WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:00.950 Hello. 00:00:02.010 --> 00:00:02.690 Hello. 00:00:03.610 --> 00:00:06.650 Let's get the streamy going. Hold on. 00:00:10.110 --> 00:00:16.950 You look upset. Is everything okay? 00:00:20.530 --> 00:00:21.890 You don't have to. 00:00:25.490 --> 00:00:26.370 Okay. 00:00:30.010 --> 00:00:31.450 All right. Okay. 00:00:31.810 --> 00:00:32.190 You okay? 00:00:32.290 --> 00:00:32.990 Let's try this again. 00:00:34.090 --> 00:00:37.990 Okay. Shall we just go ahead and start? Okay. Here it goes. 00:00:47.210 --> 00:00:48.330 I'll wait just a second. 00:00:50.630 --> 00:00:52.970 What are you doing? What are you doing? 00:01:01.390 --> 00:01:05.170 okay what is that can you explain to me what that is t-rex. 00:01:05.170 --> 00:01:10.550 I was gonna say dinosaur i was gonna say dinosaur i was okay you you okay yeah 00:01:10.550 --> 00:01:12.970 i didn't say it before he said it but i was thinking it. 00:01:12.970 --> 00:01:16.570 Okay all right okay t-rex okay go play. 00:01:19.930 --> 00:01:20.850 Okay acting. 00:01:20.850 --> 00:01:22.350 Out of t-rex damn no idea what. 00:01:22.350 --> 00:01:30.170 Oh okay here we go here comes the song is it a song it's instrumental is that 00:01:30.170 --> 00:01:34.370 still it is a song yeah it's a song okay here we go oh. 00:01:34.370 --> 00:01:35.730 How else would you call it. 00:01:35.730 --> 00:01:46.270 A tune it's a song okay yeah like to me song sort of implies vocals no okay 00:01:46.270 --> 00:01:47.770 anyway here here it comes, 00:02:13.050 --> 00:02:20.570 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, March 15th, 2025. 00:02:21.450 --> 00:02:26.050 It is just after two UTC as we're starting to record. I'm Sam Menter, 00:02:26.150 --> 00:02:27.350 Yvonne Bowes here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:02:27.810 --> 00:02:30.970 Hello. So, yes, it's an instrumental song. 00:02:31.210 --> 00:02:32.930 It's an instrumental song. 00:02:33.070 --> 00:02:40.050 And I see that the number, the best-selling instrumental song of all time. 00:02:40.370 --> 00:02:41.150 Axel F. 00:02:41.790 --> 00:02:42.170 No. 00:02:42.510 --> 00:02:44.350 No? Crazy Frog? 00:02:44.750 --> 00:02:45.290 Nope. 00:02:45.750 --> 00:02:46.430 Beethoven's Fifth? 00:02:46.810 --> 00:02:52.310 Nope. Star Wars theme and cantina band by record producer Miko, 00:02:53.270 --> 00:02:54.990 also known as Domenico Monardo. 00:02:55.250 --> 00:02:59.830 In 1977, Remens, the only instrumental single to reach platinum status by the 00:02:59.830 --> 00:03:02.150 Recording Industry Association of America. 00:03:02.650 --> 00:03:06.450 Nice. And that would be the original cantina song from the original Star Wars. 00:03:06.610 --> 00:03:06.850 Correct. 00:03:07.510 --> 00:03:10.690 Because George Lucas messed around a little afterwards and there were other 00:03:10.690 --> 00:03:12.870 versions and whatever. But yeah. 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:15.030 Yeah so i think i think the. 00:03:15.030 --> 00:03:16.810 Original stayed in but he added 00:03:16.810 --> 00:03:19.810 something and then there was a new one for return of the i don't know like. 00:03:19.810 --> 00:03:22.310 But everyone knows the original, 00:03:26.190 --> 00:03:32.910 yeah so yeah so that is the best selling instrumental song of all time amazingly 00:03:32.910 --> 00:03:39.630 i mean that's like 1977 so yeah it's been it's been a minute it. 00:03:39.630 --> 00:03:46.230 Has been You know, instrumentals, like, it's actually relatively rare that an 00:03:46.230 --> 00:03:49.410 instrumental, like, hits, like, number one in the charts or whatever. 00:03:49.650 --> 00:03:54.990 Like, it's only happened a few times. There have been a few that have gotten 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:56.370 really popular, but it's rare. 00:03:57.200 --> 00:04:01.580 Which, you know, and I almost like reposted something on the curmudgeons course, 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.140 because of course, we're going on a tangent here. 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.480 I almost posted something on the curmudgeons course Slack yesterday, 00:04:07.480 --> 00:04:10.520 because I noticed it again. We talked about it a few months ago. 00:04:10.700 --> 00:04:14.620 But, you know, when I listen to music, I randomly choose which of a whole bunch 00:04:14.620 --> 00:04:16.560 of playlists I listen to, because of course, I'm me. 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:23.900 One of them is I pick like the top 100 songs from either Apple Music USA or Apple Music Global. 00:04:23.900 --> 00:04:27.100 but on either one of them the 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:30.420 percentage that is explicit is like insanely 00:04:30.420 --> 00:04:33.140 high and i know we talked about it before but it's still like 00:04:33.140 --> 00:04:36.700 every time i see it like like just 00:04:36.700 --> 00:04:39.800 strikes me like i'm looking right now at the usa top 100 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:42.760 number one nokia by drake 00:04:42.760 --> 00:04:45.860 explicit number two luther by kendrick 00:04:45.860 --> 00:04:49.340 lamar not explicit number three 30 30 00:04:49.340 --> 00:04:52.340 for 30 by sizza explicit number four not 00:04:52.340 --> 00:04:55.300 like us by kendrick lamar explicit number five 00:04:55.300 --> 00:04:58.700 somebody loves me by party next door explicit 00:04:58.700 --> 00:05:02.340 number six tv off by kendrick lamar 00:05:02.340 --> 00:05:05.580 explicit number seven die with a smile by 00:05:05.580 --> 00:05:09.100 lady gaga not explicit number eight anxiety 00:05:09.100 --> 00:05:12.940 by do sheki i think you say explicit number 00:05:12.940 --> 00:05:18.340 not good song though number nine i'm the problem by morgan wallen not explicit 00:05:18.340 --> 00:05:23.900 and number 10 give me a hug by drake explicit so that means seven out of the 00:05:23.900 --> 00:05:27.840 top 10 at the moment are explicit and like if you go down further on the list 00:05:27.840 --> 00:05:30.020 it's a similar ratio it's just it's just like. 00:05:30.020 --> 00:05:34.380 Well that well the thing is that that's also because of you know how commercial 00:05:34.380 --> 00:05:39.780 radio isn't like the top place where you know people listen to music so that's 00:05:39.780 --> 00:05:44.600 you know that that's pretty much eliminated the the the the need for people 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.760 to like do like clean versions of a lot of songs. 00:05:47.760 --> 00:05:50.780 Yeah well and even when there is a clean version it's not 00:05:50.780 --> 00:05:53.840 the popular version no that's right you know 00:05:53.840 --> 00:05:56.500 they're they do make clean versions of a lot of 00:05:56.500 --> 00:05:59.300 these but like people aren't going to bother streaming the 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:03.540 clean version for the most part no no even you know even if that gets played 00:06:03.540 --> 00:06:08.340 on radio i was listening to an interview the other day i think it probably just 00:06:08.340 --> 00:06:11.520 came up on tiktok or whatever but it was some artist i don't even remember who 00:06:11.520 --> 00:06:18.880 the artist was but like the they played the interviewer played the artist and 00:06:19.280 --> 00:06:24.220 the clean version of one of their songs. And the artist cracks up and is like, 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:26.580 this is the first time I've ever heard that. That's ridiculous. 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:32.220 She's like, I'm going to have to go back into the studio and actually intentionally 00:06:32.220 --> 00:06:36.540 record a clean version with alternate lyrics or something. Because this was 00:06:36.540 --> 00:06:39.260 one of the ones that just sort of blanked out the curse words. 00:06:39.520 --> 00:06:43.500 Oh, so that wasn't like one that they recorded a different one. 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.500 This was one where they basically bleeped him. 00:06:47.060 --> 00:06:47.460 Yes. 00:06:48.020 --> 00:06:48.700 Oh, God. 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:54.460 And so, yeah, so she was, she was like, this is ridiculous. 00:06:54.700 --> 00:06:59.100 I have to, I have to go make a clean one. This is stupid. 00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:07.720 Yeah. I can see how in a song that would, that would make it sound just awful. That has to be. 00:07:07.880 --> 00:07:12.440 Now the producers are able to like, you know, they, they have all the tracks 00:07:12.440 --> 00:07:15.720 so they can bleep the vocal without making an actual silence. 00:07:15.960 --> 00:07:19.540 No, no, no. I, I know. No, I know, because, you know, it's a multi-track recording. 00:07:19.700 --> 00:07:25.200 I get it, but still, but if you, as the artist, know that you went through that 00:07:25.200 --> 00:07:29.360 and you spoke a word and all of a sudden the word is gone, right? 00:07:29.780 --> 00:07:30.180 Yes. 00:07:30.320 --> 00:07:33.500 It's got to sound really like weird to you, okay? 00:07:33.640 --> 00:07:37.260 When you're listening to this back. I mean, you know, it's like all of a sudden 00:07:37.260 --> 00:07:42.260 you taking this back and I don't know, just eliminating a whole bunch of the 00:07:42.260 --> 00:07:46.400 words I say, if I hear it back, I'm going to be like, what the fuck is this? 00:07:46.700 --> 00:07:47.020 Yeah. 00:07:47.020 --> 00:07:51.020 And then all of a sudden I'm hearing, what the is this? I would be like, oh. 00:07:51.020 --> 00:07:55.820 Exactly. Just like our show, this was like a song that had like swearing every 00:07:55.820 --> 00:07:57.220 couple seconds, you know? 00:07:57.340 --> 00:07:57.520 Right. 00:07:57.520 --> 00:08:01.840 So, you know. Anyway. So, our agenda for today is as usual. 00:08:01.940 --> 00:08:05.780 We're going to do our but first, where we talk about less newsy stuff like what we just did. 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:11.300 And then after that, we're going to have two segments each of like more news related stuff. 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.400 One picked by Yvonne, one picked by me. That's the plan for today. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.540 My, but first is going to be media again, Yvonne. So what, what's yours? 00:08:20.770 --> 00:08:25.390 No, we could do the twice annual daylight savings time rant. 00:08:25.510 --> 00:08:27.430 It just happened last weekend. 00:08:28.230 --> 00:08:31.470 I'm kind of bored of that though. We say the same thing and we, 00:08:31.570 --> 00:08:33.290 you know, but you know, it sucks. 00:08:33.710 --> 00:08:40.810 I mean, I was sleeping. I was very, I was very exhausted the next day, 00:08:41.010 --> 00:08:43.450 you know, because obviously because I'm waking up. 00:08:44.090 --> 00:08:46.810 Yeah. Like not at the right time. 00:08:47.190 --> 00:08:47.810 Uh huh. 00:08:47.910 --> 00:08:53.410 It's just, it's just fucking bullshit. anyway yes we hate it okay next all right 00:08:53.410 --> 00:09:00.430 okay yeah we we've ranted about this already on the on this on this medium for 00:09:00.430 --> 00:09:04.870 what 20 years almost getting close getting. 00:09:04.870 --> 00:09:07.030 Close we started in 2007. 00:09:07.030 --> 00:09:15.310 Right june 2007 so almost so we're at we're almost at 18 years yes i'm just 00:09:15.310 --> 00:09:22.410 like i don't know but i'm like i got to today i was tired i mean i i went to 00:09:22.410 --> 00:09:26.390 puerto rico i i came back as you do every week. 00:09:26.390 --> 00:09:26.930 At this point. 00:09:26.930 --> 00:09:30.010 Yeah i took a 7 a.m 00:09:30.010 --> 00:09:33.330 flight yesterday because one of 00:09:33.330 --> 00:09:36.390 my meetings got changed i i went to another meeting 00:09:36.390 --> 00:09:40.310 that was here in fort lauderdale right 00:09:40.310 --> 00:09:49.790 after i landed i got home i'm fucking tired i don't you know like it every i'll 00:09:49.790 --> 00:09:54.770 tell you what i'll talk about i'll talk about because it's not news okay i didn't 00:09:54.770 --> 00:09:57.830 make a note about this so there's one of the things that happened is that i 00:09:57.830 --> 00:09:59.970 went to lunch after that you. 00:09:59.970 --> 00:10:03.150 You you went to lunch that's got to be a rarity. 00:10:03.150 --> 00:10:06.250 I actually here's the thing during 00:10:06.250 --> 00:10:09.070 the business trips i i noticed that i skipped lunch a lot 00:10:09.070 --> 00:10:15.710 okay yeah okay i wind up not not going to lunch very often i get really busy 00:10:15.710 --> 00:10:19.730 i might just grab a coffee and some snack just keep plowing through and i i 00:10:19.730 --> 00:10:26.570 just regularly don't go to lunch on on my business trips and so it's all that's 00:10:26.570 --> 00:10:28.030 a lunch we were talking about, 00:10:29.170 --> 00:10:33.210 the discussion was turning around into what the hell is going on like right 00:10:33.210 --> 00:10:37.850 now every fucking day right because yeah and everybody at my table is like just 00:10:37.850 --> 00:10:40.810 mortified about the current the. 00:10:40.810 --> 00:10:41.870 Stuff that is in the news. 00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:49.550 The stuff that's the yeah and the the one thing that that was relevant is that, 00:10:50.710 --> 00:10:57.790 most of the people there are immigrants i think i'm the only one that was a native-born U.S. 00:10:58.150 --> 00:10:59.810 citizen that was at the table. I'm pretty sure, yeah. 00:11:00.410 --> 00:11:06.870 Everybody there was an educated, professional immigrant. Okay? 00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:07.230 Okay. 00:11:08.550 --> 00:11:16.670 Now, from different countries, Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Argentina, 00:11:17.750 --> 00:11:18.810 they had a lot of different ones. 00:11:20.300 --> 00:11:24.960 The one that that stuck with me more, we're talking about, you know, 00:11:25.020 --> 00:11:26.880 how the hell are we in this situation? 00:11:27.400 --> 00:11:31.780 Two things that that that struck one thing that struck me was a discussion that 00:11:31.780 --> 00:11:35.840 said and he said, listen, I'm going to tell you what the fuck it is. 00:11:36.340 --> 00:11:39.800 It's basically because people are very low information because we're talking 00:11:39.800 --> 00:11:42.280 about stuff and just how how just nobody. 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:48.600 I think is that very few people can discern what the hell is real and what isn't anymore. 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:49.900 OK, yeah. 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:56.960 It's just it's too much out there. I think that even a lot of very educated 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.940 people on a regular basis, 00:11:59.300 --> 00:12:03.920 I don't I don't think I know a lot of very educated people right now on a regular 00:12:03.920 --> 00:12:07.840 basis can't fucking know what the hell is real or not anymore at this point. 00:12:08.680 --> 00:12:13.700 And right. And just that is that it just everything boils down right now. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:14.320 Yes. 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:20.180 What he said. Well, he said because he's not not born in the US race in Argentina. 00:12:20.300 --> 00:12:24.200 He said, look, it boils down to the one square meter. Okay. 00:12:24.340 --> 00:12:25.460 One square meter. 00:12:25.680 --> 00:12:28.280 One square meter. And I'm like, well, what do you mean by the one square meter? 00:12:28.460 --> 00:12:33.020 He said, look, you're this person. This is your space. 00:12:33.260 --> 00:12:33.700 Right. 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:40.660 Okay. And what they thought in their head is, well, I look at my life right 00:12:40.660 --> 00:12:43.320 now and buying a house is more expensive than... 00:12:44.640 --> 00:12:51.880 You know, stuff is more expensive. A lot of people in especially middle income 00:12:51.880 --> 00:12:53.060 and down are struggling. 00:12:53.760 --> 00:12:57.140 And they just said, look, I'm worse. I'm going to vote for a change. 00:12:57.300 --> 00:12:59.160 That's it. Simple as that. 00:12:59.960 --> 00:13:07.620 No, not that not a lot more thought, not looking into dictator to tell you what, 00:13:08.140 --> 00:13:11.200 whatever are the things that we know you are really worried about. 00:13:11.780 --> 00:13:16.660 Absolutely. Well, and in this particular election, Kamala actually made a point 00:13:16.660 --> 00:13:23.060 of not having a gap between her and Biden. Like a lot of people were like. 00:13:23.060 --> 00:13:24.120 You need to matter. 00:13:24.540 --> 00:13:27.960 Well, it would have been hard anyway, but she made a specific point. 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.780 Like even when there were opportunities to differentiate, she actually refused. 00:13:31.780 --> 00:13:36.080 And there were interviews after with our campaign staff saying that they had 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.820 specific advice that they would do better in the polls if they made sure to 00:13:40.820 --> 00:13:43.240 differentiate. And instead, it would have mattered. 00:13:43.780 --> 00:13:48.540 I don't think even even even that. I don't think it would have mattered. 00:13:48.760 --> 00:13:50.720 Look, if you look at what happened across the world. 00:13:50.880 --> 00:13:54.360 It was close, but it was close enough. Anything could have made a difference. 00:13:54.500 --> 00:13:57.620 But I think you're right that like over that wasn't. 00:13:57.620 --> 00:14:01.020 Something that really resonated. I just don't think it is. 00:14:01.020 --> 00:14:10.120 I agree with the general point that is most people, it ends up being, 00:14:10.540 --> 00:14:12.300 quite frankly, just what you said. 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.180 Am I happy with how my life is going? 00:14:15.640 --> 00:14:20.460 If so, then I will say thumbs up, let's continue what we're doing. 00:14:20.460 --> 00:14:22.740 If not, I'll say thumbs down, let's change. 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:28.540 Now, wait, let me revise that because this is an important thing. 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:34.580 90% of the public is partisan and will be always Democrat, always Republican, 00:14:34.580 --> 00:14:36.100 no matter what is going on. 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:42.860 But that middle part, the low information voters who don't have enough, like, 00:14:43.630 --> 00:14:48.150 alignment to which side they're on they make decisions the way you. 00:14:48.150 --> 00:14:52.010 Just but here's the thing but but a lot of those people over history if you 00:14:52.010 --> 00:14:56.930 go back to obama election they have flipped when things are bad things are good 00:14:56.930 --> 00:15:02.170 whatever whatnot it goes back to that there is a central group. 00:15:02.170 --> 00:15:04.750 That switches back and forth but there is. 00:15:04.750 --> 00:15:10.450 A large but i and back economic crises well right Back in the old days, too. 00:15:10.710 --> 00:15:15.730 If you look back older elections, like if you look back in the 30s and 40s and 50s. 00:15:15.730 --> 00:15:16.930 Well, hell, 80s. 00:15:17.630 --> 00:15:21.350 Yeah, well, yeah. Over time, if you go back looking at the last 100 years, 00:15:21.550 --> 00:15:26.350 the amount that elections swing back and forth has been less and less and less. 00:15:26.490 --> 00:15:30.550 It used to be you'd get major swings that we just don't see anymore. 00:15:30.550 --> 00:15:36.930 But I just but it's just I still think that it boiled down a lot to that in 00:15:36.930 --> 00:15:43.890 it in what determines the people that really either show up or don't show up to vote. 00:15:44.250 --> 00:15:46.870 OK, or change their votes. OK, 00:15:47.430 --> 00:15:51.110 and we definitely had a lot of people that just didn't show up to vote. 00:15:51.670 --> 00:15:56.950 And I think that it's one of those things where you can vary. 00:15:57.510 --> 00:16:02.270 The facts don't matter because. Because you show them that, hey, 00:16:02.670 --> 00:16:04.250 Trump caused a lot of what's happening. 00:16:04.450 --> 00:16:06.610 Biden was trying to fix it. The GOP went. 00:16:06.830 --> 00:16:10.130 And even specifically after Biden made certain things that in 2021, 00:16:10.390 --> 00:16:16.850 2022 improved people's pocketbooks, the GOP actively killed them. But it doesn't matter. 00:16:17.050 --> 00:16:20.630 You're going to vote. You said Biden was the president. I'm not better off right 00:16:20.630 --> 00:16:22.630 now. It doesn't matter. They're going to vote the other guy. 00:16:22.790 --> 00:16:23.970 And I think it really boils. 00:16:24.230 --> 00:16:28.870 And I think that was the critical low information swing voters. 00:16:29.090 --> 00:16:34.310 Absolutely. absolutely because it just comes down to that and and there's also 00:16:34.310 --> 00:16:40.910 no understanding or no desire to understand no they don't have the time yeah you. 00:16:40.910 --> 00:16:45.530 Know they're they're so big you know that they don't have the time so they don't 00:16:45.530 --> 00:16:47.650 want the time they don't have the damn time. 00:16:47.650 --> 00:16:52.970 Well and i think what you've said about how this aligns worldwide is 100 support 00:16:52.970 --> 00:16:55.710 for that because it's not about not Biden and Trump. 00:16:56.050 --> 00:16:58.810 No, it was worldwide. Worldwide. 00:16:59.650 --> 00:17:03.210 Every single in power party. 00:17:03.490 --> 00:17:04.050 Lost. 00:17:04.250 --> 00:17:04.970 Lost ground. 00:17:05.230 --> 00:17:05.550 Lost. 00:17:05.850 --> 00:17:08.910 Now, they sometimes didn't lose completely. They sometimes went from six. 00:17:08.910 --> 00:17:09.950 But they lost ground big. 00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:14.050 They lost ground significantly. They lost five to 10% or whatever. 00:17:14.270 --> 00:17:15.170 So that was one thing. 00:17:15.610 --> 00:17:15.790 Yes. 00:17:15.910 --> 00:17:20.550 The other thing that I think that was more poignant, and some of us were talking 00:17:20.550 --> 00:17:26.670 about which ones have dual citizenship or not. a number at the table did, 00:17:27.900 --> 00:17:31.820 I don't think I've mentioned on the on the show that I did figure out that I 00:17:31.820 --> 00:17:37.060 am eligible for EU citizenship through Spain. 00:17:37.080 --> 00:17:39.380 Because like your grandparent or my my. 00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:45.100 Yes, I realize that through my mom, that our family relationship is close enough 00:17:45.100 --> 00:17:47.200 that that is that that is correct. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:52.800 I did, you know, I'm kicking myself about this because if I had known that there 00:17:52.800 --> 00:17:58.400 were job opportunities I wanted to take to move to Europe in the early 2000s. 00:17:58.760 --> 00:18:02.580 And they told me that because I didn't have an EU passport, I couldn't. 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.660 And now I'm kicking myself because I didn't actually dig into it. 00:18:06.840 --> 00:18:11.400 So what's the rule here? It's like you need one grandparent? 00:18:11.860 --> 00:18:15.440 My great grandfather was a Spanish citizen. 00:18:15.800 --> 00:18:19.820 Oh, so great grandfather counts. So you need only like one out of 16. 00:18:20.520 --> 00:18:20.520 Right? 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:22.560 Correct. Because you're, wait, no. 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:23.900 So, and the one thing is. 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:25.420 One out of eight. You're, you're. 00:18:25.580 --> 00:18:30.260 Yeah. So my mom's, so my mom's. Grandfather. Yeah. 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:30.580 Okay. 00:18:30.860 --> 00:18:34.200 He used a Spanish citizenship. So that made her eligible. 00:18:34.600 --> 00:18:38.040 The one thing is that I understood is that I have to, and she was fine with 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:39.540 it. I said, well, you need to claim me. 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:45.220 Get my, my, you know, get my citizenship. And apparently she knew this. 00:18:45.360 --> 00:18:46.380 I'm like, wait, you knew this? 00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:51.220 tell me this i'm like yeah so you need to you need to claim mine i'll i'm cool 00:18:51.220 --> 00:18:56.180 i'm down with that okay and then you can claim yours okay so she. 00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:58.820 Has to claim hers and then you can claim your like it has to go down. 00:18:58.820 --> 00:19:02.740 Yeah yeah i have to do yeah i i think i i think i may be able to do both i actually 00:19:02.740 --> 00:19:07.400 found a law firm that specializes in it so i don't know i am i haven't had the 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:12.220 time but i did get to the point where i i know what i got to do and then. 00:19:12.220 --> 00:19:16.040 Yvonne after that you can adopt me so. 00:19:16.040 --> 00:19:17.640 That i can also get you. 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:18.320 Know a citizenship. 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:25.060 We'll work on that okay uh so that's uh so so no i i got i got the i got the 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:28.460 paperwork somewhere already i gotta i gotta deal with that but but you know 00:19:28.460 --> 00:19:33.160 a lot of you know we're talking about a lot of people why they came to the united 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.800 states and one of the things that is their epic frustration right now. 00:19:38.290 --> 00:19:42.310 It's like literally we brought the worst shit. 00:19:42.790 --> 00:19:50.810 No, no, no. The worst qualities of what government in Latin America is what 00:19:50.810 --> 00:19:54.370 Trump brings to the presidency of the United States. 00:19:55.270 --> 00:20:00.470 It's that brazen cronyism. It's that brazen taking of money. 00:20:00.670 --> 00:20:05.730 It's just that entire the laws be damn cow de your bullshit. 00:20:06.050 --> 00:20:09.370 Okay. this is exactly what they were they 00:20:09.370 --> 00:20:13.210 they were like trying to get away from yeah and 00:20:13.210 --> 00:20:16.190 this son of a bitch has brought that like you know 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:19.490 to the u.s there was 00:20:19.490 --> 00:20:22.650 a bloomberg columnist the other day that was talking 00:20:22.650 --> 00:20:25.630 specifically look man trump's like 00:20:25.630 --> 00:20:28.990 presidency is like some latin american 00:20:28.990 --> 00:20:31.690 you know populist and it's the 00:20:31.690 --> 00:20:34.770 populism specifically we're talking about it says but some latin 00:20:34.770 --> 00:20:37.930 american populism takes takes power and starts 00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:41.170 like just ignoring every law and starts 00:20:41.170 --> 00:20:43.930 you know this entire you know enriches every 00:20:43.930 --> 00:20:48.190 single one of his cronies that's exactly what they've done through history and 00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:52.710 what the u.s you know to a certain extent listen i know that people say well 00:20:52.710 --> 00:20:56.610 you know people they haven't gotten rich or whatever it's not been like this 00:20:56.610 --> 00:21:01.390 level okay it's not been it's not been like this. 00:21:01.930 --> 00:21:08.750 And not this blatant either. And not this blatant. And not this flaunting of the law either. 00:21:09.030 --> 00:21:13.510 Yes. Even when people did bad things, they realized they were doing bad things 00:21:13.510 --> 00:21:14.850 and tried to keep it secret. 00:21:15.330 --> 00:21:15.570 Right. 00:21:15.830 --> 00:21:18.650 And if they got caught, it would be a big deal. 00:21:18.790 --> 00:21:20.690 Right. These guys don't care. 00:21:21.130 --> 00:21:26.750 They're just like... And it ties to like, you know, we've talked before like, 00:21:26.850 --> 00:21:33.290 people have a really hard time Like, like if, if somebody does think something 00:21:33.290 --> 00:21:35.970 openly, well, it can't be a big deal, right? 00:21:36.050 --> 00:21:39.610 It can't be, they're just doing it. If it was illegal, they wouldn't do that. 00:21:39.730 --> 00:21:43.550 And, and even the people who were like, theoretically would go after them for 00:21:43.550 --> 00:21:47.210 stuff are like, well, he's not even denying it. 00:21:47.330 --> 00:21:50.730 He's just out there doing it. What, what the hell do we do? Yeah. 00:21:52.540 --> 00:22:03.280 So I think that was my key takeaway. It's just being, we've imported the worst of, and, uh. 00:22:03.420 --> 00:22:06.220 You know, Yvonne? I will say, but on the flip side. Wait, wait, 00:22:06.300 --> 00:22:08.020 wait, wait. Yvonne, Yvonne, this is important. 00:22:08.620 --> 00:22:12.100 We've imported the worst. It must have been all those damn immigrants we let 00:22:12.100 --> 00:22:14.420 in. Yes, of course. That have brought this culture up here. 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.640 Well, like Elon Musk, yes. 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:17.000 So, so we have to. 00:22:17.080 --> 00:22:18.560 And Melania and Elon. 00:22:18.560 --> 00:22:23.980 So we have to deport all these people, just like Donald Trump says, 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:25.700 to fix all the corruption. 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:32.140 Yes, that's the solution. And, you know, it's just. 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:35.720 Obviously, I'm being sarcastic and joking, just to be clear. 00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:41.820 Yeah, it's just so let's see if you get one of those TikTok clips, you know, just a clip. 00:22:41.940 --> 00:22:45.020 But it's just that that'll be your that'll be your like, you know, 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:49.360 your Waterloo. um you know it's just, 00:22:52.560 --> 00:22:58.440 it's just very frustrating to see this at this level and i i guess that was 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:01.860 what they saw as their frustration it's like what the fuck man this is what 00:23:01.860 --> 00:23:03.640 we've been running trying to run away from, 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:09.340 and it's just what what they've been running away from and now all of a sudden 00:23:09.340 --> 00:23:12.900 it's like here yeah and and. 00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:18.640 It's one of those things too like once it's ingrained it's really hard to get 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.780 out of it i'm not saying it's. 00:23:19.780 --> 00:23:22.520 Impossible but it's hard there is a flip side there is a 00:23:22.520 --> 00:23:26.300 flip side to it i i will say that the one thing is that i i realized a little 00:23:26.300 --> 00:23:32.220 bit that even though sam was like i i read some i i re you know i don't i'm 00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:37.660 not getting as angry about stuff but i read something a little bit before and 00:23:37.660 --> 00:23:40.160 sam was like why are you looking bad i'm like i can't remember what the fuck 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.460 story. I saw it. I was just like, 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:45.580 again fucking people so but i'm 00:23:45.580 --> 00:23:48.820 not getting as bad about it anymore i 00:23:48.820 --> 00:23:55.660 i will admit that me spending several years in argentina seeing this firsthand 00:23:55.660 --> 00:24:07.980 and how somehow people in society were still resilient and came out ahead even through all this muck, 00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:13.320 is the one thing that just keeps you like, okay, you know, I mean. 00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:15.640 I, it takes a while though. Right. You know? 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:17.260 Yeah. Yeah. 00:24:18.420 --> 00:24:19.600 I mean, it takes a while. 00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:23.520 But, but, but what I say is that, you know, look, we, you know, 00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:27.520 somehow battle through it in one way or another. 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.440 You know, um, the problem with a lot 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.540 of this stuff is and people have characterized it as 00:24:33.540 --> 00:24:40.420 societies that are strong on trust versus weak on trust like what are the assumptions 00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:45.940 about like can you feel trustful that your neighbor will do the right thing 00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:49.500 that politicians will do the right thing that whatever well i think that's the 00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:50.820 biggest thing that's been eroded. 00:24:50.820 --> 00:24:51.720 In america over. 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:54.420 The last 30 40 50 years and that's a 00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:57.500 that's the point is it's it's a lot easier 00:24:57.500 --> 00:25:00.240 to break trust than it is to 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:05.420 build it back up it just it takes it takes a lot of time to build it back up 00:25:05.420 --> 00:25:11.440 like it takes one or two incidents of like people trying to tear everything 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:16.340 down like trump is right now to really erode trust and erode it quickly because 00:25:16.340 --> 00:25:20.140 you get the mindset that you know it's everybody okay now. 00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:21.960 From one but yeah but but but. 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:26.620 From one but to build you need a history of like lots of people doing the right 00:25:26.620 --> 00:25:28.700 thing over an extended length of time which. 00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:31.480 May be the one advantage that we have on trump is that 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:35.520 so many people really even though they say they wouldn't change their boat right 00:25:35.520 --> 00:25:43.060 now are repeatedly have said that oh my god we voted for him and this is not 00:25:43.060 --> 00:25:49.120 what we voted for he he lied to us and survey after survey keeps finding this 00:25:49.120 --> 00:25:51.200 over and over, like right now, 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.620 you know, so, so, but, but, you know, not, 00:25:55.300 --> 00:25:59.840 my whole thing that I was getting more was just, I had been talking that, 00:26:00.360 --> 00:26:05.980 you know, we've been sharing some articles about how people are just not as social anymore. 00:26:05.980 --> 00:26:13.140 And so I had been like mentioning the opposite where I have, I have gone back to, 00:26:14.770 --> 00:26:17.990 levels of socialization that predate the 00:26:17.990 --> 00:26:20.790 pandemic at this point okay in large part 00:26:20.790 --> 00:26:23.750 because i've been having to fucking travel like crazy 00:26:23.750 --> 00:26:29.370 and another part because i i did make a conservative effort at changing that 00:26:29.370 --> 00:26:33.650 especially it seems some people i know i'm actually seeing sam i say i told 00:26:33.650 --> 00:26:37.190 sam that because my wife wanted to go to vancouver i'm gonna make it that we 00:26:37.190 --> 00:26:41.710 go to seattle first and then so we'll have a i guess we'll announce the curmudgeon's 00:26:41.710 --> 00:26:43.470 corner meetup oh yeah yeah i. 00:26:43.470 --> 00:26:44.990 I remember you mentioning it. 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:47.090 Yeah, it's the week of the 4th of July. 00:26:47.470 --> 00:26:49.350 Oh, the 4th of July. Okay. 00:26:49.550 --> 00:26:50.390 Yeah. Okay. 00:26:50.850 --> 00:26:51.570 We can do fireworks. 00:26:52.170 --> 00:26:54.850 Well, I think I'm going to be on the 4th of July in Vancouver. 00:26:55.110 --> 00:26:57.650 Oh, okay. The week of. The week of. 00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:03.250 Right. I don't think the Canadians are going to be celebrating our independence this year very much. 00:27:04.590 --> 00:27:05.710 No. No. 00:27:06.030 --> 00:27:09.330 I have the strange feeling. They're not going to be very excited. 00:27:09.510 --> 00:27:13.570 We'll be lucky if we're not at war by that point. You know? Basically. With Canada? 00:27:13.810 --> 00:27:13.930 Yes. 00:27:14.090 --> 00:27:14.990 With Canada, yes. 00:27:15.530 --> 00:27:19.390 You know, that's that movie, did you ever watch the movie, I should put it on 00:27:19.390 --> 00:27:20.730 your list if you have Canadian bacon. 00:27:21.030 --> 00:27:24.290 I have not watched Canadian bacon. I have heard of it. 00:27:24.290 --> 00:27:26.450 Okay, so you need to watch Canadian bacon. 00:27:26.610 --> 00:27:28.590 I'm going to add it to the stupid list. 00:27:28.610 --> 00:27:32.670 Basically, a president is unpopular and he decides that, well, 00:27:32.970 --> 00:27:38.250 the Soviet Union had fallen, so they decided that, well, we'll just make our 00:27:38.250 --> 00:27:39.710 straw man, we'll make it Canada. 00:27:40.330 --> 00:27:40.590 Right. 00:27:40.830 --> 00:27:45.870 So Americans can hate Canada. We're going to go to war against Canada or at 00:27:45.870 --> 00:27:47.150 least make everybody hate Canada. 00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:54.110 Well, the scenario I was figuring would play out is if Ford in Ontario actually 00:27:54.110 --> 00:27:56.650 did like cut off electricity to New York or whatever, 00:27:56.910 --> 00:28:00.690 I could see Donald Trump responding by like, well, we're going to go take over 00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:02.570 to power plants in Canada. 00:28:03.550 --> 00:28:05.210 You know, and there you go. 00:28:05.850 --> 00:28:06.610 That'll be something. 00:28:08.610 --> 00:28:09.450 Anyway, anyway. 00:28:10.010 --> 00:28:13.630 So, so, so, so yeah. So I've been making this, the, the, the, 00:28:13.750 --> 00:28:15.190 so I've been, so I've been seeing more people. 00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:18.410 So that's one of the things that I've been, some of the conversations that have 00:28:18.410 --> 00:28:23.510 been coming up and like actually, uh, sitting down with lunch with people for two and a half hours. 00:28:24.310 --> 00:28:25.190 That's a nice lunch. 00:28:26.230 --> 00:28:30.130 Yeah, we did. We, we had our quarterly results and we had a very good quarter. 00:28:30.130 --> 00:28:35.050 And so we, uh, our boss decided that we, uh, deserved a nice lunch. 00:28:35.730 --> 00:28:36.770 Can't complain about that. 00:28:37.170 --> 00:28:43.590 There you go. Nice. Yeah. Now I can say my socialization levels have never been 00:28:43.590 --> 00:28:44.770 high and they're still not high. 00:28:45.290 --> 00:28:48.350 I, I avoid it whenever possible for the most part. 00:28:48.810 --> 00:28:52.670 Like the thing is I'm in fucking sales. I gotta go fucking talk to people, man. 00:28:52.970 --> 00:28:57.950 Look, I, I don't, I don't, I, I will admit that I, I, but I fall into the, 00:28:57.990 --> 00:29:02.110 uh, for example, I'll go and I'll visit my customers. 00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:05.110 I'll go to a lunch. But for example, there, somebody was asking me like, 00:29:05.330 --> 00:29:08.090 how many times are you dying alone on like a business trip? And I say a lot. 00:29:08.510 --> 00:29:11.390 I'm like, why? Because look, I already met people at the office. 00:29:11.530 --> 00:29:13.610 I went and talked to customers. I did all of this. 00:29:14.030 --> 00:29:18.790 By the end of the night, I'm like, look, I don't want, I don't want to be on at dinner too. 00:29:19.230 --> 00:29:23.750 I'm like, okay, that I like my socialization. I got it. I'm good. 00:29:24.290 --> 00:29:26.870 Let me, let me sit and have dinner by myself. Thank you. 00:29:27.470 --> 00:29:28.690 Yes. Yeah. Okay. 00:29:28.970 --> 00:29:29.110 Yeah. 00:29:29.350 --> 00:29:30.770 Okay. My turn? 00:29:31.110 --> 00:29:31.510 Yes. 00:29:32.210 --> 00:29:35.210 Okay. Hold on. What, Alex? 00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:42.890 Okay. This is too long. I'm not going to read all of this. 00:29:43.930 --> 00:29:52.710 Tell you what. I will, as the first break, I will insert it reading this. Okay? 00:29:53.150 --> 00:29:56.470 Instead of the break I had picked. Okay. 00:29:58.310 --> 00:30:07.390 Okay. Okay, so as you heard, Alex has requested a thing that I will include as the first break. 00:30:07.590 --> 00:30:14.570 He has some stuff that he has had an AI generate regarding to an educational 00:30:14.570 --> 00:30:19.650 show we watched together recently. But I will have Siri read that out loud or 00:30:19.650 --> 00:30:22.090 something as our first break. Okay. 00:30:22.810 --> 00:30:25.570 Instead of whatever I had determined previously. 00:30:26.330 --> 00:30:28.570 Now, and yeah, whatever. 00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:34.810 Okay, but the one I had in place was a TV show this time. 00:30:35.070 --> 00:30:36.150 A TV show? 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:42.170 A TV show that I finished in June of last year. 00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:46.790 And again, I talk about TV shows when I actually finished them, 00:30:46.810 --> 00:30:50.970 so I can talk about all the seasons and everything else. 00:30:51.070 --> 00:30:55.170 Well, I'm not going to talk about all the seasons. Anyway, the show was Stargate SG-1. 00:30:55.170 --> 00:31:00.890 okay for those of you who don't remember this this was on from 1997 i was gonna 00:31:00.890 --> 00:31:07.710 say in the 90s right yeah it's well 1997 to 2007 okay so the first thing i'll mention about it yeah. 00:31:07.710 --> 00:31:12.870 I will say that i i don't think i've ever watched one episode of stargate sg1. 00:31:12.870 --> 00:31:19.130 Okay so i'll get to it in a second but the first thing i wanted to mention about 00:31:19.130 --> 00:31:26.190 it was okay the show was on 10 seasons 1997 to 2007 when we watch 10 seasons 00:31:26.190 --> 00:31:30.130 1997 to 2007 that's not counting spinoffs and this is like. 00:31:30.130 --> 00:31:35.710 The right the the are these like the conventional regular uh seasons 24 episodes 00:31:35.710 --> 00:31:36.750 so you're talking about 200. 00:31:36.750 --> 00:31:41.850 Episodes around there i think that's approximately correct let me i mean i will 00:31:41.850 --> 00:31:47.050 double check it for you and make sure i have the numbers yeah the the first 00:31:47.050 --> 00:31:50.330 seven seasons were 22 episodes, the last three were 20. 00:31:51.130 --> 00:31:52.190 Okay, so yeah, close. 00:31:52.370 --> 00:31:59.950 So that's a total of, scrolling down real quick, 214 episodes of the series. That was close. 00:32:00.370 --> 00:32:06.630 Now, it also had spinoff series, and there were also three made-for-TV movies 00:32:06.630 --> 00:32:08.070 that were after the series. 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:11.390 I haven't watched the made-for-TV movies yet, only the series itself. 00:32:11.630 --> 00:32:21.410 And of course, it was the whole series was a sequel to Stargate the movie... 00:32:22.530 --> 00:32:26.510 Which was by, let's see. Menem? 00:32:27.030 --> 00:32:33.950 Which was a 1994 movie with a different cast. So they recast it for the TV show. 00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:34.950 Wait, what year was the movie? 00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:35.870 1994. 00:32:36.590 --> 00:32:39.550 There was a movie? It started as a movie? 00:32:39.870 --> 00:32:44.670 Yes, there was a Stargate movie, which I have also watched. It was like years 00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:47.710 ago. Let me check. When did I watch the Stargate movie? 00:32:48.710 --> 00:32:51.490 Now I have to check that too, because you brought it up. 00:32:57.230 --> 00:33:00.470 here we go okay i. 00:33:00.470 --> 00:33:04.510 Watched the original feature film here it is star i watched i do remember this 00:33:04.510 --> 00:33:11.710 i it's just i never associated stargate sg1 with the movie stargate for whatever 00:33:11.710 --> 00:33:14.430 reason now i don't think i've watched the film either. 00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:20.470 Yeah so i watched the movie in 2014 okay but but Yes. 00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:24.390 So, and I keep trying to make this one point that I thought was really cool 00:33:24.390 --> 00:33:26.030 and you keep distracting me from it. 00:33:26.250 --> 00:33:26.370 Sorry. 00:33:26.630 --> 00:33:30.710 Okay. It's 10 seasons, 1997 to 2007. 00:33:31.210 --> 00:33:34.870 But when we watched it this time, this is actually one that I started after 00:33:34.870 --> 00:33:43.610 I was logging everything properly. So I know when I started it and we watched it from 2014 to 2024. 00:33:44.350 --> 00:33:49.590 So it was originally 10 years and 10 seasons and it took me 10 years to watch it. 00:33:50.230 --> 00:33:56.130 when I watched it now. So I was essentially rewatching it in real time or, 00:33:57.630 --> 00:34:01.290 you know, with, I mean, it wasn't the same like spacing, right? 00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:04.850 Like I didn't like do a season and then take the summer off or whatever they 00:34:04.850 --> 00:34:09.970 did in the original, but yeah, it took me 10 years to rewatch the show that 00:34:09.970 --> 00:34:12.090 was originally on the air for 10 years. 00:34:12.810 --> 00:34:20.110 so okay so because because you know because i'm not binge watching in the way that you know instead, 00:34:20.750 --> 00:34:25.390 i am wrote i'm watching a whole bunch of different shows and we watch one episode 00:34:25.390 --> 00:34:28.770 every once in a while and as it turns out it took 10 years to watch 10 years 00:34:28.770 --> 00:34:33.970 of this show so so that you know that tells you how fast i'm gonna catch up 00:34:33.970 --> 00:34:40.670 on law and order as well yes jesus which which by the way we just started season three. Like, uh... 00:34:40.670 --> 00:34:45.250 Okay, well, you're not moving as... You're moving faster on Law & Order, it seems. 00:34:45.410 --> 00:34:49.390 Maybe a little bit. Like, season one took me almost a year. So... 00:34:49.390 --> 00:34:49.610 Okay. 00:34:49.870 --> 00:34:54.230 But, anyway, we're not talking about Law & Order. We're talking about Stargate SG-1. 00:34:55.170 --> 00:35:00.410 Anyway, I give it a thumbs up. I really enjoyed Stargate SG-1 as a show. 00:35:00.550 --> 00:35:04.410 I watched it... I did watch it when it was originally on TV, 00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:10.270 but sort of spotty. It wasn't necessarily one that I saw every episode all the time. 00:35:10.470 --> 00:35:14.610 I think it was only partway through the original run that I got like a TiVo, 00:35:14.750 --> 00:35:18.070 you know, so that I was more likely to hit every episode. 00:35:18.830 --> 00:35:23.030 But I enjoyed the show. The basic premise, for anybody who doesn't know, 00:35:23.250 --> 00:35:27.770 is that, well, in the movie, originally, they dig up a Stargate in Egypt. 00:35:27.890 --> 00:35:32.250 Like it's underneath in some archaeological thing. 00:35:32.370 --> 00:35:36.090 I forget if it was under a pyramid or nearby or whatever. But they dig up this 00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:38.210 thing and then they figure out how to activate it. 00:35:38.230 --> 00:35:42.870 And it turns out like it's a portal that you can walk through and go to other planets. 00:35:43.420 --> 00:35:48.260 You know, so instead of space travel through spaceships, it's space travel through 00:35:48.260 --> 00:35:51.980 portals that you can activate and as a thing you can dial to pick where you're 00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:53.220 going and blah, blah, blah. 00:35:53.640 --> 00:35:57.680 And so they start exploring, exploring the universe with this thing, 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.960 or at least the galaxy in the, in the original movie that it's basically all 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.560 an adventure to the first planet. 00:36:03.700 --> 00:36:08.200 They figure out how to get to, and it ties into the whole Egyptian theme and all that. 00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:14.380 the movie picks up, or sorry, the TV show picks up after the movie. 00:36:14.540 --> 00:36:19.760 So it is, they make, there are some subtle differences, like the lead character's 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.280 name is spelled differently. 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:26.300 A few little things like that to sort of hint that maybe it's not exactly the 00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:28.080 same, because of course they recast everybody. 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.380 So they, you know, it's the same characters plus some new ones, 00:36:32.580 --> 00:36:40.380 but it's, you know, it's unclear Is it actually exactly the same universe or 00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:44.000 is it like a subtly different universe from the movie? It doesn't matter. 00:36:44.140 --> 00:36:46.340 It effectively acts as a sequel to the movie. 00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:52.220 And then, of course, as they start exploring the galaxy, they find enemies that, 00:36:52.220 --> 00:36:54.500 you know, don't like the fact that they're there. 00:36:54.640 --> 00:36:57.040 And, oh, like we'll go after the Earth and blah, blah, blah. 00:36:57.980 --> 00:37:02.040 Adventures ensue. over the course of the ten seasons there are. 00:37:03.260 --> 00:37:09.140 They change sort of the villains up a few times because like they sort of have 00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:12.820 done everything they could do with the first set of villains and so then they 00:37:12.820 --> 00:37:16.700 bring in new ones and then they bring in new ones again and there were a few 00:37:16.700 --> 00:37:19.180 times where cast members, 00:37:19.720 --> 00:37:24.880 you know came and went and so there were sort of replacement characters a few 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.360 times but I will say one thing that this series did, 00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:36.060 that i think is better than what some have done is like first of all aside from 00:37:36.060 --> 00:37:39.700 the switch from the movie to the tv show they didn't just flat out recast people 00:37:39.700 --> 00:37:44.720 like if the actor was not available then the character went away in some way 00:37:44.720 --> 00:37:49.000 you know um you know and and so. 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.300 The character you know god it's gone. 00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:54.340 Yeah and the thing is they 00:37:54.340 --> 00:37:58.000 they also were fairly good with a couple notable exceptions they 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.660 didn't like kill them off either like something happened to them because in 00:38:02.660 --> 00:38:07.440 many cases they came back like you know they would come back for guest appearances 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:11.620 in some cases they were gone for a season and then came back for real or even 00:38:11.620 --> 00:38:15.220 the season they were gone they made cameos occasionally so it's not like. 00:38:15.220 --> 00:38:19.820 We talked about with spike not spike uh with uh buffy but. 00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:20.280 Buffy were. 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:21.420 All of a sudden sister popped up. 00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:27.200 Right. And they did bring in new people, but like they were, 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.000 they were new characters. 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:33.140 Now you could tell that they were kind of the replacement for the character 00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:38.200 who left, but then they'd have episodes where they were like together with the 00:38:38.200 --> 00:38:42.140 old person because the old person came for a cameo and there were subtle differences. 00:38:42.140 --> 00:38:43.900 So they weren't exact clones. 00:38:44.180 --> 00:38:48.300 You could tell they were sort of filling that spot, but they didn't pretend 00:38:48.300 --> 00:38:52.140 like for anybody who remembers the Dukes of Hazzard. 00:38:52.680 --> 00:38:58.500 There were there was one season where Bo and Luke Duke, the actors who played 00:38:58.500 --> 00:39:02.120 them, like wanted more money and they didn't want to give it to them. 00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:05.120 So there was a season with a replacement Bo and Luke. 00:39:05.160 --> 00:39:11.320 Oh, my God. I remember this. And I remember being very confused by it. 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.580 It was like their cousins or something. So it wasn't Bo and Luke. 00:39:14.740 --> 00:39:20.120 They did make them new characters, but they essentially played the same characters. 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.080 They had a different name. They looked like Luke. 00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:25.580 I'm like, where are they? 00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:29.040 What the hell's going on? Why are these two guys in the fucking, 00:39:29.040 --> 00:39:32.460 you know, General Lee? What the hell is this shit? 00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:36.260 Yes. And then they brought him back the next season. And I think they did have 00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:39.980 one crossover episode where they were both there. But like, anyway, 00:39:40.180 --> 00:39:41.740 this has done better than that. 00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:46.860 And it is kind of weird as you go on towards the end when like, 00:39:47.020 --> 00:39:49.780 it's like, okay, well, we've defeated that enemy. 00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:56.960 So here's a new enemy, you know, you know, and, and one interesting part for 00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:02.800 the last couple of seasons, they brought in a couple new characters that were just happened to be. 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:08.020 They were characters from another sci-fi series called Farscape. 00:40:08.460 --> 00:40:13.900 They weren't brought in as their Farscape characters, but like they were so 00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:17.500 strongly associated with that other series that it was interesting. 00:40:17.640 --> 00:40:22.960 They brought in both of them and they were interacting with each other as new characters. 00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:27.160 And they, they made jokes about it on the show because like, 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.240 you know, anybody watching the show probably was familiar with the other show too. 00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:34.860 So there was like one dream sequence where everybody 00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:39.920 in stargate played characters from farscape essentially with different names 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.400 but they switched it up so it wasn't the same actors and actresses playing the 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.480 same roles that they actually played on the other it was funny anyway and there 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.300 there are a few like self-referential anniversary episodes and stuff that are 00:40:51.300 --> 00:40:54.300 cool anyway bottom line thumbs up to Stargate, 00:40:54.520 --> 00:40:57.620 if you like your sort of sci-fi shows, 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.480 you know, if, if, if you like, you know, 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.160 your, your Star Treks and, um, 00:41:06.020 --> 00:41:11.340 you know, other, other of these kinds of shows, you're going to like Stargate 00:41:11.340 --> 00:41:13.800 too. So if you haven't checked it out, go check it out. 00:41:14.180 --> 00:41:17.020 Like I said, it has a number of spinoff series too. 00:41:17.240 --> 00:41:24.140 We have, we have not watched the spinoff series yet. Like, like Stargate at itself. 00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:28.980 I watched a lot of them when they were originally on TV. 00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:30.200 Okay. 00:41:31.540 --> 00:41:36.040 Anyway, thumbs up for Stargate if you like those kinds of sci-fi shows. 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.520 The other spinoff shows I watched when they were originally on TV, 00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:41.420 again, sort of in a spotty way. 00:41:41.660 --> 00:41:44.640 Can't guarantee I watched every episode. I might eventually watch them again. 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:51.720 I might eventually watch the TV movies that occurred after the main Stargate 00:41:51.720 --> 00:41:54.040 series because I have not seen those. 00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:59.800 And I want to. Cause like they sort of, there's some loose ends from the end 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.420 of the series that are apparently wrapped up in those made for TV movies. 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:03.960 Okay. 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:09.660 So anyway, a lot of fun. Thumbs up. Stargate SG one. There you go. That's it. 00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:13.920 By the way, I was checking on this whole thing because I, you know what? 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.860 I didn't realize that's what happened with Dukes of Hasbro. 00:42:18.160 --> 00:42:18.560 Okay. 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.880 You see, I did, I did. I, you know, I know that all. 00:42:21.940 --> 00:42:22.560 Cause you were a kid. 00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:25.620 There were a whole bunch of episodes. well yeah i realized a whole bunch of 00:42:25.620 --> 00:42:29.060 episodes that they weren't there and i'm like who the fuck are these guys i 00:42:29.060 --> 00:42:31.720 remember you know what was i right was. 00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:32.520 It a money dispute. 00:42:33.140 --> 00:42:37.920 No no you were you were absolutely correct about it and and so but what happened 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.800 was you know they held out they they cast these two guys that looked looked 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.880 a lot like them then they said that the duke boys went to race in nascar somehow 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.840 yep for a while and what happened was that the ratings, like, crashed. 00:42:53.220 --> 00:43:01.220 And so, you know, so they were like, you know, I think it was Warner Brothers 00:43:01.220 --> 00:43:03.980 was like, ah, shit. You know, we got to... 00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:04.740 You can have your money. 00:43:04.980 --> 00:43:12.400 Yeah, we'll give you the money. We need you guys back because the ratings got hammered. 00:43:12.660 --> 00:43:13.380 So, yeah. 00:43:15.020 --> 00:43:19.960 But they did come back and it was for a couple of more seasons. I'm looking at it here. 00:43:20.180 --> 00:43:24.580 Hang on. They had a chart, but, but I think the damage is kind of like, 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.220 actually it, yeah, it, it, it only lasted two seasons. 00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:29.160 It never recovered. 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.340 It never really fully recovered from that. 00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:36.870 So the bottom line is that you should have just given them the fucking money. 00:43:37.650 --> 00:43:37.790 Yep. 00:43:39.170 --> 00:43:39.850 So anyway. 00:43:40.230 --> 00:43:43.330 Well, on the Stargate one, there was one actor who was like, 00:43:43.410 --> 00:43:46.930 you know, I'm kind of, he wanted more money too, but also he was like, 00:43:46.990 --> 00:43:48.750 I want to explore other things, blah, blah, blah. 00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:52.990 And so he went into just doing those cameos for a season. 00:43:53.370 --> 00:43:57.630 And then they were like, here's your money. Come back, please. 00:43:58.250 --> 00:44:02.910 He was like, oh, okay, I'll come back. And there's another character, 00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:07.510 Colonel Jack O'Neill, who was the head of the team the whole time, 00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:12.050 also kept trying to say he was retired from acting and done. 00:44:12.390 --> 00:44:16.230 And so he left the show a couple times, but they kept convincing him to come 00:44:16.230 --> 00:44:20.590 back for cameos to the point where they made jokes about it on the show. 00:44:20.630 --> 00:44:22.930 I thought you were retired. Why are you here? 00:44:23.290 --> 00:44:25.950 Things like that. So anyway. 00:44:27.990 --> 00:44:32.330 Anyway, we're done. It's time for a break. And I promised this thing. 00:44:33.670 --> 00:44:38.510 So just so Yvonne can hear here, I'm going to, I'm going to play it into the microphone. 00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:47.470 Okay. So there, there are several of these, he sent me three segments, 00:44:47.630 --> 00:44:48.910 each of which have a bunch of words. 00:44:48.950 --> 00:44:51.930 So we'll see how long this takes a few minutes, probably. Here we go. 00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:56.430 I don't have the exact transcript of Sam's, but first on that Nova episode, 00:44:56.430 --> 00:44:58.890 but I can summarize the key points for you. 00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:03.130 Sam starts by mentioning how he was watching the Nova episode about dino birds, 00:45:03.310 --> 00:45:06.150 and got curious about the coordinates they flashed on screen. 00:45:06.450 --> 00:45:10.930 They showed a full 12-digit latitude longitude, and a shorter 6-digit one, 00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:12.830 which immediately made him suspicious. 00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:17.350 Why the inconsistency? He went down a rabbit hole, checking Wikipedia, 00:45:17.610 --> 00:45:21.950 of course, and even pulling up Google Earth to see if they matched any known dig sites. 00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:25.910 The best part? He gets so caught up in it that he debates messaging the Nova 00:45:25.910 --> 00:45:30.110 producers directly, just to ask if the numbers were real are just placeholders. 00:45:30.370 --> 00:45:35.190 He knows it's a long shot, but the inconsistency is bothering him too much to let it go. 00:45:35.630 --> 00:45:39.070 Classic Sam, getting fixated on details no one else notices, 00:45:39.290 --> 00:45:41.410 and then almost emailing PBS about it. 00:45:41.970 --> 00:45:43.010 Okay, next. 00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:47.930 Ivan, you ever have one of those moments where you're watching something completely 00:45:47.930 --> 00:45:52.710 normal, just enjoying yourself, and then suddenly boom, you're spiraling down 00:45:52.710 --> 00:45:54.630 a research hole you didn't even know existed? 00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:58.190 Sam, every day of my life. Ivan, right? 00:45:58.410 --> 00:46:02.430 So I'm watching this Nova episode about dino birds, feathered dinosaurs, 00:46:02.830 --> 00:46:04.790 fossilized impressions, the whole deal. 00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:07.230 And then they throw up some coordinates on the screen. 00:46:07.510 --> 00:46:13.210 Just numbers, right? But something feels off. Sam, oh no. No. Ivan? Yeah. 00:46:13.550 --> 00:46:18.850 One of them is a full 12-digit latitude and longitude. The kind that gets you down to a square meter. 00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:23.510 The other? Just six digits. That's not right. I paused the episode, 00:46:23.750 --> 00:46:25.330 rewound, checked again. 00:46:25.610 --> 00:46:28.810 And then, obviously, I had to open Google Earth. 00:46:29.110 --> 00:46:32.770 Sam, of course. You had no choice. Ivan? Exactly. 00:46:33.170 --> 00:46:36.450 And then I thought, well, maybe they rounded one for some reason, 00:46:36.850 --> 00:46:40.210 but why would they? It's Nova, not some History Channel nonsense. 00:46:40.470 --> 00:46:46.070 So I start looking up known dig sites, trying to match locations, but nothing quite fits. 00:46:46.270 --> 00:46:48.470 Sam, you're going to email them, aren't you? 00:46:48.690 --> 00:46:52.650 Ivan, I'm thinking about it, just a polite message to the producers, 00:46:52.970 --> 00:46:55.510 asking if those numbers are real or placeholders. 00:46:56.030 --> 00:46:59.690 For science, Sam, this is why I love and fear you. 00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:01.570 Okay, last one. 00:47:02.930 --> 00:47:06.790 Sam, but first, you ever be watching something totally normal, 00:47:07.070 --> 00:47:11.150 just a casual educational program, and then suddenly you're deep in coordinates. 00:47:11.610 --> 00:47:15.090 Checking decimal places like your life depends on it, because that's where I 00:47:15.090 --> 00:47:17.090 was with this Nova episode about dino birds. 00:47:17.390 --> 00:47:21.550 They throw up a set of latitude and longitude coordinates, one of them a full 00:47:21.550 --> 00:47:24.430 12-digit precision point, the other just six digits. 00:47:24.710 --> 00:47:30.690 And immediately, I'm like, hold on, that's weird. So I pause, rewind, check again. 00:47:31.560 --> 00:47:34.460 that's what they showed now i could have just let it go 00:47:34.460 --> 00:47:37.360 but obviously i didn't next thing i know 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.860 i've got google earth open i'm checking known dig sites i'm cross-referencing 00:47:41.860 --> 00:47:46.240 wikipedia and none of it is adding up so now i'm at the point where i might 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:50.960 actually email the nova producers and ask hey what's going on with these coordinates 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:56.760 are these real or did someone just make up some numbers because i need to know okay. 00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.760 Alex just sent more but that's not happening 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:08.040 today we've already done three he's fighting me over it maybe more some other 00:48:08.040 --> 00:48:12.100 time anyway that was based on a true story we were actually watching the nova 00:48:12.100 --> 00:48:16.940 episode on dino birds which is a the most well not the most recent it's a recent 00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:18.680 nova episode from this year. 00:48:18.680 --> 00:48:23.660 Ivan you ever just be watching nova thinking it's going to be a nice relaxing 00:48:23.660 --> 00:48:26.360 time and then suddenly you're in no. 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:31.700 Quiet series And anyway, this is, uh, it actually did happen. 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.060 They had, they had coordinates on the screen. Like when they were talking to 00:48:35.060 --> 00:48:39.280 people at a new place, they'd put coordinates in the bottom left hand of the 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:40.600 thing. And there'd be a little animation. 00:48:41.060 --> 00:48:46.420 And I noticed that they had like, it was like the degrees period. 00:48:46.640 --> 00:48:51.840 And then like 12, 14 digits. I, so I had to pause it. I worked it out. 00:48:52.060 --> 00:48:55.500 That locates your position on the planet down to a nanometer. 00:48:56.250 --> 00:49:02.610 Oh, wow. There's no reason to locate you down to a nanometer when you're just 00:49:02.610 --> 00:49:05.450 showing that you're at some building where they're doing something. 00:49:05.690 --> 00:49:08.850 And then I tried to look up some of these coordinates to like, 00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:12.190 like they showed like the person in front of the building talking about whatever. 00:49:12.330 --> 00:49:15.090 I looked up the coordinates. There was one that was in the suburbs of Beijing 00:49:15.090 --> 00:49:19.470 and it was in the suburbs of Beijing, but it was not in front of the building 00:49:19.470 --> 00:49:20.930 that they were showing on the thing. 00:49:21.010 --> 00:49:23.450 I looked at like the satellite view and stuff. 00:49:23.610 --> 00:49:26.370 It was in a field, not at the building. so i'm 00:49:26.370 --> 00:49:30.350 like getting upset by this you know and like 00:49:30.350 --> 00:49:33.190 what are they doing and i'm like they probably rounded and then added 00:49:33.190 --> 00:49:36.330 extra digits but what's up with the extra digits are they random are 00:49:36.330 --> 00:49:39.150 they inserting some sort of code is it like a secret 00:49:39.150 --> 00:49:44.550 message that producers have to like put in their kid's name and code or their 00:49:44.550 --> 00:49:50.290 wife's name or something now of course i did not you know i am ashamed of myself 00:49:50.290 --> 00:49:54.790 i did not investigate further writing down all the numbers and trying to see 00:49:54.790 --> 00:49:57.370 if there actually was a code and try to crack it in some way. 00:49:58.230 --> 00:50:03.050 But the fact that they had these extra digits there, I mean, 00:50:03.150 --> 00:50:09.070 immediately I was like, hey, just two or three, four or five digits after the 00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:11.950 decimal point gets you to like within a foot or two. 00:50:12.190 --> 00:50:15.870 Like, why are there 12? So anyway. 00:50:17.070 --> 00:50:25.310 Okay, Vaughn, Newsy topic. we've already got an hour on the non-newsy stuff or almost an hour so. 00:50:25.310 --> 00:50:33.770 I have to pick a newsy topic son of a bitch okay we're gonna pick well alright, 00:50:35.330 --> 00:50:40.070 let's shut down did we have a shutdown Sam we. 00:50:40.070 --> 00:50:41.910 Did not have a shutdown okay 00:50:42.310 --> 00:50:47.310 You know, maybe, maybe like, let's expand this slightly from shutdown. 00:50:47.670 --> 00:50:54.170 Like, cause I think there's a big thing here about how the Democrats handled 00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:57.450 the shutdown versus how Democrats. 00:50:57.450 --> 00:51:00.130 Or how Chuck Schumer handled that. 00:51:00.990 --> 00:51:04.670 Yes. Well, Chuck Schumer and a bunch of people who went along with him, 00:51:04.830 --> 00:51:10.350 but like, I feel like there's a fundamental contrast here between how certain 00:51:10.350 --> 00:51:13.850 Democrats like Schumer are handling things versus how. 00:51:14.050 --> 00:51:14.990 And Fetterman. 00:51:15.190 --> 00:51:19.670 And Fetterman. And there were 10 senators who ended up voting for this thing. 00:51:19.850 --> 00:51:25.050 But like, but like contrasted to like things like, you know, 00:51:25.150 --> 00:51:27.950 we talked about AOC before. Bernie's doing some stuff. 00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:34.090 Walls is doing some stuff. and it like one quote that i saw and we will talk 00:51:34.090 --> 00:51:38.710 more specifically about the shutdown stuff itself i guess but i there was one quote. 00:51:38.710 --> 00:51:41.490 Well what shutdown there wasn't a fucking shutdown yeah what the 00:51:41.490 --> 00:51:46.930 fuck is there to talk about democrats i mean chuck schumer caved again chuck 00:51:46.930 --> 00:51:52.690 schumer caved let's be clear about this chuck schumer caved while extracting 00:51:52.690 --> 00:52:00.770 nothing right which that's the thing that really pisses me off because if you're going to do that, 00:52:01.070 --> 00:52:03.430 you needed to have gotten something out. 00:52:03.530 --> 00:52:12.670 Now, one quote that I thought was really on point was from Ann Caparra. 00:52:16.390 --> 00:52:23.110 Capra Ra. Anyway, Anne Capra Ra. She is apparently the chief of staff for Illinois Governor Pritzker. 00:52:23.510 --> 00:52:29.030 And she posted on Blue Sky, the fight going on in the Democratic Party right 00:52:29.030 --> 00:52:33.970 now is not between hard left, left, and moderate. 00:52:34.510 --> 00:52:39.850 Because a lot of people are putting this as sort of progressives versus moderates, but no, that's not. 00:52:40.650 --> 00:52:46.170 She says, it's between those who want to fight and those who want to cave. 00:52:46.510 --> 00:52:47.250 That's right. 00:52:47.590 --> 00:52:53.290 And team fight stretches across all ideological aspects of the park. 00:52:53.290 --> 00:52:54.270 Yes. Yes. 00:52:54.670 --> 00:52:57.230 Misread this at your own peril. 00:52:57.790 --> 00:52:59.250 She's totally right. 00:52:59.950 --> 00:53:06.470 Yeah. And I think there's a lot of this that's old guard versus new guard, 00:53:06.630 --> 00:53:09.190 but not even. Like Pelosi. Not even. 00:53:09.850 --> 00:53:12.670 Pelosi put out a statement that... 00:53:12.670 --> 00:53:13.770 Ripping Schumer! 00:53:14.210 --> 00:53:17.730 Ripping Schumer. Like, she didn't explicitly use his name and stuff, 00:53:17.810 --> 00:53:19.970 but she made it absolutely clear what she was talking about. 00:53:20.610 --> 00:53:24.790 And Jeffries, who I've had problems with as well, also is like, 00:53:24.890 --> 00:53:27.230 the House went on a limb for this. 00:53:27.470 --> 00:53:27.870 Yes! 00:53:28.250 --> 00:53:31.710 We 100% stayed together and voted against this. 00:53:31.710 --> 00:53:36.690 Listen, man, after you get the House to be that together. 00:53:37.670 --> 00:53:39.830 Chuck Schumer can't go... 00:53:39.850 --> 00:53:45.730 Yeah, well, OK, but after you get the house to stick together that way, 00:53:46.070 --> 00:53:51.650 what Chuck Schumer did is is dead right treasonous. 00:53:52.570 --> 00:53:56.170 I'm not sure I'd go that far, but it's it's definitely like, 00:53:56.470 --> 00:53:57.630 what the hell are you thinking? 00:53:57.810 --> 00:54:01.270 And like you said, it's no it no value extracted. 00:54:01.590 --> 00:54:03.910 Exactly. No value extracted. it. 00:54:04.090 --> 00:54:09.630 Nothing. You kind of knew in the end they had to make some sort of deal that 00:54:09.630 --> 00:54:15.390 would, like, not result in an extended government shutdown. But, 00:54:15.980 --> 00:54:20.380 To just sort of say, ah, okay. And like, look, the argument was, 00:54:20.560 --> 00:54:22.720 let's be fair and give the argument. 00:54:22.900 --> 00:54:27.600 Schumer's argument was basically, look, they kind of want the government shut 00:54:27.600 --> 00:54:31.300 down and it would empower them even more. 00:54:31.460 --> 00:54:36.680 Like once we're in a government shutdown, then you sort of even further justify 00:54:36.680 --> 00:54:39.320 all the cuts that they've been doing because they can be like, 00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:41.460 hey, we obviously don't need this. 00:54:41.580 --> 00:54:46.160 We're doing fine with everything shut down. and while they're in government 00:54:46.160 --> 00:54:49.880 shutdown they have a much more they have much more ability to pick and choose 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:51.780 what to shut down and what not to accept okay. 00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:55.440 Yeah yes that is the argument but again here's 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:02.040 a reality he caved many hours before he didn't even push this to the brink it's 00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:06.640 not like you know even if you didn't want the damn shutdown and you had your 00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:12.580 reasons it was the only bargaining chip that you had and you went like well. 00:55:12.580 --> 00:55:15.780 Before you didn't even try to use it yeah 00:55:15.780 --> 00:55:18.980 just to just to finish the picture it's because 00:55:18.980 --> 00:55:22.800 the way that they were pushing to extend 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.020 with a continuous continuing resolution was subject to the filibuster so they 00:55:27.020 --> 00:55:33.000 needed 60 votes in order to bring it to the floor for a real vote right which 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.620 only required 50 but you had that procedural step that did require the 60 votes, 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.220 which means it did need Democrats. 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:45.440 And so the leverage they had was they could have said right up front, 00:55:45.680 --> 00:55:48.340 no, we're not granting you this. 00:55:48.700 --> 00:55:52.500 You know, Republicans, you control the House, you control the Senate, 00:55:52.780 --> 00:55:57.260 you're on your own. But hey, look, you don't have enough to get this done. 00:55:57.520 --> 00:56:01.040 So you're not getting it done unless you give us something. 00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:01.920 Something. 00:56:02.380 --> 00:56:05.480 Something. You know, and they could have picked whatever. 00:56:05.600 --> 00:56:10.320 I think in the end, the deal was they could put four amendments on the floor 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.120 that would all lose. Like, what the fuck? 00:56:13.240 --> 00:56:14.640 But no, what the fuck? No. 00:56:14.980 --> 00:56:17.260 What's the point of that? No. 00:56:18.300 --> 00:56:20.180 It's just preposterous. 00:56:21.140 --> 00:56:25.840 You either hold out for a real deal where you make them back off from some of 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:32.320 their own priorities, or at the very least, you end up putting them on the spot, 00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.280 refusing to do things that are popular. 00:56:35.600 --> 00:56:38.840 Or insisting on doing things that are unpopular. 00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:42.300 And you make a spectacle out of that. 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:48.360 And you force them to be wide open, out there, on the record, 00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:53.760 about things that would hurt them politically. You at least do something. 00:56:54.100 --> 00:57:02.000 You try, you know, to get something out of it. And, you know... 00:57:02.710 --> 00:57:08.870 I still think here's the reality that the shutdown puts a lot of pressure on everybody. 00:57:09.390 --> 00:57:13.710 I, even with this thing, well, we could pick, choose whatever they couldn't 00:57:13.710 --> 00:57:17.990 really just pick and choose whatever you needed the damn filibuster breaker. 00:57:18.010 --> 00:57:21.110 It's not like they could do something, but you could have said, 00:57:21.230 --> 00:57:26.130 look, for example, I would, I think one that I would have, I would have said, 00:57:26.350 --> 00:57:29.370 okay, you guys want the pasta clean CR. 00:57:29.670 --> 00:57:33.450 Okay, great. Here's one condition. stop firing fucking veterans. 00:57:35.210 --> 00:57:42.050 How about that that's exactly that's exactly the kind of either they cave on 00:57:42.050 --> 00:57:45.030 that or you put them on the record not caving on the record. 00:57:46.190 --> 00:57:50.090 Basically saying hey you know what they refuse to protect veterans jobs they 00:57:50.090 --> 00:57:57.570 refuse to protect you had to do you had to use it and you just fucking just frittered it away. 00:57:57.570 --> 00:58:00.350 And there are a bunch of other things too like 00:58:00.350 --> 00:58:03.350 you could have them like i think chris hayes 00:58:03.350 --> 00:58:06.210 on msnbc has been on about this one you could have had them sort of 00:58:06.210 --> 00:58:11.410 do something to to sort of validate the elon musk stuff just right you know 00:58:11.410 --> 00:58:15.430 just list out all the stuff that he's doing all the people he's firing all the 00:58:15.430 --> 00:58:19.950 things he's shutting down and say okay look this stuff is illegal with musk 00:58:19.950 --> 00:58:23.770 just doing it on his own it would be perfectly legal if, 00:58:24.410 --> 00:58:30.250 congress passed a law about it so pass the damn law right you know and put them 00:58:30.250 --> 00:58:32.610 on the record about that. But no, just nothing. 00:58:32.990 --> 00:58:39.370 And I think this whole thing is, you know, this is once again, 00:58:39.610 --> 00:58:42.030 this sort of surrendering in advance kind of thing. 00:58:42.190 --> 00:58:48.050 And look, part of Schumer's argument here was, hey, if we held this up and the 00:58:48.050 --> 00:58:53.010 government was shut down, in the end, the Democrats would be blamed for it. And, you know, blah. 00:58:53.190 --> 00:59:00.190 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And look, people's short fucking memories right now? 00:59:00.570 --> 00:59:04.190 Yeah, like all the shutdowns, the other ones that were impending with Biden, 00:59:04.290 --> 00:59:07.910 did they blame the fucking Republicans? Did they lose anything? 00:59:08.470 --> 00:59:15.290 Fuck this shit. Stupid thinking. It's just stupid thinking. I'm sorry, 00:59:15.450 --> 00:59:17.130 but he completely fucked up. 00:59:17.330 --> 00:59:19.590 He needs to retire. He needs to go home. 00:59:19.910 --> 00:59:28.750 Yes, he does. I mean, I think it's been past Schumer's time for a long time now. 00:59:29.090 --> 00:59:30.510 Yeah, but this is like... 00:59:30.510 --> 00:59:34.770 This is not an ageism thing per se. It's a... 00:59:34.770 --> 00:59:36.050 It's an ideas thing. 00:59:36.470 --> 00:59:37.850 It's an ideas thing. 00:59:38.010 --> 00:59:39.250 And these ideas are wrong. 00:59:39.530 --> 00:59:41.270 It's a meeting the moment thing. 00:59:41.860 --> 00:59:49.540 It's like these folks who've been around for a long time are not showing that 00:59:49.540 --> 00:59:55.600 they have what it takes to react to the new reality of what Republicans are now. 00:59:56.080 --> 01:00:00.980 There's all these people that are longing for the days when you had sort of 01:00:00.980 --> 01:00:03.680 everybody was, you know, 01:00:04.140 --> 01:00:08.400 back to the Reagan days where Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan would go for a drink 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.160 after work or whatever and, like, be friends. 01:00:11.860 --> 01:00:16.180 you know, and, and, and even after disagreeing all day and then where that was 01:00:16.180 --> 01:00:19.420 common and Biden wanted to go back to those days too. And I think a lot. 01:00:19.640 --> 01:00:21.900 Well, you know what? Those days are long gone. 01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:24.340 It's like acknowledge reality. 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.800 We acknowledge are fucking long gone. They ain't coming back. 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.820 They're gone. They may come back. They may come back at some point, 01:00:32.940 --> 01:00:34.260 but it's not anytime soon. 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:39.520 It's not anytime soon. And you can't like, I was upset about the, the whole, 01:00:39.640 --> 01:00:42.480 like, it's not officially a state of the union because it's the first year of 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:47.200 a presidency it's an address to congress whatever but like at that speech i 01:00:47.200 --> 01:00:53.900 was also upset by the the democrats who were like yo i mean the one that 10. 01:00:53.900 --> 01:01:00.880 Fucking democrats have voted to censure what's this fuck uh the democratic guy that was protesting. 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:06.640 With his fucking reason he the the people who stayed away and that guy who made 01:01:06.640 --> 01:01:08.540 a point of demonstrating and 01:01:08.540 --> 01:01:11.660 being kicked out of the thing. Those are the ones who did the right thing. 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:12.260 Right! 01:01:12.580 --> 01:01:14.760 The ones who... 01:01:15.110 --> 01:01:20.350 sat there politely, fuck them. Even the ones with the stupid little signs. 01:01:20.570 --> 01:01:22.830 Okay, that's better than nothing, but it's kind of late. 01:01:24.470 --> 01:01:30.070 I was saying before the speech, they should have either not shown up at all, 01:01:30.110 --> 01:01:34.470 or they should have shown up and then had an orchestrated thing where every 01:01:34.470 --> 01:01:39.810 30 seconds someone got up and left and made some sort of protest statement as they walked in. 01:01:39.810 --> 01:01:40.010 Right. 01:01:40.350 --> 01:01:45.590 You know, this is not the time for, okay, we're going to sit there and be polite 01:01:45.590 --> 01:01:47.710 and pretend this is like, okay. 01:01:48.470 --> 01:01:54.570 No, those days are long gone. And there's a significant portion of Congress 01:01:54.570 --> 01:01:56.870 who's just not willing to go there yet. 01:01:57.050 --> 01:02:02.910 And it's like this sort of like, let's try to find places where we can be bipartisan. 01:02:02.910 --> 01:02:08.330 And, oh, let's treat them like as if this was happening in good faith. 01:02:08.530 --> 01:02:11.190 No, there is no good faith on the other side anymore. 01:02:11.370 --> 01:02:11.510 No, there is no good faith. 01:02:12.010 --> 01:02:18.410 You know? And so pretending that, and like, look, the, and this goes along with 01:02:18.410 --> 01:02:25.950 the whole thing of like, this, this also this, you know, what's the right way to react to losing? 01:02:26.270 --> 01:02:33.130 Okay. So first of all, people, the reaction is, oh, my God, the Democrats got 01:02:33.130 --> 01:02:37.730 crushed because we have a winner-take-all system and lost the House, 01:02:37.970 --> 01:02:39.590 lost the Senate, lost the presidency. 01:02:39.870 --> 01:02:44.330 But all three were goddamn close, Senate less so than the others. 01:02:44.510 --> 01:02:46.490 But all three were close in the end. 01:02:46.750 --> 01:02:51.390 But it's because things are amplified by the Electoral College, 01:02:51.390 --> 01:02:54.610 by all of these other factors, and it's winner-take-all. 01:02:54.770 --> 01:03:00.090 It was like, we got crushed. No, you just barely lost. If you'd done a little bit better, 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.640 And you would, would have been okay. So like, but there's people reacting. 01:03:04.640 --> 01:03:07.500 It was like, oh, we have to change absolutely everything. 01:03:07.700 --> 01:03:10.960 Oh, we have to move to the center. 01:03:11.120 --> 01:03:15.580 We have to adopt Republican positions. We have to not talk about trans people. 01:03:15.700 --> 01:03:18.000 We have to do this. We have to do that. No, no, no. 01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:22.320 Retreating is not the way to win in this kind of situation. 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:29.400 It makes you, If it makes you look weak, it makes you look like you have no convictions. 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:33.420 You know, no, the thing you've got to do, and I'm not saying that the whole 01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:37.160 Democratic Party should become Bernie and AOC policy wise. 01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:41.720 That would be a mistake, too. But you have to show up for your damn conviction. 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.140 I'll tell you what, hell of a lot better than the current one. 01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:49.320 I'll fucking sign up for that. I'll sign up for that plan. Better than the current one. 01:03:49.540 --> 01:03:55.580 Yeah, no, I agree. But you don't have to go all the way to where they are position-wise, 01:03:55.620 --> 01:03:58.900 but I think you do have to go to where they are attitude-wise, 01:03:58.900 --> 01:04:05.440 where they stand up for what they believe in and are not going to just say, oh, oh, well. 01:04:05.620 --> 01:04:06.600 We're overplayed. 01:04:07.100 --> 01:04:11.180 And look, I realized, I was first one to admit and say, you know, 01:04:11.260 --> 01:04:14.620 look, you don't have the presidency, you don't have the House, 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.660 you don't have the Senate, you don't have the courts. 01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:19.880 Yeah, but you do have to use the levers that you have. 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:23.540 You do have to use the levers that you do have, and you do have to communicate 01:04:23.540 --> 01:04:31.800 clearly about it, and you can't end up looking like you're just giving up. Yes. 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:33.320 Losers. 01:04:33.680 --> 01:04:37.840 You did lose, but you don't have to look like losers. And someone pointed out, 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:43.140 even when the Republicans were in the minority, they never act like this. 01:04:43.620 --> 01:04:46.700 No. Never. Never. Never. 01:04:46.700 --> 01:04:50.040 They are always like, 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:56.600 obstructing in any possible way they can. They're being vocal about everything. 01:04:56.600 --> 01:05:02.600 They're talking about how bad the other side is. They're talking up their own plans. 01:05:02.820 --> 01:05:08.120 They're doing all kinds of stuff. You know, whereas this sort of preemptive 01:05:08.120 --> 01:05:12.840 capitulation is exactly why people are disillusioned. 01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:20.020 You know, this is, this is why like one of variety of reasons, 01:05:20.180 --> 01:05:25.640 but this is one of the reasons why, you know, people weren't all that excited about, 01:05:25.900 --> 01:05:32.760 well, certainly not about Biden and, and to some extent about a Harris to the fight. 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.540 I mean, come on, you know, and, and, and, and I, you know, the, 01:05:38.540 --> 01:05:42.880 the whole, like, again, like you have to moderate to go after the center. 01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:44.960 I know conventional wisdom is 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:48.360 all about, you always have to get the median voter, et cetera, et cetera. 01:05:48.780 --> 01:05:55.680 But the way to win these things is to differentiate yourself strongly and have 01:05:55.680 --> 01:05:59.400 actual fucking convictions about things, you know? 01:06:02.580 --> 01:06:08.780 And this is an unmitigated disaster i i agree and schumer specifically here 01:06:08.780 --> 01:06:14.880 but we've had you know and jeffries was good on this one but jeffries did fine 01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:18.960 jeffries has been weak on other things and then we had that newsome thing where 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.320 he was like talking about fans keep on newsome. 01:06:22.740 --> 01:06:26.060 I mean to me i mean to me right now newsom is dead. 01:06:26.060 --> 01:06:30.140 I mean he not only i mean the conversation i mean newsom. 01:06:30.140 --> 01:06:32.260 To me is dead period. 01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:39.300 Yeah i mean he's an idiot and look the this is the same like trying to go move 01:06:39.300 --> 01:06:43.140 to the right or whatever like the first episode of his stupid podcast was not 01:06:43.140 --> 01:06:46.780 just bring on somebody who disagreed with him it was bring on some guy who's 01:06:46.780 --> 01:06:48.640 a right-wing fanatic Trumpy. 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.540 But not just bring on some guy that's a rightful Trumpy. 01:06:51.540 --> 01:06:52.320 And then agree with him. 01:06:52.460 --> 01:06:54.740 Is be completely unprepared. 01:06:55.160 --> 01:06:55.680 Right. 01:06:56.310 --> 01:07:02.270 Not know who the fuck the guy is, what his positions is, and not refute the 01:07:02.270 --> 01:07:06.110 bastard and go like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, 01:07:07.210 --> 01:07:12.310 yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna, you know, yeah, you're right about those trans people playing sports. 01:07:13.330 --> 01:07:13.850 Right. 01:07:15.270 --> 01:07:17.570 Fucking wanted to punch him in the face. 01:07:18.490 --> 01:07:23.250 Meanwhile, like, we've talked before about how AOC seems to be communicating well. 01:07:23.950 --> 01:07:30.130 Bernie has been going on a, basically he's going into red congressional districts 01:07:30.130 --> 01:07:35.910 where the Republican Congress people are refusing to have town halls. 01:07:36.090 --> 01:07:36.570 Beautiful. 01:07:37.150 --> 01:07:38.890 And he's like, I'll do town halls. 01:07:39.130 --> 01:07:39.790 Fuck yeah. 01:07:40.190 --> 01:07:45.690 And, and so he, and, and, and also just to be clear, these are red districts, 01:07:45.910 --> 01:07:47.550 but often purplish red districts. 01:07:47.730 --> 01:07:52.170 Although he has, he's done some in deep red districts too, but like the whole 01:07:52.170 --> 01:07:55.870 point. And you're doing that outreach. You're going into enemy territory. 01:07:56.110 --> 01:08:02.270 You're giving your story and he's getting huge crowds. He's filling like venues with 10,000 people. 01:08:02.670 --> 01:08:06.690 It's not even a goddamn election year. He's not running for everything, anything. 01:08:06.870 --> 01:08:11.650 He's old. He's not going to run for president again, you know, but he's popular. 01:08:11.950 --> 01:08:13.430 He's got balls! Still! 01:08:13.890 --> 01:08:17.950 Yeah. And like, look, I've never been a fan of Bernie. 01:08:18.790 --> 01:08:20.650 But- But I am right now. 01:08:21.610 --> 01:08:28.830 Exactly. He's like showing balls. Okay, sure. Good word. 01:08:29.650 --> 01:08:33.610 And, and, you know, Walls is talking the same way. He's now going on. 01:08:33.790 --> 01:08:37.690 And so is AOC, too, by the way. Going out there fucking like, 01:08:37.950 --> 01:08:42.350 you know, carrying water for everybody, showing more balls than all these other fuckers combined. 01:08:43.410 --> 01:08:49.250 Yeah. And not being afraid to have these conversations. 01:08:49.590 --> 01:08:53.110 And I know she's getting fucking daily death threats and shit like that. 01:08:53.390 --> 01:08:55.890 Oh, of course she is. Of course she is. 01:08:56.030 --> 01:08:59.590 And she's just going out there, not caring one bit about it. 01:08:59.950 --> 01:09:04.030 So, you know, doing what if you remember, like right after the election, 01:09:04.230 --> 01:09:08.750 there was a thing where somebody put out an exit poll or something that identified 01:09:08.750 --> 01:09:13.090 there was actually a large number of people who voted for both AOC and Trump. 01:09:13.410 --> 01:09:14.650 Oh, yeah, I remember that. 01:09:14.850 --> 01:09:19.130 And so she had a live stream where she was like, hey, if you're one of these 01:09:19.130 --> 01:09:21.990 people, I want to talk to you. I want to understand. 01:09:22.390 --> 01:09:25.150 What the fuck? I want to fucking understand. What the hell? 01:09:25.390 --> 01:09:28.730 But the point is she was doing that reach out and she was talking to people 01:09:28.730 --> 01:09:33.310 and she was engaging with those kinds of voters. And all of. 01:09:33.430 --> 01:09:34.070 I know. I know. 01:09:34.390 --> 01:09:39.010 And, you know, Walls, AOC, Bernie are doing that. 01:09:39.530 --> 01:09:44.290 They are going out. They are talking to Republicans. They are talking to Trump 01:09:44.290 --> 01:09:50.830 voters, but they're not doing so in a manner of, oh, and we're going to give 01:09:50.830 --> 01:09:54.010 up our principles in order to try to convince you to come over. 01:09:54.150 --> 01:10:01.350 No, they're sticking by what they believe in, but they're engaging and engaging directly. 01:10:01.730 --> 01:10:05.750 And they are approaching this correctly. 01:10:06.210 --> 01:10:08.290 All of these other folks. This is a reality. 01:10:08.530 --> 01:10:12.210 They don't need to compromise on anything because the fucking reality goes back 01:10:12.210 --> 01:10:15.630 to what I said in the butt first. 01:10:15.750 --> 01:10:20.750 And it goes back to what people are seeing right now. 01:10:20.890 --> 01:10:26.310 These people right now are a lot of people, a lot of people, 01:10:26.510 --> 01:10:29.550 like a high percentage of fucking people that vote. 01:10:29.770 --> 01:10:34.230 A large number of the kind of swing people do you expect that voted for Trump 01:10:34.230 --> 01:10:37.310 right now are in serious buyer's remorse. 01:10:37.710 --> 01:10:40.810 big time and what you have to do right now 01:10:40.810 --> 01:10:44.810 is capitalize on that properly okay and 01:10:44.810 --> 01:10:47.610 yeah if bernie and aoc are going out 01:10:47.610 --> 01:10:50.290 there and offering you know i tell you 01:10:50.290 --> 01:10:53.110 guys this is what it 01:10:53.110 --> 01:10:56.350 is and you give that strong message you know 01:10:56.350 --> 01:11:00.850 about how we really offered you an alternative and you need to fucking like 01:11:00.850 --> 01:11:05.270 make sure that the next in the next midterms you vote these fuckers out okay 01:11:05.270 --> 01:11:10.950 Because we offered you the right way We told you this was going to be And it's 01:11:10.950 --> 01:11:14.850 exactly Happening right now the way we told you You need to vote him the fuck out Period. 01:11:15.910 --> 01:11:22.310 Yeah. And you don't have to rub their face in it, but you have to make sure 01:11:22.310 --> 01:11:23.750 you're giving that message anyway. 01:11:23.890 --> 01:11:26.170 But many of them are already upset. 01:11:26.870 --> 01:11:31.430 Yeah. I mean, and like we said, it's, you know, it's never going to be like 01:11:31.430 --> 01:11:37.350 90% of Trump voters are like, oh crap, I should have voted for Kamala. But you don't need that. 01:11:37.610 --> 01:11:39.090 You don't need 90%. 01:11:39.090 --> 01:11:44.070 It was the freaking closest election, popular vote wise, in a long time. 01:11:44.350 --> 01:11:44.770 Right. 01:11:45.110 --> 01:11:51.150 You know, this was a close election. You only needed, I think somebody estimated 01:11:51.150 --> 01:11:56.770 like in the critical key states, you needed to change the mind of like one in 50 people. 01:11:57.270 --> 01:11:59.690 That's all. Maybe even less. 01:12:00.390 --> 01:12:06.950 But the one thing, like I said, you know, you only needed to change that few people. 01:12:07.070 --> 01:12:13.630 And the reality is that what you needed to do is battle the reality they see. 01:12:13.630 --> 01:12:16.110 Or and also not the one. 01:12:16.110 --> 01:12:16.770 That you see. 01:12:16.770 --> 01:12:20.110 Yes yes you have to you have to recognize what 01:12:20.110 --> 01:12:24.270 people are seeing what people's experiences are and where they're coming from 01:12:24.270 --> 01:12:29.390 as low information people and and also the other thing like we kept kept pointing 01:12:29.390 --> 01:12:33.530 out like the effect diminished as additional votes came in but it was still 01:12:33.530 --> 01:12:38.350 an issue of like a lot of people who voted for joe biden just stayed home. 01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:39.190 Yeah. 01:12:39.450 --> 01:12:45.410 So how do you motivate those people? You don't motivate them by capitulating on everything. 01:12:46.790 --> 01:12:48.950 That's definitely not one way to do it. 01:12:49.090 --> 01:12:53.670 You know, again, if you want to excite those people and get them out, 01:12:53.830 --> 01:12:58.390 you have to give them a reason to want what you're providing. 01:12:58.970 --> 01:13:00.250 Get them fucking excited. 01:13:00.290 --> 01:13:00.710 Damn it. 01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:05.150 Make them excited. And some of that is personalities and like, 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.440 AOC's got the personality. I think Tim Walls does, too. 01:13:10.140 --> 01:13:15.180 The second half of the campaign, I keep mentioning that there was a big turnaround in September. 01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.400 Part of that turnaround is they muzzled Walls. 01:13:18.580 --> 01:13:19.080 Well, yeah. 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:24.320 The first half, he was out there, he was excited, he was happy, blah, blah, blah. 01:13:24.540 --> 01:13:28.160 The second half, he screwed up in a debate, he didn't do that great in a debate, 01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:32.560 and then they were like, okay, you just stay quiet for the rest of the time. That was a mistake. 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.260 But I think Walls has the personality. 01:13:38.020 --> 01:13:41.960 AOC definitely has the personality. I don't get Sanders, but a lot of people 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.660 really love him, so he obviously has some appeal as well. 01:13:45.540 --> 01:13:49.060 Find those people. Not like Newsom. 01:13:49.980 --> 01:13:51.620 Oh, God, fuck Newsom. 01:13:51.780 --> 01:13:59.400 Not Jeffreys, not Schumer. Fuck Newsom. Get these people off the stage. Oh, my God. 01:13:59.580 --> 01:14:00.080 Good Lord. 01:14:00.700 --> 01:14:05.120 And frankly, I would not mind seeing Harris again. 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:09.380 She just, but she's been in quiet mode and she's thinking about running for 01:14:09.380 --> 01:14:11.120 governor in California and blah, blah, blah. 01:14:11.360 --> 01:14:16.340 But you need to like have the original Harris, not they, they, 01:14:16.340 --> 01:14:20.360 they bottled everything up in the second half of the campaign and they fucked everything up. 01:14:20.910 --> 01:14:31.050 whatever okay shall we take a break yvonne then one more thing okay so i will this time oh, 01:14:32.930 --> 01:14:40.570 fine i i i will play the last thing yvonne sent to continue no not yvonne the 01:14:40.570 --> 01:14:44.010 last thing alex said i get you two confused all the time you look the same you 01:14:44.010 --> 01:14:46.790 sound the same yeah you definitely sound. 01:14:46.790 --> 01:14:49.270 The same i'm sure he talks about as much as i do. 01:14:49.270 --> 01:14:53.250 Yes so eddie and you swear about the same you know oh. 01:14:53.250 --> 01:14:54.850 Yes he loves the swearing. 01:14:54.850 --> 01:14:59.570 Anyway i'll play the last one he sent me it was it was only one more right yeah 01:14:59.570 --> 01:15:04.090 here we go this is the last one and that'll be the break here we go. 01:15:04.090 --> 01:15:09.430 Ivan you ever just be watching nova thinking it's going to be a nice relaxing 01:15:09.430 --> 01:15:13.510 time and then suddenly you're investigating coordinate inconsistencies like 01:15:13.510 --> 01:15:15.190 you work for some geological survey? 01:15:15.510 --> 01:15:20.030 Sam. I wasn't planning on it. But then Nova decided to throw up two sets of 01:15:20.030 --> 01:15:21.410 latitude and longitude. 01:15:21.730 --> 01:15:25.930 One with a full 12 digits. The other with only six. And immediately, 01:15:26.170 --> 01:15:27.810 my brain went, wait a second. 01:15:28.070 --> 01:15:31.470 Ivan, of course it did. Sam, because that doesn't make sense. 01:15:31.650 --> 01:15:34.810 If you're going to show precise coordinates, you do it consistently. 01:15:35.050 --> 01:15:38.410 So now I'm pausing, rewinding, double-checking. 01:15:38.670 --> 01:15:42.150 One of them is hyper-precise. Like you could find a single rock precise. 01:15:42.490 --> 01:15:45.830 The other? It's vague. Like it could be anywhere in a square kilometer. 01:15:46.170 --> 01:15:49.450 Ivan. Did you consider just watching the episode? 01:15:49.750 --> 01:15:53.330 Sam? No. Because by then, I had Google Earth open. 01:15:53.530 --> 01:15:58.450 I was checking known dig sites. And I was deep in Wikipedia articles about fossil locations. 01:15:58.750 --> 01:16:02.490 And guess what? The numbers don't match anything I could find. Ivan. 01:16:02.830 --> 01:16:07.130 So you're going to email Nova, aren't you? Sam. I'm thinking about it. 01:16:07.370 --> 01:16:11.270 Just a polite, hey, what's up with these coordinates, because either they made 01:16:11.270 --> 01:16:15.930 a mistake, or they're hiding a secret dig site from the public, and I need to know which. 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:20.120 There you go. Anyway. Ah. 01:16:21.060 --> 01:16:24.880 Yes. Okay. So now it's my turn. 01:16:25.540 --> 01:16:30.020 It's your turn to see what you can say. 01:16:30.480 --> 01:16:35.360 So I was going to pick what we did last segment if you hadn't. But you did pick it. 01:16:35.900 --> 01:16:42.200 So I think the other thing we need to cover that's, you know, 01:16:42.360 --> 01:16:48.660 also politics and Trump related and stuff is, how's the stock market and economy doing, Yvonne? 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:53.020 Did they like all the tariffs and uncertainty and back and forth? 01:16:53.220 --> 01:16:55.880 How's that going? It's going through the roof, right? 01:16:56.120 --> 01:17:00.280 It's going through the roof, depending on which way your roof is. 01:17:01.020 --> 01:17:02.180 Ah, right, right. 01:17:02.360 --> 01:17:02.680 Okay. 01:17:03.180 --> 01:17:06.340 Well, the roof of your upside down underwater car. 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.440 Right. If you have like your upside down tree. 01:17:11.180 --> 01:17:12.700 Yes, my upside down Christmas tree. 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.660 Christmas tree then yeah it it would be 01:17:15.660 --> 01:17:19.240 heading if it's heading towards the roof there then you 01:17:19.240 --> 01:17:26.220 know that that that it's that you know it's right there was today somebody posted 01:17:26.220 --> 01:17:34.460 the stock market report card showing the performance of i guess the last 12 01:17:34.460 --> 01:17:38.340 presidencies so it wasn't just president, 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:40.520 but like the four-year term. 01:17:40.940 --> 01:17:48.660 Yeah, yeah. The last 12, okay, presidential terms and how their stock market performance. 01:17:48.740 --> 01:17:51.200 Starting from elections, though, not inauguration day. 01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:57.060 Election, not inauguration, yes. And I think it's important to election because 01:17:57.060 --> 01:18:02.400 the election day, depending on who wins, does create a stock market inflection. 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.860 Yeah, people start reacting to it, you know, one way or the other. 01:18:06.860 --> 01:18:09.020 Right and often but by. 01:18:09.020 --> 01:18:15.740 The way often from that i've seen that it's up no matter who wins because you've 01:18:15.740 --> 01:18:17.540 just eliminated uncertainty. 01:18:17.540 --> 01:18:24.780 Yeah and so that that is something so like right now and i'm looking at this 01:18:24.780 --> 01:18:28.200 at why is this chart right now i'm looking at only, 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:33.700 it's i'm looking at the eight week chart right now again instead of like the 01:18:33.700 --> 01:18:36.080 16 week chart but Bottom line is that. 01:18:36.080 --> 01:18:38.680 You know, every time I've looked at that, I've only looked at that site on my 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:42.640 phone, not on my desktop, but there's just weirdness about it. 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:47.700 I don't know if I trust. But bottom line, but the data, I checked it. You checked it? 01:18:47.780 --> 01:18:47.980 Okay. 01:18:48.220 --> 01:18:50.600 It does track. It. 01:18:51.460 --> 01:19:01.380 Right now, Trump had the second worst ever stock market performance to date 01:19:01.380 --> 01:19:05.560 of any of those presidential terms. 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.840 The only one that was worse was Bush Jr. 01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:13.480 in the face of the dot-com crash. 01:19:13.480 --> 01:19:23.240 Now, just for our listeners, if you want to check this out, it's at stockmarket-reportcard.lot23.com. 01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:24.160 Yes. 01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:28.060 So, you can check out these graphs and, yeah. 01:19:28.360 --> 01:19:32.580 Yeah. And so, right now, it keeps showing me the stupid eight-week chart, 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.540 but I know that when I was looking at it earlier, it was doing the 16-week chart. 01:19:36.580 --> 01:19:42.780 Yeah, I don't get it. I saw 19-week. So, like, eight weeks would line up with Inauguration Day. 01:19:42.780 --> 01:19:45.940 Right almost i think we're at seven. 01:19:45.940 --> 01:19:50.580 So i forget but like then i saw another view that was like 19 weeks which is 01:19:50.580 --> 01:19:53.600 more like election i don't know what's up with this site it's confusing. 01:19:53.600 --> 01:20:01.160 It's a little bit confusing but but bottom line is that trump is is is heading 01:20:01.160 --> 01:20:07.580 one of the worst ever stock market performances by any new president and this 01:20:07.580 --> 01:20:12.060 was when he was handed a strong economy and a strong market, you know. 01:20:12.160 --> 01:20:15.620 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Yvonne, Yvonne, I have heard repeatedly 01:20:15.620 --> 01:20:18.220 from administration spokespeople over the last few days. 01:20:18.220 --> 01:20:22.320 It's a disaster, right? What did he say? The Biden disaster. 01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:29.480 Yes, this was a Biden disaster. He handed over an economy in tatters and that 01:20:29.480 --> 01:20:31.360 this is all Biden's fault. 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:35.360 And, you know, don't worry, Trump will fix it. 01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:41.940 Now, the administration has also said, hey, we're trying to make some big changes 01:20:41.940 --> 01:20:44.540 here. Of course, there'll be pain on the way. 01:20:45.660 --> 01:20:50.340 I, you know, okay, sure. Yeah, whatever. 01:20:51.200 --> 01:20:58.200 This is the, there are explanations or no, okay, nobody in the stock market 01:20:58.200 --> 01:20:59.420 is buying their explanations. 01:20:59.860 --> 01:21:03.080 Okay. All right. This has all been self-inflicted. 01:21:04.460 --> 01:21:14.440 You know, they are going around and, you know, they keep doing all of this trade wars, 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:21.980 changes on policy, all these cuts in government, terminations, 01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:25.400 you know, firings, they're cutting contracts, they're cutting whatever. 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.480 And they're trying to do things, like, suddenly overnight as well. 01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:34.620 Like, even if you believe government needs to, like, be smaller than it is, 01:21:34.740 --> 01:21:42.020 like, if you wanted to be responsible about it, you would do it over some extended period of time. 01:21:42.040 --> 01:21:45.020 Because guess what? The government is a significant portion of the economy. 01:21:45.320 --> 01:21:48.940 And that's the thing. That's the big thing. 01:21:49.120 --> 01:21:54.060 Because, and it's not like, it's not like you are, they said, 01:21:54.160 --> 01:21:59.880 well, it's to cut the deficit. But here's the rub, okay? They're looking at 01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:01.960 cutting taxes at the same time. 01:22:02.160 --> 01:22:02.260 Yeah. 01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.900 So therefore, you're going to keep the deficit at the same. 01:22:06.200 --> 01:22:10.440 There isn't any way that you're going to be able or up. 01:22:10.580 --> 01:22:15.920 There isn't any way that you're really bringing down the deficit in any meaningful way. 01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:22.600 So look, the markets have been every day. 01:22:23.180 --> 01:22:29.020 the president says something that is just bad for business. 01:22:29.540 --> 01:22:36.660 I mean, there's no other way of putting it. It's just every day it's shit that's bad for business. 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:42.980 And there is, you know, the other day he was ripping business people because 01:22:42.980 --> 01:22:47.680 one of the things when you are, you're a multinational. 01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:55.460 So you're manufacturing, getting parts and things from many different countries, 01:22:56.020 --> 01:22:58.860 assembling them and selling them in different countries. 01:22:59.140 --> 01:23:03.600 And he goes to that and the business roundtable people are going to him and 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:06.260 saying, look, we need certainty and understanding. 01:23:07.440 --> 01:23:10.660 What's our, you know, how we are trading with our partners. 01:23:11.060 --> 01:23:15.040 And he just dismissed it saying, yeah, these idiots, certainty. 01:23:15.180 --> 01:23:16.440 They all just want certainty. 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:20.240 I'm like, yes, you want fucking certainty because you don't want to be, 01:23:20.660 --> 01:23:26.900 for example, like one example that I was seeing today, a restaurant or a distributor 01:23:26.900 --> 01:23:29.800 that imports wines from Europe, okay? 01:23:30.220 --> 01:23:31.920 And sells them to restaurants. 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:37.260 Those wine orders are placed a long time in advance. 01:23:37.440 --> 01:23:42.460 OK, and so all of a sudden you ordered two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 01:23:42.460 --> 01:23:46.180 worth of wine that you pay for up front, 01:23:46.660 --> 01:23:52.040 by the way, six months in advance that all of a sudden you're going to have 01:23:52.040 --> 01:23:55.480 to pay if you're going to take delivery to take delivery of this shit. 01:23:55.480 --> 01:23:59.580 You have to pay a tariff of $500,000. 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:06.040 Okay? That's going to bankrupt people. Literally, there will be people that 01:24:06.040 --> 01:24:11.400 will have to walk away from shipments and just say, we don't have the money to take the shipment. 01:24:12.500 --> 01:24:16.520 We can't do it. We can't clear the shipment. Leave it at customs. 01:24:17.040 --> 01:24:18.340 We're not going to be able to clear it. 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:19.100 Right. 01:24:19.260 --> 01:24:23.300 And so, I don't understand. You know, and he thinks this is a joke. 01:24:23.980 --> 01:24:27.920 he doesn't get it because he doesn't do business like this fucking hotels and 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:32.800 real estate you know it's not manufacturing building assembling and selling 01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:36.720 stuff you don't do any of that shit so you don't get it you. 01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:38.360 Should be using the california wine anyway. 01:24:38.360 --> 01:24:46.260 Right yeah i mean that that solves the problem i i mean but i well you know 01:24:46.260 --> 01:24:52.060 but but but but then on another thing Speaking of that thing about the California example, 01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.260 it's like this whole thing about, oh, yeah, we're bringing manufacturing back. 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.600 Listen, nobody is bringing manufacturing. 01:24:59.630 --> 01:25:06.710 all the textile and furniture manufacturing that was lost in the last 30 years back to America. 01:25:07.210 --> 01:25:10.290 Well, here's not happening. Well, but here's the whole thing. 01:25:10.530 --> 01:25:16.550 The scenario where you could make that happen, like let's say you make the tariffs 01:25:16.550 --> 01:25:22.550 like 500% or hell, you make it illegal to import, period. Just make it illegal to import. 01:25:24.270 --> 01:25:28.910 Then eventually maybe you do get some domestic production. But here's the thing. 01:25:28.910 --> 01:25:31.090 You have a great cost it's. 01:25:31.090 --> 01:25:34.670 At a huge cost and you have to sustain that 01:25:34.670 --> 01:25:41.390 ban or those tariffs for an extended enough period of time that people actually 01:25:41.390 --> 01:25:47.090 do believe they're permanent and that it's worth doing the investment to do 01:25:47.090 --> 01:25:52.470 the domestic production and that it's worth the increased cost it's going to be i. 01:25:52.470 --> 01:25:55.190 Mean the reason these things here but here's a problem with 01:25:55.190 --> 01:25:58.530 this shit sam yeah look i've seen this done look 01:25:58.530 --> 01:26:02.550 i'll give the best example that i remember brazil brazil for 01:26:02.550 --> 01:26:05.590 a long time had these huge import 01:26:05.590 --> 01:26:11.950 barriers on computing okay and they had these things that if you wanted to to 01:26:11.950 --> 01:26:17.910 i mean they they basically the tariffs are so great that it forced a lot of 01:26:17.910 --> 01:26:23.330 computer companies to have to manufacture in brazil because otherwise it was 01:26:23.330 --> 01:26:25.190 It's just the tariffs, which just made it impossible. 01:26:26.470 --> 01:26:27.870 So a number of companies did. 01:26:28.090 --> 01:26:30.590 That's exactly the kind of thing Trump wants to happen, right? 01:26:30.830 --> 01:26:32.110 So a number of companies did. 01:26:32.250 --> 01:26:35.970 A number of companies did, like IBM and HP. 01:26:36.210 --> 01:26:40.590 You know, when I worked at HP, HP, and they found a joint venture partner down 01:26:40.590 --> 01:26:45.090 there called Edisa, which they did these computers, you know, 01:26:45.190 --> 01:26:46.730 and they were doing some manufacturing. 01:26:47.170 --> 01:26:53.690 But here's a reality about that. The reality is that it made it that the computers 01:26:53.690 --> 01:26:58.650 that medium-sized to large businesses were able to get, the only type they were 01:26:58.650 --> 01:27:01.990 able to get is because IBM manufactured, like, AS400s, 01:27:02.650 --> 01:27:05.150 System 36s. Those were the only ones that they could get. 01:27:05.330 --> 01:27:09.250 That meant that computing for middle to big businesses was extremely expensive 01:27:09.250 --> 01:27:13.330 in Brazil as compared to everybody else, okay? 01:27:13.470 --> 01:27:18.310 And what you could get was shit as compared to everybody else as well, 01:27:18.590 --> 01:27:21.570 okay? Because you were so closed off to the rest of the market. 01:27:21.750 --> 01:27:25.390 So you wound up causing the economy 01:27:25.390 --> 01:27:32.330 a lot of harm because you closed off yourself to the market so much. 01:27:32.330 --> 01:27:35.910 I don't know the scenario there, but let me predict one additional thing, 01:27:35.990 --> 01:27:38.010 and you can tell me if I'm right on this or not. 01:27:38.610 --> 01:27:41.210 Did it also develop a huge black market? 01:27:41.470 --> 01:27:42.910 Oh, God, yes. 01:27:43.530 --> 01:27:45.230 Of course. Duh. 01:27:45.610 --> 01:27:47.310 Of course. Duh. 01:27:47.710 --> 01:27:54.850 I mean, of course it did. But, you know, it developed the black market for certain products and things. 01:27:55.010 --> 01:27:58.290 But even that black market was problematic. You couldn't get support. 01:27:58.430 --> 01:28:00.270 You can get certain things. So why not? 01:28:00.490 --> 01:28:06.570 And you also get a premium on that. It's still expensive because now you're doing it illegally. 01:28:07.050 --> 01:28:10.450 Yes. Yes. It's a disaster. 01:28:10.910 --> 01:28:16.070 These kind of policies are a fucking disaster, especially for an economy that 01:28:16.070 --> 01:28:21.750 what is done over the last 30, 40 years is, is, you know, so yes, 01:28:21.910 --> 01:28:25.330 we did lose a lot of this low cost, you know, 01:28:26.330 --> 01:28:32.310 this lower cost manufacturing, but we converted it into, you know, 01:28:32.510 --> 01:28:36.910 quite a lot of more high value added services. Okay. 01:28:37.610 --> 01:28:41.690 I mean, this is the reason why companies like Apple and, and, 01:28:41.890 --> 01:28:46.570 you know, and others are so dominant in the world. Okay. 01:28:46.710 --> 01:28:52.370 Because we're not fucking building, you know, our economy isn't based on building, 01:28:52.370 --> 01:28:55.550 you know, certain cheap products, okay? 01:28:55.830 --> 01:29:00.770 It's on the value add, it's on the services, it's on the financial services, 01:29:01.030 --> 01:29:01.790 it's on this other stuff. 01:29:02.070 --> 01:29:07.610 You know, and like you said, you know, yeah, in order for those tariffs to work, 01:29:07.790 --> 01:29:13.430 to some extent, you would have to keep them for an extremely long period of 01:29:13.430 --> 01:29:16.590 time for some of the manufacturing to come back. 01:29:16.710 --> 01:29:20.430 And even then, it would be much more expensive. 01:29:20.810 --> 01:29:26.450 It's super expensive. The wages these people are going to get are still shit. 01:29:26.830 --> 01:29:31.750 Okay? And it's going to be ridiculously expensive on the rest of people. 01:29:31.950 --> 01:29:35.050 It's going to raise the prices of so many goods. 01:29:36.810 --> 01:29:40.710 It's just... I don't, you know... 01:29:41.310 --> 01:29:44.630 Okay, so are they intentionally trying to cause a recession? 01:29:45.130 --> 01:29:48.470 Do you think it's actually their purpose? Do you actually think they want one? 01:29:48.610 --> 01:29:53.670 Or are they really just like they have no idea and they're going to stumble into it? 01:29:53.890 --> 01:29:57.570 It feels like they I've heard people speculate. Let me just throw this out there 01:29:57.570 --> 01:29:58.650 without saying I believe it. 01:29:58.650 --> 01:30:04.290 But I've heard people speculate that they almost intentionally want to do a 01:30:04.290 --> 01:30:10.770 recession because the people they care about the most are rich enough that they 01:30:10.770 --> 01:30:12.530 can survive the recession no problem. 01:30:13.150 --> 01:30:17.650 people who are not able to survive easily. Lots of companies will go bankrupt. 01:30:17.890 --> 01:30:23.790 Lots of businesses will have trouble. But then the ones at the top who survive 01:30:23.790 --> 01:30:28.770 the recession and have enough money that they can sort of weather it will then 01:30:28.770 --> 01:30:33.310 come in and pick up all that stuff at fire sale prices and make a huge profit 01:30:33.310 --> 01:30:35.570 of it off it after the recession is over. 01:30:35.570 --> 01:30:40.590 I mean, that's plausible, okay? 01:30:40.890 --> 01:30:43.810 That's a plausible train of thought. 01:30:45.200 --> 01:30:51.460 It certainly is. But, but also the problem is it's one of these things is like 01:30:51.460 --> 01:30:53.020 letting the genie out of the bottle. 01:30:53.380 --> 01:30:59.640 You know, this is what they're playing with is the same shit that ate up the 01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:01.720 rhinos or the so-called right. 01:31:02.200 --> 01:31:03.840 The Republicans in name only. 01:31:04.040 --> 01:31:07.740 Right. Not like the animal with the horn. Not the animals. Right. 01:31:08.360 --> 01:31:11.720 Oh, no, no. We'll just, you know, we'll use the racists, you know, 01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:13.040 to be, you know, whatever. 01:31:13.040 --> 01:31:16.340 and they'll get us our votes and we'll get our taxes and we'll get our stuff 01:31:16.340 --> 01:31:19.580 and we'll blah blah blah and we can control them, we can whatever yeah yeah 01:31:19.580 --> 01:31:22.860 yeah, we can control whatever until we came out of control, it's the same fucking 01:31:22.860 --> 01:31:27.020 thing with the recession, you know, these are the kind of fucking things, okay, 01:31:28.260 --> 01:31:30.340 that, you know it's like, 01:31:31.980 --> 01:31:36.220 you're arsoning the building thinking that you can keep the arson under control, 01:31:36.420 --> 01:31:43.720 you'll be okay somehow yes, okay, and that's always a bad plan to set your own 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:44.900 fucking building on fire. 01:31:45.420 --> 01:31:47.960 I don't care if you think you got some advantage later. 01:31:48.140 --> 01:31:50.960 It's a bad plan. You're going to collect the insurance money. 01:31:51.740 --> 01:31:53.520 Not if you burn up in the damn building. 01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:54.420 Yeah. 01:31:56.180 --> 01:32:01.040 So, you know, where there are some of them that are thinking this, 01:32:01.780 --> 01:32:05.320 and actually, I do think, look, I'll tell you something. 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:12.340 I wonder who the hell's feeding him ideas about what things to talk about one day or the next. 01:32:12.340 --> 01:32:17.860 So I'll tell you something You want to talk about a way to Easily short stocks 01:32:17.860 --> 01:32:24.480 And buy stocks Based on whatever the fuck whim He's going to be having like the next day Yeah. 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.380 You think there's some insider trading going on here, Yvonne? 01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:34.420 Oh, I'm 100% sure there's insider trading going on like we've never seen it before. 01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:41.060 Yeah, absolutely. If you even have like a two-hour head start on like what the 01:32:41.060 --> 01:32:43.960 fuck Donald Trump's going to be ranting about next. 01:32:44.280 --> 01:32:44.720 Yeah. 01:32:44.940 --> 01:32:48.380 You can ride these moves up and down. 01:32:48.580 --> 01:32:51.200 Up and down. Nicely. Yeah, very nicely. Yeah. 01:32:51.700 --> 01:32:54.800 You know? Fuck. And of course, like in... 01:32:55.820 --> 01:32:58.520 in like the old world, this is one of those things where, you know, 01:32:58.660 --> 01:33:02.920 stop thinking about how things used to be. There's nobody investigating that. 01:33:03.260 --> 01:33:05.920 There's no, who's investigating? Who's investigating whom? 01:33:06.060 --> 01:33:09.220 Oh, the SEC is going to look into who's insider trading on this? 01:33:09.660 --> 01:33:10.540 Funny people. 01:33:10.940 --> 01:33:12.340 No. You know? 01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:22.280 I do love, by the way, how the Tesla and SpaceX both sent unsigned letters to 01:33:22.280 --> 01:33:26.320 the government basically pleading against the tariffs. 01:33:28.480 --> 01:33:33.700 And I'm like, unsigned letters? What? Like, what? 01:33:35.080 --> 01:33:37.380 Yeah, so Elon had nothing to do with him? 01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:41.900 For real? Nothing. Nothing. Well, he did in an interview this week, 01:33:41.940 --> 01:33:46.220 somebody asked him, so with everything you're doing with the government here, 01:33:46.440 --> 01:33:48.980 how's managing your companies going? 01:33:49.160 --> 01:33:52.460 And he's like, I don't know. It's kind of tough. 01:33:53.060 --> 01:33:56.300 He's such a fucking moron I swear to god. 01:33:56.300 --> 01:34:01.620 He basically said directly that yes he is neglecting his companies because he's 01:34:01.620 --> 01:34:03.120 concentrating on doge right now. 01:34:03.120 --> 01:34:05.440 Yeah and uh you know that's. 01:34:05.440 --> 01:34:10.420 All now some people would say that like the best thing you could possibly do 01:34:10.420 --> 01:34:13.580 for tesla and spacex is keep elon the hell out of them. 01:34:14.550 --> 01:34:20.330 Well, here, so, you know, after this week, you know, the White House became 01:34:20.330 --> 01:34:25.630 the, you know, a prominent Tesla car dealership. 01:34:25.750 --> 01:34:26.430 Yes, yes. 01:34:26.570 --> 01:34:26.930 During the week. 01:34:27.050 --> 01:34:27.570 We saw that. 01:34:27.950 --> 01:34:28.350 You know. 01:34:28.430 --> 01:34:32.930 He did a little presentation in front of the White House showing off his car. 01:34:33.030 --> 01:34:37.890 So, you know, one thing is Tesla car sales have been plummeting. 01:34:38.090 --> 01:34:42.270 Also, like, Ted Cruz did, like, a little Tesla thing, too, didn't he? 01:34:42.370 --> 01:34:42.730 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:34:42.890 --> 01:34:46.350 Now, of course, that was countered. Now, countered by Mark Kelly. 01:34:46.610 --> 01:34:52.390 Senator from Arizona, sold it. But here, so Sam, are we going to get the electric 01:34:52.390 --> 01:35:00.030 car revolution now by Tesla now being the MAGA car? 01:35:00.250 --> 01:35:02.270 Okay. Oh, that's a rabbit. 01:35:03.110 --> 01:35:06.410 Sorry. I distracted Yvonne with a rabbit on my phone. 01:35:06.410 --> 01:35:08.470 Okay, well, there's a rabbit. Okay, well, that's good. 01:35:09.270 --> 01:35:15.430 Because i because yvonne reacted verbally i will have to explain the other day 01:35:15.430 --> 01:35:18.670 we were at the mall we were passing one of these stores that has a whole bunch 01:35:18.670 --> 01:35:23.910 of like random stuff in it had this giant stuffed creepy looking rabbit and 01:35:23.910 --> 01:35:26.890 i was like oh my god that thing's disturbing, 01:35:27.490 --> 01:35:32.950 so alex took a picture of it and it's now then has now made it my phone background that's. 01:35:32.950 --> 01:35:35.490 That's lovely anyway yeah so. 01:35:35.490 --> 01:35:37.370 Go ahead sorry so. 01:35:37.370 --> 01:35:43.530 Is is is it listen i've already seen so many teslas with like maga stickers on them recently. 01:35:43.530 --> 01:35:44.470 I'm like. 01:35:44.470 --> 01:35:49.570 Okay so is this now the okay so are we going to by the way ev cars. 01:35:49.570 --> 01:35:53.990 I saw i saw someone speculating last two months yeah wait wait ev cars the. 01:35:53.990 --> 01:35:57.870 Last two months in the U S surge 26%. Okay. 01:35:58.430 --> 01:36:04.630 Even as Tesla dropped. So, but now if, if, if the Tesla is the MAGA vehicle 01:36:04.630 --> 01:36:08.290 and start, are we going to get the electric car revolution? 01:36:10.530 --> 01:36:18.310 All the liberals buying all the other brands. And now all the MAGA people buying Teslas. 01:36:18.730 --> 01:36:23.930 It could happen. I did see one. I saw one person on TikTok, I'm pretty sure 01:36:23.930 --> 01:36:28.690 it was TikTok, talking about how, look, there's a major conflict happening here. 01:36:29.010 --> 01:36:35.250 Because on the one hand, there's nothing that MAGA folks hate more than electric cars. 01:36:35.570 --> 01:36:40.310 Because they want to roll coal and stuff to stick it to the libs. 01:36:40.990 --> 01:36:47.590 But now, now their God is pumping Teslas and saying they're wonderful. 01:36:47.950 --> 01:36:52.350 So maybe now they have to buy them. and so there's a conflict. 01:36:53.610 --> 01:36:56.950 I mean, this would be the, the, the, I mean, 01:36:57.530 --> 01:37:00.650 you know, as much as I want to see Elon Musk bankrupt, 01:37:01.150 --> 01:37:06.390 the reality is that if we wind up with an electric car revolution, 01:37:06.390 --> 01:37:11.330 because the Tesla becomes the MAGA vehicle of choice, 01:37:11.650 --> 01:37:16.810 would be the weirdest thing ever, but in the end, we win. 01:37:17.210 --> 01:37:23.390 Yeah. Oh, come on. Isn't that sticking it to you as a lib? You're Elon's making money. 01:37:23.610 --> 01:37:26.610 I mean yeah but but 01:37:26.610 --> 01:37:35.070 but but we're we're killing all these gas burners hey you know i had theorized 01:37:35.070 --> 01:37:39.610 that this could be a way of doing this like i think at some point in the past 01:37:39.610 --> 01:37:44.130 i said you know this is this you know this could be the way it's. 01:37:44.130 --> 01:37:47.610 Too bad uh elon doesn't also have major investments in like, 01:37:47.870 --> 01:37:50.870 you know, solar and... Well, he does. 01:37:51.050 --> 01:37:54.190 He does? What are you talking about? What are you saying? 01:37:54.530 --> 01:37:58.990 He's got that whole solar thing that emerged into Tesla a few years ago. That's right. 01:37:59.550 --> 01:38:02.830 He sells the panels, the battery, everything. 01:38:03.170 --> 01:38:08.110 Yeah, that's right. The roof, the solar panel roof. I hadn't heard much about 01:38:08.110 --> 01:38:09.610 that lately. I heard it wasn't going well. 01:38:09.830 --> 01:38:13.410 They had issues, but they got them out there, yeah. 01:38:13.410 --> 01:38:17.370 So he needs to, he needs, Elon needs a windmill thing too. 01:38:17.530 --> 01:38:20.130 And then all of a sudden they won't kill birds anymore because, 01:38:20.290 --> 01:38:24.470 you know, or cause don't the windmills cause cancer? 01:38:24.950 --> 01:38:27.230 The windmills cause cancer and kill birds. 01:38:27.610 --> 01:38:30.170 Of course, you don't, you don't realize the windmills cause cancer. 01:38:30.310 --> 01:38:31.610 I mean, you know, the wind patterns. 01:38:32.170 --> 01:38:35.190 Well, and that's, that's the thing too. Like, you know, 01:38:36.090 --> 01:38:39.710 as somebody pointed out, I forget which of the things I was listening to, 01:38:39.790 --> 01:38:46.150 but they pointed out earlier today, I heard somebody talking about how, like, during Trump won, 01:38:46.990 --> 01:38:52.450 Elon actually pulled out of some, like, governmental advisory panel because 01:38:52.450 --> 01:38:54.950 Trump pulled out of the Paris Agreement. 01:38:55.490 --> 01:39:00.770 Because he was such an environmentalist at the time. And now we've got this. 01:39:00.770 --> 01:39:03.950 Here's the thing. I don't know if he's not an environmentalist anymore. 01:39:03.950 --> 01:39:11.970 I think he's more, as far as I can tell, his entire transformation to MAGA has 01:39:11.970 --> 01:39:16.210 been because of COVID and the trans thing. 01:39:16.850 --> 01:39:17.410 Yeah. 01:39:17.610 --> 01:39:21.370 That's it. Because his daughter basically said that he's trans. 01:39:21.990 --> 01:39:27.630 What you just said, COVID and the trans thing, explains a lot of people. 01:39:28.050 --> 01:39:29.010 Yeah, I know. 01:39:29.230 --> 01:39:32.490 Not just one. It does. But... 01:39:33.660 --> 01:39:39.740 Yeah. And, and yeah, what was a, you, you shared on the curmudgeons course slack 01:39:39.740 --> 01:39:43.860 and I had seen it elsewhere as well that his, his daughter, the trans daughter 01:39:43.860 --> 01:39:46.660 has also mentioned, uh, who, 01:39:46.900 --> 01:39:52.580 who, by the way, like if you look at their rants online about him are devastating. 01:39:52.580 --> 01:39:55.480 like oh yeah oh yeah you know she she has 01:39:55.480 --> 01:39:58.500 the goods on him in all kinds of different he is an awful i mean 01:39:58.500 --> 01:40:01.300 one of one of the latest is like he 01:40:01.300 --> 01:40:04.580 he has fathered like 15 kids now at least 01:40:04.580 --> 01:40:08.600 that we know of at least that we know of and the latest one was an influencer 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:12.740 who apparently like the way he's doing this now is he's like taking applications 01:40:12.740 --> 01:40:20.460 and like sending them sperm for in vitro fertilization He's not even going out 01:40:20.460 --> 01:40:21.760 and having sex with these women. 01:40:22.200 --> 01:40:27.800 But, like, he wants to impregnate as many people as he possibly can. 01:40:28.200 --> 01:40:34.920 And apparently, his daughter says he is having this go through selection procedures 01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:39.820 to, like, sort of filter out all the sperm that would result in female babies. 01:40:40.280 --> 01:40:43.300 Oh, yeah, that's right. Because he doesn't want girls. 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:48.040 Yeah, and there are ways to do this because it is the sperm that determines 01:40:48.040 --> 01:40:49.760 the sex of the baby, not the egg. 01:40:50.220 --> 01:40:55.500 And there are apparently ways that you can tell and do things to dramatically 01:40:55.500 --> 01:40:58.280 change your chances of getting a girl or a boy. 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:00.760 And so he's doing that because he only wants boys. 01:41:01.500 --> 01:41:02.340 Here it is. 01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:08.240 Vivian Jenna Wilson, the estranged daughter of Elon Musk, revealed her father 01:41:08.240 --> 01:41:12.680 pays extra for sex-selective IVF in order to produce male offspring, 01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:15.020 which is why he's so angry that she's trans. 01:41:16.020 --> 01:41:24.220 Yes. And yeah. Like, and I think this newest influencer was not the first one that was IVF only. 01:41:24.340 --> 01:41:29.460 Apparently he did this with like several of his subordinates at SpaceX or something. 01:41:29.460 --> 01:41:31.900 I thought he fucked the subordinates. 01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:35.440 Some of them, but some of them were IVF. 01:41:36.190 --> 01:41:42.030 You know, I love the story about the one person that said that they voted, 01:41:42.210 --> 01:41:47.390 you know, going back to my one square meter thing, who said that she voted for, 01:41:47.690 --> 01:41:53.930 the reason why she voted for Trump was because she had been looking to get IVF treatments. 01:41:54.210 --> 01:41:58.550 And in one campaign stop somewhere, Trump said that he was going to give, 01:41:58.790 --> 01:42:00.810 he's going to make IVF free. 01:42:01.110 --> 01:42:02.310 Yes, I remember that. 01:42:02.350 --> 01:42:04.870 And that's the reason why he voted for it. 01:42:04.870 --> 01:42:06.210 Just in like five minutes. Yes. 01:42:06.930 --> 01:42:11.850 And that then he realized that she's bamboo. And she had these regrets that 01:42:11.850 --> 01:42:15.490 she, that she voted for him because she's not getting her IVF and all these 01:42:15.490 --> 01:42:16.630 horrible things are happening. 01:42:16.810 --> 01:42:20.330 And it, and, and, you know, it goes back. I'm like, man, I mean, 01:42:20.870 --> 01:42:27.170 all these fucking lying, fake promises that Trump does. These people eat them up. 01:42:27.610 --> 01:42:32.650 Yeah, it works like for the low interest voter. Who's doing the one square meter 01:42:32.650 --> 01:42:33.770 with the fucking Palestinians. 01:42:33.770 --> 01:42:36.650 As he told him that he was going to, you know, he's going to fix that, 01:42:36.970 --> 01:42:39.390 you know, you know, Gaza is going to be great. 01:42:39.610 --> 01:42:46.230 And of course now apparently he's planning on a resort casino still in the style 01:42:46.230 --> 01:42:50.530 of Bif Tannen's empire in Gaza, which totally makes sense. 01:42:50.770 --> 01:42:56.790 Of course. You know, although we haven't heard much about that in a few weeks, so I don't know. 01:42:56.790 --> 01:43:01.250 Well, I, I, I, you know, yeah, well, I did hear that. 01:43:01.250 --> 01:43:06.190 As he lurches uncontrollably from one subject to another with the attention span of a gnat. 01:43:06.490 --> 01:43:10.070 Well, I mean, I don't know. This week he was saying he was ordering military 01:43:10.070 --> 01:43:13.290 options studied for Panama. We're going to bar. 01:43:13.950 --> 01:43:14.210 Yeah. 01:43:14.450 --> 01:43:15.190 And Panama. 01:43:15.770 --> 01:43:18.910 Sorry, not on Canada. I have not heard that explicitly yet. 01:43:18.930 --> 01:43:19.570 No, no. Greenland. 01:43:19.910 --> 01:43:25.550 For sure. Oh, Greenland. They're talking about doing basically the Russian playbook 01:43:25.550 --> 01:43:30.790 with Crimea of like start with the American bases that already exist there and then expand. 01:43:31.450 --> 01:43:34.570 Ah, always, you know, follow your idols. 01:43:35.670 --> 01:43:36.450 Yeah, so. 01:43:36.750 --> 01:43:40.970 And, you know, you got that. And then, I don't know, what was the other one? 01:43:41.130 --> 01:43:48.710 I mean, oh, that he's going to bar all Venezuelans, Cubans, and Haitians from 01:43:48.710 --> 01:43:49.710 coming into the country. 01:43:49.910 --> 01:43:53.570 So now it's not a Muslim travel ban. 01:43:53.750 --> 01:44:02.590 The latest list is apparently the draft list for the new Trump travel ban has 43 countries. 01:44:03.110 --> 01:44:04.790 43 countries? 01:44:05.150 --> 01:44:06.950 43 countries on the list. 01:44:07.390 --> 01:44:09.150 Jesus fucking Christ. 01:44:10.370 --> 01:44:14.250 Exactly. Let's see. Do I have a list here? This is... I'm bringing it up. 01:44:14.350 --> 01:44:16.950 This is a New York Times article from... 01:44:20.580 --> 01:44:25.880 from when? From March 14th. The Trump administration is considering targeting 01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:30.980 the citizens of as many as 43 countries as part of a new ban on travel to the 01:44:30.980 --> 01:44:32.680 United States that would be 01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:35.920 broader than the restrictions imposed during President Trump's first term. 01:44:36.200 --> 01:44:41.300 They want to do it in three different categories, red with all travel banned, 01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:44.800 orange with sharply restricted visas, and yellow, 01:44:45.120 --> 01:44:51.420 where 60, I guess they're giving the country 60 days to address concerns before 01:44:51.420 --> 01:44:52.620 deciding where they're going to be. 01:44:53.100 --> 01:44:58.220 So the red list, Afghanistan, Bhutan, Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, 01:44:58.360 --> 01:45:01.160 Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen. 01:45:01.360 --> 01:45:02.920 Yeah, it just pulled up the article. 01:45:03.120 --> 01:45:08.440 The orange list, Belarus, Eritrea, Haiti, Laos, Myanmar, Pakistan, 01:45:08.740 --> 01:45:10.920 Russia, Sierra Leone, South Sudan. 01:45:11.120 --> 01:45:14.300 Oh, so the Russians don't get like open visas? 01:45:14.580 --> 01:45:19.940 Apparently not. And then the list that I guess they're still deciding what to do with, 01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:26.420 Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, Cameroon, 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:31.040 Cape Verde, Chad, the Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo, 01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:36.740 Dominica, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Liberia, Malawi, 01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:38.840 Mali, Mardania. 01:45:38.940 --> 01:45:39.600 St. 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:44.340 Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, Sao Tome and Principe, Vanuatu, and Zimbabwe. 01:45:45.320 --> 01:45:51.220 Okay. But listen, hey, the Cubans and the Venezuelans are going to be thrilled. 01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:56.400 Well, some of these already have significant restrictions, just to be clear. 01:45:58.940 --> 01:46:04.920 No, but, well, listen, a ban on Cuban and Venezuelans is not something that 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:08.100 exists. I mean, if you're in, you know, you're in any other. 01:46:08.140 --> 01:46:09.720 I said some of these, not all of them. 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:12.620 Yeah. The reason why I mentioned that is, look, 01:46:13.300 --> 01:46:21.280 the Cuban community really turned strongly, you know, 01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:28.920 anti-Democrat when the whole Elian thing happened in the 90s with Clinton. Okay. 01:46:29.440 --> 01:46:30.540 Where Clinton sent him back. 01:46:30.860 --> 01:46:36.680 Yeah. Where Clinton sent him back. I think people underestimate how that episode 01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:41.620 really hardened Cuban attitudes against Democrats. 01:46:43.030 --> 01:46:50.750 Venezuela was sold this bill of goods like the IVF lady about how they're anti-communist or whatever. 01:46:51.050 --> 01:46:55.230 But now he's throwing them, he's throwing them all the ones with temporary protection 01:46:55.230 --> 01:47:01.070 status out and basically wants to bar anybody with a Venezuelan passport doesn't have that. 01:47:01.210 --> 01:47:04.830 Basically, what's a bar? Anybody with a Venezuelan passport to come into the United States, period. 01:47:05.150 --> 01:47:11.770 All travel banned, which is quite a lot of people. A lot of the friends and 01:47:11.770 --> 01:47:17.430 family of these people that voted for him, that he promised this down in South Florida. 01:47:17.670 --> 01:47:24.730 And I'll tell you that this kind of thing is kind of like that kind of moment in reverse. 01:47:25.090 --> 01:47:30.210 They're really. And this is Steve Miller, who is just driving this, 01:47:30.290 --> 01:47:37.130 who is just a rabid, you know, out of control racist drafting this list. 01:47:37.390 --> 01:47:38.110 Mm hmm. 01:47:38.810 --> 01:47:42.150 And and Trump likes him because he is a rabbit out of control racist. 01:47:42.730 --> 01:47:43.110 Of course. 01:47:44.270 --> 01:47:49.750 And, you know, he he was I mean, if I remember I mean, this Steve Miller's from 01:47:49.750 --> 01:47:53.250 down here, too, and he has a thing against Latinos. 01:47:54.590 --> 01:48:02.270 So, um, this has the potential to backfire spectacularly very quickly on them. 01:48:02.690 --> 01:48:11.090 A lot of these things, I think it's all, listen, Trump's, Trump's approval already is underwater already. 01:48:11.270 --> 01:48:14.010 That's gotta be a fucking record. Okay. 01:48:14.690 --> 01:48:19.430 I mean, you know, his honeymoon is already over. It didn't last like two months. 01:48:19.430 --> 01:48:22.190 Which by the way 538 used to have 01:48:22.190 --> 01:48:25.090 a way you could compare the approval ratings for all the presidents going back 01:48:25.090 --> 01:48:31.410 to truman but 538 is gone now they got completely torpedoed abc canned the whole 01:48:31.410 --> 01:48:37.130 part of their company that was 538 fired all the people so maybe somebody else 01:48:37.130 --> 01:48:42.210 will make that those graphs those comparison graphs eventually but we don't have them now no. 01:48:42.210 --> 01:48:48.170 No yeah so but yeah But, you know, maybe a website called election graphs. 01:48:48.970 --> 01:48:53.610 You know, I actually had the thought like a little while ago, 01:48:53.610 --> 01:48:56.090 maybe I could collect that data and do some stuff on it. 01:48:56.210 --> 01:48:59.250 And then I was like, I don't have time for that shit. 01:49:01.750 --> 01:49:07.530 Yeah, that could be a problem. You know, there is clearly a need. 01:49:07.730 --> 01:49:13.790 I mean, they completely wiped any trace of the presence of 538.com from the Internet. 01:49:14.490 --> 01:49:17.370 I was like i was like i hope somebody archived that crap 01:49:17.370 --> 01:49:22.330 like you know archive.org or somebody i'm sure has some snapshots but like their 01:49:22.330 --> 01:49:27.930 database like you know like that they they they had just a database and all 01:49:27.930 --> 01:49:31.810 kinds of ways to access it that you could get like all kinds of poll information 01:49:31.810 --> 01:49:36.830 going back a long time was there that you could access you know one of. 01:49:36.830 --> 01:49:41.170 The things i'm wondering the staff that got let go one thing i i'm wondering 01:49:41.170 --> 01:49:45.330 if any of them were allowed to take that information because one thing that I, 01:49:46.030 --> 01:49:51.870 For example, I listened to this podcast, and I like a Levitard show that used 01:49:51.870 --> 01:49:55.530 to be an ABC property, a Disney property. 01:49:56.330 --> 01:50:04.490 And when they negotiated the exit, they were able to keep all their archives. 01:50:05.810 --> 01:50:09.890 They did allow them to do so. So I'm wondering if some of the staff on their 01:50:09.890 --> 01:50:12.610 exit, they're saying, hey, you know what? We may want to launch. 01:50:12.750 --> 01:50:15.430 Listen, you're not interested in this shit. We're going to launch a site. 01:50:15.430 --> 01:50:18.990 Can we back up all this information and take it so we can, if we want to go 01:50:18.990 --> 01:50:20.070 do something else somewhere. 01:50:20.310 --> 01:50:26.170 And I'm, I'm, I'm guessing like there are people out on the internet who have 01:50:26.170 --> 01:50:32.230 backed up their database, the, anything that they had public anyway, but we'll see. 01:50:32.410 --> 01:50:35.190 Like, I'm sure those people will turn up again before too long. 01:50:35.570 --> 01:50:39.930 Nate Silver has his own thing he's doing there. There are all kinds of ex-538 01:50:39.930 --> 01:50:42.930 people that, like, I think G. 01:50:43.010 --> 01:50:47.750 Eliot Morris ended up working for them for a while. He had been at The Economist before. 01:50:48.030 --> 01:50:50.670 I'm sure he will land somewhere else and be doing cool stuff. 01:50:51.050 --> 01:50:54.910 You know, we will hear from this stuff again. There is a demand for it. 01:50:55.310 --> 01:50:56.090 But like I said. 01:50:56.650 --> 01:50:58.250 Whether it made sense for ABC. 01:50:59.130 --> 01:51:02.830 Yeah, no, but I'm going back to the reason why we got after this. 01:51:03.110 --> 01:51:03.810 538 tangent. 01:51:04.750 --> 01:51:10.610 But, you know, pretty damn impressive how Trump has managed to get his approval 01:51:10.610 --> 01:51:12.210 rating underwater that fast. 01:51:12.570 --> 01:51:16.630 I mean, here's the one thing. He could have cruised to a honeymoon. 01:51:18.110 --> 01:51:18.710 Yes. 01:51:19.370 --> 01:51:26.870 Listen, none of the shit that he is doing. Nobody was clamoring for this. 01:51:27.130 --> 01:51:33.150 Oh, no, no, no. Come on now. He is running the Project 2025 playbook. 01:51:33.150 --> 01:51:37.630 This was all there. The Heritage Foundation wrote the plan. 01:51:37.630 --> 01:51:41.810 They are executing the plan. No, no, no. Those people were clamoring for it. 01:51:41.910 --> 01:51:46.510 But yes, the general public was not. The general public wasn't clamoring for this shit. 01:51:46.570 --> 01:51:53.150 The general public, at least his voters, were convinced that the whole Project 2025 shit was a lie. 01:51:53.530 --> 01:51:57.150 And that he had nothing to do with that. He didn't want to do this stuff. 01:51:57.310 --> 01:52:00.790 This is all ridiculous. This is liberals lying about what's happening. 01:52:01.310 --> 01:52:04.270 And of course, Trump isn't going to do any of this stuff. I mean, 01:52:04.390 --> 01:52:07.250 they didn't even believe the stuff he said with his own mouth because of like 01:52:07.250 --> 01:52:10.650 nobody, nobody believes Trump. He's just full of hot air. 01:52:10.870 --> 01:52:11.270 Right. 01:52:11.630 --> 01:52:15.610 And they wanted him anyway. But it's not that nobody believes Trump. 01:52:15.750 --> 01:52:20.450 It's that all these people believed the things they wanted to believe and ignored the rest. 01:52:22.670 --> 01:52:24.110 So, you know. 01:52:25.190 --> 01:52:29.590 This is pretty amazing work by Donald on that part. 01:52:29.870 --> 01:52:31.010 Shall we be done? 01:52:31.570 --> 01:52:31.870 Yes. 01:52:32.810 --> 01:52:36.910 Okay. Go to curmudgeon-corner.com. You know the stuff. 01:52:37.090 --> 01:52:40.950 You'll find our transcripts. You'll find links to how to contact us. 01:52:41.490 --> 01:52:45.910 You'll find old shows. You can go back and listen to, you know, 01:52:45.930 --> 01:52:47.470 we mentioned we started in 2007. 01:52:47.750 --> 01:52:52.230 Those old shows are out there. You can listen to them. I still haven't found 01:52:52.230 --> 01:52:56.010 the tapes with the college version of the show, maybe someday, 01:52:56.010 --> 01:52:58.870 but yeah, you can find our archives. 01:52:59.010 --> 01:53:03.230 You can find our contact information. You can find a link to the YouTube channel 01:53:03.230 --> 01:53:08.430 where you can see the live streams, the unedited live streams that include video, 01:53:08.890 --> 01:53:15.350 not just our lovely voices, but also you can see the faces we're making. 01:53:15.450 --> 01:53:22.390 You can see the trash behind me in my office. you can you can see the non-trash 01:53:22.390 --> 01:53:26.630 behind yvonne in his office you know yeah all there there is yeah. 01:53:26.630 --> 01:53:31.270 There isn't yeah there definitely i do not have mountain of trash yeah. 01:53:31.270 --> 01:53:35.050 Definitely is that the new york times from the day you were born yvonne that. 01:53:35.050 --> 01:53:38.650 Is the new york times front page from the day i was born yes. 01:53:38.650 --> 01:53:46.390 You know i keep thinking like that and pretty cool stuff by the I will say, 01:53:46.550 --> 01:53:52.590 there is a picture on the bottom of that page that every time I see it in the 01:53:52.590 --> 01:53:54.550 background, because it's too small to see for real, 01:53:55.090 --> 01:53:56.910 but every time I see it, yes, yes. 01:53:57.390 --> 01:53:58.070 It's Jimmy Carter. 01:53:58.270 --> 01:54:00.090 It's Jimmy Carter, and who's the other guy? 01:54:00.510 --> 01:54:07.530 Let's see. It's David Gambrell, left arriving with Governor Jimmy Carter in Washington last night. 01:54:07.790 --> 01:54:11.230 I knew this was the New York Times from the day Yvonne was born, 01:54:11.370 --> 01:54:12.990 because he's talked about it before. 01:54:12.990 --> 01:54:19.350 But that picture in the bottom, when it's at a distance and blurry and you can't see it properly, 01:54:19.750 --> 01:54:28.230 reminds me of a picture that I have of myself and our friend Rebecca with me taking a shot. 01:54:29.290 --> 01:54:33.070 Like, me taking a jello shot, like drunk. 01:54:33.110 --> 01:54:34.390 Oh, yeah, I have that picture, yes. 01:54:34.590 --> 01:54:38.830 And that picture right there reminds me of that picture when it's blurry in 01:54:38.830 --> 01:54:42.990 the background. Now, I haven't drunk or taken jello shots in decades at this 01:54:42.990 --> 01:54:45.710 point, but like there was a period of time. 01:54:46.390 --> 01:54:50.510 We're under the bad influence of Yvonne and Rebecca and some of our other friends. 01:54:50.530 --> 01:54:52.770 Oh, my God. Yes. The bad. 01:54:53.050 --> 01:54:56.650 I would go drinking and have jello shots at parties and stuff. 01:54:56.870 --> 01:54:57.270 I know. 01:54:57.490 --> 01:54:58.810 There's a picture of me. 01:54:59.050 --> 01:55:00.150 Such awful people. Yes. 01:55:00.290 --> 01:55:02.950 There's a picture of me clearly under the influence. Yeah. 01:55:03.070 --> 01:55:06.150 We made you so miserable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God. 01:55:06.450 --> 01:55:09.250 And anyway, that picture on that newspaper reminds me of it. 01:55:09.410 --> 01:55:13.870 Every time we record the show, I'm like, did he sneak in and change that picture 01:55:13.870 --> 01:55:16.890 of that newspaper to actually be the jello shot picker. 01:55:19.070 --> 01:55:21.110 It's the newspaper from when he was born. 01:55:21.250 --> 01:55:27.810 Let me read you the headlines. Apollo cleared to make moon landing on Friday. No docking flaws found. 01:55:28.190 --> 01:55:30.270 That was one of the headlines. 01:55:30.950 --> 01:55:37.710 Another one asked, Governor asked new taxes of $1.5 billion for crisis refuses more aid to city. 01:55:38.150 --> 01:55:41.010 This is an issue with New York. New York City was insolvent. 01:55:41.170 --> 01:55:44.610 New York City was told by Governor Rockefeller today that That no new state 01:55:44.610 --> 01:55:48.310 aid was available for the coming year beyond increases already mandated. 01:55:48.770 --> 01:55:54.070 So bond issue urge state can no longer meet its own needs, Rockefeller warns. 01:55:54.510 --> 01:56:00.230 What else we got over here? U.S. officials say Allied Drive is on an area near Laos. 01:56:00.490 --> 01:56:04.050 So obviously Vietnam War raging at the same time. 01:56:04.970 --> 01:56:09.530 Nixon protects cuts in inflation and joblessness. His economic message sees 01:56:09.530 --> 01:56:13.110 3% price rises, 72 and 4.5% unemployment. 01:56:13.900 --> 01:56:16.780 By the way, those are numbers that got Biden fired. 01:56:17.180 --> 01:56:22.220 And last time we talked about this newspaper, I mentioned that I do not have 01:56:22.220 --> 01:56:24.120 the newspaper from the year I was born. 01:56:24.260 --> 01:56:30.480 However, what was in the news when I was born was the prison riots in Attica 01:56:30.480 --> 01:56:32.840 had just ended. Oh, nice. 01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:37.380 Yeah. Like, I had thought I was born while it was going on. 01:56:37.440 --> 01:56:40.900 But I looked into it and it ended right before. Here we talk about what's going 01:56:40.900 --> 01:56:44.560 on and like sometimes blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, it's a worst time ever. 01:56:44.760 --> 01:56:51.740 You've got a fucking war raging here in South Asia where we had how many troops deployed? 01:56:52.280 --> 01:56:53.560 Several hundred thousand. 01:56:54.100 --> 01:56:59.180 You know, we had a ton of troops and military deployed. We had Nixon, 01:56:59.420 --> 01:57:03.300 for God's sakes, you know, with inflation. New York City was bankrupt. 01:57:03.940 --> 01:57:09.980 Literally, New York City was bankrupt. okay but we were going to land on the 01:57:09.980 --> 01:57:14.520 fucking moon again there you go I mean we're going to land people not just not 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:18.880 a not a fucking robot that went and like fell fell on its side for the second 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:21.600 time in a row for the second time fucking idiots and. 01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:23.460 Elon blew up another spaceship. 01:57:23.460 --> 01:57:27.200 Too much and Elon blew up another rocket but we were able to launch that okay okay. 01:57:27.200 --> 01:57:32.160 Okay we were wrapping up you can also find a link to our Patreon where of course 01:57:32.160 --> 01:57:36.020 you can give us money and at various levels we'll send you a postcard We'll 01:57:36.020 --> 01:57:38.200 send you a mug. We'll talk about you on the show. 01:57:38.380 --> 01:57:42.120 We'll ring a bell, all that kind of stuff. And yes, I still owe that to Pete, 01:57:42.300 --> 01:57:45.580 Greg, and Ed. I will deal with it eventually. Sorry. Sorry, people. 01:57:46.620 --> 01:57:50.440 And yeah. And at $2 a month or more on the Patreon, or if you just ask us, 01:57:50.540 --> 01:57:51.980 we'll invite you to the Curmudgeon's Corner Slack. 01:57:52.260 --> 01:57:57.560 We're all week long. Yvonne and I and others are sharing links, 01:57:57.780 --> 01:58:00.060 chatting about the news, chatting about other things. 01:58:00.480 --> 01:58:03.820 So Yvonne, one highlight from the Slack, and then we can be done. 01:58:04.690 --> 01:58:07.710 Uh, oh boy. 01:58:08.190 --> 01:58:12.690 Uh, uh, oh, this one, this one was good. 01:58:14.130 --> 01:58:18.410 Developer sabotaged ex-employers, IT systems with kill switch. 01:58:18.830 --> 01:58:22.430 I have to stop you. And I talked about that last week. 01:58:22.810 --> 01:58:23.350 Huh? 01:58:23.650 --> 01:58:28.490 Because you posted it while we were recording. And so we talked about it. 01:58:29.330 --> 01:58:30.550 Okay. Okay. 01:58:30.950 --> 01:58:34.350 We actually, we also made fun of you that you couldn't record, 01:58:34.350 --> 01:58:37.830 but you were well enough to post on the damn Slack while we were recording. 01:58:37.830 --> 01:58:40.850 Well, I was, like, lagged. I was, like, break. 01:58:41.090 --> 01:58:45.970 I was, like, real. My cold last week was really, really, really, really bad. 01:58:46.210 --> 01:58:50.090 I understand. We were just teasing you, Yvonne. We were just teasing. 01:58:50.630 --> 01:58:56.190 Oh, okay. Well, there's a man shot by a dog in Fraser, police say. 01:58:56.190 --> 01:58:56.750 Oh, beautiful. 01:58:56.990 --> 01:59:02.370 The dog's paw got caught in the trigger, and it shot the man. How's that? 01:59:02.670 --> 01:59:05.630 That's just the dog's excuse. You know, it was on purpose. 01:59:05.770 --> 01:59:06.890 He really hated that guy. 01:59:07.190 --> 01:59:07.690 Exactly. 01:59:08.150 --> 01:59:15.070 So, yeah. So, and, oh, and, well, there was stuff on that cyber attack on X. 01:59:15.530 --> 01:59:16.410 Oh, right. 01:59:17.170 --> 01:59:19.410 Which apparently, like. It was the Ukrainians. 01:59:19.490 --> 01:59:19.590 Right? 01:59:20.030 --> 01:59:26.070 Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, apparently, well, it was a DDoS attack, 01:59:26.430 --> 01:59:29.490 a distributed denial of service attack, apparently using a whole botnet. 01:59:29.970 --> 01:59:35.450 And they all always spoof IP addresses anyway. So this is idiotic saying that 01:59:35.450 --> 01:59:37.190 there's an IP address in Ukraine. 01:59:37.350 --> 01:59:42.190 But apparently a big problem is that most websites are protected against DDoS like right now. 01:59:42.410 --> 01:59:46.090 There are a variety of services you could use, Cloudflare and others. 01:59:46.470 --> 01:59:48.190 There are ways to protect. 01:59:48.410 --> 01:59:53.350 Yeah. And apparently, obviously, as per standard operating procedure at any 01:59:53.350 --> 01:59:58.430 Elon Musk company, they had that protection misconfigured. So it allowed to 01:59:58.430 --> 02:00:01.930 be a whole bunch of service exposed, which is why the DDoS worked. 02:00:02.690 --> 02:00:03.070 Nice. 02:00:03.570 --> 02:00:04.830 So anyway. 02:00:05.190 --> 02:00:10.930 Okay. We are done. Thank you everybody for listening to us yet again on curmudgeon's corner. 02:00:11.330 --> 02:00:14.270 No, no, no. What's, what's, what's going on? 02:00:14.770 --> 02:00:16.830 Alex is asking for something again. 02:00:17.470 --> 02:00:21.790 He has made the background of my phone is no longer the rabbit. 02:00:21.930 --> 02:00:28.970 It is now a blurry upside down picture of me for some reason. Anyway, we're done. 02:00:31.110 --> 02:00:39.450 Yes. Oh, and if you actually log into the phone, the background is now a picture 02:00:39.450 --> 02:00:44.590 of a fish from the TV show Octonauts. 02:00:45.350 --> 02:00:46.030 Okay. 02:00:46.630 --> 02:00:47.510 There you go. 02:00:47.930 --> 02:00:48.930 That's helpful. 02:00:49.250 --> 02:00:52.770 Whose name I can't say. It's some long Hawaiian name. Amuamua, 02:00:52.970 --> 02:00:55.310 Puapuaku, something, something fish. 02:00:55.910 --> 02:00:56.570 Pukanakua. 02:00:56.810 --> 02:00:59.830 Something like that. Okay, we are done. Thank you, everybody, 02:00:59.850 --> 02:01:01.850 for listening to yet another Curmudgeon's Corner. 02:01:02.150 --> 02:01:08.370 Have a great week. Stay safe. And we will be back with you next week. What's this say? 02:01:08.790 --> 02:01:10.790 Unless the cricks rise or something? 02:01:12.310 --> 02:01:15.130 Having something cricks rise, something, something, something. 02:01:15.290 --> 02:01:16.250 Whatever, something. 02:01:16.610 --> 02:01:22.510 We'll be with you absent something disastrous. Okay. Have a great week. 02:01:22.690 --> 02:01:23.950 We'll see you next time. Goodbye. 02:01:24.550 --> 02:01:25.030 Bye. 02:01:55.030 --> 02:01:59.190 Thank you. Okay, that's it. I'm hitting stop. Bye, Yvonne. 02:01:59.850 --> 02:02:00.270 Bye.