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<v Ivan>All right okay ready okay.

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<v Sam>Shall uh shall we just uh go then yeah okay here it comes love Blah,

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<v Sam>blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Sam>Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, July 5th, 2025.

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<v Sam>It's just after 16 UTC as we're starting to record. I'm Sam Inter,

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<v Sam>Yvonne Bowes here. Hello, Yvonne.

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<v Ivan>Hi. You know, we were supposed to do this together this week. That was my plan.

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<v Sam>We had thought about doing this in person, like right before or right after

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<v Sam>the meetup or something. But unfortunately, yes, what happened, Yvonne?

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<v Ivan>Uh, I will say that now, with all the facts in front of me, after what happened, it's clearly my fault.

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<v Sam>Oh, no. What happened?

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<v Ivan>Well, sometime late last year, during one of our last trips,

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<v Ivan>I had noticed that Manu's and anybody on YouTube can see,

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<v Ivan>use the Solo Beats headphones that he had gotten many years ago.

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<v Ivan>And I say he had gotten because he had gotten to be, as my son closes the door

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<v Ivan>on me because I'm bothering him,

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<v Ivan>You know, he liked to travel, but he liked to use his iPad, and you can't really

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<v Ivan>be traveling on an airplane without the headphones, okay?

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<v Sam>For the sound on the iPad.

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<v Ivan>Right, exactly. And so, you know, it bothers the other passengers.

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<v Ivan>It's actually, you know, they do have, you know, some rules related to that

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<v Ivan>that said, you know, on the airlines that you can't, you know,

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<v Ivan>just be blasting stuff, okay?

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<v Sam>Right.

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<v Ivan>So, you know, I was like trying to get him to use headphones.

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<v Ivan>I'd been struggling to get him to use headphones.

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<v Ivan>Part of the reason is that my son, who has autism, doesn't have a lot of sensory issues.

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<v Ivan>But the one that he has is stuff.

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<v Ivan>No, no, no.

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<v Ivan>Stuff touching his earlobes or ear.

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<v Sam>Okay.

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<v Ivan>It's not the sound. He has no

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<v Ivan>problem with the sound. Blast music all you want. Go to a party, whatever.

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<v Ivan>It's the actual physical sensation against the ear itself, which also manifests

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<v Ivan>itself as we had struggled to get him to learn to swim.

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<v Ivan>Because any time that one of the parts about learning to swim is to dunk your

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<v Ivan>head underwater, that was always something excruciating for him.

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<v Ivan>Okay? Always was a problem.

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<v Ivan>We've gotten to learn to swim. And, you know, the thing is that the biggest

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<v Ivan>thing about him learning to swim wasn't, hey, I don't want him to be a competition swimmer.

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<v Ivan>I just want to make sure that if he falls in the water, since we have so much

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<v Ivan>in Florida, that he can get out.

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<v Sam>Right. It would be safe.

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<v Ivan>Yes. And that was the main goal. As he learned to swim, basically his entire

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<v Ivan>thing, you could see that his main mission was to keep his head above the water itself. which is.

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<v Sam>Which is a reasonable.

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<v Ivan>Mission which is a reasonable thing by the way when you're swimming as

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<v Ivan>well by the way okay you know so that's not exactly that

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<v Ivan>bad but it also manifested itself with headphones

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<v Ivan>where he had been refusing to you know he had been but one

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<v Ivan>day like years ago as i'm trying to get him to shop for headphones that actually

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<v Ivan>was at the apple store about something else they'd been doing a demo of the

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<v Ivan>the solo beats headphones and he went and ambled over to the table where they

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<v Ivan>were doing the demo of this music app and whatnot and handing out people headphones.

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<v Ivan>And lo and behold, he grabbed the headphones and he put them on and he put them

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<v Ivan>on and he stayed there playing and listen, you know, watching the demonstration

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<v Ivan>for a while. And I'm like, OK, how much are these three hundred something dollars sold?

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<v Ivan>OK, I was like, I don't care what the fuck's the price I had.

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<v Ivan>But I had been struggling to get him to wear any headphones up until then.

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<v Ivan>I'm like, you know, they could have literally the guy could have told me, oh, it's $1,500.

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<v Ivan>And I would have been like, okay, fine. Pack them up.

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<v Ivan>Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so, you know, we got those and he's used them now for a long time.

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<v Ivan>The, the, the problem is that I had noticed one of the last trips is that the,

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<v Ivan>the, the cushions had started to break and flake.

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<v Sam>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Ivan>So, I was like, look, I'll just get them new headphones. All right?

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<v Ivan>So, I got them these that are beat solo, but they're not, they actually are very different. Okay?

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<v Sam>Okay.

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<v Ivan>The cushions are not, they are really different.

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<v Sam>It's like a new model or something. So, they changed a bunch of stuff.

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<v Ivan>All right. Well, look, I didn't realize this.

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<v Sam>And so, they weren't his headphones.

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<v Ivan>So I didn't realize this was an, I didn't think that this was an issue because

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<v Ivan>I had actually, when I got on them, I, I, I, I, he, he had them in his desk.

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<v Ivan>I think he warmed for a little bit. And then I was like, ah, it's fine.

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<v Ivan>Well, look, well, we're heading to the airport. Well, we had left for the airport very early.

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<v Ivan>He got very sad and he started complaining about the headphones on the way to the airport.

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<v Ivan>So I decided to try to go back to get the, all right, go get the white headphones.

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<v Sam>The right headphones. At least you hadn't thrown them away. No, no.

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<v Ivan>I hadn't thrown them away. Which, yeah, I mean, I had thought about that, but no, I did not.

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<v Ivan>So, well, actually, we had forgotten about three things. We had forgotten the...

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<v Ivan>Well, he... First, he said about the headphones, and I'm like,

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<v Ivan>no, no, no, we got the new headphones.

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<v Ivan>No, we won't. And then he realized he didn't put on his Apple Watch.

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<v Ivan>Now, was more important because look

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<v Ivan>if he gets lost like you can find

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<v Ivan>him and i'm like you know he doesn't like

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<v Ivan>carrying his phone in his pocket it really like you know and i'm like fuck no

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<v Ivan>we need to go and but we left early enough that we could do this and then my

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<v Ivan>wife forgot this little thing for emotion sickness that she uses as well i'm

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<v Ivan>like fuck well well that's the reason we'd been ready very early. We had left super early.

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<v Ivan>We could turn around. We can get all this shit. Okay?

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<v Ivan>But the moment that we got on the plane, because the last time we flew at night,

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<v Ivan>we wound up being downgraded into coach on this airplane in an overnight flight.

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<v Ivan>And I must admit that Manu got really tired and cranky near the end of that

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<v Ivan>flight when we were coming from the West Coast.

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<v Ivan>So I said, well, let's not do that again. And I splurged, I bumped us into first

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<v Ivan>class, you know, because they wouldn't give me a free upgrade because there's

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<v Ivan>only like, they'll only give you like, for example, like me and a companion.

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<v Ivan>But if it's three of you, no.

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<v Ivan>No, we're not going to give you three upgrades. Okay? We'll give you two.

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<v Ivan>But the problem is if you're in a group of three, they won't even put you on

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<v Ivan>the upgrade list. So I have to pay.

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<v Ivan>I'm like, look, I'll pay for the damn upgrade. Just put us, you know,

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<v Ivan>I don't want to deal with this.

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<v Ivan>It's a flight that leaves at eight o'clock. It's going to get there at local

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<v Ivan>time over here to something in the morning.

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<v Ivan>You know, you know, it's let's just, you know.

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<v Ivan>So we sit down and Manu starts after a little bit, starts getting really nervous

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<v Ivan>about these headphones being around.

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<v Ivan>He doesn't want it because I said, well, look, you'll use you'll use the white

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<v Ivan>horse a little bit and you'll try the blue ones.

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<v Ivan>I need to get off this plane. I need to get off this plane. I need to. I'm afraid.

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<v Ivan>I need to get off this plane. I need to get off this plane. I need to get off

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<v Ivan>this plane. I need to get off this plane.

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<v Ivan>This was right after we boarded. We had sat down. We had had to. Yeah.

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<v Sam>Right, right, right, right. But even though you got the headphones you want,

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<v Sam>it was because you still had the other ones? Because you might make him use them.

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<v Ivan>Yes. And I hadn't really thought that it was that bad.

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<v Ivan>The thing is that at the moment, he wasn't saying it was about the headphones.

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<v Sam>Right.

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<v Ivan>He just said, I'm afraid. I need to get off this plane. I'm scared.

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<v Ivan>Crew tried to settle him down. Captain tried to settle him down.

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<v Ivan>Had him sit down in the cockpit and everything.

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<v Ivan>And, but look, he went out on the jetway and he was like, no.

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<v Ivan>And, you know, we tried, my wife tried arguing with him. She didn't understand

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<v Ivan>what the hell was going on because I was the one that was sitting right beside him.

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<v Ivan>But I could see how, look, how afraid and how upset he was. And I told her,

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<v Ivan>look, man, we're not going anywhere. This is not happening.

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<v Ivan>This is just not happening. And so, you know, so we, customer service agent

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<v Ivan>came up and asked, so what's the deal? What are we doing? I'm not going.

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<v Ivan>So I walked back out and thankfully American, well, given that I'm a good customer,

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<v Ivan>went and they canceled the, canceled the, canceled my segments.

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<v Ivan>And if you cancel them right before departure, then you get your trip credit.

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<v Ivan>You get everything back as a trip credit.

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<v Ivan>So I did not lose any of that. And I did manage to call Marriott.

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<v Ivan>And also, even though I was well past the cancellation, they did cancel the

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<v Ivan>hotel in Seattle and everything.

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<v Ivan>So Manu, it took a while for him to calm down from this because,

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<v Ivan>well, in part, he was very upset with himself that he didn't fly because he likes to fly.

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<v Sam>Right. But the one good thing out of this story is you have determined that

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<v Sam>it is not a permanent fear of flying.

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<v Sam>Because, you know, I know that was a concern when this started.

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<v Ivan>But no, it's not a fear of flying. He was actually very upset that he couldn't

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<v Ivan>fly. He was very hard on himself later.

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<v Ivan>I made a mistake.

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<v Ivan>He was being super hard on himself.

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<v Ivan>Then after he calmed down and they explained to me, I said, Manu,

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<v Ivan>is it just about, was it just because of the headphones? Yes.

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<v Ivan>So, well, okay, so good news. So I'm working.

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<v Ivan>One of the things about this is that in order for many of these things with

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<v Ivan>him, and this is for anybody, you know, a child with autism,

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<v Ivan>in order to condition him to these things, One of the things that you do is

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<v Ivan>you try to condition them to the device or whatever,

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<v Ivan>taking some time in order for them to get used to it with some time.

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<v Ivan>And so I'm working on that right now with him where he is actually.

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<v Ivan>And I think he may have gotten not used to not. I don't know.

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<v Ivan>He's really very fond of these headphones.

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<v Ivan>So first thing is I did manage. Well, a friend of mine actually managed to find

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<v Ivan>where they sell the little cushion replacements.

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<v Ivan>So I'm getting those because these headphones are actually fine. It's just the cushions.

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<v Ivan>So I managed to see a place where they sell those. And then what we're working

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<v Ivan>is on some just conditioning where he is using them for a few minutes every day.

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<v Ivan>He is touching the blue ones every day. He's working on them,

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<v Ivan>which is something that I've done before with other things. And over time,

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<v Ivan>he gets used to it and that fear goes away. But it does take time to do that.

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<v Ivan>And I have not done that with the I didn't really think that the thing is that with Manu,

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<v Ivan>it's so rare that he it that he gets like that over things that I just you know

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<v Ivan>what? Didn't think about it.

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<v Ivan>and so um so that goes on me

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<v Ivan>because i should have known given

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<v Ivan>how difficult it was for him to use headphones in the first place

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<v Ivan>that's just changing out the headphones but but again you know i don't know

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<v Ivan>man i got him a new tv i got him a new computer i got this stuff none of that

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<v Ivan>was a big deal and he was fine yes right you know fine even for the most part you know It's like,

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<v Ivan>but, but, but the thing is that he is really, you know, he has very few sensory

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<v Ivan>issues, but the one that he does have that he's always had is related to the ears.

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<v Ivan>And so it's something that you need to, you know.

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<v Ivan>You know, us parents with children with autism are things that you have to be

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<v Ivan>cognizant of these things and to deal with them in the best way possible.

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<v Ivan>The one way that I've done this before with other items that Manu was scared

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<v Ivan>of, there's a few items that he was scared of, like the hair trimmer.

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<v Ivan>So I basically bought a hair trimmer and I left it in his room until he stopped

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<v Ivan>being scared of it, around it.

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<v Ivan>And then I started just trimming his hair a little bit at home and he would

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<v Ivan>let me do it and he would touch it 30 seconds or whatever.

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<v Ivan>But over time, over months, months and months, now he's like comfortable with a trimmer.

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<v Ivan>or the hair or nail clippers for some reason. That's also one that he was scared of. Same thing.

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<v Ivan>So, but it's, it's the, it's the little things that you have to have a tactic to, uh, to deal with.

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<v Ivan>So bottom line, what my wife,

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<v Ivan>She's in Vancouver. Look, she was going to an event. She was going to a convention in Vancouver.

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<v Ivan>We were going, you know, the whole thing, my idea was, hey, well,

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<v Ivan>Seattle and Vancouver are relatively close.

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<v Ivan>Why don't I go to Seattle for a little bit, see Sam, we drive up,

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<v Ivan>had a rental car, go to Vancouver, and then fly back from Vancouver.

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<v Ivan>Well, I managed because I did get our tickets refunded and whatever and whatnot.

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<v Ivan>Well, I put her on a plane to Vancouver on Thursday because one thing is that

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<v Ivan>I wasn't sure. Now, Manu has promised me right now that if I fix the white headphones,

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<v Ivan>he will get back on an airplane.

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<v Sam>Okay.

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<v Ivan>He said that's no problem and actually has been asking, where can we go?

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<v Ivan>And I'm like, look, we're not going to go right now.

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<v Ivan>I do have the flight credits. I have tickets paid for. So it's not like it's

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<v Ivan>that big a deal. It's not the money. I got paid for tickets. So I just, you know.

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<v Sam>But this was the time you had set.

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<v Ivan>This was the time we had set. Exactly. That's the problem. Okay.

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<v Ivan>This is the time that we had set. So, you know, I might take him with me on

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<v Ivan>one of my next business trips. This is summer.

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<v Ivan>I'll just, I just might take him with him. And since I got family,

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<v Ivan>I got to go to Puerto Rico. Because I have family.

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<v Ivan>I'll talk to my aunt and say, hey, can you, you know, if I got to go to a business

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<v Ivan>meeting, go watch, watch Manu.

00:15:09.020 --> 00:15:12.740
<v Ivan>Will I have to go to a meeting or something or whatever? I could probably figure

00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:16.260
<v Ivan>out who, who can mine Manu. Will I, will I do some work?

00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:23.120
<v Ivan>So that, that may be my, my next experiment. But anyway, it's my fault. we're not there.

00:15:23.740 --> 00:15:27.480
<v Ivan>I messed up. And so, uh, okay.

00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:32.020
<v Sam>Well, and so sorry to the people who said they wanted to meet us for the curmudgeon's

00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:34.600
<v Sam>corner meetup. Maybe some other time we'll see.

00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:39.340
<v Ivan>Oh, I think Manu wants to, Manu didn't want to go to Seattle.

00:15:39.520 --> 00:15:42.260
<v Ivan>So I don't know, probably have to figure out to speak.

00:15:42.780 --> 00:15:48.080
<v Sam>Someday, someday, you know? Yeah. So, and we did have a couple of people who

00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:49.740
<v Sam>were going to show up. Yes.

00:15:50.260 --> 00:15:50.560
<v Ivan>Yes.

00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:55.640
<v Sam>Anyway. Okay, I have a story. I have a story, too. So I'm actually going to

00:15:55.640 --> 00:15:58.420
<v Sam>dispense with the movies and books and stuff.

00:15:58.860 --> 00:15:59.200
<v Ivan>We're dispensing.

00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:04.280
<v Sam>I've been doing two a week for a few weeks. So, you know, we will dispense with

00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:07.000
<v Sam>those and I will tell a story instead.

00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:12.360
<v Sam>And, you know, look, yeah, okay. So and then we'll see, like,

00:16:12.500 --> 00:16:14.380
<v Sam>there is newsy stuff to talk about.

00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.900
<v Sam>I'm not going to worry too much. We can squeeze that to the end of the show. It's fine.

00:16:18.900 --> 00:16:23.320
<v Ivan>I mean, the world is, you know, fucked up. News summary.

00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:28.480
<v Ivan>Our country is fucked up. The world is fucked up. Okay, here you go. News summary. Next.

00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.780
<v Sam>Okay, there you go. Okay, I'll tell my story. So last weekend,

00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:40.360
<v Sam>and this was happening probably not, well, it overlapped with the story you

00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:43.000
<v Sam>just told. So it was Sunday last weekend.

00:16:44.560 --> 00:16:51.260
<v Sam>So Brandy was going to go to one of like a pride parade in Seattle. Okay.

00:16:51.980 --> 00:16:56.020
<v Sam>So she was going to go and participate and help like carry the flag and do some

00:16:56.020 --> 00:16:57.780
<v Sam>stuff, meet some friends, do whatever.

00:16:58.400 --> 00:17:06.000
<v Sam>And so she didn't want to drive there because, you know, it was like a one-way parade.

00:17:06.220 --> 00:17:09.620
<v Sam>You know, you start in one place and you go like two miles and you end up somewhere

00:17:09.620 --> 00:17:12.620
<v Sam>else. She didn't want to walk back to get to the car, blah, blah, blah.

00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:15.980
<v Sam>all kinds of things. So the plan was that I would drop her up,

00:17:16.380 --> 00:17:19.380
<v Sam>drop her off, and then pick her up like late. Right.

00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.600
<v Sam>So I went to, so I drove her into Seattle.

00:17:23.780 --> 00:17:27.940
<v Sam>I dropped her off near the start of the parade route. And of course it gets

00:17:27.940 --> 00:17:29.020
<v Sam>crowded as you get close.

00:17:29.140 --> 00:17:33.340
<v Sam>So it didn't get quite as close to it as I wanted to, but I dropped her off and she went in.

00:17:33.500 --> 00:17:38.900
<v Sam>So I started to go home and And I went a little ways towards home.

00:17:39.500 --> 00:17:40.640
<v Sam>Car started overheating.

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<v Ivan>Oh, boy.

00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.200
<v Sam>Yes. Car started overheating. Now, wait.

00:17:45.380 --> 00:17:47.020
<v Ivan>Which car? We're driving your car.

00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:48.360
<v Sam>I was driving my.

00:17:48.360 --> 00:17:49.440
<v Ivan>Which is a Subaru.

00:17:50.460 --> 00:17:52.880
<v Sam>It's a 2012 Subaru in front.

00:17:53.560 --> 00:17:55.820
<v Ivan>2012 Subaru. How many miles on this thing?

00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:57.900
<v Sam>Like 151,000.

00:17:58.970 --> 00:18:05.430
<v Ivan>Ah, well, okay. Here, so from what I know.

00:18:05.690 --> 00:18:07.730
<v Sam>I have a lot of story left to go.

00:18:07.870 --> 00:18:11.550
<v Ivan>Well, here is. Okay, so based on the information you've told me,

00:18:12.490 --> 00:18:22.750
<v Ivan>these Subarus of that vintage have issues specifically around head gaskets that

00:18:22.750 --> 00:18:26.190
<v Ivan>cause coolant loss, that cause overheating.

00:18:26.390 --> 00:18:28.030
<v Ivan>It's been a well-known thing.

00:18:28.970 --> 00:18:32.590
<v Sam>Okay. Well, we'll see if we get there. So good prediction.

00:18:32.870 --> 00:18:37.050
<v Sam>We will, I will tell the rest of the story and then we will see if you are right.

00:18:37.870 --> 00:18:42.890
<v Sam>Okay. So first thing I do is I'm like, I, this happened.

00:18:43.070 --> 00:18:48.370
<v Sam>It started overheating right before I was going to get on the highway.

00:18:48.750 --> 00:18:49.010
<v Ivan>Oh shit.

00:18:49.010 --> 00:18:52.570
<v Sam>So so i say i'm

00:18:52.570 --> 00:18:55.670
<v Sam>not gonna get no highway no no i i

00:18:55.670 --> 00:18:58.910
<v Sam>say i'm not gonna get on the highway and so i

00:18:58.910 --> 00:19:01.690
<v Sam>i i pass the exit to the

00:19:01.690 --> 00:19:04.590
<v Sam>highway and i'm looking for like a parking

00:19:04.590 --> 00:19:08.890
<v Sam>lot i can pull over into or something like that um but

00:19:08.890 --> 00:19:11.690
<v Sam>the light goes out it looks like it's

00:19:11.690 --> 00:19:15.630
<v Sam>happy again i'm like okay well

00:19:15.630 --> 00:19:23.410
<v Sam>maybe it was something transient even for those of you who can't see Yvonne

00:19:23.410 --> 00:19:32.390
<v Sam>is shaking no no no no no so so you started you.

00:19:32.390 --> 00:19:33.770
<v Ivan>Started wishful thinking.

00:19:33.770 --> 00:19:36.530
<v Sam>I started I started wishful thinking i

00:19:36.530 --> 00:19:39.650
<v Sam>did a big like 10 i i

00:19:39.650 --> 00:19:42.470
<v Sam>i did a big loop around the light didn't go

00:19:42.470 --> 00:19:48.350
<v Sam>on for like 10 minutes i'm like okay i'll i'll get on the highway so you went

00:19:48.350 --> 00:19:54.290
<v Sam>10 minutes which you could have used on the highway better i could have yes

00:19:54.290 --> 00:20:00.430
<v Sam>although where i was like it took a while to get back it's not like it's not like the highway.

00:20:00.430 --> 00:20:02.970
<v Ivan>Okay and it depends on what the failure is.

00:20:02.970 --> 00:20:08.750
<v Sam>You've got more cooling because of the air flow. Yes. Okay. So anyway, I got on the highway,

00:20:09.690 --> 00:20:14.050
<v Sam>And the first thing I'm doing is I'm from, because of where I was in the route

00:20:14.050 --> 00:20:18.010
<v Sam>home, I was crossing the lake from Washington, from Seattle,

00:20:18.170 --> 00:20:21.210
<v Sam>Washington to Bellevue, Washington. So I was on like bridges and stuff.

00:20:21.790 --> 00:20:26.810
<v Sam>So I'm like on the bridge going across and I'm about halfway through and it

00:20:26.810 --> 00:20:29.730
<v Sam>starts like shuddering, starts going shuddering.

00:20:30.570 --> 00:20:32.650
<v Sam>No, it doesn't. What does it do? It's just the light.

00:20:32.650 --> 00:20:33.210
<v Ivan>It's just the lights.

00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:36.010
<v Sam>It's just the lights, just the lights blinking on the dashboard.

00:20:36.230 --> 00:20:39.550
<v Sam>I have no other signs of this. Like there's no like.

00:20:39.550 --> 00:20:42.990
<v Ivan>Okay, but the light came back on.

00:20:43.450 --> 00:20:48.390
<v Sam>The light came back on, and not only that, it started blinking between the red light. Oh, man.

00:20:50.010 --> 00:20:53.350
<v Sam>Which indicates not only is it hot, but the fluid levels are low.

00:20:54.930 --> 00:20:58.510
<v Sam>Okay? So I managed to get off the bridge.

00:20:59.230 --> 00:20:59.670
<v Ivan>Park?

00:20:59.870 --> 00:21:06.270
<v Sam>I pull over. I find some place to park. It's actually near where we used to

00:21:06.270 --> 00:21:07.770
<v Sam>live before we moved to Africa.

00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:08.010
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:21:08.270 --> 00:21:13.410
<v Sam>So I knew the area. OK, it's in Bellevue, Washington, for anybody who near here,

00:21:13.510 --> 00:21:15.250
<v Sam>it's like the Factoria Mall.

00:21:15.610 --> 00:21:18.350
<v Sam>I ended up at parked like near the Factoria Mall.

00:21:18.950 --> 00:21:22.570
<v Sam>Actually, the first thing I saw was a Jiffy Lube and I pulled into the damn

00:21:22.570 --> 00:21:26.170
<v Sam>Jiffy Lube just in case I'm like, OK, am I just out of fluids?

00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:27.830
<v Sam>They were closed. So it didn't matter.

00:21:28.810 --> 00:21:31.930
<v Sam>But so I ended up at a parking lot at the mall.

00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:37.810
<v Sam>And so no, a gas station. I went I went to a gas station next.

00:21:37.870 --> 00:21:38.210
<v Ivan>Triple A.

00:21:38.410 --> 00:21:42.030
<v Sam>I'm like. Well, first, I'm like, you know, maybe I just have to,

00:21:42.030 --> 00:21:43.990
<v Sam>like, fill up the radiator or whatever.

00:21:44.230 --> 00:21:46.830
<v Sam>Fill up the core. Yvonne's shaking his head again.

00:21:46.850 --> 00:21:53.710
<v Ivan>Oh, God, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Another no, no, no, no.

00:21:54.890 --> 00:21:56.370
<v Sam>Oh, you'll love the rest of us.

00:21:56.370 --> 00:21:57.010
<v Ivan>Oh, God, no.

00:21:57.010 --> 00:21:58.450
<v Sam>We're not even close to the end.

00:21:58.550 --> 00:21:59.770
<v Ivan>Oh, jeez, okay.

00:22:01.930 --> 00:22:08.770
<v Sam>So, first of all, I am like, you know, hey, I could just call AAA. Yes, yes.

00:22:08.770 --> 00:22:09.750
<v Ivan>Yes. Yes.

00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:13.610
<v Sam>But no, I'm like, I'm at the gas station and they have some coolant.

00:22:13.890 --> 00:22:20.190
<v Sam>Like I, I, I, like, you know, I, I, I, you know, wait for everything to cool down.

00:22:20.810 --> 00:22:23.310
<v Ivan>Okay. You didn't wait. Okay. Good. All right. At least you didn't do that.

00:22:23.490 --> 00:22:27.430
<v Sam>I didn't open it and have it explode in my face. I'm not in the hospital.

00:22:27.770 --> 00:22:28.010
<v Ivan>Okay. All right.

00:22:28.350 --> 00:22:28.550
<v Sam>Good.

00:22:28.930 --> 00:22:33.950
<v Ivan>Okay. Well, you're going to have the scary episode without being in the hospital,

00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:38.430
<v Ivan>you know, as some people have, but okay. All right. So you didn't wait for it to cool down.

00:22:39.350 --> 00:22:44.050
<v Sam>I did wait for it to cool down. I added coolant. I read the whole thing. I waited.

00:22:44.310 --> 00:22:47.330
<v Sam>I, you know, I was looking up instructions on the internet on how long I should

00:22:47.330 --> 00:22:50.930
<v Sam>wait and what kind I should put in and all this kind of stuff.

00:22:51.010 --> 00:22:51.950
<v Sam>Cause of course I don't know.

00:22:52.290 --> 00:22:55.890
<v Sam>Cause yeah, I'm not a car person at all, but I'm looking up the,

00:22:56.110 --> 00:22:59.390
<v Sam>like what, what, what I should add, how much I should add, how long I should wait.

00:22:59.390 --> 00:23:02.910
<v Ivan>So the number one thing that these people didn't tell you is like, Hey, you know what?

00:23:03.030 --> 00:23:06.110
<v Ivan>This adding coolant thing doesn't really work. You really should just,

00:23:06.470 --> 00:23:07.950
<v Ivan>you know, at this moment, we should just quit.

00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:13.060
<v Ivan>None of these idiots on the fucking internet said this because that is the,

00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:16.680
<v Ivan>you know, this is the thing that pisses me off about the fucking internet.

00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.400
<v Ivan>The first thing they should have told you is, hey, you know what?

00:23:20.500 --> 00:23:25.500
<v Ivan>Guess what? If you're at this situation, just quit while you're ahead. Don't do anything.

00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:34.180
<v Ivan>Because if your car is low on coolant so quickly, something else is majorly wrong.

00:23:36.520 --> 00:23:41.880
<v Sam>Right. Okay. So. After waiting the appropriate time, I try to drive again.

00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:42.740
<v Ivan>Uh-huh.

00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:49.780
<v Sam>So I make it, it goes like, I don't know, five minutes, less than five minutes.

00:23:50.560 --> 00:23:52.500
<v Sam>And then it starts overheating again.

00:23:52.580 --> 00:23:52.980
<v Ivan>Of course.

00:23:54.360 --> 00:23:58.700
<v Sam>So, and then I'll leave out a couple steps here because there were some,

00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:00.200
<v Sam>you know, start and stop.

00:24:00.360 --> 00:24:03.700
<v Sam>But I ended up in the parking lot of the Factoria Mall.

00:24:04.340 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Sam>and, you know, I popped a hood, you know, ready to look again,

00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:11.840
<v Sam>ready to add more fluids. You know, because I hadn't...

00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:13.760
<v Ivan>You did not.

00:24:13.760 --> 00:24:14.660
<v Sam>I hadn't filled it.

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:15.660
<v Ivan>Oh, you hadn't filled it.

00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:21.280
<v Sam>I'd add, I added some, but I bought like one gallon and it hadn't filled it entirely.

00:24:21.560 --> 00:24:26.080
<v Sam>So I'm like, okay, maybe I need to add more. And so I went and bought like two more gallons.

00:24:26.100 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Ivan>Did you look to see if it was leaking?

00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:30.520
<v Sam>There was nothing visible under the car.

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:30.760
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:24:31.380 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Sam>Like there was not like a pool of stuff. Other than when I poured,

00:24:35.060 --> 00:24:37.920
<v Sam>like, the fluid and mist.

00:24:38.100 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Ivan>Yeah, of course. Yeah, that does.

00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:39.780
<v Sam>Yes.

00:24:40.180 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Ivan>I mean, yeah.

00:24:41.380 --> 00:24:44.820
<v Sam>Because, of course, the first time I did this, I didn't get a follow or anything.

00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.820
<v Ivan>Show, Lord. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. That's standard operating procedure.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:51.640
<v Ivan>Yes, okay. All right, good. All right. I'm glad.

00:24:52.340 --> 00:25:00.600
<v Sam>Okay, so this time when I opened it, I noticed a very visible large hole in

00:25:00.600 --> 00:25:06.300
<v Sam>one of the radiator pipes. well that like it was a big big like okay so.

00:25:06.300 --> 00:25:10.520
<v Ivan>So so so what are the what are radiator hoses popped.

00:25:10.520 --> 00:25:14.340
<v Sam>Yes not good yes not good,

00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:23.460
<v Sam>so then again again skipping again skipping a few steps because there were other

00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:32.220
<v Sam>thought processes and things that were going but and don't get me started on why this even like,

00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:35.300
<v Sam>crossed my mind what.

00:25:35.300 --> 00:25:37.240
<v Ivan>Crossed your mind good lord.

00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:44.020
<v Sam>I was within sight of an auto parts store so i'm like this looks easy i'll just get the hose.

00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:46.980
<v Ivan>Oh, my God. No.

00:25:47.080 --> 00:25:49.700
<v Sam>Yvonne is holding his head in his hands.

00:25:53.060 --> 00:25:57.840
<v Ivan>What raging thoughts of delusion were crossing through your head?

00:25:57.840 --> 00:25:59.140
<v Sam>Well, first I was going to duct

00:25:59.140 --> 00:26:03.040
<v Sam>tape the hole. First I was going to duct tape the hole. You know what?

00:26:03.040 --> 00:26:08.180
<v Ivan>That actually would have been probably a better idea. Given your skill set,

00:26:09.220 --> 00:26:11.240
<v Ivan>probably would have been a better idea.

00:26:14.060 --> 00:26:19.840
<v Sam>So i bought the right hose i bought an a the wrench they told me i needed oh.

00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Ivan>God these guys.

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:21.280
<v Sam>At the auto.

00:26:21.280 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Ivan>Parts store are also a bunch of fucking idiots i'm like they're not looking

00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Ivan>at this guy do you even know what you're doing sir should be the first thing.

00:26:33.340 --> 00:26:36.020
<v Sam>So i i got the old hose off in like

00:26:36.020 --> 00:26:38.940
<v Sam>30 seconds i started putting the

00:26:38.940 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Sam>the new one on i i got the new one in place but

00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.180
<v Sam>the the the sort of friction brackets they

00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:49.180
<v Sam>had the tool they'd given me could not get

00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Sam>them open enough to get over the hose to

00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Sam>clamp it properly okay so these are the kinds of brackets by the way where it's

00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:02.100
<v Sam>not the kind with the little screw it's the kind that are like tension so they

00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:08.780
<v Sam>like they close out you have to like pull them open with a lot of force and

00:27:08.780 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Sam>then So these hose clamps were not like.

00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.340
<v Ivan>They're not the ones that you tighten with a screw. These are actually tension

00:27:15.340 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Ivan>ones. Okay. All right. Got it.

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:22.100
<v Sam>Yes. Yes. Okay. And the wrench they gave me just kept slipping.

00:27:22.300 --> 00:27:25.180
<v Sam>It just could not produce enough force. It kept slipping.

00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Sam>So after like trying this for like an hour, maybe more, I went back to the auto

00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:37.020
<v Sam>parts store and I was like, you know, this wrench is not doing the thing.

00:27:37.840 --> 00:27:40.840
<v Sam>and and so they they gave

00:27:40.840 --> 00:27:43.840
<v Sam>me they they exchanged it they

00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:51.180
<v Sam>exchanged the wrench they gave me a better more expensive wrench okay and at

00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:56.060
<v Sam>this point also this is a crucial thing they said you know it might be good

00:27:56.060 --> 00:28:01.320
<v Sam>also just get you know just get new of the clamps but they didn't have the right kind,

00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.800
<v Sam>They didn't have the right kind. They only had the screw kind.

00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:10.180
<v Sam>And they mentioned that, but the screw kind isn't recommended for this because

00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Sam>it can't really handle the pressure.

00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Sam>They'll come loose. They will come loose over time.

00:28:15.860 --> 00:28:16.780
<v Ivan>It can't handle the pressure.

00:28:16.780 --> 00:28:21.460
<v Sam>Yeah, so like, now, here's the thing. I was never intending to make a permanent repair.

00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.660
<v Sam>I just wanted to get the thing so I could drive it to the shop instead of calling AAA.

00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Ivan>Which by the way this is the thing about your explanation why does this make sense,

00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Ivan>since all you're trying to do is to get into the fucking shop why the hell did

00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.940
<v Ivan>you just have a toad to the fucking shop which you're already paying for triple

00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:48.300
<v Ivan>a so it is free and then just take an uber home well.

00:28:48.300 --> 00:28:56.040
<v Sam>Well in part because by this point i'd already done half i i'd taken off the

00:28:56.040 --> 00:28:58.420
<v Sam>old hose. I'm like, oh, this would be embarrassing.

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Ivan>This is what we're concerned about. Oh, okay. All right. This will be embarrassing at this point. Okay.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Sam>You know, because I've done a half-ass bad repair.

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Ivan>So, you know, you just don't want to look like a, you know, like an idiot. Oh, okay. All right.

00:29:16.260 --> 00:29:18.940
<v Ivan>That's our biggest concern at this point. Okay.

00:29:19.300 --> 00:29:28.340
<v Sam>Right. So, anyway, so I take, oh, and so they had the screw ones that I, they were on the thing.

00:29:28.660 --> 00:29:35.180
<v Sam>I had them there and the, but because they were like, ah, these aren't good

00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Sam>for this though. I'm like, okay, I'll just get the wrench.

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.740
<v Sam>I'm not going to get the, the screw things and I'll go back.

00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:44.780
<v Sam>And, and they're, and they're, they're very friendly. They're very nice.

00:29:44.860 --> 00:29:48.120
<v Sam>They're like, if this doesn't work, come right back. Okay. But I went.

00:29:48.120 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Ivan>And so what's i you know what time of the day is this by now okay.

00:29:53.720 --> 00:30:00.120
<v Sam>Well this whole thing started probably around.

00:30:00.120 --> 00:30:02.460
<v Ivan>One one o'clock in the afternoon.

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Sam>But by this time it was like five.

00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:10.940
<v Ivan>Holy shit we've been at this already for four or five hours yeah so wait okay

00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:15.580
<v Ivan>so by the way what's what's brandy doing at this point you know brandy's still

00:30:15.580 --> 00:30:18.520
<v Ivan>like okay brandy's still at the parade okay fine Why? Okay.

00:30:19.340 --> 00:30:21.800
<v Ivan>And you haven't told her anything about this.

00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:24.220
<v Sam>No, no, no. I've been in constant communication.

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Ivan>Oh, no. She knows. So she knows. Okay. All right. Fine.

00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Sam>She knows. She knows. She knows all this is going on. And yeah.

00:30:32.120 --> 00:30:35.220
<v Sam>And, you know, there are a few places I said I skipped stuff.

00:30:35.380 --> 00:30:39.340
<v Sam>Like before I went to the auto parts star, I like went to like the target that

00:30:39.340 --> 00:30:43.260
<v Sam>was also in to see if I could get duct tape or see if I could get other things.

00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Sam>And then I then I realized, okay, that's not going to do it.

00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Sam>So then I looked, you know, is there an auto parts near store nearby?

00:30:50.600 --> 00:30:52.460
<v Sam>And it was like right across the street from where I'd park.

00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.740
<v Sam>So I was like, OK, I'll go over there, you know.

00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:58.740
<v Sam>Anyway, I'd left out a bunch of steps and walking back and forth and doing things.

00:30:58.980 --> 00:31:03.320
<v Sam>And at one point, you know, I was I was trying again, adding more fluid,

00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:07.760
<v Sam>but I needed to let it cool down again. So I went and had lunch at the mall, you know.

00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:12.360
<v Ivan>So one of the few sensible things that you did, which is like at some point,

00:31:12.520 --> 00:31:16.380
<v Ivan>you know, why don't I have lunch? I actually think that that was one of the

00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:18.820
<v Ivan>few sensible things I've heard so far. Yes.

00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:28.700
<v Sam>So, anyway, with this new wrench, I got much, much further.

00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:36.020
<v Sam>I got one end of the hose basically on.

00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:36.300
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:41.800
<v Sam>I could tell it wasn't quite where it was supposed to be, but it was secure

00:31:41.800 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Sam>enough that I could not remove it by pulling it with my hand.

00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:45.860
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:51.840
<v Sam>Yeah, basically, if you know how these things work, there's a little lip where

00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Sam>you stick the hose onto a metal part, and there's a little lip on that.

00:31:56.120 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Sam>You have to get over the lip, and then you clamp it on the other side of the

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Sam>lip so it can't pull off. Okay?

00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Sam>And on the one end, I got it so the clamp was on the lip.

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:32:08.340 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Sam>Not past the lip, but on the lip.

00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:10.560
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:32:11.020 --> 00:32:18.320
<v Sam>So it wasn't, I knew it wasn't how it was supposed to be. but it seemed okay.

00:32:18.760 --> 00:32:22.820
<v Sam>Okay. The other side for the life of me, I could not get on.

00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:23.320
<v Ivan>No, boy.

00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:27.040
<v Sam>I could not, I could not get it over the lip. Okay.

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:36.320
<v Sam>And so I, I tried and I tried and I kept going over and over and over again.

00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:41.660
<v Sam>Like I could, I could get the clamp on, I could get the hose on where it's supposed

00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:45.460
<v Sam>to be, but I could not get the clamp into position over where it is.

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:50.780
<v Sam>And part of what this apparently is, as I have learned subsequently, the OEM parts,

00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:55.800
<v Sam>well, the non OEM parts, like the kind I got from the auto parts store,

00:32:56.020 --> 00:33:03.540
<v Sam>are slightly thicker and slightly stiffer than the name brand parts that you

00:33:03.540 --> 00:33:04.500
<v Sam>would have gotten from the factory.

00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:07.280
<v Sam>So they are harder to get on.

00:33:08.040 --> 00:33:13.360
<v Sam>You know, like basically the hose was just slightly too thick for me to get

00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:21.740
<v Sam>it over the lump. And like, I am sure an experienced technician with all the right tools and stuff.

00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:24.660
<v Ivan>Yeah, they could have gotten it on. Right. Yeah.

00:33:25.260 --> 00:33:29.340
<v Sam>They could have gotten it on, but I could not fully. So, of course,

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.220
<v Sam>the first thing I do is I try, I get it on as best I can.

00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:39.660
<v Sam>And I'm like, okay, I'll give this a shot. It's the best I can.

00:33:39.800 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Sam>I've been trying for hours. Yeah.

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Sam>I'm going to, I'll drive around the mall parking lot for a couple minutes,

00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.100
<v Sam>see if it seems like it's going, and then start going.

00:33:50.300 --> 00:33:52.460
<v Sam>So I drive around the mall parking lot a couple minutes.

00:33:52.820 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Sam>It's going kind of okay.

00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:03.260
<v Sam>So I decide to cross the street and go back to the gas station where I'd originally filled up the fluids.

00:34:03.800 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Sam>Because I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'll just go short. I'll check it.

00:34:08.580 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Sam>And, you know, I need some oil, too.

00:34:10.120 --> 00:34:12.460
<v Sam>Maybe I'll buy some oil. Maybe I'll add some oil. Yeah, sure.

00:34:12.660 --> 00:34:14.680
<v Ivan>The oil's going to fix this problem, of course.

00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Sam>So I go across the street to the gas station. I get some oil.

00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.560
<v Sam>I pop the hood open. And guess what?

00:34:23.160 --> 00:34:30.120
<v Sam>The hose came off on the end that was not clearly on right. Which,

00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Sam>of course, you would expect.

00:34:31.460 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Ivan>It wasn't clearly on right.

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Sam>Yeah, I knew it wasn't on right. So then here is the next big mistake I made.

00:34:39.740 --> 00:34:40.180
<v Ivan>Yeah.

00:34:41.100 --> 00:34:45.120
<v Sam>You know, those of you who are only listening to audio and not watching on video

00:34:45.120 --> 00:34:48.600
<v Sam>are missing out on all of Yvonne's facial expressions during all of this.

00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:57.080
<v Ivan>I'm just, like, yeah, I'm just, every second of the story, it's like,

00:34:57.180 --> 00:35:00.720
<v Ivan>I just hear Sam just sliding further and further into quicksand.

00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.180
<v Ivan>That's all it feels like, you know? And he keeps, like, trying harder to get

00:35:05.180 --> 00:35:08.560
<v Ivan>out of the quicksand, just keeps burying him further and further, yes.

00:35:09.120 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Sam>Hey, look, I was actually, like, I was proud of myself. I, like,

00:35:16.120 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Sam>kind of replaced the hose.

00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.420
<v Ivan>I mean, it looked on there. It looked like it was on.

00:35:22.420 --> 00:35:22.720
<v Sam>Yeah.

00:35:22.900 --> 00:35:23.560
<v Ivan>Right? Yeah.

00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:25.900
<v Sam>Yes. Well, not quite.

00:35:26.200 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Ivan>No, no, no. But it's like if you were, like, 10 feet away, it looked like it was on.

00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.640
<v Sam>Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. If you were 10 feet away, it would look like it was on. Right.

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.680
<v Sam>If you looked carefully, you would realize one end was not fully secure. But, you know.

00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.600
<v Ivan>You know, close enough. It's like horseshoes and hand grenades,

00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:44.620
<v Ivan>you know? Yeah, you know.

00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:50.240
<v Sam>Anyway, so here's my mistake. Well, my next mistake.

00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:54.100
<v Sam>There are many mistakes in this story, and we're not done yet.

00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:57.740
<v Sam>But it was now 7 p.m. or something.

00:35:57.740 --> 00:35:59.500
<v Ivan>Jesus Christ, six hours of this. Okay.

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.460
<v Sam>The auto parts store closes at 8. Closes at 8.

00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:10.120
<v Sam>And at this point, I'm like, maybe those ones with the screw,

00:36:10.460 --> 00:36:13.120
<v Sam>I should have bought them while I was there.

00:36:14.060 --> 00:36:14.620
<v Ivan>Okay.

00:36:15.580 --> 00:36:16.700
<v Sam>And because...

00:36:17.830 --> 00:36:23.230
<v Sam>Maybe they, yeah, they loosen over time, but they'd probably be fine for me

00:36:23.230 --> 00:36:24.090
<v Sam>to drive to the dealership.

00:36:24.110 --> 00:36:25.150
<v Ivan>Here's the other thing that I

00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:28.430
<v Ivan>realized is you told me that you had been in constant contact with Brandy.

00:36:28.930 --> 00:36:33.330
<v Ivan>Brandy is a very do-it-yourself repair person.

00:36:33.770 --> 00:36:38.150
<v Ivan>Yeah. So I'm sure that instead of like, if you would have asked me,

00:36:38.470 --> 00:36:42.730
<v Ivan>which I would have said, get the fucking car, call AAA, put the fucking car

00:36:42.730 --> 00:36:44.090
<v Ivan>in the tow truck, get it over there.

00:36:44.630 --> 00:36:47.210
<v Ivan>Brandy was probably trying to guide you.

00:36:47.990 --> 00:36:53.510
<v Sam>She was encouraging me and being sort of like, she was like impressed that I was even trying.

00:36:53.530 --> 00:36:55.510
<v Ivan>Exactly. So she was impressed that you were trying.

00:36:55.510 --> 00:37:00.450
<v Sam>Because I also, I am also not a do-it-yourself person. My natural inclination would have.

00:37:00.450 --> 00:37:01.710
<v Ivan>The natural is to not, you know.

00:37:03.330 --> 00:37:04.850
<v Sam>But here's the thing too.

00:37:05.050 --> 00:37:10.150
<v Ivan>So the thing is, it's not about being a do-it-yourself person or not, okay?

00:37:10.350 --> 00:37:13.610
<v Ivan>The problem is recognizing the problem, okay?

00:37:13.750 --> 00:37:19.370
<v Ivan>And how bad it is. Because, for example, I, the thing is, I don't.

00:37:19.670 --> 00:37:22.810
<v Sam>You would be immediately like, it's not just a hose. Exactly.

00:37:22.910 --> 00:37:26.630
<v Ivan>I would be immediately, my diagnosis is, this is beyond my skills.

00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:32.770
<v Ivan>Done. No, we're not even trying because I already know from experience,

00:37:32.770 --> 00:37:35.430
<v Ivan>this is beyond my skills. Okay?

00:37:35.650 --> 00:37:39.910
<v Ivan>This thing needs to be towed. There is no reason the car just loses,

00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.930
<v Ivan>you know, a car, you know,

00:37:43.530 --> 00:37:48.750
<v Ivan>the cooling system in modern cars, for any of you that don't know this out there,

00:37:48.990 --> 00:37:50.950
<v Ivan>it's a sealed system. Okay.

00:37:52.390 --> 00:37:54.490
<v Ivan>Unless there is some kind.

00:37:54.610 --> 00:37:55.430
<v Sam>You should never have to add some.

00:37:55.490 --> 00:38:01.690
<v Ivan>You should never, ever need to add fluid. So unless there is some kind of leak

00:38:01.690 --> 00:38:07.670
<v Ivan>or failure, the water pump failed, the main gasket failed, the hose failed,

00:38:07.910 --> 00:38:09.950
<v Ivan>something failed in the system,

00:38:10.270 --> 00:38:14.930
<v Ivan>you shouldn't need to add water at any point in time, okay?

00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:21.150
<v Ivan>And the worst thing is that if the water is not visible, so say,

00:38:21.390 --> 00:38:27.890
<v Ivan>hey, you're low, but it's not visible, okay? It means that it's something bad.

00:38:28.830 --> 00:38:34.450
<v Ivan>It's really bad. Because one thing is, hey, you get to the front of the car

00:38:34.450 --> 00:38:36.690
<v Ivan>and you see all the water running out.

00:38:37.090 --> 00:38:42.490
<v Ivan>You know immediately, hey, the radiator broke, hose popped off.

00:38:43.150 --> 00:38:47.970
<v Ivan>No big deal. You can just replace those in a second. But if it's low and you

00:38:47.970 --> 00:38:52.410
<v Ivan>go look and you don't see any of it, that's when it's really bad.

00:38:53.830 --> 00:38:58.070
<v Sam>So anyway to continue the story i realized

00:38:58.070 --> 00:39:00.930
<v Sam>the hose had popped off when i went to add the oil i never

00:39:00.930 --> 00:39:09.190
<v Sam>did add the oil by the way at least now you got oil yeah well the oil did eventually

00:39:09.190 --> 00:39:13.270
<v Sam>get added just not by me we'll continue oh by the way i should mention by this

00:39:13.270 --> 00:39:18.270
<v Sam>point by this point at least twice good samaritans had stopped by to see what

00:39:18.270 --> 00:39:19.490
<v Sam>i was doing and see if they okay.

00:39:19.490 --> 00:39:20.750
<v Ivan>Well that's good nice.

00:39:20.750 --> 00:39:23.610
<v Sam>So nice so like what good one guy

00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:26.610
<v Sam>came one guy came by and was like oh i've

00:39:26.610 --> 00:39:29.250
<v Sam>replaced this hose a few times myself here's a

00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:33.490
<v Sam>trick to get the tension thing and he tried to try the trick he's like because

00:39:33.490 --> 00:39:38.850
<v Sam>you can you can use zip ties to sort of grab it and help pull it together and

00:39:38.850 --> 00:39:43.270
<v Sam>he tried to do that and he did that and he spent like 15 minutes with me like

00:39:43.270 --> 00:39:47.170
<v Sam>working with it and he's the one who's sort of like hey this wrench they gave

00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:48.890
<v Sam>you the first time yeah so sucks.

00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:49.630
<v Ivan>This is not good.

00:39:49.810 --> 00:39:53.710
<v Sam>It's, it's, it's broken. It's bad. It's like, take this back, get a different one.

00:39:54.050 --> 00:39:58.750
<v Sam>And then another guy came by and also sort of looked in and helped and,

00:39:58.750 --> 00:40:00.490
<v Sam>and taught, he didn't really like help, help.

00:40:00.590 --> 00:40:03.310
<v Sam>He didn't get his hands dirty, like the first guy, but he, he,

00:40:03.470 --> 00:40:06.670
<v Sam>he like, you know, came by and was like encouraging.

00:40:06.690 --> 00:40:09.590
<v Sam>I don't know what he was, but anyway, like at least twice, just,

00:40:09.990 --> 00:40:13.110
<v Sam>you know, random people coming by the parking lot came by to help.

00:40:14.130 --> 00:40:17.110
<v Sam>so anyway so at this point

00:40:17.110 --> 00:40:20.110
<v Sam>after i got the oil at the gas station and the hose popped

00:40:20.110 --> 00:40:23.870
<v Sam>off it's 7 p.m the parts

00:40:23.870 --> 00:40:29.530
<v Sam>shop closes at 8 i i i could have gone back and gotten those the the ones with

00:40:29.530 --> 00:40:34.930
<v Sam>the screws but here's the thing you know we we talked a little bit earlier in

00:40:34.930 --> 00:40:40.610
<v Sam>the show about autism now we can talk about mine i was in an autistic spiral

00:40:40.610 --> 00:40:43.530
<v Sam>at this point because here's the deal.

00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:50.690
<v Sam>Like if I had never tried at all, if I had originally just said I'm calling

00:40:50.690 --> 00:40:52.710
<v Sam>triple A, we're done here.

00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:57.390
<v Sam>Then I would have been, you know, AAA would have picked me up in an hour or

00:40:57.390 --> 00:40:58.510
<v Sam>whatever. We would have been cool.

00:40:58.890 --> 00:41:02.610
<v Sam>But because I had started to try to get this damn hose on.

00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:07.310
<v Ivan>You were like on a mission from God to get this damn hose on.

00:41:07.910 --> 00:41:12.810
<v Sam>That's right. And I could not think of anything else.

00:41:13.790 --> 00:41:17.950
<v Sam>So I kept trying over and over and over again. And I'm like,

00:41:18.050 --> 00:41:21.010
<v Sam>the auto parts store is closing in 15 minutes.

00:41:21.190 --> 00:41:25.390
<v Sam>The auto parts store is closing in 10 minutes. I'm like, I should stop this

00:41:25.390 --> 00:41:29.050
<v Sam>and go get the other brackets because with the brackets and a screwdriver,

00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:30.710
<v Sam>I might actually be able to do this.

00:41:31.330 --> 00:41:34.470
<v Sam>But no, I kept trying and trying, trying. The auto parts store closed.

00:41:35.070 --> 00:41:36.950
<v Sam>I kept trying and trying and trying and trying.

00:41:38.470 --> 00:41:42.610
<v Sam>I once again got it to sort of the best I could possibly do.

00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:49.110
<v Sam>I drove it a few hundred feet across the thing again to the mall.

00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:55.710
<v Sam>It did pop off again, which was not unexpected. I did. I knew I hadn't gotten it on any tighter.

00:41:56.270 --> 00:42:01.130
<v Sam>I I'm talking, I I'm talking to my wife again. The parade is now over.

00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:07.430
<v Sam>She, so, and, and, and, and she's like, are you going to call triple a at this point?

00:42:07.790 --> 00:42:10.090
<v Sam>I'm like, I don't know if I can. what.

00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:10.790
<v Ivan>Do you mean you don't know.

00:42:10.790 --> 00:42:16.550
<v Sam>If you can well cause I'm in this autistic spiral I can't stop okay I can't

00:42:16.550 --> 00:42:25.070
<v Sam>stop I'm like I gotta do this and so like so anyway,

00:42:26.230 --> 00:42:31.070
<v Sam>she she's like yeah do you need my help i'm like i think yes,

00:42:33.890 --> 00:42:36.330
<v Sam>okay um like an uber so send.

00:42:36.330 --> 00:42:37.090
<v Ivan>Me where you are.

00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:42.430
<v Sam>No no so actually she had taken the train up north my daughter had picked her

00:42:42.430 --> 00:42:51.110
<v Sam>up okay so what she did was she she she my daughter picked her up They went

00:42:51.110 --> 00:42:53.250
<v Sam>home again, left my daughter at home.

00:42:55.170 --> 00:43:00.530
<v Sam>She went and found someplace that sold the screw things.

00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:04.730
<v Sam>And she got some at a local store.

00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:09.190
<v Sam>Now, it wasn't an auto parts store. I think these were the ones actually meant

00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:11.070
<v Sam>for, like, dryer hoses or something.

00:43:11.310 --> 00:43:16.510
<v Ivan>I'm like, oh, my God, she got some. Great. Now we're down to using house parts

00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:19.230
<v Ivan>for a car. Okay, good, good, good.

00:43:19.970 --> 00:43:20.850
<v Sam>We're heading in the.

00:43:20.850 --> 00:43:22.810
<v Ivan>Right direction here yes there you go.

00:43:22.810 --> 00:43:27.050
<v Sam>And so anyway,

00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:32.910
<v Sam>so she gets that and then comes to me now with all the round trips and back

00:43:32.910 --> 00:43:37.750
<v Sam>and forth by the time she gets to me and she brings Alex with her because Alex

00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:40.010
<v Sam>wanted to witness this to make fun of his dad,

00:43:41.370 --> 00:43:45.810
<v Sam>good man good man because he loves to mock me for things like this good man

00:43:45.810 --> 00:43:51.370
<v Sam>yes anyway by the time they got By the time they got to me, it was about 10 p.m.

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:54.890
<v Ivan>Oh, my God. Holy shit.

00:43:55.270 --> 00:44:00.570
<v Ivan>You see, this is the reason I said that that moment, the one moment of clarity

00:44:00.570 --> 00:44:03.670
<v Ivan>that you had this whole day, I'll go eat lunch.

00:44:06.130 --> 00:44:09.050
<v Ivan>That was the one moment that I said you had clarity because,

00:44:09.410 --> 00:44:13.850
<v Ivan>fuck, if you had not, by this moment, you would have been just dying.

00:44:14.710 --> 00:44:19.870
<v Sam>Yes. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So I, I, I, and, and, you know,

00:44:20.010 --> 00:44:25.410
<v Sam>I went to, there was a Red Robin in the mall. I went to the Red Robin, had a nice burger.

00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:26.410
<v Ivan>There you go. Nice.

00:44:26.690 --> 00:44:31.310
<v Sam>Nice burger. Yeah. So anyway, she got there.

00:44:31.910 --> 00:44:36.290
<v Sam>She, she brings the rings. She brings like some other tools.

00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:41.230
<v Sam>She, she tries for a few minutes to do it the same way I had been doing it.

00:44:41.310 --> 00:44:42.950
<v Sam>She's like, you're right. Can't do this.

00:44:43.570 --> 00:44:46.330
<v Sam>It's not going to work. but let's try

00:44:46.330 --> 00:44:49.310
<v Sam>these okay so we get those

00:44:49.310 --> 00:44:55.070
<v Sam>on it and and and it you know she does this of course she did yeah at this at

00:44:55.070 --> 00:45:00.450
<v Sam>this point she's taken over because i'd been trying for hours and hours now

00:45:00.450 --> 00:45:05.250
<v Sam>i admit towards the end of this i began to be defeated and in between tries

00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:07.510
<v Sam>i would just go sit in the car for 15 minutes,

00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.200
<v Sam>And then I'm like, okay, I'm going to try again. You know?

00:45:12.600 --> 00:45:17.660
<v Sam>Because at this point also, I'm sore. I've been using muscles I've never used before.

00:45:18.380 --> 00:45:21.660
<v Ivan>I mean, well, it wasn't hot outside at least, right?

00:45:22.060 --> 00:45:25.420
<v Sam>It was hot. Well, it was hot to me.

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Ivan>What was the temperature?

00:45:27.060 --> 00:45:28.140
<v Sam>It was like 80.

00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:31.460
<v Ivan>Shit. Okay. So it was kind of, yeah, that was kind of warm for you.

00:45:31.540 --> 00:45:33.620
<v Ivan>Okay. Yeah. Out there all day, 80 degrees.

00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:38.020
<v Ivan>But remember, it's not just 80 degrees in the sun and doing work.

00:45:38.020 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Sam>Yeah yeah yeah and do physical yes

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.160
<v Sam>okay yeah where and physical work

00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:47.000
<v Sam>where i'm like to squeeze this thing together to get

00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Sam>the ring open you're you're exerting quite a bit

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.720
<v Sam>of force not just you know yeah

00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:55.540
<v Sam>i was like fighting with this

00:45:55.540 --> 00:46:00.120
<v Sam>thing for hours and hours and hours okay anyway

00:46:00.120 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Sam>we get the hoses on we we get the hose on

00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.080
<v Sam>properly we get the clamps on it seems pretty secure

00:46:06.080 --> 00:46:09.780
<v Sam>we add we add more fluids back in just

00:46:09.780 --> 00:46:12.740
<v Sam>in case you know whatever she puts

00:46:12.740 --> 00:46:20.120
<v Sam>the oil in you know because of course it was also okay yeah and and and it definitely

00:46:20.120 --> 00:46:25.460
<v Sam>needed oil as well um what was the last time you got the car serviced it was

00:46:25.460 --> 00:46:30.900
<v Sam>it was uh it was a thousand miles overdue for the for the thousand overdue.

00:46:31.060 --> 00:46:31.740
<v Ivan>A thousand.

00:46:33.460 --> 00:46:34.060
<v Sam>About.

00:46:34.340 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Ivan>You know, for a 150,000 mile car, that's a lot.

00:46:40.220 --> 00:46:44.040
<v Sam>Well, you know, okay, fine.

00:46:44.300 --> 00:46:50.380
<v Sam>Anyway, I had made a note that I had hit the number that I should be calling

00:46:50.380 --> 00:46:52.660
<v Sam>them, and I kept forgetting.

00:46:54.040 --> 00:47:00.640
<v Sam>And so, yeah. Anyway, so we're like, okay, let's Let's try this.

00:47:02.230 --> 00:47:08.250
<v Sam>Because the dealership where we were going to drop it off, about 20 miles away,

00:47:08.930 --> 00:47:12.250
<v Sam>about 20 miles away, we made it about 10.

00:47:12.630 --> 00:47:13.990
<v Ivan>And what happened at the 10?

00:47:14.410 --> 00:47:17.210
<v Sam>So we did make it 10 miles before it started overheating.

00:47:17.210 --> 00:47:19.870
<v Ivan>Okay, so the hose stayed on.

00:47:21.910 --> 00:47:28.090
<v Sam>Yeah, after it started overheating again, we carefully chose our route to not

00:47:28.090 --> 00:47:29.650
<v Sam>have to go over any of the bridges.

00:47:29.650 --> 00:47:37.510
<v Sam>We were going to go extra distance to not risk being immobilized on a bridge. Right.

00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:43.510
<v Sam>So at the moment it overheated, I took the next exit. We found like a parking

00:47:43.510 --> 00:47:45.350
<v Sam>place at some elementary school somewhere.

00:47:46.430 --> 00:47:49.330
<v Sam>And I popped the hood and the hoses did stay on.

00:47:49.510 --> 00:47:50.350
<v Ivan>Go brandy.

00:47:50.410 --> 00:47:51.430
<v Sam>But it was still overheating.

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:52.270
<v Ivan>Go brandy.

00:47:53.110 --> 00:47:56.790
<v Sam>Yes, go brandy. Absolutely. But it was still overheating. So obviously,

00:47:57.010 --> 00:48:00.090
<v Sam>as you said at the very beginning, something else was going on.

00:48:00.230 --> 00:48:03.250
<v Sam>It wasn't just the split hose or whatever, right?

00:48:04.730 --> 00:48:09.130
<v Sam>And it's quite possible, by the way, that the hose wasn't split the first time I added fluid.

00:48:09.310 --> 00:48:13.470
<v Ivan>No, what probably happened is at some point after it overheated a couple of

00:48:13.470 --> 00:48:21.550
<v Ivan>times, this is like a resultant thing that happened because of the overheat that the hose split.

00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:25.770
<v Ivan>But this wasn't the source of the problem. This was a secondary problem.

00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:35.370
<v Sam>Yes so anyway at this point it's like after midnight we're in the parking lot,

00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:43.630
<v Sam>i finally call triple a 11 hours later it takes two hours for triple a to get to us,

00:48:44.350 --> 00:48:49.790
<v Sam>triple a takes the car away you know takes it takes it to my dealer that you

00:48:49.790 --> 00:48:54.030
<v Sam>know i've got I've gotten all the services and repairs and blah, blah, blah.

00:48:56.110 --> 00:49:02.850
<v Sam>So they, they, they, they, they text me in the morning to let me know what was going on.

00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:05.890
<v Sam>So let me see. Okay.

00:49:06.910 --> 00:49:10.110
<v Sam>Was your initial diagnosis correct?

00:49:10.530 --> 00:49:15.450
<v Sam>Let me read you what the person said. His name is Carlos, by the way.

00:49:15.690 --> 00:49:17.310
<v Sam>Carlos has worked with me for years.

00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:20.250
<v Sam>Sam, not good news, man.

00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:26.070
<v Sam>The oil is mixing with coolant from the car running hot.

00:49:26.890 --> 00:49:33.190
<v Sam>This indicates internal engine gasket failure or possibly a major engine component

00:49:33.190 --> 00:49:35.410
<v Sam>failure, cylinder head or block.

00:49:35.950 --> 00:49:42.950
<v Sam>The next step would be engine disassembly. Maybe time to move on from this car?

00:49:43.710 --> 00:49:46.090
<v Ivan>So I was right. It's exactly what I said.

00:49:46.210 --> 00:49:46.450
<v Sam>You were right.

00:49:47.110 --> 00:49:51.430
<v Ivan>These cars, unfortunately, I know you had a Subaru, but unfortunately,

00:49:51.810 --> 00:49:58.030
<v Ivan>unfortunately, yes, Subarus over the last 15, 20 years have gotten a really

00:49:58.030 --> 00:50:01.610
<v Ivan>bad reputation because they all fail in this same way.

00:50:02.530 --> 00:50:07.230
<v Sam>And from what I understand, like, from conversations a few years ago,

00:50:07.350 --> 00:50:14.970
<v Sam>not like right now, the particular years surrounding the 2012 were particularly bad for this problem.

00:50:15.790 --> 00:50:19.430
<v Sam>Like, I gather it's, you said they're still having the problem,

00:50:19.530 --> 00:50:21.110
<v Sam>but I gather it was worse.

00:50:21.250 --> 00:50:24.470
<v Ivan>Well, one thing is, obviously, what do we know about the recent ones?

00:50:24.670 --> 00:50:26.630
<v Ivan>Like, you know, I don't know. They're not that old.

00:50:26.670 --> 00:50:27.730
<v Sam>Yeah, because they're not old enough.

00:50:27.730 --> 00:50:34.650
<v Ivan>But the reality is that they haven't really, really, really redesigned that engine that much. Okay?

00:50:34.970 --> 00:50:40.630
<v Ivan>So it's not like they've done something major to make this not happen again. Okay?

00:50:41.870 --> 00:50:47.130
<v Ivan>So, yeah. And that's the reason why I mentioned about why this was catastrophic.

00:50:48.050 --> 00:50:53.090
<v Ivan>Because you didn't see the damn water outside. Right.

00:50:53.910 --> 00:50:58.990
<v Ivan>The only fucking way it could be is it's because it's mixing up with the fucking engine oil.

00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:01.930
<v Ivan>OK, that's the only place where it could be.

00:51:02.290 --> 00:51:06.470
<v Ivan>OK, there is no other place it's going. It's not, you know, it's not disappearing.

00:51:06.950 --> 00:51:12.310
<v Ivan>It's going into the engine. It's mixing with the oil that turns it into.

00:51:13.330 --> 00:51:18.550
<v Ivan>Man, it looks like a milkshake when it's in there, unfortunately.

00:51:18.550 --> 00:51:26.010
<v Sam>And so, so the bottom line, the best case scenario, and the worst just goes

00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:29.850
<v Sam>up for that, would be like seven grand to deal with this thing.

00:51:30.030 --> 00:51:30.530
<v Ivan>How much?

00:51:30.670 --> 00:51:31.590
<v Sam>The car is not worth.

00:51:31.630 --> 00:51:32.350
<v Ivan>How much is the car?

00:51:32.450 --> 00:51:37.530
<v Sam>It's not worth even remotely close to seven. So basically, I'd be lucky if it's worth a thousand.

00:51:37.530 --> 00:51:39.330
<v Ivan>You've got to junk it. You've got no choice.

00:51:39.330 --> 00:51:46.290
<v Sam>You know, because here, like, look, not only is it a 2012 Subaru Impreza,

00:51:46.410 --> 00:51:51.110
<v Sam>it's a 2012 Subaru Impreza where the backseat has been eaten by rats and not replaced.

00:51:51.870 --> 00:51:55.450
<v Sam>So, like, it's, well, not entirely, but there's a hole.

00:51:55.590 --> 00:51:56.230
<v Ivan>There's a hole.

00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:02.130
<v Sam>Like, we put a seat, at a certain point, we decided it's not worth fixing the

00:52:02.130 --> 00:52:05.070
<v Sam>backseat because that would cost $3,000. We'll put a seat cover on.

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Sam>And I've been good about putting in, like, the little rat repellent and stuff

00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.900
<v Sam>every few months. Well, I haven't been good right now. Well,

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Sam>oh, well, it doesn't matter anymore.

00:52:15.600 --> 00:52:18.860
<v Sam>Anyway, so, like, yeah, I'd be lucky if the damn thing's worth $1,000.

00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Sam>You know, I'd probably have to pay to get the thing, like, taken away.

00:52:22.740 --> 00:52:26.020
<v Sam>You know, I mean, there might be some parts that it could be sold for.

00:52:26.080 --> 00:52:30.020
<v Sam>I don't know. But, like, it's probably. I will probably have to pay to take it.

00:52:30.020 --> 00:52:33.220
<v Ivan>The car is worth junk value at this point. They'll take it because,

00:52:33.300 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Ivan>look, if your doors are in, you know, if your doors are in decent shape.

00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:45.740
<v Sam>The hood, nothing's in decent shape. This is me you're talking about.

00:52:45.740 --> 00:52:49.740
<v Ivan>I mean, what I'm saying, are they rusted through, you know, or something?

00:52:50.220 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Sam>Probably not rusted through.

00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.500
<v Ivan>Well, that's what I'm saying. You know, somebody has got to beat her car,

00:52:55.720 --> 00:52:58.520
<v Ivan>wants a hood, you know, whatever.

00:52:59.000 --> 00:52:59.240
<v Sam>Gotcha.

00:52:59.240 --> 00:53:00.640
<v Ivan>You know, I mean.

00:53:01.180 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Sam>You know, they're not pretty. Everything's scratched.

00:53:04.560 --> 00:53:08.140
<v Ivan>No, well, they're going to have to paint it, whatever. But if it's if it's not

00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Ivan>rusted through, somebody needs to use.

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.080
<v Sam>I've got tape permanently attached in various places.

00:53:13.260 --> 00:53:19.320
<v Ivan>OK, so basically. Sam is cooked. Sam is once again cooked another car.

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Sam>Just just to just to be clear that taped, not because I'm like holding parts

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.240
<v Sam>of the car together, taped because at one point or another.

00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:33.220
<v Sam>Well, at one point, Alex bought some stuff at Lowe's that didn't fit inside

00:53:33.220 --> 00:53:36.540
<v Sam>the car, and so he attached it to the car with scotch tape.

00:53:36.540 --> 00:53:39.460
<v Ivan>Can I give you the worst news? Can I give you the worst news?

00:53:39.520 --> 00:53:39.740
<v Sam>Yes.

00:53:40.120 --> 00:53:43.540
<v Ivan>If you would have called me immediately when this happened—.

00:53:45.430 --> 00:53:46.650
<v Sam>You would have told me.

00:53:46.890 --> 00:53:51.030
<v Ivan>No, I would have told you to stop immediately because I suspect that it has

00:53:51.030 --> 00:53:53.290
<v Ivan>to be the head gas. And here's the thing.

00:53:53.470 --> 00:53:53.710
<v Sam>Yes.

00:53:53.970 --> 00:53:58.370
<v Ivan>Can I tell you the worst news? That if you probably had stopped driving at that moment.

00:53:58.390 --> 00:53:59.310
<v Sam>I might have made it worse.

00:53:59.610 --> 00:54:00.870
<v Ivan>No, you didn't. No, no, no.

00:54:00.870 --> 00:54:01.750
<v Sam>You didn't. I probably made it worse.

00:54:01.850 --> 00:54:04.250
<v Ivan>You made it worse. Unfortunately.

00:54:04.470 --> 00:54:04.630
<v Sam>Yes.

00:54:04.710 --> 00:54:06.570
<v Ivan>So if you had stopped at that moment.

00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:08.350
<v Sam>And immediately got in tow.

00:54:08.390 --> 00:54:15.330
<v Ivan>Immediately got in tow. It may, may have been salvageable. But, but, but.

00:54:15.910 --> 00:54:16.530
<v Sam>Probably not.

00:54:16.590 --> 00:54:20.850
<v Ivan>Probably not because the problem is you still have to replace the head gasket,

00:54:21.070 --> 00:54:25.050
<v Ivan>which means tearing apart the engine, which means a couple of thousand dollar job.

00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:31.630
<v Ivan>And if the car's not worth, you know, the car's probably still not worth the repair.

00:54:31.730 --> 00:54:35.070
<v Ivan>One of the things is that these cars used don't get a lot of money.

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:38.750
<v Ivan>Don't get a lot of money because everybody is.

00:54:39.550 --> 00:54:45.890
<v Sam>We already, a few years ago, once, put more money into it than it was worth

00:54:45.890 --> 00:54:49.390
<v Sam>just to keep it going a few more years. Doing it again makes no sense.

00:54:49.570 --> 00:54:51.010
<v Ivan>Not with this, no.

00:54:51.610 --> 00:54:51.850
<v Sam>No.

00:54:52.030 --> 00:54:57.890
<v Ivan>The moral of the story that I will tell you, here is the moral that I will tell you,

00:54:58.570 --> 00:55:04.070
<v Ivan>is that because of your driving and maintenance record,

00:55:04.730 --> 00:55:08.250
<v Ivan>my suggestion is whatever the

00:55:08.250 --> 00:55:11.890
<v Ivan>fuck car you buy right now please for the love of God make it be a Toyota,

00:55:12.950 --> 00:55:18.730
<v Ivan>and I will tell you why look this isn't listen this isn't listen,

00:55:19.550 --> 00:55:25.070
<v Ivan>fucking Toyotas this shit doesn't happen and not just that but they will they

00:55:25.070 --> 00:55:29.390
<v Ivan>allow themselves to get abused and still be rescued anyway because the cars

00:55:29.390 --> 00:55:31.270
<v Ivan>are it's a resale value thing,

00:55:31.930 --> 00:55:36.350
<v Ivan>fucking Subarus have gotten such a bad rap over the years for this shit that

00:55:36.350 --> 00:55:40.950
<v Ivan>the resale value of the used ones is zero because everybody knows that their

00:55:40.950 --> 00:55:44.770
<v Ivan>engines are a ticking time bomb waiting to go off okay,

00:55:45.850 --> 00:55:51.850
<v Ivan>but but a used toyota like this with these miles and this age probably without

00:55:51.850 --> 00:55:56.450
<v Ivan>the rad hopefully you know it looks like that would have been seven thousand

00:55:56.450 --> 00:55:59.410
<v Ivan>dollars eight thousand dollars,

00:55:59.990 --> 00:56:05.190
<v Ivan>You know, at that age, they just hold value so much more because people know

00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:09.230
<v Ivan>even if a psychopath like you, who knows nothing about maintenance,

00:56:09.810 --> 00:56:13.010
<v Ivan>gets a hold of one of these, they won't be able to destroy it.

00:56:13.890 --> 00:56:18.610
<v Sam>Yeah, so, I don't know. Like, I don't particularly like the Toyota, so we'll see.

00:56:18.610 --> 00:56:22.050
<v Ivan>Who cares about liking the car? I don't give a shit about you liking the car.

00:56:22.250 --> 00:56:27.450
<v Ivan>I want you to get a fucking Toyota Prius.

00:56:28.030 --> 00:56:31.990
<v Ivan>Okay? You know why? Because you will not break it.

00:56:33.250 --> 00:56:34.670
<v Ivan>You will not break it.

00:56:34.670 --> 00:56:34.990
<v Sam>Anyway.

00:56:35.830 --> 00:56:43.070
<v Ivan>A Corolla Hybrid. Whatever. But you will not break this fucking thing.

00:56:43.070 --> 00:56:45.150
<v Ivan>And that is like my primary goal.

00:56:45.330 --> 00:56:47.470
<v Ivan>My primary goal is not for you to like it.

00:56:47.730 --> 00:56:52.970
<v Ivan>My primary goal is for you to go A to B, that if you forget your oil interval

00:56:52.970 --> 00:56:58.210
<v Ivan>by 3,000 miles, the car won't give a shit. Because that's how Toyotas are.

00:56:58.870 --> 00:57:02.230
<v Ivan>That's the reality. Listen, you will go through all the records.

00:57:02.410 --> 00:57:06.150
<v Ivan>You see, you know, I keep watching all these videos of people with car repair.

00:57:06.290 --> 00:57:09.650
<v Ivan>The reason I know about this is because I watch so many of these that I knew

00:57:09.650 --> 00:57:10.810
<v Ivan>that this is a common problem.

00:57:11.310 --> 00:57:15.330
<v Ivan>But the one thing that you watch in all of these, the common thread is that

00:57:15.330 --> 00:57:17.370
<v Ivan>they got some guy that's like you,

00:57:17.590 --> 00:57:23.050
<v Ivan>but was driving a Corolla and they went 5,000 miles over the service and they

00:57:23.050 --> 00:57:26.750
<v Ivan>go in, they bring the car and they're like, motherfucker. It's like the car didn't care.

00:57:27.090 --> 00:57:29.470
<v Ivan>It just kept going. It didn't matter.

00:57:29.910 --> 00:57:32.870
<v Ivan>And you want to keep your car for 300,000 miles.

00:57:33.970 --> 00:57:41.170
<v Sam>Well, actually, my own, I mean, that would be ideal. My only criteria is I drive until this happens.

00:57:41.530 --> 00:57:43.410
<v Ivan>Yes. But I would like it to be as long as possible before this happens.

00:57:43.410 --> 00:57:46.150
<v Ivan>So the reality is that the only manufacturer

00:57:46.150 --> 00:57:55.110
<v Ivan>that makes a vehicle that can withstand your use case is Toyota.

00:57:55.730 --> 00:57:58.230
<v Ivan>I don't think you're understanding this.

00:57:58.970 --> 00:58:03.450
<v Ivan>You don't really have an option. Unless you just like to go through this shit,

00:58:03.450 --> 00:58:05.510
<v Ivan>I guess. Well, it makes for good content.

00:58:06.370 --> 00:58:12.090
<v Sam>It makes for good content. And it has been, what, 2012? And I think I actually

00:58:12.090 --> 00:58:14.130
<v Sam>bought it at the end of 2011.

00:58:14.910 --> 00:58:17.310
<v Sam>So what, that's 14 years? That's not bad.

00:58:17.310 --> 00:58:23.030
<v Ivan>But it's only 150,000 miles, Sam. It really isn't that many miles. Not for a modern car.

00:58:23.730 --> 00:58:27.390
<v Ivan>You know, I mean, I'm sorry. But, you know, like, I got rid of,

00:58:27.530 --> 00:58:33.330
<v Ivan>you know, like, my BMW that has a, well, the thing is, the BMWs have a reputation for braking more.

00:58:33.430 --> 00:58:36.730
<v Ivan>But the reality is that because I'm a pain in my ass, you know,

00:58:36.810 --> 00:58:41.390
<v Ivan>like, I got rid of it with 170,000 miles, okay, you know, for example.

00:58:41.450 --> 00:58:46.730
<v Ivan>But, you know, but a modern car going 200,000 miles isn't really like it used

00:58:46.730 --> 00:58:48.250
<v Ivan>to be that was like an outlier.

00:58:48.990 --> 00:58:51.970
<v Ivan>it has become far more common like with

00:58:51.970 --> 00:58:56.890
<v Ivan>hondas toyotas even a number of like gm products but a lot of them the problem

00:58:56.890 --> 00:59:01.270
<v Ivan>is that they're massively gas guzzling like chevy silverados or something like

00:59:01.270 --> 00:59:04.650
<v Ivan>that that you know i mean you know you're getting like gallons for the mile

00:59:04.650 --> 00:59:08.990
<v Ivan>and it's like not really conducive yeah so like.

00:59:08.990 --> 00:59:12.970
<v Sam>Look we we may talk more more car shopping.

00:59:12.970 --> 00:59:20.150
<v Ivan>Well because you have to go to the office. You need a car.

00:59:20.390 --> 00:59:22.430
<v Sam>Yes. I need a car.

00:59:22.570 --> 00:59:24.350
<v Ivan>I mean, like, you need a car like right away.

00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.600
<v Sam>This week, I already made an excuse and said, hey, my car's in the shop.

00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:32.680
<v Sam>I'm going to work from home for the next few days. And it was a holiday week.

00:59:34.520 --> 00:59:41.160
<v Sam>I need, you know, Monday, I need to be in the office. Now, that does not mean I need a car.

00:59:41.240 --> 00:59:45.240
<v Ivan>But you can take the train. You're going to have to fucking take the train for a little bit.

00:59:46.200 --> 00:59:53.060
<v Sam>I'm going to have to get rides, take the train, take the bus.

00:59:53.060 --> 00:59:58.280
<v Sam>I will have to take one of those modes of operation that I have complained about

00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:02.660
<v Sam>in the past being horribly inconvenient, but I've got no choice.

01:00:02.780 --> 01:00:06.680
<v Sam>So I'm going to have to do that for a little while because I also don't want to rush.

01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:13.120
<v Sam>Like, is it physically possible that I could go out tomorrow and have a car by Monday? Yeah.

01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Ivan>This would be very simple if you just took the fucking common sense advice,

01:00:17.540 --> 01:00:24.340
<v Ivan>which is don't go anywhere. Go to Toyota and get a fucking Prius.

01:00:25.200 --> 01:00:27.140
<v Ivan>Don't even think about it.

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.300
<v Ivan>Go get a fucking Prius. That's it.

01:00:32.500 --> 01:00:37.520
<v Ivan>You don't need any. By the way, the new Prius, by the way, looks really cool.

01:00:37.640 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Sam>Is improved?

01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Ivan>No, no, no, no, not just improved. It looks.

01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:42.300
<v Sam>Not the outside. I hated the interior.

01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Ivan>The interior is improved. The exterior is improved. How it drives is improved.

01:00:46.540 --> 01:00:49.300
<v Ivan>The mileage is improved. right now it's rated as one

01:00:49.300 --> 01:00:52.220
<v Ivan>of the best fucking cars there is it's not

01:00:52.220 --> 01:00:54.940
<v Ivan>like before it was kind of like no no no no no

01:00:54.940 --> 01:00:57.980
<v Ivan>this car now is a really fucking

01:00:57.980 --> 01:01:06.580
<v Ivan>nice car it's cheap reliable and economical you cannot you know because i know

01:01:06.580 --> 01:01:11.200
<v Ivan>that for you i'm like not saying get an electric car because you will be stranded

01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Ivan>without a battery in like inside like i don't know i don't think.

01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:22.380
<v Sam>No no i I definitely would go that direction if I could. I'm not worried about the battery.

01:01:22.420 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Ivan>Well, you've got a Prius Prime. Here's the thing. I'll tell you what.

01:01:26.120 --> 01:01:30.540
<v Ivan>The Prius Prime gets you 50, 60 miles on plug-in.

01:01:31.380 --> 01:01:34.940
<v Ivan>The great thing about the Prius Prime is that even when it's not on battery,

01:01:35.020 --> 01:01:41.820
<v Ivan>unlike some plug-in hybrids, it still gets excellent mileage that some don't. But that one does.

01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:48.660
<v Ivan>And it's bulletproof. The cars are fucking bulletproof. You just need a bulletproof car.

01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.420
<v Ivan>Just go get a fucking Prius. Just stop fucking digging around.

01:01:54.420 --> 01:01:56.860
<v Ivan>Just don't, you know. I can't remember.

01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.360
<v Ivan>Now from the slack. It's not. I think Ed and Ed have a Prius.

01:02:03.180 --> 01:02:05.720
<v Sam>I think several people have had Prius.

01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:06.520
<v Ivan>And they all love them.

01:02:06.660 --> 01:02:09.020
<v Sam>Bob just got that Ionic.

01:02:09.120 --> 01:02:12.780
<v Ivan>He likes the Ionic. The Ionic 5 is really cool. There's some really great deals on it.

01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:17.340
<v Ivan>You know, the only thing about the Ionic is that it's not the same thing.

01:02:17.340 --> 01:02:21.100
<v Ivan>you just had Prius yeah but no but the reason is because I know because here's

01:02:21.100 --> 01:02:24.300
<v Ivan>the thing Toyota build quality is still far better than Hyundai,

01:02:25.330 --> 01:02:29.790
<v Ivan>Okay, period. That's it. That's the reason. And right now, what I want is like

01:02:29.790 --> 01:02:32.190
<v Ivan>something that is bulletproof.

01:02:33.490 --> 01:02:36.430
<v Ivan>And Toyota build quality is still the best out there.

01:02:36.670 --> 01:02:42.350
<v Ivan>There's just no, you know, every time that I see some old Toyota,

01:02:42.630 --> 01:02:44.830
<v Ivan>people come in and it's like, holy shit.

01:02:44.830 --> 01:02:50.730
<v Ivan>But, you know, it's just, they are just so reliable that, you know,

01:02:51.030 --> 01:02:57.530
<v Ivan>for you, I would say, get a fucking Prius. They're cheap.

01:02:59.230 --> 01:03:04.070
<v Sam>Cheap is important, too. Like, my ideal price right now would be zero.

01:03:04.070 --> 01:03:05.270
<v Ivan>Oh, well, you know.

01:03:05.690 --> 01:03:10.170
<v Sam>Now, but I know zero is not possible.

01:03:10.690 --> 01:03:16.190
<v Sam>I had been, like, for the last few months, keeping my eye on those Ionics,

01:03:16.330 --> 01:03:17.670
<v Sam>because they do look cool. They do look cool.

01:03:18.130 --> 01:03:20.970
<v Sam>But, like, size-wise...

01:03:20.970 --> 01:03:24.190
<v Ivan>Listen, the Ionic is a good... The Ionics is...

01:03:24.190 --> 01:03:28.590
<v Sam>By the way, just saying, the Impreza, perfect size for me.

01:03:28.790 --> 01:03:33.130
<v Sam>Like, I don't want much smaller, I don't want much bigger. So, close to that size.

01:03:33.350 --> 01:03:37.750
<v Ivan>The Prius is very close to that size. Yeah. You know...

01:03:37.750 --> 01:03:39.790
<v Sam>And so is the Ionic. The Ionic's a little...

01:03:39.790 --> 01:03:42.290
<v Ivan>The Ioniq is a little bit bigger because it's more like a little wagon.

01:03:42.770 --> 01:03:45.850
<v Ivan>John. John has a Prius that he loves as well.

01:03:47.810 --> 01:03:52.270
<v Sam>Anyway, so we'll be poking around. And, like, yeah, the Ioniq is also,

01:03:52.430 --> 01:03:55.230
<v Sam>like, price range would be stretched.

01:03:55.370 --> 01:03:57.610
<v Ivan>Well, that's the thing. Whereas the Prius, it's cheap.

01:03:59.290 --> 01:04:03.870
<v Sam>Could probably manage it, but would have to be really sure about it.

01:04:04.190 --> 01:04:07.490
<v Sam>And also, like, you know, I'm not going to get into details on this stuff,

01:04:07.610 --> 01:04:13.130
<v Sam>but, like, you know, I'm still not feeling super secure in my employment situation.

01:04:13.130 --> 01:04:18.770
<v Ivan>Toyota Prius, starting MSRP, $28,350. Okay?

01:04:19.010 --> 01:04:23.470
<v Ivan>Here's the other thing about the Prius. I would say, the one reason why it's still— And the.

01:04:23.470 --> 01:04:24.670
<v Sam>Primes you mentioned start at.

01:04:24.670 --> 01:04:25.870
<v Ivan>$33. Exactly. Here's the thing

01:04:25.870 --> 01:04:29.850
<v Ivan>about why the Toyota in the end is cheaper anyway than the Ioniq by miles.

01:04:30.070 --> 01:04:36.230
<v Ivan>It doesn't matter. If you get the plug-in, you're still eligible for the tax

01:04:36.230 --> 01:04:37.410
<v Ivan>credit, okay? Number one.

01:04:37.790 --> 01:04:41.230
<v Ivan>If you lease it, okay, then you could buy it out, whatever. But just to get

01:04:41.230 --> 01:04:43.150
<v Ivan>the tax credit. That's what a lot of people do.

01:04:43.290 --> 01:04:46.790
<v Ivan>Just because it's... By the way, you can still get those until September, okay?

01:04:47.730 --> 01:04:54.970
<v Sam>But remember also, like, I beat the hell out of cars and probably would go over the miles.

01:04:54.970 --> 01:04:55.730
<v Ivan>No, no, no, no.

01:04:55.730 --> 01:04:56.230
<v Sam>No, no, no, no.

01:04:56.230 --> 01:04:59.590
<v Ivan>No. The only reason, listen, you, listen, there are people literally that I

01:04:59.590 --> 01:05:02.130
<v Ivan>heard at VW that were doing this. In order to get the tax credit.

01:05:02.250 --> 01:05:02.830
<v Sam>They buy it immediately.

01:05:03.130 --> 01:05:06.590
<v Ivan>Exactly. They bought, they would lease it and they would buy it out immediately

01:05:06.590 --> 01:05:07.770
<v Ivan>just to get the tax credit.

01:05:08.270 --> 01:05:09.370
<v Sam>Like seconds later.

01:05:09.570 --> 01:05:13.870
<v Ivan>Yes, literally. Back-to-back transactions. Okay? Okay? Literally.

01:05:14.450 --> 01:05:16.530
<v Ivan>And so that saves you $7,500.

01:05:17.610 --> 01:05:21.910
<v Ivan>It's not two bits. Okay? It's a lot of money. All right?

01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.810
<v Ivan>So, so that's important. And since it's going away, by the way,

01:05:25.890 --> 01:05:28.350
<v Ivan>the credit's going away in September.

01:05:29.050 --> 01:05:31.850
<v Ivan>So, I mean, this is the opportunity to get that.

01:05:32.680 --> 01:05:38.720
<v Ivan>And look, man, I'm telling you, I honestly, I love this car. It's a great car.

01:05:39.040 --> 01:05:45.920
<v Ivan>Anybody that has reliable transportation, Prius, fucking get the goddamn Prius. It's fucking great.

01:05:46.460 --> 01:05:49.080
<v Ivan>You know, you will not be unhappy with this.

01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:55.520
<v Ivan>And it will resist your abuse, which is more important than anything.

01:05:56.100 --> 01:05:58.580
<v Ivan>And if you look at the interior in the pictures.

01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.560
<v Sam>But can I easily change the radiator?

01:06:01.560 --> 01:06:03.300
<v Ivan>Ah, you won't have to.

01:06:03.460 --> 01:06:05.100
<v Sam>Because I want to do that like the first week.

01:06:05.140 --> 01:06:07.360
<v Ivan>That's the first thing you're going to do. You're going to spend 12 hours out

01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.960
<v Ivan>there in the heat again, like, you know, inserting yourself to death.

01:06:10.220 --> 01:06:14.780
<v Ivan>If you look at the interior, the interior of this car, unlike before, it looks really nice.

01:06:15.260 --> 01:06:18.440
<v Ivan>Everything is really nice about this car. There's nothing bad about this car.

01:06:18.940 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Ivan>And you know what? Your fuel budget, what you spend on fuel in the first month,

01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:27.380
<v Ivan>I guarantee you will drop like 80%.

01:06:27.380 --> 01:06:32.920
<v Ivan>Because right now, your impress has got to do, what, 20-something miles per

01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Ivan>gallon, maybe, commuting to work?

01:06:35.260 --> 01:06:38.140
<v Sam>I probably lost at this point. It probably did that way.

01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:44.080
<v Ivan>Yeah, so not even, okay? This will get 70, 80 miles per gallon.

01:06:44.080 --> 01:06:48.140
<v Ivan>So you're going to be saving, probably, because you're driving now,

01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Ivan>how far is your commute every day?

01:06:51.500 --> 01:06:53.020
<v Sam>About 25 miles.

01:06:53.120 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Ivan>So 50 miles round trip. I mean, think about this, okay?

01:06:57.380 --> 01:07:02.680
<v Ivan>you're doing 250, you're doing 1,000 miles, you know, oh God,

01:07:02.820 --> 01:07:09.300
<v Ivan>1,000 miles divided by 20, which is 50 gallons, 50 gallons times about over $3,

01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:13.400
<v Ivan>150, close to $200 a month on gas.

01:07:13.780 --> 01:07:17.040
<v Ivan>This thing will save you $150 on fuel easily a month.

01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:23.720
<v Ivan>Just so whatever you're thinking about, you're going to save $150 on fuel at least a month.

01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:25.960
<v Sam>Anyway,

01:07:27.430 --> 01:07:31.550
<v Sam>We've been going a long time. We have like no time left for like news stuff.

01:07:31.850 --> 01:07:37.350
<v Sam>But we will probably discuss more car options on the Curmudgeons course Slack.

01:07:37.430 --> 01:07:40.150
<v Sam>I won't mention it there until this episode is out.

01:07:40.370 --> 01:07:45.330
<v Ivan>Look at all this shit. Look, it's cool. It drives. It's economical. It's reliable.

01:07:45.610 --> 01:07:48.870
<v Ivan>What the fuck else you want? And it's cheap. This is the one thing I keep getting.

01:07:49.050 --> 01:07:53.630
<v Ivan>People going to the dealership. Well, we can't find a car for less than $50,000.

01:07:54.030 --> 01:07:59.250
<v Ivan>No, no, no. You can. man, all you idiots just want to spend too much money.

01:07:59.770 --> 01:08:03.290
<v Ivan>It used to be in the past that to get a nice car, oh, I have to,

01:08:03.470 --> 01:08:07.410
<v Ivan>some features or whatever. You have to buy the luxury car. You have to buy the whatever.

01:08:07.650 --> 01:08:10.530
<v Ivan>One of the things I'm having a discussion this week is that a lot of the mainstream

01:08:10.530 --> 01:08:16.030
<v Ivan>cars now have so many of the features that used to be only exclusive to luxury cars.

01:08:17.550 --> 01:08:21.670
<v Sam>You know, wait a second. Is this, is this, wait. Oh, it just,

01:08:21.790 --> 01:08:23.030
<v Sam>is the handle just hidden?

01:08:23.210 --> 01:08:26.250
<v Ivan>What do you mean the handle? It's a short knob. It's a short knob.

01:08:26.590 --> 01:08:29.110
<v Ivan>It's not hidden. It's a stubby knob.

01:08:29.210 --> 01:08:34.230
<v Sam>Looking at the Prius Prime from a distance, it looks like it didn't have a back door.

01:08:34.310 --> 01:08:35.050
<v Ivan>Oh, no, no, it's a hatchback.

01:08:35.270 --> 01:08:37.930
<v Sam>It didn't have a back handle. Well, yeah, I see that.

01:08:37.930 --> 01:08:41.610
<v Ivan>All the cars now have the handles hidden in the back. They're all hidden in

01:08:41.610 --> 01:08:43.810
<v Ivan>a little thing. Modern thing.

01:08:44.530 --> 01:08:44.970
<v Sam>Weird.

01:08:45.090 --> 01:08:53.070
<v Ivan>It's not weird. Almost every modern car has that damn thing hidden in the back. Under the lip. Yeah.

01:08:53.150 --> 01:08:53.450
<v Sam>Under the lip.

01:08:53.450 --> 01:09:02.410
<v Ivan>Like my wife's crv is that way my car is that way my my literally almost every oh i i.

01:09:02.410 --> 01:09:05.250
<v Sam>See the thing maybe i don't know anyway.

01:09:05.250 --> 01:09:09.750
<v Ivan>Yeah oh so now anyway now now the decision will be made we will talk more on

01:09:09.750 --> 01:09:11.230
<v Ivan>the curmudgeon score slack after.

01:09:11.230 --> 01:09:13.330
<v Sam>This is out yes what what are you.

01:09:13.330 --> 01:09:18.570
<v Ivan>Laughing at now of course the key buying decision will be the it's right under

01:09:18.570 --> 01:09:22.150
<v Ivan>the toyota logo it's right right by the right by the rear view camera.

01:09:22.530 --> 01:09:25.710
<v Ivan>There you go. I can see it. There you go. In the back.

01:09:26.550 --> 01:09:30.830
<v Ivan>There's a little in the back door. Oh, no, they're on the top right.

01:09:31.030 --> 01:09:33.690
<v Ivan>No, no, no, no, no. The door handles are...

01:09:33.690 --> 01:09:34.630
<v Sam>Yeah, I found it.

01:09:34.830 --> 01:09:36.050
<v Ivan>I found it. It's just weird.

01:09:36.070 --> 01:09:36.970
<v Sam>It's not enough.

01:09:37.830 --> 01:09:38.330
<v Ivan>Aerodynamic!

01:09:38.710 --> 01:09:39.890
<v Sam>Anyway. Oh.

01:09:40.290 --> 01:09:44.650
<v Ivan>Save fuel! Save the fucking planet! I know that the Republicans are,

01:09:44.690 --> 01:09:48.770
<v Ivan>you know, just passed a bill that said, let's kill the fucking planet, bitches!

01:09:49.570 --> 01:09:51.470
<v Ivan>We won't be here then anyway!

01:09:52.170 --> 01:09:53.410
<v Sam>Okay, okay.

01:09:53.830 --> 01:09:57.690
<v Ivan>The new GOP slogan. 2026.

01:09:57.690 --> 01:10:02.390
<v Sam>So yes for anybody interested in giving me on advice on this chime in under

01:10:02.390 --> 01:10:08.430
<v Sam>curmudgeons corner slack probably like i said i we will probably do some looking

01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:13.350
<v Sam>at cars and i will look at a prius as and i'll probably also look at an ionic

01:10:13.350 --> 01:10:16.410
<v Sam>although it's probably spendy for me right now but.

01:10:16.410 --> 01:10:19.370
<v Ivan>But you gotta remember the 7500 it looks cool you

01:10:19.370 --> 01:10:22.150
<v Ivan>gotta remember the 7500 credit it okay you got

01:10:22.150 --> 01:10:24.970
<v Ivan>whatever you do the thing that you do that i'm

01:10:24.970 --> 01:10:27.930
<v Ivan>telling you the thing that you make sure you make sure to take that make

01:10:27.930 --> 01:10:31.570
<v Ivan>sure you take that in the account and the way that you buy it out is

01:10:31.570 --> 01:10:36.910
<v Ivan>quite simple recently i took you you joined the credit union that that the part

01:10:36.910 --> 01:10:41.950
<v Ivan>of they offer excellent financing for these all you do is very simple you do

01:10:41.950 --> 01:10:45.730
<v Ivan>the lease at the store you take that paperwork you apply to their credit union

01:10:45.730 --> 01:10:49.050
<v Ivan>you want to buy out the lease you get the amount for the buyout you send it

01:10:49.050 --> 01:10:51.310
<v Ivan>to them they'll do all the paperwork boom boom boom and all of a sudden,

01:10:51.510 --> 01:10:54.290
<v Ivan>it's done. And you get your $7,500.

01:10:55.470 --> 01:10:59.070
<v Ivan>Don't fuck around. I'll lose it. Do not, do not, do not.

01:10:59.310 --> 01:11:02.810
<v Ivan>If you're going to get one of these, it qualifies it. Do not do the fuckable.

01:11:03.010 --> 01:11:06.950
<v Ivan>No, I don't want to lease. No, fuck that. You lease it and you turn around and

01:11:06.950 --> 01:11:09.210
<v Ivan>you fucking finance it immediately.

01:11:09.670 --> 01:11:14.970
<v Sam>Okay. We will talk more, Yvonne, offline and on the Slack. And if anybody else

01:11:14.970 --> 01:11:16.770
<v Sam>wants to give me advice, do it on the Slack.

01:11:16.970 --> 01:11:21.650
<v Sam>We will look at some cars this weekend, but we'll almost surely not actually

01:11:21.650 --> 01:11:23.490
<v Sam>buy this weekend, maybe next weekend.

01:11:23.870 --> 01:11:30.250
<v Sam>So, ah, of course the other possibility, I could just get like a really old

01:11:30.250 --> 01:11:31.910
<v Sam>beater, just as old as the one I have.

01:11:31.930 --> 01:11:37.090
<v Ivan>Sure. And that will like last. Well, if it's an old beater Toyota, maybe. Sure.

01:11:37.910 --> 01:11:41.630
<v Sam>Get like a 20 year old Toyota, replace the 15 year old Subaru.

01:11:42.290 --> 01:11:45.870
<v Ivan>A 20 year old Camry. I mean, they said that, you know, the earth,

01:11:46.030 --> 01:11:48.270
<v Ivan>you know, you know, they, they will probably survive the flood.

01:11:50.650 --> 01:11:52.870
<v Sam>Okay, shall we actually take a break?

01:11:52.870 --> 01:11:53.870
<v Ivan>Yes, and let's talk about something.

01:11:54.090 --> 01:11:57.290
<v Sam>Maybe spend 20, 30 minutes about something else and then wrap it up.

01:11:57.790 --> 01:12:03.670
<v Sam>Okay, here we go. It is, which break is it? It is this break.

01:12:03.850 --> 01:12:06.210
<v Sam>The one and only break this time, I think. Here we go.

01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:48.140
<v Sam>Okay, we are back. So what do you want to talk about? I talked about a car for

01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:49.680
<v Sam>an hour, so it's your turn.

01:12:50.480 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Ivan>What do we want to talk about? Let's see what happened this week. I mean,

01:12:55.280 --> 01:13:02.260
<v Ivan>the only subject that we really left on there is the fact that the Republicans

01:13:02.260 --> 01:13:06.460
<v Ivan>passed up the big stupid bill.

01:13:07.060 --> 01:13:09.740
<v Ivan>I mean, and that's really about the only thing.

01:13:09.740 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Sam>The one big, beautiful bill. One Big Beautiful Bill, which, by the way,

01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.260
<v Sam>they made the actual title of the bill.

01:13:18.420 --> 01:13:21.220
<v Sam>It's not just Trump saying it. I mean, it was Trump saying it,

01:13:21.220 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Sam>but then they made it the title of the bill.

01:13:23.260 --> 01:13:28.340
<v Ivan>I mean, it's just the entire spectacle was disgusting.

01:13:29.780 --> 01:13:39.020
<v Ivan>It is painfully clear from many that so many of the Republicans themselves hated

01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:42.460
<v Ivan>this bill. But they were all scared of going against Donald.

01:13:42.740 --> 01:13:44.740
<v Ivan>That's it. Nothing else.

01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:53.280
<v Ivan>I mean, this bill doesn't really... I mean, it's...

01:13:55.420 --> 01:14:00.760
<v Ivan>The only people that benefit is people that make a lot of money tax-wise.

01:14:01.460 --> 01:14:03.260
<v Ivan>Everybody else gets screwed.

01:14:04.020 --> 01:14:11.540
<v Ivan>Everything else gets screwed. Oh, and we did this incredibly ridiculous increase in ICE funding.

01:14:12.770 --> 01:14:13.490
<v Sam>Massive.

01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:19.250
<v Ivan>Ten times. We're giving ICE ten times the budget it had before,

01:14:19.590 --> 01:14:22.550
<v Ivan>which is absolutely just insane.

01:14:23.790 --> 01:14:27.550
<v Ivan>By the way, how crazy is this?

01:14:27.730 --> 01:14:35.430
<v Ivan>All the polling shows, 70% of people, are unhappy with this immigration campaign

01:14:35.430 --> 01:14:37.830
<v Ivan>as it has been rolled out the last few months.

01:14:38.150 --> 01:14:43.510
<v Ivan>Polling shows huge numbers of people against it. But that's what they put in the bill.

01:14:44.170 --> 01:14:49.010
<v Ivan>Second thing, because the Republicans have realized that they could just say

01:14:49.010 --> 01:14:53.490
<v Ivan>any lie, and most of their supporters will believe it.

01:14:53.950 --> 01:14:59.270
<v Ivan>They keep saying that this cuts the deficit, whereas this will significantly increase the deficit.

01:14:59.750 --> 01:15:05.890
<v Ivan>This bill is anything about—it actually does a whole bunch of things that stifle

01:15:05.890 --> 01:15:07.810
<v Ivan>jobs, not actually create jobs.

01:15:07.810 --> 01:15:15.390
<v Ivan>because there is no funding in here, for example, to incentivize any job creation.

01:15:15.730 --> 01:15:18.490
<v Ivan>I mean, it's all trickle-down shit again.

01:15:19.850 --> 01:15:24.070
<v Ivan>The funding bill cuts healthcare for a lot of people.

01:15:24.270 --> 01:15:29.970
<v Ivan>And by the way, but more cynically, delays the healthcare cuts until a couple

01:15:29.970 --> 01:15:31.250
<v Ivan>of years later so people,

01:15:31.530 --> 01:15:37.870
<v Ivan>because to convince our gullible electorate that the republicans didn't do it

01:15:37.870 --> 01:15:44.430
<v Ivan>so then if they lose they can blame the democrats for their health care cuts how cynical is that.

01:15:44.430 --> 01:15:47.430
<v Sam>Yes that and not

01:15:47.430 --> 01:15:52.250
<v Sam>only the health care cuts but other things are also delayed to after midterms

01:15:52.250 --> 01:15:59.210
<v Sam>uh basically basically anything that could have a negative effect that people

01:15:59.210 --> 01:16:04.390
<v Sam>would feel right away well not anything but lots of things with negative effects

01:16:04.390 --> 01:16:07.390
<v Sam>that people are delayed until after midterms.

01:16:07.790 --> 01:16:12.410
<v Sam>Whereas, of course, the things that they really want, you know,

01:16:12.490 --> 01:16:15.790
<v Sam>like the ICE funding, which will also have a negative effect on a lot of people.

01:16:16.110 --> 01:16:19.430
<v Sam>But just saying, those things come into play much more quickly.

01:16:19.570 --> 01:16:20.590
<v Ivan>So I'm just...

01:16:20.590 --> 01:16:22.390
<v Sam>And the tax stuff.

01:16:22.390 --> 01:16:25.210
<v Ivan>So it's just, I mean...

01:16:27.470 --> 01:16:32.010
<v Ivan>Here, the biggest problem about this is that just like before,

01:16:33.670 --> 01:16:40.170
<v Ivan>You know, these tax cuts to the rich don't translate into any economic boost.

01:16:40.550 --> 01:16:45.570
<v Ivan>They never have. We've gone through this before already. We've tried this before.

01:16:46.270 --> 01:16:49.870
<v Ivan>W did it. Trump did it. Reagan did it.

01:16:50.350 --> 01:16:56.930
<v Ivan>None of these things translate into any general economic benefit.

01:16:56.930 --> 01:17:05.010
<v Ivan>And Biden showed very clearly that if you do give money to, you know,

01:17:05.130 --> 01:17:10.670
<v Ivan>people like in the from poverty to one to two times the poverty line,

01:17:10.930 --> 01:17:14.790
<v Ivan>that that money does translate directly into economic impact.

01:17:14.910 --> 01:17:18.510
<v Ivan>OK, for for the economy, because those people are the ones that are most in need.

01:17:18.550 --> 01:17:25.090
<v Ivan>And when they get that money, they spend it right away because they need it. OK, they needed it.

01:17:25.550 --> 01:17:29.450
<v Ivan>But this bill does the total opposite. It's going to make those people poor

01:17:29.450 --> 01:17:33.690
<v Ivan>while, you know, giving money to the rich.

01:17:34.730 --> 01:17:38.550
<v Ivan>And by the way, forget about this. At the same time, we're talking about all

01:17:38.550 --> 01:17:41.970
<v Ivan>this tariff policy, which it appears that Trump is, you know,

01:17:42.210 --> 01:17:45.950
<v Ivan>unless the courts finally decide on whether all these tariffs are illegal,

01:17:46.110 --> 01:17:48.350
<v Ivan>which that is still in some kind of holding pattern.

01:17:48.510 --> 01:17:50.970
<v Ivan>I'm not sure where that case is still still going through.

01:17:50.970 --> 01:17:54.870
<v Sam>All of these legal things will take a long time.

01:17:54.990 --> 01:18:01.750
<v Ivan>Right now, Sam was asking me about the impact of tariffs and why haven't we

01:18:01.750 --> 01:18:05.110
<v Ivan>seen them, and I was mentioning how difficult it is to gauge the timeline.

01:18:05.630 --> 01:18:09.950
<v Ivan>Goldman Sachs came out with a note recently specifically talking about this

01:18:09.950 --> 01:18:12.110
<v Ivan>that I had shared on the Slack.

01:18:12.590 --> 01:18:17.950
<v Ivan>They basically said, listen, guys, these are going to happen.

01:18:18.190 --> 01:18:24.390
<v Ivan>This is inflationary. This will take inflation back to levels that we had two years ago, okay?

01:18:25.130 --> 01:18:26.810
<v Ivan>There is no...

01:18:27.750 --> 01:18:33.350
<v Ivan>It's just it's just it's hard to go and tell you exactly.

01:18:33.570 --> 01:18:38.210
<v Ivan>But their note said tariffs have not yet meaningfully affected broader inflation

01:18:38.210 --> 01:18:45.090
<v Ivan>data, but the levies will soon cause inflation to shoot back up to the highest level since 2023.

01:18:45.770 --> 01:18:49.410
<v Ivan>OK, that's the analysis from Goldman Sachs economists.

01:18:49.650 --> 01:18:55.030
<v Ivan>Not exactly a whole bunch of left wing psychopaths over there at Goldman Sachs last time I checked.

01:18:55.030 --> 01:18:58.530
<v Ivan>okay so no no

01:18:58.530 --> 01:19:01.310
<v Ivan>no it's not a no no i i i

01:19:01.310 --> 01:19:04.670
<v Ivan>know it's hard to believe so that's

01:19:04.670 --> 01:19:10.950
<v Ivan>the thing like right now you've got i mean you're making poor people poor with

01:19:10.950 --> 01:19:16.990
<v Ivan>health care and all these other cuts of whatever and at the same time you've

01:19:16.990 --> 01:19:21.750
<v Ivan>done all of this that's going to make inflation go back to where it was a couple of years ago.

01:19:22.590 --> 01:19:26.130
<v Ivan>I mean, this is a fucking, this is a disaster.

01:19:28.430 --> 01:19:35.410
<v Ivan>And, oh, but the other big issue. Yeah, we're increasing funding of ICE by this much, right?

01:19:35.970 --> 01:19:37.850
<v Ivan>What is that going to do to the labor market?

01:19:39.830 --> 01:19:42.290
<v Sam>Because, well, you're going to hire a lot of ICE agents.

01:19:42.650 --> 01:19:48.150
<v Ivan>Apparently, we're going to hire a lot of ICE agents in order to basically reduce

01:19:48.150 --> 01:19:52.670
<v Ivan>the pool of available labor on the other side,

01:19:52.670 --> 01:19:57.870
<v Ivan>which will have a negative effect on economic growth and will also be inflationary.

01:19:59.170 --> 01:20:05.410
<v Ivan>I mean, this entire thing is the worst combination of everything.

01:20:05.830 --> 01:20:14.470
<v Ivan>And by the way, many Republicans know this and have said so in private. They know this.

01:20:14.570 --> 01:20:14.750
<v Sam>Right.

01:20:15.030 --> 01:20:20.190
<v Ivan>And these fuckers just followed this idiot off the cliff,

01:20:21.700 --> 01:20:27.600
<v Ivan>It's just, you know, and people are dumb. You know what? The other day I heard

01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Ivan>somebody, and I have to explain this again, and they didn't realize.

01:20:30.780 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Ivan>I heard somebody say, you know, they know that all this is bad.

01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.320
<v Ivan>And you know what they asked me? Well, why didn't the Democrats stop it?

01:20:38.200 --> 01:20:42.380
<v Ivan>And I'm like, okay, do you under? Okay. And I have to explain.

01:20:42.380 --> 01:20:44.380
<v Ivan>I said, without being condescending.

01:20:44.980 --> 01:20:50.200
<v Ivan>Okay. I don't think you understand. But the Republicans control the House,

01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:52.320
<v Ivan>the Senate, and the presidency.

01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:57.320
<v Ivan>The Democrats cannot stop anything unless some Republicans join them.

01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.260
<v Ivan>Really? Yes, really.

01:21:00.900 --> 01:21:03.860
<v Ivan>But Sam, so many people.

01:21:05.100 --> 01:21:12.360
<v Ivan>You know, it's like the same people that told me, well, why didn't the Democrats save abortion?

01:21:13.140 --> 01:21:18.580
<v Sam>It's, I'm sorry, if you'd wanted that. You needed Hillary in 2016.

01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:22.200
<v Ivan>But even still, how, why did they, I mean, we haven't, you know,

01:21:22.280 --> 01:21:27.260
<v Ivan>like I said, and the only time that the fucking Democrats have had a filibuster

01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:31.220
<v Ivan>proof majority was so brief in the last 30 years.

01:21:32.220 --> 01:21:33.380
<v Sam>And they used that for.

01:21:33.480 --> 01:21:38.740
<v Ivan>They gave us all healthcare. You know what? The thing is that I keep going to

01:21:38.740 --> 01:21:46.680
<v Ivan>how stupid our electorate is because it's just, it's is so difficult to see cause and effect,

01:21:46.900 --> 01:21:50.600
<v Ivan>the Democrats, when they held all the levers of power,

01:21:51.540 --> 01:21:56.320
<v Ivan>gave us the biggest improvement in health care since Medicare was passed.

01:21:57.280 --> 01:21:57.700
<v Ivan>Yeah.

01:21:57.980 --> 01:21:58.920
<v Sam>In the 1960s.

01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.740
<v Ivan>They gave us the, Sam, they gave us the biggest improvement in the average health

01:22:03.740 --> 01:22:07.780
<v Ivan>care of every American since Medicare was passed.

01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:10.780
<v Ivan>And people don't understand that's what they did.

01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:16.340
<v Sam>And by the way, also in the probably people don't fully understand and won't

01:22:16.340 --> 01:22:21.080
<v Sam>for a while, if ever, is that this thing that just passed this week undoes a

01:22:21.080 --> 01:22:22.340
<v Sam>significant part of that.

01:22:22.340 --> 01:22:29.140
<v Sam>like not directly but by reducing funding for the medicare expansion a lot of

01:22:29.140 --> 01:22:34.520
<v Sam>that is going to go away there's you know it and and of course they're all gaslighting

01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Sam>this too like there's like oh we're not touching yeah we're just cutting.

01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:38.660
<v Ivan>Them off the money.

01:22:38.660 --> 01:22:44.400
<v Sam>You know right and and oh we're it's only we're getting rid of fraud and abuse

01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Sam>no there are significant cuts the estimates are like Yeah, over 10 million people

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.300
<v Sam>will lose access to health care.

01:22:52.300 --> 01:22:57.020
<v Ivan>Now, here's the one thing. Now, but over a few years. 10 million people lose it.

01:22:57.480 --> 01:23:01.540
<v Ivan>That is still better than when we were before the ACA. Okay?

01:23:01.780 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Sam>Yeah.

01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:02.800
<v Ivan>That is still better.

01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:03.200
<v Sam>Yeah.

01:23:03.740 --> 01:23:07.000
<v Ivan>But still, all they did is make it worse.

01:23:07.700 --> 01:23:11.040
<v Ivan>Everything they do just makes shit worse. I don't fucking, I mean,

01:23:11.140 --> 01:23:12.980
<v Ivan>for the average American,

01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:17.180
<v Ivan>every time these guys pass some legislation, they

01:23:17.180 --> 01:23:19.960
<v Ivan>make I mean what is it that they do

01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:24.560
<v Ivan>to me I don't fucking Sam I don't fucking understand this how the hell could

01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:32.380
<v Ivan>these guys just get away with at every turn at every turn make the average American's

01:23:32.380 --> 01:23:37.860
<v Ivan>life worse and people don't get it they don't get it but.

01:23:37.860 --> 01:23:42.040
<v Sam>Yvonne they're gonna get rid of all the criminal.

01:23:42.040 --> 01:23:46.060
<v Ivan>Rapist Mexicans criminal rapist Mexicans you know all the.

01:23:46.060 --> 01:23:49.780
<v Sam>Gangs and and they'll make it easier for you to get.

01:23:49.780 --> 01:23:51.660
<v Ivan>Come ah oh.

01:23:51.660 --> 01:23:56.160
<v Sam>Did did you see one of one of the important things in this in this bill that

01:23:56.160 --> 01:23:58.700
<v Sam>just passed no sales tax on.

01:23:58.700 --> 01:24:03.000
<v Ivan>Silencers i know that's how could wait how could they regulate sales tax at

01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.140
<v Ivan>the state at a state level i don't what what i.

01:24:06.140 --> 01:24:08.200
<v Sam>I don't know i don't i heard that i could be wrong.

01:24:08.200 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Ivan>I'm sorry.

01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:12.420
<v Sam>I i i think they did.

01:24:12.820 --> 01:24:16.240
<v Ivan>Well, I mean, that sounds weird because, I mean, sales tax is a,

01:24:16.240 --> 01:24:18.740
<v Ivan>you know, state and local thing.

01:24:20.020 --> 01:24:25.120
<v Sam>Let's see. Oh, it's the tax stamps on silencers.

01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:27.300
<v Ivan>Yeah, because they're federal tax stamps.

01:24:27.460 --> 01:24:28.420
<v Sam>Tax stamps, not sales tax.

01:24:28.500 --> 01:24:29.720
<v Ivan>That's what you bought. Like, okay, all right.

01:24:31.340 --> 01:24:32.440
<v Sam>Are going to do it.

01:24:32.500 --> 01:24:34.360
<v Ivan>Yeah, not sales tax. Okay, all right. That'd make no sense.

01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:37.800
<v Sam>It's some tax. It's some tax. Yeah, well, okay. I was close.

01:24:38.260 --> 01:24:40.440
<v Ivan>Okay, but that's fair to be good at the right tax.

01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:41.960
<v Sam>But this is important.

01:24:42.660 --> 01:24:48.360
<v Ivan>You're reducing the price of silencers. I mean, they take away health care to

01:24:48.360 --> 01:24:50.460
<v Ivan>give you gut silencers, Sam!

01:24:50.860 --> 01:24:52.840
<v Ivan>The hell's wrong with these people?

01:24:58.350 --> 01:25:01.030
<v Sam>And this is another one of those things i mean

01:25:01.030 --> 01:25:04.890
<v Sam>we've talked one ongoing theme on this show is

01:25:04.890 --> 01:25:12.210
<v Sam>how you know you just talked about how the electorate just doesn't know what's

01:25:12.210 --> 01:25:17.830
<v Sam>going on there's there's part of that this basic education about civics knowing

01:25:17.830 --> 01:25:21.710
<v Sam>how government works and then another big part that we have talked about a lot

01:25:21.710 --> 01:25:24.090
<v Sam>is the democratic is the inability,

01:25:24.730 --> 01:25:29.070
<v Sam>Well, Democratic messages, but I was just going to say the inability to process delayed reaction.

01:25:30.850 --> 01:25:38.090
<v Sam>This bill is another bill that will have implications going out over the course of an entire decade.

01:25:38.650 --> 01:25:42.510
<v Sam>Some things will hit right away. Some things will hit after a couple years.

01:25:42.810 --> 01:25:48.670
<v Sam>Some things will hit after five or six years. Now, that does potentially mean

01:25:48.670 --> 01:25:53.850
<v Sam>that some future Congress and some future administration could undo it before

01:25:53.850 --> 01:25:55.550
<v Sam>we get to the end of the 10 years.

01:25:55.770 --> 01:26:04.770
<v Sam>But as passed, this has timed effects going out over an entire decade.

01:26:05.070 --> 01:26:09.790
<v Sam>And they specifically backload some of the things.

01:26:09.790 --> 01:26:18.130
<v Sam>You know, so some random thing hits in 2030, how many people are going to connect the dots and be,

01:26:18.350 --> 01:26:25.210
<v Sam>this is because of who I elected back in 2024, six years ago, you know?

01:26:26.230 --> 01:26:32.290
<v Sam>I mean, even those of us who pay lots of attention, it's hard to always connect

01:26:32.290 --> 01:26:39.490
<v Sam>those dots of like, oh, yeah, this is happening because of that law that was passed seven years ago.

01:26:40.510 --> 01:26:42.370
<v Sam>you know, or whatever.

01:26:43.550 --> 01:26:56.010
<v Sam>I'll also note there is significant undoing of a lot of the act with all the

01:26:56.010 --> 01:27:00.010
<v Sam>subsidies for renewable energies.

01:27:00.110 --> 01:27:05.970
<v Ivan>Now, a number of them, at least, they gave them time. They didn't do, like, abruptly.

01:27:07.130 --> 01:27:09.670
<v Ivan>Projects need to get kicked off by 2026.

01:27:09.670 --> 01:27:11.310
<v Sam>Some of them were cut out by the Senate.

01:27:12.090 --> 01:27:16.110
<v Ivan>And, you know, so they've got time to kick off some projects and certain things.

01:27:16.790 --> 01:27:19.690
<v Ivan>So at least the Senate didn't go and, like, end them abruptly.

01:27:19.890 --> 01:27:23.650
<v Ivan>The one that ends the quickest is the car credit.

01:27:23.910 --> 01:27:26.050
<v Ivan>That was set for September.

01:27:27.310 --> 01:27:31.510
<v Sam>September. So, yeah, back to my car thing. If I'm going to do something.

01:27:31.830 --> 01:27:34.090
<v Ivan>Do it now. Yeah, you have to.

01:27:36.450 --> 01:27:42.490
<v Ivan>But the car credit goes away by September. But there were others like for clean

01:27:42.490 --> 01:27:47.110
<v Ivan>energy projects, I think they gave them a deadline of like 2026 that they had

01:27:47.110 --> 01:27:51.310
<v Ivan>to get started by and some others like that, that they delayed certain deadlines.

01:27:51.490 --> 01:27:55.290
<v Ivan>And like, like you mentioned, some of the health care cuts didn't start until 2027.

01:27:55.570 --> 01:28:00.990
<v Ivan>So after midterms, they were very, this was pure political calculation.

01:28:01.950 --> 01:28:10.290
<v Sam>Yes. And, you know, even some of them, like, some Republicans in Congress have

01:28:10.290 --> 01:28:15.850
<v Sam>implied, well, like, Susan Murkowski or whatever, when she voted for the Senate.

01:28:16.030 --> 01:28:19.150
<v Ivan>Said she hoped to— You combined Susan Collins with Lisa Murkowski?

01:28:19.150 --> 01:28:19.450
<v Sam>Did I get it wrong?

01:28:20.390 --> 01:28:21.870
<v Ivan>Oh, I did. I did.

01:28:22.150 --> 01:28:22.370
<v Sam>I did.

01:28:23.710 --> 01:28:24.790
<v Ivan>Well, kind of like.

01:28:24.870 --> 01:28:25.910
<v Sam>Well, you know, sure. I combined them.

01:28:26.150 --> 01:28:27.970
<v Ivan>Why not? Same thing.

01:28:27.970 --> 01:28:29.310
<v Sam>Same thing, basically.

01:28:31.390 --> 01:28:36.750
<v Sam>Lisa Murkowski, I think, specifically said that she was not happy with the bill,

01:28:36.950 --> 01:28:40.590
<v Sam>even though she voted for it, but she hoped the House would fix it and it would

01:28:40.590 --> 01:28:41.790
<v Sam>come back to the Senate again.

01:28:42.170 --> 01:28:47.990
<v Sam>Of course, that didn't happen. But off the record, I've heard people reporting

01:28:47.990 --> 01:28:53.170
<v Sam>that at least some Republicans in Congress have been like, don't worry,

01:28:53.250 --> 01:28:56.510
<v Sam>it won't be that bad. At some point, the Democrats will fix some of this.

01:28:57.390 --> 01:29:00.130
<v Ivan>So basically this is what they're okay so this is

01:29:00.130 --> 01:29:03.070
<v Ivan>their thought process okay which it talks about the cynicism of

01:29:03.070 --> 01:29:06.050
<v Ivan>these bastards because we have said this before that

01:29:06.050 --> 01:29:09.190
<v Ivan>they're not interested in fixing anything they're not interested in legislation

01:29:09.190 --> 01:29:13.890
<v Ivan>they're just interested in clicks so this is what you do you pass this whole

01:29:13.890 --> 01:29:19.430
<v Ivan>damn thing that allows you know donald to have his his victory at this political

01:29:19.430 --> 01:29:23.050
<v Ivan>thing or whatever you're allowed to go out there like claim how blah,

01:29:23.150 --> 01:29:24.210
<v Ivan>blah, blah, all this stuff,

01:29:24.410 --> 01:29:32.030
<v Ivan>and you do it knowing full well that a whole bunch of it's going to be undone,

01:29:32.130 --> 01:29:34.910
<v Ivan>so therefore you didn't do it because you wanted to fix anything.

01:29:34.910 --> 01:29:36.570
<v Ivan>You just wanted to do it to score.

01:29:38.230 --> 01:29:39.210
<v Ivan>a political victory.

01:29:39.550 --> 01:29:45.970
<v Sam>I will add to that. I will add to that. If you do have a situation where the

01:29:45.970 --> 01:29:51.650
<v Sam>Democrats get back in power, even partially, like they take the House but not the Senate or wherever,

01:29:52.250 --> 01:29:58.310
<v Sam>and the bad effects start hitting after midterms, you can still blame the Democrats.

01:29:59.350 --> 01:30:05.190
<v Sam>And by the way, if the Democrats do try to fix some of the problems at some

01:30:05.190 --> 01:30:09.090
<v Sam>later point, you can blame them at that point for the problem they're fixing,

01:30:09.570 --> 01:30:11.890
<v Sam>and say they're messing with it. That's why it's bad.

01:30:11.890 --> 01:30:14.270
<v Ivan>Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all their fault. You see, they're fucking around with

01:30:14.270 --> 01:30:19.150
<v Ivan>it. Right, you see? We passed the perfect bill. Now the Democrats are fucking it up.

01:30:19.890 --> 01:30:20.370
<v Sam>Right.

01:30:21.590 --> 01:30:29.290
<v Ivan>Man, this is fucking... I, you know, I just...

01:30:29.290 --> 01:30:33.250
<v Ivan>Yeah, look at shit, like, for example, I love this one, where the Wall Street

01:30:33.250 --> 01:30:39.270
<v Ivan>Journal publishes a story, Wall Street worries as crisis-level deficits have

01:30:39.270 --> 01:30:42.770
<v Ivan>become the government's default mode. Okay, for example.

01:30:43.070 --> 01:30:46.990
<v Ivan>Because this is what that has been instituted. There's a chart that I shared

01:30:46.990 --> 01:30:50.970
<v Ivan>from The Economist that showed that during the Biden administration,

01:30:51.450 --> 01:30:54.190
<v Ivan>unlike what the Republicans have repeatedly claimed.

01:30:55.310 --> 01:31:00.030
<v Ivan>Public debt as a percentage of GDP started going down steeply during the Biden

01:31:00.030 --> 01:31:04.110
<v Ivan>administration, where it had been growing under the Trump administration.

01:31:04.110 --> 01:31:07.390
<v Ivan>It had surged over the pandemic,

01:31:07.690 --> 01:31:12.750
<v Ivan>but Biden had started to make that go down in a double combination because he

01:31:12.750 --> 01:31:15.170
<v Ivan>had helped the economy grow stronger than it had been in a while,

01:31:15.350 --> 01:31:22.030
<v Ivan>while at the same time, you know, spending had been managed in a more prudent way.

01:31:23.030 --> 01:31:25.790
<v Ivan>you know and so this whole

01:31:25.790 --> 01:31:28.790
<v Ivan>thing about the and and the projection is that

01:31:28.790 --> 01:31:31.830
<v Ivan>it's going to go through the roof so you know

01:31:31.830 --> 01:31:35.750
<v Ivan>it's just so frustrating

01:31:35.750 --> 01:31:38.470
<v Ivan>with these people what all they do is

01:31:38.470 --> 01:31:41.310
<v Ivan>just they lie and they just lie about it and

01:31:41.310 --> 01:31:45.330
<v Ivan>lie and lie just oh it's going to cut the deficit oh it's going to do this oh

01:31:45.330 --> 01:31:51.270
<v Ivan>no we're fixing you know the big the headline on the economist story was the

01:31:51.270 --> 01:31:57.450
<v Ivan>big beautiful bill reveals the hollowness of trumponomics and that's I mean

01:31:57.450 --> 01:32:00.290
<v Ivan>that that's really the that's that's the,

01:32:01.240 --> 01:32:04.600
<v Ivan>Plain truth, it's just completely hollow.

01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:10.600
<v Ivan>It's just all bullshit. There is no substance behind any of this whatsoever.

01:32:12.340 --> 01:32:17.680
<v Ivan>Oh, and by the way, good news. Did you see that because of the cuts of the National

01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:25.760
<v Ivan>Weather Service that, you know, our flash flood forecasting has gotten much inferior?

01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:31.660
<v Ivan>And how many people, 20, you know, about 24 people got killed.

01:32:31.940 --> 01:32:35.280
<v Ivan>At least 20 girls attending a summer camp are missing. And there's still a bunch

01:32:35.280 --> 01:32:38.060
<v Ivan>missing. Okay. And by the way, this is not even us.

01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:46.660
<v Ivan>Texas officials basically said this was all due to a bad forecast by the National Weather Service.

01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:54.440
<v Ivan>This is what I say. But everything they do kills people, hurts people,

01:32:54.940 --> 01:32:59.560
<v Ivan>hurts the country. I mean, there is what, Sam, what the fuck have they done

01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:01.600
<v Ivan>that helps anybody other than themselves?

01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.840
<v Sam>Well, that's the point. They're helping themselves.

01:33:06.280 --> 01:33:07.940
<v Ivan>They're not even their voters, Sam.

01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:14.340
<v Sam>Oh, I know. I know. What they give their voters is- Own the lips!

01:33:15.620 --> 01:33:20.020
<v Ivan>We banned five transsexual athletes across the country, Sam.

01:33:20.220 --> 01:33:22.080
<v Ivan>Five of them! Look at that! What?

01:33:22.420 --> 01:33:28.500
<v Ivan>We protected all of you from the five transsexual athletes that you were scared of for some reason.

01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:37.360
<v Sam>The culture war stuff and on the libs is is the raw meat that the Republican base gets happy with.

01:33:38.260 --> 01:33:44.140
<v Sam>I saw someone repost some social media post from somebody that said,

01:33:44.320 --> 01:33:48.580
<v Sam>you know, I forget exactly what they were talking about.

01:33:48.580 --> 01:33:54.680
<v Sam>it was pre-fowl, but it was basically like, I'd be willing to pay like $50 for

01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:58.200
<v Sam>my like groceries or whatever, as long as we get rid of all those damn illegal

01:33:58.200 --> 01:34:02.540
<v Sam>immigrants, you know, for like an avocado or something stupid.

01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:03.720
<v Ivan>Like imported. What a fucking liar.

01:34:04.020 --> 01:34:05.300
<v Sam>You know what?

01:34:06.040 --> 01:34:09.900
<v Ivan>You know what? The worst thing about these people, they're just such liars because

01:34:09.900 --> 01:34:12.540
<v Ivan>the moment that they go to the store and they see an avocado at $50,

01:34:13.060 --> 01:34:14.200
<v Ivan>you know what they're going to be doing.

01:34:15.020 --> 01:34:16.780
<v Ivan>They're going to be, they're going to be living.

01:34:17.780 --> 01:34:20.320
<v Ivan>And you know this. It's just ridiculous.

01:34:22.340 --> 01:34:26.700
<v Ivan>So let's see. I'm looking over here. So I found this thing. For example,

01:34:26.820 --> 01:34:29.440
<v Ivan>let's talk about some of the cynical things in the bill.

01:34:30.140 --> 01:34:33.340
<v Ivan>Tax cuts lasting only through Trump's term.

01:34:33.580 --> 01:34:36.380
<v Ivan>Okay, this is a New York Times that a summary of this. Okay,

01:34:36.460 --> 01:34:38.680
<v Ivan>just see how the cynical timelines on this thing.

01:34:40.480 --> 01:34:44.280
<v Ivan>So no tax on overtime only lasts through the end of Trump's term.

01:34:45.180 --> 01:34:48.560
<v Ivan>So look at how they're doing this, right? So if a Democrat wins,

01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:50.140
<v Ivan>what's going to happen? What does it look like?

01:34:51.300 --> 01:34:52.060
<v Sam>What? Sorry. What?

01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:54.300
<v Ivan>Stop typing. Okay.

01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:54.700
<v Sam>I'm sorry.

01:34:55.100 --> 01:34:56.040
<v Ivan>Tax cuts.

01:34:56.120 --> 01:35:00.440
<v Sam>Stop typing. You know, I'm researching the damn part you were talking about.

01:35:00.440 --> 01:35:03.100
<v Ivan>Take a short break because we only got a couple of minutes left.

01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:05.160
<v Ivan>Tax cuts lasting only through Trump's term.

01:35:05.180 --> 01:35:05.340
<v Sam>Okay.

01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:11.900
<v Ivan>Okay. No tax on overtime. Yeah. So think about this. Democrat wins. All of a sudden. Yeah.

01:35:12.040 --> 01:35:12.480
<v Sam>It goes away.

01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:18.640
<v Ivan>No tax on tips. Also. Now, again, same thing. ends no tax on carload.

01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:24.700
<v Sam>No interest i will i will add i will add a lot of people to also all of these

01:35:24.700 --> 01:35:28.400
<v Sam>ones that you're running through if you look into the details of them,

01:35:29.020 --> 01:35:33.480
<v Sam>don't actually help the people who need the most very much because they're they're

01:35:33.480 --> 01:35:38.660
<v Sam>very low limits that you have to be below for them to apply there's some there

01:35:38.660 --> 01:35:41.260
<v Sam>there's some other technical my point is.

01:35:41.260 --> 01:35:43.020
<v Ivan>The cynical timeline okay all right.

01:35:43.020 --> 01:35:44.340
<v Sam>Yes yeah other tracks.

01:35:44.340 --> 01:35:47.260
<v Ivan>Provisions for example but But those end there,

01:35:48.340 --> 01:35:54.980
<v Ivan>you know, I mean, it's just that one that one was the one to me that that really

01:35:54.980 --> 01:35:59.980
<v Ivan>just was just so cynical about how they they would they would go and like do that.

01:36:00.100 --> 01:36:05.960
<v Ivan>But, hey, we'll do it. But, hey, Democrats in power, we can blame them for it immediately.

01:36:06.380 --> 01:36:10.660
<v Ivan>You know, you're going to see. And that's what they're that's what they're negotiating.

01:36:10.660 --> 01:36:18.100
<v Ivan>So anyway, all right, well, we're almost at our usual time. I think we need to be done.

01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.720
<v Sam>We're good. It's time to do the wrap up.

01:36:23.940 --> 01:36:31.500
<v Sam>And then, yeah, I will. I don't know. I have to deal with the damn car thing.

01:36:32.240 --> 01:36:35.220
<v Sam>I really didn't want to right now, but whatever.

01:36:36.540 --> 01:36:42.220
<v Sam>Okay. curmudgeon-quarter.com you can find all our stuff our archives,

01:36:42.460 --> 01:36:44.880
<v Sam>our transcripts all the ways to contact us,

01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:50.940
<v Sam>stuff I still have not linked the TikTok at this point I will next time I mess

01:36:50.940 --> 01:36:54.640
<v Sam>with the site I'll add the TikTok well apparently you shared we.

01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:56.840
<v Ivan>Got a lot of views of the last TikToks.

01:36:57.660 --> 01:37:04.460
<v Sam>Yeah the last TikTok had a few let me see here I posted three videos one of

01:37:04.460 --> 01:37:10.720
<v Sam>them had 145 views One of them had 777, and the third one had 795.

01:37:11.440 --> 01:37:15.240
<v Ivan>I mean, I see one here that you shared on my 780 views on one.

01:37:16.330 --> 01:37:19.090
<v Sam>Well, I just gave you the updated number.

01:37:19.190 --> 01:37:20.370
<v Ivan>The number, you said it sounded lower.

01:37:20.470 --> 01:37:26.210
<v Sam>The one where the three numbers are 145, 777, and 795.

01:37:26.630 --> 01:37:28.030
<v Ivan>Okay, I thought it was 770. Okay.

01:37:29.170 --> 01:37:36.690
<v Sam>795. Yes, and we got comments on two of the three videos, and we got likes on

01:37:36.690 --> 01:37:37.930
<v Sam>all three. Lots of likes.

01:37:39.010 --> 01:37:42.110
<v Sam>You always get a few of those, I guess. Whatever.

01:37:42.450 --> 01:37:49.150
<v Sam>Let's read. OK, so one is the one that got the most is the one where we talked

01:37:49.150 --> 01:37:54.830
<v Sam>about our disappointment in how elected officials.

01:37:55.010 --> 01:37:57.350
<v Sam>Ah, no, I just want the comments. I don't want to play the video.

01:37:57.790 --> 01:38:02.950
<v Sam>Here we go. Comments where we talked about our disappointment in establishment

01:38:02.950 --> 01:38:07.770
<v Sam>Democrats supporting Cuomo and the Mamdani stuff.

01:38:08.890 --> 01:38:13.290
<v Sam>So let's see. Somebody said. Let's do all comments. All comments.

01:38:14.910 --> 01:38:18.110
<v Sam>Somebody said we lost a good representative by getting rid of Franken.

01:38:18.790 --> 01:38:22.590
<v Sam>Because you talked about Franken. Somebody said, I wish I could explain why

01:38:22.590 --> 01:38:25.370
<v Sam>the leadership didn't understand this.

01:38:25.450 --> 01:38:30.110
<v Ivan>Well, I know why. I just, it's stupid reasoning, but I know why.

01:38:30.110 --> 01:38:32.030
<v Ivan>It's just not valid. Okay.

01:38:32.710 --> 01:38:37.810
<v Sam>We got someone saying, and you are both demonstrating critical thinking in real time.

01:38:37.810 --> 01:38:42.830
<v Sam>You are 100% correct to question why the establishment keeps running the absolute

01:38:42.830 --> 01:38:47.370
<v Sam>worst candidates, despite real people turning up in droves to support progressives

01:38:47.370 --> 01:38:52.070
<v Sam>like Bernie and Mamdani, politicians who are actually in line with the party's value.

01:38:52.870 --> 01:38:58.810
<v Sam>We had somebody say that the Dem charade is undeniable now and unsustainable.

01:38:59.610 --> 01:39:05.170
<v Sam>The young people see it so clearly. Exhibit A, support for Cuomo against a popular

01:39:05.170 --> 01:39:07.350
<v Sam>progressive and the progressive wins the primary.

01:39:08.030 --> 01:39:13.990
<v Sam>Establishment Dems need Trump and will continue to just hand wring as he dismantles democracy.

01:39:14.310 --> 01:39:18.770
<v Sam>Hatred fear of Trump is the Dem platform. They can't campaign on the party's

01:39:18.770 --> 01:39:22.130
<v Sam>ideals because they don't benefit the corporate donors.

01:39:22.850 --> 01:39:26.590
<v Sam>Republicans can rally their base and appease corporate donors at the same time

01:39:26.590 --> 01:39:28.170
<v Sam>because they want the same things.

01:39:28.770 --> 01:39:34.750
<v Sam>And then finally, the last comment on this one, Anthony Weiner, 2028. Just kidding.

01:39:34.910 --> 01:39:39.970
<v Ivan>Oh, I'm sure. Just kidding. Are you kidding? I heard, I read somewhere that

01:39:39.970 --> 01:39:41.710
<v Ivan>he was thinking about running for something.

01:39:42.330 --> 01:39:44.670
<v Sam>No, no, no, no. He did run.

01:39:44.790 --> 01:39:47.190
<v Ivan>Oh, he ran for this one. I didn't realize he was a dude.

01:39:48.250 --> 01:39:50.270
<v Sam>And he did not do well.

01:39:50.470 --> 01:39:50.670
<v Ivan>You think?

01:39:51.470 --> 01:39:52.750
<v Sam>I think it was this.

01:39:52.870 --> 01:39:53.790
<v Ivan>I thought it was something else.

01:39:56.350 --> 01:39:59.330
<v Sam>Whatever he ran for, he did very, very badly.

01:39:59.930 --> 01:40:03.550
<v Sam>He got like just a couple percent or something. Anyway, he says,

01:40:03.650 --> 01:40:05.730
<v Sam>just kidding, but we've learned basically nothing.

01:40:06.710 --> 01:40:12.310
<v Sam>is his statement. And for some reason, that was only five, but it says there's

01:40:12.310 --> 01:40:14.470
<v Sam>seven comments. Let me...

01:40:15.480 --> 01:40:18.920
<v Sam>Let me check one more place, see if it's not showing up in one place, but it is the other.

01:40:19.140 --> 01:40:22.300
<v Sam>I don't know. No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We got more comments

01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:25.580
<v Sam>on the other one, too, with people talking about the economy and blah, blah, blah.

01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Sam>Weird. Weird. Oh, does it? I don't know. I don't know why.

01:40:31.660 --> 01:40:36.640
<v Sam>Like, my dashboard here doesn't show all the comments, but there's more elsewhere.

01:40:36.860 --> 01:40:39.360
<v Sam>I don't know. Anyway, that's it for TikTok.

01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.360
<v Sam>And as usual, you can also go to our Patreon and give us money.

01:40:42.360 --> 01:40:48.020
<v Sam>if you like the show and appreciate it and want to help pay for my new car.

01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:57.960
<v Sam>The $25, $27 a month from the Patreon, I'm sure will go a long way towards whatever payment I need.

01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:01.480
<v Sam>Except, of course, we're saving that up for the next meetup.

01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:03.220
<v Sam>So never mind. Never mind.

01:41:03.940 --> 01:41:07.540
<v Sam>Or maybe I'll use it on my car. And that'll be my down payment.

01:41:07.540 --> 01:41:11.500
<v Ivan>There you go. I'll be okay with that. That's fine. You need a car.

01:41:12.700 --> 01:41:15.700
<v Ivan>I'm good with it. Yeah. That's good use of the money.

01:41:15.940 --> 01:41:18.240
<v Sam>Yeah. This month's $25.

01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:21.040
<v Ivan>I support the $25 going towards Sam's down payment.

01:41:25.300 --> 01:41:29.860
<v Sam>Anyway, yeah. Go to our Patreon at various levels. We will mention you on the

01:41:29.860 --> 01:41:32.740
<v Sam>show. We will ring a bell. We will send you a postcard. We will send you a mug.

01:41:33.140 --> 01:41:37.260
<v Sam>And yes, I do still owe several people. I owe a couple postcards.

01:41:37.420 --> 01:41:42.140
<v Sam>I owe a mug, I think. I will eventually get to it. I have it on a list somewhere.

01:41:42.540 --> 01:41:45.800
<v Sam>I just keep never getting to the list, just like oil changes.

01:41:45.980 --> 01:41:46.960
<v Ivan>Yeah, I noticed.

01:41:47.500 --> 01:41:50.120
<v Sam>So, you know, when I met Sam.

01:41:50.280 --> 01:41:54.440
<v Ivan>He had the dashboard of this Dodge Colt that he had. Like, what do you say?

01:41:54.820 --> 01:41:55.740
<v Sam>It's still in the garage.

01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.900
<v Ivan>Okay, this is the habit that I said. He had it in his dorm room,

01:41:58.900 --> 01:42:03.700
<v Ivan>and the Dodge Colt died because of an oil. He just didn't have oil. Yeah.

01:42:04.730 --> 01:42:10.050
<v Sam>Yes. Well, nobody had told me I needed to put oil in the damn thing. I had no idea.

01:42:10.050 --> 01:42:13.830
<v Ivan>I will say that the massive improvement from then to now is that you did see

01:42:13.830 --> 01:42:17.830
<v Ivan>a light that said that you were missing something and you tried to put it in versus before.

01:42:20.070 --> 01:42:20.810
<v Sam>There you go.

01:42:21.050 --> 01:42:23.230
<v Ivan>I mean, that's a huge, huge improvement.

01:42:24.450 --> 01:42:29.330
<v Sam>There you go. And look, I was proud we got, we ended up getting that hose on.

01:42:29.490 --> 01:42:33.010
<v Ivan>And listen, I will admit that I'm impressed that we were able to get that hose

01:42:33.010 --> 01:42:36.470
<v Ivan>on. Unfortunately, the problem is that the hose didn't really, like I said.

01:42:37.110 --> 01:42:42.110
<v Ivan>It was a valiant effort to do repair that actually didn't fix any of the problems.

01:42:45.010 --> 01:42:47.990
<v Sam>Yeah, that should be the story of my life.

01:42:50.970 --> 01:42:52.670
<v Sam>Oh, well. Okay.

01:42:53.350 --> 01:42:56.290
<v Ivan>Well, no, we got one more thing. We got one thing to slack.

01:42:56.850 --> 01:43:01.090
<v Sam>Oh, yes, yes. The highlight from the slack. Go ahead, Yvonne.

01:43:01.370 --> 01:43:02.510
<v Ivan>Anthropics Claude.

01:43:02.510 --> 01:43:06.890
<v Sam>Oh yeah, we will invite you to, I didn't even say, we will invite you to Slack

01:43:06.890 --> 01:43:12.410
<v Sam>if you donate to the Patreon at $2 a month or more, or if you just ask. Okay, now.

01:43:12.410 --> 01:43:17.530
<v Ivan>All right, Anthropics Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put

01:43:17.530 --> 01:43:19.150
<v Ivan>in charge of a snacks business.

01:43:19.850 --> 01:43:23.450
<v Ivan>So if you're worried about your local potato convenience store may soon be replaced

01:43:23.450 --> 01:43:27.650
<v Ivan>by an AI storefront, you can rest easy after Anthropics Claude AI had a hard

01:43:27.650 --> 01:43:29.490
<v Ivan>time of running a mini fridge business.

01:43:31.190 --> 01:43:36.970
<v Ivan>metal I mean you know what here's the thing I think you would be happy with.

01:43:37.650 --> 01:43:42.450
<v Sam>We've talked about those tungsten cubes on the show before you.

01:43:42.450 --> 01:43:43.050
<v Ivan>Get to the.

01:43:43.050 --> 01:43:45.090
<v Sam>I have it on my Amazon wish list.

01:43:46.750 --> 01:43:49.130
<v Ivan>Oh metal cubes look at that.

01:43:49.830 --> 01:43:54.290
<v Sam>Well look here I want to be fair like because they make fun of I've seen lots

01:43:54.290 --> 01:43:59.190
<v Sam>of people making fun oh look the computer water metal cubes blah blah blah no here's what happened

01:43:59.490 --> 01:44:05.070
<v Sam>They, they had an internal Slack group where employees could ask for things

01:44:05.070 --> 01:44:07.170
<v Sam>they wanted at the snack thing.

01:44:07.510 --> 01:44:10.570
<v Sam>And some smart ass said, I want the key.

01:44:10.590 --> 01:44:16.030
<v Ivan>Well, if the AI were really smart, hey, you know what? That isn't food.

01:44:19.510 --> 01:44:22.350
<v Sam>But you know people might like it it's a.

01:44:22.350 --> 01:44:25.070
<v Ivan>Veterinarian listen i will say that there is one thing

01:44:25.070 --> 01:44:28.110
<v Ivan>i did get like a few years ago

01:44:28.110 --> 01:44:34.510
<v Ivan>not metal cubes but for scotch for some reason like these little like cubes

01:44:34.510 --> 01:44:37.130
<v Ivan>that i think were like kind of rocks that you're supposed to put them in the

01:44:37.130 --> 01:44:44.590
<v Ivan>freezer to use those instead of ice to drink your scotch so we'll cool it down

01:44:44.590 --> 01:44:46.390
<v Ivan>the The advantage, obviously,

01:44:46.690 --> 01:44:48.650
<v Ivan>is that it won't melt.

01:44:48.890 --> 01:44:53.070
<v Ivan>So it won't, you know, it doesn't mix water with your drink.

01:44:53.270 --> 01:44:59.310
<v Ivan>So that's, so I guess, you know, this isn't like completely insane,

01:44:59.450 --> 01:45:05.090
<v Ivan>but also, yeah, most people don't really need metal cubes in their fridge, I think.

01:45:05.990 --> 01:45:10.590
<v Sam>Yeah, yeah. No, but here's the thing, too. Like, it also made a bunch of mistakes.

01:45:10.710 --> 01:45:13.930
<v Sam>Like, it was selling some products at a loss, you know.

01:45:15.390 --> 01:45:20.230
<v Sam>You know, they cut it off when it, they gave it a certain amount of money to

01:45:20.230 --> 01:45:22.550
<v Sam>play with, and they cut it off when it lost $25.

01:45:22.550 --> 01:45:24.830
<v Ivan>That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad.

01:45:25.330 --> 01:45:30.230
<v Sam>You know, it sort of, it dived initially, it lost a bunch of its money to start up.

01:45:30.350 --> 01:45:34.450
<v Sam>Then it started actually like, the curve started trending up a little bit,

01:45:34.490 --> 01:45:37.570
<v Sam>and then I forget exactly which thing.

01:45:37.650 --> 01:45:42.590
<v Sam>They said there was one particular decision it made that it just started plummeting.

01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:49.980
<v Sam>And, and like most of its losses were due to one particular purchase choice

01:45:49.980 --> 01:45:53.480
<v Sam>where it bought something expensive and was like giving it away.

01:45:53.480 --> 01:45:58.060
<v Ivan>I love this. By the way, here's, I will say this, that it's pretty good at mimicking

01:45:58.060 --> 01:46:02.920
<v Ivan>humans. I will say, because you get, man, let me tell you, I,

01:46:03.180 --> 01:46:05.620
<v Ivan>one time I had to stop putting it.

01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:09.660
<v Ivan>Listen, I took away all purchasing power from employees at the pharmacy when,

01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:13.180
<v Ivan>when I took over, when I was like, when I, when I finished college.

01:46:13.180 --> 01:46:16.000
<v Ivan>because, man, we had exactly that.

01:46:16.400 --> 01:46:20.940
<v Ivan>Some people making these purchases of shit that was unsaleable, okay?

01:46:21.280 --> 01:46:24.720
<v Ivan>And I'm like, I'm sorry.

01:46:24.900 --> 01:46:30.440
<v Ivan>Why the fuck didn't we just fill up this shelf with this shit that doesn't sell?

01:46:30.860 --> 01:46:36.020
<v Ivan>Well, the sales rep gave me a good, like, speech, and I'm like, nobody wants this.

01:46:36.300 --> 01:46:44.100
<v Ivan>I had to, like, mark it down, like, 80% to get the shit to move because I just wanted it gone.

01:46:44.380 --> 01:46:47.480
<v Ivan>Even if I just got 20 cents on the dollar at least, I got something.

01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:52.020
<v Ivan>Instead of like it occupying an entire fucking shelf. So anyway.

01:46:52.560 --> 01:47:01.680
<v Sam>Yeah. Okay. Maybe I should start an AI run shop as my next venture.

01:47:02.020 --> 01:47:07.460
<v Sam>Like quit my job, open a little bodega somewhere, get one of those little kiosks

01:47:07.460 --> 01:47:10.220
<v Sam>in the middle of the mall and just have an AI run.

01:47:10.220 --> 01:47:14.260
<v Ivan>Kiosk at the middle of the mall when she first when she first came to the states

01:47:14.260 --> 01:47:19.260
<v Ivan>let me tell you yeah that's a tough that's a rough business let me tell you

01:47:19.260 --> 01:47:23.680
<v Ivan>something that's a fucking rough business well.

01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:24.580
<v Sam>That's why i want to let.

01:47:24.580 --> 01:47:29.100
<v Ivan>The eye run it you know you need us a little you know i i was just talking to

01:47:29.100 --> 01:47:34.120
<v Ivan>people that we've got or we're selling these robotic kiosks now so basically

01:47:34.120 --> 01:47:38.520
<v Ivan>just you know so people can walk up to the kiosk to go at a cell phone store

01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:41.120
<v Ivan>so you can go over there, like do all your transaction talking to,

01:47:42.420 --> 01:47:46.740
<v Ivan>some little like animated robot thing. So there you go.

01:47:48.020 --> 01:47:51.280
<v Sam>It's good. Well, you're selling it. It's gotta be good, right?

01:47:51.860 --> 01:47:54.760
<v Ivan>Oh, no, it's fantastic. What are you kidding me? It's the best damn thing.

01:47:55.120 --> 01:47:57.500
<v Ivan>Best damn thing we made. What are you kidding? It's fantastic.

01:48:00.900 --> 01:48:01.600
<v Sam>There you go.

01:48:02.780 --> 01:48:04.860
<v Ivan>I'm like, yes, they're excellent. They're fantastic.

01:48:05.980 --> 01:48:14.140
<v Sam>Okay. okay we are done thank you everybody have a great week and we will talk

01:48:14.140 --> 01:48:17.420
<v Sam>to you next time goodbye bye.

01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:54.380
<v Sam>Hey, well, it's Sam from the future here, and I know several times during the

01:48:54.380 --> 01:49:00.380
<v Sam>show I asked for, you know, people to chime in on the Slack and maybe elsewhere

01:49:00.380 --> 01:49:03.260
<v Sam>on what I should do about my car.

01:49:04.040 --> 01:49:08.940
<v Sam>But, yeah, less than 12 hours after I recorded that and before I'm putting the

01:49:08.940 --> 01:49:12.160
<v Sam>episode out, I actually already bought the car.

01:49:12.500 --> 01:49:23.120
<v Sam>And I did indeed get an Ioniq 5. so it's been home almost 12 hours now i i drove

01:49:23.120 --> 01:49:28.040
<v Sam>it home i parked it i went to sleep i edited the podcast so i've only actually

01:49:28.040 --> 01:49:32.360
<v Sam>driven the new car once so far so far so good i like it.

01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:39.920
<v Sam>Anyway yeah i already bought it so if you have any thoughts feel free to chime

01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:44.220
<v Sam>in anyway but as a bonus of actually getting to the end of the episode,

01:49:44.440 --> 01:49:46.120
<v Sam>you know that I already did this.

01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:51.980
<v Sam>Yeah, so I, yeah, I recorded the show, did a couple other things,

01:49:52.200 --> 01:49:59.960
<v Sam>then my wife was in touch with somebody she knows from her work that owns a dealership,

01:50:00.420 --> 01:50:05.320
<v Sam>owns a Hyundai dealership, and we were there shortly thereafter,

01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:11.260
<v Sam>did a test drive, they set up the deal for us, and of course they treated us

01:50:11.260 --> 01:50:13.760
<v Sam>well because they're a friend of my wife,

01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:16.000
<v Sam>and we did all the stuff.

01:50:16.220 --> 01:50:19.640
<v Sam>I went back and forth with Yvonne and text a few times to make sure we had a

01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:25.100
<v Sam>good deal and we were doing something that made sense. But yeah, the car is bought.

01:50:25.820 --> 01:50:29.760
<v Sam>Yeah, so there we go. Thanks all. Bye for real.

