WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:03.590 Okay, we're all set. Shall we just jump in? 00:00:05.030 --> 00:00:05.670 Okay. 00:00:10.770 --> 00:00:12.570 Is that about right? 00:00:13.050 --> 00:00:15.330 What about right? Wrong. 00:00:15.650 --> 00:00:18.570 I was making the noises. Okay, here we go. Let's start. 00:00:42.650 --> 00:00:45.970 Welcome welcome welcome 00:00:45.970 --> 00:00:49.330 welcome welcome yeah what 00:00:49.330 --> 00:00:52.850 welcome to curmudgeon's corner for i'm 00:00:52.850 --> 00:00:55.790 so confused well welcome to a 00:00:55.790 --> 00:01:02.690 new episode of curmudgeon's corner for saturday march 1st 2025 it is just after 00:01:02.690 --> 00:01:07.130 3 utc as we're starting to record i am sam mentor yvonne boazier hello yvonne 00:01:07.130 --> 00:01:14.030 uh hi you sound so enthused and so energetic uh, 00:01:16.650 --> 00:01:25.650 yeah that's about right yeah um i've I am also tired. I've had a long week. 00:01:26.070 --> 00:01:32.070 I had a very long week with work. Things and things didn't exactly pan out as 00:01:32.070 --> 00:01:34.370 I expected during that. That sucks. 00:01:34.890 --> 00:01:35.250 Yeah. 00:01:35.390 --> 00:01:35.570 Yeah. 00:01:36.310 --> 00:01:36.610 Yeah. 00:01:37.250 --> 00:01:45.350 Okay. Yes. You know, the steady stream of like amazing news. 00:01:45.610 --> 00:01:46.510 Oh yes. 00:01:46.730 --> 00:01:52.670 Where, you know, I, it's Sam. I mean, it's so refreshing. 00:01:53.070 --> 00:02:02.790 You know, this week I heard all these coherent plans about how we're tackling 00:02:02.790 --> 00:02:07.590 inflation and we're going to get the economy, 00:02:07.590 --> 00:02:11.650 you know, growing, you know, 00:02:12.550 --> 00:02:20.890 faster and helping the average American, you know, feel better economically. 00:02:22.450 --> 00:02:25.030 And we are going to be a leader and we are going to be a leader, 00:02:26.230 --> 00:02:31.170 around the world and peace and prosperity and democracy. 00:02:31.510 --> 00:02:35.250 It's just, I mean, it's just so refreshing, Sam. 00:02:35.850 --> 00:02:40.950 I mean, every day we've got a leadership that is working for every American 00:02:40.950 --> 00:02:47.230 so hard, you know, it's refreshing, right? 00:02:48.150 --> 00:02:49.070 Yes. Right. 00:02:49.290 --> 00:02:51.310 Or, okay. Did that not happen? 00:02:52.130 --> 00:02:57.830 No, that, that, that did not happen. And we will talk more about newsy stuff in a minute. 00:02:58.030 --> 00:03:06.350 As usual, our agenda is we spend time, you know, what was the phrase that our 00:03:06.350 --> 00:03:08.390 listener Pete said? Chewing the fat? 00:03:09.110 --> 00:03:13.330 Chewing the fat, yes. Was that it? Yes, chewing the fat. 00:03:13.730 --> 00:03:18.410 So we will chew some fat for a while, Yvonne and I, on non-newsy topics. 00:03:18.850 --> 00:03:20.490 And then we will take a break. 00:03:20.970 --> 00:03:24.530 And then we'll come back with newsy stuff. And as Yvonne said, 00:03:24.670 --> 00:03:25.690 there's been plenty of it. 00:03:26.370 --> 00:03:32.230 So what are you talking about? It's been slow news cycle. 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:34.970 It's just boring stuff. 00:03:35.790 --> 00:03:41.750 We got a whole bunch of policy wonks out there really just, you know, 00:03:42.810 --> 00:03:52.370 working really hard at the details of governing and absolutely prices and interest rates. 00:03:52.370 --> 00:03:57.190 And they're, they're really, you know, going out there and really trying to 00:03:57.190 --> 00:04:02.610 figure out how to help the average American very hard, you know, 00:04:02.990 --> 00:04:07.730 you know, it's, it's, it's, it's refreshing, Sam. I feel refreshed. 00:04:08.950 --> 00:04:10.810 Sparkly. Sparkly. 00:04:11.230 --> 00:04:12.090 Tingling even. 00:04:12.770 --> 00:04:14.230 Oh, tingling again. Okay. 00:04:14.490 --> 00:04:14.750 Yeah. 00:04:15.150 --> 00:04:16.270 You know, that's good. 00:04:16.910 --> 00:04:17.430 Yeah. 00:04:17.850 --> 00:04:23.030 So, okay. What's, what's your non-newsy thing? I will do another movie later, but you can start. 00:04:23.310 --> 00:04:26.630 What's my non-newsy thing? What the hell is my non-newsy thing? 00:04:27.740 --> 00:04:32.780 Or at least it could be something you read in the news that just isn't like 00:04:32.780 --> 00:04:34.840 the sort of serious political stuff, too. 00:04:34.980 --> 00:04:40.020 That works, you know, it doesn't have to be like, oh, you went to the store 00:04:40.020 --> 00:04:45.360 and had this exciting experience at the store or something or your latest travel escapades. 00:04:45.440 --> 00:04:47.420 It doesn't have to be that kind of stuff. It can be. 00:04:47.420 --> 00:04:50.100 My latest travel escapades. 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:54.180 My travel has gotten extremely boring. Oh, OK. 00:04:54.400 --> 00:04:59.300 No, no, no. My travel has gotten extremely boring. well just going back and. 00:04:59.300 --> 00:05:00.120 Forth to puerto rico. 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.520 That's all i'm doing yes it's all back and forth, 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:10.520 basically at this point it's turned into that i keep i i've even gotten to the 00:05:10.520 --> 00:05:17.500 point where they rented me the same rental car twice um like the exact same 00:05:17.500 --> 00:05:20.040 car not like the exact same car yes not. 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:20.900 Not just like the. 00:05:20.900 --> 00:05:24.020 Same not the same model i got the exact same car i'd 00:05:24.020 --> 00:05:26.760 got like five six weeks earlier i'm like oh i i 00:05:26.760 --> 00:05:29.700 got this car already you know 00:05:29.700 --> 00:05:34.000 i what i i've 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:43.460 what have i what have i done i i i i oh well i did mention this a few weeks 00:05:43.460 --> 00:05:50.700 back that i was going to go and do this car thing but oh yes. 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:55.180 Yes yes that you you got to like drive some fast car in. 00:05:55.180 --> 00:05:56.740 Our race truck. Yeah. 00:05:57.080 --> 00:06:01.600 Okay, that's worth talking about. Tell us about it. Did you crash? Did you die? 00:06:01.820 --> 00:06:10.480 I did not crash or die. You know, I will say, I had read some reviews online, 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.440 and people online were saying that this was kind of lame. 00:06:15.880 --> 00:06:16.400 Okay. 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:22.340 And I will admit that that tempered my expectations, okay? 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.540 So I had some low expectations coming in. 00:06:27.020 --> 00:06:35.360 So I got there. You know, the first thing that they do is they do this session where they explain how, 00:06:36.270 --> 00:06:41.530 show you how on a, on a, you check in first, they give you these things, 00:06:42.250 --> 00:06:47.750 then they, they, they have like half minute, half minute, half an hour, 00:06:47.930 --> 00:06:53.130 40, you know, at least half an hour session where they explain the safety rules. 00:06:53.750 --> 00:07:00.550 They explain you're going to be riding with an instructor. You're not riding in the car by yourself. 00:07:01.190 --> 00:07:06.710 And they, they, you know, what, how you need to follow their instructions and 00:07:06.710 --> 00:07:09.890 so forth and so on as you do that, 00:07:10.670 --> 00:07:16.330 and you know so that's this is pretty well organized then the thing is that, 00:07:17.030 --> 00:07:22.090 I first did and I wound up doing this. 00:07:23.030 --> 00:07:29.810 Is unplanned but it's the way it turned out I didn't go straight into the race 00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:35.570 car itself there was first a ride along okay on some other car, 00:07:35.910 --> 00:07:37.650 okay, that you rode along. 00:07:37.690 --> 00:07:41.410 And I will say that was not a bad idea because one of the things that, 00:07:41.570 --> 00:07:48.390 as I've raced tracks, it's very hard to just arrive at a track that you've never 00:07:48.390 --> 00:07:51.910 raced in and just drive it flat out. 00:07:52.470 --> 00:07:57.770 And, you know, any driver, look, good race car drivers, they don't just show 00:07:57.770 --> 00:08:01.710 up at a track, especially a new one that they're unfamiliar with and just go 00:08:01.710 --> 00:08:04.330 out there and lay a mega fast lap. 00:08:04.670 --> 00:08:08.130 Especially if it's not like the standardized shapes too, right? 00:08:09.010 --> 00:08:12.330 I mean, even then you have to look. It's not like an oval. Still, 00:08:12.490 --> 00:08:15.730 you have to learn it. Now, I mean, it's got all these turns and twists. 00:08:15.930 --> 00:08:20.650 It's not an oval. It's a course. 00:08:20.830 --> 00:08:23.650 And it has a lot of twists and turns and straights and whatever. 00:08:23.650 --> 00:08:26.270 You have to know how those are and so forth. 00:08:26.390 --> 00:08:32.010 They've laid it out that it's a decent racetrack. racetrack itself, okay? 00:08:32.650 --> 00:08:37.170 And so, you know, anybody, I mean, if you watch like. 00:08:38.340 --> 00:08:41.340 Any racing you will see that that they will do practice 00:08:41.340 --> 00:08:44.160 so they go 00:08:44.160 --> 00:08:47.160 out there so so all right so i got to do this 00:08:47.160 --> 00:08:50.300 uh first little like go 00:08:50.300 --> 00:08:53.500 jaunt around the track in in a sedan that is 00:08:53.500 --> 00:08:56.460 a very fast sedan where they got to show me how the 00:08:56.460 --> 00:08:59.680 track like went around okay and this 00:08:59.680 --> 00:09:02.560 was supposed to be with my son in the car 00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:05.900 but oh okay my son decided that 00:09:05.900 --> 00:09:09.780 he wanted to sleep um okay the 00:09:09.780 --> 00:09:12.460 only time that i found for this was quite early on a 00:09:12.460 --> 00:09:17.440 saturday and he decided he preferred to sleep i when i went to his room to try 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:21.360 to get him up he basically took his pillow put it on top of his head and just 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:27.700 go away i'm like okay don't worry about it's fine well i got there and they 00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:29.800 did change it around so So I didn't get like, 00:09:30.020 --> 00:09:32.780 I didn't like that money wasn't lost. 00:09:33.040 --> 00:09:36.220 They kind of like repackaged it and some other things. And I got a video because 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:40.880 I didn't buy the video, but the video and stuff, whatever. 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.540 I'm like, oh, okay. All right. So I'd some, and some other extra little extra 00:09:44.540 --> 00:09:46.500 thing. So I'm like, okay, well this works. Okay. 00:09:47.560 --> 00:09:52.440 And so I did that, that around the track. And then, then after you did that, 00:09:52.640 --> 00:09:56.980 then they put you into the, into the, into the. 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:03.060 You you chose you had a few choices i chose 00:10:03.060 --> 00:10:06.720 an italian car specifically because i 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.300 i had never i i've never driven an italian supercar 00:10:10.300 --> 00:10:16.380 right so that was like the thing and so then we you know with the instructor 00:10:16.380 --> 00:10:21.320 that talked about a little bit we went out and we started doing laps and it 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:28.380 was about The whole thing itself Was about less than 15 minutes Okay Hmm, 00:10:29.460 --> 00:10:32.820 It's relatively short, but I. 00:10:32.820 --> 00:10:38.960 Think your orientation was longer than the actual race. 00:10:38.980 --> 00:10:45.880 Yes. And that's fine. Okay. That's not for specifically what you're doing out there. 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:50.100 I thought that the amount of time on the track was perfectly fine. Okay. 00:10:50.420 --> 00:10:50.660 Okay. 00:10:50.920 --> 00:10:58.220 I've done like quite a lot more of that gets exhausting at the track. Okay. 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.500 So I will say yeah it 00:11:02.500 --> 00:11:05.340 was the amount of time was done some people 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:10.300 said no it's not a lot I thought it was perfectly fine because you did get to 00:11:10.300 --> 00:11:16.600 do enough high speed driving because the way that they structure it they've 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:23.300 planned it out enough with the instructors that you're able to get up to, 00:11:24.020 --> 00:11:30.640 speed real quick okay And they've also built a lot of safety margin into it. 00:11:31.040 --> 00:11:38.760 So anybody who is a novice is, is not going to wind up into a wall or off the track. 00:11:38.880 --> 00:11:41.860 By the way, one of the things that the orientation, they talked about all the 00:11:41.860 --> 00:11:44.200 fees that you would incur if you did that. Okay. 00:11:44.400 --> 00:11:45.800 All right. Yes. 00:11:45.860 --> 00:11:50.860 That was a very important thing, you know, about all the fees that you would incur. 00:11:51.220 --> 00:11:53.900 If you, if you go off the track, it's $500. 00:11:54.920 --> 00:12:00.420 Well, you had insurance, but there were like these deductibles that you would 00:12:00.420 --> 00:12:03.860 incur before you get up to the insurers to the damage part. 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:09.120 So basically try to discourage anybody from just being a cowboy out there. 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:16.660 And they built a lot of margin so people wouldn't wind up into a wall. 00:12:16.900 --> 00:12:18.880 Because one of the things is. 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:22.420 I mean, there's good reasons to not want that. 00:12:22.680 --> 00:12:26.420 There's excellent reasons. There's totally excellent reasons. 00:12:26.580 --> 00:12:29.080 One thing I was talking with the instructor is like, well, this isn't a racing 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.740 school. And he's totally right. Because at a racing school, we basically, 00:12:32.780 --> 00:12:38.540 we would go as far, as far as we can with our throttle down on the track. 00:12:38.540 --> 00:12:41.100 And then slam the brakes as late as possible. 00:12:41.260 --> 00:12:49.400 We did not do that, okay? We did get a good long way, but we lifted off the 00:12:49.400 --> 00:12:51.580 gas, which in racing you don't do. 00:12:51.800 --> 00:12:59.640 You don't lift off. You go, you're going with a pedal to the floorboard and you slam the brakes. 00:12:59.980 --> 00:13:05.360 But over here, we did lift off and we braked early, okay? 00:13:05.640 --> 00:13:10.520 Earlier than normally you had. And they had color-coded cones to show you, 00:13:10.640 --> 00:13:16.440 okay, this is liftoff here, this color cone, this other color cone means braking 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:17.780 and so forth. And you went around. 00:13:18.380 --> 00:13:23.680 And look, the reality is that these cars are really fast. 00:13:23.920 --> 00:13:31.080 You know, I was able to, in like a blink of an eye, get this thing over 120 miles an hour. 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.860 Okay. It really did not take very long to do that. 00:13:35.790 --> 00:13:41.510 So, so you were able to get up to quite a lot of speed. Okay. 00:13:42.090 --> 00:13:45.730 Especially if you were aggressive with the throttle, he did explain to me how, 00:13:45.910 --> 00:13:51.290 you know, about the throttle, whatever I, because a lot of these throttles of 00:13:51.290 --> 00:13:55.450 these cars, if you don't press them all the way down. Okay. 00:13:56.030 --> 00:13:59.910 They won't go to, they won't, they won't really go to full speed. 00:14:00.030 --> 00:14:03.810 You have to really like, you have to really like smash it all the way down. 00:14:04.050 --> 00:14:07.010 Okay. It's not just like pull it all the way kind of down or whatever. 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:11.670 You have to really hit the floorboard because it will when you do that, 00:14:11.710 --> 00:14:16.910 it will make it will it will downshift these cars. They didn't want you shifting either. 00:14:17.330 --> 00:14:21.210 Now, the one thing is that in the past, obviously, you used like a manual five 00:14:21.210 --> 00:14:24.890 seat manual. Look, this was meant for novices, no manual cars. 00:14:25.170 --> 00:14:29.550 OK, and the reality is that now these super 00:14:29.550 --> 00:14:32.650 high performance automatic transmissions that 00:14:32.650 --> 00:14:36.210 they've got for this kind of car shift faster 00:14:36.210 --> 00:14:38.890 than you know it used to be a manual was faster than 00:14:38.890 --> 00:14:41.830 the automatic now forget it no these cars are faster 00:14:41.830 --> 00:14:45.410 than anything that you could do okay they will upshift downshift 00:14:45.410 --> 00:14:50.330 they'll do all that for you it's really just you know you're you're not worrying 00:14:50.330 --> 00:14:55.030 about shifting for the most part you could do it and i and i would see that 00:14:55.030 --> 00:14:59.970 how i would be if i was really racing i would but but it was perfectly fine 00:14:59.970 --> 00:15:03.550 but the one thing that happens is When you press the pedal all the way down. 00:15:04.370 --> 00:15:11.230 These throttles are now electronic, so it will unleash more power. 00:15:11.310 --> 00:15:15.150 While at the same time, it signals to the transmission to downshift. Okay? 00:15:15.670 --> 00:15:22.170 So we'll do both of those things by just smashing the gas. And so the cars got up to speed. 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:25.250 It was fun. It was a lot of fun. 00:15:26.490 --> 00:15:32.370 I i will say i i got a lot more enjoyment out of it than i thought that i would 00:15:32.370 --> 00:15:38.510 uh i would recommend it to anybody that wants to go and like really give the proper plug. 00:15:38.510 --> 00:15:39.510 Where did you go. 00:15:39.510 --> 00:15:47.330 It's called oh god what the heck i gotta get the name of of of this place so. 00:15:47.330 --> 00:15:50.650 Like other people were sort of saying it wasn't that good you liked it. 00:15:50.650 --> 00:15:57.610 Yeah yeah it's called the extreme w you the extreme experience.com okay and 00:15:57.610 --> 00:16:04.770 extreme x-t-r-e god x-t-r-e-m-e, 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.760 experience.com so you know so 00:16:08.760 --> 00:16:11.560 extreme experience so it's 00:16:11.560 --> 00:16:14.540 it's it's it starts with both starts with 00:16:14.540 --> 00:16:20.860 an x instead of with an e oh of course of course so um yeah and the thing is 00:16:20.860 --> 00:16:24.120 that they do it around the country they actually have all these trucks where 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:28.720 they bring all the equipment and everything to the play to a different city 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.980 different places they do that and you know look like i've said i Look, 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.460 I am one that is worried about the environment. 00:16:35.460 --> 00:16:39.480 I don't plan on buying a car like this again. 00:16:39.660 --> 00:16:41.500 Well, how good would that car 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:47.520 be in daily driving, Yvonne? Could you go to the grocery store with it? 00:16:47.520 --> 00:16:52.000 Actually, here is the thing about these new modern hypercars. 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:56.360 They are actually pretty decent now at driving around slow. 00:16:56.700 --> 00:17:04.400 Okay? Now, could you put a lot of groceries in them? Not particularly, but you drive to work. 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:10.980 It does drive. It does have like a this is the crazy thing they've done these cars. 00:17:11.140 --> 00:17:15.620 Now I could I could have shifted it to the soft comfort mode and it's just pretty 00:17:15.620 --> 00:17:18.180 puttying around like like a normal car. No big deal. 00:17:18.340 --> 00:17:21.060 And I did drive a little bit like that because once you start, 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:24.700 you don't first go out like that. You're just driving around slowly or whatever. 00:17:24.840 --> 00:17:29.240 And I'm like, oh, this is just, you know, like whatever. It's like just any normal car. 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.900 Now, it used to be that these cars before now, they were just, I mean, 00:17:33.340 --> 00:17:40.040 doing that was an ordeal, but, but you could, but you, you could manage that if you want, but I, 00:17:40.380 --> 00:17:43.580 but that's not the reason I'm just like, I said, no, I, I'm not, 00:17:43.660 --> 00:17:46.340 I'm not buying what these kinds of cars, even though I know that, 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:48.420 I don't know why, why, you know, 00:17:48.900 --> 00:17:52.980 why I'd be wearing a different era now where apparently none of that matters. 00:17:52.980 --> 00:17:58.940 I guess, you know, but you know, I had a lot of fun. If you want to experience 00:17:58.940 --> 00:18:02.540 that, I would highly recommend it. It was a good time. 00:18:03.890 --> 00:18:08.150 You know, I may not sound that excited about it right now, but it's probably 00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:10.710 more because I'm just a little bit tired. 00:18:11.190 --> 00:18:15.230 I, you know, I've been like six, seven weeks. 00:18:15.390 --> 00:18:20.390 I don't know. I've lost track of like fucking traveling every fucking week and 00:18:20.390 --> 00:18:27.150 chasing people and calling people and doing and presenting and meeting and going 00:18:27.150 --> 00:18:30.810 from one meeting to another fucking meeting and something and so forth. 00:18:30.910 --> 00:18:33.490 And I'm just like, I'm, I'm, I'm wiped. 00:18:33.890 --> 00:18:37.110 I really i feel you i feel 00:18:37.110 --> 00:18:40.930 you okay my turn yes okay so 00:18:40.930 --> 00:18:44.230 my movie this time around 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:48.050 is ghostbusters but 00:18:48.050 --> 00:18:52.330 which one not yeah not the original but 00:18:52.330 --> 00:18:57.010 the 2016 ghostbusters the 00:18:57.010 --> 00:19:00.190 one with the women it is after the 00:19:00.190 --> 00:19:03.450 fact been sort of well apparently they put it into credits 00:19:03.450 --> 00:19:06.850 right away it's ghostbusters answer the call but 00:19:06.850 --> 00:19:09.590 it was marketed as just ghostbusters at the 00:19:09.590 --> 00:19:17.810 time ghostbusters and here's here's the thing this is one where so first first 00:19:17.810 --> 00:19:24.430 of all it is a reboot it is not a sequel to ghostbusters and ghostbusters 2 00:19:24.430 --> 00:19:28.830 okay it it basically starts It's over. 00:19:29.170 --> 00:19:32.670 There's a new cast of characters. They are, in fact, women. 00:19:32.790 --> 00:19:38.490 They're sort of analogs to the ones that were in the original Ghostbusters, 00:19:38.750 --> 00:19:40.410 but completely recharacterized. 00:19:40.550 --> 00:19:48.450 So it's not just like, yo, it's Venkman, but it's a woman Venkman, you know, or whatever. 00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:54.170 It's that their backstories are different. How they come together is a little bit different. 00:19:55.410 --> 00:19:56.730 Which year did this movie come out? 00:19:57.330 --> 00:19:57.890 2016. 00:19:58.790 --> 00:20:04.230 Oh yeah was there another ghostbusters after that so there. 00:20:04.230 --> 00:20:07.270 There have been multiple ghostbusters after this that are. 00:20:07.270 --> 00:20:10.230 Sequels to the original multiple yes. 00:20:10.230 --> 00:20:11.550 There were i believe two. 00:20:11.550 --> 00:20:19.770 More we've had i i i have managed to not watch any of them you actually beat 00:20:19.770 --> 00:20:22.710 me to a movie that is a modern movie to watch. 00:20:22.930 --> 00:20:30.890 There you go. Well, see, here's the thing, though. The two after this were sequels to the first two. 00:20:31.210 --> 00:20:31.730 Right. 00:20:32.170 --> 00:20:37.970 They basically tried to erase it. And they pretend it never happened. 00:20:38.210 --> 00:20:43.770 They pretend it never happened. And here's the thing, because the main thing 00:20:43.770 --> 00:20:49.190 around this when it happened was this massive I don't know. 00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:53.440 Reaction against the fact that it was women ghostbusters 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.280 and your sort of typical misogynistic trolls 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:03.900 went after it okay and so they were flooding review sites at the time with negative 00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:10.120 reviews before the movie even came out they were you know talking about how 00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:15.980 you know these these women aren't funny and this is not like a good, 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:22.460 you know, this is disrespectful to the original Ghostbusters and all kinds of stuff like this. 00:21:22.600 --> 00:21:26.940 The, the, the women in it, by the way, Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, 00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:31.580 Kate McKinnon, and Leslie Jones were the four pretty good cast. 00:21:31.800 --> 00:21:37.840 That's a pretty good cast. Those are all like well-known funny women. Okay. 00:21:38.300 --> 00:21:41.700 You know, now Now, here's the deal. 00:21:42.260 --> 00:21:45.860 I'll give you my overall review and then talk a little bit more about it. 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.400 I will give it a thumb sideways overall. 00:21:48.840 --> 00:21:56.560 Okay? It was fine. It was not exceptional. It was not great. While I was watching it. 00:21:56.560 --> 00:21:59.940 I was— So they gave it shit for the women, even though maybe the problem is, 00:22:00.100 --> 00:22:03.140 you know, but look, sometimes happens the script wasn't maybe that good. 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:09.300 Well, here's the thing. It was an average okay movie. It was not a bad movie. Okay? 00:22:09.300 --> 00:22:11.420 Right. So it was just average. And so, yeah. 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:17.600 Yeah. And, and, and look, it did not deserve any of the use it got. 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:18.360 Okay. 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:24.300 Like it did not at all. Like now generally I like sequels better than reboots. 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.780 I always get a little grumpy when they just like completely ignore the previous 00:22:27.780 --> 00:22:32.160 and say, we're starting over, but you know, it's sometimes it works. 00:22:32.280 --> 00:22:35.980 Sometimes it doesn't, but like when you're going for something that there's 00:22:35.980 --> 00:22:41.340 a lot of nostalgia value for having the connection to the original is, I think, good. 00:22:41.340 --> 00:22:46.660 So I question the choice to reboot rather than sort of introduce new characters 00:22:46.660 --> 00:22:48.120 into the Ghostbusters universe. 00:22:48.300 --> 00:22:51.580 But this is what they chose to do. And it was... 00:22:52.290 --> 00:22:58.630 You know, I kept thinking like it, it sort of roughly paralleled the structure 00:22:58.630 --> 00:23:00.570 of the first ghostbuster movie. 00:23:00.570 --> 00:23:04.590 They changed a bunch of stuff. Like the, the details were not the same. 00:23:04.590 --> 00:23:10.010 You did not have like, you know, the, the, the, the, the gate, 00:23:10.210 --> 00:23:13.070 the key master and the gatekeeper or whatever. 00:23:13.710 --> 00:23:16.850 Yeah. Yeah. I am the geek. Yeah. I'm the key master. Yeah. Yeah. 00:23:16.950 --> 00:23:19.850 Yeah. You did. You did not have Rick Moranis and. 00:23:20.350 --> 00:23:24.330 Oh God. And who's the other person? I'm sorry. It's just the other person wasn't as famous. 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:27.030 Sigourney Weaver is actually more famous. 00:23:27.690 --> 00:23:32.710 Oh, okay. Well, I thought it was, I thought, wasn't it the, it was, 00:23:33.030 --> 00:23:34.770 wasn't it? Oh, nevermind. 00:23:34.950 --> 00:23:37.830 Okay. I didn't remember that it was Sigourney Weaver. Okay. Yeah. 00:23:38.050 --> 00:23:40.950 Sigourney Weaver is definitely far more famous than Rick Moran. 00:23:42.950 --> 00:23:44.510 Way, way, way. 00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:48.410 Anyway, like, and the one thing I will say, yeah, like, 00:23:48.710 --> 00:23:55.730 but again, like, it got abused for it got abuse it did not deserve at all like 00:23:55.730 --> 00:24:00.390 people were all like ripping it to shreds saying it was horrible blah blah blah 00:24:00.390 --> 00:24:08.310 right now like with years passed by it has a 74 percent at rotten tomatoes which you know what. 00:24:08.310 --> 00:24:09.290 Percentage you're rotten. 00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:15.550 74 that's not bad that's not bad right like it's good actually you know it it 00:24:15.550 --> 00:24:20.290 is you know like when it first came out like i said they were flooded with these 00:24:20.290 --> 00:24:22.750 negative reviews. It was in the toilet. Right. 00:24:22.970 --> 00:24:25.570 But now years have passed. 00:24:25.810 --> 00:24:31.290 More people have rated whatever. 74% is not bad. You know, it was a fine movie. 00:24:31.670 --> 00:24:36.430 And I just get pissed when I think about it, about like the abuse it got. 00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:43.010 Now, again, like I'm only giving it a thumb sideways because it paralleled the 00:24:43.010 --> 00:24:44.530 original Ghostbusters so much. 00:24:44.590 --> 00:24:47.530 If you'd seen the original ghostbusters every single 00:24:47.530 --> 00:24:50.470 moment you were thinking about the comparisons like yeah 00:24:50.470 --> 00:24:55.110 are they doing a problem are they doing it better or worse than the original 00:24:55.110 --> 00:24:59.410 what it what have they changed and what is the same you know you're thinking 00:24:59.410 --> 00:25:05.470 about that like the whole damn time and and i think that detracted from it i 00:25:05.470 --> 00:25:07.830 will say actually like with. 00:25:09.060 --> 00:25:13.400 And this is kind of a negative that I'm going to say this, but the, 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:19.100 the best part of the movie was the cameos from the original cast. 00:25:19.320 --> 00:25:24.140 Cause most of the original cast did end up in cameo roles and new one. 00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:30.160 And especially like sort of in the end credits, they brought in everybody from 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.800 the original movie was sort of like, you know, sort of in, in, 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.260 in like little gaps in the end credits, they'd roll some credits and then there'd 00:25:37.260 --> 00:25:38.560 be like a little mini scene. 00:25:38.560 --> 00:25:40.760 And repeat over and over again. 00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:44.960 And it add all kinds of little riffs between people in the original cast. 00:25:45.080 --> 00:25:47.820 And that was actually the funniest part of the whole damn movie, 00:25:47.820 --> 00:25:52.140 was the people in the original cast are interacting with the new people, 00:25:52.300 --> 00:25:56.120 not as their original characters, just as completely different characters. 00:25:56.380 --> 00:26:03.660 But doing some of the things, like for instance, you remember Bill Murray and 00:26:03.660 --> 00:26:08.040 Sigourney Reaver doing the whole scene where he pretended to be a psychic. 00:26:09.220 --> 00:26:12.360 And first there was some other character 00:26:12.360 --> 00:26:15.800 and then sigourney weaver came in and he reacted 00:26:15.800 --> 00:26:19.840 completely different to sigourney weaver than the other character they basically 00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:25.360 redid that scene okay you know in the end credits of the movie and it was funny 00:26:25.360 --> 00:26:30.440 like again the funniest part of the movie were these cameos and it's like well 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.160 that doesn't say much about the rest of the movie but the rest of the movie was okay. 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:41.520 But yeah, like thumbs sideways. It was okay. If you're watching all the Ghostbusters, don't leave it out. 00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:46.000 It's unfair to these people. Oh, I should mention, like I mentioned the harassment campaign. 00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:52.500 It was so bad that I believe it was Leslie Jones was the one that was completely 00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:57.380 like exited social media because she was getting so much abuse. 00:26:57.740 --> 00:26:59.800 And it's, no, just... 00:27:02.110 --> 00:27:04.830 Be good people come on even if you 00:27:04.830 --> 00:27:07.750 don't like the movie there's no reason to 00:27:07.750 --> 00:27:11.170 like turn it into a harassment campaign and 00:27:11.170 --> 00:27:14.570 that's essentially what happened and the these 00:27:14.570 --> 00:27:18.030 women were harassed relentlessly for this movie and 00:27:18.030 --> 00:27:20.930 sort of chased off and then they they sort 00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:23.730 of try to pretend this movie didn't even 00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:26.610 exist and that's not fair that's not fair at 00:27:26.610 --> 00:27:29.610 all this this was fine this was a fine 00:27:29.610 --> 00:27:32.650 movie it you know it it's in 00:27:32.650 --> 00:27:35.730 the shadow of the the others though but it 00:27:35.730 --> 00:27:38.490 it was you know i don't 00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:44.150 know it just pisses me off and that's all i have to say about that okay okay 00:27:44.150 --> 00:27:51.290 and and and you know i did i have watched one more of the ghostbusters movies 00:27:51.290 --> 00:27:56.430 but then there's like the the very most or maybe two how many are there ghostbusters 00:27:56.430 --> 00:27:58.350 franchise let me just make sure i. 00:27:58.350 --> 00:27:59.530 Guess i'm going to guess. 00:27:59.530 --> 00:28:02.430 Five there so yes the in 00:28:02.430 --> 00:28:07.010 the original in the original timeline there's 00:28:07.010 --> 00:28:13.850 now there's four with another one coming so there's there was ghostbusters ghostbusters 00:28:13.850 --> 00:28:19.010 2 ghostbusters afterlife and ghostbusters frozen empire i have seen ghostbusters 00:28:19.010 --> 00:28:23.610 afterlife i will eventually talk about it here i have not yet seen frozen empire 00:28:23.610 --> 00:28:25.010 it just came out last year both. 00:28:25.010 --> 00:28:29.930 I mean You've seen, I have seen none of these Ghostbusters, other than the first 00:28:29.930 --> 00:28:36.430 two, like, back from, what, whatever the hell it was, 80s, 90s, 00:28:36.550 --> 00:28:38.270 I don't, I don't, 80s, right? 00:28:38.830 --> 00:28:41.590 Yeah, the first two were 84 and 89. 00:28:42.130 --> 00:28:43.950 Yeah, so, yeah, these were from the 80s. 00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:48.370 And then this one with the women was in 2016, and then the two that returned 00:28:48.370 --> 00:28:52.550 to the original universe were 2021 and 2024. for. 00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:58.190 I will hold my opinion on the 2021 version until I get to it in order. 00:28:58.450 --> 00:29:02.690 And I have not yet watched the last one. The last one only came out last year. 00:29:02.850 --> 00:29:07.650 The reason I was rewatching all the Ghostbusters was actually to try to prepare 00:29:07.650 --> 00:29:11.210 to see the new one in the theaters. I didn't make it. 00:29:11.650 --> 00:29:19.410 So anyway, okay, that's it. Let's take a break. And then I guess we'll hit the newsy stuff. yeah. 00:29:22.150 --> 00:29:25.090 So much fun with the newsy stuff okay here's a break, 00:31:08.390 --> 00:31:13.710 Okay, we are back. So, Yvonne, as is traditional, you pick first. 00:31:17.470 --> 00:31:19.030 I'm trying to... 00:31:19.030 --> 00:31:23.230 You know, you could have thought about this during the break or even before the show started. 00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:30.510 I was... Well, I was reading about something that perhaps to talk about, 00:31:30.670 --> 00:31:33.630 but I don't think that we've got much to say about it. I don't think I've got 00:31:33.630 --> 00:31:34.930 anything to say about it. 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:40.270 So, I mean, other than it sucks. but i mean i i think i could i could make that 00:31:40.270 --> 00:31:44.870 argument for everything that is in the news you can mention. 00:31:44.870 --> 00:31:47.470 The thing that sucks and then move on to the real topic. 00:31:47.470 --> 00:31:50.810 There is this guy who's an nfl punter that 00:31:50.810 --> 00:31:57.490 went to meeting in california to protest it was an anti-maga protest that he 00:31:57.490 --> 00:32:04.570 did and for some reason he got fired from his job at a school as a coach basically 00:32:04.570 --> 00:32:08.650 they said that the only reason they said is they were getting way too much attention over, 00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:13.430 his comments at the school and they just didn't want to deal with it. 00:32:14.690 --> 00:32:18.010 So anyway, that sucks. 00:32:18.550 --> 00:32:23.990 So anyway, let's just hit the elephant in the fucking room. 00:32:24.310 --> 00:32:29.950 Okay, so Trump and Zelensky met at the White House. 00:32:30.870 --> 00:32:32.610 Did that go well, Sam? 00:32:34.590 --> 00:32:39.150 About as beautifully as any meeting I've ever seen between heads of state. 00:32:39.650 --> 00:32:40.270 Right. 00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:44.130 No, it did not go well. 00:32:44.630 --> 00:32:52.570 I mean, just, you know, I mean, I've got a fucking president that basically 00:32:52.570 --> 00:32:56.050 just sat there and just talked like he was Vladimir Putin. 00:32:56.870 --> 00:33:00.330 Well, and Vice President Vance took part as well. 00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:01.950 Oh, and Vance also. 00:33:01.950 --> 00:33:06.510 The whole thing was clearly planned out. This was not like they deny it. 00:33:06.610 --> 00:33:11.410 But clearly this was like they they plan to ambush him like this. 00:33:11.570 --> 00:33:13.790 This is not like spontaneous. 00:33:14.970 --> 00:33:17.650 How was it? Was Marco Rubio happy? 00:33:18.410 --> 00:33:20.610 Marco Rubio was not happy. 00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:26.830 He looked very glum. He looked about as bad as I did on election night. 00:33:28.870 --> 00:33:41.010 I mean that's the face that I had like going into election night this last election you know I'm just, 00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:44.140 Is it surprising? 00:33:44.600 --> 00:33:45.200 No. 00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:45.760 No. 00:33:46.540 --> 00:33:52.440 Although I did hear an interview in the hours after this from someone saying 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:58.040 that the Ukrainian delegation expected that it would be tough. 00:33:58.520 --> 00:34:05.260 But they did not expect this. They did not expect it to be this bad. And how? 00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:09.660 I also, I will agree with their assessment. 00:34:09.660 --> 00:34:14.920 I expected it that it would be tough. But I thought since this asshole invited 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:20.780 him to the White House, that it would be a little bit better. 00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:26.500 One thing Rubio said after this, I think it was an interview with Fox, 00:34:26.740 --> 00:34:33.460 was that actually Zelensky was the one who insisted on coming to Washington 00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:38.920 for the final negotiations on this mineral deal rather than signing it there. 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.140 And presumably that's because he wanted to get directly in front of Trump to 00:34:44.140 --> 00:34:46.300 try to like negotiate something. 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:53.440 Well, I mean, I, I mean, if you're going to sign something that if you're negotiating 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.800 something that of that importance, 00:34:57.580 --> 00:35:01.880 wouldn't you, you know, they're, they're saying they want to go forward. 00:35:02.240 --> 00:35:07.300 Wouldn't you ask for, Hey, can we have face to face? 00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:10.230 But they agreed to it. They could have said no. 00:35:10.510 --> 00:35:14.270 Oh, yeah. They agreed to it for sure. I mean, basically, the notion is that, 00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:17.030 hey, Trump is very transactional. 00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:21.810 Trump is very much about personal one-on-one interactions as well. 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:28.790 So, like, if you're trying to make a deal, you want to get face-to-face with Donald Trump. 00:35:29.350 --> 00:35:29.530 Right. 00:35:30.030 --> 00:35:33.690 And so that all makes sense. Just to make sure we've covered it. 00:35:34.070 --> 00:35:38.050 You know, basically, the timeline, they came in. They had a meeting. 00:35:38.230 --> 00:35:42.370 And then they were having a sort of Oval Office part of the meeting where they 00:35:42.370 --> 00:35:45.530 brought the press in for photographs and all this kind of stuff. 00:35:46.830 --> 00:35:53.870 And basically, Vance and Trump started berating Zelensky while this was going on. 00:35:53.990 --> 00:35:57.670 And Zelensky, for the most part, kept calm and cool. 00:35:57.990 --> 00:36:01.750 And, you know, he didn't snap back at them. He did. 00:36:01.910 --> 00:36:04.810 He also didn't give in. He like when they said something wrong, 00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:06.430 he was like, no, that's not right. 00:36:06.430 --> 00:36:09.150 You know and and tried to hold 00:36:09.150 --> 00:36:12.210 his own there and it got very contentious and 00:36:12.210 --> 00:36:15.290 very hot there was one point on there 00:36:15.290 --> 00:36:18.150 were multiple video feeds from this one of them sort of 00:36:18.150 --> 00:36:20.990 panned to the side and you saw a woman with 00:36:20.990 --> 00:36:24.170 like her head in her hands apparently this was 00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:30.110 like the the actual like u.s envoy to ukraine who was like this is not going 00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:37.330 well um but they and then they They were going to have a full-fledged press 00:36:37.330 --> 00:36:41.070 conference with the two of them afterwards, and they were going to sign the mineral deal. 00:36:41.490 --> 00:36:45.310 That all got canceled. And there were conflicting reports at first, 00:36:45.390 --> 00:36:49.050 but it looks like in the end, Zelensky and his team went off to another room 00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:51.670 for a while while the White House decided what to do next. 00:36:51.890 --> 00:36:55.490 And then White House staffers came in and told them to just leave. 00:36:55.850 --> 00:37:00.050 And so they left the White House. And so there's no deal, nothing signed. 00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:06.110 And, and there's all sorts of speculation about, like, like I said, 00:37:06.230 --> 00:37:09.770 this seemed planned to me, but like the white house denies it. 00:37:09.850 --> 00:37:12.190 The white house says that Zelensky provoked them. 00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:19.250 You know and okay even if the lens first of all i see nothing in the videos 00:37:19.250 --> 00:37:25.310 that indicate zelinski provoked anything but even if he did well keep your damn 00:37:25.310 --> 00:37:28.030 self under control you you don't like. 00:37:28.030 --> 00:37:30.910 Lash out they berated they brought him in and 00:37:30.910 --> 00:37:34.230 they just berated him and and and you 00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:38.850 know vance with his you know fucking sanctimonious 00:37:38.850 --> 00:37:41.670 bullshit you should 00:37:41.670 --> 00:37:47.110 be thinking us you should be thanking us and then you know trump saying well 00:37:47.110 --> 00:37:51.090 i got all the cards you would be you know you you would be and then just all 00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:57.990 the lies i mean it went back to the damn lies you know you started the war you're 00:37:57.990 --> 00:38:00.870 a dictator you're i mean i'm just like. 00:38:00.870 --> 00:38:02.330 They didn't they didn't. 00:38:02.330 --> 00:38:02.950 Repeat all. 00:38:02.950 --> 00:38:04.170 Of that during this session. 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:11.590 But a number of that stuff was like you know Insinuated I've got all the cards 00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:18.070 You're just You're fighting because You We're, 00:38:19.030 --> 00:38:22.410 You feel powerful because we're backing you or something like that. 00:38:22.610 --> 00:38:22.910 Right. 00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:23.870 To that effect. 00:38:24.290 --> 00:38:30.030 And look, part of this is, you know, okay, if you brought him here and knew 00:38:30.030 --> 00:38:34.390 you were going to do this, then you knew you weren't going to go through with 00:38:34.390 --> 00:38:35.490 this mineral deal anyway. 00:38:35.630 --> 00:38:38.850 Which, by the way, was not good terms for the Ukrainians. 00:38:38.970 --> 00:38:44.370 The Ukrainians were just trying to make good with Trump so that they could, 00:38:44.490 --> 00:38:47.530 you know, have further discussions afterwards. 00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:55.010 And so, like, look, here's the bottom line that, I mean, lots of people predicted 00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:59.690 before the election, but I think is absolutely clear now. 00:38:59.950 --> 00:39:05.210 This isn't just Trump backing off from supporting the Ukrainians. 00:39:05.210 --> 00:39:10.170 And it's from backing up Europe, period. Backing up Europe. Backing up anybody. 00:39:10.630 --> 00:39:14.030 Backing up Taiwan. Listen, backing up anybody. 00:39:14.410 --> 00:39:20.490 This is like Trump retreating completely from the role that the U.S. 00:39:20.870 --> 00:39:28.370 Had in the world post-World War II. Well, I'd go and and and accelerating an 00:39:28.370 --> 00:39:33.870 arms race globally, because that is what we are looking at now. 00:39:34.170 --> 00:39:38.450 Look, I'd go further than that. It's not even the United States moving from 00:39:38.450 --> 00:39:41.070 a pro-democracy position to a neutral position. 00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:47.870 They are nearly 100 percent taking Putin's side on every single one of these issues. 00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:51.890 This isn't just moving to neutrality. This is switching sides in the war. 00:39:52.410 --> 00:39:55.510 Oh, I mean, in the Ukraine case, yes. Okay. 00:39:56.290 --> 00:40:00.330 I just, because again, because Trump, this is, because Trump's transactional. 00:40:00.610 --> 00:40:02.550 I think that is the case with Ukraine. 00:40:02.850 --> 00:40:06.910 I don't know what the fuck else he's going to do with anything else, 00:40:06.910 --> 00:40:12.250 but it definitely, in Ukraine's case, he is taking Russia's side. 00:40:12.510 --> 00:40:14.630 Yeah. Period. A hundred percent. 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.840 Whether that holds up in any other thing, who knows? I don't know. 00:40:21.200 --> 00:40:29.360 But he definitely is inclined to be aligned with Putin on stuff. 00:40:29.540 --> 00:40:36.760 And so, like I said, it goes into, takes the U.S. 00:40:37.220 --> 00:40:45.560 From a role that it had as basically seen as defender of the Western world. 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:52.460 In large part, especially in the post-Soviet collapse period of time, 00:40:52.640 --> 00:41:00.720 into now it's just like everybody better fend for themselves because the U.S. 00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:04.120 Might just basically throw you under the bus. 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.920 Well, we started to talk about this last week, and I mentioned something on 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.340 the curmudgeon's corner slack as well. 00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:14.460 But Europe in particular, but this applies to other parts of the world too, 00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:20.620 The whole world basically has to assume at this point that the U.S. 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:26.220 Is, A, completely unpredictable. It could go any way and it could change on 00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:30.460 a dime, but fundamentally needs to be considered as an adversary. 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.160 Like even our nominal allies. 00:41:33.380 --> 00:41:37.840 Oh, you can't. Yeah, you cannot count on them as an ally for anything. 00:41:38.160 --> 00:41:45.980 Not at all. But worse than that, you have to make plans assuming that the U.S. 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:47.320 Is going to be outright hostile. 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.860 You are not safe making an assumption of anything else. 00:41:52.860 --> 00:42:03.160 But Sam, here is the thing that he has repeatedly said. He wants to significantly diminish the U.S. 00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.960 Military strength right now. 00:42:06.260 --> 00:42:14.160 I mean, Sam, he said it. he wants a 50% I mean this is this is like I mean basically 00:42:14.160 --> 00:42:16.760 I mean Putin told him this, 00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:23.140 Oh, cut your military 50%. He's going, he is saying he wants this. 00:42:23.460 --> 00:42:28.160 Now, I know Congress isn't authorizing it, but it's what we want. 00:42:28.660 --> 00:42:36.220 And obviously it will hobble, you know, the military in many ways. 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.580 But again, the one thing is that the only, if I am, say, 00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:47.100 Taiwan right now, I would be crazy 00:42:47.100 --> 00:42:53.080 if I'm not making plans to ramp up our defense spending like tenfold. 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:55.060 Same for Europe. 00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:56.260 Same for Europe. 00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:57.080 Yeah. 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:04.200 Tenfold. Fuck this shit. You know, if I'm spending, well, maybe not Europe tenfold 00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:10.800 as much, you know, but certainly like double, triple, whatever your outlays are right now. 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.540 But for Taiwan, I would say I'm fucking spending 10 times whatever the fuck 00:43:14.540 --> 00:43:15.380 we're spending right now. 00:43:15.540 --> 00:43:21.460 And we're basically just, you know, becoming a militarized nation at this point. 00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.640 If I were Taiwan, that would be my approach. 00:43:26.380 --> 00:43:31.360 And I would say that I would probably be thinking along those lines of our North 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:38.620 Korea or Japan. I mean, what I'm saying is that this is unleashing a global arms race. 00:43:39.120 --> 00:43:41.660 It's crazy. But this is what. 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:45.740 I think you're right. I think it's inevitable. And honestly, 00:43:46.140 --> 00:43:49.860 like, it's the smart thing for any of those countries to do. 00:43:50.180 --> 00:43:50.660 Fuck yeah. 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:58.540 We lived in a universe for 80 years where, you know, the U.S. 00:43:58.660 --> 00:44:00.380 Was the arsenal of democracy. 00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:02.800 Yep. That was the phrase that was used multiple times. 00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:08.540 And so lots of countries grew up essentially under our protection. 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.140 And you can argue that they should have been defending themselves all along. 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:20.100 But the fact is that by extending this umbrella, the U.S. 00:44:20.420 --> 00:44:27.160 Produced a sort of peaceful zone that was able to develop rapidly. 00:44:27.620 --> 00:44:32.200 Europe was able to recover from World War II. Japan was able to recover from World War II. 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.720 Other areas in that umbrella were able to move forward faster than most of the rest of the world. 00:44:38.620 --> 00:44:41.980 And it was the Pax Americana, right? 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:46.920 But it wasn't just that. It gave you significant advantages economically. 00:44:47.340 --> 00:44:51.480 The fact that the U.S. dollar has been the reserve currency. 00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:56.160 All of these damn things are interrelated, Sam. 00:44:56.300 --> 00:44:57.760 All of them. 00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.760 And this is what these idiots are not seeing. 00:45:00.580 --> 00:45:03.800 Well, and the key point they're not seeing as well is like Donald Trump views 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.960 all this as like, why were we giving away all this shit for free? 00:45:07.710 --> 00:45:14.110 But you weren't giving it for a way for free, you asshole. That's the prison. You fuck out. 00:45:14.590 --> 00:45:17.810 We got all kinds of benefits out of this. 00:45:18.150 --> 00:45:24.010 Like, yes, these other countries benefited as well. But there's no comprehension 00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:28.670 in someone like Donald Trump that everything isn't zero sum. 00:45:28.970 --> 00:45:34.650 If we help out if we help out Japan or Germany, we must be hurting ourselves. 00:45:34.650 --> 00:45:43.090 No, there's a such thing as a relationship where we can do something that benefits them and us. 00:45:43.930 --> 00:45:48.750 And, and that was what was happening. You know, this, and I know there are people 00:45:48.750 --> 00:45:51.630 who are like, you know, American hegemony was not good. 00:45:51.910 --> 00:45:56.770 There are all kinds of bad, you know, colonialist things and everything else. 00:45:57.030 --> 00:46:00.610 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I get it. It wasn't perfect, but let me tell you something. 00:46:00.810 --> 00:46:06.150 You know what? But this is the same shit that I heard from all of us going into 00:46:06.150 --> 00:46:09.510 Iraq and saying that we're bringing down Saddam because we're going to bring 00:46:09.510 --> 00:46:13.270 like pieces, you know, this Jeffersonian democracy over there. 00:46:13.490 --> 00:46:17.570 Ask them if they preferred how the fuck it was under God, under Saddam. 00:46:17.870 --> 00:46:21.870 And Saddam was not. And so that was way worse than the United States is. 00:46:22.070 --> 00:46:23.150 Let me tell you something. 00:46:23.970 --> 00:46:27.150 Most Iraqis still to this day that were alive back then say, 00:46:27.350 --> 00:46:28.850 fuck this. Give me back Saddam. 00:46:30.390 --> 00:46:37.910 That's the shit that we're talking about right now And so, yeah Was it perfect? No, 00:46:38.790 --> 00:46:45.990 But the alternative where we're basically ushering in a new fucking global arms 00:46:45.990 --> 00:46:49.890 race now in 2025 is way worse. 00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:52.990 Well, not just the global arms race, 00:46:52.990 --> 00:46:59.270 but also if every country in the world is forced into sort of fend for yourself, 00:46:59.270 --> 00:47:05.970 transactional one-on-one interactions with others, it's just inherently very unstable. 00:47:06.390 --> 00:47:08.130 Yes. I mean, that is... 00:47:08.130 --> 00:47:08.670 Extremely so. 00:47:08.790 --> 00:47:16.230 This is why the pre-World War II world had so many wars. 00:47:16.650 --> 00:47:18.510 Was like a constant, like. 00:47:18.790 --> 00:47:19.390 Yes. 00:47:20.210 --> 00:47:23.010 Wars were the norm. The peaceful. 00:47:23.290 --> 00:47:23.730 Wars were their own. 00:47:24.210 --> 00:47:26.910 Yes. And wars between major powers. 00:47:27.250 --> 00:47:27.650 Yes. 00:47:27.890 --> 00:47:32.490 We've sort of, for the last 80 years, frozen them. 00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:36.710 Now, have there been wars in various countries and these proxy wars? 00:47:36.870 --> 00:47:38.690 Absolutely. You just listed Iraq. 00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:41.530 We go back further. We had Vietnam, Korea. 00:47:41.870 --> 00:47:45.170 We've had wars all over the world that we weren't involved in, 00:47:45.310 --> 00:47:48.350 although for a lot of them, we stuck our fingers in one way or another. 00:47:48.530 --> 00:47:54.950 There have been plenty of wars, but there have not been the flat out straight like, hey. 00:47:55.790 --> 00:48:00.010 Germany is going to invade France and try to expand its borders, 00:48:00.010 --> 00:48:04.150 you know, like we had in World War II and a bunch of other countries, 00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:05.390 too, obviously, not just France. 00:48:05.390 --> 00:48:10.710 Whereas what we're normalizing here again is Russia saying, yeah, 00:48:10.890 --> 00:48:13.970 we want Ukraine. We're going to just take over. 00:48:14.150 --> 00:48:16.370 And we're allowing that. 00:48:16.790 --> 00:48:23.250 And not only that, hell, Donald Trump's out there talking about like Greenland 00:48:23.250 --> 00:48:27.850 and Panama and Canada and blah, blah, blah. It's all part of the same thing. 00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:32.850 It's part of saying, like, we want to go back to the world where all of this 00:48:32.850 --> 00:48:37.170 stuff is in flux. And it's just like whoever's strongest gets what they want. 00:48:37.470 --> 00:48:42.710 You know, again, you can say you can make really good arguments that the quote 00:48:42.710 --> 00:48:49.730 unquote rules based international order was fixed to sort of help the major 00:48:49.730 --> 00:48:52.930 Western powers and shit on everybody else. 00:48:53.070 --> 00:48:58.890 And maybe you'd have a point in some areas. but it also had significant advantages. 00:48:59.610 --> 00:49:00.350 Benefits, yes. 00:49:00.750 --> 00:49:03.790 Over just everybody's all out for themselves. 00:49:04.330 --> 00:49:07.710 Everybody is just armed to the teeth. Look, it's the same thing as the problem 00:49:07.710 --> 00:49:13.250 that we've got with, like, whatchamacallit, gun control in the U.S. 00:49:13.790 --> 00:49:14.290 Mm-hmm. 00:49:14.610 --> 00:49:17.570 Are we safer because everybody is armed to the teeth? 00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:18.730 No. 00:49:19.390 --> 00:49:24.650 No! Is the world going to be safer because everybody's now going to go and get armed to the teeth? 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.360 So much more dangerous. Like the odds of, 00:49:30.540 --> 00:49:33.940 well, I mean, people, people always talk about the odds of like world war three 00:49:33.940 --> 00:49:40.580 or something, but the odds of just more regional conflicts and big ones, 00:49:40.720 --> 00:49:43.000 big ones is going up dramatically. 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.920 Like, and, and there are a number of nuclear powers involved. 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.140 So, you know, that, that may happen too, but even absent that, 00:49:51.380 --> 00:49:53.240 like with this kind of stuff going on. 00:49:53.940 --> 00:50:00.800 You know, hell, you know, Turkey and Greece have had territorial disputes for like decades, right? 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.220 Over like Cyprus and crap like that. 00:50:04.100 --> 00:50:06.940 What's to stop one of these from eventually being, oh, you know, 00:50:07.060 --> 00:50:08.420 well, let's just do something. 00:50:08.780 --> 00:50:14.940 Hell, I just saw a news story flow by like right at the beginning of this show 00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:22.120 about how our lovely defense secretary is apparently warning Mexico that we 00:50:22.120 --> 00:50:25.840 won't warn them if we do military strikes on cartels. 00:50:26.040 --> 00:50:29.600 We're just going to do it if we feel like it's necessary in Mexico. 00:50:30.340 --> 00:50:43.480 You know, and what? You know, so the risk to the world has gone up significantly. 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:49.640 Like of small scale conflicts, medium scale, large scale, And, 00:50:49.660 --> 00:50:51.460 yes, of World War III, too. 00:50:52.720 --> 00:50:58.200 Now, maybe it'll turn out the U.S. and Russia are on the same side of that one. I don't know. 00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.800 And we both decide to nuke France because they're going against us. I don't know. 00:51:05.080 --> 00:51:07.120 I'm hoping not that far. 00:51:07.340 --> 00:51:08.860 Okay, let's try that thing. 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.580 Nuke the uk instead not france leave france okay well. 00:51:16.580 --> 00:51:20.620 I mean did we get in are we gonna i mean now that you're talking about that 00:51:20.620 --> 00:51:23.140 so what are we are we restarting the wars of fact. 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:29.140 Well well this this goes to the other thing like you know you we mentioned europe 00:51:29.140 --> 00:51:33.280 having to arm up and europe having to figure out what to do about ukraine without 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:38.600 us because we're clearly not going to help the natural like extension of this 00:51:38.600 --> 00:51:42.300 is you know even if even if nato doesn't dissolve tomorrow, 00:51:42.560 --> 00:51:44.900 which by the way, you know, Trump keeps talking about it. 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.840 I would not be surprised at all if he exits the U S from NATO at some point. 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:54.620 But yeah, Europe having to like figure out, okay, 00:51:55.260 --> 00:52:00.900 what are we doing now that the U S is an adversary too is, 00:52:01.380 --> 00:52:04.640 you know, they're, they're going to have to make their own pact separate from 00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:08.160 NATO about what they're going to do and how they're going to coordinate and 00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:13.100 all of this kind of stuff and they'd be stupid not to by the way. 00:52:13.100 --> 00:52:19.140 There is a somebody has a montage of clips where trump in the campaign guaranteed 00:52:19.140 --> 00:52:22.020 that he will end the war in ukraine. 00:52:22.020 --> 00:52:23.560 In 24 hours 24. 00:52:23.560 --> 00:52:25.140 Hours of taking office. 00:52:25.140 --> 00:52:26.320 It wouldn't. 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:30.760 Even be tough for him to do and that everyone will be happy sam. 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.500 Everyone everyone is clearly happy was. 00:52:34.500 --> 00:52:35.580 Trump happy today. 00:52:36.600 --> 00:52:41.120 I'm not sure what emotion to attribute to him, but... 00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:45.160 Yeah, it's true. Who the hell knows what the fuck emotions are inside that monster. 00:52:46.220 --> 00:52:50.340 Lord. I don't... I gotta be honest. I don't know. 00:52:51.660 --> 00:52:56.820 If you... One thing that is really disturbing about him, I've never seen him laugh. 00:52:58.060 --> 00:53:03.860 You realize how fucked up that is? A man that cannot laugh. 00:53:03.860 --> 00:53:10.780 Do you know what kind of a miserable fucking prick you have to be you can't 00:53:10.780 --> 00:53:16.860 laugh that is such a horrible existence and I hope it ends soon, 00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:19.760 by a heart attack. 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.220 Just to be clear you're not encouraging anything. 00:53:23.220 --> 00:53:34.000 No by a heart attack his cholesterol spikes oh well damn Yeah, too bad. 00:53:35.120 --> 00:53:40.980 So anyway, it's a mess and it's getting worse. And I don't think we're in, 00:53:41.140 --> 00:53:46.680 I mean, what, what are we six weeks in seven weeks in something like this? 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:53.020 Like not even like we're, we're not even at the a hundred day mark. 00:53:53.020 --> 00:53:58.060 We're not at the a hundred day. Like we're not at a hundred day mark. And good news, Sam. 00:53:58.480 --> 00:53:59.000 Yes. 00:53:59.740 --> 00:54:06.280 Atlanta fed Zen on a forecast today. Basically, at this point, 00:54:06.520 --> 00:54:10.260 they're basically, with all the shit that Trump's done, that we're probably 00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:13.720 going to be in negative growth in Q1. 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:18.380 Right. Because everybody's retreating. Everything's uncertain. 00:54:19.120 --> 00:54:20.560 It's not just that. 00:54:20.900 --> 00:54:21.660 Inflation's up. 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.380 Listen, last year, seeing Alice talk about today, one of the biggest drivers 00:54:27.380 --> 00:54:32.400 last year of economic growth had been government spending. 00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:37.680 Government spending from, you know, Inflation Reduction Act and all these other 00:54:37.680 --> 00:54:39.360 things that Biden had put in place or whatever. 00:54:39.620 --> 00:54:43.160 And so this guy has taken a wrecking ball to that. 00:54:43.980 --> 00:54:49.100 And by the way, unemployment claims, we just had the worst week of unemployment 00:54:49.100 --> 00:54:53.740 claims that we've had in a long time. I mean, this son of a bitch. 00:54:54.060 --> 00:54:56.480 What percentage of that is the federal firings? 00:54:57.580 --> 00:54:59.480 It's it's not clear okay. 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:00.440 All right but. 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:06.800 But this stupid bastard can't even take a good economy and keep it running properly. 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.400 It's i yeah all you have to. 00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:11.640 Do is not fuck it up. 00:55:11.640 --> 00:55:14.840 Well it almost seems intentional to 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.840 be honest it's like at this point yes you you are you are 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:21.420 doing stuff that every reputable 00:55:21.420 --> 00:55:24.480 economist says is bad 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:27.480 yes and and will hurt 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.900 the economy overall now look you 00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:35.080 you can argue like oh okay yeah we need to to make some improvements in what 00:55:35.080 --> 00:55:39.220 the federal government do is doing it's too big etc blah blah blah but like 00:55:39.220 --> 00:55:46.260 everything combined oh and we haven't even mentioned like the the uh the tariffs 00:55:46.260 --> 00:55:50.020 are supposed to come into effect what tuesday this coming Tuesday, 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.780 and now who knows you may back off again before we get to Tuesday but you know 00:55:55.780 --> 00:56:00.340 Canada's already announced their retaliation plans you know this is, 00:56:02.180 --> 00:56:07.480 now of course before Donald Trump was sworn in and Elon Musk was already talking 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:13.600 about this stuff he said oh yeah this will be painful but it'll be good in the long run. 00:56:13.600 --> 00:56:18.560 Yeah Elon explain to me what the fuck is the good in the long run because the 00:56:18.560 --> 00:56:22.820 stupid budget that your bozos are doing, okay? 00:56:23.340 --> 00:56:28.560 Oh, because we're going to get all these deficit reduction. There is no deficit reduction. 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:34.380 We're only doing a whole bunch of tax cuts for the rich and fucking everybody else. 00:56:35.500 --> 00:56:39.520 How is that going to help the economy? Big fat zero. 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:45.700 You know why? Today, one of the things that one of the articles I shared on 00:56:45.700 --> 00:56:49.420 the curmudgeon court of slack was an article in Bloomberg Businessweek talking 00:56:49.420 --> 00:56:53.980 about how right now in the last year. 00:56:53.980 --> 00:57:02.840 And this also, look, this got stimulated by a lot of the moves that Republicans 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:08.600 forced on Biden after Republicans took control of the House, 00:57:09.020 --> 00:57:16.160 okay, where they cut a number of programs that were helping, 00:57:16.160 --> 00:57:18.260 you know, lower income people. 00:57:18.260 --> 00:57:23.960 Remember the first year for a while, we had those child tax credits that were 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.420 going to a lot of people, okay, and other things. 00:57:27.640 --> 00:57:31.840 And all these fuckers went and said, and there was like help with like, 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.640 whatchamacallit, he was trying to help people with child care assistance and other shit. 00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:41.000 Well, who the fuck does that help, Sam? Does that help billionaires? 00:57:41.940 --> 00:57:44.880 Of course, they need free child care too. 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.260 Right. No, that helped people lower income. 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.980 So what's happened right now is that even with the economy improving, 00:57:53.380 --> 00:57:56.860 as that money got pulled back from a lot of lower income people, 00:57:57.680 --> 00:58:01.860 But the economy had been doing very well and upper income people had been doing very well. 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:08.380 The percentage of spending that was by the top 10 percent of Americans had been 00:58:08.380 --> 00:58:14.240 has reached like a peak that is just not not it's not good. 00:58:14.540 --> 00:58:18.260 OK, it's like people that make over two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year. 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.300 Basically, what the article said, it's like we're shooting we're shooting, 00:58:21.500 --> 00:58:25.000 you know, we're shooting cannons of money at the economy. OK, 00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:29.280 but but the other people are not spending as much, man. 00:58:29.540 --> 00:58:36.000 And everything that Trump is doing is only going to make that way worse because 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.900 that's what's in this fucking budget. 00:58:38.180 --> 00:58:42.620 It's to make all those people even poorer, way poorer. 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.600 Right. But who cares? Who cares about those fuckers, Yvonne? 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:50.500 Well, you know, apparently nobody. But hey, good news, though. 00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:58.460 Trump supporters also lost $12 billion as the president's cryptocurrency. Guess what happened? 00:58:59.160 --> 00:58:59.640 Why? 00:58:59.860 --> 00:59:00.280 It collapsed. 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.760 Oh, wait. So I should check my account. This is bad, right? 00:59:04.980 --> 00:59:05.880 Yeah, this could be bad. 00:59:06.120 --> 00:59:09.760 I put all my money in that Trump coin stuff. That and hock to a girl. 00:59:10.460 --> 00:59:11.480 And that and a hock to a girl. 00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:12.260 Yeah. 00:59:12.500 --> 00:59:19.360 Of course, I wasn't the guy with the account at Citibank that got mistakenly credited $81 trillion. 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.020 Dollars i i that would 00:59:22.020 --> 00:59:25.600 be nice you know i mean 81 trillion dollars 00:59:25.600 --> 00:59:28.400 you want to talk about a bank here let me tell 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:32.700 you you know all i mean all i needed look i all i have to do is he got to keep 00:59:32.700 --> 00:59:38.720 it right wired yeah well no not really no i mean not like he could have you 00:59:38.720 --> 00:59:45.080 know somehow wired 1 billion somewhere to some some country without extradition 00:59:45.080 --> 00:59:47.540 this is the first thing i needed to No. 00:59:47.860 --> 00:59:51.100 But, but speaking of like pulling money back from stuff like that, 00:59:51.260 --> 00:59:56.740 one of the things that the Trump administration has been doing and they've gotten 00:59:56.740 --> 01:00:01.000 slapped down by a couple of courts, but apparently are still doing it anyway. 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:09.120 There was $20 billion or so worth of money that had already been distributed 01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:13.180 by the inflation reduction act to various. 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.120 Oh, and they're trying to claw it back. Yeah. 01:00:15.120 --> 01:00:18.620 They're trying to claw it back they they the 01:00:18.620 --> 01:00:21.900 the whoever they're 01:00:21.900 --> 01:00:24.880 trying to send the justice department after them actually to like 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:30.220 do an investigation the justice department they they they tried to get one of 01:00:30.220 --> 01:00:34.820 the career people to do it they quit rather than do it so the it's ridiculous 01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:36.980 so the trump appointee and they 01:00:36.980 --> 01:00:43.680 quit with a a a resignation letter saying There's no legal basis for it. 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.080 There's no crime here. There's no legal basis. 01:00:47.080 --> 01:00:50.680 And so the Trump appointee submitted a... 01:00:51.490 --> 01:00:56.510 A request for a warrant to the judge directly himself. The judge said, 01:00:56.710 --> 01:01:01.830 no, there's no legal basis for this because they were requesting to freeze all 01:01:01.830 --> 01:01:04.830 these accounts that this money had been distributed into. 01:01:05.210 --> 01:01:10.370 And the judge said, no, absolutely not. But apparently some of the owners of 01:01:10.370 --> 01:01:14.850 those accounts who would receive the money through those accounts are reporting 01:01:14.850 --> 01:01:17.530 that some of them are actually frozen anyway, 01:01:17.830 --> 01:01:21.750 presumably because the government also went straight to the bank and asked them 01:01:21.750 --> 01:01:27.930 to freeze it and the bank did at least in some cases so you know so this is 01:01:27.930 --> 01:01:30.510 not only like with the usa id stuff but. 01:01:30.510 --> 01:01:35.290 But this is like but this is the crazy shit that i'm talking about at fucking with the economy sam. 01:01:35.290 --> 01:01:35.970 Yeah why. 01:01:35.970 --> 01:01:39.890 The fuck they're going into like i mean this is just idiotic shit. 01:01:39.890 --> 01:01:42.310 Well by the way and the problem is it doesn't. 01:01:42.310 --> 01:01:43.410 Even help the deficit. 01:01:43.410 --> 01:01:49.750 No i i just wanted to say this, like with the, there's several layers of what 01:01:49.750 --> 01:01:53.430 they're trying to do that are more and more illegal as you go. 01:01:53.610 --> 01:01:59.010 The first is just saying, Hey, let's stop doing things in the future. 01:01:59.530 --> 01:02:03.690 Now, if those are things where the executive department has discretion, 01:02:04.090 --> 01:02:06.430 okay, you can stop doing them in the future. 01:02:06.770 --> 01:02:11.510 But then there's all sorts of things that are mandated by law, 01:02:11.570 --> 01:02:13.890 and they're saying, we're not going to do it anyway. 01:02:14.470 --> 01:02:17.830 And stopping that is clearly illegal. 01:02:18.030 --> 01:02:23.450 But then you move on to not only programs that are authorized by Congress, 01:02:23.690 --> 01:02:29.070 but programs authorized by Congress where the spending had already been authorized 01:02:29.070 --> 01:02:30.550 and in the pipeline, where you're. 01:02:32.540 --> 01:02:37.680 From going out that had already been promised. And then this is even further. 01:02:37.900 --> 01:02:44.260 You're trying to pull back money that was already given out, that was already paid. 01:02:44.600 --> 01:02:51.660 And as you go through those, those are all illegal, but it's sort of more and 01:02:51.660 --> 01:02:54.120 more egregious as you go down that spectrum. 01:02:54.120 --> 01:03:01.080 And, you know, the key element here, and we have, you know, we've mentioned 01:03:01.080 --> 01:03:06.200 they are already violating court orders of federal courts. 01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:13.000 None of this has yet gone to SCOTUS and had SCOTUS disagree and then they violate that. 01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:18.860 But this is already like a regular, normal occurrence. 01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:24.400 Yeah. They're violating court orders on a regular basis now. 01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:28.420 This is not something that you would see in other administrations. 01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:33.420 If you did, it was a rarity and it was quickly corrected. 01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.080 Because it's one thing to say, oh, okay, we respect the court, 01:03:38.200 --> 01:03:39.240 but we're going to appeal. 01:03:39.700 --> 01:03:43.480 This is like, we're going to ignore their court while we appeal. 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:44.400 Right. 01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:46.440 That's an entirely different thing. 01:03:46.820 --> 01:03:47.660 Right, right, right. 01:03:47.660 --> 01:03:50.420 And, and it's already happening more and more. 01:03:50.580 --> 01:03:53.540 And again, like we said, we're, we're what, what, six weeks in, 01:03:53.700 --> 01:03:57.100 this is going to get worse and worse and worse. 01:03:57.540 --> 01:04:04.200 I don't see how it gets better under these circumstances for a long time. 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:10.680 I mean, because I don't know, like, do you see Trump like magically saying, 01:04:10.860 --> 01:04:15.000 oh, you know, actually the court said, no, I guess we can't do it. 01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:21.540 Nevermind. Like the whole setup of his administration this time around is to 01:04:21.540 --> 01:04:24.860 make sure there is nobody around him who will say no. 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:31.340 And that's where we are. Okay, let's take another break. 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:37.200 And then I'll have a little bit to talk about, and then we can get out of here. Both of us are tired. 01:04:37.700 --> 01:04:38.940 Yeah, yeah. 01:04:39.300 --> 01:04:40.040 Here we go. 01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:45.200 Alex. 01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:29.300 Okay. So the thing I am going to pick is prompted by the fact that MSNBC fired 01:05:29.300 --> 01:05:32.460 a bunch of people this week and reshuffled others. 01:05:32.660 --> 01:05:36.820 But I think it's, and my topic is larger than that, because I think it's emblematic 01:05:36.820 --> 01:05:41.640 of a whole bunch of things that we've been seeing ever since the election in 01:05:41.640 --> 01:05:46.680 terms of media organizations retreating, for the most part. 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.920 There are a few that have stood up, but there are a lot of media organizations retreating. 01:05:51.060 --> 01:05:54.240 So let's talk about MSNBC for a second, just to start it. 01:05:54.360 --> 01:06:03.260 And I'm not going to remember all the names, but the most prominent one was Joy Ann Reed, 01:06:03.340 --> 01:06:10.220 who was an anchor in the evening, and she lost her show and was kicked off the 01:06:10.220 --> 01:06:12.540 network there was another explanation. 01:06:12.540 --> 01:06:16.160 Why did they explain why the the the. 01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:21.520 They're they're they're just revamping and retooling and blah blah blah they're 01:06:21.520 --> 01:06:25.600 they're taking a panel show that's on the weekend and they're gonna make it 01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:29.900 go all week long that has you know uh but but. 01:06:31.220 --> 01:06:33.820 Separately was there a show doing badly. 01:06:33.820 --> 01:06:38.700 Well everything was doing badly i mean and that's that's your fundamental excuse. 01:06:39.040 --> 01:06:49.060 Like both CNN and MSNBC and to an extent, all news, but like was tanking since the election. 01:06:49.220 --> 01:06:52.180 And to some degree, this is normal after every election. 01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:56.800 People, people watch a lot more news in the run up to an election and then they 01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:58.580 sort of tune out for a while. 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.460 But this time it's even more so like you and I have talked on this show before, 01:07:02.680 --> 01:07:07.000 how people, especially on the left, which was MSNBC's target audience, 01:07:07.240 --> 01:07:09.260 decided they just couldn't deal with it. 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:14.840 They had to turn off politics. They had to turn off news because this was just too bad. 01:07:15.080 --> 01:07:18.920 And so, yeah, the ratings have been tanking. There's no question about that. 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.060 So they're trying to figure out how to deal with that. 01:07:21.660 --> 01:07:24.840 However, the way they dealt with that was, 01:07:25.650 --> 01:07:30.050 The people they fired were all the people who weren't white. 01:07:30.690 --> 01:07:31.210 Right. 01:07:31.850 --> 01:07:35.730 You know, and I shouldn't say all the people who weren't white. 01:07:35.950 --> 01:07:40.170 They have like Michael Steele, who is black, was one of the weekend. 01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:45.210 No, but all the people that were almost all the people that were fired were. Yeah, they were not. 01:07:45.710 --> 01:07:52.390 Yeah. Various different ethnicities. There was a weekend host who was very prominently 01:07:52.390 --> 01:07:57.070 like representing Asian Americans and talked about that a lot on her show. 01:07:57.230 --> 01:08:02.690 There was Joanne Reed, who is very prominently black and talking about that there. 01:08:03.050 --> 01:08:08.770 There were, and the other people were all various varieties of non-white. Okay. 01:08:09.850 --> 01:08:13.290 And Rachel Maddow actually called this out on her show afterwards, 01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:16.490 where it was like, you know, this looks bad. 01:08:17.190 --> 01:08:20.830 Like, I think this was a bad decision. These were all great people. 01:08:21.010 --> 01:08:22.190 They were doing a good job. 01:08:22.690 --> 01:08:27.590 Now, some of them more so than others. Like, I like Joy and Reed's show more 01:08:27.590 --> 01:08:29.690 than some of the other people who were let go. 01:08:30.170 --> 01:08:33.310 And Joy and Reed, I think, was the only one who's left the network entirely. 01:08:33.870 --> 01:08:36.810 A couple of others were sort of demoted. They're not going to have their own 01:08:36.810 --> 01:08:41.270 show anymore, but they'll still act as reporters, etc., stuff like that. 01:08:41.950 --> 01:08:47.550 But the people who were let go were also very harsh Trump critics. 01:08:47.790 --> 01:08:50.730 I mean, most of the people on that network are, to be honest, 01:08:50.890 --> 01:08:56.430 but I'd say these were some of the ones that were most—, 01:08:57.790 --> 01:09:00.630 I don't know. I, maybe I shouldn't say that. Cause I, I'm thinking about some 01:09:00.630 --> 01:09:04.990 of the people who are still on and it's not like they're like Trump cheerleaders. 01:09:05.230 --> 01:09:07.230 You know, exactly. It's what I'm saying. 01:09:08.090 --> 01:09:12.910 But, but it looked bad and they're, they're trying, most of the people who are 01:09:12.910 --> 01:09:18.690 getting pushed into new slots, I'm sort of like, they're, they're okay, 01:09:19.490 --> 01:09:22.950 but I would not say they're better than the people they were replacing. 01:09:23.570 --> 01:09:29.910 You know, like this, The overall quality level will go down after this change. 01:09:30.470 --> 01:09:34.930 And again, that's probably enough about MSNBC specifically. 01:09:35.210 --> 01:09:39.030 They're also doing layoffs of behind-the-scenes staff. 01:09:39.370 --> 01:09:42.910 Rachel Maddow pointed out that they're doing all kinds of layoffs and cutting 01:09:42.910 --> 01:09:48.830 the producers and the camera people and all these behind-the-scene people. 01:09:49.450 --> 01:09:56.150 That's getting decimated as well. So they're clearly in cost-cutting revamp mode. 01:09:56.390 --> 01:10:01.270 And, you know, it's quite possible that the people that lost their shows were 01:10:01.270 --> 01:10:03.710 more expensive people, too. Wouldn't be surprised. 01:10:04.510 --> 01:10:06.970 That is the reason why I was asking. 01:10:06.970 --> 01:10:10.850 I'm like, because I was wondering if that was a factor in some way. 01:10:11.090 --> 01:10:15.210 I'm sure it was a factor. Because there's also a reshuffling, 01:10:15.390 --> 01:10:19.350 if I remember right, where they were spinning off some of these, 01:10:19.370 --> 01:10:24.250 the news channel and a couple other things into a separate legal entity and 01:10:24.250 --> 01:10:25.450 some other stuff like that. 01:10:25.770 --> 01:10:29.410 So there's definitely some of that in play as well. 01:10:29.810 --> 01:10:33.370 But I think it's part of this larger pattern than we've seen. 01:10:33.370 --> 01:10:38.590 Because we also had, of course, famously, the Washington Post right before the 01:10:38.590 --> 01:10:40.430 election declined to do an endorsement. 01:10:40.570 --> 01:10:44.270 They were going to endorse Harris and then backed off at the last second. 01:10:44.510 --> 01:10:51.350 They just now, Bezos announced that the editorial page is going to focus on, 01:10:51.490 --> 01:10:54.490 what was it, personal liberty and free trade. 01:10:54.910 --> 01:11:01.890 And that anybody who wants to produce contrarian views on those issues is not, 01:11:02.410 --> 01:11:06.210 can do it somewhere else. They didn't say they'd exclusively do those things, 01:11:06.370 --> 01:11:08.190 but there's going to be an extra emphasis on there. 01:11:08.630 --> 01:11:10.670 The editor there resigned. 01:11:11.470 --> 01:11:19.510 The New York Times has done some things. There have been a number of outlets. 01:11:19.670 --> 01:11:25.250 Oh, CNN fired a couple of people too, and a couple of people left because they were being asked to... 01:11:25.250 --> 01:11:37.930 Basically, the key is on all of these news outlets, they don't want to be seen as 100% anti-Trump. 01:11:38.270 --> 01:11:44.750 They don't even want to necessarily, like they can't even pretend to just be like, 01:11:45.070 --> 01:11:51.750 hey, we're fair neutral down the middle because the way the Trump administration 01:11:51.750 --> 01:11:56.190 is operating is if you say anything bad about him, they're going after you. 01:11:56.450 --> 01:12:00.910 And they've made it clear that they're doing that. They're locking the AP out 01:12:00.910 --> 01:12:04.270 of White House events because they won't say Gulf of America. 01:12:05.270 --> 01:12:10.890 All of this kind of stuff. And I think a lot of these companies, 01:12:11.250 --> 01:12:16.510 because this is not necessarily true of some of the smaller independent outlets, 01:12:16.730 --> 01:12:22.270 but all of these companies that are part of megacorporations and just have sort 01:12:22.270 --> 01:12:30.090 of media as one facet of their business, are very cognizant of the fact that, 01:12:30.510 --> 01:12:35.810 hey, we don't want to piss off Trump too much because then he can hurt us in 01:12:35.810 --> 01:12:40.290 other ways, because he can put the thumb on the scale on mergers and acquisitions. 01:12:41.230 --> 01:12:44.430 There are all kinds of ways he can make their lives miserable. 01:12:44.670 --> 01:12:51.750 This is why you also saw several media outlets settle on where Trump had sued 01:12:51.750 --> 01:12:56.610 them for libel for things that they had done that was perfectly legitimate reporting 01:12:56.610 --> 01:13:00.030 and would probably win in court, but they settled anyway. 01:13:00.570 --> 01:13:02.090 Because it's just, 01:13:02.980 --> 01:13:09.180 not wanting to make waves and not wanting to antagonize. And I feel like it's 01:13:09.180 --> 01:13:14.520 not like none of these places are publishing anti-Trump stuff at this point. 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:19.020 It's not reached that point. But they are clearly pulling their punches a little 01:13:19.020 --> 01:13:20.920 bit and are a little intimidated. 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:27.680 And that is not healthy. And this is also part of the standard authoritarian 01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:32.780 playbook for taking over a country is you neuter the press. 01:13:32.980 --> 01:13:35.780 And sometimes it's very overt. 01:13:36.080 --> 01:13:40.780 Sometimes it's more like this. You just make it very difficult for those press 01:13:40.780 --> 01:13:43.280 outlets that do anything that you don't like. 01:13:43.820 --> 01:13:47.860 And you increase that pressure over time and you ratchet it up. 01:13:48.220 --> 01:13:52.520 And it's just, it's disturbing to see play out. 01:13:53.340 --> 01:13:55.120 Any additional thoughts, Yvonne? 01:13:56.080 --> 01:14:06.400 What else can I add to that? It's a fucking, you know, it's, yeah, he, he, he is. 01:14:07.120 --> 01:14:15.740 The thing is that I feel that in many cases, it's more like we don't want to tangle with him. 01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:23.260 So we're just, we're, we're just gonna, you know, we just, we just want to avoid 01:14:23.260 --> 01:14:26.100 the conflict. You know what I'm saying? 01:14:26.820 --> 01:14:30.860 They're basically they're being scaredy cats. 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:31.800 Yeah. 01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:35.300 I just think it's just ridiculous. 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.320 You mentioned something about the New York Times. The reality is that I don't 01:14:39.320 --> 01:14:45.460 see that the New York Times has done anything overt like all of these others to be honest. 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:51.080 They've basically pretty much stayed on whatever the hell course they were. Bloomberg for example. 01:14:51.460 --> 01:14:52.260 They haven't done shit. 01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:56.780 As a matter of fact I know that Michael Bloomberg did certain things specifically. 01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:01.020 Wait, wait, wait. Let me say, even on the New York Times, even on the New York 01:15:01.020 --> 01:15:06.320 Times, even when they report a story that is highly negative to Donald Trump, 01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:11.960 the headline tends to be neutered and couched in neutral language. 01:15:13.040 --> 01:15:16.740 And they, I'd say they pull their punches too. 01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:20.220 Trump and bans berate Ukrainian leader in Oval Office. 01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.820 I'm reading the new york times headline on that one by the way look 01:15:24.820 --> 01:15:29.540 i listen but i'm sorry but i will say this new york times has a history of doing 01:15:29.540 --> 01:15:33.860 that yeah the entire time they've done that for years absolutely so so you know 01:15:33.860 --> 01:15:39.480 they've been criticized why aren't they more aggressive in their headlines and 01:15:39.480 --> 01:15:43.040 i'm like you know what to be fair that's the way they've written a headline 01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:44.300 as far as i can fucking remember, 01:15:45.670 --> 01:15:50.690 And so, you know, take it for what you take it to whatever you want. 01:15:50.830 --> 01:15:52.090 You don't like it. I get it. 01:15:52.290 --> 01:15:55.870 But, you know, the New York Times doesn't also want to be the New York Post. 01:15:57.050 --> 01:15:57.410 Yes. 01:15:57.890 --> 01:16:01.410 And that's and that's how you wind up and using that other language. 01:16:01.770 --> 01:16:03.610 It's that's how you turn into the fucking New York Post. 01:16:06.370 --> 01:16:10.770 I, you know, that's just reality. And I get it that, you know, 01:16:10.850 --> 01:16:12.190 you want to say, well, it's a different time. 01:16:12.310 --> 01:16:13.730 It's a different person or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, 01:16:13.790 --> 01:16:16.570 blah. But, well, that's what you get. 01:16:16.850 --> 01:16:21.890 Look, another guy who is a very rich billionaire who also has keen business 01:16:21.890 --> 01:16:28.490 interests, Bloomberg, he basically hasn't done a fucking thing to kowtow to him at all. Nothing. 01:16:29.210 --> 01:16:35.750 You know, and he's basically, you know, he hasn't gone and told the line. 01:16:35.750 --> 01:16:40.750 As a matter of fact, hell, he went and he paid which dues that were due to a 01:16:40.750 --> 01:16:44.390 global organization he paid because Trump decided not to pay him. 01:16:44.430 --> 01:16:45.490 I can't remember which one it was. 01:16:45.630 --> 01:16:49.690 I can't remember if it was a World Health Organization or one of those we pulled out. 01:16:50.230 --> 01:16:52.550 Bloomberg went and wrote the check for the U.S. dues. 01:16:53.590 --> 01:16:53.710 Nice. 01:16:53.810 --> 01:16:56.370 So he basically, not just that, he said, F you. I'll pay. Oh, 01:16:56.450 --> 01:16:58.510 you're not going to pay the dues? I'll pay the dues out of my pocket. 01:17:00.370 --> 01:17:03.150 So I'm like, and Bloomberg is like, yeah, you want to come after me? 01:17:03.210 --> 01:17:04.690 Come the fuck after me. Fuck this shit. 01:17:04.850 --> 01:17:06.670 You know, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? 01:17:06.990 --> 01:17:08.850 What do you think? You're Putin? What? 01:17:09.510 --> 01:17:11.830 Right. Well, he wants to be. 01:17:12.150 --> 01:17:13.810 He wants? No, I know he wants to be. 01:17:14.530 --> 01:17:21.790 He wants to be. I would not be shocked if some prominent liberals over the next 01:17:21.790 --> 01:17:26.090 three years don't end up falling out of windows. I'm just saying. 01:17:26.870 --> 01:17:33.230 You know, I'm not predicting it. I'm just saying I would not be surprised. 01:17:33.230 --> 01:17:41.150 Look i i do think uh listen i i will i will say it a little bit differently 01:17:41.150 --> 01:17:46.930 but we've said this already there will be escalating political violence yeah 01:17:46.930 --> 01:17:51.410 that's just look this entire thing honestly. 01:17:51.410 --> 01:17:53.150 Probably in both directions but. 01:17:53.150 --> 01:17:57.710 In both directions there is going to be escalating political violence. 01:17:57.910 --> 01:18:04.650 There is no way that all of this doesn't unleash that, as well as the military 01:18:04.650 --> 01:18:07.970 buildup we're talking about, as well as everything else. Look, 01:18:08.350 --> 01:18:11.190 it's affecting everything, everywhere. 01:18:12.750 --> 01:18:18.370 You know, even at a state level, it is affecting things. 01:18:19.330 --> 01:18:22.850 You know, I was just at a dinner table tonight earlier talking about it. 01:18:23.030 --> 01:18:27.110 All the things that we were just talking about is how, just again, 01:18:27.650 --> 01:18:31.630 how people's demeanor in general. 01:18:32.890 --> 01:18:37.730 And I also think that the pandemic had certain effects on that as well, 01:18:37.750 --> 01:18:45.990 in terms of the anger levels in general and how people are treating each other in general. 01:18:47.010 --> 01:18:53.890 And what companies are doing, how companies are treating employees in general. 01:18:53.890 --> 01:18:59.410 There has been this pendulum swing from during the pandemic where, 01:18:59.410 --> 01:19:04.950 you know, employers, you know, employees had a much bigger upper hand on employers. 01:19:04.950 --> 01:19:08.090 And now it's like totally the other way. 01:19:08.330 --> 01:19:16.750 And then and people are just copying what they see from our leaders in in many places. 01:19:17.430 --> 01:19:23.230 And the saying is, you know, they just copycat this shit. They think, 01:19:23.330 --> 01:19:25.890 oh, you know, they're doing it, then we should do it that way, too. 01:19:27.210 --> 01:19:33.550 Now, a lot of this bending the knee on, like, DEI, for example, 01:19:33.970 --> 01:19:36.250 he can write whatever the fucking thing. 01:19:36.370 --> 01:19:41.050 He can't really force the companies to do much of anything. But a lot of companies 01:19:41.050 --> 01:19:43.670 have just decided, you know, to just bend the knee. 01:19:44.010 --> 01:19:47.990 Now, others didn't, and they said, well, look, if the law says that we've got 01:19:47.990 --> 01:19:50.010 to tweak something, we'll tweak something. 01:19:50.690 --> 01:19:57.750 You know but but i see so many that are just rolling over and that's the thing 01:19:57.750 --> 01:19:58.930 that's a little bit scary is. 01:19:58.930 --> 01:20:03.750 That is that easy rolling over this is the whole thing about i think was it 01:20:03.750 --> 01:20:09.090 tim snyder is the author who you know had the guidebook of fighting authoritarianism 01:20:09.090 --> 01:20:13.770 or whatever it is i should i should look up the proper name hold on. 01:20:17.420 --> 01:20:22.780 Oh, but before I forget, I just saw this quote. This was regarding Zelensky. 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:26.660 No, we talked about that, that Trump thinks this is all a reality TV show. 01:20:27.100 --> 01:20:31.840 This is going to be great television. Trump sums up his Zelensky showdown. 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:38.120 Yes. Yes. It's, it is Timothy, Timothy Snyder. 01:20:38.120 --> 01:20:47.520 Uh, and he has a, a variety of books that I'm looking for the name of on tyranny, 01:20:47.540 --> 01:20:49.240 I think is the one that this is from, 01:20:49.360 --> 01:20:55.400 from 2017, but like number one rule, don't obey in advance. 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:58.520 Right. It's the number one rule. 01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:04.700 And, and this is, this is what people are doing. I mean, it's rolling over. 01:21:05.380 --> 01:21:10.720 Yeah. Yeah, it's just like, oh, how can we avoid getting on Trump's bad side? 01:21:10.900 --> 01:21:17.260 Let's figure out what we can do right now that'll keep us off his radar, keep him happy. 01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:19.800 And yeah. 01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:26.340 Here is my recommendation. Just don't be Mark Zuckerberg. Don't be Mark Zuckerberg. Change that. 01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:30.560 They should change that as the first rule. 01:21:31.020 --> 01:21:35.120 Don't be Mark Zuckerberg. Don't be Zuck. I did see a video today. 01:21:35.940 --> 01:21:43.080 Of him ripping off a suit and having a gold lame outfit underneath it for his 01:21:43.080 --> 01:21:44.400 wife's birthday or something. 01:21:44.660 --> 01:21:50.420 What the fucking hell? Jesus Christ. Sounds great. 01:21:51.540 --> 01:21:56.340 I'll have to share that. But, yeah. 01:21:56.440 --> 01:21:58.440 Okay, I'm going to summarize all of this. 01:21:58.500 --> 01:21:59.720 Yeah, summarize everything. 01:22:00.380 --> 01:22:04.340 This all fucking sucks to all fucking hell. 01:22:04.340 --> 01:22:07.740 And we are only 01:22:07.740 --> 01:22:11.000 not even 40 days 01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:21.340 into this fucking thing so my prediction which now sam knows pain why you know 01:22:21.340 --> 01:22:29.460 sam had no idea that that was a pop culture reference not until the last couple of weeks well. 01:22:29.460 --> 01:22:36.980 I i i like out in in in response to the pain thing yvonne shared a gif or a 01:22:36.980 --> 01:22:38.580 video clip or something of mr. 01:22:38.580 --> 01:22:40.480 Video clip somebody. 01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:46.360 Asking mr t for predictions and he said pain and i was like wait a second this isn't. 01:22:46.360 --> 01:22:48.720 Just an yvonne thing no this. 01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.220 Exists and apparently it's from it was. 01:22:51.220 --> 01:22:54.260 Rocky three movie rocky three okay three 01:22:54.260 --> 01:22:57.880 mr t was this boxer called 01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:03.660 clubber lang okay and who was vicious and he was yeah he was asked about what 01:23:03.660 --> 01:23:08.620 was his predictions were for the fight okay between him and rocky and says predictions 01:23:08.620 --> 01:23:14.660 yeah prediction and he said pain and look unfortunately mr t, 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:18.920 If we asked him right now what his prediction is and what we're going through 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:21.300 right now, his prediction is accurate. 01:23:21.900 --> 01:23:22.400 Yeah. 01:23:22.820 --> 01:23:27.360 And everybody's getting fucked. Hey, by the way, you know what? Here's the kicker. 01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:31.980 This is equal opportunity fucking right now because these idiots are so fucking 01:23:31.980 --> 01:23:33.920 dumb. I gotta tell you something. 01:23:34.360 --> 01:23:37.580 Tesla stock keeps plummeting like a fucking rock. Okay? 01:23:37.700 --> 01:23:38.340 Uh-huh. Yep. 01:23:39.060 --> 01:23:45.880 Mr. Genius over there has pledged a lot of those shares for margin loans. Okay? All right. 01:23:46.360 --> 01:23:51.700 At some point, if that thing doesn't stop, he's going to have a fucking margin call. 01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:54.740 He's going to get fucked. OK. All right. 01:23:55.060 --> 01:23:56.580 If that would be fun, that would be fun. 01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:02.620 You know, this keeps happening. OK, because the amount of money that he has, nobody can. 01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:06.660 You know, this is not like Donald, that somebody could just throw him up a billion 01:24:06.660 --> 01:24:08.100 here, billion there, bail him out. 01:24:08.620 --> 01:24:13.360 This is several hundred more billion dollars. OK. All right. 01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:16.420 There ain't nobody big enough to bail his ass out, okay? 01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:22.000 So let's see what the fuck he keeps doing. Because, look, all the financials 01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:28.780 are pointing that this quarter for Tesla will be an unmitigated disaster, 01:24:29.240 --> 01:24:31.140 okay, of epic proportions. 01:24:31.580 --> 01:24:37.160 Something like you probably haven't seen any company shit the bed as bad after 01:24:37.160 --> 01:24:42.000 being successful for a long time in a product and having some difficulties last year. 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:47.740 And then all of a sudden, you're going to be thrown into a massive loss over 01:24:47.740 --> 01:24:49.940 being a massive asshole. 01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:50.860 Yeah. 01:24:51.910 --> 01:24:57.150 And we'll see what the fuck happens with that. Because then shit starts getting complicated. 01:24:57.310 --> 01:25:03.930 Because Tesla, as cars, had a few issues here and there, but overall were popular. This is Musk. 01:25:04.630 --> 01:25:06.510 Right. Yeah. 01:25:06.570 --> 01:25:13.470 This is not independent of him. This is all reaction to how he's behaved the last couple of years. 01:25:13.850 --> 01:25:15.370 Yeah. And so. 01:25:15.770 --> 01:25:20.410 Now, you mentioned Musk. I thought you were just going to talk about just general 01:25:20.410 --> 01:25:25.710 Donald Trump voters who are now getting screwed by the policies of the guy they voted for. 01:25:25.750 --> 01:25:29.530 Well, wait until those guys start getting fucked, okay? 01:25:30.270 --> 01:25:33.870 Because then those guys are going to be angry. This is the reason I predict 01:25:33.870 --> 01:25:36.110 a lot of violence. One thing somebody said today. 01:25:36.550 --> 01:25:42.070 I'll tell you something. The two people, the people that tried to take shots 01:25:42.070 --> 01:25:47.230 at Donald Trump were both Donald Trump supporters, okay? 01:25:47.790 --> 01:25:53.190 Let me tell you something. You get one of these arm-to-the-teeth guys that finds 01:25:53.190 --> 01:25:58.370 out how his health care is getting cut, how his shit is getting cut, 01:25:58.470 --> 01:26:00.210 and how he's going to get fucked. 01:26:00.230 --> 01:26:04.190 And their family that had, you know, a military job got fired, 01:26:04.190 --> 01:26:05.970 who was a veteran, bah, bah, bah. 01:26:06.190 --> 01:26:10.550 All of this shit cascades on one of these guys. Let's see, one of these guys is going to pop. 01:26:11.810 --> 01:26:14.750 Yeah this is that because this is the 01:26:14.750 --> 01:26:22.010 he he has totally hyper inflated and made these guys hyperventilated how he 01:26:22.010 --> 01:26:28.130 was going to be his their savior and their savior is going to come and fuck 01:26:28.130 --> 01:26:33.570 them and they're going to snap i already have a couple of times yeah. 01:26:33.570 --> 01:26:37.310 I i would not be surprised in the slightest i think i think in our prediction 01:26:37.310 --> 01:26:43.110 show we said there'd be at least one more attempt and I think we predicted it would fail, but, 01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:49.280 Yeah, of course, there's going to, of course, somebody like that is going to 01:26:49.280 --> 01:26:55.460 snap and go after him or people surrounding him or Elon or somebody, 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:59.040 which is why, you know, all of these people have massive security details. 01:26:59.040 --> 01:27:04.700 Like there was a report this last week about how Elon's security detail got 01:27:04.700 --> 01:27:09.080 deputized so they could continue to carry their weapons like in the White House 01:27:09.080 --> 01:27:12.120 and within the Secret Service perimeter and stuff like that. 01:27:12.460 --> 01:27:19.800 Because Elon Musk's security detail is second only in size to the president's. 01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:21.700 Jesus fucking Christ. 01:27:22.420 --> 01:27:27.220 Because he knows that, you know, people hate him. 01:27:28.280 --> 01:27:30.700 Gee, Elon, I wonder why. 01:27:31.780 --> 01:27:37.220 Meanwhile, I know all of these folks have some security, but I remember pictures 01:27:37.220 --> 01:27:44.440 a while back of Bill Gates just standing in a line to get fast food somewhere. 01:27:44.700 --> 01:27:46.040 Yeah, in Manhattan. 01:27:47.140 --> 01:27:50.200 I thought it was out here in Seattle. He was in Manhattan. 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:56.580 He was in Manhattan. He was just standing in line getting his food and whatever, saying hi to people. 01:27:56.600 --> 01:27:59.880 You know what? Because, you know, we kind of, we, we, we, we hated, 01:28:00.020 --> 01:28:03.760 we hated Microsoft software, but, but, you know, we weren't like, 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:05.720 we want to kill like Bill Gates, you know? 01:28:06.320 --> 01:28:10.380 Well, and also since he left Microsoft, he's been doing all kinds of good stuff. 01:28:10.700 --> 01:28:11.100 Right. 01:28:11.660 --> 01:28:16.340 Yeah. And we're like, he's one of those billionaires who has, 01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:20.700 you know, he, he picked a point in time and he was like, I'm out. 01:28:20.700 --> 01:28:25.520 And now i'm going to spend the rest of my money rest of my life and. 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:26.560 My money. 01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:32.180 To figuring out the best thing i can possibly do with this money for the benefit of humankind. 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:38.020 By the way one other one other note 01:28:38.020 --> 01:28:41.860 warren buffett who's getting old yeah he 01:28:41.860 --> 01:28:45.180 had his annual like letter to you 01:28:45.180 --> 01:28:48.260 know that he writes to stockholders you know 01:28:48.260 --> 01:28:52.640 basically as an annual report and a 01:28:52.640 --> 01:28:55.660 couple of things just to see how his mind 01:28:55.660 --> 01:29:00.720 is thinking right now they they've sold so much securities they're hold they're 01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:05.380 holding more cash than they had ever had at at berkshire hathaway they're holding 01:29:05.380 --> 01:29:09.940 berkshire hathaway is so much money they they got like a three to four hundred 01:29:09.940 --> 01:29:14.660 But like four hundred billion dollars in cash right now, just sitting in books. 01:29:14.900 --> 01:29:17.560 OK, they've never held that much in their life. 01:29:18.420 --> 01:29:25.160 And he basically, without saying Trump's name, basically just ripped them to 01:29:25.160 --> 01:29:31.060 shreds, saying that everything that they are doing is just, you know, stupid. 01:29:33.370 --> 01:29:38.730 You know, from tax policy to tariffs policy to what they're doing with the government. 01:29:39.030 --> 01:29:42.410 I mean, he just completely tore tore him to shreds. 01:29:44.650 --> 01:29:49.870 Now, so for that's worth, I mean, he's not a dumb fuck. 01:29:50.030 --> 01:29:55.490 And he basically agreed with, you know, what every other economist has said 01:29:55.490 --> 01:29:59.970 that this is we're just inflicting pain to just inflict pain. 01:29:59.970 --> 01:30:04.470 These guys are just, right now, they're going to inflict pain to inflict pain. Mr. 01:30:04.870 --> 01:30:11.530 I'm going to have the strongest economy ever right now is going to hit us again 01:30:11.530 --> 01:30:16.230 with the last quarter of negative growth that we had since he was president. 01:30:18.550 --> 01:30:19.730 Stumble genius, Sam. 01:30:20.330 --> 01:30:21.270 Yvonne, it's Biden's fault. 01:30:21.810 --> 01:30:26.710 Of course, yes, it's Biden's fault. Yes, yes, it's Biden's fault. It's all Biden's fault. 01:30:27.030 --> 01:30:27.530 Yes. 01:30:28.890 --> 01:30:34.010 Okay i want to go like i want to you know i i get i would like to do one thing 01:30:34.010 --> 01:30:38.230 i would like to share an ice cream cone with joe biden before he passes away 01:30:38.230 --> 01:30:42.590 seriously yeah i would love to buy him a cone. 01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.320 Well, you know, head out to Wilmington. He's probably just hanging out these days. 01:30:47.460 --> 01:30:51.380 You know what? That wouldn't be such a bad idea. Let's go. 01:30:51.900 --> 01:30:55.840 I mean, it's probably a little bit more locked down than Jimmy Carter was. 01:30:55.980 --> 01:31:00.540 But you remember, for decades, Jimmy Carter was just hanging out in Plains, Georgia. 01:31:00.740 --> 01:31:05.940 And if you visited Plains, you could meet Jimmy Carter. 01:31:05.940 --> 01:31:12.200 Like he had his Sunday school class that he taught every Sunday that hundreds 01:31:12.200 --> 01:31:16.200 of people would show up to just because Jimmy Carter was teaching the class. 01:31:16.540 --> 01:31:19.720 You know, I'll go over there and like, say, hey, Joe, do you want to have a 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.620 coat? I'll get you an ice cream coat. Let's chat. 01:31:24.360 --> 01:31:30.340 Give him a hug. Yeah. Okay. I think we're done. I think we're done. 01:31:31.100 --> 01:31:37.300 Thank you all for joining us again. As usual, you can go to curmudgeons-corner.com 01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:43.120 and see all of our information. 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You should join us. The more the merrier. 01:33:57.280 --> 01:34:01.380 In the meantime, Yvonne, what was something from the curmudgeons corner slack 01:34:01.380 --> 01:34:07.680 that was so compelling that it would make people want to give us money and join the slack? 01:34:08.420 --> 01:34:11.500 Or Fyre Fest 2. Oh, yes. 01:34:11.740 --> 01:34:17.880 It makes sense for 2025. Fyre Fest 2 reveals alleged ticket sales. 01:34:18.160 --> 01:34:23.800 Wasn't there already a Fyre Fest 2 that fell apart? Like, and so this is actually a third attempt? 01:34:24.380 --> 01:34:24.980 Maybe. 01:34:25.300 --> 01:34:30.960 I think I vaguely remember them already trying to promote a Fyre Fest 2. 01:34:30.980 --> 01:34:32.940 It is his grand second attempt. 01:34:33.420 --> 01:34:36.000 Okay. Second attempt at Fyre Fest 2. 01:34:36.340 --> 01:34:36.940 Right. 01:34:37.440 --> 01:34:39.720 Because there was already a failed Fyre Fest 1. 01:34:40.280 --> 01:34:47.960 Right. Yeah. So you've got another Fyre Fest going on, which I guess makes sense for 2025. 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.960 But that's one thing. I got a couple of things that happened in here. 01:34:52.260 --> 01:34:57.520 Yes. I mean, we didn't make an honorable mention because it's in here. Gene Hackman died. 01:34:58.200 --> 01:35:04.100 Yep. And I also mentioned that Michelle Treckenberg, how do you say her name? 01:35:04.100 --> 01:35:05.000 Oh, God, yes. 01:35:06.080 --> 01:35:11.620 Last week, we started talking about characters that disappeared from shows. 01:35:11.620 --> 01:35:17.540 And I mentioned that on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a character just randomly showed up. 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:20.320 And it was her as a sister to Buffy. That's right. 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.420 It was her. And she died this week. 01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:28.800 Official cause of death hasn't been announced yet, but she'd recently had a liver transplant. 01:35:29.340 --> 01:35:29.580 Apparently. 01:35:29.860 --> 01:35:34.180 Apparently, it was having complications. I saw a couple of reports that people 01:35:34.180 --> 01:35:40.620 who knew her said she knew she wasn't well and that death was a possibility. 01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:41.900 Yeah, it sucks. 01:35:42.120 --> 01:35:44.320 She's so young. Yeah, 39. 01:35:44.740 --> 01:35:51.600 39. Yeah. And a couple of other things. Skype is shutting down on May 5th. 01:35:52.110 --> 01:35:54.870 We used to use that to record the show for years. 01:35:55.070 --> 01:35:55.330 That's right. 01:35:55.830 --> 01:35:56.370 You know? 01:35:56.530 --> 01:35:56.830 Yes. 01:35:57.050 --> 01:35:58.590 We stopped a long time ago. 01:35:58.770 --> 01:35:59.910 Because it sucked. 01:36:00.590 --> 01:36:03.610 A lot of other people stopped using it too. 01:36:03.970 --> 01:36:09.190 So, I mean, it got bad, bad, but worse. 01:36:09.410 --> 01:36:12.290 And they didn't really upgrade it or update it. 01:36:12.650 --> 01:36:15.410 And it just, it finally died. 01:36:15.610 --> 01:36:18.770 And they lost their, like, the big opportunity would have been the pandemic 01:36:18.770 --> 01:36:21.250 to really jump in and blah, blah, blah. But no. 01:36:21.250 --> 01:36:26.230 Well, the thing is that they had rolled out, well, but the thing is that they 01:36:26.230 --> 01:36:28.070 have really replaced Skype with Teams. 01:36:28.110 --> 01:36:29.770 I know, Teams, yes, yes. 01:36:29.950 --> 01:36:31.190 And so that's the thing. 01:36:32.270 --> 01:36:35.310 And that is, and, you know, lots of people use that. 01:36:35.790 --> 01:36:41.930 I've never used Teams. I think I maybe have one call I had on it once when for 01:36:41.930 --> 01:36:43.450 something, I don't even remember what. 01:36:43.450 --> 01:36:48.530 And I'm going to confirm this, but it seems it is correctly, 01:36:48.830 --> 01:36:58.310 that 25 years ago, Steve Jobs changed the path of the PC forever by introducing Mac OS X. 01:36:59.170 --> 01:37:03.570 And to realize, Sam. 01:37:03.570 --> 01:37:05.270 That it's been 25 years. 01:37:05.610 --> 01:37:06.910 25 years ago! 01:37:10.470 --> 01:37:11.870 Holy shit! 01:37:12.550 --> 01:37:12.890 I remember. 01:37:12.970 --> 01:37:15.910 I thought about it. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. 01:37:16.090 --> 01:37:20.930 I remember installing the beta as soon as it was available. 01:37:21.130 --> 01:37:25.990 Think about this. Imagine if we had been, I mean, if in 2000 we were still using, 01:37:26.150 --> 01:37:29.530 like, I don't know, a desktop operating system from 1975. 01:37:32.410 --> 01:37:36.630 Well, it has evolved quite a bit in the last 25 years. 01:37:36.630 --> 01:37:42.410 It definitely has, but still, many of the things that you look at it, the dock. 01:37:42.610 --> 01:37:45.790 Well, actually, if you think, wait, wait, but wait, if you think about it, 01:37:45.910 --> 01:37:49.410 macOS is built on top of Unix, which is from 1960s. 01:37:49.410 --> 01:37:54.010 Which actually is from 1960s, yes. That is true. The basis of all of this, 01:37:54.130 --> 01:37:57.230 yes, is Unix, which is from the 1960s, yes. 01:37:57.650 --> 01:38:05.550 Which I did use, but, you know, so anyway, yeah, macOS 10 is 25 years old. 01:38:06.290 --> 01:38:09.170 Totally shit okay one more thing 01:38:09.170 --> 01:38:12.290 from the slack that i just want to point out that i 01:38:12.290 --> 01:38:15.850 mentioned on the show a couple minutes ago and then immediately shared on the 01:38:15.850 --> 01:38:20.690 curmudgeon course slack that if you were a member you would see the fact that 01:38:20.690 --> 01:38:29.870 i shared it is the video of mark zuckerberg stripping off the suit into the gold lame suit thanks. 01:38:33.530 --> 01:38:34.850 And what was this? 01:38:35.470 --> 01:38:38.730 Well, the video came out today. I think it was for his wife's birthday. 01:38:38.730 --> 01:38:40.330 So I think it was like very recent. 01:38:41.860 --> 01:38:46.000 Oh, that is so. Okay. I'll. 01:38:47.420 --> 01:38:50.260 I'm never doing that. I can guarantee you that one. 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:52.700 Even for your wife's birthday, Yvonne. 01:38:53.300 --> 01:38:54.000 If she. Okay. 01:38:56.140 --> 01:39:01.060 If she insisted that's what I. She wanted me to do. Then. Maybe. 01:39:01.340 --> 01:39:06.700 So apparently it was imitating. I guess it was Benson Boone. 01:39:07.180 --> 01:39:13.360 Did this at the Grammys a few weeks ago. And that was one of her favorite artists 01:39:13.360 --> 01:39:17.140 and she liked that performance. So he imitated it. 01:39:17.460 --> 01:39:23.260 There you go. So yeah, I, okay. If, if my wife demanded it, then maybe. 01:39:25.120 --> 01:39:27.940 Okay. I'll, I'll have to call her up and make a request. 01:39:28.080 --> 01:39:29.300 Oh no. What am I doing? 01:39:29.620 --> 01:39:33.680 Make sure that it gets videoed. We'll put it on Tik TOK. 01:39:34.700 --> 01:39:37.480 So that's how you're going to get the podcast to get more traction. 01:39:37.480 --> 01:39:44.020 We're getting Yvonne in a gold LeMay suit with an open chest area. You know? Oh, fuck. 01:39:44.180 --> 01:39:45.940 Jesus Christ. Okay. 01:39:46.420 --> 01:39:48.480 Very sort of Savvy Discos looking thing. 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:51.180 Disco looking thing. I hate the gym harder than I've been doing. 01:39:51.460 --> 01:39:55.740 I actually, you know, I will say that I actually, I've gotten, 01:39:56.120 --> 01:39:58.100 you know how bad it is how much I traveled? 01:39:58.300 --> 01:40:01.840 I'll tell you one thing I had to do. I had to buy a gym membership down there. 01:40:02.500 --> 01:40:04.380 Okay. Very good. 01:40:06.420 --> 01:40:12.360 That's how bad it is I'm like oh god fine I went and I They won't accept It's 01:40:12.360 --> 01:40:16.860 a chain It's Orange Theory Fitness They have a location there But they won't 01:40:16.860 --> 01:40:18.540 accept my membership From, 01:40:19.650 --> 01:40:24.810 from here. And I'm like, so I was paying for classes, but then the lady was 01:40:24.810 --> 01:40:28.390 like, come on, let's say you pack of classes. What are you doing? 01:40:29.030 --> 01:40:32.750 And I've been like resisting that because I felt kind of like defeated this 01:40:32.750 --> 01:40:36.570 how long I'm going to be here that I'm actually buying like, 01:40:36.730 --> 01:40:40.970 like a pack of, and I'm like, okay, fine. 01:40:41.090 --> 01:40:43.650 You're right. Okay. Here, sell me the pack of classes. 01:40:44.430 --> 01:40:45.830 Okay. I think we're done. 01:40:45.830 --> 01:40:46.570 We're done. 01:40:47.530 --> 01:40:51.330 Thanks, everybody, again. Stay safe. Have a good week. 01:40:52.770 --> 01:40:58.550 Tell your friends. Make them listen to the show. Tie them down and force them to listen to the show. 01:40:58.630 --> 01:41:00.650 Oh, that's a way to get listeners. 01:41:01.110 --> 01:41:05.410 That's the way. You know, they will love us and not be able to get enough. 01:41:05.950 --> 01:41:09.110 Anyway, we're done. We'll talk to you next time. Goodbye. 01:41:09.550 --> 01:41:11.750 Bye. Bye. 01:41:40.610 --> 01:41:43.830 Okay good night yvonne bye okay. 01:41:43.830 --> 01:41:44.330 Bye, 01:41:46.670 --> 01:41:47.790 Thank you.