01:17:47.700 Anyway, so they were talking to these people, But I've also heard reports that 01:17:47.700 --> 01:17:53.100 almost all of the places where these federal officers are patrolling are like 01:17:53.100 --> 01:17:54.980 the tourist and business places. 01:17:55.640 --> 01:18:00.100 You know, like they're hanging out at the mall by the Washington Monument. 01:18:00.260 --> 01:18:03.400 They're hanging out in Georgetown by all the restaurants and stuff. 01:18:03.700 --> 01:18:08.260 They are not going to the neighborhoods where crime is actually a problem. 01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:13.960 Okay, so let me ask a question. Why do you think that is? Can I say your dose 01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.300 agents and you just got sent to do something you really didn't want to do? 01:18:18.250 --> 01:18:18.950 What are you going to do? 01:18:20.290 --> 01:18:22.970 You go to the nice places and you hang out. 01:18:23.150 --> 01:18:24.990 But you don't have to deal with this shit. 01:18:26.410 --> 01:18:30.770 Now, also, this has been pointed out over and over and over again. 01:18:31.410 --> 01:18:39.170 But just to make sure this is clear to everybody, D.C. is very close to 60-year lows. 01:18:39.390 --> 01:18:40.490 Low in crime! 01:18:41.410 --> 01:18:42.890 It's been on a downward trend. 01:18:43.170 --> 01:18:48.930 I've been robbed of D.C. And I know that D.C. ain't like when I got robbed like 30 years ago. 01:18:50.090 --> 01:18:53.870 Like a number of people have pointed out, like almost everywhere in the country, 01:18:54.070 --> 01:18:56.890 there was a spike during the COVID years. 01:18:57.310 --> 01:19:03.810 Things went back up, but they're now down again and continuing a downward trend 01:19:03.810 --> 01:19:05.970 that we've been on since the 1970s. 01:19:05.970 --> 01:19:09.150 like crime as an 01:19:09.150 --> 01:19:13.470 issue like the the republicans and 01:19:13.470 --> 01:19:16.890 not just the republicans lots of other people to make an 01:19:16.890 --> 01:19:20.530 issue of crime because it's easy because it's 01:19:20.530 --> 01:19:23.470 a you know it 01:19:23.470 --> 01:19:26.150 it let me find this thing i 01:19:26.150 --> 01:19:31.450 shared on the curmudgeon's course slack from george conway had retweeted somebody 01:19:31.450 --> 01:19:37.470 else or not tweet but you know what i mean hold on let me find it i specifically 01:19:37.470 --> 01:19:44.390 set this so that i could easily find it later and talk about this you. 01:19:44.390 --> 01:19:45.950 Did a great job of saving it. 01:19:45.950 --> 01:19:52.890 Yeah i know i i i did awesome okay i found it let me get the screen of screen 01:19:52.890 --> 01:19:57.750 of the the the by the way while you find. 01:19:57.750 --> 01:20:01.550 That just just by the way in terms of crying just overall also Newsom this. 01:20:01.550 --> 01:20:01.750 Week. 01:20:01.770 --> 01:20:04.890 Hit back because of all of this shit where he went and specifically- Oh. 01:20:04.910 --> 01:20:09.290 Yeah. D.C. is not even anywhere close to the biggest problem in the country. 01:20:09.310 --> 01:20:10.310 But we're all red states. 01:20:10.670 --> 01:20:13.870 No, exactly. That was the one thing he called out. He said, listen, 01:20:14.310 --> 01:20:16.730 what the hell are you coming to California when, you know, what, 01:20:16.970 --> 01:20:21.190 for example, Arkansas has doubled the crime rate of California, okay? 01:20:21.910 --> 01:20:25.830 Oklahoma is 41% higher. He was like hitting them with the numbers. 01:20:25.990 --> 01:20:28.970 Like, so why the fuck aren't you going to those cities? What the hell are you coming here? 01:20:29.490 --> 01:20:33.050 The red states, the guys that voted for you, those are the guys that have the 01:20:33.050 --> 01:20:36.630 worst crime problem. It's Mississippi. It's Louisiana. It's Alabama. 01:20:37.650 --> 01:20:39.470 Those are one, two, and three. 01:20:39.990 --> 01:20:44.510 Yeah, this ties into, and even if you start looking city by city, the pattern holds. 01:20:45.150 --> 01:20:45.570 Yes! 01:20:47.250 --> 01:20:52.350 But what people have pointed out, he's targeting L.A., he's targeting D.C., 01:20:52.350 --> 01:20:55.730 and in his speech announcing D.C., he listed a whole bunch of cities. 01:20:55.730 --> 01:21:03.710 The one thing in common for every city he mentioned, high non-white populations are, 01:21:04.820 --> 01:21:11.980 And in almost every case, black mayors, and even more so, black women mayors in most of them. 01:21:12.120 --> 01:21:17.120 One thing that you posted, the White House was posting this stream of people being arrested. 01:21:17.620 --> 01:21:21.420 Hey, Sam, what was the common thread of all the pictures of the people that 01:21:21.420 --> 01:21:27.340 the White House had been posting that had been arrested as the federal government 01:21:27.340 --> 01:21:30.840 tried to take over crime control? What was the consistent theme? 01:21:31.340 --> 01:21:32.540 They were all black people. 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:34.880 They were all black! All of them. 01:21:34.940 --> 01:21:43.980 Now, to be fair, they did arrest that guy who threw a sandwich at an FBI agent or something. 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.900 Yeah, we're charging a guy that threw a sandwich with a felony. 01:21:47.860 --> 01:21:51.740 That has been dismissed, by the way. Like, the judge— Well. 01:21:51.780 --> 01:21:56.020 By the way, they tried two cases like that, took them to grad juries, 01:21:56.140 --> 01:21:58.820 and both grad juries declined to charge. 01:21:59.340 --> 01:22:02.720 Yes. like related to these various protests 01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.900 and people trying to do stuff in the in the sandwich guy's 01:22:05.900 --> 01:22:09.560 case turns out white guy worked 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:16.040 for doj he has been fired from doj over this incident by the way yeah but he 01:22:16.040 --> 01:22:20.340 he was up in the face of this officer i'm not sure if they were fbi or some 01:22:20.340 --> 01:22:27.320 other federal agent but they he he threw his wrapped hoagie from like subway 01:22:27.320 --> 01:22:29.520 it was a subway sandwich from Subway. 01:22:29.740 --> 01:22:34.360 He threw the wrapped sandwich at the guy, hit him in the shoulder. Then he runs away. 01:22:35.790 --> 01:22:42.030 and apparently he actually escaped at that point because he arranged to turn himself in later, 01:22:42.590 --> 01:22:46.030 and i saw someone show video they sent 01:22:46.030 --> 01:22:50.190 like a whole swat team to get him when he turned himself in like he arranged 01:22:50.190 --> 01:22:54.770 to turn himself in he called up he said look it was me i threw the sandwich 01:22:54.770 --> 01:23:00.470 i'm turning myself in here's my address come get me and they sent a whole fucking 01:23:00.470 --> 01:23:03.210 swat team after You know, just pick them up. 01:23:03.310 --> 01:23:11.530 Hey, SWAT team, look, we're going and taking old ladies for immigration issues 01:23:11.530 --> 01:23:16.230 and, like, arresting them like we're arresting, you know, serial killers. 01:23:16.910 --> 01:23:21.590 Yes. And, of course, yeah, like I said, he got in front of a judge and the judge 01:23:21.590 --> 01:23:22.950 is like, you got to be fucking kidding me. 01:23:23.210 --> 01:23:25.390 Get out of here. You know, send him home. 01:23:26.030 --> 01:23:28.510 Yeah. I guess he still lost his job at DOJ. 01:23:28.510 --> 01:23:31.930 But I think he could probably sue and like. 01:23:32.070 --> 01:23:35.250 You know, I'm sure he'll get it. I mean, he's a freaking lawyer. He's going to sue. 01:23:35.470 --> 01:23:38.510 I mean, he should, you know, he should sue and he'll probably get, 01:23:38.690 --> 01:23:42.710 you know, a decent judgment, you know, for that, because I don't even think 01:23:42.710 --> 01:23:45.010 that's a good reason to fire him anyway. 01:23:45.790 --> 01:23:49.890 OK, well, I mean, he was charged with a felony, even though it was dismissed. 01:23:50.070 --> 01:23:51.850 But he wasn't convicted. 01:23:52.630 --> 01:23:58.710 Yes. OK, I found what I was looking for. I saw George Conway repost this on 01:23:58.710 --> 01:24:02.250 Blue Sky, but it's apparently from Heath Mayo. 01:24:02.890 --> 01:24:05.750 And I thought this was a good summary, so I'll read the whole thing. 01:24:06.510 --> 01:24:10.670 And this is probably screenshots from X. I don't know. 01:24:11.190 --> 01:24:18.290 Anyway, he says, this DC stunt by the Trump administration is the only way they know how to do politics. 01:24:18.770 --> 01:24:24.450 They've done it for a decade now, and the Democrats continue to play right into their hands. 01:24:25.380 --> 01:24:32.480 Step one, find a tangible, observable, universally recognized problem that can 01:24:32.480 --> 01:24:35.340 be photographed or recorded and played in news clips. 01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:40.720 Graffiti, theft, broken windows, open air loitering, etc. 01:24:41.160 --> 01:24:46.040 In fact, better if the underlying data paints a different picture, 01:24:46.160 --> 01:24:47.220 like we were talking about. 01:24:47.220 --> 01:24:54.260 So academic types inevitably make nuanced arguments in opposition that the pictures 01:24:54.260 --> 01:24:57.720 and video aren't indicative of the full picture, etc. 01:24:58.700 --> 01:25:05.540 Step two, array an exaggerated, unprecedented, and probably illegal state response 01:25:05.540 --> 01:25:10.480 against the problem that inevitably makes headline news around the country and 01:25:10.480 --> 01:25:11.780 triggers legal challenges. 01:25:11.780 --> 01:25:16.540 You now own the issue and are perceived as the actor. 01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:21.500 At least he's finally doing something, many might say. Right. 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:27.640 Step three, frame all the forces challenging the state response on constitutional 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:33.580 grounds or otherwise as weak on crime and the ones who made the mess in the first place. 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:37.660 Never credit the legal arguments or care about the Constitution. 01:25:37.980 --> 01:25:42.300 This is all about the observable problem on people's screens. 01:25:43.180 --> 01:25:49.600 Step four, pounce when the opposition says this is overreach or fascism or that 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.200 the problem isn't as bad as we're making it seem. 01:25:52.540 --> 01:25:56.800 Continue to paint them as being asleep at the wheel while our cities crumble. 01:25:57.260 --> 01:26:03.000 Punt legality to the courts, and if pressed, just say this is what Trump promised to do. 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:09.940 Step five, ignore the actual results of the state response and whether it was 01:26:09.940 --> 01:26:13.980 successful at stopping the problem. Because, by the way, completely ineffective. 01:26:14.540 --> 01:26:15.620 This stuff does nothing. 01:26:16.300 --> 01:26:19.760 It does not help, and arguably in some cases it can make it worse. 01:26:20.260 --> 01:26:26.360 The result doesn't matter. If we have to demilitarize or never levy a tariff, who cares? 01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.140 The whole point was only to win the PR game. 01:26:30.340 --> 01:26:35.680 And we came away looking like the tough ones, with the institutional swamp arrayed 01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:38.340 against us. The viral videos were endless. 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:42.380 Did you see what Trump said to that one lefty reporter? hilarious. 01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:45.920 Step six, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. 01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:51.760 And then finally, Democrats keep playing right into this stupid playbook and 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:53.240 never make their own plays. 01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:57.920 As a result, Trump is never on the hook for the success or failure of his nonsense 01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:02.600 schemes, and he usually ends up getting credit with voters for at least appearing 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:04.680 to attack these observable problems. 01:27:05.100 --> 01:27:09.540 Meanwhile, the problems get worse, while America's governing leaders engage 01:27:09.540 --> 01:27:12.640 in nothing but kabuki theater. There you go. That's the whole thing. 01:27:14.310 --> 01:27:19.390 I mean, here's the one thing, but here's the one thing in which is why, 01:27:19.630 --> 01:27:25.290 you know, talking about the response, which is why my whole thing about how 01:27:25.290 --> 01:27:36.410 Newsom has changed the game in terms of what an appropriate response to all of this shit is. 01:27:36.410 --> 01:27:46.190 What Newsom is employing right now as the tactics to respond to this is a significant 01:27:46.190 --> 01:27:49.810 change from what the Democrat playbook has been up to now. 01:27:49.810 --> 01:27:54.030 You would tell me one that was like comedic, that was comedic talking about 01:27:54.030 --> 01:27:57.550 Hakeem Jeffries and his response to, 01:27:57.790 --> 01:28:02.430 I think it was the DC takeover, I think it was, or he said something about how 01:28:02.430 --> 01:28:07.250 a strongly worded letter was sent and he was like, yeah, that's appropriate. 01:28:07.250 --> 01:28:10.430 what the fuck people no no this 01:28:10.430 --> 01:28:13.810 this could not be look you got the on 01:28:13.810 --> 01:28:16.890 one hand basically you gotta stop showing 01:28:16.890 --> 01:28:23.150 up to a gunfight with with with you know with basically with just your bare 01:28:23.150 --> 01:28:29.170 hands like right now right not even with a knife it's just showing up with your 01:28:29.170 --> 01:28:34.050 fucking bare hands okay and getting shot in the face you gotta stop just saying please. 01:28:34.050 --> 01:28:35.590 Please please don't do this This. 01:28:35.590 --> 01:28:36.030 Is wrong. 01:28:36.030 --> 01:28:37.250 You should not be doing this. 01:28:37.570 --> 01:28:42.490 Exactly. You got to stop doing that shit. And you've got to ridicule them. 01:28:43.250 --> 01:28:50.210 This week, Fox was forced to repeatedly read the statements that Gavin Newsom 01:28:50.210 --> 01:28:52.590 made ridiculing Trump on TV. 01:28:53.230 --> 01:28:58.870 And I'm going to tell you that that probably backfired in terms of the effect 01:28:58.870 --> 01:29:03.150 on people, in terms of the effect on the audience. It's one of those things 01:29:03.150 --> 01:29:07.270 where you're forcing them to have to react to you. 01:29:07.730 --> 01:29:13.330 I know I'm repetitive on this and I'm going to go back and then we can get back to Newsom. 01:29:13.570 --> 01:29:19.450 But the whole, like, why can't we just mock them thing? 01:29:19.670 --> 01:29:23.370 I mean, we've talked about this on the show for years, but I remember being 01:29:23.370 --> 01:29:28.130 so happy when Walls was doing the goddamn they're weird thing. 01:29:28.130 --> 01:29:34.130 We were finally mocking them and going after this in that way because we have 01:29:34.130 --> 01:29:38.030 seen on a number of occasions that that actually works. 01:29:38.550 --> 01:29:43.310 Painting them as dangerous makes them look strong. Just like what I was talking 01:29:43.310 --> 01:29:45.090 about in the thing I just read. 01:29:45.270 --> 01:29:49.190 It looks like they're doing something. They're taking action. They're strong. 01:29:49.630 --> 01:29:53.490 Look, even their enemies are talking about how dangerous they are. But mocking them. 01:29:53.490 --> 01:29:57.250 Nuslove is painting them as dangerous and mocking them at the same time. 01:29:58.450 --> 01:30:00.930 There are ways to balance it. 01:30:03.270 --> 01:30:10.350 I will go to the end of my days ruining the fact that the consultants who came 01:30:10.350 --> 01:30:16.050 in on the Harris campaign ended up reeling walls in and telling them you can't do that shit anymore, 01:30:16.050 --> 01:30:19.650 which I think has been reported that that's essentially what happened. 01:30:19.930 --> 01:30:23.950 You know, and they pivoted and instead did this other stuff. 01:30:24.610 --> 01:30:29.750 That play ball needs to be thrown in a fire. 01:30:30.130 --> 01:30:35.290 Okay? Because there are two things that I think Newsom has been doing very well. 01:30:35.370 --> 01:30:39.810 And by the way, I have not been a Newsom fan. I did not like Newsom. 01:30:40.310 --> 01:30:45.490 I've been unhappy with him as an option whenever he's been talked about. 01:30:45.990 --> 01:30:51.410 And look, even now, I would rather have someone else. But he is the one who 01:30:51.410 --> 01:30:53.050 right now is doing things right. 01:30:53.570 --> 01:30:57.650 Exactly. No, Sam. But this goes back to the whole thing of like, 01:30:57.750 --> 01:31:00.370 well, I want the better candidate. I want the other candidate. 01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:05.330 But listen, so let's let the fascists win again. 01:31:05.790 --> 01:31:10.650 No, let me tell you something. Nobody else is stepping up to the game. 01:31:11.210 --> 01:31:17.070 What Hakeem Jeffries did this week was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. 01:31:17.550 --> 01:31:22.130 Between not endorsing my money. But I'm done. I'm done. 01:31:22.670 --> 01:31:27.390 Okay. Not endorsing him. Being like a fucking, sounding like an idiot. Okay. 01:31:28.210 --> 01:31:31.890 While doing it. And that shit, I'm like, oh, yeah, we sent a strongly worded 01:31:31.890 --> 01:31:35.870 letter about what's happening in D.C. I'm like, I wanted to punch up that in the face. 01:31:37.930 --> 01:31:42.090 Look, here's the thing. I wish more Democrats were doing this. 01:31:42.230 --> 01:31:49.050 But as long as Newsom is the one doing it, then whatever reservations I have about Newsom, oh, well. 01:31:49.890 --> 01:31:53.270 You know, and, you know, look, we talked about a few others. 01:31:53.570 --> 01:31:56.810 You know, we've talked about AOC a number of times, although she's still a little young. 01:31:56.810 --> 01:31:59.730 and but and she's 01:31:59.730 --> 01:32:03.590 got yeah there are questions about her general appeal newsom also 01:32:03.590 --> 01:32:06.290 has let's be completely honest he's a white 01:32:06.290 --> 01:32:12.410 male as well yes and there's probably five percent of the goddamn country who 01:32:12.410 --> 01:32:16.430 will vote against anybody who's not a white male yeah with before they even 01:32:16.430 --> 01:32:24.750 think about anything else and i you know i remember back in 2016 and again in 2020, 01:32:24.750 --> 01:32:28.070 talking about anything but an old white male. 01:32:28.270 --> 01:32:30.370 Anything but an old white male, please. 01:32:32.990 --> 01:32:37.870 But look, I was saying there are two things. One is the mocking, 01:32:38.030 --> 01:32:40.410 and I think the mocking is really important. 01:32:40.830 --> 01:32:49.070 Two is even if there's a chance it won't succeed, you have to be pushing hard 01:32:49.070 --> 01:32:51.050 and trying to do something. 01:32:51.710 --> 01:32:57.710 So his whole thing about the, you know, we're going to, we're going to redistrict to combat Texas. 01:32:58.830 --> 01:33:02.850 You know, and pushing that hard. You know, there are legal constraints. 01:33:03.070 --> 01:33:06.770 Like, one of the things that's pissed me off about this, they've tried to tout 01:33:06.770 --> 01:33:11.110 as a benefit that, oh, we're going to put this to the people in a referendum, 01:33:11.110 --> 01:33:15.810 not like Texas, where the legislature is going to put it through. They have to. 01:33:16.630 --> 01:33:20.530 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so what? So you oversell it a little bit. Give me a fucking break. 01:33:20.690 --> 01:33:24.050 Okay? All right? That's fine. I know I'm saying, I'm just saying, 01:33:24.670 --> 01:33:28.970 like, believe me, if they could just push it through the legislature, they would. 01:33:29.150 --> 01:33:34.110 The thing is, in Texas, sorry, in California, there was a constitutional amendment 01:33:34.110 --> 01:33:37.590 to do the nonpartisan redistricting commissions. 01:33:37.650 --> 01:33:41.610 And so they basically need a constitutional amendment to undo that first. 01:33:41.850 --> 01:33:49.050 And the process for that is these, you know, referendum votes on the constitutional amendment. 01:33:50.050 --> 01:33:55.330 So, but yeah, but the point is, he's like, what can we do? Let's find something 01:33:55.330 --> 01:33:57.090 we can do and push it hard. 01:33:57.810 --> 01:34:02.110 Maybe it fails in the end, but they're going to try and they're going to push 01:34:02.110 --> 01:34:07.830 it hard, which is the other thing that, you know, even the Texas Democrats that 01:34:07.830 --> 01:34:11.850 we're talking about, they decide, okay, we'll deny him a quorum. 01:34:11.850 --> 01:34:13.810 Oh, my God. Yeah. 01:34:14.030 --> 01:34:17.490 But they denied a quorum for a few weeks and now they're like, 01:34:17.610 --> 01:34:21.430 oh, well, you know, we can't do this forever. 01:34:21.770 --> 01:34:29.410 Well, they haven't caved yet, but the plan that they came up with to, 01:34:29.410 --> 01:34:35.710 oh, yeah, we'll come back was basically was, I mean, 01:34:35.930 --> 01:34:40.990 make Trump look strong against Putin. 01:34:40.990 --> 01:34:43.350 I mean, oh, my God. 01:34:43.650 --> 01:34:49.610 Oh, yeah. We're going to go back if they promise that they're going to let us vote on something. 01:34:49.890 --> 01:34:52.850 I was actually wrong about this. 01:34:53.150 --> 01:34:58.790 Like what they were waiting for was they actually are waiting for California. 01:34:59.410 --> 01:35:02.130 No, but I heard that I heard it was both conditions. 01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:07.200 But what I read was that what I read, it was both conditions. 01:35:07.420 --> 01:35:11.080 A, that California got, you know, was going to do their thing. 01:35:11.360 --> 01:35:16.420 And B, that the but but that that that that that they in Texas, 01:35:16.620 --> 01:35:18.900 that they would vote on their plan that would fail. 01:35:19.320 --> 01:35:23.740 But here's my problem with that, Sam. It's once again, this is showing up, 01:35:23.860 --> 01:35:26.700 you know, to a gunfight with squirt guns. 01:35:26.900 --> 01:35:31.500 OK, look, it's like I'm sorry. Even if California does their thing, 01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:33.660 they still shouldn't cave anyway. 01:35:34.220 --> 01:35:34.560 Right. 01:35:34.780 --> 01:35:35.820 That's the reality. 01:35:36.460 --> 01:35:40.380 And by the way, that's the one thing that like, I understand why, 01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.540 because like, look, the Democratic Party has for a long time, 01:35:43.780 --> 01:35:46.620 like, look, there are a lot of Democratic gerrymandered states, too. 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:52.160 Although I saw a map that showed, you know, the most gerrymandered on the Democratic 01:35:52.160 --> 01:35:56.700 side and the most gerrymandered on the Republican side. Republicans have been better at this lately. 01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:57.200 Yes. 01:35:57.200 --> 01:36:02.380 But having said that, the Democratic tendency over the last decade, 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:08.200 maybe 15 years, has been really pushing hard for these nonpartisan commissions. 01:36:09.280 --> 01:36:13.440 Like that's been the Democratic position. And even the states where Democrats 01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:18.440 have gerrymandered in their advantage are kind of ashamed of that. 01:36:18.460 --> 01:36:22.300 And there's movements to try to get them to go nonpartisan as well. 01:36:22.300 --> 01:36:28.160 The counter argument to that is we can't just do this in democratic states or 01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:32.000 they're going to walk all over us, which is exactly what's been happening. 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:34.660 And so and by the way, the Democrats. 01:36:35.200 --> 01:36:39.280 It's this thing about going, oh, let's go and let's let's do this fair again 01:36:39.280 --> 01:36:44.080 when you're fighting somebody who doesn't care about the rules. 01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:51.140 They don't care about the rules on anything. You can't keep trying to battle 01:36:51.140 --> 01:36:57.740 these people by following a rulebook that the other guys are not even looking at or care about. 01:36:59.110 --> 01:37:03.450 Well, look, the thing is, look, Democrats have been pushing these nonpartisan 01:37:03.450 --> 01:37:06.990 commissions at the state level. They pushed it hard on the national level. 01:37:07.170 --> 01:37:12.550 If you remember last time the Democrats were in charge, one of the big headline 01:37:12.550 --> 01:37:16.850 bills they tried to get passed, but was killed by Manchin and Sinema, 01:37:17.010 --> 01:37:20.950 was a national voting rights bill 01:37:20.950 --> 01:37:27.370 that included nonpartisan redistricting across the country. It failed. 01:37:28.190 --> 01:37:33.050 But I think Democrats have come around now that said, okay, it has to be national. 01:37:33.290 --> 01:37:35.050 You can't do this state by state. 01:37:35.930 --> 01:37:40.790 Because that puts any states that are doing it fair at a disadvantage. 01:37:41.270 --> 01:37:47.630 And if they're doing maximal redistricting, we have to too. 01:37:48.470 --> 01:37:53.870 Now, one of the problems with this combat is the Democrats have put nonpartisan 01:37:53.870 --> 01:37:59.350 redistricting in so many states that it's actually really hard to do this. 01:37:59.710 --> 01:37:59.810 Right. 01:38:00.010 --> 01:38:04.750 The number of places they can do this is limited. And most of the places where 01:38:04.750 --> 01:38:09.390 they can do this, with the exception of California, have already gerrymandered 01:38:09.390 --> 01:38:10.490 in the Democrats' favor. 01:38:10.650 --> 01:38:13.050 Right. So, for instance, people bring up Illinois. 01:38:13.730 --> 01:38:18.970 Illinois is already almost maximally gerrymandered in the Democrats' favor. 01:38:19.130 --> 01:38:20.810 They can't squeeze much more out of that. 01:38:21.470 --> 01:38:26.850 New York could squeeze a few more seats out of New York, but New York has the 01:38:26.850 --> 01:38:31.370 nonpartisan redistricting in place, and they have procedures in place for if 01:38:31.370 --> 01:38:32.790 they want to get rid of that, 01:38:32.950 --> 01:38:38.290 they have to follow a long procedure that means they can't do it till 2028. 01:38:38.290 --> 01:38:42.750 They can't do it in time for 2026. California happens to have a way where they 01:38:42.750 --> 01:38:46.410 could change that in time for 2026, barely, 01:38:47.460 --> 01:38:50.800 But a lot of other states just couldn't even if they wanted to because of the 01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:53.900 way it's set up. It just would take too long. 01:38:54.260 --> 01:38:56.860 I mean, frankly, they should probably start anyway. 01:38:57.160 --> 01:39:01.760 Right. They should start anyway. But that's my point, Sam. You've got to go. 01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.080 You can't, you know, you have to right now. 01:39:06.540 --> 01:39:11.720 You have to go all in even on those states where you can't do it like right away. 01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:16.120 Because this fight with them is not going to be over like in two years or three 01:39:16.120 --> 01:39:18.640 years. This isn't over anytime soon. 01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:23.200 This isn't, you know, you have to plan for the fact that you're going to have 01:39:23.200 --> 01:39:24.920 to keep fighting this for years afterwards. 01:39:25.100 --> 01:39:28.380 And if you have to go back to those states where we did this and we have to 01:39:28.380 --> 01:39:31.680 undo that, okay, like right now, we have to start that process. 01:39:31.940 --> 01:39:34.940 Because this is the thing. 01:39:35.260 --> 01:39:39.900 Forget about fairness, okay? It's not what I'm talking about right now. 01:39:40.240 --> 01:39:43.300 Forget about trying to create fair rules. 01:39:43.300 --> 01:39:50.260 When you're battling with an opponent that doesn't give a shit about the rules, 01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:56.120 what you have to focus on are the tactics that are going to defend your principles, 01:39:56.120 --> 01:40:00.160 even though they may not be entirely fair, okay, 01:40:00.540 --> 01:40:06.020 in the way that, you know, even though they aren't fair, because your opponent isn't fighting fair. 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:14.340 They aren't fighting fair. You can't play that way until the landscape changes. 01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:18.480 If they want to come back later and we want to agree on a fair set of rules, fine. 01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:23.020 But until they don't agree to them, you have to go and say, fuck this. 01:40:23.200 --> 01:40:30.060 We are going to go maximum battle front right now across the board. 01:40:30.220 --> 01:40:34.820 And that's what the Democratic leadership and these fucking guys don't get. 01:40:34.820 --> 01:40:38.380 It has nothing to do with age, has nothing to do with that. 01:40:38.620 --> 01:40:44.020 It has to do with people. Either you're in a war footing right now, 01:40:44.040 --> 01:40:47.220 or you're not, you can't be there. 01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:50.360 That's what we need, period. 01:40:50.860 --> 01:40:50.960 Right. 01:40:51.950 --> 01:40:58.590 There is still so much attitude of we have to get back to normal. 01:40:59.690 --> 01:41:05.750 We want to work with our Republican colleagues and work on bipartisan stuff and blah. 01:41:05.750 --> 01:41:05.970 Blah, blah. 01:41:06.130 --> 01:41:10.430 No. Normal is not good. We learned this from Biden. 01:41:10.770 --> 01:41:11.230 Yes. 01:41:11.230 --> 01:41:12.470 Like the Biden administration. 01:41:12.690 --> 01:41:15.210 Biden's whole concentration. It failed already. 01:41:15.770 --> 01:41:19.430 Yes, exactly. like 01:41:19.430 --> 01:41:22.650 look and i remember saying this the moment 01:41:22.650 --> 01:41:28.030 the biden administration started and they had the trifecta as weak as it was 01:41:28.030 --> 01:41:32.290 with mansion and cinema they had a trifecta for a while i'm like you should 01:41:32.290 --> 01:41:36.570 be cranking out new states you should be reforming the supreme court yeah you 01:41:36.570 --> 01:41:39.550 should be doing this you should be doing that and they could whatever. 01:41:39.550 --> 01:41:40.670 The fuck anything. 01:41:40.670 --> 01:41:46.130 And they didn't have the support in the senate to get that done but importantly 01:41:46.130 --> 01:41:49.990 also they didn't have the support of Joe Biden to go nuclear-like. 01:41:50.090 --> 01:41:53.690 Listen, if Biden had decided it, we had to go over to those two, 01:41:53.890 --> 01:41:57.630 you know, to Manchin or whatever and basically offer him, let me make you a 01:41:57.630 --> 01:41:58.930 fucking deal you can't refuse. 01:41:59.150 --> 01:42:04.150 Whatever the fuck that deal was. I don't care if we're buying cinema handbags at this fucking point. 01:42:04.750 --> 01:42:07.290 More for her collection. I don't give a fuck. 01:42:07.390 --> 01:42:07.510 Right. 01:42:08.590 --> 01:42:12.290 You know, so, yeah, we should have been doing that now. 01:42:12.510 --> 01:42:16.310 If we get power again, we have to do it then. We need people who are willing to fight. 01:42:16.470 --> 01:42:22.610 And by the way, acknowledging there are long-term problems with this approach. 01:42:23.030 --> 01:42:27.950 If you have every state gerrymandered to the limit for whatever, 01:42:28.490 --> 01:42:35.590 you know, we are making, we are essentially solidifying the regional divisions of the country. 01:42:35.730 --> 01:42:38.530 You really are making red states and blue states and all this kind of stuff. 01:42:38.530 --> 01:42:41.370 Going back to the same fucking Democratic argument why we're not doing it, 01:42:41.470 --> 01:42:44.670 here's a fucking problem. The problem is that, yeah. 01:42:44.810 --> 01:42:48.710 Well, this is what I was going to say. This is short-term versus long-term. 01:42:49.190 --> 01:42:51.750 Exactly. Long-term. But not long-term. 01:42:51.970 --> 01:42:53.290 We're not going to have a long-term. 01:42:54.050 --> 01:42:59.370 Exactly. We don't have. What long-term? We don't have a long-term to talk about right now. 01:42:59.630 --> 01:43:02.410 Right now, the long-term is based on this shit and we're fucked. 01:43:03.130 --> 01:43:06.550 You can fix those issues later. like let's 01:43:06.550 --> 01:43:09.730 say you know you you you you get the 01:43:09.730 --> 01:43:13.350 democrats back in power okay now you can do national redistricting 01:43:13.350 --> 01:43:18.390 reform exactly and make it fair again or whatever but even then i think you 01:43:18.390 --> 01:43:21.770 should add more states you should do all because fundamentally we this country 01:43:21.770 --> 01:43:26.970 has a lot of problems based on the basic structure of like the senate exists 01:43:26.970 --> 01:43:30.870 we've we've got the electoral college exists. 01:43:31.130 --> 01:43:35.650 We fundamentally distort things based on that. 01:43:35.950 --> 01:43:40.750 Even the way we do single member districts itself maybe should be reviewed. 01:43:41.530 --> 01:43:45.890 But, you know, whatever. Like, you can deal with the long-term stuff long-term. 01:43:46.130 --> 01:43:48.890 Right now, I 100% agree with you. 01:43:49.330 --> 01:43:55.410 It's a war. It's a battle. This should not be about—it really has to be about winners and losers. 01:43:55.770 --> 01:44:00.750 I'm sorry. It is not about coming to a nice new national consensus. 01:44:00.990 --> 01:44:04.970 Yeah, and you know who the fucking losers need to be? People like Charlie Kirk, 01:44:05.210 --> 01:44:08.930 people like Sean Hannity, people like Donald Trump. 01:44:09.870 --> 01:44:17.630 And all his fucking kids, those need to be losers. The fucking Nazis need to be losers. 01:44:18.330 --> 01:44:20.330 They need to lose. 01:44:20.910 --> 01:44:28.350 Yes. And by the way, like, I still believe, like, the core group that's problematic, 01:44:28.690 --> 01:44:32.950 even though Donald Trump won with just barely, 01:44:33.290 --> 01:44:36.130 you know, he didn't even get 50%. 01:44:36.130 --> 01:44:38.830 Even though Donald Trump won, he got more votes. 01:44:39.010 --> 01:44:44.110 Yeah. The group that's the core problem, let's go back to Hillary Clinton's 01:44:44.110 --> 01:44:46.850 deplorables, right? It's like a third of the Republicans. 01:44:47.170 --> 01:44:47.490 Exactly. 01:44:48.270 --> 01:44:53.770 You know, those are the ones that, yes, they have to lose and they have to be crushed utterly. 01:44:54.050 --> 01:45:01.130 So the rest of the Republicans can rejoin the fold of like reasonable people, you know? 01:45:02.610 --> 01:45:05.950 And not, but- Not both. 01:45:06.050 --> 01:45:11.890 You have, we know that, In the cloakrooms and the backrooms, 01:45:12.150 --> 01:45:17.270 a lot of those motherfucking Republicans in the House and Senate are voting 01:45:17.270 --> 01:45:20.290 because they're basically scared of their constituents right now. 01:45:20.690 --> 01:45:21.210 Yes. 01:45:21.410 --> 01:45:26.470 Like that guy that went to the CDC and fired 150 shots at the fucking windows at the goddamn CDC. 01:45:27.370 --> 01:45:34.290 Those are the people these people are scared of. They're literally afraid. And voting as such. 01:45:35.370 --> 01:45:38.130 A significant fraction. There are true believers there, too. 01:45:38.230 --> 01:45:44.490 Oh, no, they're true believers. There's a huge contingent of them that are just like that right now. 01:45:45.690 --> 01:45:51.310 And look, we're in a dangerous place. And back to Newsom, the thing is, 01:45:51.450 --> 01:45:56.870 he's acting like he recognizes the gravity of this. 01:45:57.270 --> 01:46:03.250 And a lot of these other folks are not. Like, okay, AOC is, you can argue about 01:46:03.250 --> 01:46:10.430 Pritzker, you can argue about, you know, a few others have been communicating effectively. 01:46:10.770 --> 01:46:14.970 But over the last month, Newsom has been the one who's been being effective. 01:46:15.350 --> 01:46:19.990 He's gotten in the news, he's getting his message across, he's getting attention 01:46:19.990 --> 01:46:21.390 because of the way he's doing it. 01:46:21.550 --> 01:46:24.770 I mean, he's imitating goddamn Trump's tweet style. 01:46:24.990 --> 01:46:26.110 He's mocking it, basically. 01:46:26.110 --> 01:46:30.990 Well, he's mocking it. And people asked him, do you think this is appropriate, 01:46:30.990 --> 01:46:33.330 what you're doing? And he's like, have you asked him? 01:46:33.850 --> 01:46:39.130 Exactly. That's the shit. This is the shit where we don't play the game the same for either. 01:46:39.350 --> 01:46:42.650 You know, we get that question. Why the fuck aren't you saying that to Trump 01:46:42.650 --> 01:46:45.510 every fucking day, every time he writes something, says something? 01:46:45.970 --> 01:46:53.030 It goes online. I mean, isn't he the one that reshared a picture of throwing 01:46:53.030 --> 01:46:57.230 a fucking dildo into a WNBA court? 01:46:57.530 --> 01:47:01.790 I mean, I'm sorry. You want to talk about inappropriate? What the fuck are we doing? 01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:10.020 People like, oh, that's just Trump. That's how he is. That's not news anymore, you know? 01:47:10.300 --> 01:47:18.500 And that's fundamentally like one of the great weaknesses of the way media works and frankly, 01:47:18.700 --> 01:47:21.700 the way human attention works is how 01:47:21.700 --> 01:47:24.760 quickly we no longer pay attention 01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:27.440 to the thing as long 01:47:27.440 --> 01:47:31.540 as it's the same you know yeah donald. 01:47:31.540 --> 01:47:36.400 Trump does this crazy stuff but he's done this crazy stuff for forever right 01:47:36.400 --> 01:47:45.100 so yeah yeah he does illegal stuff even oh well doesn't matter nothing ever 01:47:45.100 --> 01:47:49.260 you know it is whatever you know people keep talking about legal. 01:47:49.260 --> 01:47:52.980 Thing it's all you know it's just donald being donald like he's. 01:47:52.980 --> 01:47:53.680 Building this fucking. 01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:55.120 Ballroom by the way which is illegal. 01:47:55.700 --> 01:48:01.920 Yes. And we also have the just the split media ecosystem as well. 01:48:02.060 --> 01:48:06.160 Like, you know, as we hear more and more of these, like, you know, 01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:11.260 on the curmudgeon's core slack, we we keep joking about giving these people 01:48:11.260 --> 01:48:15.120 what is it a bag of dicks or whatever we are out of bags of dicks to give them. 01:48:15.220 --> 01:48:19.600 Yeah. Yeah. Pete is the is the original bag of dicks distributor. 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:22.320 But, you know, for people regretting 01:48:22.320 --> 01:48:25.320 their Trump vote because now they're negative consequences to them. 01:48:25.660 --> 01:48:31.640 OK. And one of the themes I've seen from these are are people saying, 01:48:31.900 --> 01:48:37.880 you know, they had no idea or, well, they had heard that, but they didn't believe it. Right. 01:48:38.040 --> 01:48:41.020 And part of that is like if, you know. 01:48:41.990 --> 01:48:48.270 If CNN said it or Harris said it, they don't believe it. It doesn't matter what it is. 01:48:48.530 --> 01:48:51.610 Like, they're not going to believe that thing is true. 01:48:51.990 --> 01:48:54.930 Like, even on the Epstein stuff, some of these people are like, 01:48:55.030 --> 01:48:57.850 well, we had no idea Donald Trump was involved in Epstein. 01:48:58.170 --> 01:49:01.530 And we've talked before. Some of them have the excuse that they were really 01:49:01.530 --> 01:49:08.250 young in 2015, 2016 when it was discussed before or in the years since. 01:49:08.250 --> 01:49:13.890 but many of them are old enough to have been there and may have heard it but 01:49:13.890 --> 01:49:15.350 dismissed it immediately as 01:49:15.350 --> 01:49:21.130 liberal propaganda you know of course that's false they didn't believe it, 01:49:22.290 --> 01:49:28.530 until like laura loomer and people like that were asking questions right you 01:49:28.530 --> 01:49:32.550 know or i don't know if laura loomer is one of them but you know a variety of conservatives one. 01:49:32.550 --> 01:49:33.130 Of them yes. 01:49:33.130 --> 01:49:41.170 Yeah so yeah and so as long as we have that thing where there's an insulation 01:49:41.170 --> 01:49:43.110 against facts simply because, 01:49:43.910 --> 01:49:49.530 if they say it it must be false and look i admit if if donald trump says something 01:49:49.530 --> 01:49:53.870 my default going in position is of course he's lying yeah but you know what you and. 01:49:53.870 --> 01:49:56.630 Me will go and like try to figure out is that true. 01:49:56.630 --> 01:49:58.970 Right that's. 01:49:58.970 --> 01:50:03.550 The reality i mean i'm like you know i get something from some source that I don't understand. 01:50:03.730 --> 01:50:07.210 I don't go by just, ah, it's fake news. I'm like, is that true? 01:50:08.070 --> 01:50:09.930 I'm like, let me double check. Is that true? 01:50:10.860 --> 01:50:14.340 No, these people know. They just hear it from somebody. Ah, it's fake news. That's it. 01:50:14.500 --> 01:50:18.660 Well, and in many cases, this also gets into the simple truth, 01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:22.900 the simple statement versus the subtle truth as well, right? 01:50:23.200 --> 01:50:27.700 Like maybe that statement is true, but it has to be understood in a larger context 01:50:27.700 --> 01:50:30.420 for you to really understand what's going on or whatever. 01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:37.400 And, oh, it's complicated. It's not like this or that. It's like some in-between 01:50:37.400 --> 01:50:40.200 like, oh, well, sometimes yes, sometimes no. 01:50:40.620 --> 01:50:46.620 It's complicated. Because in almost all situations, the real answer is it's complicated. 01:50:47.140 --> 01:50:50.640 And to really understand what's going on, you have to dive in and you have to 01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:52.080 think about it and you have to understand. 01:50:52.220 --> 01:50:55.140 And there are all kinds of subtleties and there are all kinds of trade-offs. 01:50:55.220 --> 01:50:58.760 And it's not just clearly one thing's right, one thing's wrong. 01:50:58.900 --> 01:51:04.760 And, you know, that makes it tough. And like, you know, and some people don't 01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:07.080 want to do that. Some people are incapable of that. 01:51:07.300 --> 01:51:11.080 Some people just don't have time for that. They've got lives. 01:51:11.700 --> 01:51:17.420 We don't have lives. We just spent all day digging into this crap. 01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:20.660 But like, that's, that's unusual. 01:51:21.160 --> 01:51:24.000 Listen, my wife the other day were just discussing this. 01:51:24.100 --> 01:51:27.760 And I know we've, we've touched this on before, but I was just counting the 01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:30.580 other day to just the sheer volume of shit that I read every day. 01:51:30.580 --> 01:51:32.460 Because, look, one thing, I read very fast. 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:39.980 I read extremely fast, okay? Look, I mean, I read at a pace that I know is faster than most. 01:51:40.200 --> 01:51:48.940 But what that means is on an ordinary day, I will for sure go over and read over 100 news articles. 01:51:49.240 --> 01:51:52.720 And I don't, and what I'm saying reading, I mean reading. 01:51:53.220 --> 01:51:54.300 Not just the headline. 01:51:54.460 --> 01:51:57.500 Not just the headline. Literally reading the whole fucking thing, 01:51:57.900 --> 01:51:59.560 okay? But that's not normal. 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:06.900 You're ahead of me like I keep track of lots of things but I mostly skim the 01:52:06.900 --> 01:52:11.100 surface I will fully read a handful of articles every day but not, 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:12.960 100, you know. 01:52:13.640 --> 01:52:20.300 Yeah. No, but it's crazy. I mean, you know, but yeah, so we keep up to date 01:52:20.300 --> 01:52:24.480 on what the fuck is going on, you know, on a regular basis. 01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.600 But most people cannot deal with that information overload. 01:52:27.980 --> 01:52:30.780 Fuck, I mean, they can't deal with the information overload from work. 01:52:31.100 --> 01:52:36.200 The hell, you know, it would reap that much when that much shit is being distributed out there. 01:52:36.320 --> 01:52:38.500 It's crazy. So anyway. 01:52:38.740 --> 01:52:42.000 I have been, and we need to close up, but I was just going to say it was one other thing. 01:52:42.160 --> 01:52:45.840 I've talked to people occasionally at work, you know, and I mentioned, 01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:49.020 you know, I do, you know, election graphs. I do the podcast. 01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:53.160 I do stuff like that and comes up and it's like, oh, like I, 01:52:53.180 --> 01:52:56.600 I never pay attention to politics. I have no idea what's going on. 01:52:56.740 --> 01:52:58.560 How does that stuff work again? I don't know. 01:52:58.860 --> 01:53:03.160 Like, you know, I met, I mentioned that my wife's a state rep and they're like, what's a state rep? 01:53:03.340 --> 01:53:07.600 You know, how did, what do they do? You know, this 01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:12.540 kind of stuff and these are from people who are you know working at educated 01:53:12.540 --> 01:53:18.100 working at a high a high paying tech job you're clearly an intelligent person 01:53:18.100 --> 01:53:25.240 but this just is not something that they focus on or spend time on and so they don't know they. 01:53:25.240 --> 01:53:27.720 Don't know they don't know they have no idea. 01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:29.320 So anyway, 01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:35.040 let's close it up. You know the deal, curmudgeon-corner.com. 01:53:35.200 --> 01:53:40.140 Go there and find all our stuff. You got our archives, you got transcripts, 01:53:40.220 --> 01:53:42.140 you got all the ways to contact us. 01:53:42.480 --> 01:53:43.760 And importantly, you've got a 01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:48.100 link to our Patreon. 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Importantly, at $2 a month or more, or if you just ask us, 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.460 we will invite you to the Commudgence Corner Slack where Yvonne and I and a 01:54:09.460 --> 01:54:13.280 bunch of listeners are chatting throughout the entire week, 01:54:13.700 --> 01:54:18.360 sharing interesting news articles, both about politics and all kinds of other 01:54:18.360 --> 01:54:21.620 topics, and just chatting about stuff. 01:54:22.260 --> 01:54:27.160 So what's happening with our cars, what's happening with trips, 01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:30.500 what's happening with this, what's coming, which, by the way, 01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:33.400 I have now booked for early October. 01:54:33.780 --> 01:54:39.400 I have booked my trip to go to Toronto and finally meet my nephew. 01:54:40.020 --> 01:54:40.400 Wow. 01:54:41.380 --> 01:54:41.980 So. 01:54:42.300 --> 01:54:43.480 Wow. Excellent. Excellent. 01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:47.080 We'll be doing that in early October. But anyway, yeah. 01:54:47.320 --> 01:54:53.880 So, Yvonne, what's a highlight from the Slack this week that will make people want to give us money? 01:54:54.620 --> 01:54:59.780 Sam shared this story, which is just, I mean, it's such an interesting offer. 01:55:00.040 --> 01:55:02.900 I can't believe that more people are not going to sign up for this service. 01:55:03.280 --> 01:55:09.940 It says that a startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is 100% fatal. 01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:15.420 NetCub will preserve your brain, but you have to be euthanized first. 01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:20.740 I didn't even go and read the article, okay, in this case. after just reading 01:55:20.740 --> 01:55:26.360 the headline because it seems quite preposterous that, oh, yes, 01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:29.780 well, oh, you can upload your brain, but, you know, we have to kill you. 01:55:30.470 --> 01:55:36.210 Well, presumably, this would be marketed to people who were in the last stages of life anyway. 01:55:36.890 --> 01:55:40.210 Maybe, I guess. Or maybe not, because, you know. 01:55:41.030 --> 01:55:45.310 I mean, I don't know. Maybe we can do, we could, can we offer this to Donald? 01:55:46.810 --> 01:55:52.370 Well, because also, by the way, just to be clear, people have offered various, 01:55:52.610 --> 01:55:55.450 like, go freeze yourself, go freeze your head. 01:55:55.450 --> 01:55:55.970 Right, right, right. 01:55:55.970 --> 01:56:01.890 You know all kinds of things with the idea that they will at some point bring 01:56:01.890 --> 01:56:05.510 you back to life in one way or another i guess this one is a digital upload 01:56:05.510 --> 01:56:12.010 where maybe you can come back as an ai or something i don't know none of these work right. 01:56:12.010 --> 01:56:12.710 As far as. 01:56:12.710 --> 01:56:16.810 We know just to be clear none of them so far i mean maybe at some point the 01:56:16.810 --> 01:56:20.210 technology will be better but right now none of these work listen. 01:56:20.210 --> 01:56:21.270 We are getting better. 01:56:21.270 --> 01:56:23.610 You're not transferring information listen. 01:56:23.610 --> 01:56:27.070 We are getting better at reading information for the brain. On a separate article 01:56:27.070 --> 01:56:28.990 that we did share, which is real, 01:56:29.290 --> 01:56:36.370 is that there is this system that has been developed that you could connect 01:56:36.370 --> 01:56:41.070 to a person's brain and it could decode what words people try to say, 01:56:41.190 --> 01:56:43.610 but the words they merely imagine saying as well. 01:56:43.850 --> 01:56:44.150 Right. 01:56:45.150 --> 01:56:50.250 Which that's a breakthrough of, you know, that's an incredible breakthrough 01:56:50.250 --> 01:56:52.630 in terms of understanding what happens in the mind. 01:56:52.970 --> 01:56:56.710 Yeah, and they're talking about using this for people who have various diseases 01:56:56.710 --> 01:57:01.850 that keep them from talking, diseases or injuries that prevent them from talking, 01:57:01.870 --> 01:57:03.110 but their brain still works. 01:57:03.270 --> 01:57:03.490 Right. 01:57:03.630 --> 01:57:07.650 Where basically they can translate their thoughts into a voice. 01:57:07.810 --> 01:57:08.010 Yes. 01:57:08.530 --> 01:57:10.250 And this has been improving. 01:57:10.350 --> 01:57:13.350 No, and they actually talked about if people that they have recordings of their 01:57:13.350 --> 01:57:16.370 voice that they could actually make it sound like their voice. 01:57:17.090 --> 01:57:20.130 Yes, and there have been other things like that list there 01:57:20.130 --> 01:57:23.330 have been there have been prototypes 01:57:23.330 --> 01:57:26.590 of things that can like identify what 01:57:26.590 --> 01:57:29.590 you are dreaming about if you're dreaming you know 01:57:29.590 --> 01:57:32.390 things like that pull some you know 01:57:32.390 --> 01:57:39.250 very rude very crude kind of stuff it's not very sophisticated yet but i mean 01:57:39.250 --> 01:57:43.670 hell they're making progress along these lines i i joked under curmudgeon's 01:57:43.670 --> 01:57:49.850 corner slack that this just imagine once this becomes mandatory when you're 01:57:49.850 --> 01:57:51.370 like on a Zoom call for work, 01:57:51.530 --> 01:57:56.450 where in addition to anything you say out loud, it reads out loud anything you're thinking. 01:57:57.010 --> 01:57:57.170 Right. 01:57:58.210 --> 01:58:00.190 That'll make the negotiations go well. 01:58:00.410 --> 01:58:03.170 Yeah, I don't want all my out loud thoughts to be. 01:58:04.820 --> 01:58:10.140 You know, to go with said, like, I suppress a lot of things that I want to say on many occasions. 01:58:10.340 --> 01:58:17.400 There are many, many things that happen in my head that absolutely should not be said out loud. 01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:17.880 Correct. 01:58:19.380 --> 01:58:21.320 Correct. In all kinds of different directions. 01:58:21.340 --> 01:58:23.380 In all kinds of situations. Yeah. 01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:29.100 Yes, yes. There's all kinds of things. Like, there is a reason that you don't 01:58:29.100 --> 01:58:31.180 just say everything that comes into your head. 01:58:31.360 --> 01:58:31.760 Yes. 01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:37.840 You know, and look, there are things that come into my head that I realize are 01:58:37.840 --> 01:58:42.080 wrong and I should not say and I don't say. 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:47.480 And the fact that it came into my head should not be held against me. 01:58:47.860 --> 01:58:50.000 Correct. All right. Let's wrap it up. 01:58:50.520 --> 01:58:55.760 Okay. That's it. We'll get your brain chopped up for that thing later, Yvonne. 01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:58.020 Thank you. So nice of you, Dolph. 01:58:58.840 --> 01:59:01.380 We'll improve the Yvonne GPT with the results. 01:59:01.760 --> 01:59:05.680 And we'll continue the podcast. Okay, great. 01:59:06.340 --> 01:59:10.200 Okay. Hey, everybody. Have a great week. Stay safe. Blah, blah, 01:59:10.320 --> 01:59:11.860 blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. 01:59:12.140 --> 01:59:12.720 Blah, blah, blah. 01:59:13.360 --> 01:59:17.780 We're getting close to the end of the summer. School's already restarted where you are, hasn't it? 01:59:17.860 --> 01:59:18.360 Yes, it has. 01:59:19.320 --> 01:59:23.000 It hasn't where I am, and we've got weird things going on with school anyway. 01:59:23.220 --> 01:59:25.400 But anyway, summer's almost over. 01:59:26.020 --> 01:59:30.480 Enjoy whatever's left of it. And we'll see you next week. Goodbye. 01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:31.160 Bye. 01:59:31.760 --> 02:00:01.200 You You 02:00:01.200 --> 02:00:03.640 know how I mentioned I hate driving my wife's car? 02:00:04.160 --> 02:00:04.220 Yeah. 02:00:04.340 --> 02:00:10.900 Well, while we were recording, she and my son took off in my car to go eat somewhere. 02:00:10.940 --> 02:00:14.140 She was like, I have to leave now. Can I take your car? I'm like, sure. 02:00:14.460 --> 02:00:21.960 So now I am probably going to go take her car and try to chase her down to join them for lunch. 02:00:22.160 --> 02:00:23.520 But you have to drive her car. 02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:27.460 But I have to drive her car because she took my car because I blocked her in. 02:00:27.940 --> 02:00:29.160 because we've got something going on. 02:00:29.240 --> 02:00:32.320 Yeah, you blocked her. And so therefore, yeah, what are you going to do? 02:00:32.460 --> 02:00:34.400 Yeah, you're not going to make her like, yeah. 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:39.380 No, no. And then I figure like I join them. Then she has to leave to whatever she's going. 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:43.640 I will stay. I will eat my food with the boy. And then we'll come in. 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:45.420 I'll leave her her car. We can swap again. 02:00:45.580 --> 02:00:50.200 So, but I have to drive her car, which I hate, but it's only a couple miles away. So I'll live. 02:00:50.720 --> 02:00:52.320 Okay. I'm hitting stop. Goodbye. 02:00:52.820 --> 02:00:53.040 Bye.