WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:12.170 Greetings greetings salutations uh okay you hear me okay uh-huh okay i know 00:00:12.170 --> 00:00:18.870 and get this a little closer i don't know where'd i go here we go blah blah blah blah blah blah. 00:00:18.870 --> 00:00:23.890 Blah blah blah that's what we could do why don't we just do a whole show where 00:00:23.890 --> 00:00:25.810 instead of actually saying any words. 00:00:25.810 --> 00:00:34.110 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 00:00:34.110 --> 00:00:38.650 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 00:00:38.650 --> 00:00:40.810 Blah blah blah blah blah blah. 00:00:40.810 --> 00:00:41.210 Blah blah blah blah blah blah. 00:00:41.210 --> 00:00:41.990 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:41.990 --> 00:00:41.990 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:41.990 --> 00:00:42.170 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:42.170 --> 00:00:42.170 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:42.170 --> 00:00:42.630 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:42.630 --> 00:00:42.730 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:42.730 --> 00:00:43.590 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:43.590 --> 00:00:43.890 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:43.890 --> 00:00:44.250 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:00:44.250 --> 00:00:48.390 blah blah blah blah blah blah and the thing got boo-boo. There we go. 00:00:48.610 --> 00:00:48.990 Boo-boo. 00:00:50.770 --> 00:00:52.650 Shall we just jump right in then? 00:00:53.470 --> 00:00:54.890 Yeah, I mean, yeah. 00:00:55.130 --> 00:00:56.810 I can only see half your head. 00:00:57.750 --> 00:00:59.170 Half? Half? 00:00:59.490 --> 00:01:02.610 I can see your nose and one eye. 00:01:05.410 --> 00:01:10.730 Because you're leaning back. Oh, well, because the riverside, 00:01:10.730 --> 00:01:13.870 like, is showing me the center, not the hole. 00:01:14.030 --> 00:01:18.990 Oh, I see. And actually what I saw, okay, I, I did. Okay. Here's the, because it does. 00:01:19.090 --> 00:01:20.910 It's showing me like a vertically. 00:01:21.230 --> 00:01:28.290 Okay. All right. You've got the vertical. I've got it, or it's horizontal one on the top of the other. 00:01:28.510 --> 00:01:33.230 So I see me in there. No problem. 00:01:33.530 --> 00:01:39.530 Now, if I, what now, if I go and I widen the, the, my browser, 00:01:39.890 --> 00:01:42.630 then it puts me vertical. Then I can't see myself. 00:01:42.810 --> 00:01:48.030 Then I just see an elbow. well that sucks hold on well okay hang on wait wait 00:01:48.030 --> 00:01:53.110 wait okay oh fuck what you're just gonna put yourself in the middle no i gotta 00:01:53.110 --> 00:02:00.290 okay i have to oh fuck hold on i can i can i can fix this i can do this oh. 00:02:00.290 --> 00:02:03.570 You're you're gonna do the auto tracking thing of course that makes. 00:02:03.570 --> 00:02:07.390 Me dizzy the whole damn no no i'm not gonna do the auto tracking what i'm gonna 00:02:07.390 --> 00:02:14.990 do is i can there we go I can pan and Manually? 00:02:15.330 --> 00:02:15.930 Okay Yes. 00:02:16.050 --> 00:02:19.990 You can do it manually So I just pan the camera. 00:02:19.990 --> 00:02:26.490 Good enough You can be laid back in your chair like you are Instead of sitting up straight Right. 00:02:26.630 --> 00:02:33.190 Because I'm old I'm tired I did I understand. 00:02:33.190 --> 00:02:40.170 Shall we just start the show? Yes Okay, here we go here we go bleh. 00:02:40.170 --> 00:02:44.570 Bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh get Sam dizzy. 00:02:44.570 --> 00:02:47.670 It's a wonderful world here you go, 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:15.380 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Friday, April 18th, 2025. 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.700 It's just after 2.30 UTC as we're starting to record. 00:03:18.820 --> 00:03:22.000 I'm Sam Inter and Yvonne Bo is here again for the whole show, 00:03:22.140 --> 00:03:26.080 not just the 15-minute recording he sent in. So, welcome, Yvonne. 00:03:26.180 --> 00:03:27.760 At least I did send a recording. Hello. 00:03:28.320 --> 00:03:34.060 No, no, that was great. That was great. And, you know, I talked around. I reacted to you. 00:03:34.600 --> 00:03:45.200 I did the best I could. But I, you know, I went to three funerals for four people in one week. 00:03:45.540 --> 00:03:47.420 That is quite a lot. 00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:52.340 I don't, and I don't remember when the last time I had been to a funeral. 00:03:52.340 --> 00:03:54.400 It had to have been years and years. 00:03:56.320 --> 00:04:02.340 Well, the last funeral that we had in the family, unfortunately, 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:05.160 was during COVID. We couldn't get together for it. 00:04:05.160 --> 00:04:05.880 Right. 00:04:06.440 --> 00:04:08.900 It was right at the start of a pandemic. 00:04:09.920 --> 00:04:13.080 I think I had two last year. 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:19.840 One was for an uncle of mine that I attended via Zoom. 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:29.440 And the other was for my sister's grandfather, my step-grandfather, 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:33.120 as it were, that I attended a few months earlier. 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.980 And I included the eulogy for that in on the show. 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:38.300 Yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember this. Yes. 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:45.220 But, but, and then my, my mother's last remaining brother passed away last year as well. 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.800 And that one, that one's the one I attended via zoom. 00:04:49.380 --> 00:04:55.920 Um, well, so, so the thing is that there was only one, the, there was only one 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.740 relative of mine. And actually the one for my relative is the one that caused 00:04:59.740 --> 00:05:01.280 me to have to change all my plans. 00:05:01.460 --> 00:05:07.300 Because the thing is that this is my, one of my, my father's first cousins. 00:05:07.300 --> 00:05:15.320 And I did share, you know, her a bit on our Slack, 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:22.720 because during a time when women never got educated, 00:05:23.300 --> 00:05:29.040 okay, I had two of my elderly, like, women, you know, ancestors, 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:36.560 okay, my grandmother and this first cousin, that both graduated from college before the age of 20. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.680 Because they were that fucking smart, okay? Right. 00:05:39.900 --> 00:05:43.620 And proceeded to go and, like, get master's degrees and shit like this. 00:05:43.620 --> 00:05:47.160 And what years are we talking? Like, when would they have been here? In the 20s. 00:05:47.280 --> 00:05:49.180 In the 1920s and 30s. 00:05:49.300 --> 00:05:49.460 Wow, yeah. 00:05:49.960 --> 00:05:55.460 Yeah, this is not normal. This is a time when no women did this, okay? 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:00.200 Or at least it was very rare. It was very rare. 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:01.740 It was very, very rare. 00:06:01.740 --> 00:06:07.100 I believe my grandmother, my mother's mother, also was college educated in the 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:10.680 1920s, early 30s, whatever. 00:06:11.140 --> 00:06:15.080 But yeah, it was, it stood out a lot. 00:06:15.100 --> 00:06:17.960 It was more rare from Puerto Rico, okay, all right? 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:23.180 Add to that, Puerto Rico was extremely poor and uneducated at that time, 00:06:23.420 --> 00:06:29.940 okay? So, and the fact that she came to the U.S. 00:06:30.060 --> 00:06:34.960 To do her master's, okay, also, that was not normal. 00:06:35.140 --> 00:06:41.100 She went to the University of Florida and was doing that, and she met her husband there. 00:06:42.190 --> 00:06:48.570 The person who became her husband. And they moved. He happened to be from Palm Beach County. 00:06:49.390 --> 00:06:53.670 And so they lived here. I'd seen him a few times. I didn't see his office as 00:06:53.670 --> 00:06:55.850 I would like. But we did have a good. 00:06:56.930 --> 00:07:00.950 We just had a good relationship with them. Always very helpful. 00:07:01.150 --> 00:07:03.330 Always very kind. And so she passed away. She was 95. 00:07:03.790 --> 00:07:08.610 The one thing is that she also. She was very. With my brother specifically. She was very close. 00:07:08.870 --> 00:07:11.830 So my brother. Who was in Texas. You know. 00:07:12.530 --> 00:07:16.750 Hard to do is he hopped on a plane and came over for, for the service. 00:07:16.930 --> 00:07:20.750 And so, you know, so I had to, you know, I was like, well, I didn't have to, 00:07:20.830 --> 00:07:22.210 but I'm like, my brother's coming to town. 00:07:22.350 --> 00:07:24.110 He doesn't live here. And I'm like, well, you know, fuck, I'll, 00:07:24.130 --> 00:07:25.230 I'll go pick you up at the airport. 00:07:26.050 --> 00:07:32.450 And, but the thing is that in between all of that, the weekend before I had, 00:07:33.110 --> 00:07:38.710 I have like three friends that went to school with me in Puerto Rico that live 00:07:38.710 --> 00:07:41.890 here that I talked to that are close. 00:07:42.290 --> 00:07:45.790 Two of them had their fathers die, okay? 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:52.470 Pretty close to each other, okay? And then one of them had their sister die as well. 00:07:52.730 --> 00:07:55.330 Unfortunately, at age 49 of cancer. 00:07:55.970 --> 00:08:02.330 So the service the week before was for the father and the sister at the same fucking time. 00:08:03.930 --> 00:08:07.890 You know, so it was... Yeah. 00:08:07.890 --> 00:08:17.330 Now, what do you think about this is that I this is somebody who while I was 00:08:17.330 --> 00:08:20.930 growing up from very, you know, 00:08:21.230 --> 00:08:25.870 elementary school all the way through high school, I slept at their house all the time. 00:08:26.590 --> 00:08:32.150 It's the place that I slept away from my house the most during that time. 00:08:32.430 --> 00:08:33.630 OK, during all those years. 00:08:34.230 --> 00:08:37.110 And so i spent a lot of time so i knew her you know i 00:08:37.110 --> 00:08:39.890 knew her parents or brothers cousins you know 00:08:39.890 --> 00:08:42.570 i i stayed i stayed with him a lot i mean i stayed over there 00:08:42.570 --> 00:08:45.910 a lot i mean and you know so so we were that 00:08:45.910 --> 00:08:49.610 close and so but one thing is 00:08:49.610 --> 00:08:53.150 that you know we never really went to church but we 00:08:53.150 --> 00:08:57.550 did a catholic service and i was like i was making the joke that to them because 00:08:57.550 --> 00:09:02.870 there was like still four four male brothers that are alive okay all right you 00:09:02.870 --> 00:09:07.770 know and i said uh you know what the fuck is this we've got the worst bunch 00:09:07.770 --> 00:09:09.990 of fucking catholics do the catholics. 00:09:11.530 --> 00:09:14.170 Why the fuck are we doing this y'all laugh i was like what the 00:09:14.170 --> 00:09:17.450 fuck else are we supposed to do well yeah good boy the hell 00:09:17.450 --> 00:09:23.450 else are we gonna do also from that one is you know as i came to find out one 00:09:23.450 --> 00:09:28.230 of the cousins who came was some MAGA dickhead and he started spouting up some 00:09:28.230 --> 00:09:35.590 MAGA stuff and my the discussion started it was around asylum specifically. 00:09:36.860 --> 00:09:39.880 I guess he was very upset about people getting asylum 00:09:39.880 --> 00:09:43.000 and that the that that that that 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.660 uh that the u.s so why the fuck do we have to 00:09:45.660 --> 00:09:48.580 take more people you know why the hell do we get give asylum to 00:09:48.580 --> 00:09:51.240 more people than anybody and my buddy who went to high school by the 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:54.060 way remember this guy i don't think 00:09:54.060 --> 00:09:56.980 i think that his education whatever it was 00:09:56.980 --> 00:10:00.380 is not very good you know my my my my buddy 00:10:00.380 --> 00:10:03.540 whose dad passed his sister remember it was 00:10:03.540 --> 00:10:06.360 his brother sister okay yep he went 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.260 to johns hopkins okay all right you know he's an 00:10:09.260 --> 00:10:12.400 engineer he's a pretty bright guy okay you know 00:10:12.400 --> 00:10:15.600 i got me i'm not that stupid either and 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.380 i got this moron well i mean no no 00:10:18.380 --> 00:10:21.060 no we know no no no no no we know this guy i mean 00:10:21.060 --> 00:10:23.860 if this guy maybe got a certificate from trump you 00:10:23.860 --> 00:10:27.980 or something he's starting to argue with him about statistics he's 00:10:27.980 --> 00:10:31.480 arguing with a guy whose father died at his house and 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.680 so he starts giving her shit i i i i 00:10:34.680 --> 00:10:39.500 hear this and i hear him trying to tell him how he knows more about it and i 00:10:39.500 --> 00:10:44.080 you know saying how all these immigrants get everything they want and and i 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.940 just look i saw his girlfriend's also looking at rolling her eyes at this and 00:10:47.940 --> 00:10:52.860 i just i fucking lost it i went and i I just said, listen, 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:54.540 fucker, free shit. 00:10:54.660 --> 00:10:57.900 You mean to tell me that all those fuckers that are cutting the grass outside 00:10:57.900 --> 00:11:01.040 of here and fucking fixing the roofs? They're coming in and they're living. 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.080 What free shit are they getting, you dumb dickhead? And let me tell you. 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:06.760 And after I said that, let me tell you something. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.260 I don't even want to have this fucking discussion. We're at a fucking funeral. 00:11:10.460 --> 00:11:14.180 And these kind of gatherings, you don't talk about politics or fucking religion. 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.260 So why don't you just shut the fuck up? 00:11:17.880 --> 00:11:20.120 And then there was a round of applause. 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.780 Basically what I heard afterwards was that that's exactly what happened that 00:11:24.780 --> 00:11:29.600 they all like just were like oh thank god somebody shut him the fuck up right, 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.800 So that was my good deed for that weekend. And then came the next weekend where 00:11:34.800 --> 00:11:39.360 the funeral mass was for this other friend that I, I know her, 00:11:39.540 --> 00:11:43.300 I hadn't been as close with her, but she went with me also from elementary school. 00:11:43.420 --> 00:11:47.300 These are two people that died are both people that I went to elementary school 00:11:47.300 --> 00:11:48.760 that I've known through my life. 00:11:48.880 --> 00:11:51.720 Okay. So it's, it's, you know, it's, it's quite a long ways. 00:11:51.860 --> 00:11:55.680 We were in the same class together and her father died. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.200 And the thing is her, I told her, yes, I'm going to come to the mass, 00:11:59.380 --> 00:12:00.760 you know, because I met your dad. 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:06.180 I've seen her dad, but we, we socialize regularly. So I, it's not like I don't see her. 00:12:06.280 --> 00:12:08.380 So, so I said, no, no, no, I'm going to come over, you know, 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:11.600 because I know, you know, they're going to do it here because her parents have moved up here. 00:12:11.880 --> 00:12:15.460 And so that was at 10 AM. And then at one o'clock was the other service. 00:12:15.860 --> 00:12:20.360 And so I, I, I literally, the day of those services to go through all these 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.760 services, pick up my brother, take him up to go back. 00:12:22.900 --> 00:12:28.240 I wound up driving over 200 miles to go all over to, to do this. 00:12:29.220 --> 00:12:38.620 You know, the service for my friend was very small, but my dad's cousin, she had seven kids. 00:12:39.220 --> 00:12:45.700 And then I listen, the number of seven kids, those got married, grandchildren. 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.100 Listen, there were hundreds of people at the service. This is just just the 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:53.500 family part, just the family part. 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:59.080 Right. Just a ridiculous amount of people. OK, so that was an awful big service. 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:04.420 The other one was very small, okay, in part because they hadn't lived up here that long. 00:13:04.560 --> 00:13:07.420 And I think some people did come from out of town, but not as many. 00:13:07.700 --> 00:13:12.700 I think they actually went to Puerto Rico to do a service there. 00:13:12.700 --> 00:13:16.460 So this was like a final service, but they did something there. 00:13:16.680 --> 00:13:19.120 So this shit's not fun. 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:26.600 No, no. I mean, people always try to make like funerals like a celebration of 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.500 their life and a happier thing. But they're still sad. 00:13:31.220 --> 00:13:36.160 I did, you know, I did, you know, there were some funny jokes that were thrown around and some stuff. 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.380 And it was sometimes good to see certain people you hadn't seen in a while. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:44.300 And I, and I, and I, I will say that one of the biggest reasons to, 00:13:44.300 --> 00:13:50.560 to do this is to provide some comfort to those that are the closest to them. 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.020 Yeah. It's just suffering, you know. 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:57.940 Because it's, you know, it's hard. Yeah. I mean, I, I, so that, 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:03.100 that's basically the main thing. you go there to be there for them. 00:14:03.520 --> 00:14:06.000 And actually, one of the things, you talk about a celebration, 00:14:06.260 --> 00:14:12.120 we do make, it is funny to bring up some anecdotes about stuff that happened 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.680 with them and stuff over the years. 00:14:15.100 --> 00:14:20.320 You laugh about shit, whatever, whatnot. That's always, 00:14:22.380 --> 00:14:26.160 and you get to, sometimes there are certain people that you haven't seen in 00:14:26.160 --> 00:14:31.180 a long time that you get to see. So, you know, and I took the opportunity that 00:14:31.180 --> 00:14:35.500 because my brother was here that, you know, I mean, my brother doesn't live here. 00:14:35.640 --> 00:14:39.860 So you don't get to do this that often. Take out, take my dad and my brother. 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.240 We all went to lunch with mom and two. So we all, so we all got to do that. 00:14:44.420 --> 00:14:46.880 So, you know, so that was a thing. 00:14:47.500 --> 00:14:50.180 But yeah, so my, my somber. 00:14:52.180 --> 00:14:55.440 I am hoping there will be less funerals for you next week. 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:59.120 Well, here's the one thing. We got less people to kill now. 00:15:00.900 --> 00:15:01.300 Yeah. 00:15:01.700 --> 00:15:05.340 It is one thing about, I guess, getting to a little bit to this age. 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:06.660 Everybody starts fucking dying. 00:15:07.140 --> 00:15:12.720 I also had, I found out that my, actually, I was told last, last Friday when 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:19.960 I came in, I bumped into who is my boss's boss's boss, who's a friend, 00:15:20.060 --> 00:15:21.320 who's a, who's a friend of mine. 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.880 So I know when I took my brother to lunch after the airport, 00:15:25.160 --> 00:15:27.160 he goes and he sees me, what are you doing? Aren't you working? 00:15:27.160 --> 00:15:31.940 And I'm like, dude, I'm going to look, he was, he was giving me shit. 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:35.100 He's like, is this at a rest at a restaurant? He was at the fucking restaurant. 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:40.040 I'm like, listen, yeah, we're going to a fucking funeral. 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.320 Give me a fucking break. And he's like, oh, get out of here. 00:15:42.400 --> 00:15:50.180 I'm like, and I found out that my, that the guy who is his direct report, who's my boss's boss. 00:15:50.380 --> 00:15:52.620 His father was in hospice. 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.980 Okay. Right. And he just happened to pass away. 00:15:57.640 --> 00:16:04.940 Yesterday as well. Now, he happens to be in Argentina, so I sent his condolences. 00:16:05.180 --> 00:16:06.140 I don't think I'm going to... 00:16:07.160 --> 00:16:11.160 To Buenos Aires for that one. I didn't actually know him. I mean, 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:13.880 I know him, but I don't know his father. 00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:18.620 And that one, I just sent my condolences. I mean, that was... 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.360 So that one... But yeah, so I don't know. 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.760 Getting too many people dying around me right now. I hope this isn't rubbing off. 00:16:27.040 --> 00:16:30.880 I got wood or something. Gotta do something. What do you do for good luck? 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:34.920 Like, toss salt over my shoulder? I don't know. Something. 00:16:34.920 --> 00:16:38.940 Well, the wood thing is one of the superstitions. The knock on wood thing. 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:42.420 I don't know. Yeah, this is okay. Wood. Wood. Okay. Yeah. Wood. 00:16:42.640 --> 00:16:46.620 Wood is one. I don't know. Is it real wood? 00:16:47.020 --> 00:16:49.700 Or did you just knock on plastic or something? No, no, no, no. 00:16:49.820 --> 00:16:53.640 No. There's real wood there. Yes, there's real wood. Okay. All right. 00:16:53.700 --> 00:16:54.600 There you go. There is real wood. 00:16:54.820 --> 00:16:55.580 Then it's okay. 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.820 Then it'll work. You know, because if it's fake wood. 00:16:58.920 --> 00:17:02.640 Then I'm going to kill. That means I just sent in somebody's death. Exactly. 00:17:02.900 --> 00:17:03.520 That's how it works. 00:17:03.760 --> 00:17:04.800 That would be bad. 00:17:07.120 --> 00:17:08.760 Okay all right so okay. 00:17:08.760 --> 00:17:12.400 All right enough with the with the gloom and doom which which by. 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:13.580 The way actually i don't know what. 00:17:13.580 --> 00:17:16.880 The hell i'm talking about we're gonna talk about the news the fuck am i saying. 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.320 Yeah well we'll take a quick break this is the happy. 00:17:20.320 --> 00:17:22.520 Frothy part at this point well. 00:17:22.520 --> 00:17:29.640 I i will do a movie next however it's a kind of dark movie too so oh fuck this can't you pick. 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.600 No no no pick a happy movie no no. 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:40.180 I'm going in order oh fuck this so and then after that like you said we'll take 00:17:40.180 --> 00:17:42.300 a break what is a Schindler's List that we got. 00:17:42.300 --> 00:17:44.620 Like now or something Jesus Christ not. 00:17:44.620 --> 00:17:51.580 Yet although I did watch that recently that is a fucking. 00:17:52.980 --> 00:17:57.820 Depressing movie it's a well made movie and it's fucking like depressing as all I'm. 00:17:57.820 --> 00:18:02.160 Not going to talk about it now like it's but like Alex and I watched that like 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:09.240 within the last few weeks so it'll it'll probably be a year to try to explain to people oh 00:18:09.670 --> 00:18:12.130 We are talking about it. No, no, no, no. 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:15.790 No, no, no. I'm going to talk about Liam Neeson, who's trying to explain to 00:18:15.790 --> 00:18:22.170 people that Liam Neeson was a serious, like dramatic actor and that he didn't 00:18:22.170 --> 00:18:27.030 become an action star until many, many, many years later. 00:18:27.270 --> 00:18:30.710 It's one of those bizarre things that you realize that how fucking old we are, 00:18:30.830 --> 00:18:35.310 because you get, oh, no, Liam Neeson, like, you know, all these action movies, whatever action. 00:18:35.310 --> 00:18:42.030 Yeah, yeah, that's, listen, even Liam Neeson himself said, as an older guy, 00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:48.010 he was like, listen, I don't know, they said that I should do this movie, I thought it was crazy, 00:18:48.310 --> 00:18:51.730 how's this going to work, I'm an old guy, now I'm going to be an action star, 00:18:51.850 --> 00:18:53.970 and then all of a sudden, blambo! 00:18:54.470 --> 00:18:58.850 I'm like, you know, the action star of the... 00:18:58.850 --> 00:19:05.450 Let me tell you, and this is getting ahead of things, but we watched Schindler's 00:19:05.450 --> 00:19:08.790 List one week, which has Liam Neeson. Yeah. 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:15.370 The very, I'm pretty sure it was the very next movie we watched was The Phantom 00:19:15.370 --> 00:19:17.970 Menace, which also has Liam Neeson. 00:19:18.830 --> 00:19:22.110 Now, now, but here's the thing. Somebody was arguing with me, 00:19:22.270 --> 00:19:24.590 oh, he was in The Phantom Menace. 00:19:24.810 --> 00:19:28.070 That's an action movie. I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. 00:19:28.390 --> 00:19:33.670 No. I'm sorry, nobody equates like Chuck Norris. 00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:42.150 Like action movie with like Star Wars. Star Wars is a sci-fi movie that had action. Let me add. 00:19:42.430 --> 00:19:48.850 Then within a short amount of time after that, we also watched like Batman Rises 00:19:48.850 --> 00:19:53.010 or whatever it is, the third Batman movie, which had him in it as well as a 00:19:53.010 --> 00:19:53.850 cameo. You did that one too? 00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:54.950 Oh, okay. 00:19:55.110 --> 00:20:01.550 He was in Batman Begins in a more prominent role, but it had flashbacks to that one. 00:20:01.650 --> 00:20:04.490 Listen, can I be honest? Anyway, but the point is we had like multiple movies 00:20:04.490 --> 00:20:06.370 in a row with Liam Neeson. 00:20:06.590 --> 00:20:07.290 And I was like. 00:20:07.330 --> 00:20:08.950 What the hell? Is this the same guy? 00:20:09.290 --> 00:20:12.330 It's like, can I just say something? It's like, I lost. 00:20:12.750 --> 00:20:17.170 It's like Schindler really took a turn later and became a Jedi. What the fuck? 00:20:17.910 --> 00:20:21.630 Well, I think he was a Jedi first before he was, he was, oh, 00:20:21.850 --> 00:20:23.370 wait, no. Schindler first. 00:20:23.770 --> 00:20:26.710 Right. Then he became a Jedi. And then he became an assassin. 00:20:27.770 --> 00:20:30.310 And, and yeah. And whatever he was in Batman. Yeah. 00:20:31.090 --> 00:20:36.030 Well, here, but, but here's, okay. Can I just say that you just mentioned these Batman movies? 00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:40.770 And a bunch of other stuff. Listen, they've made so many Batman movies. 00:20:42.570 --> 00:20:51.430 I gotta be honest. I watched the Batman that had Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. Yes, yes. 00:20:52.010 --> 00:20:54.570 And I think that I watched... 00:20:54.570 --> 00:20:58.650 By the way, I just want to say, the movie that I will be talking about is a 00:20:58.650 --> 00:21:01.870 Jack Nicholson movie. Okay, go ahead. Okay, so there we go. 00:21:01.930 --> 00:21:08.030 We got Jack Nicholson. and then I think I watched The Dark Knight. Okay. 00:21:08.470 --> 00:21:09.070 That's it. 00:21:09.310 --> 00:21:16.150 And I think, and by the way, I did not watch The Dark Knight because I wanted to watch it. 00:21:16.310 --> 00:21:22.410 It's just because I was somewhere and somebody put it on. But, 00:21:22.860 --> 00:21:30.420 There have been so many fucking Batmans and Batman movies in the last 30 fucking years. 00:21:30.580 --> 00:21:32.440 It's fucking confusing. 00:21:32.980 --> 00:21:36.360 I don't, I, and they've, they've re, I mean, I've never seen, 00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:42.320 how the hell could they reboot the same fucking character like five fucking 00:21:42.320 --> 00:21:44.180 different times in 30 years? 00:21:44.360 --> 00:21:49.880 And they've milked the shit out of it somehow. And people keep watching it too. Yeah. 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:52.800 And there have been multiple Supermans and multiple Spamans. 00:21:52.860 --> 00:21:55.620 Spider-Men and, you know. I don't think there have been. 00:21:55.620 --> 00:21:59.760 As many fucking, well, the Spider-Mens are also confusing. I think I also watched 00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:01.920 the first one and then the rest, I'm like, I'll fuck off. 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:08.060 Well, and then they brought them together. Like the different. Anyway, yes. 00:22:08.980 --> 00:22:12.360 Come on, get the fuck out of here. You guys, just, you know. 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:14.720 Fuck all of you. 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:15.440 I mean, seriously. 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.600 Okay so my actual 00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:21.500 movie for today is another one 00:22:21.500 --> 00:22:24.720 of these afi 100 years 100 movies 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:31.000 once and i as as folks who've listened a while know i've been slowly working 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:37.380 that the this is the 1998 list that came out on the 100th anniversary of the 00:22:37.380 --> 00:22:41.920 invention of movies and so So it was the 100 best movies from the first 100 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:43.420 years that movies existed. 00:22:43.820 --> 00:22:49.400 They put out an updated list in 2007, but it's a 1998 list that I'm going through. 00:22:49.820 --> 00:22:56.120 I am pretty sure I started at number 100, if not in 1998, then fairly soon afterwards. 00:22:56.620 --> 00:22:59.140 So you can tell it's been a while. 00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:05.320 As of the one I'm going to talk about today, what I'm talking about today is 00:23:05.320 --> 00:23:13.680 number 19 on the list. But I will mention that I watched the... 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:21.120 We watched this back in July and we have accelerated because as of right now, 00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:25.720 this very second, we're about to enter the top five. 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:31.080 Like the next one from this list that I'm going to watch is number five. So we're almost done. 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:35.480 And Alex and I have actually decided that once we have finished with number 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:39.340 one, we're going to start the 2007 list. Okay. 00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:40.380 And so just. 00:23:40.380 --> 00:23:44.180 At number 100 and work our way back up because they revised it. 00:23:44.260 --> 00:23:45.980 They dropped some things. They added some things, whatever. 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:52.160 Anyway, number 19 was Chinatown from 1974. Yep. 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:55.000 I think I've watched this movie. 00:23:55.340 --> 00:24:04.080 It's Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway. And obviously, we're at the point in the 00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:09.400 top 100 list where every single one has won lots of awards and been nominated for more. 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.540 It was it had 11 00:24:12.540 --> 00:24:15.680 academy award nominations best picture best director 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.780 best actor best actress best original 00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:21.720 screenplay etc etc etc 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:31.880 you know and fundamentally like i i won't spoil the end but like the beginning 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:38.420 of the plot summary in on wikipedia in 1930s los angeles a woman identifying 00:24:38.420 --> 00:24:40.560 herself as Evelyn Mulray, 00:24:40.900 --> 00:24:43.940 hires private investigator J.J. 00:24:44.620 --> 00:24:48.920 Jake Gittes, that's who Jack Nicholson plays, to trail her husband Hollis, 00:24:49.280 --> 00:24:52.060 the chief engineer at the Department of Water and Power. 00:24:52.800 --> 00:24:55.820 Gittes photographs Hollis in the company of a young woman, and the pictures 00:24:55.820 --> 00:24:58.720 make their way to the post record exposing their apparent affair. 00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:03.780 Gittes is then confronted by the real Evelyn Mulray, who threatens to sue him. 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:09.420 He concludes that the imposter was using him to discredit Hollis. And then it continues. 00:25:09.780 --> 00:25:17.140 There's like corruption in like 1930s LA with the government and the contracting 00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:20.700 for the water and this organized crime and blah, blah, blah. 00:25:21.500 --> 00:25:25.520 And, you know, all of this and all kinds of intrigue. 00:25:27.610 --> 00:25:34.450 Up. It was very good. I will tell you the ending, like I had not seen this movie 00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.410 before. I had not heard of the movie. Well, I'd heard of it. 00:25:37.670 --> 00:25:42.090 I had not known the plot of this movie. 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:47.910 So I basically came in knowing nothing about this movie other than, 00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:51.790 you know, it was called Chinatown and it was on the AFI list. 00:25:51.950 --> 00:25:54.970 You know, that was about all I knew. And it had Jack Nicholson. 00:25:55.870 --> 00:26:01.370 The ending gutted me you know it was like a because i i did not know what was 00:26:01.370 --> 00:26:07.130 coming i had no spoilers and it was very powerful ending and the whole thing 00:26:07.130 --> 00:26:11.730 was good i mean you would expect that from being at number nine now i'm not sure if i didn't. 00:26:11.730 --> 00:26:14.950 That i that i watched this okay so now i'm gonna have. 00:26:14.950 --> 00:26:15.310 To fucking. 00:26:15.310 --> 00:26:17.170 Watch this damn thing and. 00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.810 Apparently there was a 1990 sequel called 00:26:20.810 --> 00:26:23.570 the two jakes i heard about that i 00:26:23.570 --> 00:26:26.530 have not watched that yet i assume it does 00:26:26.530 --> 00:26:30.390 not have the same reputation as the original but you 00:26:30.390 --> 00:26:34.210 know whatever you know i'll probably 00:26:34.210 --> 00:26:37.850 watch the two jakes eventually but the but chinatown and 00:26:37.850 --> 00:26:41.190 it's sort of like one of these what's a 00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.590 you know normally like 00:26:44.590 --> 00:26:47.550 i don't like 1970s movies i've found 00:26:47.550 --> 00:26:50.550 but but it's i think 00:26:50.550 --> 00:26:53.370 it's really the 1970s movies set in the 00:26:53.370 --> 00:26:56.430 1970s that are really trying to 00:26:56.430 --> 00:27:03.350 like there's this sort of you know aesthetic of show all the the grunge and 00:27:03.350 --> 00:27:09.370 everybody's bad and no one's sympathetic and like you know i i'm thinking of 00:27:09.370 --> 00:27:15.850 various ones where there's like corrupt boxers or druggies or whatever. 00:27:15.870 --> 00:27:20.330 And it's like, I just don't, I don't sympathize with anybody in this. 00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:23.750 And it's sort of just like horrible people being horrible. 00:27:24.790 --> 00:27:31.330 This one like tried to have, I mean, it felt like a move. 00:27:31.490 --> 00:27:36.810 I mean, it was set in the 1930s And it honestly felt more like a movie from 00:27:36.810 --> 00:27:42.430 a couple decades earlier, a little more violent, a little bit more overt violence 00:27:42.430 --> 00:27:45.950 than a movie like actually from like the forties or fifties or whatever. 00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:50.650 But it had that sort of slow burn 00:27:50.650 --> 00:27:54.130 where you know it's not 00:27:54.130 --> 00:28:01.510 non-stop action or anything like that it's sort of the situation slowly builds 00:28:01.510 --> 00:28:07.070 up and the danger escalates and you're wondering what's happening and who you 00:28:07.070 --> 00:28:12.930 can trust and what the motivations are and what's going on and yeah, 00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:15.850 Thumbs up. I liked it. Good movie. 00:28:19.340 --> 00:28:23.540 That's, that's about it. I mean, I, you know, and I really should like do better. 00:28:23.700 --> 00:28:26.980 I need to catch up on these damn movies. Cause when I try talking about them, 00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:28.260 like I watched this in July. 00:28:28.820 --> 00:28:30.940 So that's been what? 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.180 August, September, October, November, December, January, February, 00:28:35.560 --> 00:28:37.600 March, April. That was nine months ago. 00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:44.360 So my memory fades. I should do a better job of like talking about, 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.020 or you're just trying to make work for me. 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.640 Well, that's what I do. 00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:51.860 I was just. 00:28:51.860 --> 00:28:56.440 Going to say I should like catch up and like be review these within a couple 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.400 of weeks of actually watching them because then things would be a lot fresher in my mind. 00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:05.200 But I do remember I enjoyed it. But it was one of those that, 00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:10.260 you know, we were, you know, I'll eventually get Schindler's List. 00:29:10.260 --> 00:29:15.960 But Schindler's list for instance is the kind of movie that you watch it and 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:20.180 you're like, wow, that was an incredibly good movie. 00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:24.860 I do not want to watch it again anytime soon. No, no. Yeah. 00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:29.400 And I think, I think Chinatown felt, fell in that same category for me. 00:29:29.800 --> 00:29:34.040 Like it was good. I recognized it as good. It is not one I'm going to want to 00:29:34.040 --> 00:29:37.220 watch again anytime soon. You know? Okay, so I. 00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:41.400 Checked this last list that they have at the AFI. 00:29:41.580 --> 00:29:46.160 The 2007 version? Yeah, the latest one, they've got the top 100. 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.820 I've only watched about 29 of them. 00:29:51.260 --> 00:29:53.420 Okay, you just went through the whole list? 00:29:53.580 --> 00:29:57.740 Yeah, and I've watched like 29 of them. Okay. 00:29:58.340 --> 00:30:04.140 Yeah, and by the way, Chinatown, like Wikipedia has the 1998 and 2007 list right 00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:08.800 next to each other and sortable. So you can tell like Chinatown was 19 on the 00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:12.600 1998 list, but dropped to 21 for. Yeah. It's yeah. 00:30:12.760 --> 00:30:15.400 It's over here at 21. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:30:15.600 --> 00:30:18.800 And, but yeah. Yeah. So I will. 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.740 I've only watched like about a third of them. So like. 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.100 You got some. 00:30:23.100 --> 00:30:24.540 Work to do. Yeah. 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.520 Well, it seems, you know. 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.020 I, I was telling people on the show last week that you weren't in that, 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:36.720 you know, I am sure you watch more movies than what you talk about here, but I have a list. 00:30:37.100 --> 00:30:39.600 And so like, it's all organized. Yeah. 00:30:39.840 --> 00:30:44.680 I, I, I, you know, I, I, and books and TV shows. 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.560 I mean, I've, oh yeah. 00:30:46.560 --> 00:30:49.500 I mean, for sure. I mean, I, I've, I've read, I've finished several, 00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:51.900 I mean, I've finished a number of books the last couple of years. 00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:55.240 So, yeah, I mean, for sure. I think you've talked about one of them. 00:30:56.060 --> 00:31:01.900 Yeah. And it's funny that I keep, you know, I read books and I realize I'm like, 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.100 huh, maybe I haven't read books. 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.020 Then I'll go through, oh, shit, I did read a whole book. Never mind. 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:07.480 Okay, yes, I did read a few books. 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:15.960 So even when I get slow, I'm still reading a number of books. You know, so, yeah. 00:31:16.760 --> 00:31:21.300 I will say that there is a movie that this list was done what year? 00:31:21.900 --> 00:31:25.600 The original list was 1998. The revised list was 2007. 00:31:27.320 --> 00:31:32.300 Look, with all this financial stuff going on, I went and I rewatched recently 00:31:32.300 --> 00:31:36.220 this movie called Margin Call. Okay. That. 00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:36.960 Was done in. 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.140 The last 15 years. I will 00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:46.960 say that that is one of the best movies in terms of financial drama that showed 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:55.500 probably more of how things in corporate environments work and how certain decisions 00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.400 get made and how shit happens. 00:31:59.340 --> 00:32:05.140 It was a really well-put-together drama. And the cast was excellent. 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.120 And, man, that's gotta be... 00:32:10.860 --> 00:32:15.680 Watched it to go back and some people just notice that it's it's an amazing 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:21.120 movie so it's in a very powerful movie as well yeah so if you don't have it 00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:24.460 on that list you need to add it i just i just. 00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:28.820 Added it again and i i think i might have had it already because you might have 00:32:28.820 --> 00:32:31.740 mentioned it before but it's been added again now. 00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:34.820 So that was one that i watched in part because of some of the, 00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:39.700 there is a line in that movie uh i 00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:42.360 bring it up from the terms of movies you know 00:32:42.360 --> 00:32:45.880 later on we'll talk about all the stuff that's going on and 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:48.740 i mean it's a big truism people people think 00:32:48.740 --> 00:32:52.600 that a lot of these executives like that they know everything 00:32:52.600 --> 00:32:55.340 that's going on that they're geniuses in some way of 00:32:55.340 --> 00:32:59.100 some sort i would say that most good executives aren't they're 00:32:59.100 --> 00:33:02.080 probably no more it's wide rather 00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:04.960 than deep okay and if 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.840 you're really good then you know that you don't know you you're you 00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:10.800 need experts to tell you about certain things because you don't know the details 00:33:10.800 --> 00:33:13.500 you can't know the details about every single area so that's why 00:33:13.500 --> 00:33:16.860 you hire really good people or experts that can give you the recommendations so 00:33:16.860 --> 00:33:19.980 then you can make the decision you know that you need to make based 00:33:19.980 --> 00:33:27.100 on that and and the line that is very relevant to a lot of the stuff that's 00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:33.660 going on like right now was that the chief executive the chairman of the of 00:33:33.660 --> 00:33:38.040 this investment bank said you know why he asked everybody at the table do you 00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:39.340 know why i get paid all this money, 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:47.260 and people were like because i get paid to listen to the music and to figure 00:33:47.260 --> 00:33:50.240 out when the music stops so we 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.720 can get off and let me tell you something right now i don't hear a thing. 00:33:56.520 --> 00:33:58.060 And, you know, 00:33:59.580 --> 00:34:03.660 Donald Trump is push it's a scary thing. 00:34:03.800 --> 00:34:10.000 I wound up a few months ago, buying gold because I'm scared of that right now. Should. 00:34:11.020 --> 00:34:14.660 And then get into the actual news now? Sounds like we're transitioning. 00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:20.740 But I brought it up for the movie because that was a very. 00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:25.000 He was at the boardroom with everybody, and they were bringing him the analysis. 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.700 And it's one of those analysis that goes back to how people figured out that 00:34:29.700 --> 00:34:34.800 we were at the financial crisis in 2008. You know, I. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.680 Will say this. One of the movies that I watched more recently, 00:34:38.680 --> 00:34:41.920 so it'll be months and months and months until I talk about it on the show, 00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:46.620 also took place during the 2008 financial crisis. 00:34:47.220 --> 00:34:50.280 Can you guess what it was? It wasn't March and Call. 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.540 It was the other one with Michael Burry and the other people. 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.020 It was the one that was more famous. 00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:02.480 I don't think it's... It had the Australian blonde woman. It had, 00:35:02.600 --> 00:35:05.260 what's his name? Steve Carell in it. No. 00:35:05.780 --> 00:35:10.660 That's not that one either? That's not that one. No, it was the sequel to Wall 00:35:10.660 --> 00:35:13.240 Street. Wall Street Money Never Sleeps. Oh, Wall Street Money. 00:35:13.340 --> 00:35:15.700 Oh, Money Never Sleeps. Okay. Yes. 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:21.200 So, anyway. I will give my opinion of that in like 10 years whenever I get to 00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:22.620 it in order. Okay. Well, there you go. 00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:24.420 We've got plenty of time. Okay. 00:35:24.620 --> 00:35:30.800 Let's take the little breaky-breaky. You know, according to my random rules, 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.720 the next one should be a wiki of the day one, but I didn't have time to prepare 00:35:34.720 --> 00:35:38.160 it. So we'll do a different one and we'll do the wiki of the day next time. 00:35:38.540 --> 00:35:43.060 So, uh, okay. So here we go. Break number three. 00:35:43.660 --> 00:35:45.420 Do, do, do. 00:35:46.080 --> 00:35:53.120 This podcast is sponsored by Alex Mzilla.com. 00:35:53.940 --> 00:36:02.620 Alex Mzilla is great. It's on YouTube and it has lots of fun videos. 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.280 Alex Emsola is awesome and great. 00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:12.780 I love his videos, and they are obviously better than Curmudgeon's Corner. 00:36:13.300 --> 00:36:17.340 While they're funnier, they're more interesting. 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I guess since you were starting with the economic Donald 00:37:11.590 --> 00:37:14.890 Trump stuff, why don't we, are you confused now? 00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:17.690 What's going on? No, no, no. it's just that i okay earlier. 00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:23.450 I had close slack and i can't you just broke everything. 00:37:23.450 --> 00:37:29.030 There we go okay there so let's start with the donald trump economic stuff and 00:37:29.030 --> 00:37:33.290 then in the next segment we can do i don't know the donald trump legal stuff 00:37:33.290 --> 00:37:42.150 so you know when i when i recorded the show last week was, 00:37:42.330 --> 00:37:47.270 you know, your, your little 15 minute segment had included his back down on tariffs. 00:37:47.470 --> 00:37:53.130 And then by the time I recorded, he'd also backed down on electronics and some 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:58.130 other things and for China, even leaving some other things in place. 00:37:58.130 --> 00:38:04.830 And, you know, you made the point and I talked more about everything that was wrong with that. 00:38:06.350 --> 00:38:10.730 What, what's happened since then? I mean, the most recent thing, 00:38:10.870 --> 00:38:15.310 he's threatening to fire the Fed chair, even though he doesn't have the legal 00:38:15.310 --> 00:38:18.450 authority to do so. You know, fun stuff like that. 00:38:18.790 --> 00:38:27.090 Look, the thing is that still to this moment, we're having a sell-off of dollar assets. 00:38:28.550 --> 00:38:33.030 Wait, everything hasn't, like, popped back up and, you know, 00:38:33.150 --> 00:38:35.650 we're not all good? So we had this massive. 00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:42.810 Like, bump, like, one day. that one day yes that one day because of the the 00:38:42.810 --> 00:38:46.390 announcement but but you know the, 00:38:48.460 --> 00:38:55.020 continuing to see pressure on treasury rates and interest rates in general. 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:05.920 Trump is under the delusion that the Fed can somehow, in a very quick way, bring that down. 00:39:06.040 --> 00:39:11.500 But they can't. they can't it's it's it's, 00:39:12.740 --> 00:39:15.980 it's not just setting rate policy 00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:18.940 which the rate policy drives short term 00:39:18.940 --> 00:39:25.040 rates and that usually translates down into the 10 year and the 20 and the 30 00:39:25.040 --> 00:39:30.240 year more 30 year rate and they are they are somewhat connected but they're 00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:36.420 not directly connected you can control the short term right but also the Fed has multiple they. 00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:38.560 Have they can do balance. 00:39:38.560 --> 00:39:41.500 Sheet stuff right right no but what i was just going to say but. 00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:48.380 Their mission is multifaceted they're supposed to take action number one thing is. 00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:55.800 Price stability well number one important thing is price stability okay and 00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:02.980 that's the thing that just donald doesn't want to accept or understand that 00:40:02.980 --> 00:40:05.980 because everything he has done, 00:40:06.200 --> 00:40:08.460 even with the backtracking, 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.620 still massively inflationary. 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.260 Which he fundamentally doesn't believe. 00:40:15.560 --> 00:40:19.580 He doesn't believe it. Because, of course, the other countries pay the tariffs. 00:40:19.720 --> 00:40:22.360 That's how it works. Right. Because he doesn't fucking. 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:26.700 Understand how anything works. The Fed just can't drop rates. 00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:33.360 I mean, I guess. Because that is also very inflationary. Because dropping the 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.680 rates drives dropping the dollar. 00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:38.680 I mean, they theoretically could do whatever. 00:40:39.060 --> 00:40:41.920 Right? The question is, is it wise and what are the effects of that? 00:40:41.980 --> 00:40:43.520 No, well, could you drop rates? 00:40:43.660 --> 00:40:49.660 Yes, but it would drive a bigger sell-off of dollars. Right. 00:40:50.520 --> 00:41:01.280 So it would be massively, you've got two inflationary pressures at the same time. 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:08.120 Okay. because then you're going to goose the economy while you've got inflationary pressure. 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.160 Prices only go way to go up, so inflation is going to get way worse. 00:41:13.740 --> 00:41:19.600 And then it creates the problem also of the liquidity of treasuries. 00:41:22.380 --> 00:41:28.900 I mean, rates are moving where it is obvious that people are selling dollar assets. 00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:34.780 And the reality is that Why are people now, unlike at other times, 00:41:35.180 --> 00:41:38.700 of crises, not buying dollars? 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.240 There's only one fucking reason. 00:41:41.660 --> 00:41:45.220 It's called Donald J. Trump. Because... 00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:56.360 In the investment world now knows that he is a lunatic. 00:41:56.780 --> 00:42:00.980 I think that many of them thought that what would happen was, 00:42:01.120 --> 00:42:08.740 like in the first term, that a lot of this stuff would be offended off by those around him. 00:42:09.260 --> 00:42:11.040 Yeah, and I will tell you. 00:42:11.220 --> 00:42:16.460 He's just a bunch of talk. He's using it as a positioning statement for negotiations, 00:42:16.460 --> 00:42:18.620 whatever. None of this will really happen. 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.540 Or if a little bit does, it won't be that much. Because, like, 00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:27.820 he did put on some tariffs in the first term that did cause some damage. You know. 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:28.960 But. 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:29.880 They weren't anywhere. 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:37.140 Nearly as expansive as this. And so that's the situation. You've got this where 00:42:37.140 --> 00:42:39.900 some tariffs got dialed back. 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.580 But most of them have. But a lot of them have not. 00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:46.180 Okay. A lot of them have not. 00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:51.620 And even the ones that did dial back a few days later, him and his team are 00:42:51.620 --> 00:42:54.520 talking about, oh, well, they'll they'll be back, though. 00:42:56.160 --> 00:42:57.640 And they keep talking. 00:42:57.640 --> 00:43:01.480 About going and like imposing even more tariffs on other places. 00:43:02.100 --> 00:43:05.560 I mean, they keep talking like, oh, we're not done with imposing tariffs. 00:43:06.080 --> 00:43:07.420 Well, right. Right. I like when, when he. 00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:10.500 Said the specific thing, when they backed off and said, okay, 00:43:10.620 --> 00:43:15.460 well, no, no, no tariffs on the electronics coming out of China, 00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:18.600 which gave like Apple and other companies a big sigh of relief. 00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:23.480 A couple of days later, they come on and say, oh no, but we are going to be 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.040 tariffing the semiconductors. 00:43:25.240 --> 00:43:28.300 We just haven't figured that out yet. We'll do that next month. 00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:39.820 So it really, I mean, this is why the markets have started selling back off again. 00:43:42.790 --> 00:43:49.850 And trust is difficult to build. It's easy to break. Yep. 00:43:51.350 --> 00:43:56.770 And the one thing that the U.S. has had is, and Mr. We Have Been Screwed Over 00:43:56.770 --> 00:44:01.830 by Everybody doesn't understand that the one advantage that the U.S. 00:44:01.850 --> 00:44:04.190 Has had for a long time is that the U.S. 00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:07.330 Dollar has been the reserve currency of the world. 00:44:08.330 --> 00:44:11.910 Everybody, when they wanted to put their money in safety, buys dollars. 00:44:11.910 --> 00:44:14.790 It's why we have so much cheap capital. 00:44:15.450 --> 00:44:21.110 And that is one thing that really boosts the economy more than it is one of 00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:24.570 the biggest drivers of the economy. 00:44:24.770 --> 00:44:29.510 It's also why, you know, companies come and list their shares in the U.S. 00:44:29.830 --> 00:44:31.990 They sell bonds in the U.S. 00:44:32.470 --> 00:44:36.390 Even some foreign governments wind up selling bonds in the U.S. 00:44:36.390 --> 00:44:41.810 Like Argentina, that does repeatedly because nobody would buy a bond issued 00:44:41.810 --> 00:44:44.870 under the laws of Argentina because they didn't trust those laws. 00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:48.530 But they would come to the U.S. and they would feel that in the U.S. 00:44:48.650 --> 00:44:53.530 They would get a fair shake, you know, if there's a legal dispute to get paid. 00:44:53.750 --> 00:45:01.330 OK, but when you are basically just saying that you're going to flout all the 00:45:01.330 --> 00:45:04.170 laws that you're going to impose, 00:45:04.590 --> 00:45:09.850 you know, basically just try to bully everybody into shit and, 00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:14.470 you know, just fuck with the economy like it's just a toy. 00:45:16.290 --> 00:45:17.550 You know, people are leaving. 00:45:17.710 --> 00:45:22.230 I mean, he has been threatening to delist shares of Chinese companies, for example. 00:45:22.670 --> 00:45:25.790 So what is, I mean, when you start doing those kinds of threats, 00:45:25.930 --> 00:45:28.890 then what that means is that you're going to be, well, wait, 00:45:29.030 --> 00:45:31.210 I can't, I don't want to list my shares in the U.S. then. 00:45:31.790 --> 00:45:40.190 It's just everything that he is doing is horrifically damaging to the American 00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:43.630 economy at this moment. And. 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.480 Seen the the the effects of the 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.180 pricing but they're coming you know a lot 00:45:50.180 --> 00:45:53.180 of importers have already talked about this though they're 00:45:53.180 --> 00:45:55.960 trying to clear shipments they also were trying to 00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.000 now impose some additional fees on chinese ships arriving 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.260 in the u.s as well which i saw there i 00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:04.980 actually had seen this while i was in puerto rico because a couple 00:46:04.980 --> 00:46:09.120 of people that i know down there are in the ship are in the shipping industry 00:46:09.120 --> 00:46:12.820 because everything to puerto rico comes by ship So I was talking to some people 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:17.060 that were in the shipping industry and that they had proposed these rules that 00:46:17.060 --> 00:46:22.560 basically about Chinese ships and how they would be taxed and how if you use Chinese ships, 00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:25.860 you would be extra taxed and levied and blah, blah, blah. 00:46:26.140 --> 00:46:30.060 And I saw the document. It was just total insanity as well. 00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:34.660 It would increase the cost of shipping anywhere, anything that happened to move 00:46:34.660 --> 00:46:36.640 like between points in the U.S. 00:46:37.020 --> 00:46:40.100 By ship in an astronomical fashion. Okay. 00:46:40.100 --> 00:46:45.800 It's just the kind of idiotic bullshit that this administration keeps doing 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:54.360 that has no rhyme or reason with any of the data or economic fact. 00:46:54.520 --> 00:46:57.060 And it's everything that this administration does. 00:46:57.240 --> 00:47:03.280 It doesn't matter if it's—the economy is like one part that he's fucking with heavily. 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:12.060 Health care whether it's immigration health care whatever the fuck the weather i mean. 00:47:12.700 --> 00:47:19.840 You know there is nothing everything here it's just you know my gut feeling, 00:47:20.580 --> 00:47:25.720 is that we're getting screwed and so we're gonna do this then today what the 00:47:25.720 --> 00:47:32.000 hell was it that he said he said this thing that was hilarious he said where the heck did, 00:47:33.030 --> 00:47:36.710 here. Trump says he's reluctant to keep raising tariffs on China. 00:47:36.930 --> 00:47:39.530 President Trump has said he's reluctant to continue ratcheting up tariffs on 00:47:39.530 --> 00:47:43.370 China because it could stall trade between the two countries. 00:47:43.650 --> 00:47:46.890 No shit, Sherlock! Really? 00:47:47.910 --> 00:47:52.790 Now you figured this out? So, I mean, I've seen... 00:47:52.790 --> 00:47:54.350 China was, like, going to restrict. 00:47:54.350 --> 00:47:59.710 Deliveries of Boeing aircraft, which is our number one export. Okay? 00:48:00.310 --> 00:48:08.830 Our number one export, period. OK, a dollar value item that we that we sell is fucking aircraft. 00:48:09.290 --> 00:48:14.230 OK, so China was saying, hey, you can't buy any more Boeing aircraft. 00:48:14.670 --> 00:48:18.190 We're going to block deliveries of the fucking Boeing aircraft. OK. 00:48:18.850 --> 00:48:22.130 All right. It's catastrophic. OK. All right. 00:48:22.550 --> 00:48:27.170 To do that as well. I mean, this is all so fucked up. And by the way, 00:48:27.290 --> 00:48:33.030 they talked about the set was we're going to do these bespoke negotiations with 00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:35.470 everybody over the next 90 days. 00:48:35.970 --> 00:48:44.470 Sam, 70 negotiations with 70 countries at the same time you do them in 90 days. 00:48:44.910 --> 00:48:47.870 Well, just kind of like just a trade agreement. 00:48:48.190 --> 00:48:48.830 I don't know. 00:48:49.010 --> 00:48:49.410 Wait, wait, wait. 00:48:49.550 --> 00:48:52.690 I don't know if you heard this part. but you 00:48:52.690 --> 00:48:56.470 know those law firms that donald trump like strong-armed 00:48:56.470 --> 00:49:01.570 into saying they would do pro bono work for causes that he appreciated yeah 00:49:01.570 --> 00:49:08.350 so apparently he has been saying over the last week that part of what he intends 00:49:08.350 --> 00:49:12.730 them to do is all these trade negotiations for him what the fuck does that. 00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:18.250 I mean, still, regardless. Which, by the way, by the way. 00:49:18.510 --> 00:49:23.150 That is insane. Well, it also isn't legal, apparently, because they can do pro 00:49:23.150 --> 00:49:28.110 bono work, but they can't do pro bono work for the government. Right. It's nuts. 00:49:29.230 --> 00:49:33.810 Well, of course, now all these fucking legal firms are realizing what they should 00:49:33.810 --> 00:49:37.090 have known in the first place, which is that you can't say yes to a fucking 00:49:37.090 --> 00:49:39.310 bully, which is what I've been saying since the beginning. 00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:42.450 These guys are going, I'm like, oh, yeah, we'll just make a deal and then go 00:49:42.450 --> 00:49:47.190 away. No, when you fucking say yes to one of these assholes that it's like it's 00:49:47.190 --> 00:49:48.470 like saying yes to the mob. 00:49:48.910 --> 00:49:53.470 OK, right. It is totally like saying yes to the mob. It is saying yes to the mob. 00:49:53.610 --> 00:49:59.770 It is saying yes to the mob. OK, but look, going back to what you said a little 00:49:59.770 --> 00:50:03.190 bit ago about just sort of Donald Trump not understanding. 00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:08.290 I've heard a number of, if you try to piece together some of the statements 00:50:08.290 --> 00:50:12.710 that he and the pro-tariff people around him have been saying, 00:50:13.270 --> 00:50:21.210 they say repeatedly things like the income from the tariffs will make up money 00:50:21.210 --> 00:50:26.650 that we can, will make up for income tax so we can drop taxes, 00:50:26.910 --> 00:50:27.810 et cetera, blah, blah, blah. 00:50:28.330 --> 00:50:31.350 It almost is reliant on the assumption. 00:50:31.710 --> 00:50:38.310 First of all, The other countries are paying the tariffs, but also that the 00:50:38.310 --> 00:50:43.630 amount of product sold and traded isn't going to drop, isn't going to drop. 00:50:43.630 --> 00:50:47.950 It's just going to be exactly the same, but we'll make more money. This is the moronics. 00:50:48.110 --> 00:50:51.110 This is the part where apparently, you know, failing economics 101. 00:50:51.790 --> 00:50:58.310 Hey, Sam, you know, as the curve of prices went up in econ 101, 00:50:58.690 --> 00:51:02.610 what happened to the curve of demand? Well, here's the thing. He doesn't think the. 00:51:02.610 --> 00:51:05.670 Price will change because China will just pay the tariff. 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:10.540 You're right. Yvonne is dumbfounded. 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.620 I'm just, you know. 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.140 It's just, he doesn't understand, you know, where the fuck the, 00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:18.720 how the tariffs get paid. 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:24.540 I just, he just, and even it's just, you know, people are just going to write 00:51:24.540 --> 00:51:26.260 a check, you know, for more. 00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:30.620 I don't, it's just, it is so dumb. The whole thing is so fucking dumb. 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:38.720 It is beyond dumb. There is no, you know, there's just no logic to any of this. None. 00:51:39.340 --> 00:51:42.080 None, none, none. We're dealing with a psychopath. 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:44.340 Well, he said repeatedly. 00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:50.960 Look, in the golden years of the 1880s and 1890s, there was no income tax and 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.440 we just made all the federal government's money off tariffs. 00:51:53.660 --> 00:51:56.660 And that's what he wants to go back to. Yeah. 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.240 We had no roads. We had no airports. 00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:05.120 We had no, you know, what the fuck didn't we have, Sam? 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.400 We didn't send rockets to the moon. We didn't pay social security. 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:13.980 We had no medicare we had no medicaid okay well they don't want any of those 00:52:13.980 --> 00:52:15.540 things either so well they don't want any. 00:52:15.540 --> 00:52:16.420 Of those things either. 00:52:16.420 --> 00:52:19.220 You know what the fuck didn't we have 00:52:19.220 --> 00:52:23.460 we didn't have shit i mean i 00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:33.900 this is just this thing is this mess is not old okay look gold is up 20 percent 00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:39.700 do you just keep fucking buying gold i bought gold i said this months ago look i, 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.420 what are the fucking smartest things i've i've done let me tell you i did say 00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:52.800 it on this show so if you didn't do it that's your fucking problem okay but i'm it's just. 00:52:54.560 --> 00:53:04.040 There's no there is no positive end game in the way that they are doing this 00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:09.320 like right now you know there just isn't I mean, 00:53:10.220 --> 00:53:15.480 everything every leading indicator for the economy isn't shit you've got I've 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:20.600 got car you know for example I've got a car dealer that I bought a car from 00:53:20.600 --> 00:53:24.220 desperately calling me to renew a lease. 00:53:24.560 --> 00:53:29.180 And the reason why I know they're desperate to do it is because they're worried about tariffs. 00:53:29.660 --> 00:53:34.220 Okay? Because those tariffs haven't been lifted. The tariffs on the cars, 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.840 they're still in place, 25%. Right. 00:53:39.180 --> 00:53:45.360 That didn't go away. So we got a tariff of 25% of fucking cars coming in right now. 00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:47.860 10% on everything else. 00:53:48.580 --> 00:53:54.100 Then we got 100 plus percent tariffs on China. except those electronics. 00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:55.620 Except those electronics. 00:53:55.620 --> 00:54:08.200 So I so stupid the whole fucking thing is so stupid it's just so stupid Sam I in my life, 00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:15.980 And it's just such level of just grotesque stupidity in doing policy. 00:54:15.980 --> 00:54:19.520 And this is what we're up against right now. 00:54:19.740 --> 00:54:20.100 Well. 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:21.380 And this comes back to the. 00:54:21.380 --> 00:54:27.680 Conversation you and I have had a number of times. But it's worth bringing up 00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:33.240 over and over again because it's like, okay, is it really stupidity or is this what he wanted? 00:54:34.060 --> 00:54:35.680 Now, he has no clue, Sam. 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.340 He really is this clueless. He is this dumb. 00:54:39.900 --> 00:54:46.020 There is nothing from what he says that betrays that there is any intelligence 00:54:46.020 --> 00:54:48.060 or master plan behind it. 00:54:49.240 --> 00:54:53.220 Five dimensional chess, Yvonne. Yeah, the five dimensional chess. He's a genius. 00:54:53.580 --> 00:54:54.980 Just trust in Trump. 00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.800 It'll all be better. The one reason. 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:04.160 Why he backed off massively last week was because Scott Bacent showed him the 00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:07.840 fucking chart on what the hell was happening with the treasury market. 00:55:09.040 --> 00:55:15.580 And he told him that, look, this thing goes, we're in a fucking heap of trouble. 00:55:17.100 --> 00:55:22.440 Then we have to go back to, we're back to 2008 measures. 00:55:23.780 --> 00:55:28.880 I mean, literally, this is the kind of financial crisis shit we're talking about. 00:55:29.060 --> 00:55:33.660 We're talking about going back to 2008 measures, where the 00:55:33.660 --> 00:55:36.620 treasury is going to have to go into to the bond market and 00:55:36.620 --> 00:55:39.360 just start doing quantitative easing again they're 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.600 gonna have to just go in and just start buying you know 00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:49.880 just printing dollars by the way that's also fucking you know gonna devalue 00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:58.940 the dollar which also raises rates and prices yeah yes it's just it's it's it's 00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:00.720 a fucking shit show in every direction. 00:56:02.260 --> 00:56:08.740 I don't know what the hell the only, I don't see a good end, 00:56:09.530 --> 00:56:16.070 OK, the only endgame that happens that I think is the tariffs start hitting 00:56:16.070 --> 00:56:19.710 everybody's pockets in the coming weeks and months. 00:56:20.930 --> 00:56:23.230 People start getting really angry. 00:56:24.310 --> 00:56:29.610 The constituents start getting really angry already. A lot of the smaller businesses 00:56:29.610 --> 00:56:35.190 that are involved in importing shit are getting the sticker shock already right now. 00:56:35.570 --> 00:56:39.750 OK, right. They're starting to get the bills. but that hasn't translated yet 00:56:39.750 --> 00:56:41.890 directly into the inventory of people now, 00:56:42.430 --> 00:56:45.410 timu shine and all of these are already getting fucked so 00:56:45.410 --> 00:56:48.650 anybody all these people that like that shit they're already they're already 00:56:48.650 --> 00:56:54.830 hit with tariffs okay there's no exemptions okay so i guess if you if you're 00:56:54.830 --> 00:56:59.370 buying something i mean right i mean right now i haven't looked but i mean i've 00:56:59.370 --> 00:57:05.990 never bought from this but i'm guessing that you know if you're used to seeing And some prices, 00:57:06.310 --> 00:57:09.290 those are going to go up. 00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:11.670 I've never bought anything for Tim. Have you? 00:57:12.150 --> 00:57:14.190 No, no. I haven't even been to the website. 00:57:14.510 --> 00:57:16.670 Okay. I just went to the website for the first time. 00:57:16.910 --> 00:57:19.730 But it's so popular, though. Oh, yeah. 00:57:20.670 --> 00:57:30.690 And so the only way that this gets to stop is by massive discontent. 00:57:32.370 --> 00:57:35.910 That's the thing. There is no other way to make it stop. 00:57:36.430 --> 00:57:41.290 People, the people have to get angry. What one thing that he is say, 00:57:41.450 --> 00:57:45.110 calculating, he's not calculating that he isn't. 00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:50.510 Seen is that he idolizes Putin. 00:57:51.010 --> 00:57:57.570 But one thing that Putin has been adept at is managing the economy. 00:57:58.130 --> 00:58:01.590 You know, he has done his crazy shit, 00:58:01.890 --> 00:58:11.430 but he also has a number of people around him that are smart economists that 00:58:11.430 --> 00:58:18.170 have figured out ways to reduce the impact of his, 00:58:18.790 --> 00:58:21.370 of the things that he's done. Okay. 00:58:21.970 --> 00:58:25.130 They have looked for ways for people to be able to get food, 00:58:25.250 --> 00:58:29.370 to get stuff, to get whatever, how to, okay, great. I'm going to go launch a war. 00:58:29.710 --> 00:58:33.690 I'm going to get years of international sanctions and everything else. 00:58:34.630 --> 00:58:36.870 Still collapsed. Right. 00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:41.110 Right. But but he's got smart people that he's listening to to say, 00:58:41.210 --> 00:58:43.850 OK, great. I wanted to invade Ukraine. I got these sanctions. 00:58:44.210 --> 00:58:48.590 What do I do to get around? OK, that's not how Trump is operating. 00:58:48.890 --> 00:58:51.750 Trump is operating that he's going to do this shit and he doesn't need to do 00:58:51.750 --> 00:58:54.010 anything to mitigate the impact of any of this. 00:58:54.610 --> 00:58:59.730 So because if you want, OK, I want to bring back manufacturing to the U.S. 00:59:00.350 --> 00:59:04.150 Well, what Biden was doing was doing that. OK, because the problem is that after 00:59:04.150 --> 00:59:08.930 30 or 40 years of of of so much manufacturing moving offshore. 00:59:10.650 --> 00:59:14.270 You couldn't bring it back overnight, number one. But the second problem is 00:59:14.270 --> 00:59:18.950 that there's a lot of manufacturing and the jobs, the number of jobs and the 00:59:18.950 --> 00:59:24.630 things you don't need as many people as you used to to make a lot of shit that we used to make. 00:59:24.630 --> 00:59:30.890 The second problem is that back in this golden age, like in the 50s and 60s, 00:59:31.270 --> 00:59:35.990 where we had, as a percentage of the world, so many of the manufacturing jobs 00:59:35.990 --> 00:59:38.870 other countries didn't, well, the U.S. 00:59:38.890 --> 00:59:41.510 Was 60% of the GDP of the world. Okay? 00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:47.390 Right. It's not— Just as a reminder to people. 00:59:47.590 --> 00:59:52.590 In part because most of the rest of the world was devastated by World War II. 00:59:52.990 --> 00:59:55.250 Correct. Okay? Exactly right. 00:59:55.490 --> 00:59:59.390 And that was the 50s and 60s. Now the U.S. 00:59:59.530 --> 01:00:06.190 Is around 30, 40%. It's still a large percentage. But the world economy grew a lot. 01:00:06.390 --> 01:00:08.650 It's so much bigger. Okay? 01:00:09.010 --> 01:00:15.950 So if you're building, if you're Apple, you don't want all of your business. 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:24.580 You don't want all your costs in only one country when 60% of your sales come 01:00:24.580 --> 01:00:25.840 from outside the United States. 01:00:26.080 --> 01:00:30.640 You need to spread that out throughout the world because that is one way that 01:00:30.640 --> 01:00:35.460 you would do the so-called natural hedging against currency effects. 01:00:35.720 --> 01:00:42.440 Okay, so this hit a lot of companies back in the 80s, okay, when we were still 01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:48.040 coming off of how the post-World War II world was in terms of manufacturing. 01:00:48.040 --> 01:00:51.540 There was a massive devaluation of the dollar, okay? 01:00:52.060 --> 01:00:58.000 And when that devaluation happened, okay, Germans, Germans specifically, 01:00:58.240 --> 01:01:03.100 actually Germans and the British, okay, both of them, they sold a lot of cars in the U.S. 01:01:03.500 --> 01:01:07.420 Well, there was a 50% devaluation in the dollar. That meant that the price of 01:01:07.420 --> 01:01:11.260 their cars doubled overnight. Their sales plummeted, okay? 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.740 Porsche almost went bankrupt, okay, over this. 01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:19.980 And beginning at that time, and it came to fruition into the 90s, 01:01:20.140 --> 01:01:24.540 well, the Germans decided, look, we can't just manufacture cars in Germany and 01:01:24.540 --> 01:01:26.660 sell cars in Germany. We need to diversify. 01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:34.260 And they have manufacturing plants in the U.S. Or they buy parts and other things from the U.S. Okay? 01:01:35.080 --> 01:01:43.160 Or from the different markets where they sell. So there are BMW cars that are assembled in China, 01:01:43.460 --> 01:01:50.120 in the U.S., in Germany, not just in Germany, because in order to protect yourself against that. 01:01:50.460 --> 01:01:56.380 So he's trying to say to Apple, hey, bring all that manufacturing back to the U.S. 01:01:56.620 --> 01:02:01.160 Well, shit. I mean, if I sell 60% of my total phones outside the U.S., 01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:06.400 even if I wanted to, I can't bring all that manufacturing to the U.S., 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.200 number one, because that exposes you to way too much risk. 01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:14.160 And then the second thing is that nobody wants those fucking jobs. 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:20.860 Nobody wants those fucking jobs, OK, here in the U.S. 01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:26.640 Because people moved on from that. okay there are people it's just there was 01:02:26.640 --> 01:02:31.800 a survey recently that showed how americans you know said hey do. 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:32.560 You think it's. 01:02:32.560 --> 01:02:38.160 Great for america to have you know bring back all the manufacturing 80 of them 01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:45.260 said yes yes let's build build build build build okay great how many of you really want to have, 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.220 jobs. Only 20% of them said they wanted manufacturing jobs. 01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:54.940 They don't want the fucking jobs. They don't want to be in a fucking factory. Okay. 01:02:57.260 --> 01:03:00.120 It's not what the U.S. 01:03:00.220 --> 01:03:05.360 Economy has developed over the last 20, 30, 40 years. It's turned into a service economy. 01:03:05.900 --> 01:03:09.240 They're still manufacturing, by the way. The one thing is that if you look at 01:03:09.240 --> 01:03:10.260 the manufacturing output, 01:03:10.460 --> 01:03:13.960 it's not like it's decreased but the manufacturing employment 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:18.320 sure as hell has but because of automation automation yes 01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.360 technology efficiency so we still build 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:26.620 a lot of shit here but damn it you know people don't want to fucking go back 01:03:26.620 --> 01:03:32.800 to you know they're not going to be sewing sneakers and you know putting little 01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:38.520 screws and iphones and and even if you wanted it to happen yeah like Like I've 01:03:38.520 --> 01:03:41.040 seen industries be protected by tariffs in certain places. 01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:43.760 Hey, you know, do a bidder or whatever. You see a tariff, OK? 01:03:44.180 --> 01:03:46.860 Well, you do a tariff when you're protecting an industry that's there. 01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:50.600 OK, you're trying to give them time to see if they could, you know, 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:52.560 invest, do some incentives or whatever. 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.880 But by putting the tariffs right now, when there's no capacity here, 01:03:56.200 --> 01:03:58.360 the only thing that can happen is if you need the item, you're going to have 01:03:58.360 --> 01:03:59.380 to pay more for it. That's it. 01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.860 There's nothing else I can do because we're not going to get a fucking iPhone 01:04:01.860 --> 01:04:04.960 from anywhere else. and and one of. 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.940 The there's there's an interview with tim cook that's been floating 01:04:07.940 --> 01:04:10.560 around where he talks about people who are 01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:18.000 like look there's this myth that the china is about low labor costs it's not 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.900 about low labor costs they've now labor costs have pretty much caught up it 01:04:21.900 --> 01:04:26.440 maybe it's a little bit cheaper but not much it's about the skill set and the 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.920 tooling and everything else that's there. The entire ecosystem. 01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:37.340 He brought a particular example of like, you know, if you wanted to get a you know, 01:04:39.080 --> 01:04:45.160 of tooling and manufacturing into a room, like there's probably like 30 people 01:04:45.160 --> 01:04:47.580 in the entire United States with that skill set. 01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:49.840 You go over to China, there are tens of thousands. 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:52.400 Listen, I was looking into manufacturing an. 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:56.420 Electronic product sometimes like about 10, 15 years ago. Okay. 01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.000 And, you know, I went, I talked to a couple of different manufacturers, 01:05:00.200 --> 01:05:02.580 a few little factories in Shenzhen. 01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.780 And it was just amazing the capacity that they had. Oh, This is what you want 01:05:06.780 --> 01:05:08.760 to build. Oh, we need this component. We need this. We need that. 01:05:09.460 --> 01:05:13.380 Listen, you couldn't do any of that here. There's nobody to talk to to do that. 01:05:13.740 --> 01:05:22.120 They were, I mean, they, they, they have such an entire ecosystem to do that so easily over there. 01:05:22.420 --> 01:05:26.900 And, and when he's talking about the labor rates, he's, he may be exaggerating 01:05:26.900 --> 01:05:29.740 it a little bit. They are a lot higher than they used to be. Okay. 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:34.980 They're not totally the same, but they're still cheaper, but it's not. 01:05:34.980 --> 01:05:37.560 But it's not what it used to be. 01:05:37.740 --> 01:05:45.740 It's not the biggest driver. Because, look, I had an operations center in Shanghai, specifically, okay? 01:05:46.220 --> 01:05:51.660 And the average person at the Shanghai operations center was making $30,000, 01:05:51.660 --> 01:05:53.320 $40,000, $50,000 a year. 01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:56.760 It's not like they were making $5,000 a year. 01:05:57.300 --> 01:06:02.300 And that's similar to some of the labor rates here. So really, 01:06:02.540 --> 01:06:06.800 in Shanghai, for example, the reality is he's right. 01:06:07.020 --> 01:06:11.660 It wasn't paying any fucking, it was not cheaper. It was maybe somewhat cheaper, 01:06:11.660 --> 01:06:18.500 but not that, not like 2% versus, you know, not 80% less. No. 01:06:19.060 --> 01:06:23.680 So, yeah, I mean, he's right about that. It is the entire manufacturing, 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:25.220 the supply chain, the ecosystem, 01:06:25.500 --> 01:06:29.400 everything that's over there, how you know they've got that all put together 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:33.000 in order to be able to make the products ship them and and distribute them very 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:37.040 easily so but i'm talking about, 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:44.500 you just got a psychopath at the wheel i mean that's our problem and the reality 01:06:44.500 --> 01:06:50.020 is that i was talking about the end game earlier when people get upset the only 01:06:50.020 --> 01:06:53.900 thing is that congress needs to act and congress can good. 01:06:53.900 --> 01:06:54.560 Luck with that. 01:06:54.560 --> 01:07:01.860 Well i mean listen yeah we talked well they were talking about lisa murkowski 01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:07.460 was talking yesterday how she admitted that they were scared they're they're scared. 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:11.720 But at some point, what I'm saying about the constituents getting angry. 01:07:12.460 --> 01:07:15.660 At some point, they get more afraid of their voters than. 01:07:15.660 --> 01:07:18.960 Of Donald Trump. And that's exactly what needs to happen. 01:07:19.220 --> 01:07:24.520 At some point, because, and the way that that happens is people showing up at 01:07:24.520 --> 01:07:27.100 their fucking car dealer trying to buy a car realize that they can't afford 01:07:27.100 --> 01:07:29.720 a fucking car anymore because it's 25% more expensive. 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:32.120 Well, but the thing we talked We talked. 01:07:32.120 --> 01:07:37.300 About a couple of weeks ago when we talked about what would it take for enough 01:07:37.300 --> 01:07:43.280 Republicans to bail on Trump in order to do these kinds of reversals from the Congress. 01:07:43.560 --> 01:07:47.960 You know, the conclusion we came to at the end of that discussion was it's far 01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:51.560 more likely that before it gets to that point, 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:57.680 Donald Trump does one of his traditional flips and goes backwards just in time 01:07:57.680 --> 01:08:00.660 to avoid it. And claims victory somehow. And claims victory somehow. 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:01.060 Exactly. 01:08:01.060 --> 01:08:02.540 But here's the thing. 01:08:02.780 --> 01:08:06.700 At this point, he still hasn't budged. He is still under the dilute. 01:08:06.940 --> 01:08:11.580 You know what? He caved on some of the things because of the things that he understands. 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:15.560 And he didn't on a whole bunch of others. And I don't think he still realizes 01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:21.080 that the shit that he still enforced has a lot of really negative impacts still. 01:08:21.540 --> 01:08:22.900 I think that's the problem. 01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:27.940 I mean, this guy, the guy's never been shopping to a store in his life, 01:08:28.060 --> 01:08:30.080 right? I mean, he's never been to a grocery store, right? 01:08:30.620 --> 01:08:34.440 It's an old it's an old-fashioned word that people are talking about. 01:08:34.440 --> 01:08:38.860 A lot recently groceries right but but this guy this. 01:08:38.860 --> 01:08:42.360 Motherfucker's never been to walmart what you know what the fuck would he know 01:08:42.360 --> 01:08:46.800 about prices at walmart okay right he doesn't know anything he doesn't understand 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.060 that all those fucking products that are lined up over there and people go buy 01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:54.060 they come from fucking china right and so at. 01:08:54.060 --> 01:08:54.900 Some point people. 01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:57.140 Are going to be showing up at the fucking store they're going to see the widget 01:08:57.140 --> 01:09:00.480 that they bought last year to go to the barbecue and the beach was, 01:09:00.480 --> 01:09:04.700 you know, $100, and now it's $250 because of the tariff, they're going to be 01:09:04.700 --> 01:09:05.620 like, what the fuck happened? 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:07.820 It was Joe Biden's fault. 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:10.540 Biden's fault. Yes, clearly. 01:09:11.080 --> 01:09:14.940 It's all Joe Biden's fault. Well, I mean, that's what strategy says Joe Biden's 01:09:14.940 --> 01:09:18.240 fault. Everything's Joe Biden's fault. I mean, look. 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:24.240 Yes. I think there's the delay, too, right? 01:09:24.300 --> 01:09:29.360 Like you said, you know, prices and the recession and the unemployment. 01:09:29.740 --> 01:09:33.420 Believe me, because we're getting all of these things. Sam, we're getting a 01:09:33.420 --> 01:09:35.440 fucking recession. We're getting a recession. 01:09:35.940 --> 01:09:38.840 We're getting more unemployment. You know, 01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:46.060 businesses are not they're not investing Sam they don't want to hire they're 01:09:46.060 --> 01:09:49.720 scared of hiring and they're not investing man they're looking at it and they're 01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.020 like shit we don't know what we're going to do we have to wait to see what the 01:09:53.020 --> 01:09:55.820 fuck happens right well because and I talked a little bit. 01:09:55.820 --> 01:10:00.200 About this last week and we've talked about it before too because on top of 01:10:00.200 --> 01:10:06.360 everything else is the one thing is the policies are bad for all of these objective 01:10:06.360 --> 01:10:11.240 reasons but the The other thing is the freaking uncertainty because he changes 01:10:11.240 --> 01:10:12.620 his mind every five minutes. 01:10:13.100 --> 01:10:17.700 Yes. So how the hell can you plan for it? You can't. And that's the problem. 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.500 And they went. Listen, a whole bunch of executives met with him. 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:26.200 OK, this is roundtable, went to him and said this. Hey, you know, 01:10:26.340 --> 01:10:28.520 we need some certainty to understand so we can plan. 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.400 And he brushed it off and said, these fucking guys, they want certainty, 01:10:31.580 --> 01:10:32.440 whatever. Who gives a shit? 01:10:33.420 --> 01:10:35.300 Yeah. And that's what he said. 01:10:35.380 --> 01:10:36.020 So they're all like. 01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:41.960 What the fuck? But, you know, the other day, the one thing that's very crystal 01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:46.320 clear, what this whole battle is, look, these guys, 01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:52.720 honestly, their ideal world, which guys, which guys, these billion. 01:10:52.860 --> 01:10:53.560 These guys like. 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.700 Trump and his billionaire friends or whatever, the guys I want to, 01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.740 the guys I want to go and set up, they are fucking like free, 01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:04.920 you know, you know, this, this libertarian, like freedom state in Greenland 01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:08.980 or wherever the fuck or yes, where the hell they, they want to do it or wherever 01:11:08.980 --> 01:11:11.940 the hell they want to do it. I think their entire, 01:11:14.480 --> 01:11:18.640 vision is that we can go set this up. 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:25.100 They're going to replace all the professional class of people like you and me with AI. 01:11:26.140 --> 01:11:33.260 And then we can pay a whole bunch of low-level schlubs to do the rest of the 01:11:33.260 --> 01:11:35.420 shit that we can't do with AI. 01:11:36.140 --> 01:11:39.780 I mean, that's what they want. Mm-hmm. This is. 01:11:39.780 --> 01:11:41.160 Why they are so. 01:11:41.160 --> 01:11:48.660 Hell-bent on, you know, anybody who is some kind of smart, educated, 01:11:48.860 --> 01:11:51.640 professional with information, fuck you, no. 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:56.880 RFK Jr. is going to tell you what the results are going to be of the autism research. 01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:00.200 You know, you could replace RFK Jr. 01:12:00.480 --> 01:12:03.680 With an AI, too. Well, actually, we could. 01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:09.860 Listen, if we put an LLM right now versus RFK Jr., we would be getting better 01:12:09.860 --> 01:12:11.980 results. I mean, a lot better results. 01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:17.640 So this is a case where I would be in favor of AI taking over, like, immediately. 01:12:19.660 --> 01:12:23.700 As long as you don't train it on RFK Jr.'s writings. 01:12:24.200 --> 01:12:28.040 You know, I, years ago. 01:12:28.400 --> 01:12:29.740 Yes, years ago. 01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:31.760 Somebody had posed. 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:38.960 This question to me about different managers and, you know, what their effects are on companies. 01:12:39.140 --> 01:12:44.100 And I had segmented people as leaders into a few different categories, okay? 01:12:44.420 --> 01:12:49.580 So you got the guys who are the visionary, proactive guys, okay? 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:53.520 Come into a company, say a guy like Steve Jobs, okay? 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:58.880 This guy is visionary. He understands and he also is a leader and he also is 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:03.020 able to recruit a lot of talented people and he was able to change things and 01:13:03.020 --> 01:13:05.840 he was able to develop things and he was able to grow a business and he was 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.620 able to, to, to take something in a, 01:13:08.780 --> 01:13:13.300 you know, that was being run before by some maybe professional management, 01:13:13.300 --> 01:13:17.140 but didn't have the right vision into something that, that is, 01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:20.540 that grows and, and that people want to be working at. 01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:23.360 And that is, that is heavily improved. Okay. 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:29.100 So you got that guy. Then you've got the guys that I say, these are, 01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:31.540 these are the lazy executives. 01:13:31.980 --> 01:13:36.900 Okay. They don't, they may not be necessarily out, but you know, they may be very smart. 01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:40.780 They may be dumb, whatever, but it's the, it's the lazy class. 01:13:41.260 --> 01:13:45.720 And the lazy class is, Hey, if I come into a company that's, 01:13:46.020 --> 01:13:47.820 Hey, everything's running fine or whatever. 01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:50.480 I'm just getting my checks. There's a good professional staff in there. 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:52.020 I'm not going to do anything. 01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:56.020 I'm not going to fucking do anything. Why the fuck am I going to do anything? Everything's working. 01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.380 All these people write my reports. I just show up. I'm like Queen Elizabeth going around here. 01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:06.340 Whatever. I collect for a few, five, four, five years. 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:09.360 Student numbers go to the next job, whatever. And I didn't fuck up anything 01:14:09.360 --> 01:14:12.800 and nothing happened. Everything's good. And I had some of those managers. It was great. 01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:16.180 You know, look, you had an executive. He was the leader. He wasn't involved 01:14:16.180 --> 01:14:17.240 in anything. Listen, no problem. 01:14:17.380 --> 01:14:20.020 Just don't say anything. Don't do anything. Don't worry about it. 01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:21.300 We got everything covered. 01:14:21.400 --> 01:14:24.360 We don't really need you. We don't need you to do anything. Don't worry about 01:14:24.360 --> 01:14:26.880 it. Okay. Just stay over there. All good. 01:14:27.380 --> 01:14:30.120 Everything will be fine. Don't worry about it. Just don't. Yes. 01:14:30.420 --> 01:14:32.760 Don't. We don't need your idea. We don't need any. We don't. 01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:35.340 We don't really need anything. Just, just stay over there. You know, 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:37.820 go, go fly business class, go spend money. 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:40.380 You're good. You're good. No, no problem. So you got those. 01:14:41.100 --> 01:14:44.760 But then you get, unfortunately, you know, you get the, the, 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:49.060 the idiot proactive people. So this is the, 01:14:49.940 --> 01:14:55.440 football okay and this is really like donald trump okay really where the guy 01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:58.580 is a moron okay yes okay but instead of. 01:14:58.580 --> 01:14:59.540 Doing like the lazy. 01:14:59.540 --> 01:15:03.900 Executive which you could just listen everything was running sam you didn't 01:15:03.900 --> 01:15:09.000 have to do anything all you have to do is like look i'll just name a few generic 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:15.800 guys look there's a lot i come in there there's a lot there's a lot to be said for. 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.240 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yes! Yes! 01:15:19.500 --> 01:15:24.320 You just come in, fuck, you go down to Mar-a-Lago, you play golf, 01:15:25.040 --> 01:15:29.360 you go and, like, you know, you fuck all the hookers that you want. I don't care. 01:15:30.220 --> 01:15:33.620 Give all the pardons you want. Pardon whoever the fuck you want, whatever. 01:15:33.860 --> 01:15:37.680 But, you know, you put a few competent people around and these different things, 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:41.360 you just sit around and just say, hey, as long as I get my pardons, 01:15:41.380 --> 01:15:42.800 as long as I get my whatever, 01:15:43.620 --> 01:15:48.360 you do whatever you know don't worry about it whatever but no no that's not 01:15:48.360 --> 01:15:53.100 what we got what we got is proactive and dumb where basically he thinks he needs 01:15:53.100 --> 01:15:58.640 to fix everything but he's an idiot so basically everything that he done is 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.520 a wreck and I've seen these guys in corporate, 01:16:01.500 --> 01:16:06.680 these are the same shit as what this guy is doing they don't know anything they 01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:10.460 have all the wrong ideas they don't listen to anybody that's smart and they 01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:13.660 keep just plowing ahead until they fucking just fuck up everything. 01:16:14.820 --> 01:16:15.860 And this is what we do. 01:16:16.850 --> 01:16:21.210 This is what we have. It's the class of executive, the worst I've always feared. 01:16:21.230 --> 01:16:23.750 These are the worst people that there is. 01:16:23.970 --> 01:16:27.770 I am all for having lazy executives, to be honest. 01:16:28.030 --> 01:16:33.090 Okay. I, you know, I'm happier with a fucking lazy executive. 01:16:33.370 --> 01:16:33.790 I 01:16:33.790 --> 01:16:35.410 Mean, look, there are certain. 01:16:35.410 --> 01:16:39.730 Situations where if you just coast like that, eventually it causes problems. 01:16:40.250 --> 01:16:45.570 But a lot of the time, it's not that bad. plus if you have to if you're in a. 01:16:45.570 --> 01:16:51.450 Healthy place to stay if you hired the right people yes yes then they'll call. 01:16:51.450 --> 01:16:52.570 Hey boss we. 01:16:52.570 --> 01:16:59.150 Got a fire okay well can you can you you know can you can you extinguish a fire, 01:16:59.770 --> 01:17:04.970 yeah yeah yeah I got okay great do it okay alright let me know if you need anything okay bye that's it, 01:17:05.690 --> 01:17:07.850 you know I don't want anything else, 01:17:08.910 --> 01:17:10.930 but we're not in there Sam we have, 01:17:12.230 --> 01:17:17.110 in Spanish I called him my nickname for this guy I just haven't found how to 01:17:17.110 --> 01:17:21.610 translate this well it's a proactivo pendejo okay that this is. 01:17:21.610 --> 01:17:22.630 This is the type of. 01:17:22.630 --> 01:17:27.110 Manager that that you know that Donald Trump is he's proactive, 01:17:27.790 --> 01:17:34.650 and my pendejo is dumbass he's inept but proactive it's the worst combination 01:17:34.650 --> 01:17:39.670 ever to have somebody that's inept and proactive you don't want that ever you 01:17:39.670 --> 01:17:42.150 really don't want that But we've got that. 01:17:42.550 --> 01:17:46.910 And Sam, you know, it's only been two months. 01:17:47.610 --> 01:17:50.370 Well, three now. 01:17:51.190 --> 01:17:52.150 Almost. Almost three. 01:17:53.030 --> 01:17:54.710 February, March, April. 01:17:55.190 --> 01:17:57.450 It's only been three fucking months, man. 01:18:01.700 --> 01:18:08.320 And so many, he right now has the worst approval rating of anybody in this short 01:18:08.320 --> 01:18:09.740 amount of time, except himself. 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.020 Although that still, by the way, gets me. 01:18:13.140 --> 01:18:16.920 Like every time people bring up that stat, I'm like, really? 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:22.980 He is more liked now than at the same point eight years ago? 01:18:23.140 --> 01:18:24.960 I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:32.260 I'm going to tell you why. because a big part in the first time that he lost 01:18:32.260 --> 01:18:36.680 some of the MAGA people because he wasn't doing what he's doing now, 01:18:37.260 --> 01:18:43.020 because they expect to be more aggressive instead of naming these the Rex Tillerson's 01:18:43.020 --> 01:18:44.220 of the world and that kind of stuff. 01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:49.480 So now those guys are a little bit more solid because he's doing that part. 01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:52.520 That I think is the difference. 01:18:54.320 --> 01:18:55.800 Yeah, I don't know. 01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:02.160 Like, to me, it's just objectively, like, he's so... Like, he was bad last time, 01:19:02.260 --> 01:19:03.540 but he's worse this time. 01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:06.520 He is actively way. 01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:13.120 Way, way worse. Yes. But you're just saying some people actually like the worse. 01:19:13.140 --> 01:19:16.940 And so that's why... Correct. Whereas before, he was pissing off. 01:19:16.940 --> 01:19:22.940 Those guys because he wasn't doing enough, and pissing us off because he was still being... 01:19:23.420 --> 01:19:25.880 Incompetent idiot. Okay. 01:19:26.300 --> 01:19:29.180 Well, I mean, incompetent idiot, because that was the whole immigration thing. 01:19:29.320 --> 01:19:34.240 That now, now we're even, you know, in a worse thing. Okay. 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.940 Let's, I think we should take our break now. 01:19:38.580 --> 01:19:42.480 Cause we're, we're, we're running low on time and I do want to make sure we 01:19:42.480 --> 01:19:48.800 do cover the legal stuff. Cause there's the whole, is he finally just actively 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:50.740 defying SCOTUS at this point? 01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:53.440 And that whole, Well, before we go to legal stuff. 01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:59.040 Well, actually, before we go into that, do one quick thing. Just one quick subject 01:19:59.040 --> 01:20:00.180 before we get into the legal. Okay. 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:04.460 Insert this. Because there was a whole bunch of women went into space, 01:20:04.500 --> 01:20:06.940 and they got a lot of hate. Okay. 01:20:07.460 --> 01:20:10.660 We'll just throw this in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:15.980 It's just the intermission between the, you know, continue to talk about it. 01:20:15.980 --> 01:20:16.880 Intermission, yeah. Yeah. 01:20:17.860 --> 01:20:21.300 So, I mean, are they just getting hate because people are just pissed off at 01:20:21.300 --> 01:20:22.540 the billionaires like right now? 01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:26.900 I guess that's, I mean, it's a good reason, but is that it? 01:20:27.180 --> 01:20:30.740 No, I think there's a little bit more to that. I mean, yes, people are pissed 01:20:30.740 --> 01:20:35.000 off at the billionaires. Yes, people are pissed off that it was just a bunch of famous people. 01:20:35.280 --> 01:20:40.220 But I think part of it was also the disconnect between like the marketing of 01:20:40.220 --> 01:20:45.100 it was like, oh, look, so inspiring, an all-woman crew, blah, blah, blah. 01:20:46.320 --> 01:20:52.300 Whereas the reality was it's a bunch of rich tourists on an 11-minute ride. 01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:59.720 Meanwhile, you've had really prominent, serious women astronauts for a long 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.380 time now. Ah, but the thing is. 01:21:02.380 --> 01:21:03.140 This wasn't. 01:21:03.180 --> 01:21:07.660 Well, and look, and they sort of acted kind of silly, too. 01:21:07.900 --> 01:21:14.880 So they weren't like, ooh, serious, blah, blah, blah. They acted silly and goofy on their thing. 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:20.360 And, you know, it was just sort of the, it was almost tried to show, 01:21:20.860 --> 01:21:26.200 down people's throats, look, this is an amazing milestone of the all-female 01:21:26.200 --> 01:21:27.380 crew and blah, blah, blah. 01:21:27.700 --> 01:21:32.960 Whereas the way this particular space capsule works, they're all just passengers. 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:34.680 It's all remotely operated. 01:21:34.860 --> 01:21:37.820 They're not doing anything. It just goes up and down. 01:21:38.020 --> 01:21:43.280 I saw a lot of people as well saying things like, wait, I thought Katy Perry 01:21:43.280 --> 01:21:45.520 was going to be in space for like a month or something. 01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:48.320 It was 11 minutes. What the hell are you talking about? 01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:53.380 She's back already. But I do think that and I listen. 01:21:53.580 --> 01:22:00.880 I think this translates from everything that's going on in terms of the backlash 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:06.800 is because of what is this assault on on? 01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:15.740 It's this assault from the billionaire class on what is the I call now it's 01:22:15.740 --> 01:22:18.160 like the medium upper class of America. 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:22.200 That that is because that is what it is and i and i think that's that that's 01:22:22.200 --> 01:22:26.620 the whole thing where you know they go around riding in rockets where you know 01:22:26.620 --> 01:22:30.540 you've got must saying that you know oh you're a scientist and they and age 01:22:30.540 --> 01:22:34.680 fuck you you're you know you're worthless well and i i think that's a number 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.340 of people have pointed out the disconnect of. 01:22:37.340 --> 01:22:44.880 Like celebrating like this all woman crew etc while meanwhile they're laying off hundreds, 01:22:45.380 --> 01:22:48.740 hundreds of women scientists at NASA. Exactly. Right. 01:22:49.660 --> 01:22:55.100 And CDC and wherever. So that's in the middle of all of this, it's kind of like just. 01:22:55.280 --> 01:23:00.900 You know, fuck off. Really, you know, whatever. I get it. Yeah. So, okay. 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:03.900 Okay. We can take that break now? Yeah. 01:23:04.360 --> 01:23:05.480 Okay. Here we go. 01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:16.100 You're listening to this podcast. Do you like it? No! Do you want to support the show? No! 01:23:17.120 --> 01:23:21.640 Well, after you have subscribed to the show, followed us on Facebook, 01:23:21.860 --> 01:23:28.520 and told all your friends they should be listening to, what else can you do? 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And look, instead of sedatives. 01:25:04.620 --> 01:25:11.740 Send me whiskey. Send me scotch. We'll go on Jeff Bezos' spaceship. 01:25:14.120 --> 01:25:14.940 I don't want. 01:25:14.940 --> 01:25:19.940 To go on a fucking spaceship. I don't know. I'll wait for once I can go to orbit. 01:25:20.480 --> 01:25:22.120 I want it to go like. 01:25:22.160 --> 01:25:25.400 You know, in like 2001. Those might be more dangerous than helicopters. 01:25:25.740 --> 01:25:27.000 Listen, I want it to go. 01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:31.500 I wanted it to be like it was in the movie 2001. Yes. Yes. 01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:34.080 You say, you know, we get on this. 01:25:34.080 --> 01:25:37.660 Plane and we get to the space station. That's a hotel. If it was like that, then yes. 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.860 You know, it feels like going on an airplane trip, kind of like that. 01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:44.820 Then yes, that's what I want. You don't want to pay. 01:25:44.820 --> 01:25:50.340 A million dollars plus for an 11-minute ride up and down again? Not exactly, no. No? 01:25:50.480 --> 01:25:52.380 No no no. 01:25:52.380 --> 01:25:53.000 Not at all. 01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.500 I don't see why not it's. 01:25:55.500 --> 01:25:57.840 A little bit uh pricey. 01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.360 A little pricey i'm sure the price. 01:26:00.360 --> 01:26:02.780 Will come down at some point hope. 01:26:02.780 --> 01:26:08.420 You know 50 be like a helicopter ride but of course you know those aren't very 01:26:08.420 --> 01:26:12.620 safe as i've mentioned i'm sure like yeah yes. 01:26:12.620 --> 01:26:20.820 Eventually you know So SpaceX and Blue Origin have done well so far. 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.220 They haven't killed anybody yet. 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:28.640 But look, let's be honest. It's only a matter of time, right? Listen, I want, yes. 01:26:28.900 --> 01:26:31.300 And if it's going to be that they're going to kill somebody, 01:26:31.480 --> 01:26:36.020 may it please be Elon Musk and his maiden voyage. As I've pointed out before. 01:26:36.020 --> 01:26:37.800 He's the only one of these billionaires 01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:41.460 who hasn't ridden on their own spaceship. Well, you know what? 01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:43.860 Maybe he's not as dumb as I thought he is. 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:52.000 Okay, so let's start. The main legal thing is there have been a number of cases 01:26:52.000 --> 01:27:00.260 bopping up and down the court system, but the one that has gotten the most attention over the last week, 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.740 although I shouldn't say that, there's competition for this. 01:27:04.060 --> 01:27:06.580 I mean, most attention. It's like, I mean. 01:27:06.700 --> 01:27:11.360 Every day is a fucking like shit show of, you know, new shit that we're arguing 01:27:11.360 --> 01:27:14.300 about. Well, the one I was going to. 01:27:14.300 --> 01:27:18.500 Start with is the case about what was his, what's his name? 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:22.440 I always, you know, I suck at names. Which one? Which one? 01:27:22.860 --> 01:27:26.620 The guy mistakenly sent to El Salvador. Kilmar. Kilmar. 01:27:27.360 --> 01:27:34.240 Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. There you go. But I'm going to pronounce it Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. 01:27:34.780 --> 01:27:36.480 I'm not even going to attempt that. 01:27:38.820 --> 01:27:42.420 Anyway, that made it all the way up to SCOTUS, and SCOTUS basically said, 01:27:42.540 --> 01:27:46.640 yes, the lower court is right. Facilitate getting this guy. 01:27:47.240 --> 01:27:51.560 They did say something about like, let's clarify what they meant by effectuate, 01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:53.300 but we're going to say facilitate. 01:27:54.080 --> 01:28:00.380 And so it went back down to the lower court and the lower court needs to make it happen. Well, yes. 01:28:00.540 --> 01:28:01.880 But they wanted to specifically. 01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:06.180 Say like what was within scope and what was not like, for instance, 01:28:06.320 --> 01:28:09.120 you could argue that effectuate means do it at all costs. 01:28:09.120 --> 01:28:15.340 If you have to, if you have to send the army to invade and physically take over 01:28:15.340 --> 01:28:18.420 the country in order to get him back, the court is ordering that. 01:28:18.660 --> 01:28:22.420 And the Supreme Court might not go along with going that far. 01:28:25.860 --> 01:28:28.720 But you clearly wouldn't need to go that far, right? 01:28:30.240 --> 01:28:33.260 Donald Trump could say, we changed our mind, bring him back, 01:28:33.380 --> 01:28:35.960 and he'd be back. Given that the Senator Chris Van. 01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:39.280 Hollen very doggedly and persistently finally got to meet him. 01:28:40.140 --> 01:28:42.340 Right. But anyway, the point was. 01:28:42.460 --> 01:28:45.960 SCOTUS said, facilitate it. It went back to the lower courts. 01:28:46.180 --> 01:28:52.600 The lower court was like, I want you to tell me right away, what's this guy's current status? 01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.640 What are you doing to get him back? 01:28:54.900 --> 01:29:01.300 And the Trump administration has been basically bullshitting him over and over 01:29:01.300 --> 01:29:03.220 and over. He asked for daily updates. 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:08.920 They've given him bullshit daily updates and basically have said they're not 01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:11.420 doing anything and there's nothing they can do. 01:29:11.420 --> 01:29:20.840 They at one point said, like, we believe our obligation to facilitate is done if like, if, 01:29:21.410 --> 01:29:26.030 at the border. We acknowledge that he showed up and we arrest him, 01:29:26.030 --> 01:29:29.730 but we can't make El Salvador do anything. 01:29:30.110 --> 01:29:34.390 And meanwhile, you know, the president of El Salvador is like, what are we going to do? 01:29:34.690 --> 01:29:39.050 Smuggle him back to the U.S.? In the Oval Office, by the way, 01:29:39.170 --> 01:29:40.410 this conversation happening. 01:29:41.790 --> 01:29:44.790 But basically... Well, I'm hoping that the. 01:29:44.790 --> 01:29:50.890 Senator goes and gets a private jet, just loads them up and just brings them over. 01:29:52.890 --> 01:29:59.210 So far, the president and vice president of El Salvador have both posted after 01:29:59.210 --> 01:30:02.710 that meeting, basically making fun of the whole thing and saying, like, 01:30:02.950 --> 01:30:09.790 look, look, he got out of the death camp and was sitting there having margaritas with the senator. 01:30:10.290 --> 01:30:13.610 And now his reward. Well, those two guys are clowns. 01:30:14.210 --> 01:30:15.550 And now the reward. 01:30:15.550 --> 01:30:18.670 He can go back into the custody of El Salvador. 01:30:19.370 --> 01:30:23.150 They're not giving him up right now to the senator. At least not. 01:30:23.210 --> 01:30:25.130 Well, let's be clear. Let's be clear. 01:30:25.390 --> 01:30:28.450 For days, they were refusing to even let him meet him. Right. 01:30:29.170 --> 01:30:34.430 They finally wound up letting him meet. And apparently the senator is very fucking 01:30:34.430 --> 01:30:36.310 persistent. Okay. So I'm going to give him. 01:30:36.450 --> 01:30:43.090 I keep wanting to turn back to the main point here is not actually what's going on with this guy. 01:30:43.090 --> 01:30:53.210 Although it's the fact that the Trump administration has been blatantly not cooperating. 01:30:54.010 --> 01:31:00.490 With what the Supreme Court said to say. I mean, what they have been hiding behind. 01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:05.290 And they've done this on purpose, obviously. They have been trying to say. 01:31:05.910 --> 01:31:09.430 According to on— Hey, he's a citizen from El Salvador. 01:31:09.430 --> 01:31:13.310 And we sent him to El Salvador. What can we do? Well, right. 01:31:13.390 --> 01:31:14.270 They've been doing that. 01:31:14.410 --> 01:31:18.910 They've been quibbling about the wording. They've been saying the courts can't 01:31:18.910 --> 01:31:22.170 tell the executive branch how to do foreign policy. 01:31:22.390 --> 01:31:25.550 They're right. But they've also at various points been refusing to actually 01:31:25.550 --> 01:31:27.810 give meaningful updates on the status. 01:31:28.070 --> 01:31:30.850 Right. They've been refusing to say what we what they have done. 01:31:31.130 --> 01:31:40.910 They've they've, you know, basically, like they have been trying to make arguments 01:31:40.910 --> 01:31:46.990 about why what they're doing is actually in compliance. 01:31:46.990 --> 01:31:51.590 And in fact, like Stephen Miller and Donald Trump have even been saying that 01:31:51.590 --> 01:31:56.430 the Supreme Court ruling was 9-0 in their favor, as opposed to 9-0 against them. 01:31:56.510 --> 01:31:59.010 They're trying to like distort reality like they do. 01:32:00.090 --> 01:32:01.790 And they're trying to. 01:32:03.070 --> 01:32:05.470 Yes. But, but the, the. 01:32:05.470 --> 01:32:13.490 The, the, the judge in this particular case as ordered a week and a half of 01:32:13.490 --> 01:32:17.830 discovery of like, you know, you're going to bring in people to testify to tell 01:32:17.830 --> 01:32:19.790 me exactly when, where, and how, 01:32:19.990 --> 01:32:22.410 you know, things have been going on. 01:32:22.530 --> 01:32:27.290 The other court dealing with the more general transportation of people to that 01:32:27.290 --> 01:32:32.750 prison has already said that there, I forget the exact terminology. 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:38.620 It's one step short of them, but it probably will cause that they are in contempt 01:32:38.620 --> 01:32:43.200 of court or something like that and has issued more conversations. 01:32:43.460 --> 01:32:47.480 I always get these two cases confused, so I apologize because they're going on parallel tracks. 01:32:47.660 --> 01:32:51.980 But both of them are essentially at the point of declaring the administration 01:32:51.980 --> 01:32:53.260 in contempt. On contempt. 01:32:53.480 --> 01:32:57.720 And some of the questions are who exactly would be in contempt? 01:32:57.720 --> 01:32:59.720 Is it the lawyer who's saying something? 01:32:59.940 --> 01:33:04.240 Is it some administration official? I would start with a fucking lawyer. 01:33:05.080 --> 01:33:08.420 And then work your way up, right. Yeah, basically, yeah. 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:12.600 Well, and, you know, they— And this is criminal contempt. 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:15.600 So— Potentially, but there's a problem there. 01:33:15.620 --> 01:33:18.700 Too, because normally, how would criminal contempt work? 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:23.620 It would be a referral to the DOJ in order to go after them. 01:33:23.940 --> 01:33:26.720 No, no, no, no, no, no. The judge— Wait, wait. 01:33:26.780 --> 01:33:27.800 Wait. No, no, no, no. 01:33:27.940 --> 01:33:28.980 No, no. That's not— No. 01:33:29.280 --> 01:33:30.760 The judge can do— The judge. 01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:32.340 The judge can do certain things. 01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.240 The judge can declare that they are, okay, this is, no, you're talking about, 01:33:36.380 --> 01:33:38.840 you're confusing it in error of contempt. No. 01:33:39.360 --> 01:33:43.000 No, you're talking, no, no, no. A judge can, listen, a judge can declare you 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:44.900 in contempt of jail and order you to jail. 01:33:45.280 --> 01:33:47.760 Yes, yes, yes, they can. But a couple of different things. 01:33:48.080 --> 01:33:51.020 The particular modes of contempt that are being talked about here, 01:33:51.120 --> 01:33:52.760 there are a couple options that have been talked about. 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:57.360 One is the referral to DOJ, which would obviously go nowhere. 01:33:57.360 --> 01:34:04.540 One of the judges had specifically said they would assign a different lawyer to do the prosecution. 01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:10.400 And then, as you said, under certain circumstances, the judge can just say, 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.360 you're going to jail until you cooperate. 01:34:12.980 --> 01:34:14.840 Yeah. You know, and. 01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:15.880 That's yet a. 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:19.560 Different type. So all of these are potentially in play, but the question is 01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:23.720 who, what, where, how the administration 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.640 has already appealed one of the notices of potential contempt. 01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:33.220 And so, and that, yeah, these things are bound. 01:34:33.810 --> 01:34:39.010 Down the courts. It is inevitable that this will go back to SCOTUS again, 01:34:39.330 --> 01:34:42.810 but probably both of these cases will end up at SCOTUS again. 01:34:43.310 --> 01:34:51.350 And then we see, does SCOTUS get even more strenuous in what they say, 01:34:51.350 --> 01:34:53.970 or do they try to back down a little bit? 01:34:54.050 --> 01:34:58.670 I mentioned last week that even within SCOTUS's orders here, 01:34:58.870 --> 01:35:04.030 they left wiggle room for the administration to play the kind of games they're playing. 01:35:04.350 --> 01:35:09.810 Do they order, do they issue another ruling with less wiggle room or not? 01:35:09.970 --> 01:35:15.350 Cause they don't really want the straight up confrontation with Donald Trump. They want to avoid that. 01:35:15.510 --> 01:35:20.650 They're hoping at some point, like you said, like maybe this gets resolved because 01:35:20.650 --> 01:35:26.430 you know, the, the, the, they end up, the guy gets to go home. 01:35:26.730 --> 01:35:29.610 Now, Stephen Miller and others have said 01:35:29.610 --> 01:35:34.030 like explicitly okay the when 01:35:34.030 --> 01:35:38.430 we messed up here it's because there was a judge's order on the book saying 01:35:38.430 --> 01:35:42.530 we couldn't send him back to el salvador it doesn't say anything about anywhere 01:35:42.530 --> 01:35:46.770 else in the world if he steps foot back in the u.s we're immediately going to 01:35:46.770 --> 01:35:51.630 expel him again but send him to yamina or somewhere i mean for. 01:35:51.630 --> 01:35:57.930 For what reason they had no reason to expel him anyway, either. Well, they claim. 01:35:57.930 --> 01:36:01.770 There are many reasons. Of course, that's all in dispute and they haven't provided 01:36:01.770 --> 01:36:09.710 the evidence needed, which is why, you know, yes, yes. 01:36:11.610 --> 01:36:16.090 And so the thing is with all of this is, you know, people have been trying to 01:36:16.090 --> 01:36:20.970 parse words or of like, when do we hit the constitutional crisis? 01:36:21.510 --> 01:36:27.270 Like on one extreme, like you could say the very first time that Donald Trump 01:36:27.270 --> 01:36:30.830 didn't do exactly what the lower court judge said, you were already there. 01:36:31.430 --> 01:36:35.250 Now there's an argument that says, well, now he's directly violating what SCOTUS 01:36:35.250 --> 01:36:37.430 said. So now we're there for sure, right? 01:36:37.870 --> 01:36:41.030 And then you could argue, well, yeah, but SCOTUS left some wiggle room. 01:36:41.130 --> 01:36:44.570 Let's let it get back to SCOTUS again, and then maybe we're there. 01:36:44.790 --> 01:36:50.350 But the bottom line, I think, is that absolutely everything Donald Trump has 01:36:50.350 --> 01:36:54.510 been doing his second term is a constitutional crisis from beginning to end. 01:36:54.510 --> 01:37:01.890 Because the one fundamental characteristic of Donald Trump's presidency the 01:37:01.890 --> 01:37:07.350 second time around is to not worry about the law is, just do whatever the fuck 01:37:07.350 --> 01:37:09.210 you want and wait for them to stop you. 01:37:09.570 --> 01:37:13.470 And fundamentally, as far as I'm concerned, you're already at a crisis at that 01:37:13.470 --> 01:37:17.730 point because you've lost the respect for the process. But I'll tell you what. 01:37:17.870 --> 01:37:24.490 Listen, the main reason of a crisis right now is because you simply have one branch. 01:37:24.850 --> 01:37:29.370 Okay, you have the executive branch who is basically saying, 01:37:30.130 --> 01:37:32.730 I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Okay? 01:37:33.050 --> 01:37:36.230 The judicial branch has been making orders against them. 01:37:36.330 --> 01:37:41.630 They have been ignoring them. But the reality is that your third check and balance 01:37:41.630 --> 01:37:45.170 here is supposed to be our Congress. 01:37:45.510 --> 01:37:50.510 And Congress has basically abdicated their 01:37:50.510 --> 01:37:55.490 responsibility to do anything about this guy well i mean they they're they're 01:37:55.490 --> 01:38:00.610 they're but look at all but look at all the ways like with with with expenditures 01:38:00.610 --> 01:38:06.070 with the tariffs no i know but here's the thing though and i know we talked about murkowski. 01:38:06.070 --> 01:38:06.890 Talking about how. 01:38:06.890 --> 01:38:07.670 People are scared. 01:38:07.670 --> 01:38:11.970 And we've talked about that before but yes there are some people who are scared 01:38:11.970 --> 01:38:15.210 but the current congress is, 01:38:15.770 --> 01:38:20.750 MAGA than it was two years ago or four years ago or eight years ago, 01:38:20.970 --> 01:38:26.610 there is a significant portion of the Congress who is absolutely fine with this. 01:38:26.730 --> 01:38:31.670 It's not that they are like, oh, we want to restrain him, but we're afraid. 01:38:31.870 --> 01:38:35.850 I mean, there certainly are some people in that category, but for the most part, 01:38:36.170 --> 01:38:41.350 like they're, they're like, I'm not going to say for the most part, because we know, okay. 01:38:41.450 --> 01:38:45.130 They are complicit, but you've got, remember, you've got the different groups 01:38:45.130 --> 01:38:46.890 here. Okay. You do. You do. 01:38:47.590 --> 01:38:53.710 And there is, and a lot of the Republicans, you know, a significant number. Okay. All right. 01:38:54.190 --> 01:38:58.050 You know, more than enough to be able to impeach Donald Trump. Okay. 01:38:58.710 --> 01:39:02.170 Despite something that he's doing is illegal, but, but their constituents would 01:39:02.170 --> 01:39:05.450 hang him on effigy or hang him directly. 01:39:05.450 --> 01:39:07.850 Or hang him directly, which that's been their. 01:39:07.850 --> 01:39:11.910 Their, their fear. So, you know, and, and that's the reality. 01:39:12.150 --> 01:39:17.350 You've got a number of people there. more than enough to take action that aren't 01:39:17.350 --> 01:39:21.270 doing it simply because they are scared and that's why Alyssa Markoski was saying 01:39:21.270 --> 01:39:25.550 it because she knows that that's the case I think realistically whatever their. 01:39:25.550 --> 01:39:33.110 Motivations or not the we are so far away from a scenario where this Congress 01:39:33.110 --> 01:39:36.930 would actually do jack well and that's the reason why I. 01:39:37.330 --> 01:39:43.510 To a certain extent unfortunately and I not that I I relish having a, 01:39:44.670 --> 01:39:50.890 economic, you know, recession or worse at this moment, but it's about the only 01:39:50.890 --> 01:39:53.750 thing that's going to shake people out of this is that, you know, 01:39:53.870 --> 01:39:58.010 it's like I mentioned, there's just no other way that it's going to shape Congress into action. 01:39:58.530 --> 01:40:04.270 None other. These guys are not going to do a damn thing unless their constituents 01:40:04.270 --> 01:40:06.290 all of a sudden are unemployed, 01:40:07.090 --> 01:40:12.450 can't afford shit, and they're all pissed off yelling at them about what the 01:40:12.450 --> 01:40:14.870 fuck. Well, and the key part. 01:40:14.870 --> 01:40:20.970 There is the general population in those red districts has to not only be in 01:40:20.970 --> 01:40:23.430 pain, but actually blame Donald Trump for it. 01:40:23.810 --> 01:40:26.390 Yeah. And I have no confidence that they will. 01:40:26.810 --> 01:40:29.970 I think that one thing when it comes to the economy. 01:40:30.110 --> 01:40:37.490 They always blame whoever the fuck is president. Hmm. You know, that's just the fact. 01:40:37.490 --> 01:40:42.210 You know, look, W1 re-election, you know, even with all the shit that happened 01:40:42.210 --> 01:40:47.110 and whatever, and the Republicans didn't get their asses handed to them until 01:40:47.110 --> 01:40:48.430 they fucking crashed the economy. 01:40:49.070 --> 01:40:50.770 Simple as that. Yeah. 01:40:51.500 --> 01:40:57.920 You know, as much of a shithead as Carville is these days, the economy, 01:40:58.040 --> 01:41:03.000 stupid, was, you know, right on. He's fucking right. 01:41:03.340 --> 01:41:12.920 These guys are not going to change their worldview until it fucking slams their pocketbook. Period. 01:41:13.360 --> 01:41:15.160 It's all self-interest. 01:41:15.660 --> 01:41:20.380 Everything. every single one of these guys that you've seen that are there were 01:41:20.380 --> 01:41:25.360 all that that are like all of a sudden there were that are all that i'm not 01:41:25.360 --> 01:41:29.600 not on social media not only self-interest but immediate. 01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:36.800 Right now impossible to ignore self-interest because if you try to explain to them how something. 01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:37.600 Will affect them. 01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.780 Like five years in the future no no no no well i'm talking about. 01:41:40.780 --> 01:41:43.640 I'm talking yeah we're talking about how all these guys 01:41:43.640 --> 01:41:46.400 on social media that right now are crying that they voted for trump 01:41:46.400 --> 01:41:49.180 and they lost their job because he didn't think he was coming after 01:41:49.180 --> 01:41:52.960 them or they got the or they got or they got profiled he didn't think he was 01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:58.700 coming after them or blah blah blah it's it's all because it hit them straight 01:41:58.700 --> 01:42:03.840 you know on that forehead with a two by four that's what that's how they realized 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.540 oh fuck yeah he really was he really fucked me, 01:42:07.620 --> 01:42:09.240 well even then i. 01:42:09.240 --> 01:42:15.560 Like i heard who who was it there was somebody doing interviews with like farmers 01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:20.940 that were getting screwed by the tariffs that are already in place, right? 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:23.580 Well, I'm sure there are a number of stuff still. 01:42:23.660 --> 01:42:27.280 You know, still will fucking like smash your balls with a hammer anyway. Well, no. 01:42:29.400 --> 01:42:31.440 They specifically said, well. 01:42:31.540 --> 01:42:34.180 We got hurt by the tariffs last time Donald Trump was in here, 01:42:34.320 --> 01:42:36.920 but he saved us with a bailout. We expect him to do it again. 01:42:37.900 --> 01:42:39.820 Yeah, that's true, but he's not. 01:42:39.820 --> 01:42:42.420 Going to bail out people who are going to go shop for cars pretty soon. 01:42:43.220 --> 01:42:46.720 He's not going to be able to. Yvonne, I think you're missing. 01:42:47.710 --> 01:42:49.630 I think you're missing something important. 01:42:50.010 --> 01:42:56.530 Which is? The launch of the new Trump-branded automobiles. 01:42:56.870 --> 01:42:59.330 Oh, those are going to go up against the Teslas. 01:42:59.450 --> 01:43:01.750 Huh? Teslas already have a T. 01:43:01.990 --> 01:43:04.730 You just have to change the front. That was just Trump. 01:43:05.310 --> 01:43:11.290 Fuck Tesla. It's going to be the Trump Model Y. In gold. Gold edition. 01:43:11.750 --> 01:43:12.670 Gold edition. 01:43:13.110 --> 01:43:13.670 Yes. 01:43:14.250 --> 01:43:14.850 Exactly. 01:43:15.190 --> 01:43:16.210 I like this. 01:43:16.410 --> 01:43:17.050 There you go. 01:43:17.870 --> 01:43:20.810 Every car now we're back in the 90s we're 01:43:20.810 --> 01:43:23.850 gonna have gold editions they're gonna have little 01:43:23.850 --> 01:43:30.610 gold like doorknobs little gold striping a little fake gold you know shit all 01:43:30.610 --> 01:43:35.310 over the place like the fucking oval office now we see fucking oval office looks 01:43:35.310 --> 01:43:40.850 like a goddamn fucking like room at a vegas brothel now, 01:43:43.550 --> 01:43:44.090 Well. 01:43:44.270 --> 01:43:51.810 Ed, you know, and the government could pay Tesla for the Trump branded cars 01:43:51.810 --> 01:43:55.710 and give them out free and give them out free. Yes, we will give. 01:43:55.890 --> 01:44:00.230 You know, so it's it's so it's like it goes back to the Nazi plan, 01:44:00.450 --> 01:44:05.150 the car for everybody, the Volkswagen, the Volkswagen. Yes. Yes. 01:44:05.250 --> 01:44:07.730 The people's car, the people's car. 01:44:07.730 --> 01:44:13.290 There we go okay anyway. 01:44:13.290 --> 01:44:19.170 I think the whole back and forth okay i think here's. 01:44:19.170 --> 01:44:22.750 One thing i i want to make sure and if if anybody didn't understand something 01:44:22.750 --> 01:44:27.590 i want to make a point very clear right now i'm not sure if i made this very 01:44:27.590 --> 01:44:34.790 very clear but i want you all to know that i absolutely despise Donald J. Trump. 01:44:36.790 --> 01:44:37.550 No one would have. 01:44:37.550 --> 01:44:40.070 I just want to make sure that if that wasn't. 01:44:40.070 --> 01:44:44.310 Clear up until this moment, I wanted to make sure that to make it very clear. 01:44:44.770 --> 01:44:46.290 You know you want a Trump mobile. 01:44:47.270 --> 01:44:49.210 If I got a free Trump mobile. 01:44:49.470 --> 01:44:53.990 I would probably do one of the least ecological things that I would ever probably do. 01:44:54.270 --> 01:44:57.830 You would burn it. Burn it to the ground. I would burn the fucking thing. 01:44:57.970 --> 01:44:58.170 Yes. 01:44:59.730 --> 01:45:00.630 Of course you would. 01:45:01.250 --> 01:45:06.470 Okay. Like, so I think that the back and forth between the courts and Trump 01:45:06.470 --> 01:45:08.450 is going to go on for a while. 01:45:08.750 --> 01:45:12.670 I think it will be increasingly clear. This is my prediction. 01:45:13.090 --> 01:45:20.090 It will be increasingly clear that Donald Trump effectively is ignoring it and 01:45:20.090 --> 01:45:21.830 is doing whatever the fuck he wants anyway. 01:45:22.030 --> 01:45:28.270 But he will continue to put out enough fig leaves or fig leaves to keep it going 01:45:28.270 --> 01:45:30.250 up and down and up and down in the courts. 01:45:30.250 --> 01:45:38.470 And he won't at any point directly say, fuck you, Scotus, I'm, 01:45:39.090 --> 01:45:46.790 you don't matter. He won't make it that clear, but the effective result will 01:45:46.790 --> 01:45:51.850 be the same because he'll figure out one way or another to do what he wants anyway. 01:45:52.370 --> 01:45:56.830 That's my take. He may occasionally throw a fig leaf. 01:45:57.570 --> 01:46:04.430 Maybe this guy in El Salvador, some compromised thing happens to him maybe probably 01:46:04.430 --> 01:46:10.290 not though because donald trump fundamentally believes that backing down is 01:46:10.290 --> 01:46:13.510 losing listen like everything you. 01:46:13.510 --> 01:46:18.170 Know something will happen that he can declare a victory in some way so that's 01:46:18.170 --> 01:46:21.510 what i'm saying like for example because what has what could happen is that 01:46:21.510 --> 01:46:27.090 the the the president of el salvador somehow in order to i'll say face just sends them back, 01:46:27.450 --> 01:46:31.150 you know, or some shit like that. Or I decided that. 01:46:31.290 --> 01:46:33.170 You know. You. 01:46:33.170 --> 01:46:35.150 Know, if I. 01:46:35.150 --> 01:46:38.570 Were to design an actual way out. Yeah. 01:46:38.850 --> 01:46:45.570 It's a neutral third party, neutral third country. We'll send them to Mexico. A neutral. 01:46:45.570 --> 01:46:47.030 Third country offers. 01:46:47.030 --> 01:46:51.750 Asylum for this guy and his whole family. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. 01:46:52.350 --> 01:46:54.470 Yeah, that's the kind of thing I could. 01:46:54.470 --> 01:46:59.310 See as a way out. He doesn't come back to the U.S. He doesn't stay in El Salvador. 01:47:00.110 --> 01:47:01.470 Okay. Can we get that offer? 01:47:02.490 --> 01:47:03.810 Can we get that offer? 01:47:04.870 --> 01:47:09.730 For a neutral third party to take us in? Yeah. Yeah. Like, can we get asylum in. 01:47:09.750 --> 01:47:11.670 Like, Italy? Yeah. 01:47:13.030 --> 01:47:16.450 The person in charge of Italy is, like, not that great either. 01:47:16.570 --> 01:47:17.790 Maloney, no. Well, Switzerland. 01:47:18.030 --> 01:47:22.250 Switzerland. They get an asylum offer. They're neutral. You know, 01:47:22.570 --> 01:47:25.790 neutral. You know, neutral. They're very neutral. Yeah. Okay. 01:47:26.230 --> 01:47:31.070 I was thinking more Scandinavia, but too cold for you. 01:47:31.890 --> 01:47:33.430 You know, I love. 01:47:33.490 --> 01:47:36.870 Like, you know, I love Scandinavia conceptually. 01:47:36.870 --> 01:47:40.310 Just not the weather too cold. 01:47:41.130 --> 01:47:41.330 Yeah. 01:47:42.090 --> 01:47:43.250 I mean, shit. 01:47:43.390 --> 01:47:48.650 Don't you have like some, yeah, like, like the, the French have these overseas departments. 01:47:48.890 --> 01:47:51.810 Okay. You know, like, like the Caribbean. 01:47:52.050 --> 01:47:52.190 Right? 01:47:52.350 --> 01:47:54.250 Well, Denmark does have Greenland. 01:47:55.030 --> 01:47:56.550 Okay. That's not helping. 01:47:58.650 --> 01:48:01.030 Like, you know, they have like something like. 01:48:01.250 --> 01:48:06.150 You know. Look, I'm still open to Puerto Rico joining, you know, 01:48:06.350 --> 01:48:07.870 being turned over to Ted Mark. 01:48:08.210 --> 01:48:10.970 Don't some of those actually still have some Caribbean islands? 01:48:11.510 --> 01:48:14.070 Yeah, the French do. Martinique, whatever. 01:48:14.250 --> 01:48:19.270 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do the British as well. There's a few British overseas territories, yes. 01:48:19.630 --> 01:48:23.630 I mean, one time when we went to Anguilla, I had to get my wife a British visa 01:48:23.630 --> 01:48:27.370 to go over there. Right. Way back when, before she decided. 01:48:27.370 --> 01:48:27.910 To become a. 01:48:27.910 --> 01:48:31.270 Citizen. Now, of course, I'm exploring getting citizenship somewhere else. 01:48:31.890 --> 01:48:32.970 Yes, you've mentioned it. 01:48:33.250 --> 01:48:37.770 Okay, we should wrap up. There's all kinds of other stuff that happened. 01:48:37.830 --> 01:48:40.230 Just to throw out a couple bullet points. 01:48:40.310 --> 01:48:43.570 Okay, by the way, there is one thing about it. 01:48:43.830 --> 01:48:47.470 None of it is good. Oh, the other things that have happened, you mean? 01:48:47.570 --> 01:48:51.950 Yeah, none of them are good. Are any of them good? 01:48:52.550 --> 01:48:54.530 Well, the list I was going to go through. 01:48:54.890 --> 01:48:57.950 Yes, you go through. You go through. Well, let's see. For example, 01:48:58.070 --> 01:48:59.510 I was looking at the list that we put up. 01:48:59.510 --> 01:49:06.610 On the thing. The Slack. Yeah, on the Slack, direct negotiations with, 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:12.580 which seemed like a joke. Okay. And I guess maybe, is that why they had all 01:49:12.580 --> 01:49:13.900 those bombers at Diego Garcia? 01:49:14.100 --> 01:49:17.160 I guess they were thinking about. Yeah. Okay. 01:49:18.780 --> 01:49:20.980 Apparently, apparently, by the way. 01:49:21.460 --> 01:49:24.860 On that, Israel was about to attack. 01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:30.560 Yeah. That's what, and, and apparently the U S Donald Trump specifically said, 01:49:30.660 --> 01:49:32.400 no, no, no, we're going to negotiate with Iran. 01:49:32.540 --> 01:49:40.680 You got to hold off. So I guess like, I, I, I don't disagree with, 01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:42.900 let's start negotiating with Iran again. 01:49:43.120 --> 01:49:47.680 Do I have trust that Donald Trump can do it in a way that makes sense? No. 01:49:48.120 --> 01:49:51.340 But I think it's better than bombing them. You remember USMCA? 01:49:52.320 --> 01:49:57.200 Look, if he wants to do USMCA too, but like the Iran nuclear agreement too, 01:49:57.320 --> 01:50:01.020 that's basically the same thing as it was before. It was almost the same shit 01:50:01.020 --> 01:50:04.840 as NAFTA, except with some minor changes. 01:50:05.120 --> 01:50:07.840 So there you go. Okay, I'll go with that. Yeah, he could do something like that. 01:50:07.980 --> 01:50:11.500 I mean, probably you'd have to give Iran some more concessions than they had last time. 01:50:11.620 --> 01:50:17.800 But, you know, but at a fundamental level, I don't disagree with negotiate rather than bomb. 01:50:18.100 --> 01:50:21.960 But yeah. Okay, go ahead. Okay. Even though- 224 pounds. 01:50:22.780 --> 01:50:24.800 That's how much, I was going to say. 01:50:24.800 --> 01:50:28.300 How much Ivan weighs, but no, that's a Donald Trump, right? That's how much 01:50:28.300 --> 01:50:29.860 Donald Trump weighs. Yes. 01:50:30.440 --> 01:50:37.560 At six foot three. I mean, I, this is, he released his medical reports this week. 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:40.120 It's just, and he's of course. 01:50:40.280 --> 01:50:41.740 Like, you know, a handsome. 01:50:41.900 --> 01:50:45.220 Healthy man. We didn't mention. 01:50:45.220 --> 01:50:49.060 Anything about Harvard saying, go fuck yourself. And then a number of universities 01:50:49.060 --> 01:50:53.980 actually like now decided that, you know, it's not a good idea to negotiate 01:50:53.980 --> 01:50:57.600 with Donald Trump. And by the way, a whole bunch of law firms actually also 01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.060 decided, what the fuck are we doing? 01:50:59.340 --> 01:51:03.000 What are we negotiating with this asshole? Yeah, I mean, there were a. 01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:07.000 Handful of law firms that had already taken him to court and won every single 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.520 one. But there were tons that were capitulating. 01:51:09.880 --> 01:51:16.360 Yeah. And hopefully these reverse. But there were idiots. I mean, there were. 01:51:16.360 --> 01:51:18.860 Idiots that I think a number of them are realizing that they were idiots. 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:21.820 And now they're like, oh, you know, they want to fight us for more. 01:51:21.980 --> 01:51:23.860 We're like, fuck you. No. So, yeah. 01:51:24.440 --> 01:51:29.060 There was the homegrown next. What the hell was the homegrown next thing? 01:51:29.060 --> 01:51:31.460 No, this was Trump and what's his. 01:51:31.460 --> 01:51:34.900 Name from El Salvador? What's the president's name? Oh, yeah, 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:36.820 yeah, yeah. That he's going to deport American citizens. 01:51:36.940 --> 01:51:38.700 Deport American citizens. Yeah. 01:51:39.580 --> 01:51:44.340 Basically, he told the president of El Salvador, you need to build a bunch more 01:51:44.340 --> 01:51:48.000 prisons like this because we want to send a bunch more people to you. 01:51:48.280 --> 01:51:49.760 No, by the way, he doesn't have the money. 01:51:50.080 --> 01:51:52.440 But thank God El Salvador doesn't have the fucking money. 01:51:52.900 --> 01:51:53.260 But anyway. 01:51:53.440 --> 01:51:55.440 Including the homegrown ones next. Well, you know. 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:59.320 Donald Trump could pay for it. He doesn't like paying. construction will. 01:51:59.850 --> 01:52:02.790 Exactly. Number one, he doesn't like to pay for anything. 01:52:03.210 --> 01:52:09.150 Number two is, how fast did that wall go up, Sam, in Texas when he was president? Exactly. 01:52:10.510 --> 01:52:15.430 EO against Krebs and Taylor, you know, so he targeted a couple of people, 01:52:15.610 --> 01:52:19.830 more people that said anything about him. He keeps targeting people that say anything about him. 01:52:19.830 --> 01:52:24.070 No, but the specific thing here is this one was, well, no, 01:52:24.230 --> 01:52:29.410 yeah, but no, but this was the most direct one yet in terms of he issued an 01:52:29.410 --> 01:52:35.170 order directly to the DOJ to investigate these two people. Yeah, I know, I know. 01:52:36.410 --> 01:52:41.770 The Bernie AOC tour. You know, the only thing I'll say about this is. 01:52:41.990 --> 01:52:46.470 You know, whether or not it's effective in the end, I don't know, but I like it. 01:52:46.830 --> 01:52:50.210 Like these two. I think that this needs to mushroom into. 01:52:50.210 --> 01:52:55.710 Like, massive protests at some point. This needs to go from this. There were, but no. 01:52:55.790 --> 01:52:57.010 We need to bigger. 01:52:57.530 --> 01:53:00.670 No, I know. And the protests are. 01:53:00.810 --> 01:53:05.730 Like, a monthly thing. They're on a schedule. They're going to happen more. But, like, no. 01:53:05.970 --> 01:53:11.730 The thing is, and it's not just, like, that Bernie and AOC are filling up, 01:53:11.730 --> 01:53:18.570 like, large venues in red states. It's if you listen to what they're actually saying. 01:53:18.870 --> 01:53:20.910 Oh, yeah. It's great. It's great. 01:53:21.070 --> 01:53:21.790 It's great. 01:53:22.050 --> 01:53:28.930 It's passionate. One thing, there was one five-second clip of AOC who was like, 01:53:29.050 --> 01:53:33.050 people ask us why we even come to Idaho. 01:53:33.590 --> 01:53:36.490 It's because you matter. 01:53:37.070 --> 01:53:39.290 I love it. Love it. 01:53:39.290 --> 01:53:41.430 She said more that was great. 01:53:41.550 --> 01:53:45.610 But just that one thing to like, say we, but I, 01:53:46.180 --> 01:53:47.480 There was a poll. 01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:51.880 By the way, there was a poll, if she primaried Schumer for the Senate, 01:53:52.420 --> 01:53:55.240 where she was beating him 65-35. 01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:58.020 Yeah, no, I believe that for the primary. 01:53:58.340 --> 01:54:03.020 I'm waiting for the general election polls to see if she could win in the general 01:54:03.020 --> 01:54:04.020 election. Yeah, that's, you know. 01:54:04.460 --> 01:54:09.860 But, you know, Schumer needs to go anyway. 01:54:10.280 --> 01:54:15.540 Yeah, he needs to go. You know, but anyway, no, I like what they're doing. 01:54:15.540 --> 01:54:18.040 I like that they they are active. 01:54:18.420 --> 01:54:23.460 They speak well. They are not compromising on their values. 01:54:23.620 --> 01:54:26.620 No, to try to like attract centrists or anything. 01:54:27.100 --> 01:54:30.640 No, no, no, no. They're not wishy washy. They're clear on what they believe. 01:54:30.820 --> 01:54:33.940 And if you don't like it, you don't like it. But they will they will listen 01:54:33.940 --> 01:54:37.680 to the people who disagree with them, but they will still like go right on. 01:54:38.240 --> 01:54:41.220 And there are a few others that have been doing this kind of thing. 01:54:41.360 --> 01:54:45.640 I've seen Buttigieg out a bunch lately. I've seen Walls out a bunch lately. 01:54:46.700 --> 01:54:50.140 There's another one whose name I'm forgetting right now, I'm sorry, 01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:55.860 who's been on TV a lot and just calling out the administration left and right. 01:54:56.040 --> 01:55:00.460 We talked about the Booker thing, you know, all the sort of a one-off. 01:55:00.660 --> 01:55:06.060 But like what is not working right now is the people who are just like, 01:55:06.180 --> 01:55:11.320 oh, we'll be quiet and we'll wait for the administration to like shoot itself 01:55:11.320 --> 01:55:13.420 in the foot and then we'll be well positioned. 01:55:13.420 --> 01:55:16.500 I mean, they may be right. I mean, if they tank the economy. 01:55:16.900 --> 01:55:23.040 But, you know, I tell you, I am really thinking positively right now about the 01:55:23.040 --> 01:55:31.120 Democrats who are being out there and vocal and visible and combative against the the current regime, 01:55:31.120 --> 01:55:34.780 as opposed to the ones who are being quiet. Yeah. 01:55:35.120 --> 01:55:41.300 And part of this is I saw someone on TV or a podcast or whatever, 01:55:41.380 --> 01:55:45.820 and again, I'm not going to remember who or where it was, was saying they've got to stop. 01:55:46.110 --> 01:55:50.470 Thinking of themselves at this point. For this particular moment in history, 01:55:50.470 --> 01:55:57.590 you need to not think of yourself as like a traditional American party in the 01:55:57.590 --> 01:56:00.110 minority that's just waiting for their next term. 01:56:00.590 --> 01:56:06.350 You need to think of yourself more like the opposition movements, 01:56:06.550 --> 01:56:10.730 like solidarity in Poland during the last bits of the Cold War. 01:56:10.950 --> 01:56:13.470 Hey, good news. That kid, the. 01:56:13.470 --> 01:56:17.710 Kid that was American that the fucking police held up in northern Florida. 01:56:17.890 --> 01:56:20.370 They released him. Yeah, we hadn't mentioned that one. 01:56:20.390 --> 01:56:25.030 But he was an American citizen who... Yeah, but at the court hearing, 01:56:25.030 --> 01:56:29.850 they were like waving his birth certificate around and stuff like that. 01:56:30.310 --> 01:56:33.730 Oh, he's got an ice hold. I'm like, he's a fucking American citizen. 01:56:33.730 --> 01:56:37.550 You assholes. And the judge was like, oh, sorry. Yeah, the judge was like. 01:56:37.610 --> 01:56:40.470 I see a birth certificate. I can't do anything about it. Well, 01:56:40.470 --> 01:56:43.030 the problem is, yeah, he couldn't overrule the ice hold. 01:56:43.030 --> 01:56:47.930 The sheriff had to fucking go look at what the judge said and say, oh, okay, fine. 01:56:49.970 --> 01:56:52.370 Anyway, I like the Bernie AOC tour. 01:56:53.830 --> 01:56:58.250 I'm liking those two more and more as every week goes by, and there are a few 01:56:58.250 --> 01:57:01.810 other Democrats who are doing it right and a bunch that are doing it wrong. Okay, go ahead. 01:57:02.150 --> 01:57:04.190 And the last one that we didn't talk about. 01:57:04.190 --> 01:57:09.770 Is RFK on autism. I think I may have mentioned a little bit but RFK is RFK Jr. 01:57:10.230 --> 01:57:13.570 Is a complete fucking moron. 01:57:14.430 --> 01:57:21.930 Yes. He knows nothing about nothing and thinks he's smarter than everybody else. He's an idiot. 01:57:22.770 --> 01:57:24.550 He has never met a person, 01:57:25.460 --> 01:57:29.000 Very clearly, obviously. Never fucking met one. 01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:33.660 For some fucking reason, he advocates about, you know, the vaccines cause of 01:57:33.660 --> 01:57:39.400 autism, but this motherfucker has never, ever met somebody with autism. 01:57:39.980 --> 01:57:45.940 He is a joke. And this guy, I probably would get arrested if I fucking met. 01:57:46.400 --> 01:57:48.760 I mean, he is. 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:52.340 Not just ignorant. He is... 01:57:52.340 --> 01:57:55.500 He's dangerous. he's dangerous and actively 01:57:55.500 --> 01:57:58.460 harmful in any everything he is doing right 01:57:58.460 --> 01:58:01.880 now yes uh and like you know 01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:07.520 if if we we could have done a whole segment on him and autism you know and and 01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:12.500 what he's doing but like it's just one facet of all of the harmful things he's 01:58:12.500 --> 01:58:17.480 doing across all kinds of different areas which of course what he's doing is 01:58:17.480 --> 01:58:20.780 a small fast of what the whole damn administration is doing that's right. 01:58:21.160 --> 01:58:26.560 But, and that's why like each little slice of it gets a little bit of attention 01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:31.800 because there's so much, it's just this active destruction, 01:58:32.860 --> 01:58:38.640 of all sorts of things that are helpful and positive, replacing them with things 01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:41.160 that are not just neutral, but actively harmful. 01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:46.800 And that's where we are right now and where we probably will be for the next few years. 01:58:48.180 --> 01:58:56.240 And thank you so much for everybody who voted for him or you jackasses who stayed 01:58:56.240 --> 01:58:59.920 home because Harris wasn't pure enough for you. 01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:02.260 Okay. On that happy note. 01:59:04.380 --> 01:59:07.440 Yes. On that happy, wonderful, exciting note. 01:59:07.620 --> 01:59:11.480 Hey, everybody, you know the deal. Go to curmudgeon-corner.com. 01:59:11.480 --> 01:59:14.080 You can find all of the stuff, 01:59:14.400 --> 01:59:18.520 all the ways to contact us, all our archives, transcripts of recent shows, 01:59:18.820 --> 01:59:22.860 all of those fun things, all the ways to subscribe, 01:59:23.200 --> 01:59:26.640 follow us, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, except TikTok. I still haven't linked to TikTok. 01:59:27.120 --> 01:59:29.300 You know, I keep putting it off. 01:59:30.360 --> 01:59:34.500 At this point, I'm not sure if TikTok is going to disappear or stay or whatever. 01:59:34.840 --> 01:59:39.620 I'm hoping for certainty. But in the Trump administration, you never get certainty about jack shit. 01:59:39.620 --> 01:59:42.760 So maybe at some point i'll add the little logo 01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:46.420 for tiktok too but anyway i links 01:59:46.420 --> 01:59:49.440 to all of those things and also of course to our patreon where 01:59:49.440 --> 01:59:54.720 you can give us money at various levels we will send you a postcard we will 01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.540 mention you on the show we will send you a mug blah blah blah blah blah and 01:59:58.540 --> 02:00:05.700 yes i still owe pete greg and eggs egg not egg eggs eggs hit an all-time new 02:00:05.700 --> 02:00:08.220 high price-wise, didn't they, Yvonne, recently? 02:00:08.400 --> 02:00:11.980 They had been going down, but then they went back up. Nah, they're expensive. 02:00:12.280 --> 02:00:16.300 They're staying expensive, yeah. You know, now I want them. 02:00:17.300 --> 02:00:19.100 I found eggs at Costco. 02:00:19.340 --> 02:00:23.180 Actually, the ones at Costco, they've been able to source them at my old price. 02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:25.820 Oh, there you go. That's what I saw. There you go. 02:00:26.280 --> 02:00:29.680 Anyway, yes, Pete, Greg, and I said egg again. 02:00:29.880 --> 02:00:35.620 Greg and egg, egg. Pete, Greg, and Ed, I will eventually get you the things I owe you. 02:00:36.420 --> 02:00:41.340 And yeah, at $2 a month or more on the Patreon, or if you just ask us, 02:00:41.460 --> 02:00:43.480 we will invite you to the Curmudgeons Corner Slack. 02:00:43.480 --> 02:00:47.460 Whereas we, you know, over the course of this show, we've mentioned like at 02:00:47.460 --> 02:00:52.320 least half a dozen different things that we'd shared on the Slack or talked about on the Slack. 02:00:52.660 --> 02:00:56.080 It's a lot of fun. Yvonne and I are there. A bunch of listeners are there. 02:00:56.300 --> 02:00:59.760 We share links. We chat about the news. We chat about other things. 02:01:00.140 --> 02:01:03.460 It's great fun. You should join us. So be in contact. 02:01:03.780 --> 02:01:07.400 Let us know and start participating in the Slack. 02:01:07.540 --> 02:01:14.920 And those of you who are members of the Slack, but aren't in very often, visit more often. 02:01:15.160 --> 02:01:17.500 Come play with us. It's a lot of fun. 02:01:18.380 --> 02:01:24.060 Okay, Yvonne. So, what's something from the Slack that's worth mentioning before we say goodbye? 02:01:24.420 --> 02:01:26.420 What's something from the Slack? 02:01:26.680 --> 02:01:33.040 Okay. I'm so alone. Crosswalk speakers across Silicon Valley hacked the play 02:01:33.040 --> 02:01:38.220 AI audio of Musk begging for friends. Oh. 02:01:39.060 --> 02:01:45.460 Is that sweet it's so yeah sweet i feel so bad for him so so sad. 02:01:45.460 --> 02:01:50.340 Yeah poor poor little elon well he's he's also apparently. 02:01:50.340 --> 02:01:56.320 On the outs now from the administration so you know he's working his way back 02:01:56.320 --> 02:02:01.240 to his company slowly he's been in much less visible the last two weeks i don't 02:02:01.240 --> 02:02:03.760 know well i mean neither has. 02:02:04.600 --> 02:02:08.960 Yeah, Navarro has a... 02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:15.220 Navarro. Ever since the initial rollout of the tariffs didn't go quite as smoothly 02:02:15.220 --> 02:02:18.880 as they hoped, for some reason... Liberation day, Sam! 02:02:19.860 --> 02:02:20.840 Liberation day. 02:02:23.100 --> 02:02:28.100 Should I go import some things from China? I did go and buy those. 02:02:28.100 --> 02:02:33.240 Tires that I wanted to get to beat the tariffs. i i i you know i. 02:02:33.240 --> 02:02:36.460 I i said last week they they've 02:02:36.460 --> 02:02:41.540 delayed the tariffs on the electronic items except for the 10 so i'm back to 02:02:41.540 --> 02:02:47.380 my plan of waiting till the the next new iphones come out before upgrading my 02:02:47.380 --> 02:02:53.940 iphone in i think that's like right waiting for the 17s not the 16s the the 02:02:53.940 --> 02:02:55.460 only thing like right now i don't know if you. 02:02:55.460 --> 02:02:58.780 Saw that that you guys had stayed until the end of the podcast Uh, 02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:01.480 Apple for earth day is running a promotion. 02:03:01.640 --> 02:03:06.920 They hadn't run in the past recently, but apparently you can get a whole bunch of discounts. 02:03:07.120 --> 02:03:13.100 If you turn in old Apple products and there's a list of them that are usually 02:03:13.100 --> 02:03:16.760 get no trade in that they're, that they're useless and don't work, 02:03:16.900 --> 02:03:18.020 but they'll give you money. 02:03:18.420 --> 02:03:20.440 They'll give you a discounts. Uh, 02:03:20.880 --> 02:03:22.300 So they've got that. 02:03:22.300 --> 02:03:26.620 Promo for Earth Day I am once again thinking Going through the whole thought 02:03:26.620 --> 02:03:28.480 process Do I want an iPad? 02:03:29.140 --> 02:03:32.980 And we talked about that before How there's the iPad ladder Let me tell you 02:03:32.980 --> 02:03:34.800 something And I don't say that. 02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:36.000 Right now I. 02:03:36.000 --> 02:03:37.240 Find myself using. 02:03:37.240 --> 02:03:41.780 My Because my old iPad There were certain reasons I used it, 02:03:41.940 --> 02:03:48.980 but not as much This one, to do one I find myself using it quite a lot I figure at this point. 02:03:48.980 --> 02:03:56.600 Like if i were to go ipad again i i would i would intentionally go mid-range 02:03:56.600 --> 02:04:03.500 i don't think i can like like i'd go for an air and one thing i realized i don't need all the storage. 02:04:04.160 --> 02:04:06.240 Not now because everything's. 02:04:06.240 --> 02:04:06.940 A lot of content. 02:04:06.940 --> 02:04:07.960 Everything's on the. 02:04:07.960 --> 02:04:09.280 Cloud i didn't really you. 02:04:09.280 --> 02:04:13.020 Know before i needed all the all of it especially when i was flying because 02:04:13.020 --> 02:04:17.460 many times like there was an internet on the flights but you know what it does 02:04:17.460 --> 02:04:22.760 have enough of a cache and and now on on i i can stream audio and video on the 02:04:22.760 --> 02:04:26.140 damn planes anyway yeah i mean i can i keep thinking. 02:04:26.140 --> 02:04:29.780 Like you know at minimum i want the same amount of memory that i have on my 02:04:29.780 --> 02:04:34.160 phone but i'm thinking you know i probably don't even need that you know so 02:04:34.160 --> 02:04:40.560 anyway i'm thinking about it we'll see i don't it would be a splurge, but like, we'll see. 02:04:41.420 --> 02:04:47.660 Anyway, we are done. Thank you everybody for joining us yet again. Have a great week. 02:04:48.140 --> 02:04:51.800 Stay safe. Have fun, but not too much fun. 02:04:52.060 --> 02:04:56.520 You know, all the stuff I usually say like, and Yvonne and I, 02:04:56.800 --> 02:04:59.720 if all goes well, nothing unexpected happens. 02:05:00.480 --> 02:05:02.300 We'll be back again next week. 02:05:03.060 --> 02:05:04.720 Goodbye. Bye. 02:05:07.620 --> 02:05:22.640 Okay. 02:05:36.340 --> 02:05:42.420 Okay, that's it. Have a lovely evening, Yvonne. Thank you. Bye. 02:05:43.040 --> 02:05:43.700 Bye.