WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:02.670 Can you hear me? Hello? 00:00:03.370 --> 00:00:04.570 You can't hear me? 00:00:05.530 --> 00:00:08.790 I can hear you. 00:00:10.170 --> 00:00:10.930 Excellent. 00:00:12.270 --> 00:00:13.790 Very well. 00:00:15.750 --> 00:00:18.610 That's beautiful. That's amazing. 00:00:18.950 --> 00:00:21.270 I don't know about that. Let's not go crazy here. 00:00:22.290 --> 00:00:28.010 You know, we were talking last week about our inevitable Grammys. So, you know. 00:00:28.530 --> 00:00:29.330 Ha ha ha! 00:00:31.810 --> 00:00:33.650 Uh yeah well. 00:00:33.650 --> 00:00:36.890 Okay shall we just go yeah. 00:00:36.890 --> 00:00:40.590 Well i uh i i captain. 00:00:40.590 --> 00:00:46.410 I i i i our nose nose your ear, 00:00:49.010 --> 00:00:51.770 okay i'm i'm i'm hitting the button, 00:01:16.050 --> 00:01:21.330 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, February 22nd, 2025. 00:01:22.210 --> 00:01:26.650 It's just after 1930 UTC as we're starting to record. I am Sam Minter, 00:01:26.730 --> 00:01:28.310 Yvonne Boas here. Hello, Yvonne! 00:01:29.490 --> 00:01:30.010 Hello! 00:01:31.750 --> 00:01:36.430 Very exciting. So, usual thing, we're going to do a butt first with some less 00:01:36.430 --> 00:01:37.670 newsy topics at the beginning. 00:01:38.190 --> 00:01:43.170 I got a TV show this time, and maybe a couple other things to mention, 00:01:43.190 --> 00:01:45.970 I don't know. And then, I don't know what Yvonne's got. 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:51.290 And then after we have the non-newsy stuff, we'll have two segments of, 00:01:51.530 --> 00:01:53.290 like, and that'll be a show. 00:01:53.510 --> 00:01:54.910 I hate the news. Yes. 00:01:55.810 --> 00:01:57.250 I fucking hate the news. 00:01:57.650 --> 00:02:01.750 Should we restructure everything and just talk about, like, I don't know, 00:02:01.870 --> 00:02:05.070 gardening or something? I know nothing about gardening. 00:02:05.410 --> 00:02:08.670 I don't know much. You know, that's one thing I'm terrible at. 00:02:08.730 --> 00:02:11.270 I know that you need dirt, seeds. 00:02:11.310 --> 00:02:13.130 Well, you could do hydroperilizers. 00:02:13.550 --> 00:02:16.810 You might not need dirt. Well, you know, yeah. I mean, you know, 00:02:16.910 --> 00:02:20.330 I say that I don't know anything. 00:02:20.330 --> 00:02:26.030 And a couple of months ago, when I went to Epcot for decades, 00:02:26.350 --> 00:02:29.370 they have had this tour called Behind the Seeds. 00:02:29.950 --> 00:02:35.310 Behind the Seeds. So there is this area, I guess that's my butt first, now great, beautiful. 00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:39.190 There's this area that is at Epcot called The Land. 00:02:39.490 --> 00:02:43.570 And just shockingly, by the way, just absolutely shockingly, 00:02:44.270 --> 00:02:45.910 your butt first is Disney related. 00:02:46.470 --> 00:02:50.710 Yeah, but that's because you brought up gardening, planting. shit. 00:02:50.990 --> 00:02:58.690 So look, Epcot used to be almost exclusively focused on education. 00:02:58.950 --> 00:03:03.310 Now there's a lot of it really tilts towards entertainment. 00:03:03.530 --> 00:03:07.130 But originally it was to learn about technology. 00:03:07.590 --> 00:03:10.890 It was like a permanent World's Fair was the original brief form. 00:03:10.910 --> 00:03:14.090 Basically, yes. Yeah, learn about the countries, learn about the cultures, 00:03:14.450 --> 00:03:15.970 you know, all that kind of stuff. Okay. 00:03:16.450 --> 00:03:20.150 You do still do some of that, but that focus is, 00:03:20.810 --> 00:03:26.930 significantly less but one of the things that's remained there is this area 00:03:26.930 --> 00:03:31.250 in the land even though they've replaced they added like some stuff that's not 00:03:31.250 --> 00:03:35.070 educational but there's still a lot of educational stuff there and there is 00:03:35.070 --> 00:03:37.830 this one boat ride where you go through and they show you, 00:03:38.790 --> 00:03:44.450 farming techniques how they have evolved over time okay right you know modern 00:03:44.450 --> 00:03:48.370 farming techniques they show you how they use hydroponics they show you how 00:03:48.370 --> 00:03:51.330 they grow stuff without soil. 00:03:51.650 --> 00:03:52.150 Right. 00:03:52.530 --> 00:03:57.430 You know, they have a research lab that they show you how they are testing different 00:03:57.430 --> 00:04:01.830 methods, how to, you know, do stuff without using any pesticides, 00:04:01.830 --> 00:04:03.770 for example, using natural, 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.920 combatants, like certain bugs and certain things. And they keep always said, 00:04:11.040 --> 00:04:16.500 hey, if you want to know even more about it, there is this tour called the Behind the Seeds Tour. 00:04:17.140 --> 00:04:22.520 That takes you in depth and what we do, you know, to cultivate this stuff. 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.200 So I had heard about this tour for, I will say, decades. 00:04:26.620 --> 00:04:30.720 Never signed up for it. You always have to sign up in advance. Right. 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:36.840 You know, it gets booked up. And so if you don't sign up, if you get there, 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.540 like that week, you'll, you won't get a spot. 00:04:39.860 --> 00:04:40.300 Right. 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:46.000 So sometime last year, my wife had been saying, Hey, I want to take that tour 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.260 because she, she does love to plant, do stuff. 00:04:49.640 --> 00:04:54.140 She, she does have a green thumb. Okay. All right. I'm like you and me. Okay. 00:04:54.520 --> 00:04:58.700 So she, yeah, I'm pretty much, I'm not. 00:04:58.940 --> 00:05:01.660 There's a plant behind me in my office. There are two plants behind me in my 00:05:01.660 --> 00:05:08.120 office that actually are still alive despite my best efforts. Like, you know. 00:05:08.220 --> 00:05:08.860 Are they plastic? 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:13.600 No, they are not plastic. Okay. One of them is in bad shape right now. 00:05:13.820 --> 00:05:16.640 The other one is getting by. 00:05:17.060 --> 00:05:21.060 My wife got me very hardy plants because I will forget they exist. 00:05:22.780 --> 00:05:25.640 Alex helps remind me to occasionally water them. 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.920 But, like, it's alive. And this one replaces another plant that had lasted for 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.060 years and years and years, but I finally killed. 00:05:33.780 --> 00:05:38.540 Well, look, I have accidentally, for example, at my mom's house, 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.980 she would leave town and say, hey, water the plants. 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:45.220 I accidentally watered plastic plants more than once. 00:05:45.660 --> 00:05:48.660 I thought you were going to say you forgot and killed them, but yeah. 00:05:48.880 --> 00:05:54.980 No, no, I watered them, but I, you know, she had some real, very real looking 00:05:54.980 --> 00:05:58.360 plastic plants. And I watered the damn, my mom was like, hey, 00:05:58.880 --> 00:06:01.660 you watered the damn plastic plants. Well, they looked real. 00:06:03.060 --> 00:06:03.400 Yes. 00:06:03.500 --> 00:06:03.860 Okay. 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.300 Back to the tour. Back to the tour. 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:10.860 So she said, hey, I'm going to sign us up for the tour. 00:06:11.280 --> 00:06:16.640 A few months back then, we were planning this trip to go during the end of the year. 00:06:16.780 --> 00:06:19.500 We were going like around New Year's. 00:06:19.640 --> 00:06:24.760 We were going to go between Christmas and, you know, during New Year's around those days. 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:30.560 Then, unfortunately, my wife, she booked us, got us all three tickets to go. 00:06:30.760 --> 00:06:32.080 And then she got sick, if I remember. 00:06:32.540 --> 00:06:34.420 Well, she ruptured her Achilles tendon. 00:06:34.500 --> 00:06:36.080 So she couldn't go. That wasn't sick. 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:41.860 So she was the one that, well, yes, so she's the one that was really cool about going. 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.100 But she wound up not being able to go on the trip. So I wound up, 00:06:46.340 --> 00:06:50.100 I did go, Manu and I did go on and take the tour. 00:06:50.780 --> 00:06:54.920 And, you know, they showed us all, you know, how it was one, 00:06:55.100 --> 00:06:57.920 you know, there are many interesting things that they showed us. 00:06:58.180 --> 00:07:02.720 There was one area where you went in where they showed where they basically 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.440 like harvested these bugs. 00:07:04.440 --> 00:07:12.940 That these bugs were natural enemies of some other bug that came in and would 00:07:12.940 --> 00:07:17.600 regularly attack their, you know, their plants. 00:07:18.460 --> 00:07:18.500 Okay. 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:25.060 And so instead of pesticides, they managed to somehow harvest these bugs that 00:07:25.060 --> 00:07:29.120 they could go and then let, you know, and that otherwise were not, 00:07:29.220 --> 00:07:31.740 you know, harmful in any other way. 00:07:31.740 --> 00:07:37.560 And they would go in and they would let them out in there and they would naturally 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:45.060 take care of these other bugs that were spoiling the stuff that they were growing. 00:07:45.320 --> 00:07:49.180 So that was like interesting. They also showed you what I said about dirt. 00:07:49.460 --> 00:07:52.160 Look, they had this entire system where they showed basically, 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:54.900 hey, you don't really need dirt at all. 00:07:55.440 --> 00:07:59.240 We could feed the water and the nutrients in like minute doses. 00:08:00.320 --> 00:08:03.500 You know we we control the air we control 00:08:03.500 --> 00:08:06.400 the light everything you know we could 00:08:06.400 --> 00:08:09.400 in here we could grow whatever the hell we need 00:08:09.400 --> 00:08:19.240 and the way that we do it consumes like so so much fewer resources than traditional 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:25.840 farming in any way so yeah so they they did walk us through that the entire 00:08:25.840 --> 00:08:29.160 tour showed us their fish. They have fish farms too. They showed us those. 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:37.040 But yeah, so I did learn something. I'm not an expert in any way, shape or form. 00:08:38.460 --> 00:08:42.220 But enough so that we could pivot the whole show to that topic, right? 00:08:42.620 --> 00:08:48.560 Yes, we'll do two hours of hydroponic planting methods. 00:08:48.820 --> 00:08:52.020 You know what the other thing is? My wife during the pandemic, 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.040 this was like a very popular thing. 00:08:54.040 --> 00:09:00.020 At best buy they were selling the this this little little kit where you bought 00:09:00.020 --> 00:09:07.460 these pods and it had lighting and it automatically like fed it water whatever for you to grow like, 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:13.860 indoor like vegetables but you could grow lettuce tomatoes this kind of stuff 00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:17.980 okay right okay and she got this kit and she was using it for a while and as 00:09:17.980 --> 00:09:19.600 a matter of fact she was eating the lettuce, 00:09:20.060 --> 00:09:23.940 I kind of like refuse to eat that lettuce I must admit it looked fine I think 00:09:23.940 --> 00:09:25.300 I may Have eaten it once or twice. 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.260 We've got an apple Tree in the front yard. 00:09:29.260 --> 00:09:31.900 Every year it. 00:09:31.900 --> 00:09:38.040 Produces Apples my mother Comes over and has Taken some of the apples and eaten 00:09:38.040 --> 00:09:42.560 them And said they're absolutely fine apples I am scared of the apples I'm. 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:43.160 Like why. 00:09:43.700 --> 00:09:48.840 I'm like apples are supposed to come from the grocery Store not some fucking plant in my yard. 00:09:48.840 --> 00:10:00.440 Oh i have picked apples and i have i have helped make fresh apple pies using 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:06.600 those apples at some point while i was at summer camp many many decades i'm sure these. 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:10.860 Apples are fine i have no idea what variety of apple they are because obviously like. 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:14.360 There's a huge variety i mean i wouldn't be worried about an apple i mean i 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:19.000 was just you know these green leaves growing indoors i was just like what the 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.980 hell man i'm like i don't know they looked kind of weird at. 00:10:21.980 --> 00:10:26.600 The end of the tour did they offer you the opportunity to eat stuff they grew. 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.320 Well here is the thing they did use that 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.340 produce at the number of restaurants in the that produce 00:10:33.340 --> 00:10:39.140 was used at the restaurants at the at epcot now okay the reality is that because 00:10:39.140 --> 00:10:43.660 it's not that small it's not enough to really like supply the whole place it's 00:10:43.660 --> 00:10:48.700 really more meant like a little like sample but it did They did produce several 00:10:48.700 --> 00:10:50.460 tons of produce, regardless, 00:10:50.640 --> 00:10:53.140 every year, they said. 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:58.420 So it wasn't an insignificant amount, but it's not enough for a place that big, okay? 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.640 But it definitely was a significant amount of food that they produced. 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:03.140 So anyway. 00:11:03.500 --> 00:11:04.780 So anyway, gardening. 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:05.620 That's all I know. 00:11:06.880 --> 00:11:07.400 Amazing. 00:11:08.060 --> 00:11:10.060 And that's all I, I don't know. 00:11:10.060 --> 00:11:13.520 Maybe next time that tree produces apples, I'll get brave and try one. 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.500 I tried once an experiment. Like, you know, did you have to do, 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.120 I mean, you have like a science fair at your school? 00:11:22.760 --> 00:11:24.700 I think at various points, yes. 00:11:25.220 --> 00:11:28.100 I was not very into the science fair thing. 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.700 I must admit. There were other people that were very, very like, 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.080 and then, you know, could go to a national science fair and compete with them. 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:40.360 I was definitely, like, I was into science, but I definitely was never into the science fair thing. 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.440 Like, the only times I ever would have done something like that were when I 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:46.200 was forced, and I don't really remember. 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:51.140 On the science fair topic, though, since you brought it up, I will still bring 00:11:51.140 --> 00:11:54.340 my favorite, I think I probably told this story on the show before, 00:11:54.520 --> 00:11:58.720 but it was my favorite, like, thing that's science fair related. Yeah. 00:11:59.060 --> 00:12:04.400 When my daughter was young, I think it was like sixth grade or something. 00:12:04.700 --> 00:12:10.360 It's like when we, it's the, the year we lived in Florida, they had some science fair thing. 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:17.320 And I forget the one she was doing. She was doing something like on like, 00:12:17.460 --> 00:12:20.460 I don't know, actually it was the year before Florida. 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.840 No, I don't know. Right around that timeframe, whatever. 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:26.720 I think she was doing something on like how blankets work or something. 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:31.680 I forget. But, like, the thing was, we went to— How blankets work? Yes. 00:12:32.300 --> 00:12:33.960 Well, because there's a common misconception— Well. 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.180 I guess that there is, you know, okay? Yeah. 00:12:36.180 --> 00:12:42.520 There's a common misconception that blankets work because the blanket itself is warm. 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.220 Oh, people think that? No, it husbands your own— Right. 00:12:47.400 --> 00:12:47.500 Right. 00:12:47.500 --> 00:12:48.620 It husbands your own heat. 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:53.820 Yes, yes. There are people who, like, feel like the way a blanket— What the hell? 00:12:53.920 --> 00:12:59.000 The blanket is hot? What? It's got batteries in it? What the hell is wrong with you? 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:01.520 Well, there are electric blankets, but that's a whole different thing. 00:13:01.520 --> 00:13:05.660 Well, there are those. Yes, those do exist. Yeah, but if your blanket is not 00:13:05.660 --> 00:13:08.100 plugged into anything, the fucking blanket ain't making heat. 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:13.580 Well, the key was also like you can actually use blankets to keep things cold, too. 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:20.640 Correct. Yes, that's true. Because it will hold in, whether it's heat or cold. 00:13:20.920 --> 00:13:25.860 Right. But the thing is that we generate heat. so you put on a blanket yeah. 00:13:26.260 --> 00:13:33.020 Geez the point was not her project though we got to the science fair where we 00:13:33.020 --> 00:13:39.840 got to view everybody else's and there was one project where somebody had something about, 00:13:41.400 --> 00:13:46.660 It was like about bugs or something. And I completely forget the whole thing 00:13:46.660 --> 00:13:50.280 about like what it was trying to say about bugs, whatever, blah, blah, blah. 00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:56.300 But, you know, like if you're doing a project about bugs, it is not uncommon 00:13:56.300 --> 00:14:01.060 to like have dead bugs pinned to your board. Right. 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.620 So like, you know, you can see somebody doing something about butterflies and 00:14:04.620 --> 00:14:07.540 it's got a bunch of dead butterflies pinned to the board or whatever. Right. 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:16.440 The thing on this one is when you looked carefully, you realized that a couple 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.120 of the bugs that were pinned to the board were still alive. 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:21.160 Oh. 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:27.520 They were pinned to the board and like squirming. Like, ah, get me off. Get me off. 00:14:27.640 --> 00:14:30.400 And the stupid bug was still like alive. 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:31.260 Oh. 00:14:31.640 --> 00:14:34.160 I think it was some kind of roach or something. But like. 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:35.520 Lovely. 00:14:36.300 --> 00:14:41.640 That is like the main thing I remember about this whole incident is this one 00:14:41.640 --> 00:14:44.460 kid at a science project about bugs. 00:14:44.620 --> 00:14:47.900 And like sometimes you'll see a science project about bugs where they're in 00:14:47.900 --> 00:14:50.060 a little terrarium or something and they're supposed to be alive. 00:14:50.180 --> 00:14:52.960 But no, this was the bug was pinned to the board. 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:53.600 They were supposed to be dead. 00:14:53.940 --> 00:15:00.020 It was a bug. Like it had it had like a little needle like shoved right through 00:15:00.020 --> 00:15:04.020 the middle of its body, holding it onto the board. And it was still alive and squirming. 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:06.560 Ew. It's disgusting. 00:15:09.660 --> 00:15:17.000 My science experiment faux pas was dumber. I was not into the damn science experiment. 00:15:17.220 --> 00:15:21.340 I don't know why the hell I said, hey, we put water in the plants. 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:23.120 What happens if we put alcohol in? 00:15:23.420 --> 00:15:26.380 Here's a newsflash. They die. Okay, by the way. 00:15:27.540 --> 00:15:30.860 So, yeah, they don't like alcohol. But here's the one thing. 00:15:30.980 --> 00:15:35.640 So I did this experiment where the experiment. What the fuck experiment? it. 00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:40.040 Look, I went and I got a set of plans. I took a set amount of alcohol. 00:15:40.040 --> 00:15:44.000 I dumped it into them every day and I took pictures of it every day over a number 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.660 of days to see what the hell happened to show the results. Well. 00:15:48.940 --> 00:15:52.460 What problem this is back in the day of film okay 00:15:52.460 --> 00:15:55.440 so i'm i'm taking these pictures and 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.460 i think i'm taking these pictures right and this 00:15:58.460 --> 00:16:01.600 stupid camera is counting that i i'm taking pictures 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:07.500 then i think i'm finished i i go and i'm like look i'm going to i need this 00:16:07.500 --> 00:16:13.380 for i need to go and like get these printed so i need to i gotta i'm gonna i'm 00:16:13.380 --> 00:16:18.620 gonna just whatever i'm gonna rewind to roll even before it's done just so I 00:16:18.620 --> 00:16:21.060 can like, you know, take the pictures. 00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:25.360 So I supposedly do that. I opened the camera. There was no film in the camera. 00:16:25.740 --> 00:16:30.740 I spent 10 days taking pictures with no film in the camera. The fucking camera 00:16:30.740 --> 00:16:33.620 was counting pictures. The counter is stupid. 00:16:34.380 --> 00:16:39.180 The idiotic counter was counting. There's no film! So all of a sudden I'm like, fuck! 00:16:39.420 --> 00:16:42.740 I just did this stupid experiment for this damn thing. 00:16:42.880 --> 00:16:48.300 I wrote up all, I wrote up everything about the daily results and what changes 00:16:48.300 --> 00:16:49.360 or whatever and whatnot. 00:16:49.580 --> 00:16:52.440 And this damn thing now, I have no pictures. 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:58.740 Now what? So I have to go somehow. I believe I somehow, based on my descriptions, 00:16:58.900 --> 00:17:00.900 I faked the goddamn results for the pictures. 00:17:01.920 --> 00:17:04.100 I thought you were going to say you drew them or something. 00:17:04.360 --> 00:17:10.580 No, I went and I just somehow tortured the plants into looking kind of like 00:17:10.580 --> 00:17:12.520 what was happening during the experiment. 00:17:13.140 --> 00:17:17.440 I believe I added a whole bunch of hot water and alcohol like in massive doses. 00:17:19.100 --> 00:17:25.800 And that kind of like killed them like in a day or two. Because I thankfully, I didn't do this. 00:17:26.040 --> 00:17:27.300 This wasn't the night before. 00:17:28.420 --> 00:17:32.600 Thankfully, it wasn't. Okay, so I had a couple of days to try to figure out 00:17:32.600 --> 00:17:33.540 what the fuck. To kill more fuck. 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.160 Yeah, to kill more plants. Yes. Because I had to get new plants to kill them 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.260 because the other ones were already dead. I couldn't kill them again. 00:17:42.540 --> 00:17:50.380 Uh, Beautiful. Okay. All right. My turn. Okay. 00:17:51.490 --> 00:17:55.930 Okay. So, so two things real quick. I am going to, I'm going to talk about bones. 00:17:56.450 --> 00:18:00.430 Bones, bones, bones, like the TV show bones or like the TV show. 00:18:00.650 --> 00:18:06.170 Physical phones, TV show bones. That's my, that's my show of the, the day to talk about. 00:18:06.410 --> 00:18:10.310 But before that, I just wanted to mention, I mentioned this several months ago, 00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:13.010 like in December or something, but I just want to throw it out there again. 00:18:13.010 --> 00:18:16.110 I am looking for career opportunities. 00:18:16.710 --> 00:18:21.630 So if any of our listeners out there are interested in someone like me, 00:18:21.830 --> 00:18:24.450 either from the stuff you hear here on the show. 00:18:24.750 --> 00:18:29.510 Now, listen, just listen to him on the podcast. Don't look at him on video. That's all I'm asking. 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:33.770 No, no, no. He looks decent on video still. Okay. All right. 00:18:33.950 --> 00:18:39.410 You know, you can look at me on video, but maybe this is time for a new career. 00:18:39.410 --> 00:18:46.950 I can be the guy that's being interrogated on law and order because I was like 00:18:46.950 --> 00:18:49.490 the homeless guy who like saw the crime. 00:18:51.630 --> 00:18:58.330 I like this career. You know, you're not you're the guy who plays the homeless, 00:18:58.770 --> 00:19:02.390 you know, and we'll get you like new disguises every week. 00:19:02.530 --> 00:19:05.590 You play the guy who is just the homeless guy. 00:19:05.750 --> 00:19:09.550 I like this career. Listen, if I could figure out a way to get paid like a million 00:19:09.550 --> 00:19:12.390 dollars a year to just be, 00:19:12.570 --> 00:19:16.830 yes, to be the guy who is just the homeless guy on Lauderdale, 00:19:16.830 --> 00:19:22.570 I saw them over there and they were like, oh, my God, I don't know. Well, you know, I lied. 00:19:22.930 --> 00:19:27.630 You know, I've been drinking too much. The meth and ketamine and whatever. 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.460 But I think I remember them. Yeah, there you go. 00:19:33.060 --> 00:19:40.880 What I was going to say is if you have any tips for me for either things like 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:46.960 what you see here, like if you want to hire somebody to yammer endlessly about current events, 00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:51.220 by all means, I'm up for the career change, okay? 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:57.600 Or if you like what I've done with election graphs or Wiki of the Day or anything 00:19:57.600 --> 00:19:59.300 like that, You know, hit me up. 00:19:59.580 --> 00:20:05.100 All the contact information is at the end of the show. Or if you go to abulsme.com, 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:08.200 A-B-U-L-S-M-E dot com slash resume. 00:20:08.540 --> 00:20:12.380 R-E-S. How do you spell resume? R-E-S-U-S-M-E. 00:20:12.760 --> 00:20:16.560 You know, this is showing how good I am and why you should hire me. 00:20:16.560 --> 00:20:17.400 You're a genius. 00:20:17.660 --> 00:20:20.420 Because I'm like, how do you spell resume? Yeah. 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:24.100 Anyway, go there. 00:20:24.800 --> 00:20:28.260 Austin, he's a great writer. I will say this. As I can attest to this, 00:20:28.380 --> 00:20:29.880 he's a very talented writer. 00:20:30.080 --> 00:20:31.340 Oh, I am, okay. 00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:36.400 Yes, you are. Don't confuse his spelling faux pas occasionally, 00:20:36.740 --> 00:20:39.380 Arizona. You write very eloquently. 00:20:40.100 --> 00:20:42.860 Anyway, you can go there to see what I actually do for a living. 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:46.200 It's sort of product program management stuff. 00:20:46.540 --> 00:20:49.660 Officially, I've usually had a technical in front of that, but I actually hate 00:20:49.660 --> 00:20:53.600 the technical part of it, so I would be happy to dump that. 00:20:54.380 --> 00:20:58.260 I know, Yvonne's like, you don't say that. But, you know, whatever. 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:03.740 Yeah, don't say that. You edit that out. Just stop saying what you did. 00:21:04.140 --> 00:21:06.020 Cut that out. What are you doing? 00:21:06.360 --> 00:21:10.060 I would be so much happier without that around my neck. Whatever. 00:21:10.340 --> 00:21:13.300 You're just trying to get to retirement. Shut up. Okay? What are you doing? 00:21:13.860 --> 00:21:15.280 What the fuck's your problem? 00:21:17.380 --> 00:21:24.440 Anyway, if you have any tips, networking, people I should talk to, hit me up. 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:29.340 Contacts on that on that web page or we'll give you stuff on that at the end 00:21:29.340 --> 00:21:33.560 of the show okay now time for bones. 00:21:33.560 --> 00:21:35.560 Bones bones. 00:21:35.560 --> 00:21:38.700 The tv series have you you you you mentioned it. 00:21:38.700 --> 00:21:42.900 Are you familiar have you watched it listen i know what it is i have watched 00:21:42.900 --> 00:21:48.980 a little bit of it but i i am not one that liked watching it like my wife liked 00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:55.460 it so i i mean she would put it on the tv i sometimes would graze around her 00:21:55.460 --> 00:21:58.100 and just, you know, see some of it. 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:02.580 So I know kind of like the actors and how the show works. 00:22:03.040 --> 00:22:07.500 You know, it's one of these investigative procedurals kind of a thing where 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:11.540 the focus is on the forensic analysis, you know. 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.180 Exactly. So, so you've summarized the whole thing. I don't have to say anything. 00:22:16.540 --> 00:22:21.520 No, the first of all, this was one that I, I started it. 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:28.620 I started watching it before I was tracking rigorously when I started. 00:22:28.780 --> 00:22:33.440 So I don't know exactly when I started, but I fit and, and I talk about TV shows 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.380 only when I finished the entire TV show for the most part. 00:22:37.620 --> 00:22:42.340 Like I've made a couple of exceptions here and there, but anyway, I finished it in. 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:53.860 In may may 25th i finished it the thing has 12 seasons it ran from 2005 to 2017 and how many seasons. 00:22:53.860 --> 00:22:55.320 Have you watched again. 00:22:55.320 --> 00:22:59.320 Well i i'm talking about it because i finished all 12 seasons oh. 00:22:59.320 --> 00:23:01.420 You did finish all 12 seasons. 00:23:01.420 --> 00:23:04.760 Yeah wow yeah okay like this is like i 00:23:04.760 --> 00:23:07.700 finished the show and that's why i'm talking 00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:10.340 about it here so like you 00:23:10.340 --> 00:23:13.380 said it's a police procedural blah blah blah blah it's got 00:23:13.380 --> 00:23:16.160 like a forensic forensic anthropologist the main 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.280 character bones uh who's i 00:23:19.280 --> 00:23:23.460 guess the the character's name is temperance brennan but her nickname is bones 00:23:23.460 --> 00:23:30.160 she goes by that and she works with an fbi agent celie booth and they solve 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:35.680 murders and stuff and the focus like you said again is on like they're trying 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:39.220 to figure out who did it by analyzing the remains, 00:23:39.740 --> 00:23:43.880 So that's like, you know, they're like law and order that we'd mentioned in 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.180 passing, you know, that you got the cops out on the street interviewing people 00:23:47.180 --> 00:23:48.760 and stuff. And you get some of that occasionally. 00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:53.660 But the focus here is they figure it out because of the evidence in the body. 00:23:54.850 --> 00:23:58.390 And, uh, anyway, I will say thumbs up. 00:23:58.570 --> 00:24:02.690 I enjoyed this show. I mean, like any show that runs 12 seasons, 00:24:02.690 --> 00:24:07.810 it's got ups and downs and, you know, and at a certain point you're like, 00:24:07.890 --> 00:24:12.130 okay, haven't we done everything we can do with this like set of characters? 00:24:12.510 --> 00:24:15.250 And, you know, they change a few things here and there. 00:24:15.330 --> 00:24:18.810 And sometimes they throw in something big, like, you know, usually it's like 00:24:18.810 --> 00:24:21.390 a mystery of the week kind of thing. But at some point they're like, 00:24:21.470 --> 00:24:25.050 okay, well, you know, we gotta, we gotta up the stakes here. 00:24:25.130 --> 00:24:28.350 Let's have a serial killer who's after the team or whatever. 00:24:28.750 --> 00:24:33.730 Right. Or, or, you know, something else that throws it, throws additional drama 00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:37.930 in or, or something bad happens to one of the main characters or whatever. 00:24:38.830 --> 00:24:44.210 Cause you have to do something to shake these things up if they last this many years. And so, you know. 00:24:45.350 --> 00:24:46.870 Well, I mean, you don't have to. 00:24:47.070 --> 00:24:50.330 Well, look, I, yes, I know we were just again, law and order. 00:24:50.350 --> 00:24:52.030 22 seasons now. 00:24:52.030 --> 00:24:52.730 It took a. 00:24:52.730 --> 00:24:55.670 Break it's back but shaking it out they basically i 00:24:55.670 --> 00:24:58.710 mean it's the same and gumball i mean almost the exact same 00:24:58.710 --> 00:25:04.010 exact formula and and by the way one thing i did find i i did hear i've heard 00:25:04.010 --> 00:25:09.690 this from more from youtubers but i've also heard this mentioned about these 00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:12.670 these kind of tv shows that actually certain 00:25:12.670 --> 00:25:16.750 people whenever they deviated significantly from the formula that's. 00:25:16.750 --> 00:25:17.390 When people leave. 00:25:17.390 --> 00:25:22.710 Oh yeah people get like really pissed off yeah you know that those are like 00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:27.690 the usually the most hated episodes or like you know the least watched videos 00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:33.270 that they put on youtube whatever they they try to deviate significantly from the formula yeah i. 00:25:33.270 --> 00:25:38.910 Mean it it depends and especially for tv shows it depends like sometimes when 00:25:38.910 --> 00:25:45.490 they when a show goes off and does a quote-unquote like creative episode that's. 00:25:45.490 --> 00:25:48.150 Like like uh like they jumped the shark well. 00:25:48.150 --> 00:25:52.590 Like it like a bunch of shows have done like musical episodes there were just. 00:25:52.590 --> 00:25:59.110 Oh that's i i've seen that those are all i always found those utterly bizarre well. 00:25:59.110 --> 00:26:04.470 You know and the thing is they're risky like some of those for some shows are 00:26:04.470 --> 00:26:08.630 well remembered as like oh my god that's a classic episode people loved him 00:26:08.630 --> 00:26:12.890 so much others are like they tried to do something different and they just failed. 00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:16.550 There is the this podcast 00:26:16.550 --> 00:26:19.530 that i do like dad levitard show did do a musical 00:26:19.530 --> 00:26:22.650 okay and actually that actually 00:26:22.650 --> 00:26:25.390 came out really good and and 00:26:25.390 --> 00:26:32.430 it's all related to it's they they did a lot of songs about sports happenings 00:26:32.430 --> 00:26:38.030 things and whatnot etc and i find myself every once in a while just listening 00:26:38.030 --> 00:26:42.730 to it because what they did actually came out really, really, really good. 00:26:43.450 --> 00:26:48.270 So, okay. But for the most part, I'm not big on music. 00:26:49.340 --> 00:26:53.380 Oh, I say that, and you know, I've liked going to see a musical, 00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:58.960 but, but yeah, but I, I do realize that there are, I'm picky about them. 00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:00.840 Okay. It's not like I, I, okay. 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:06.940 I don't blanket hate musicals, but I will say that the majority of the ones 00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:09.360 that I've watched, I haven't liked, but I've liked some. 00:27:10.020 --> 00:27:16.260 Understood. So anyway, my point was, as with any show, my point was, as with any show. 00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:17.940 We're not going to talk about musicals for the next hour. 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:22.140 We're not going to talk about musicals like at, at, at certain points as I'm 00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:26.440 back through the media world and I'm going to do these media reviews again, 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:28.900 there, there are musicals on the list. 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.360 And when we get to them, we can talk about it. 00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:31.720 Okay. 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:36.560 But no, my point on bones was like with any show that lasts this long, 00:27:36.560 --> 00:27:42.740 it has some ups and downs, but I will say I never lost interest. 00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:46.460 Like, you know, a number of months ago, I was talking about finishing House 00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:49.400 of Cards and how, like, it really went downhill fast. 00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:53.240 Oh, my God. Yeah, it started just it just crumbled. 00:27:53.580 --> 00:27:57.960 Like, it was good at the beginning. And then it it crumbled. 00:27:58.520 --> 00:28:00.840 It just just yeah, I won that. 00:28:01.380 --> 00:28:04.200 Yeah, I would say Bones did not do that. 00:28:04.420 --> 00:28:09.260 I mean, I was I liked it all the way through all 12 seasons. 00:28:09.260 --> 00:28:13.820 There are a few places where I'm like maybe you're stretching a little bit but 00:28:13.820 --> 00:28:20.680 for the most part I enjoyed it all a thumbs up for Bones I liked all 12 seasons, 00:28:21.840 --> 00:28:30.880 And 246 episodes total. Apparently there is a show that maybe I'll watch someday 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:35.300 that is like one episode of this series, 00:28:35.580 --> 00:28:41.840 like from I forget which season, was a backdoor pilot for another series that's 00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:42.780 not the same characters. 00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:48.560 Like they had a guest star come in and then the new series is based on that guest star. 00:28:48.760 --> 00:28:52.680 I might watch that somewhere called The Finder, apparently. I guess it didn't 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.520 last anywhere near the 12 years. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.080 It didn't last very long because I. 00:28:57.260 --> 00:29:01.740 Yeah, but whatever, but, but bones itself, you know, thumbs up. 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.720 I enjoyed it. It's, it's fun. If you let, if you enjoy these kinds of procedural 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.540 things with a bit of like the sciencey stuff thrown in. 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.980 Oh, and of course, like, like a lot of these, these, these days, 00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:17.800 there's a lot of it. That's the personal interdynamics of the characters too. 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.300 So it's not just, here's the case. we're going 00:29:21.300 --> 00:29:24.380 to solve the case there's a lot of you 00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:27.140 know how do these characters interact with each other and they 00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:32.200 do evolve somewhat over the course of the 12 years you know so i mean there's 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.380 some core personality elements that there are the same all the way through of 00:29:35.380 --> 00:29:40.840 course but like you know people get together people like break up people like 00:29:40.840 --> 00:29:46.480 have kids like because i mean 12 years is a long time, you know? 00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:52.940 Well, but you, I don't know, but you know, there are, well, we can't do it like in the cartoons. 00:29:53.340 --> 00:29:57.840 Like, you know, Snoopy ran for about 50 years and none of the characters ever grew up. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.280 That is Peanuts, not Snoopy. 00:30:01.040 --> 00:30:02.160 Peanuts. Peanuts. 00:30:02.840 --> 00:30:03.900 Peanuts. Peanuts. 00:30:04.280 --> 00:30:09.080 Yeah, good point. No, they did not grow up. And neither did The Simpsons. You know, The Simpsons. 00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:10.620 Neither are The Simpsons. Right. 00:30:11.320 --> 00:30:14.360 But, like, that's harder to do when you have human actors. 00:30:14.820 --> 00:30:18.380 It is. I've seen some shows that... 00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:18.460 Try. 00:30:19.220 --> 00:30:25.300 Yeah, there have been some shows that you can see that they keep trying not to age the characters. 00:30:25.780 --> 00:30:26.120 Right. 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.740 But that could only go on for a certain period of time. 00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:37.200 Yeah and it works better with like people who are already sort of yeah like 30 yeah exactly. 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.420 But but but you. 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:42.800 Know like you can sort of if you're like characters yeah if you you can sort 00:30:42.800 --> 00:30:52.240 of keep characters from late 20s to late 40s and basically try to ignore their age in the stories you. 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:57.640 Know there there are like i think that there's been some shows where you know 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.160 say they've had like a 10 year old character and they start getting older where 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.660 they've kind of like all of a sudden just swapped them for. 00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:06.080 Some other. 00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:10.680 Kid that was like younger you know like nobody will notice it's a different kid. 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:17.260 Well there was one show i'm not going to remember who it was but it's it's a 00:31:17.260 --> 00:31:23.980 famous instance of oh i think it might have been happy days actually um okay Wait, wait. 00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:26.560 I'm missing a picture. 00:31:26.840 --> 00:31:28.840 I'm checking my references. 00:31:30.260 --> 00:31:34.060 Okay, yes. Chuck Cunningham. 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:35.040 Uh-huh. 00:31:36.760 --> 00:31:41.740 Okay, no. Well, there's several, but Chuck Cunningham is one example of this. 00:31:41.900 --> 00:31:46.120 He was the oldest child in Happy Days. 00:31:46.540 --> 00:31:50.000 Richie Cunningham and Joni Cunningham's older brother. 00:31:50.320 --> 00:31:50.860 Okay. 00:31:50.860 --> 00:31:58.360 He was in the first two seasons. In season three, he was gone and never mentioned again. 00:32:00.540 --> 00:32:03.540 There you go. Just, you know, whatever. He never existed. 00:32:04.100 --> 00:32:10.100 There was, and I believe, let's see, I'm trying to, upstairs, 00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:13.220 I'm just trying to find all these. 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:22.720 Okay, here we are. where Judy from Family Matters was another character. 00:32:23.300 --> 00:32:28.480 So the Family Matters, this is the series that eventually had like Urkel and stuff, I believe. 00:32:29.460 --> 00:32:31.180 I never watched this show. 00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:39.180 But this one, there was an episode in the latter half of the episode in the 00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:43.160 fourth season, Judy was set to her room as a punishment. 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.760 Never came back. 00:32:45.020 --> 00:32:48.260 She was never seen or heard from or mentioned on the show again. 00:32:49.620 --> 00:32:54.260 That's great. Perfect. Talk about the ultimate punishment. 00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:57.120 You know, and, um, yeah. 00:32:58.040 --> 00:32:58.620 Um, 00:33:01.390 --> 00:33:07.390 we just you know forget it yeah what who's judy what are you talking about what 00:33:07.390 --> 00:33:11.530 are you yeah what are you talking about what are you talking about it's what 00:33:11.530 --> 00:33:12.850 character what are you yeah. 00:33:12.850 --> 00:33:15.450 And no write-off no like. 00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:19.490 Nothing nothing we're don't even pretend now i'm just just just god, 00:33:21.290 --> 00:33:27.670 god and yeah perfect so that's the way it should be we just you know we don't even, 00:33:28.550 --> 00:33:31.690 we don't even pretend we don't 00:33:31.690 --> 00:33:35.090 even pretend that we you know it's like it's like 00:33:35.090 --> 00:33:38.990 one of those you know those those things where they're trying to drive the person 00:33:38.990 --> 00:33:46.430 crazy it's like what do you mean president you know yeah that person doesn't 00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:51.830 exist what are you talking about you're like but what do you yeah my brother no you know. 00:33:51.830 --> 00:33:54.970 Well there's another series that did that in reverse famously 00:33:54.970 --> 00:33:57.890 as well and that was buffy the 00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:02.650 vampire slayer which i'm i'm not currently watching but i watched almost every 00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:08.870 episode when it was actually on new and i and let me check which season this 00:34:08.870 --> 00:34:16.430 happened in and so in the fifth season of the show. 00:34:16.430 --> 00:34:18.570 Yeah yeah what did they do. 00:34:19.890 --> 00:34:23.510 All of a sudden, the main character, Buffy, had a little sister. 00:34:24.330 --> 00:34:26.530 Had never existed. Out of the blue. 00:34:26.970 --> 00:34:27.910 Now I got a sister. 00:34:28.430 --> 00:34:29.690 Teenage little sister. So it 00:34:29.690 --> 00:34:33.890 wasn't like a baby that was just born or something. Teenage little sister. 00:34:34.030 --> 00:34:36.490 We need to add a sister. We need to add a sister. 00:34:36.730 --> 00:34:37.850 We need to add a sister. 00:34:38.910 --> 00:34:42.450 It's like, well, they did that. Well, is this because of peanuts? 00:34:42.490 --> 00:34:45.990 They did that with peanuts. All of a sudden, Snoopy had a brother spike. 00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:52.210 Well, there you go. And like, spoilers here, there did end up being an in-show 00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:58.230 explanation for why Buffy's little sister Dawn showed up at that point. 00:34:58.390 --> 00:35:02.110 They did explain it in-show. I won't get into that because it's spoilers. 00:35:02.930 --> 00:35:07.410 But yeah, it's just like, all of a sudden, she's there. And there's no like 00:35:07.410 --> 00:35:09.270 introduction, like, oh, new sister. 00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:11.770 It's just she's there as if she was always there. 00:35:14.010 --> 00:35:14.930 And yeah. 00:35:15.270 --> 00:35:19.330 That's a way to do it. Exactly. That's the way to do it. You know, Tal. 00:35:20.090 --> 00:35:24.510 You know, I should get, I should be, it should be as easy to get Manu a brother. 00:35:24.690 --> 00:35:26.450 Like some people say, well, I got a brother. All of a sudden, 00:35:26.570 --> 00:35:31.330 we just show up and, oh yeah, Manu's brother. He's 11. What? 00:35:31.490 --> 00:35:32.290 He's always been there. 00:35:32.730 --> 00:35:35.710 What are you talking about? What are you talking about? You're like, 00:35:35.750 --> 00:35:38.190 what do you mean? He's all in it. Yeah. What are you talking about? 00:35:39.110 --> 00:35:39.930 Okay. Anyway. 00:35:40.150 --> 00:35:43.870 Then I just edit, I just use AI to edit, edit them into all the old pictures. 00:35:44.610 --> 00:35:45.510 You can do that now. 00:35:45.990 --> 00:35:46.350 Yeah. 00:35:46.610 --> 00:35:46.790 Yeah. 00:35:46.790 --> 00:35:51.950 I mean just edit all the old pictures of videos all of a sudden there's this 00:35:51.950 --> 00:35:53.890 guy that shows up laughing. 00:35:56.050 --> 00:35:58.510 It could be spike it. 00:35:58.510 --> 00:35:59.630 Could be spike yes. 00:35:59.630 --> 00:36:03.690 Snoopy's brother spike not the spike from his brother's vampire slayer that's. 00:36:03.690 --> 00:36:05.350 Yeah no no different spike yeah yeah. 00:36:05.350 --> 00:36:09.890 Different spike different spike okay i think we need to we finally take a break 00:36:09.890 --> 00:36:15.450 and like talk i mean you said you hated the news so i figured no problem going along on the non-news, 00:36:17.930 --> 00:36:18.410 Okay, 00:36:21.290 --> 00:36:25.490 let's take a break. We'll be back. And then Yvonne can tell us which of the 00:36:25.490 --> 00:36:30.850 news things that he hates the most he would like to talk about first. Back after this. 00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:35.450 You know, I was paying so much attention that it took me until the second half. 00:38:35.450 --> 00:38:39.690 Of that break before I realized that it was the Ray Lynch break and not one 00:38:39.690 --> 00:38:42.890 of the breaks for Alex's YouTube channel. 00:38:43.510 --> 00:38:49.130 Oh, I was like, this is still going on. Alex's breaks aren't usually this long. 00:38:49.250 --> 00:38:51.250 What's going on? Oh, it's Ray Lynch. 00:38:51.510 --> 00:38:53.830 It's not the Alex break. It was Ray Lynch. 00:38:54.330 --> 00:39:00.050 You know, I was looking at stuff on the other screens I have here while it was 00:39:00.050 --> 00:39:04.930 playing. And I wasn't actually paying attention, obviously, you know, so yeah. 00:39:06.150 --> 00:39:09.930 Anyway, so Yvonne, of the various exciting news things. 00:39:09.930 --> 00:39:13.870 I'm double checking right now just to make sure one thing. 00:39:14.270 --> 00:39:14.670 Okay. 00:39:14.850 --> 00:39:18.610 Yeah. I want to make sure that we keep playing this. Ray Lynch is getting older. 00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:22.290 I wanted to make sure that he's still alive as far as I can tell. Okay. 00:39:22.470 --> 00:39:25.190 I check that periodically as well. Yes. 00:39:25.330 --> 00:39:29.310 Yeah. He is still alive. Okay. Good. All right. Okay. Just double checking. 00:39:29.530 --> 00:39:34.730 Yes. he's still he's 81 but yeah he's very much still very much with us. 00:39:34.730 --> 00:39:39.670 You know right around the time we made this break was also when like his house 00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:42.890 burned down or something yes but that was years ago that. 00:39:42.890 --> 00:39:44.030 Was a long time ago yeah. 00:39:44.030 --> 00:39:50.450 But like yeah so he had but yeah like he's he's i i do check this periodically 00:39:50.450 --> 00:39:53.950 as well not not to feel glum here or something no it's just. 00:39:53.950 --> 00:39:55.710 That you know yeah I mean, I don't want to like. 00:39:55.750 --> 00:39:56.910 If he ever play it. 00:39:56.970 --> 00:39:59.070 If he ever, we have to make a note of that. 00:39:59.070 --> 00:40:03.210 You know, if he ever does pass away. And I, I preface that with if, 00:40:03.450 --> 00:40:09.490 cause you know, he may live forever, but you know, then we should mention it when it happens. 00:40:09.650 --> 00:40:14.990 Yes, we should. It should be. Yes. Should be noted. Yes. If that. Yeah. 00:40:15.370 --> 00:40:23.090 Okay. So topic you find, what, what, what newsy thing are you most willing to 00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:26.370 actually talk about without like destroying your blood pressure. 00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:28.110 Looking at all of these. 00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:31.650 We could do more movies and TVs, the whole damn show. 00:40:33.370 --> 00:40:38.750 We could go back to the gardening topic. Talk, talk about the last meal you had. 00:40:40.030 --> 00:40:41.830 I'm thinking about this. 00:40:42.010 --> 00:40:45.990 We could discuss our miscellaneous health ailments for ourselves and our families, 00:40:46.030 --> 00:40:48.090 you know, all kinds of fun stuff like that. 00:40:50.170 --> 00:40:53.370 Fuck. fuck i'm i'm 00:40:53.370 --> 00:40:56.170 looking at them and i'm i'm debating here for 00:40:56.170 --> 00:40:59.570 a second uh-huh i guess 00:40:59.570 --> 00:41:08.170 the stupid fucking shit that happened with ukraine this week okay now summarize 00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:14.990 what happened first yes oh we'll preface even before the summary yeah that no 00:41:14.990 --> 00:41:17.370 one should have been surprised by This. 00:41:17.370 --> 00:41:22.010 Is something we've said repeatedly, like on everything, like, 00:41:22.130 --> 00:41:27.670 and this, this seems to be like a fundamental division when you talk to people about what's going on. 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:34.210 For the most part, Harris voters, well, I don't even want to put it in terms 00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:35.330 of Harris and Trump voters. 00:41:35.750 --> 00:41:40.250 There are people who believed what Donald Trump says. 00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:40.990 Right. 00:41:41.250 --> 00:41:44.830 And then there are people who are like, ah, that's just how he is. 00:41:44.830 --> 00:41:47.670 He talks about stuff. He won't actually do that stuff. 00:41:48.090 --> 00:41:56.190 But, you know, but everything he is doing lines right up with things he said he would do. 00:41:56.570 --> 00:41:57.130 Yeah. 00:41:57.130 --> 00:42:02.750 Plus Project 2025, which he said he had nothing to do with. However, 00:42:03.170 --> 00:42:04.750 everybody associated with him did. 00:42:05.030 --> 00:42:12.410 And if you read the positions he actually espoused on his own damn website, which was called like. 00:42:12.490 --> 00:42:13.650 We're all Project 2020. 00:42:13.890 --> 00:42:17.610 It was like something 47 or something. I forget what he called it. 00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:21.950 But like, it was basically a summary of Project 2025. 00:42:22.470 --> 00:42:27.330 Just shorter. You know? So anyway. way yes no one should be. 00:42:27.330 --> 00:42:28.790 Surprised by anything so you're. 00:42:28.790 --> 00:42:33.090 Constantly hearing about people being like oh my god i can't believe he's doing 00:42:33.090 --> 00:42:34.190 this we weren't prepared. 00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:38.890 So he met with putin you know they he talked with putin he didn't meet with 00:42:38.890 --> 00:42:41.570 him in person not yet not yet no no but they talked, 00:42:43.050 --> 00:42:49.610 and basically as as we expected he he threw ukraine completely under the bus, 00:42:50.450 --> 00:42:56.070 And I think, well, one thing that we do know, we've heard this before, 00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:59.710 so I guess, I guess this was a little bit surprising for him, 00:42:59.890 --> 00:43:04.270 for me to hear, but it not, it shouldn't have been. 00:43:04.830 --> 00:43:09.010 Trump has this reputation that, especially of people that he, like, 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.340 admires that he will go into a meeting with them. 00:43:13.620 --> 00:43:17.380 They will tell him something and he will come out at a meeting, 00:43:17.560 --> 00:43:20.880 basically regurgitating that point. Okay. 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.640 And so he goes to the meeting with Putin, Putin, not being an idiot like he 00:43:25.640 --> 00:43:28.580 is what basically was to the position. 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.080 Well, Ukraine started this war. 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:31.940 Yeah. 00:43:32.180 --> 00:43:38.620 And so Trump came out and basically just said that, and you basically accused 00:43:38.620 --> 00:43:42.800 of, you know, ukraine starting the war and then. 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.360 Zelinski being a dictator the. 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.040 Zelinski's a dictator which that's also a talking point of of. 00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:53.020 The russians i'll mention specifically part of that talking point 00:43:53.020 --> 00:43:56.340 is zelinski refuses to have elections zelinski is 00:43:56.340 --> 00:43:59.240 the ukrainian constitution that was 00:43:59.240 --> 00:44:03.940 in place before the invasion actually explicitly says in a situation of war 00:44:03.940 --> 00:44:09.940 or emergency elections will be delayed so that's not like a decision that zelinski 00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:14.880 specifically made i mean i guess you could say he could say there's no emergency 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.840 anymore but they're at war there. 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:17.640 Is no emergency. 00:44:17.640 --> 00:44:24.500 You know so it's it is the situation is mandated by their constitution you can 00:44:24.500 --> 00:44:29.300 argue whether that's the right thing to do i mean you know the u.s had elections 00:44:29.300 --> 00:44:33.780 throughout like all our wars but there They were very, even the civil war, 00:44:34.180 --> 00:44:40.140 but like most of our wars haven't been on our own territory and our constitution 00:44:40.140 --> 00:44:42.680 has no provisions for that, for that, et cetera. 00:44:43.620 --> 00:44:49.720 You know, so it does eventually become untenable. Eventually you have to have elections again. 00:44:49.740 --> 00:44:54.300 But I understood that the UK also had that, that they, they, 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.200 they did suspend elections during the world war two. 00:44:57.780 --> 00:44:57.960 Yeah. 00:44:58.180 --> 00:44:59.280 Um, yeah. 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:06.720 Although famously, like, Churchill did get kicked out during World War II. Right. 00:45:07.380 --> 00:45:09.160 But anyway, continue, continue. 00:45:09.620 --> 00:45:13.460 But it was more closely. But, okay, so threw them under the bus. 00:45:13.620 --> 00:45:16.620 Then I guess the whole thing was demanding, like, basically, 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:18.600 hey, just give us all your... 00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:24.200 And then I think, who was it that said that they never getting their land back? Was it Hagzeth? 00:45:24.640 --> 00:45:30.520 Yes. He said, and I think we touched on this statement last week, 00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:34.760 but he said, yeah, they're very unlikely to get their land back. 00:45:35.020 --> 00:45:37.020 NATO membership is not on the table. 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.420 He said a couple other things along those lines that basically positioned the U.S. 00:45:43.740 --> 00:45:48.540 At the beginning of the negotiations already at the Russian position. 00:45:49.370 --> 00:45:54.670 And even for, you know, he went, you know, but but during this the whole week, 00:45:54.670 --> 00:46:00.810 he goes on this thing about making withdrawals from Europe of U.S. 00:46:00.950 --> 00:46:04.590 Troops, reductions in U.S. military spending. 00:46:04.970 --> 00:46:08.330 I mean, basically, it's like a Putin wish list. 00:46:08.510 --> 00:46:14.090 Yeah. And he explicitly made the statement about, you know, Europe should get 00:46:14.090 --> 00:46:18.070 out of the habit of assuming the U.S. is their primary defense mechanism. 00:46:18.650 --> 00:46:24.850 And but but but but but then at the same time you know by the way yeah a lot 00:46:24.850 --> 00:46:30.150 of this by the way a lot of how we got there okay all right but you know but a lot a. 00:46:30.150 --> 00:46:34.790 Lot of these statements just to be clear over the next few days both hegsess 00:46:34.790 --> 00:46:40.550 and trump backed off a little bit from these statements but they'd already said it. 00:46:40.550 --> 00:46:46.510 But they were all putin talking points is my point yes came out And basically, 00:46:46.790 --> 00:46:51.150 it's like, look, if it's like Putin handed him, if anybody would have dreamed 00:46:51.150 --> 00:46:53.710 of being able to hand the president of the United States, 00:46:54.050 --> 00:46:56.890 Putin wanted to hand him talking points, he got his wish. 00:46:57.070 --> 00:46:59.870 It's basically here, read this. And he read it. 00:47:00.550 --> 00:47:07.250 And then troop withdrawals from Europe. Oh, my God. Defense cutbacks. 00:47:08.650 --> 00:47:11.990 But here's the crazy thing about the defense cutbacks. He wants like Europe 00:47:11.990 --> 00:47:19.830 to spend 5% of GDP on defense. Fuck, we're not spending anywhere near that, okay? 00:47:20.150 --> 00:47:27.230 And worse, I mean, he wants to go and cut it to below what he's demanding the Europeans to spend. 00:47:27.890 --> 00:47:33.670 Right. Let me mention a little bit more about, you started to mention Trump's 00:47:33.670 --> 00:47:35.110 demand for a mineral deal. 00:47:35.330 --> 00:47:38.030 Yes. Rare earths. 00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:42.970 Yeah, rare earths. So basically, and we even like a couple of weeks ago, 00:47:43.090 --> 00:47:45.010 we talked about how, ah, maybe this is okay. 00:47:45.270 --> 00:47:48.870 Like there's some sort of deal between, you know, in exchange for rare earths, 00:47:48.930 --> 00:47:52.050 Trump will actually put some troops in and provide more support, 00:47:52.170 --> 00:47:53.570 blah, blah, blah. He's transactional. 00:47:54.950 --> 00:48:00.710 And maybe Zelensky's like, okay, deal. Well, what happened was the demand was 00:48:00.710 --> 00:48:04.770 50% of all of those resources that the Ukraine has, 00:48:04.990 --> 00:48:12.610 and Trump made it clear this was not in exchange for anything going forward. 00:48:12.610 --> 00:48:18.730 The way Trump put it was, this is to pay us back for what Biden spent in Ukraine 00:48:18.730 --> 00:48:27.490 already and gave nothing in exchange, was basically just, 00:48:27.670 --> 00:48:31.330 we demand these resources. So Zelensky said no. 00:48:32.640 --> 00:48:37.220 And apparently that made Trump really upset. And along with some other things 00:48:37.220 --> 00:48:38.640 Zelensky said about Trump, 00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:44.540 basically Trump had talks in Saudi Arabia with Russia, not in person, 00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:50.060 but his people, about the situation without even telling the Ukrainians it was 00:48:50.060 --> 00:48:52.200 going to happen in advance, let alone including them. 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.640 And Zelensky made some statements about how that was unacceptable and no deal 00:48:57.640 --> 00:49:01.680 negotiated without Ukraine would ever be accepted by the Ukrainian people. 00:49:01.680 --> 00:49:06.320 Ukraine has to be involved, blah, blah, blah. And this made Trump very mad. 00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:16.200 The latest I've seen reporting on just in the last 24 hours is that I don't 00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:20.340 know if it's Trump or Musk or some combination thereof, 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:26.400 but they are saying that they are going to cut off all Ukraine access to Starlink 00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.360 if they don't give them all those mineral rights. 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:36.060 And Starlink is, of course, right now a key portion of how the Ukrainian military 00:49:36.060 --> 00:49:37.600 communicates on the battlefield. 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.180 So we're basically blackmailing them now at this point to get those mineral 00:49:42.180 --> 00:49:43.540 rights in exchange for nothing. 00:49:45.180 --> 00:49:54.760 So all of this, the bottom line on all of this is we have effectively switched sides. 00:49:55.260 --> 00:50:00.380 On this conflict. Yeah, basically. This is not playing some sort of neutral arbiter. 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.720 The Trump administration is now pushing the Russian position on this conflict. 00:50:07.890 --> 00:50:12.870 And Europe and Ukraine are scrambling to figure out how to react on that. 00:50:13.430 --> 00:50:19.150 Now, we haven't quite said, okay, we're going to supply arms to the Russians now. 00:50:19.670 --> 00:50:22.050 But basically everything's short of that. 00:50:22.770 --> 00:50:27.850 No. And now the Europeans all of a sudden are scrambling and now they're assembling 00:50:27.850 --> 00:50:36.070 their own aid and weapons package to Ukraine of a significant amount. 00:50:36.070 --> 00:50:39.630 One of Trump's talking points, by the way, has been how the U.S. 00:50:39.690 --> 00:50:42.850 Has spent so much more than Europe and Ukraine, which is just outright false. 00:50:43.790 --> 00:50:48.070 The U.S. has spent more than any other individual country, but if you add up 00:50:48.070 --> 00:50:52.330 all of Europe together, they have spent like 30% more than we have. 00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:54.630 I forget the exact number, but ballpark. 00:50:54.950 --> 00:50:59.590 They have definitely spent more than us on supporting the Ukrainians overall. 00:51:00.090 --> 00:51:01.650 So that's just plain false. 00:51:02.210 --> 00:51:05.110 Also i should mention like his we we 00:51:05.110 --> 00:51:07.830 mentioned he's sort of taking the russian talking points on who 00:51:07.830 --> 00:51:14.270 started the war at all but where that came up more most blatantly was in response 00:51:14.270 --> 00:51:19.870 to zelinski saying that he wasn't included trump basically said well you had 00:51:19.870 --> 00:51:23.630 three years to make a deal you didn't make a deal and in fact you shouldn't 00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:26.650 have even started it you know was his response to all that. 00:51:27.350 --> 00:51:28.790 Shouldn't even started what? 00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:29.550 The war. 00:51:29.870 --> 00:51:32.010 Oh, because yeah, he started the war. Right. 00:51:32.270 --> 00:51:37.230 Yeah. Zelensky started the war, according to Trump. Again, there has been some 00:51:37.230 --> 00:51:40.110 minor back off from some of these statements, but- 00:51:41.380 --> 00:51:47.720 Well, one thing is that I, the one thing that the Europeans are, 00:51:47.980 --> 00:51:54.340 have been reacting very belatedly is they've known that they've had this risk 00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:58.820 related to their defense posture, especially since Trump was in his first term. 00:51:59.160 --> 00:52:03.840 And the reality is that they had to spend more on defense, even though I know 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:08.200 that the economy, that they've had issues with economic growth in recent times. 00:52:08.200 --> 00:52:14.160 But they are the ones that are the tip of the spear in terms of the threat from Russia at the time. 00:52:14.420 --> 00:52:20.260 And, you know, given what happened in the first Trump term, they should have 00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:23.120 had a sharper reaction. However, they didn't. 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.820 Now they're all under scrambling to react to something that they knew was a looming threat. 00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:32.720 And it shouldn't have surprised them in one bit that it was said. 00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:38.700 I will say that having Vance and Paxev basically go over there and shit all 00:52:38.700 --> 00:52:43.480 over them probably wasn't, they didn't think that that part specifically could 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.000 have happened. I guess they probably expected it from Trump itself. 00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:50.060 But basically, you know, they went over there and just shit all over Europe 00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:54.740 in terms of military economy, everything. 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.300 You know, we support the far right parties. I mean, basically, 00:52:59.640 --> 00:53:04.000 it was just, you know, that's been the last couple of weeks of our relations 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.100 with Europe at this moment. 00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:12.320 Well, here's the thing. After Trump won. 00:53:13.100 --> 00:53:18.200 You know, already Europe was talking like, you know, we have to figure out how 00:53:18.200 --> 00:53:23.680 to live our lives without the assumption of a benevolent America. 00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:26.780 I mean, America's never been completely benevolent. There's been all kinds of 00:53:26.780 --> 00:53:28.960 weirdness in the relationship. But fundamentally. 00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:32.580 An America that actually had a good relationship with Europe. 00:53:32.820 --> 00:53:37.980 Yes. Yes. That's a good way to put it. Like, there was a mutually beneficial 00:53:37.980 --> 00:53:43.640 U.S.-Europe relationship that everybody appreciated. Yeah. 00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:50.140 And they started to, in Trump one, they sort of retrenched, but I think everybody, 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.500 and this goes for us, how we reacted to Trump internally too. 00:53:53.620 --> 00:53:58.840 There was sort of this general feeling that this is temporary. This is an aberration. 00:53:59.240 --> 00:54:03.660 Trump will be here a little while. And then as long as we can get through it, 00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.160 things will go back to normal. 00:54:05.160 --> 00:54:12.420 Right now with trump winning a second time including winning the u.s popular vote, 00:54:13.100 --> 00:54:17.000 there's a lot more thought of like well shit this 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:21.860 might not be temporary this might just be how the way it is and even if it is 00:54:21.860 --> 00:54:26.420 temporary even if like the next u.s president comes in and tries to reverse 00:54:26.420 --> 00:54:33.440 all this stuff well what about the one after that right we can no longer rely on this long-term. 00:54:33.900 --> 00:54:37.380 We have to treat the U.S. 00:54:37.660 --> 00:54:42.880 As an unpredictable entity that at any moment. 00:54:43.600 --> 00:54:48.160 You know, could switch direction. So we can't rely on a damn thing. 00:54:48.580 --> 00:54:52.900 And, and, you know, with, with Trump himself, I mean, with all this mineral 00:54:52.900 --> 00:54:57.300 stuff and everything else, we come back to again, his transactional nature. 00:54:57.740 --> 00:55:06.720 Like there's nothing sort of, there's no sort of base ideological thing here on most of this. 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.800 There's, there's some core racism that exists. There's some core sexism that 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:15.000 exists that permeates everything, but fundamentally, 00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:22.360 like he could switch direction 180 degrees on a dime if he perceived it would 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.320 benefit him, you know, or, or, 00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:30.960 or if it hurt people that he doesn't like, that is also a reason that he will turn on a dime. 00:55:31.620 --> 00:55:31.860 Yes. 00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:38.940 You know, so, so yeah, no one can count on him. 00:55:39.060 --> 00:55:44.860 And so everybody worldwide is going to have to pivot to that stance that they 00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:47.120 just cannot rely on the U.S. 00:55:47.300 --> 00:55:52.880 For anything one way or another and figure out how to go about things based 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.620 on that new assumption of what the world is like. that, yes, the U.S. 00:55:56.660 --> 00:56:00.680 May do something helpful every once in a while, but they also may do things 00:56:00.680 --> 00:56:02.840 that are horribly harmful. 00:56:03.220 --> 00:56:03.660 Correct. 00:56:04.340 --> 00:56:05.780 Regardless of who you are in 00:56:05.780 --> 00:56:09.480 the world and what the previous relationship was, good or bad. You know? 00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:16.680 And that's the new reality. That's the new reality. And that's a very, very unstable reality. 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.960 The one thing is that Trump supposedly is doing this for, 00:56:24.350 --> 00:56:29.970 I'm not even really sure what his in his head he thinks is the reason for this. 00:56:30.330 --> 00:56:37.050 I mean, do you, because it doesn't make America safer in any way. 00:56:37.290 --> 00:56:44.330 The reality is no, no, that that's, that's the, that's the clear reality. 00:56:44.450 --> 00:56:48.090 This doesn't do that in any way, shape or form. 00:56:48.090 --> 00:56:55.410 So, I mean, I, but I also realize that when we talk about Trump, 00:56:55.510 --> 00:56:59.250 when we talk about the fact that he's transactional, he also doesn't think he's 00:56:59.250 --> 00:57:01.690 not thinking strategically in terms of a long term. 00:57:02.070 --> 00:57:05.130 No, no, everything is extremely short term. 00:57:05.130 --> 00:57:10.750 So he's thinking that he can get a very short-term benefit for whatever the hell reason right now, 00:57:11.010 --> 00:57:18.430 regardless of what situation he creates in the future, that is inherently far 00:57:18.430 --> 00:57:23.870 more dangerous to the world in general, 00:57:24.130 --> 00:57:28.850 including the United States, because this will embolden other countries. 00:57:28.850 --> 00:57:32.670 In short-term versus long-term, and this is a problem not just with Trump, 00:57:32.710 --> 00:57:36.890 but lots of things in the world right now, but in terms of short-term, long-term, 00:57:37.090 --> 00:57:41.590 he couldn't give a flying fuck what happens five years from now, 00:57:41.630 --> 00:57:44.770 as long as there's a benefit to be had in the next few weeks. 00:57:44.770 --> 00:57:54.150 Yeah so yeah I mean he's really setting up he's setting up America in the long 00:57:54.150 --> 00:57:59.330 term in a far more precarious situation, 00:58:00.990 --> 00:58:08.450 I mean, that's my my view. Here's the one thing that I find humorous about all this. 00:58:08.530 --> 00:58:12.310 I know that it's difficult to to think of that, but but, you know, I find it. 00:58:12.490 --> 00:58:19.870 The one thing that I found humorous is fucking Marco Rubio's face as he sat 00:58:19.870 --> 00:58:25.770 at the at this meeting in Saudi Arabia and other meetings with Lavrov and all these people. 00:58:25.770 --> 00:58:35.170 And with this face that just completely betrays the fact that in his head, 00:58:35.450 --> 00:58:40.370 you know, he knows he is a complete sellout, but the thing is that he has sold 00:58:40.370 --> 00:58:45.050 himself out for financial reasons, for political reasons, you know. 00:58:45.150 --> 00:58:47.930 Because just to be clear, Marco Rubio's history, like. 00:58:48.230 --> 00:58:53.070 Is a hard-life anti-Russia guy. 00:58:53.310 --> 00:59:00.590 Right. And he is sitting there doing this shit and his face betrays the fact 00:59:00.590 --> 00:59:06.910 that he is just right now a lackey that is doing what his boss wants that he despises. 00:59:06.910 --> 00:59:11.810 But because he is just a lackey, he's sitting there looking, 00:59:11.810 --> 00:59:16.130 you know, absolutely stone face and being, uh, yeah. 00:59:16.550 --> 00:59:21.910 There was another Trump appointee. I forget in what role he was a spokesman 00:59:21.910 --> 00:59:24.550 for something or other, but he used to be a congressman. 00:59:24.930 --> 00:59:29.550 I forget which person it was or which name. But some reporter asked him, 00:59:30.050 --> 00:59:35.850 showed him a clip of him as a congressman taking hardline anti-Russian positions 00:59:35.850 --> 00:59:38.490 and pro-Ukraine positions. 00:59:38.770 --> 00:59:44.210 And basically he was asked, how do you reconcile these? 00:59:44.350 --> 00:59:47.970 How do you reconcile this? Have you changed your mind? Do you now agree with 00:59:47.970 --> 00:59:49.590 President Trump's position on this? 00:59:49.810 --> 00:59:57.310 And he's like, well, obviously, at this point, I, you know, agree with the president, 00:59:57.310 --> 01:00:03.650 you know, and it was clear it was one of these, you know. 01:00:04.850 --> 01:00:13.110 He probably doesn't, but his job is now to push the administration line, just like Rubio's is. 01:00:13.610 --> 01:00:16.630 And on the one hand, that's what you expect, right? 01:00:16.770 --> 01:00:21.610 On any administration, you expect if there are internal disagreements, 01:00:21.750 --> 01:00:25.250 they are kept internal and publicly all the people, you know, 01:00:25.370 --> 01:00:26.630 give the administration line. 01:00:26.930 --> 01:00:30.770 But at the same time, these are such fundamental reversals. 01:00:30.770 --> 01:00:36.630 I mean, this isn't like, hey, we're going to use, instead of vanilla, 01:00:36.970 --> 01:00:39.410 we're going to use vanilla with chocolate chip. 01:00:39.770 --> 01:00:44.250 No, we're not even using ice cream. We're going to give you lava. 01:00:45.590 --> 01:00:49.450 Yeah, hot molten lava. You're like, do you like hot molten lava? 01:00:49.650 --> 01:00:55.650 These are the level of disagreements where you would expect that if you had 01:00:55.650 --> 01:00:57.550 that level of disagreement in an area. 01:00:57.730 --> 01:00:58.930 You would resign. 01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:04.030 Yes. You would resign or you would not have taken the job in the first place. 01:01:04.070 --> 01:01:05.350 Or not taking the job. Right. 01:01:05.570 --> 01:01:10.350 Because these are disagreements that are at the core part of what your job responsibilities 01:01:10.350 --> 01:01:11.830 are. They're not even peripheral. 01:01:12.430 --> 01:01:12.570 Right. 01:01:12.650 --> 01:01:13.670 They're like, you know. 01:01:14.070 --> 01:01:19.310 It's not like we're at the margins. 01:01:19.630 --> 01:01:26.890 You know, the other day I was having this disagreement about a strategy related 01:01:26.890 --> 01:01:28.770 to something at a customer. 01:01:28.770 --> 01:01:32.510 You know, the one thing that in my head I remembered is that, 01:01:32.750 --> 01:01:35.870 you know, look, the end goal is the same. 01:01:36.070 --> 01:01:42.510 There's different approaches to doing this. There is no one right approach to closing a deal. 01:01:42.730 --> 01:01:47.330 OK, you know, and so so it's OK, you know, as you know, we're trying to do whatever. 01:01:47.630 --> 01:01:52.010 But, you know, but in this case, it's not just it's not an approach thing. 01:01:52.390 --> 01:01:57.350 The position is completely anathema to everything that you did before. 01:01:57.350 --> 01:01:59.310 It's not sweetening, it's not 01:01:59.310 --> 01:02:04.730 changing it It's not sprinkling stuff on it It's just, you know You just, 01:02:04.850 --> 01:02:12.350 you know You are basically saying that you are You are sitting there As Marco Rubio And saying, 01:02:12.490 --> 01:02:15.110 hey, we're lackeys of Putin, 01:02:15.330 --> 01:02:17.790 and he's like sitting there Stone-faced Yeah, 01:02:18.530 --> 01:02:28.210 I am It's pathetic Yes There was one senator this week Republicans just started railing against them. 01:02:29.890 --> 01:02:32.190 On the specific issue of Ukraine, right? 01:02:32.570 --> 01:02:36.030 Yeah. And Putin, yeah. He went on the floor and just, 01:02:37.330 --> 01:02:40.190 went completely you know then it started 01:02:40.190 --> 01:02:42.870 just ripping everything apart that they it's at 01:02:42.870 --> 01:02:46.110 this week most most have remained absolute it's like 01:02:46.110 --> 01:02:48.990 the question that you it's like the the evasive answer you 01:02:48.990 --> 01:02:51.970 said uh whatever the guy spoke yeah yeah or his congressman 01:02:51.970 --> 01:02:54.930 gave like whatever well do you support this now 01:02:54.930 --> 01:02:58.530 and yeah i support the president you know not no uh 01:02:58.530 --> 01:03:01.490 you know and one of these non-specific answers that just 01:03:01.490 --> 01:03:04.530 gets me out of having to answer more questions about this 01:03:04.530 --> 01:03:07.690 right but look i 01:03:07.690 --> 01:03:11.290 it it's a new and different reality maybe 01:03:11.290 --> 01:03:14.470 it's for the better in some ways look i'll say 01:03:14.470 --> 01:03:17.530 this that europe for the last 01:03:17.530 --> 01:03:20.690 number of years has been 01:03:20.690 --> 01:03:24.690 a little bit rudderless okay and 01:03:24.690 --> 01:03:31.870 and maybe this galvanizes them into finally coming together and taking some 01:03:31.870 --> 01:03:40.710 serious actions that actually grows the influence that the EU should have on a global stage. 01:03:40.950 --> 01:03:42.750 Yeah, I agree with that. 01:03:42.750 --> 01:03:46.570 Because for the size of their economy and the size of what they bring to the 01:03:46.570 --> 01:03:53.290 table, which is really way bigger than Russia, like 10 times Russia, okay? 01:03:53.610 --> 01:03:57.910 And if still not bigger, about the size of China as well. 01:03:57.910 --> 01:04:03.050 And an individual, you know, GDP far exceeds it, you know, maybe this finally 01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:07.730 is a galvanizing moment that they needed to finally get their fucking ass, you know, 01:04:08.370 --> 01:04:13.390 off just being wishy-washy about doing certain things and taking leadership in certain things. 01:04:14.210 --> 01:04:17.670 Um, a couple other things real quick before we wrap up the segment, 01:04:17.690 --> 01:04:20.650 cause I'm going to go in a completely different direction for the next segment. 01:04:22.210 --> 01:04:27.690 First of all, you mentioned like the one Senator who's saying something different. 01:04:27.950 --> 01:04:34.270 There have been a number of reports in the last few weeks and more domestically about, 01:04:35.030 --> 01:04:40.130 Republican Congress people going to their home districts and having town halls 01:04:40.130 --> 01:04:45.290 in very, very red districts, by the way, we're talking like districts where 01:04:45.290 --> 01:04:47.590 the Republican won by 60 fucking percent, 01:04:48.090 --> 01:04:54.730 you know, like huge red districts where they are getting a really harsh reception 01:04:54.730 --> 01:05:00.390 at the town halls with people going, basically, what the hell is Trump doing? 01:05:00.610 --> 01:05:02.750 And are you going to do anything about it? 01:05:03.510 --> 01:05:08.770 Mostly seeming related to unhappiness with some of the Dodge stuff, 01:05:08.970 --> 01:05:14.610 with Elon going through and slicing things off randomly that are actually helping 01:05:14.610 --> 01:05:16.250 their constituents in red states. 01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:23.420 But, but just in general now, who knows, like, and are we, and we've got the 01:05:23.420 --> 01:05:28.940 budget stuff coming up, by the way, where right now the proposal that Trump 01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:31.980 has endorsed so far is the one that's going through the house. 01:05:32.140 --> 01:05:34.300 There's a different one that's more narrow going through the Senate, 01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:39.160 where even though Trump has said things like, we're not going to touch Medicare 01:05:39.160 --> 01:05:44.320 and Medicaid, the current proposal on the table in the house very much does touch those things. 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:49.060 Because, frankly, like, if you're going to make a big dent, you have to. 01:05:51.060 --> 01:05:57.780 And so the question is, of all— Sam— The question is, do these things end up 01:05:57.780 --> 01:06:04.120 eventually, almost by necessity, driving a wedge between congressional Republicans and Trump? 01:06:04.460 --> 01:06:09.320 Yes, because there's no other— Because there's no other— I mean, 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.640 I don't see how the hell they survive politically. 01:06:12.620 --> 01:06:17.540 Listen, them right now already, I've already seen videos and I can't, 01:06:17.640 --> 01:06:23.140 I didn't see anybody in the news confirm this is accurate or not. Okay. But. 01:06:23.420 --> 01:06:26.120 So let's spread the misinformation. I've got some more information. 01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:31.520 No, no, no. I'm giving. Wait, wait. I am prefacing this not as confirmed fact. 01:06:31.780 --> 01:06:35.840 I'm saying that this is something that has come up that they are saying related 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:37.960 to some of these changes, for example. 01:06:38.100 --> 01:06:38.540 Yeah. Okay. 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.560 Medicare insulin price caps, okay? 01:06:43.080 --> 01:06:46.800 A number of people had said weeks ago that one of the things that Trump had 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.720 signed as an executive order basically obliterated those. 01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:55.280 The many news organizations I saw that first said, no, that's not the case. 01:06:55.520 --> 01:07:00.420 But then I keep seeing anecdotal reports of people going to refill their insulin 01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:02.040 and all of a sudden they're going 01:07:02.040 --> 01:07:07.600 from having to pay $6 that they're being demanded $80, okay, to do so. 01:07:08.330 --> 01:07:12.890 These are, this is the shit, you see, this is the kind of shit that got Biden 01:07:12.890 --> 01:07:15.470 into problems in the first place, okay? 01:07:16.710 --> 01:07:21.550 This kind of stuff. My eggs were more expensive, the gas was more expensive, 01:07:21.790 --> 01:07:23.550 this was more, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. 01:07:23.810 --> 01:07:28.050 Man, look, if people are going to go to the pharmacy, they're going to find 01:07:28.050 --> 01:07:30.690 that they're paying 80 bucks for insulin instead of six? 01:07:31.550 --> 01:07:35.470 This is going to blow up so fast in their face. 01:07:35.470 --> 01:07:41.050 Well, so, so far on almost anything like that, the Trump administration is still 01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:44.410 saying it's Biden's fault, which, you know, look, it's only been a month. 01:07:44.930 --> 01:07:48.130 Yeah, but then he can fix it. Okay, but wait, but that doesn't last because 01:07:48.130 --> 01:07:51.750 you can fix, because you can fix it. Now you're there. You're supposed to be fixing it. 01:07:52.170 --> 01:07:57.050 Right. I mean, the, it's the last guy's fault thing will last a while. 01:07:57.230 --> 01:07:59.550 You can do that for a while. You can't do that forever. 01:07:59.630 --> 01:08:04.650 It's not going to last a while if the price started right after he came into 01:08:04.650 --> 01:08:06.330 office. That's the problem. 01:08:06.550 --> 01:08:11.770 One of the things that we've said repeatedly on this show is how economic stuff 01:08:11.770 --> 01:08:16.070 has a significant delay between the action that's taken and the result. 01:08:16.470 --> 01:08:20.490 So we have to be fair on that in both directions, right? 01:08:20.810 --> 01:08:25.350 But the thing is that, but, but, but, okay, but I'm talking about two different things. Okay. 01:08:25.710 --> 01:08:34.870 One is, hey, I decided to eliminate funding for research and development for these things. 01:08:35.050 --> 01:08:37.090 OK, that has a delayed effect. 01:08:37.350 --> 01:08:41.270 Well, we're going to stop the project to build this bridge. 01:08:41.610 --> 01:08:45.350 OK, we're not going to fix the bridge. Well, that doesn't have an immediate effect. 01:08:45.890 --> 01:08:50.450 But if you're going to go and, like, people are going to go and get their health 01:08:50.450 --> 01:08:54.330 care cut, if they're going to go and immediately, like, get their, 01:08:54.330 --> 01:08:58.990 all of a sudden, the deductibles for their medicines, like, soar, like, you know, 01:08:59.410 --> 01:09:03.390 1,000%, that's not a delayed effect. They just did it, like, right away. 01:09:03.470 --> 01:09:04.770 And here's the other thing that they're doing. 01:09:05.090 --> 01:09:08.510 But here's the other thing that they're mushrooming. Here's the other problem. 01:09:08.930 --> 01:09:13.410 They're doing these things where, you know, hey, an interest rate increase or 01:09:13.410 --> 01:09:17.990 cut has a delayed effect. But if you lay off half a million people now, 01:09:18.570 --> 01:09:20.070 that has an immediate effect. 01:09:20.370 --> 01:09:22.230 That doesn't get that delayed. 01:09:22.470 --> 01:09:22.810 Right. 01:09:23.030 --> 01:09:27.450 That's half a million people on the street that aren't going to find jobs right away. 01:09:27.910 --> 01:09:33.230 There's a huge difference between we passed the Inflation Reduction Act with 01:09:33.230 --> 01:09:37.670 all kinds of infrastructure spending that's scheduled over the next 10 years. 01:09:37.810 --> 01:09:38.110 Years. 01:09:38.510 --> 01:09:44.810 Or the introduction of the ACA, which also phased in over 10 years. yeah i. 01:09:44.810 --> 01:09:45.590 Think it was 10 years. 01:09:45.590 --> 01:09:48.430 I think it was uh it is close anyway 01:09:48.430 --> 01:09:51.410 it was a long time regardless it was a long time it was in 01:09:51.410 --> 01:09:54.270 both of these situations it's long enough that by the 01:09:54.270 --> 01:09:57.090 time you get the effect everybody has forgotten the thing 01:09:57.090 --> 01:10:01.490 that caused it in the beginning even you know certainly the people who aren't 01:10:01.490 --> 01:10:05.430 paying attention anyway they're just hey this good thing happened and it you 01:10:05.430 --> 01:10:09.710 know there's no a trump so much trump yeah there's no association whatsoever 01:10:09.710 --> 01:10:13.170 with the actions that actually kicked it off because it was way far in the past 01:10:13.170 --> 01:10:15.850 and they're not paying attention anyway. But you're absolutely right. 01:10:16.270 --> 01:10:20.670 Like there are other certain actions of the kind you mentioned, 01:10:21.010 --> 01:10:26.890 like lots of federal layoffs or, you know, institute a tariff right today. 01:10:27.390 --> 01:10:31.330 All these kinds of things are going to have impacts very quickly. 01:10:31.850 --> 01:10:33.730 Yes. Right away. 01:10:34.430 --> 01:10:38.550 And so, yes, you're going to get some pain there. But, you know, 01:10:38.590 --> 01:10:43.570 and we haven't talked much about like the budget negotiations and all that crap, but, 01:10:44.280 --> 01:10:47.360 It's going to be very tough for them, you know? 01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:51.700 And then they talk about deficit reduction, right? 01:10:53.500 --> 01:10:54.300 Well, barely. 01:10:54.660 --> 01:11:01.380 Can you explain to me how the hell we're going to reduce the deficit if we're all going to get a check? 01:11:01.780 --> 01:11:07.360 All of the proposals, both House and Senate, will raise the deficit. 01:11:07.700 --> 01:11:10.120 And that's before we even talk about what you just mentioned. 01:11:10.120 --> 01:11:17.900 There's a proposal on the table to send out checks to all Americans I've heard as much as $5,000. 01:11:17.900 --> 01:11:21.040 Yes I have to all Americans. 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:28.200 To give them the benefit of the stuff that Elon is canceling with his. 01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:29.340 Dodge effort. 01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:32.320 Doge doge I'm saying it wrong. 01:11:32.320 --> 01:11:37.420 Give them the benefit I don't understand this they're using Visa to pay MasterCard 01:11:37.420 --> 01:11:39.640 what the fuck is wrong with these people, 01:11:40.380 --> 01:11:43.560 we're already borrowing that money so you're 01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.320 going to borrow the money now to go and fucking like give 01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:52.120 us more checks just to give us wait to give us wait the thing is we had economic 01:11:52.120 --> 01:11:55.040 stimulus checks before because people wrote unemployment whatever blah blah 01:11:55.040 --> 01:11:59.540 blah no they're saying that these are hey we're giving you checks of our savings 01:11:59.540 --> 01:12:04.440 but they're borrowing money to give us checks of our savings yeah. 01:12:05.140 --> 01:12:08.780 Well, presumably the checks are less than the actual savings, 01:12:08.940 --> 01:12:12.480 although I'm not sure that's true because everything we've heard so far. 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.580 The savings that they say because it's all. Yeah. 01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:23.260 Well, well, well, the thing is that that that what's his name is purporting 01:12:23.260 --> 01:12:25.860 that he's going to come up with two trillion worth of savings. 01:12:26.220 --> 01:12:29.600 Right. The five thousand dollars is presumably based on actually getting the two trillion. 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:36.140 And then that $2 trillion turns into 25% of that $500 billion is handed out of checks. 01:12:36.300 --> 01:12:39.140 But look, here's the thing. Here's the reality. 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:45.680 They may just say, because, you know, they'll cook the books in whatever way 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:49.400 to show these $2 trillion in shavings. Shavings? 01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:50.260 Shavings? 01:12:50.740 --> 01:12:53.900 Shavings? We're talking like Sean Carter right now. We'll shine. 01:12:54.280 --> 01:12:58.360 You keep the little bowl of everything you've shaved off your face in the last year, right? 01:12:58.520 --> 01:12:59.240 Oh, my God. 01:12:59.240 --> 01:13:00.160 That's what we're talking about. 01:13:00.360 --> 01:13:06.980 Don't be so disgusting. Anyway, there's a shaming that they're proposing. 01:13:06.980 --> 01:13:10.100 And so they're going to cook the books. 01:13:10.340 --> 01:13:12.480 They're going to say that they saved $2 trillion. 01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:16.960 Then we're going to give a check on the 25%, which is $500 billion, 01:13:17.420 --> 01:13:24.400 which winds up basically putting a massive, bigger hole in the deficit and sending 01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:26.680 us checks for whatever the hell damn reason. 01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:32.020 You know, and a whole bunch of morons because they're going to be signed by 01:13:32.020 --> 01:13:36.180 Donald Trump and probably Elon Musk, too, as far as I I'm sure that it'll be 01:13:36.180 --> 01:13:39.300 signed to Donald Trump, Elon Musk, you know, savings, whatever. 01:13:39.740 --> 01:13:44.400 OK, and then and then everybody look, you see, Elon Musk sent me a check. 01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:48.080 Yes, exactly. like okay and 01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:51.720 and you know in in that interview like uh after 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:55.280 he lost you know biden specifically said 01:13:55.280 --> 01:14:01.100 hey you know i probably screwed up by not signing the damn checks you know because 01:14:01.100 --> 01:14:05.600 he went back to normal which is the check is signed by like the secretary of 01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:09.160 the treasury or something you know and he's like i should have signed the damn 01:14:09.160 --> 01:14:13.480 checks yeah so that people would because They got checks from me! 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.700 Yes, because all kinds of people thought that Donald Trump was personally sending them checks. 01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:24.780 You know, when in fact, the checks were being sent out in many cases based on 01:14:24.780 --> 01:14:27.680 laws the Democrats had passed that the Republicans didn't want. 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:28.400 Right. 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.600 You know, but Donald Trump signed the check. 01:14:31.820 --> 01:14:37.980 And so, yes, the one other Trump related thing I wanted to mention is we were 01:14:37.980 --> 01:14:40.480 talking about all like, oh, he's doing all the Russian talking points. 01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.820 So this once again brings us 01:14:42.820 --> 01:14:47.860 to the what the fuck is up with Donald and Putin? you know because and so. 01:14:47.860 --> 01:14:50.680 People have well before we go back to that hold the 01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.840 donald point because there is one thing that i wanted to 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.800 talk about in terms of the taxation and that 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.740 budget and that budget issue which we keep talking 01:14:59.740 --> 01:15:02.640 about i had pulled up some data before that i hadn't 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.980 like talked about on the show i shared on the slack specifically 01:15:05.980 --> 01:15:08.740 related to you know what is our 01:15:08.740 --> 01:15:11.580 issue why is the deficit at two trillion dollars right now 01:15:11.580 --> 01:15:14.580 and look it's it's purely related to the fact that 01:15:14.580 --> 01:15:17.480 the republicans have cut taxes in a crazy 01:15:17.480 --> 01:15:20.880 way especially to the wealthiest and corporations there 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:26.060 is just there there is just nothing and you see it in terms of our economy how 01:15:26.060 --> 01:15:30.100 it's grown in the last decade the economy in the last decade has added is went 01:15:30.100 --> 01:15:35.880 from about 15 to 16 trillion dollars about 26 you know 26 25 26 added about 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:40.140 10 trillion worth of it you know of a GDP to the economy. 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.520 And during that time period, the taxes only rose by, even though it was like 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:50.260 a 50%, over 50% growth on the economy, the taxes only grew by less than 10%. 01:15:50.260 --> 01:15:54.640 We only added like about, you know, a few hundred billion in revenue, 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.340 which makes no sense whatsoever. Okay. 01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:02.360 That pretty much means that we're just, you know, we have been just cutting 01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:05.920 taxes to so many companies. Warren Buffett today, basically, 01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:09.280 just flat out called every other corporation. 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:13.800 They just announced their profits. He just announced that they had record profits, 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.200 but also that they paid more. 01:16:16.340 --> 01:16:22.280 They actually, Berkshire Hathaway, paid 5% of the corporate taxes in America paid last year. 01:16:22.900 --> 01:16:28.980 Berkshire Hathaway, one fucking company. OK, and and that just shows you how 01:16:28.980 --> 01:16:33.160 fucked up the corporate taxation system is in the United States. 01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:40.380 And the thing is that he went and purposely did as little as possible to avoid taxes. 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:44.000 OK, because if he had, he probably could have paid zero. 01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:49.560 But he said, fuck it, because, you know, one thing that Ruben Gallego was actually 01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:54.460 talking about, which I'm actually agreeing on him on this, is that a couple 01:16:54.460 --> 01:16:58.060 of people, and Mark Andreessen said this, but his conclusion is a different one. 01:16:58.460 --> 01:17:02.680 I got a lot of people on the left that vilify every business and every corporation, 01:17:02.860 --> 01:17:04.620 blah, blah, blah, that everybody is a crook. 01:17:04.940 --> 01:17:07.800 Every rich person is a crook and every corporate company is a crook. 01:17:09.400 --> 01:17:14.720 The one thing that they do do is that they alienate certain people that actually 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:18.660 are advocating for the same shit that they are and just calling them crooks. 01:17:18.780 --> 01:17:25.640 Look, you want to like, you know, you want to say that most of them are crooked like this? Absolutely. 01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:31.220 But you also have to recognize that a number of them are your allies in this 01:17:31.220 --> 01:17:33.380 and not shit all over them, okay? 01:17:34.040 --> 01:17:38.200 People like Michael Bloomberg, people like Warren Buffett, people like Bill 01:17:38.200 --> 01:17:42.080 Gates, they want that. They're trying to help. 01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:46.640 Don't shit on the people that are also trying to help. Don't shit on people 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.960 that are rich and are saying, hey, I should be taxed more. 01:17:49.220 --> 01:17:49.620 Right. 01:17:49.820 --> 01:17:52.900 I my my tax rate at that rate should be 90 percent. 01:17:53.320 --> 01:17:57.620 They're trying to help you stop shitting on them. And also the other thing that 01:17:57.620 --> 01:18:00.980 Runga you actually said, which I do agree with, even though some of the stuff 01:18:00.980 --> 01:18:04.460 is great with is that a lot of poor people actually want to be rich. 01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:10.900 So when you vilify every rich person, they're like, but I want to be rich, too. 01:18:11.700 --> 01:18:13.460 You know, that's the American dream. 01:18:13.860 --> 01:18:14.220 Right. 01:18:14.340 --> 01:18:18.080 I want to be rich. And I'm like, you know, and he's right. 01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:24.220 And I'm like, you know, I'm one that doesn't care if they vilify people that make a lot of money. 01:18:24.440 --> 01:18:27.480 I'm like, even though, you know, many times I've fallen into that group, 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:29.780 I'm just like, you know, look, I don't care. 01:18:30.100 --> 01:18:34.800 Because I know that a lot of stuff they're right, they may be lumping everybody into the group. 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.280 But the problem is that there are so many of them, so many people that make 01:18:38.280 --> 01:18:42.560 a lot of money that are fucking shitheads that I get why they will take the 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.680 product rush and just, you know, pay it over everybody. OK, I get it. 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.440 I understand why they're angry. But I don't I don't think that's working. 01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:52.260 And by the way, I'm remembering that Clinton. 01:18:53.060 --> 01:18:58.540 That was a big change that they did from campaigning in the 80s towards a campaign 01:18:58.540 --> 01:19:02.740 in the 90s of work at Clinton is that he had stopped doing that to a certain extent. 01:19:02.740 --> 01:19:11.420 And so we need to gain allies across the spectrum everywhere, 01:19:11.420 --> 01:19:17.700 and we can't just be just in a situation where we are right now taking people 01:19:17.700 --> 01:19:22.000 that because they fit into certain economic group or something or whatever, 01:19:22.400 --> 01:19:27.960 just shitting on them right now when they're actively trying to help. 01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:36.160 This goes more to the general Democratic issue with pure, with like, you know, if. 01:19:36.160 --> 01:19:39.280 Well, it happens in the Republic. So let's not think this is a political purity, 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.640 you know, purity testing that's going on lately. 01:19:42.180 --> 01:19:48.900 Specifically the notion that like, hey, if you disagree with us on anything, you're out. 01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:49.760 Fuck you. Yeah. 01:19:49.900 --> 01:19:57.940 Fuck you. You're out. Like, you know, there's not the real, okay, we agree on 70%. 01:19:58.780 --> 01:20:03.340 We can fight about that 30%, but let's, let's move forward together on the 70, 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:07.300 you know, and that that's, it's hard right now. 01:20:07.420 --> 01:20:10.980 There's, I mean, and look, there's certainly a lot of people who are after the consensus. 01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:16.320 I don't want to say that, but there, there are key elements of people. 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.620 And, you know, the typical example we've used over and over again, 01:20:20.740 --> 01:20:24.380 the last couple months is the people who refuse to vote for Harris because of Gaza. 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:25.240 Right. 01:20:25.240 --> 01:20:31.520 Um, you know, this does not help, you know, you, you, you gotta look at the, 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:38.400 you gotta look at the full picture and yes, I understand you think the position is bad on policy X, 01:20:38.620 --> 01:20:43.700 but you gotta look at everything and you have to look at what the policy of the opposition is. 01:20:43.940 --> 01:20:44.360 Right. 01:20:44.740 --> 01:20:50.500 You, you know, I, I saw someone put it that said, okay, so you, 01:20:50.580 --> 01:20:58.460 you argue like it's not true, but you argued that Trump and Harris were exactly the same on Gaza. 01:20:58.960 --> 01:20:59.480 Right. 01:20:59.860 --> 01:21:03.100 You know, okay, assume that is true. 01:21:03.420 --> 01:21:07.580 At best, that takes that issue off the table because they're equivalent. 01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:09.400 So now you have to look at everything else. 01:21:09.400 --> 01:21:10.460 So then vote on everything else. 01:21:10.860 --> 01:21:16.580 Right. You can't just say no overall. Okay. 01:21:17.080 --> 01:21:20.900 The one other thing I was going to say, I said I wanted to share a piece of misinformation. 01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:25.500 You were going to talk about the Russia-Putin-Trump thing. 01:21:26.020 --> 01:21:28.900 Because once again, people are like, what's going on with Trump? 01:21:28.940 --> 01:21:32.340 And he's so subservient to Russia, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:21:32.700 --> 01:21:35.740 And of course, we don't have to regurgitate the whole thing. 01:21:35.940 --> 01:21:40.460 But we had a Mueller report that, despite the spin that was put on it, 01:21:40.660 --> 01:21:46.740 showed a lot of improper connections between Trump and Russia in the campaign season. 01:21:46.740 --> 01:21:52.540 We had a bipartisan Senate report that also talked about all kinds of improper 01:21:52.540 --> 01:21:57.800 Russia stuff during the 2016 election cycle, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 01:21:58.200 --> 01:22:00.400 However, all that stuff aside. 01:22:01.370 --> 01:22:08.250 There is a new report today, yesterday, yesterday, in the Daily Mirror coming out of the UK. 01:22:08.870 --> 01:22:12.150 Now, by the way, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Yvonne, 01:22:12.590 --> 01:22:16.630 the Mirror is tabloid trash, isn't it? Like, they're not known for, like... 01:22:16.630 --> 01:22:18.110 I thought the Mirror was owned by the Murdochs. 01:22:18.830 --> 01:22:22.750 Check that. Like, is it owned by the... That would be interesting. 01:22:22.990 --> 01:22:28.150 Anyway, but it's... My understanding is the Mirror is not known for due diligence in journalism. 01:22:28.850 --> 01:22:29.090 Okay. 01:22:29.570 --> 01:22:37.030 Am I wrong? I'm not fully up on 01:22:37.030 --> 01:22:41.430 the nuances between different British publications. I'll be honest there. 01:22:42.030 --> 01:22:42.750 Let's see. 01:22:43.390 --> 01:22:44.150 The Mirror. 01:22:44.910 --> 01:22:45.750 Daily Mirror. 01:22:45.770 --> 01:22:46.370 What's the verdict? 01:22:46.670 --> 01:22:51.770 British, founded out of the Mirror, is owned by Raj VLC, Massa, 01:22:51.810 --> 01:22:56.450 Simply the Mirror, Sister Suba, Sunday Mirror, actually, no, 01:22:56.530 --> 01:22:59.770 I guess it's not owned by political alignment. and labor. 01:23:00.110 --> 01:23:02.570 Okay, so they are on the left. 01:23:02.690 --> 01:23:03.330 So they're leftish. 01:23:03.930 --> 01:23:06.690 Originally pitched to the middle class readers converted into a working class 01:23:06.690 --> 01:23:11.370 newspaper in 1934. The baby went through a protective period of crisis or death, blah, blah, blah. 01:23:13.490 --> 01:23:14.370 Nothing says that. 01:23:14.370 --> 01:23:18.210 Is it reputable or is it like the National Enquirer kind of trash? 01:23:19.090 --> 01:23:21.310 As far as I can tell, it is, 01:23:23.570 --> 01:23:24.010 reputable. 01:23:24.570 --> 01:23:28.350 Okay. Well, I haven't seen this anywhere else, and they're only citing one story. 01:23:28.350 --> 01:23:34.150 I confused Murdoch. I'm sorry. The Mirror was owned by Robert Maxwell. That's why. 01:23:36.250 --> 01:23:39.750 And they went through a very big crisis after he died because, 01:23:39.750 --> 01:23:46.170 I mean, Robert Maxwell was his, okay, Robert Maxwell's, Ghislaine Maxwell's 01:23:46.170 --> 01:23:51.190 dad, who is Epstein's, you know, 01:23:52.130 --> 01:23:55.150 Paramore, I guess. I don't know what the hell to call her. 01:23:55.270 --> 01:23:56.770 She acquired young girls for him. 01:23:56.890 --> 01:23:59.510 Yes. who is in jail right now, right? 01:24:00.250 --> 01:24:00.770 I believe so. 01:24:01.390 --> 01:24:05.130 So, yeah. But as far as I can tell, it's a regular paper. 01:24:06.570 --> 01:24:11.990 Okay, so they, and I am prefacing this by saying I've seen this nowhere else, 01:24:11.990 --> 01:24:15.270 and it's misinformation, and it's not backed up by anything other than a single 01:24:15.270 --> 01:24:16.650 person's accusation anyway. 01:24:16.990 --> 01:24:20.650 So take that with what you will. It is probably misinformation, 01:24:20.650 --> 01:24:25.270 and it's of the same level of quality as you probably had in, 01:24:25.470 --> 01:24:29.210 what was that stupid report? 01:24:29.410 --> 01:24:34.950 What was the stupid report called? The one with the first product, 01:24:35.030 --> 01:24:36.430 the pee tape and everything? 01:24:36.570 --> 01:24:39.530 Oh uh the dossier the steel the steel 01:24:39.530 --> 01:24:42.930 dossier right which which i think that consensus in 01:24:42.930 --> 01:24:45.910 the end was there's some aspects of 01:24:45.910 --> 01:24:48.730 truth sprinkled throughout it but also lots of clearly 01:24:48.730 --> 01:24:54.570 false stuff and that it probably was done specifically as russian misinformation 01:24:54.570 --> 01:25:01.850 about trump and russia to weaken trump in office seems to be what was actually 01:25:01.850 --> 01:25:08.030 happening there but anyway their their headline from yesterday, from February 21st. 01:25:08.190 --> 01:25:14.150 Donald Trump was recruited by KGB with codename Krasnov claims ex-Soviet spy. 01:25:14.590 --> 01:25:18.750 Former chairman of Kazakhstan's National Security Committee. 01:25:19.650 --> 01:25:25.830 Alnur Musayev, claims the Soviet KGB recruited Donald Trump before the collapse 01:25:25.830 --> 01:25:29.750 of the USSR, assigning him the alias Krasnov. 01:25:30.210 --> 01:25:36.610 And it goes on a little bit more with basically this guy who apparently was 01:25:36.610 --> 01:25:41.390 related to KGB at various points in Kazakhstan and in Moscow. 01:25:41.530 --> 01:25:44.190 He did counter intelligence, blah, blah, blah. 01:25:44.630 --> 01:25:51.290 So he's saying this. He was, let's see, he made another allegation in a social 01:25:51.290 --> 01:25:55.690 media post today, or I guess yesterday, for sometime this week. 01:25:55.890 --> 01:26:00.970 The personal file of resident Krasnov has been removed from the FSB. 01:26:01.210 --> 01:26:05.890 It is being privately managed by one of Putin's close associates. 01:26:07.990 --> 01:26:11.510 Anyway, I don't know, but this is obviously one source, no confirmation, 01:26:11.750 --> 01:26:13.650 but, but, but there is one thing that we. 01:26:13.690 --> 01:26:17.230 Here's the thing, here's the, here's the thing, just, just like the Steele dossier, 01:26:17.410 --> 01:26:23.530 I could easily see this being Russian propaganda in and of itself, 01:26:23.830 --> 01:26:28.010 whether or not Donald is actually has some sort of relationship, 01:26:28.010 --> 01:26:33.590 it's in Russia's interests to spread the notion that maybe he is. 01:26:34.370 --> 01:26:38.890 Now here, I, I, I, I, this is what, this is what, what, this is what, 01:26:39.010 --> 01:26:40.430 what, what, what would make sense. 01:26:40.810 --> 01:26:46.130 One of the things that I did here that in, in the recent call with, with, 01:26:46.790 --> 01:26:51.370 Putin, that a lot of the stuff that was being dangled in front of Trump was dollars. 01:26:52.210 --> 01:26:57.510 Basically, oh, you guys are going to make so much money because if you get rid 01:26:57.510 --> 01:27:01.550 of the sanctions, go back into Russia and then you'll make a killing. 01:27:02.310 --> 01:27:07.350 And I mean, look, he had been looking at he has been looking at so many deals 01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:11.490 with like name and buildings and real estate and things like right now that whatever. 01:27:11.490 --> 01:27:15.270 I mean, obviously, all he sees are dollar signs in front of him, 01:27:15.270 --> 01:27:17.910 which incent him to do all of this stuff. 01:27:18.110 --> 01:27:24.170 And then you plant the story where you get him to follow your talking points. 01:27:24.950 --> 01:27:30.170 You dangle a ton of money in front of him. And then you dangle this other story 01:27:30.170 --> 01:27:35.250 that basically says, yeah, this is because we control him for like since the last 30, 40 years. 01:27:35.250 --> 01:27:39.550 It completely plays into, you know, he's so easily manipulable and gullible 01:27:39.550 --> 01:27:41.530 that then we can also undermine him by doing. 01:27:41.750 --> 01:27:45.350 Absolutely. This ties in completely. And we had reached this conclusion and 01:27:45.350 --> 01:27:49.130 talked about it on the show before the Mueller report was released that the 01:27:49.130 --> 01:27:55.150 most likely explanation for everything is not is useful. Idiot. It is not. 01:27:55.450 --> 01:28:01.630 Trump is a knowing paid Russian spy or anything like that. It is useful. 01:28:01.930 --> 01:28:06.190 Idiot. It is he is easily manipulated and easily convinced. 01:28:06.190 --> 01:28:10.210 We'll send a Russian to buy his house in Palm Beach for $100 million. 01:28:10.330 --> 01:28:12.270 It was only worth $30 million. 01:28:12.710 --> 01:28:20.010 And also, by the way, just a natural alignment. He likes the authoritarian. He likes his dictators. 01:28:20.370 --> 01:28:23.870 He likes his. He loves his dictators. Loves his dictators. 01:28:23.990 --> 01:28:27.470 Not just Putin. There isn't a dictator he doesn't love. Exactly. Not just Putin. 01:28:27.690 --> 01:28:32.850 He loves his dictators. He thinks that the way Putin runs things is awesome. 01:28:33.130 --> 01:28:35.750 He, like, aspires to be like that. 01:28:35.810 --> 01:28:39.770 That's what he's trying to do now in the U.S. He wants to run the U.S. 01:28:40.810 --> 01:28:44.870 Modeled, exactly patterned after how Putin runs Russia. 01:28:45.410 --> 01:28:48.690 And that guy in Hungary, too, and a few others. But yes. 01:28:49.610 --> 01:28:53.770 But Orban, it's not. No, no, no. It's Putin. 01:28:54.090 --> 01:28:59.090 Look, it's not. Listen, Orban's economy is a lot smaller. 01:28:59.230 --> 01:29:06.190 He doesn't have the economic influence that Putin has or reputation that Putin has. 01:29:06.390 --> 01:29:08.690 It's Putin. His idol is Putin. 01:29:08.870 --> 01:29:15.250 I think it all comes down to natural alignment of interests and useful idiots. 01:29:15.410 --> 01:29:20.130 And even if they did give him a code name and all of this kind of stuff. 01:29:20.750 --> 01:29:21.710 Like, like he was like. 01:29:21.770 --> 01:29:25.850 It could be a code name for this manipulation. You know, it's right. 01:29:25.850 --> 01:29:27.930 That's what they coded the name for it. Yeah. 01:29:27.970 --> 01:29:34.970 It's not. I think recruited implies something else that I don't, 01:29:35.090 --> 01:29:37.730 I still don't believe right now, despite everything. 01:29:37.730 --> 01:29:44.730 I don't believe that like, you know, Trump is actually like every day just explicitly 01:29:44.730 --> 01:29:49.330 being like, oh, yeah, Putin's my boss and he pays me like on a monthly basis 01:29:49.330 --> 01:29:51.390 a regular stipend to do what he wants. 01:29:51.550 --> 01:29:54.250 You know, no, it's more complicated than that. 01:29:54.370 --> 01:30:00.750 But this anyway, I just thought this it was interesting, this article coming out now in the mirror. 01:30:01.250 --> 01:30:03.990 OK, let's take a break. and then one 01:30:03.990 --> 01:30:07.230 last thing and i'm gonna like i said i'm gonna shift gears directly 01:30:07.230 --> 01:30:10.490 or completely no politics 01:30:10.490 --> 01:30:13.810 but instead a topic that bruce 01:30:13.810 --> 01:30:20.850 requested that we talk about on the episode after and we just haven't so i think. 01:30:20.850 --> 01:30:27.150 Well bruce was bruce took over it's just hemorrhoids no not not hemorrhoids 01:30:27.150 --> 01:30:32.930 oh okay okay we'll talk about it after we get back here's another break It's a wiki of the day. Enjoy. 01:32:35.470 --> 01:32:39.550 Okay, before the real topic, there have been trumpets. 01:32:39.550 --> 01:32:40.690 It's not hemorrhoids. 01:32:40.910 --> 01:32:41.990 It's not hemorrhoids. 01:32:42.130 --> 01:32:45.990 But while we've been- Well, by the way, I was going to just say, we're not experts on it. 01:32:46.650 --> 01:32:51.950 No. You know, it- I'm an expert on it. 01:32:52.170 --> 01:32:54.670 We could bring up the- I don't have them. I don't have them. 01:32:54.790 --> 01:32:55.630 I'm just saying I'm not an expert. 01:32:55.930 --> 01:32:59.830 We could bring up the Wikipedia page and spend the next half hour talking about it. 01:32:59.830 --> 01:33:00.790 We could read it? 01:33:01.410 --> 01:33:05.270 We could read it. We could discuss it. Like, read a paragraph, discuss our thoughts. 01:33:05.790 --> 01:33:09.630 You know um well. 01:33:09.630 --> 01:33:17.170 Let's see uh h e hemorrhoid okay i i i could uh make a wiki of the day on. 01:33:17.170 --> 01:33:22.170 Yes there you go great uh you did well you had the four nations thing which 01:33:22.170 --> 01:33:30.350 i i you know uh hockey yeah did you watch i did watch a little bit i did not 01:33:30.350 --> 01:33:32.730 watch the whole thing because the schedule didn't work for me, 01:33:32.890 --> 01:33:39.730 but I did share some of the clips of the us getting booed at the anthem by the Canadians. 01:33:40.290 --> 01:33:44.670 And by the way, after they beat the U, because Donald Trump right now is 0-2 01:33:44.670 --> 01:33:50.010 and calling teams ahead of a game and having them lose the big game. 01:33:50.010 --> 01:33:53.110 He did that to Kansas City before they lost the Super Bowl. 01:33:53.370 --> 01:33:58.730 He did that to the U.S. team ahead of this, and now they are 0-2, 01:33:58.750 --> 01:34:00.530 so he has now been called the jinx. 01:34:01.450 --> 01:34:09.550 Okay, so to continue, hemorrhoids, also known as piles, are vascular structures in the anal canal. 01:34:10.350 --> 01:34:14.550 In their normal state, they are cushions that help with stool control. 01:34:14.790 --> 01:34:18.470 They become a disease when swollen or inflamed. 01:34:18.690 --> 01:34:22.890 The unqualified term hemorrhoid is often used to refer to the disease. 01:34:23.270 --> 01:34:27.110 The signs and symptoms of hemorrhoids depend on the type present. 01:34:27.770 --> 01:34:33.710 Internal hemorrhoids often result in painless, bright red rectal bleeding when defecating. 01:34:34.270 --> 01:34:39.430 External hemorrhoids often result in pain and swelling in the area of the anus. 01:34:39.610 --> 01:34:42.450 If bleeding occurs, it is usually darker. 01:34:43.010 --> 01:34:48.730 Symptoms frequently get better after a few days. A skin tag may remain after 01:34:48.730 --> 01:34:50.770 the healing of an external hemorrhoid. 01:34:51.150 --> 01:34:55.750 I think we've never used the word anus. I don't think we've ever used the word 01:34:55.750 --> 01:34:57.890 anus as often on this show. 01:34:58.490 --> 01:35:04.290 I don't know why not. You know, we could do more with that. 01:35:04.590 --> 01:35:05.210 I guess. 01:35:06.470 --> 01:35:10.030 I take it that's not what Bruce asked. What did Bruce ask him? 01:35:10.070 --> 01:35:16.050 No, Bruce specifically, the show that he co-hosted a few weeks back was the 01:35:16.050 --> 01:35:19.610 day the plane and the helicopter crashed in D.C. 01:35:20.190 --> 01:35:26.190 And he was like, I really want to hear Yvonne's thoughts on this. Now, since then. 01:35:26.190 --> 01:35:27.350 And then we had another. 01:35:27.630 --> 01:35:33.570 Yeah, since then, we had that Learjet crash in Philly and we had this one in 01:35:33.570 --> 01:35:35.410 Toronto that landed upside down. 01:35:35.410 --> 01:35:39.930 Now and and then a host of other private plane crashes but private planes crash 01:35:39.930 --> 01:35:43.830 all the time they've been so they've been they've been highlighted the last 01:35:43.830 --> 01:35:47.570 couple weeks more often than normal right people are looking out for plane crashes 01:35:47.570 --> 01:35:53.090 but frankly small private planes if you crash all the day if you're paying attention 01:35:53.090 --> 01:35:54.970 there's probably two or three of them every week. 01:35:54.970 --> 01:36:00.570 Yes it is so you know it is such a common occurrence that private private plane crashes. 01:36:00.570 --> 01:36:04.550 Oh there was a private aviation there was that other one that like some like 01:36:04.550 --> 01:36:08.810 member of motley cruise plane or something crashed in arizona too but that's 01:36:08.810 --> 01:36:13.090 also a private plane but it's also a private plane the the bigger private planes 01:36:13.090 --> 01:36:17.970 crash a little bit less often than the small ones but the two big not that even. 01:36:17.970 --> 01:36:24.050 Not that much less often i mean it's look general aviation in general is way 01:36:24.050 --> 01:36:29.010 way way way way way way more dangerous than commercial aviation. 01:36:29.010 --> 01:36:29.750 Okay that. 01:36:29.750 --> 01:36:35.430 That's just a fact. And yeah, I mean, I share occasionally some clips from this 01:36:35.430 --> 01:36:40.950 YouTuber that goes in detail and analyzes general aviation accidents on a regular basis. 01:36:40.950 --> 01:36:46.870 I'm using him because unfortunately, I used to watch another guy from the Airline 01:36:46.870 --> 01:36:52.630 Airplane Pilots Association, and he used to do that kind of analysis. 01:36:52.830 --> 01:36:54.330 Unfortunately, he died himself. 01:36:54.610 --> 01:36:55.570 In a plane crash? 01:36:55.650 --> 01:36:59.250 In a plane crash, yes. On a general aviation plane crash himself, 01:36:59.250 --> 01:37:04.730 yes. He was, he was the guy that did all the safety videos for them for years. And he died. 01:37:06.040 --> 01:37:11.940 A couple of years ago. And so they have been doing some now at AOPA, 01:37:12.220 --> 01:37:15.700 but it's not the same guy that they had before. He wasn't as good. 01:37:15.900 --> 01:37:21.040 And there is this guy called one Brown, whose YouTube channel is called Blanco 01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:24.180 Lerio, who is a triple seven pilot. 01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:32.300 He also was, if I remember correctly, he was a accident investigator in the military. Okay. 01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:37.560 When he was in the, when he, because he flew when he flew in the military. 01:37:38.400 --> 01:37:45.280 And so he does a lot of this. So he covers a lot of these general aviation accidents. 01:37:45.620 --> 01:37:51.160 And so if you watch his channel and you just go to his YouTube, 01:37:51.480 --> 01:37:55.760 you will see how many he has covered over the last couple of years of these 01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:59.520 small general aviation accidents that happened just all the freaking time. 01:38:00.300 --> 01:38:02.800 But talking about the one in D.C. specifically. 01:38:02.900 --> 01:38:04.880 Yeah, let's do the two commercial ones. 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:11.060 Yeah, because that's why I'm like, just the general aviation ones are just, you know, forget it. 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.780 Say that there's not a lot, there's not more of them. It's noise. 01:38:15.100 --> 01:38:21.100 It doesn't really. The two commercial ones are two accidents that happen with 01:38:21.100 --> 01:38:24.320 very different factors involved. 01:38:25.660 --> 01:38:27.460 You know, in D.C. 01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:29.140 Let's do D.C. first. 01:38:29.340 --> 01:38:34.760 The issue in D.C. is that that airspace is very, very crowded. 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:43.980 There is a helicopter, basically an air route that actually goes right just 01:38:43.980 --> 01:38:51.560 under where the airspace that leads to Runway 33 at National. Okay. 01:38:52.060 --> 01:39:01.540 And one of the things I have seen, it isn't uncommon for helicopter traffic to go around airports, 01:39:01.780 --> 01:39:06.400 to go fly either above it, because if you fly high enough above, 01:39:06.540 --> 01:39:08.940 it doesn't matter if you're flying straight above the airport. 01:39:09.100 --> 01:39:11.400 I mean, it doesn't really impact operations. 01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.680 Many times they will get clearance if they're going to cross at an altitude 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.240 that may impact aviation. they'll get that. 01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:23.660 Now, in the case of the one in DC, they have this air route where they basically 01:39:23.660 --> 01:39:27.080 specify that military aircraft they can go through there as long as they stay 01:39:27.080 --> 01:39:29.820 under 200 feet. Problem is that, 01:39:31.040 --> 01:39:36.300 That, that's very difficult, especially in the type of aircraft they were operating 01:39:36.300 --> 01:39:40.040 and also with the equipment that they were using. 01:39:40.280 --> 01:39:41.540 You're talking the helicopter. 01:39:41.820 --> 01:39:46.420 Yes, the helicopter, because the helicopter is the one that needs to stay clear 01:39:46.420 --> 01:39:47.900 of the commercial aircraft. 01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:53.880 Now, you're having a plane, it's coming in for a landing, it's a national to the main runway. 01:39:54.060 --> 01:39:58.740 They asked them to circle to runway 33. That happens normally because it was 01:39:58.740 --> 01:40:04.480 a spacing issue. If they came in, they may have to wind up doing a go around 01:40:04.480 --> 01:40:08.620 because the runway, I believe somebody was lining up to take off. 01:40:08.740 --> 01:40:11.200 They wanted to have them lined up so that way you could have that plane land. 01:40:11.340 --> 01:40:15.280 And then the other one took off and the traffic flow goes a lot faster. 01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:18.840 And it's very common for them to get requests to go around to that runway instead 01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:20.680 of landing on the one that they were set up for. 01:40:21.280 --> 01:40:23.400 They were just coming in for the landing. 01:40:24.120 --> 01:40:28.400 And look, the helicopter was flying through the airspace. 01:40:29.120 --> 01:40:34.980 They did not stay at the the altitude that they were supposed to be at they 01:40:34.980 --> 01:40:42.320 it's pretty clear that they misidentified the air traffic and a large part of that is they were told. 01:40:42.320 --> 01:40:44.400 To look out for the plane visually and. 01:40:44.400 --> 01:40:49.440 They saw a wrong plane and they confirmed several times that they had the traffic 01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:53.040 in sight we have to traffic in sight but the problem was that they were doing 01:40:53.040 --> 01:40:57.700 this exercise using those damn night vision goggles in the city. 01:40:58.180 --> 01:41:02.820 And look, I don't understand why the hell they were. 01:41:02.820 --> 01:41:03.900 Was it a specific training? 01:41:04.080 --> 01:41:04.360 It was training. 01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:07.060 It was training on how to use the night vision goggles. 01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:10.720 They weren't doing a training on it. They were doing a check ride. 01:41:10.900 --> 01:41:15.640 Every once in a while, you have to do a ride to certify your proficiency. 01:41:15.900 --> 01:41:18.880 So this was one of those rides, okay, where they were doing that. 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:24.540 But the reality is that those damn goggles have a lot of, 01:41:25.150 --> 01:41:30.790 They have a lot of drawbacks, okay? Number one, you're wearing them in an environment 01:41:30.790 --> 01:41:32.890 like a city that is so lit up. 01:41:34.350 --> 01:41:39.430 There's so much light that it starts washing out everything, okay? Number one. 01:41:39.810 --> 01:41:44.730 Number two, peripheral vision with those damn things is very limited. 01:41:45.150 --> 01:41:48.930 It really severely restricts your peripheral vision, okay? 01:41:49.410 --> 01:41:54.370 Number three, your depth perception gets fucked up with those things as well. 01:41:54.370 --> 01:41:58.810 So when you're looking at three airplanes that are up in the air and you're 01:41:58.810 --> 01:42:03.670 trying to pick which one it is, they 100% convinced that they were looking at 01:42:03.670 --> 01:42:05.550 this aircraft that was way further out. 01:42:05.930 --> 01:42:10.830 Well, it was the one that was like right there, but it was probably in a blind spot. 01:42:11.050 --> 01:42:16.610 This helicopter also has a lot of the windows aren't like these wide, expansive windows. 01:42:16.850 --> 01:42:19.490 They had a lot of blind spots in them. 01:42:21.150 --> 01:42:24.430 Yeah, it is an older helicopter. It had a lot of blind spots. 01:42:24.670 --> 01:42:29.290 And on top of that, this wasn't like the latest fucking version of this helicopter. 01:42:29.490 --> 01:42:32.170 They didn't have ADS-B. They weren't using it. 01:42:32.590 --> 01:42:36.370 At the altitude, they were in under 500 feet. There were some TCAS warnings. 01:42:36.530 --> 01:42:39.950 But unfortunately, TCAS, which is Traffic Collision and Avoidance System, 01:42:40.090 --> 01:42:43.110 usually at above over 1,000 feet, it will tell both aircraft, 01:42:43.270 --> 01:42:49.230 hey, go, hey, you know, turn left, turn right, go, go, you know, climb, descend. 01:42:49.710 --> 01:42:52.870 And so it will tell, and you follow the directions of the TCAS. 01:42:52.970 --> 01:42:55.830 Because the TCAS will talk to each other and they'll tell one plane to climb 01:42:55.830 --> 01:42:58.850 and the other one to descend. So that way they're not both going in the same way. 01:42:59.150 --> 01:42:59.230 Right. 01:42:59.350 --> 01:43:05.270 Under a thousand feet, you can't, TCAS is disabled. It will give you a warning that there's traffic. 01:43:05.510 --> 01:43:07.670 I mean, fundamentally, the problem is you can't tell. 01:43:07.890 --> 01:43:10.490 You can't tell a plane to descend if they're already at 350 feet. 01:43:10.790 --> 01:43:12.170 What are you going to do? Where are they going? 01:43:13.250 --> 01:43:18.330 So that's the problem. And that helicopter, because it was one of the older 01:43:18.330 --> 01:43:22.410 helicopters, that one was a completely analog. 01:43:23.290 --> 01:43:26.970 Helicopter there's no no no fancy like 01:43:26.970 --> 01:43:29.830 altitude like you know something to hold 01:43:29.830 --> 01:43:33.330 altitude specifically at two feet with automatic they 01:43:33.330 --> 01:43:36.290 have none of that okay so look a hundred 01:43:36.290 --> 01:43:39.930 foot deviation flying by hand is 01:43:39.930 --> 01:43:43.030 not is not out of the ordinary now the 01:43:43.030 --> 01:43:45.910 one thing is that and they they actually right now 01:43:45.910 --> 01:43:48.770 finally stopped helicopter traffic from 01:43:48.770 --> 01:43:51.950 going through there there had been a 01:43:51.950 --> 01:43:54.950 history of close calls on that route 01:43:54.950 --> 01:43:59.550 with the helicopters and the damn planes coming way too close there have been 01:43:59.550 --> 01:44:06.170 hundreds of them okay of close encounters there that was just a stupid route 01:44:06.170 --> 01:44:11.470 to be flying it was it was unfortunately flown at night it was flown with the 01:44:11.470 --> 01:44:13.170 damn night vision goggles. 01:44:14.250 --> 01:44:18.350 You know, so you had a whole bunch of hindrances. It was a helicopter that wasn't 01:44:18.350 --> 01:44:20.430 the latest, greatest, most sophisticated one. 01:44:21.230 --> 01:44:26.610 And another thing is just a question of, you know, just bad luck of timing. 01:44:26.930 --> 01:44:32.110 I mean, they just literally just came together at that exact same moment that 01:44:32.110 --> 01:44:33.110 they crossed through there. 01:44:33.370 --> 01:44:38.210 And probably a hundred other times, you know, they don't exactly. 01:44:38.510 --> 01:44:41.150 It would just be another entry on the list of close calls. 01:44:41.470 --> 01:44:46.690 Close calls. Yep. But this time they were right there at the exact time at the 01:44:46.690 --> 01:44:52.270 exact moment and they hit and the helicopter hit them and and the guys on the 01:44:52.270 --> 01:44:54.690 American Airlines flight didn't even have a chance of react. 01:44:55.090 --> 01:44:58.290 They had they had no they didn't know what the fuck happened. 01:44:58.850 --> 01:45:01.070 They just had no they they now. 01:45:01.330 --> 01:45:08.110 Although I think the if I remember right the the the the cockpit recorder did. 01:45:08.270 --> 01:45:09.370 There was a warning. 01:45:09.770 --> 01:45:12.530 They knew there was traffic. They knew like half a second in advance or something. 01:45:12.530 --> 01:45:15.030 But no, no, but they knew that. But listen, they knew there was traffic. 01:45:15.970 --> 01:45:19.470 Right. But I mean, specifically, like, correct me if I'm wrong. 01:45:19.590 --> 01:45:22.690 I thought the data showed that they didn't have enough. 01:45:22.850 --> 01:45:23.150 They got a TCAS warning. 01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:27.950 They had enough time to try to react. They tried to actually change the plane's 01:45:27.950 --> 01:45:29.950 attitude, but it was too late. They couldn't do it. 01:45:30.030 --> 01:45:32.790 It was too late. Yeah. Well, it wasn't just, it was just not enough time. 01:45:32.890 --> 01:45:37.130 But they got a TCAS warning. But the problem is that it was one of those TCAS warnings. 01:45:37.310 --> 01:45:38.110 It doesn't tell you what to do. 01:45:38.550 --> 01:45:45.350 Exactly. And, you know, it's not like airline pilots expect that on final, 01:45:45.770 --> 01:45:49.190 you know, I, you, you prepare for so many things. 01:45:49.710 --> 01:45:53.130 You're not, you're not expecting another airplane to hit you when you're like 01:45:53.130 --> 01:45:54.970 at 350 feet about the land. 01:45:55.610 --> 01:45:58.670 That's not what you're, you're at that point. You're just, you know, 01:45:58.870 --> 01:46:01.910 you're cruising, you're comfy, you're coming in now. Yeah, we're going to land. 01:46:02.050 --> 01:46:02.810 No problem. Boom, boom, boom. 01:46:04.570 --> 01:46:09.590 Now you, you, before moving on to Toronto, you met, you mentioned that you know, 01:46:10.170 --> 01:46:13.190 being off by a hundred feet when you're doing it manually is, 01:46:13.190 --> 01:46:18.090 uh, is not uncommon, is not uncommon, but would you say this still is probably, 01:46:18.430 --> 01:46:23.250 is there, are they going to pin this on pilot error of the helicopter in the 01:46:23.250 --> 01:46:27.330 end or is there, or there's systematic things here that. 01:46:27.490 --> 01:46:30.330 Well, there is a systematic issue with the fact that, I mean, 01:46:30.450 --> 01:46:38.910 that corridor, that was just way too narrow a margin of clearance between that 01:46:38.910 --> 01:46:40.630 route for the helicopters. 01:46:40.990 --> 01:46:43.490 But they're still going to conclude the pilot fucked up. 01:46:43.690 --> 01:46:46.990 Yeah, they're going to conclude the pilot fucked up because they were supposed 01:46:46.990 --> 01:46:50.470 to be at 200 feet or under and they were over 100 feet above. 01:46:50.770 --> 01:46:53.410 But what I'm saying is that, 01:46:54.170 --> 01:46:59.810 Pilots committing errors, 100 plus minus feet on occasion, okay, 01:47:00.130 --> 01:47:04.190 flying manually is typical. It happens, okay? 01:47:04.570 --> 01:47:09.050 You know, that's not, you know, that isn't like, that is, you know, 01:47:09.190 --> 01:47:15.990 it is something that you plan for, basically, that, you know, 01:47:16.070 --> 01:47:18.990 you're going in an altitude and you're going at 2,000 feet, 3,000 feet. 01:47:19.270 --> 01:47:23.130 I mean, there's a reason why we keep aircraft a thousand foot separation, okay? 01:47:23.130 --> 01:47:26.210 Minimum separation flying 01:47:26.210 --> 01:47:29.350 a cruise is a thousand feet and it's 01:47:29.350 --> 01:47:32.650 there for a reason because if you did a hundred feet you know look 01:47:32.650 --> 01:47:36.070 planes would be crashing into each other regularly okay that's 01:47:36.070 --> 01:47:40.290 just you know that's why it's a thousand feet a thousand feet is good enough 01:47:40.290 --> 01:47:44.330 that any pilot being plus or minus a hundred feet whatever because they fucked 01:47:44.330 --> 01:47:47.250 I mean because there's so many reasons you could have a hundred feet deviation 01:47:47.250 --> 01:47:51.610 hell you forgot to change your barometric pressure on the altimeter that'll 01:47:51.610 --> 01:47:52.910 fuck you up by a hundred feet 01:47:53.130 --> 01:47:58.570 There's been so many crashes that have been predicated on a mistake that has been that, 01:47:58.950 --> 01:48:02.790 you know, hey, you had a minimum descent altitude, okay, that you had to be over. 01:48:03.130 --> 01:48:07.510 They crossed it and they had their, this is an accident, I remember, 01:48:07.630 --> 01:48:10.670 and they had set the barometric pressure incorrectly. 01:48:10.810 --> 01:48:15.830 And so when they did so, you take that they went below, but then you add the 01:48:15.830 --> 01:48:21.350 error from the altitude, boom, they crashed. And so it's, you know, 01:48:21.470 --> 01:48:23.030 that's why you keep a thousand feet. 01:48:23.410 --> 01:48:27.110 That separation was that they had on that route made no sense. 01:48:27.450 --> 01:48:30.690 And also error on the part of them. 01:48:31.050 --> 01:48:40.390 I keep saying there is no justification for doing that kind of night vision training. 01:48:40.690 --> 01:48:41.730 Certification, whatever it was. 01:48:41.990 --> 01:48:45.930 Or, you know, exactly on that route at that location. 01:48:45.930 --> 01:48:51.010 You're not flying into a fucking city with night vision goggles for the most part, 01:48:52.690 --> 01:48:58.950 that is a possible military mission if the power is not cut off you're going 01:48:58.950 --> 01:49:02.770 into a city where power has been cut off and you use night vision goggles sure, 01:49:03.430 --> 01:49:12.910 but a city that is lit up when I look the one time I got fucking lost flying, 01:49:13.710 --> 01:49:18.950 was flying at night with all the damn city lights over Indianapolis, okay? 01:49:19.570 --> 01:49:23.470 Me and my instructor, we were heading to Indianapolis International Airport, 01:49:23.590 --> 01:49:28.510 and with the damn city lights, we got confused where the fuck we were, okay? 01:49:28.970 --> 01:49:33.770 And it got to a point, it was bad, it was so bad. Look, we stayed at, 01:49:33.870 --> 01:49:35.050 now we stayed at altitude. 01:49:35.250 --> 01:49:38.610 We stayed at 2,000, 3,000 feet. Because we're like, I can't see this fucking 01:49:38.610 --> 01:49:40.410 airport. Where the fuck is this airport? 01:49:41.370 --> 01:49:44.910 And embarrassingly enough, we got on the radio and called the tower and said, 01:49:44.910 --> 01:49:47.390 Hey, can you tell us where the hell we are? 01:49:47.850 --> 01:49:51.410 And all of a sudden we get told you're flying right over the airfield. 01:49:52.200 --> 01:49:53.940 You couldn't see it because it was under you. 01:49:54.240 --> 01:49:59.680 Yes. But that's how bad we misjudged it, that it got lost in the city lights 01:49:59.680 --> 01:50:05.460 so bad that we approached it and flew over it and we couldn't make it out. 01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:11.420 And so that's the reason why you don't fucking use those damn night vision goggles 01:50:11.420 --> 01:50:15.120 when what they will do with all that lights is wash out everything. 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:17.360 Looking at a damn city. 01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:21.980 I want to move on to Toronto real quick before we wrap up the show. 01:50:21.980 --> 01:50:26.300 But first, a public service announcement. This is important. 01:50:27.020 --> 01:50:33.740 And you can take this either as a hint of where you want to go look or as a 01:50:33.740 --> 01:50:37.180 hint of something to avoid based on your own personal preferences. 01:50:37.540 --> 01:50:43.860 Okay? And I just want to say that that Wikipedia page I was reading about hemorrhoids 01:50:43.860 --> 01:50:51.520 has quite a few close-up pictures of anuses with hemorrhoids. 01:50:52.140 --> 01:50:55.440 So, again, depending on your personal preferences. 01:50:55.440 --> 01:50:57.640 Okay, so you probably don't want to look it up at work. 01:50:57.780 --> 01:51:03.040 Well, probably not at work, but depending on your personal preferences, maybe this is like. 01:51:03.200 --> 01:51:04.060 You're not going to go there at all. 01:51:05.620 --> 01:51:11.480 Well, but maybe there's some people who are like, oh, wow, I want to go investigate that resource. 01:51:13.020 --> 01:51:15.200 Or perhaps you'll want to avoid it. 01:51:17.060 --> 01:51:18.840 You're giving a warning. 01:51:19.280 --> 01:51:22.380 I am giving. yeah well this is. 01:51:22.380 --> 01:51:23.100 A content warning. 01:51:23.100 --> 01:51:26.560 Well no no it's it's only a warning for the people who don't want to see it 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:31.300 that's what i'm saying yeah for the people who do want to see it it's advice 01:51:31.300 --> 01:51:35.700 you know it is a nice place you can go see if you want this kind of content oh. 01:51:35.700 --> 01:51:39.140 God jesus christ okay i'm like that was a mistake. 01:51:39.140 --> 01:51:45.220 I i was gonna say like personally i'm on the i would have preferred if i had 01:51:45.220 --> 01:51:47.100 not scrolled down on that page i. 01:51:47.100 --> 01:51:51.160 Yeah i yeah god okay yeah let's not scroll down. 01:51:51.160 --> 01:51:54.220 On that page again ever okay vaude 01:51:54.220 --> 01:51:58.640 with that out of the way what happened in toronto oh and by the way i should 01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:04.420 say right up front important difference between these two crashes in dc everybody 01:52:04.420 --> 01:52:12.940 everyone died in toronto everyone lived yes remarkably but everyone lived some 01:52:13.260 --> 01:52:16.180 some significant injuries but like everyone lived. 01:52:16.180 --> 01:52:19.280 So toronto was a delta flight that 01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:22.960 was arriving at toronto international airport and it 01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:30.420 was in a stabilized approach all the way up until right before landing okay 01:52:30.420 --> 01:52:34.120 or it seemed like it was in a completely stable approach you you look at the 01:52:34.120 --> 01:52:39.100 data they weren't like descending too hard or so forth they seem to be on the 01:52:39.100 --> 01:52:41.800 glide They seem to be going there. The winds were gusty. Okay. 01:52:43.110 --> 01:52:46.910 Nothing that a commercial airline pilot doesn't regularly see. 01:52:47.830 --> 01:52:51.530 But what the data showed, what seemed to happen near the end, 01:52:51.690 --> 01:52:57.670 is that near the end, the descent rate accelerated right as it was about to 01:52:57.670 --> 01:53:01.590 land. And you didn't see a flare on the plane. So basically a flare. 01:53:01.850 --> 01:53:06.130 OK, so as you're landing, you usually kind of like in a little bit of a on a 01:53:06.130 --> 01:53:10.050 small plane, you're kind of at a down nose approach. But you keep your nose down on the plane. 01:53:10.170 --> 01:53:15.130 You slow down to your approach speed. You usually approach about 130, 150 knots. 01:53:15.430 --> 01:53:17.170 You're going, you got your flaps extended. 01:53:17.790 --> 01:53:21.190 And so you're slowing down. The plane is coming down gently, 01:53:21.310 --> 01:53:25.210 gently, gently about to land. And just like as you're around 50 feet, 01:53:25.410 --> 01:53:28.010 all of a sudden you actually pull the nose up a little bit to slow down the 01:53:28.010 --> 01:53:30.330 rate of descent. So you come down nice and gently. 01:53:30.550 --> 01:53:35.110 Okay. All right. That's basically what you're doing. So this airplane, as it arrived. 01:53:35.110 --> 01:53:38.670 And by the way, if you've played with a flight simulator of any kind on your 01:53:38.670 --> 01:53:44.910 computer or your console or whatever, you yeah that's part of what you do if 01:53:44.910 --> 01:53:46.770 you want a successful landing but. 01:53:46.770 --> 01:53:50.250 Most people fail on the simulator because most people that are just playing 01:53:50.250 --> 01:53:53.430 with it just playing on it usually just slam the damn planes on the runway. 01:53:53.430 --> 01:53:57.470 Well yeah most people are playing like and look to get that right and the planes. 01:53:57.470 --> 01:53:58.750 Can take a big hit by the way. 01:53:58.750 --> 01:54:00.010 Because I've slammed. 01:54:00.010 --> 01:54:00.870 The plane on the runway. 01:54:00.870 --> 01:54:07.110 Accidentally and if you're playing in the simulator like that like landing is 01:54:07.110 --> 01:54:12.030 a lot harder than taking off way harder It is a lot harder than flying. 01:54:12.430 --> 01:54:17.730 Any idiot could do the takeoff. Landing is where you make your money. 01:54:17.810 --> 01:54:20.350 And even flying straight and level is pretty easy, too. 01:54:20.410 --> 01:54:22.010 It's pretty damn easy, too. Yes. 01:54:22.130 --> 01:54:27.210 And on the flight simulators, you can learn how to do various stunts and survive. 01:54:27.570 --> 01:54:30.730 And like, you know, but landing is hard. 01:54:30.990 --> 01:54:32.470 Landing right is hard. 01:54:33.030 --> 01:54:37.290 Like, I mean, I've played with flight simulators for years and years and years, 01:54:37.310 --> 01:54:43.030 not every day or anything. and I can land successfully, but still probably like 01:54:43.030 --> 01:54:45.550 a significant portion of my attempts fail. 01:54:46.170 --> 01:54:49.270 And it probably, if it were a real plane that you were landing, 01:54:49.490 --> 01:54:52.450 most of the people on the plane would be coming off the plane quite angry. 01:54:53.310 --> 01:54:56.430 Yes, yes. If they came off the plane alive. 01:54:56.650 --> 01:54:58.530 If they came off the plane alive, yes. 01:54:58.850 --> 01:54:58.950 Right. 01:54:59.050 --> 01:55:04.950 Okay. So it seemed like, as I was mentioning, you know, the plane is coming in for its landing. 01:55:05.530 --> 01:55:08.610 Approach speed looks fine. They were configured for a landing. 01:55:09.010 --> 01:55:13.690 But right as they neared, like, less than 100 feet, the sink rate accelerated, okay? 01:55:14.110 --> 01:55:20.330 And so speculation has been that because you're looking at the speed that they were approaching at, 01:55:20.670 --> 01:55:26.930 because of the strong gusts, that maybe they hadn't added enough extra speed 01:55:26.930 --> 01:55:30.770 to compensate for the fact that because the winds are gusty, 01:55:30.910 --> 01:55:33.650 all of a sudden, the wind could slow down. 01:55:33.650 --> 01:55:37.790 And if the wind slows down all of a sudden at the wrong moment and you had not 01:55:37.790 --> 01:55:39.790 added enough extra thrust. 01:55:40.540 --> 01:55:45.860 The plane will just drop like a rock, okay? And that's what it seemed like happened. 01:55:46.160 --> 01:55:50.700 All of a sudden, near the end of the approach, looking at the speed, 01:55:50.820 --> 01:55:54.760 the speed seemed like it was more like a speed for a normal approach. 01:55:55.480 --> 01:56:04.420 And the plane all of a sudden came down very, very quickly and well before the normal landing point. 01:56:04.820 --> 01:56:08.340 And so when the plane came down super quickly, 01:56:08.340 --> 01:56:11.620 it hit so hard it broke off 01:56:11.620 --> 01:56:15.100 the right wing and what 01:56:15.100 --> 01:56:18.720 happened is that the plane cartwheeled because 01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:23.900 well the left wing was still intact so it was generating lift so it just went 01:56:23.900 --> 01:56:28.900 and as the plane slid forward that lift that plane that wing still had lift 01:56:28.900 --> 01:56:34.020 and it flipped the damn plane over just as it was landing fortunately because 01:56:34.020 --> 01:56:38.400 it was at landing and because they were in a controlled approach, 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:42.780 even though they lost a wig and even though the plane flipped over, 01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:48.320 you know, thankfully nobody, you know, most, most of the people were able to 01:56:48.320 --> 01:56:49.920 get on off the plane uninjured. 01:56:50.100 --> 01:56:52.880 Yeah. There are some that had some more severe injuries. 01:56:53.260 --> 01:56:57.400 But 18 that ended up in the hospital. And I think like two of them were fairly 01:56:57.400 --> 01:57:01.680 critical, but you know, but even they are expected to. 01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:04.560 Recover everyone so everyone lived 01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:07.380 so so yeah i mean i just think that 01:57:07.380 --> 01:57:10.800 it it looks like i mean from the first stuff 01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:16.020 that i've seen it may just be that they they misjudged how much speed they needed 01:57:16.020 --> 01:57:21.400 to add you know because of the strong gusts that there were and there could 01:57:21.400 --> 01:57:26.440 have been just the wind you know as the wind sometimes does especially in a 01:57:26.440 --> 01:57:30.440 gusty situation the gust came in picked them up real quick, and then all of a sudden, 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:34.220 the wind just died down, and they didn't have enough extra speed on it, 01:57:34.260 --> 01:57:35.880 and the plane just hit the runway hard. 01:57:36.580 --> 01:57:41.040 But, well, hard, but look, way harder than normal. I mean, because, 01:57:41.100 --> 01:57:43.400 look, hard landings happen to everybody. 01:57:43.660 --> 01:57:47.680 I mean, I've been in commercial planes doing hard landings quite a lot of times. 01:57:47.900 --> 01:57:53.000 I will say, especially when I was learning to land a plane, believe me, 01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:57.600 almost every early plane was a hard landing. Every landing was a hard landing. 01:57:57.940 --> 01:58:02.180 I mean, my instructor was like, at one point, ow! 01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:07.440 How many of these are we doing? Can you stop just dropping us like a rock on the runway? 01:58:08.640 --> 01:58:13.560 So it took a while to learn not to do that, okay? You know? So, 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:15.640 yeah, you know, hard landings happen. 01:58:17.220 --> 01:58:24.080 But this, all it just seems, it was just a landing that was way harder than normal. 01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:27.900 And one of the things that, obviously, there's not enough information yet, 01:58:27.900 --> 01:58:31.480 and we'll see if more information comes up. 01:58:31.480 --> 01:58:36.180 Whether there was prior damage or repair or something that happened that maybe 01:58:36.180 --> 01:58:40.980 led to that wing being weaker than it normally would have been. 01:58:41.140 --> 01:58:45.640 Because there was a recent accident that actually happened with a private plane, 01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:51.480 I will say, but that came to mind when we were doing this, where it was a private 01:58:51.480 --> 01:58:58.180 plane that landed very hard and the landing gear on one side failed. 01:58:58.180 --> 01:59:04.560 OK, and they wound up crashing into another plane that was that was on the tarmac, 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:06.200 unfortunately, and killed those people. 01:59:06.480 --> 01:59:09.420 And when they were going through the records of the aircraft. 01:59:09.820 --> 01:59:15.140 They had found that apparently they had recently had a repair on that on that 01:59:15.140 --> 01:59:18.460 on that landing gear that failed on landing. 01:59:18.460 --> 01:59:21.100 So so obviously people are going to 01:59:21.100 --> 01:59:23.980 be looking at at that information to see 01:59:23.980 --> 01:59:26.960 whether there was something in the in the history of 01:59:26.960 --> 01:59:30.280 the repairs of the plane i mean having had 01:59:30.280 --> 01:59:33.960 repairs that that unfortunately 01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:37.380 later on came to cause a crash is unfortunately 01:59:37.380 --> 01:59:42.560 something that does happen it doesn't happen very often but but it it unfortunately 01:59:42.560 --> 01:59:47.520 is something that has happened in the past so that is something that they will 01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:52.120 look at or it may have just been that they'd really really hit the runway that 01:59:52.120 --> 01:59:56.520 damn hard at that moment but but like i said the from the data that we've got. 01:59:57.040 --> 02:00:01.060 Adsb data is the same as the flight recorder data once they get the they don't 02:00:01.060 --> 02:00:04.840 have that yet once they have that that data pulled up and then we'll look at 02:00:04.840 --> 02:00:09.340 that of course we don't we never even talked about the jeju air crash in in 02:00:09.340 --> 02:00:12.740 in south korea like that that happened a while back where that one. 02:00:12.940 --> 02:00:15.400 Well, we don't know what the hell happened on that one, by the way. 02:00:15.540 --> 02:00:16.660 This is one of those things. 02:00:17.060 --> 02:00:20.380 There's a lot of also commercial airline crashes outside North America. 02:00:20.500 --> 02:00:25.800 North America is one where we just haven't had barely any. 02:00:26.320 --> 02:00:32.120 But in the rest of the world, I mean, you've got a lot of them too, 02:00:32.700 --> 02:00:34.980 okay? Far more than in the U.S. 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.980 And, you know, we have so... 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:43.260 There are different requirements for airline pilots in the U.S. 02:00:43.500 --> 02:00:50.340 There's also a, the feed of Air Force pilots, 02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:59.700 how many are ex-military pilots that turn into commercial pilots is huge in the U.S., okay? 02:00:59.860 --> 02:01:05.400 And the training standards for our military are superb, 02:01:05.980 --> 02:01:13.800 okay, for, you know, for pilots, OK, our our military pilots are I can safely 02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:16.880 argue they are the best trained there. They are the best in the world. 02:01:17.180 --> 02:01:20.960 And so you get those guys that come off of doing that and, you know, 02:01:21.740 --> 02:01:25.060 and go straight into commercial aviation that you've got, you know, 02:01:25.120 --> 02:01:30.260 the level of the average level of pilot. And by the way, the U.S. 02:01:30.300 --> 02:01:36.020 Also has and has had for many years, due to some earlier accidents, 02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:44.020 much higher requirements for minimum flight hours for anybody flying commercial. 02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:52.280 In the rest of the world, they will put pilots, a lot of pilots with 500 hours 02:01:52.280 --> 02:01:58.320 into a co-pilot seat or whatever, you know, in order for them to pick up hours. In the U.S. 02:01:58.380 --> 02:02:03.300 Many years ago, because of certain incidents that happened, the minimum got 02:02:03.300 --> 02:02:09.120 raised to like 1,500 hours, if I remember correctly. It's over 1,000. 02:02:09.780 --> 02:02:18.500 And that is a much, much, you know, that is a much higher threshold than the rest of the world has. 02:02:18.700 --> 02:02:21.800 Some have argued that that's created a pilot shortage. OK, 02:02:22.360 --> 02:02:29.860 but at the same time, I truly believe that a big reason why our commercial aviation 02:02:29.860 --> 02:02:37.920 is that much safer is because that is the level of experience that we demand from anybody behind a, 02:02:38.120 --> 02:02:40.120 you know, flying a commercial airline. 02:02:40.280 --> 02:02:42.400 Do we have better maintenance requirements as well? 02:02:42.400 --> 02:02:48.600 And the maintenance requirements also. We have the maintenance systems, 02:02:49.220 --> 02:02:54.200 requirements, audits, everything. You know, it's just, yeah. 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:58.660 Yvonne, just to be clear, we're getting regulations. 02:02:59.600 --> 02:03:01.640 Yeah, amazingly enough, huh? Can you believe that? 02:03:02.060 --> 02:03:04.060 Oh, well, we're going to get rid of all those anyway. 02:03:04.380 --> 02:03:06.180 Yeah, we'll get rid of all of those and then we're fine. 02:03:06.420 --> 02:03:12.080 And we're firing half of all the people who work in those areas anyway. 02:03:12.400 --> 02:03:14.660 So NTSB, FAA, we don't need those things. 02:03:15.300 --> 02:03:16.400 Yeah, we don't need that shit. 02:03:17.300 --> 02:03:19.660 Sorry to distract with the political stuff. 02:03:19.880 --> 02:03:22.520 Yeah, we don't need any of that shit. Regulations. Regulations! 02:03:23.200 --> 02:03:26.700 Any other plane crashes you want to review real quick before we wrap this sucker up? 02:03:27.660 --> 02:03:32.900 I'll tell you this. If you guys want to go see a hard landing that didn't cause it a crash, okay? 02:03:33.260 --> 02:03:36.180 In the Blanco Area Channel, there is one from April 2023. 02:03:37.300 --> 02:03:41.860 There is a really cool hard landing of a Cargo Lux. 02:03:42.080 --> 02:03:47.920 If you look up Cargo Lux 747-400 Cablamo. Okay. 02:03:49.400 --> 02:03:56.300 There is. it's a 747-8 the latest one that has a really, 02:03:57.060 --> 02:04:02.800 hard fucked up landing that they wind up going around afterwards but it's one 02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:05.960 of those videos where you're like you want to see a hard landing that's why 02:04:05.960 --> 02:04:12.200 I'm still wondering if was there some kind of repair on that plane that failed 02:04:12.200 --> 02:04:16.840 because you look at how hard that plane landed and it still was able to go around, 02:04:17.460 --> 02:04:21.800 you're like wow so how come this one couldn't Resist that one. So. 02:04:22.240 --> 02:04:28.380 Okay. Well, let's wrap this up. Curmudgeons-corner.com. Go there. Find our archives. 02:04:28.920 --> 02:04:32.980 Find all the ways to contact us. 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So we'll see what happens then. I don't know. 02:05:17.340 --> 02:05:19.420 I basically, I'm just lazy. I don't want to add that. 02:05:20.060 --> 02:05:23.080 But you know, and but yeah, find all the links to everything, 02:05:23.260 --> 02:05:27.200 including our Patreon, where you can give us money at various levels. 02:05:27.280 --> 02:05:29.640 We will mention you on the show, we will send you a postcard. 02:05:29.740 --> 02:05:30.980 I still have not sent the postcards. 02:05:31.120 --> 02:05:34.160 We'll send you a mug. I still have not sent the mug. 02:05:34.580 --> 02:05:40.660 Sorry, folks who I owe those things to, I will eventually, I've been kind of busy and yeah. 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:45.720 And at $2 a month or more, or if you just ask us, we will invite you to our 02:05:45.720 --> 02:05:49.160 curmudgeons corner slack where Yvonne and I, and a bunch of listeners are chatting 02:05:49.160 --> 02:05:53.000 throughout the week, sharing links, all that kind of fun stuff. 02:05:53.140 --> 02:05:54.400 The more the merrier, please. 02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:58.800 If you're listening, ask to join. We would love to have you there. 02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:01.040 Oh, and tell all your friends about the show. 02:06:01.200 --> 02:06:07.300 Get more people listening, damn it. And follow us on TikTok and YouTube and all that stuff. 02:06:07.600 --> 02:06:11.940 And guys that can donate a million dollars for Patreon. Yeah, they will. 02:06:12.400 --> 02:06:16.720 Please, please. It doesn't even have to be a million dollars a month. 02:06:16.940 --> 02:06:18.080 It can be $500,000. 02:06:18.870 --> 02:06:23.350 Okay. So Yvonne, any highlights from the Slack this week that will make people 02:06:23.350 --> 02:06:24.930 really, really want to join us there? 02:06:25.510 --> 02:06:31.090 Any highlights from the Slacker Dome? Let's see. What do we got here? 02:06:31.770 --> 02:06:35.450 Um, let me see. Let me see. 02:06:35.850 --> 02:06:39.170 You're making it sound like this week Slack was a real loser. 02:06:39.290 --> 02:06:47.710 There are things, just I'm not, you know, there's a lot of things. Well, the asteroid. 02:06:48.830 --> 02:06:49.550 Ah, yes, the asteroid. 02:06:49.810 --> 02:06:54.230 So, Justin, NASA says that there's now a 3.1% chance an asteroid will hit Earth 02:06:54.230 --> 02:06:56.690 in 2032, up from 2.6% yesterday. 02:06:57.270 --> 02:06:59.770 That is the highest risk assessment an asteroid has ever received, 02:06:59.850 --> 02:07:03.170 surpassing 2.7% in 2004. That's not an Earth killer. 02:07:03.990 --> 02:07:08.370 Unfortunately, there's also an update. More recently, since I shared that, 02:07:08.470 --> 02:07:11.050 the odds have dropped to less than half a percent. 02:07:11.510 --> 02:07:15.910 But apparently, the odds are increasing of it hitting the moon. instead. 02:07:16.550 --> 02:07:17.770 Oh, what the fuck? 02:07:18.430 --> 02:07:23.550 Now, if this thing does hit, I think it's like a quarter of a percent now or something like that. 02:07:23.770 --> 02:07:26.590 But it's not a, this one's not an earth killer. 02:07:26.810 --> 02:07:31.110 No, it is. It is a, it is a city killer potentially, but even then they, 02:07:31.110 --> 02:07:35.530 they actually, they actually were, they're not sure if it'll actually hit the 02:07:35.530 --> 02:07:38.630 planet at all or not, but apparently they have a good, pretty good idea. 02:07:39.010 --> 02:07:41.810 If it hits the planet, where it would hit the planet. 02:07:42.210 --> 02:07:47.930 It, it's a, it's a path that stretches from, from the west coast of South America 02:07:47.930 --> 02:07:52.810 up through the Atlantic Ocean across the Middle East and into India. 02:07:53.580 --> 02:07:57.820 And and and northern africa as well i forgot to mention northern africa on the 02:07:57.820 --> 02:08:02.560 way to the middle east that that's the path that it could hit so even if it 02:08:02.560 --> 02:08:06.700 did hit there's a significant chance of ocean and if it missed the ocean there's 02:08:06.700 --> 02:08:11.680 a significant chance of like the middle of the sahara desert or other most of the earth is most. 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:15.200 Of the earth is water i mean that's the reality that's why you know even though 02:08:15.200 --> 02:08:19.640 we've gotten hit by these things before the reality is that most the damn earth is war. 02:08:20.060 --> 02:08:24.240 Yes. So, well, and most of the land is not cities either. 02:08:24.360 --> 02:08:24.940 It's not city. 02:08:25.000 --> 02:08:29.900 Most of the land is land. Most of the and. Most of the land is relatively unpopulated 02:08:29.900 --> 02:08:32.140 as well because human populations. 02:08:32.380 --> 02:08:36.940 The bland. The clustered shavings. Well, you know, we had that one that hit 02:08:36.940 --> 02:08:38.740 like Siberia, right? Yeah. 02:08:39.140 --> 02:08:43.800 Well, we, the two most famous ones were one in the early 1900s. 02:08:43.860 --> 02:08:48.780 There was the big one in Siberia that was, you know, really large, 02:08:49.260 --> 02:08:55.300 it was felt around the world essentially, but then there was an expedition to 02:08:55.300 --> 02:08:59.420 go find it and found hundreds of square miles of flattened trees and such. 02:08:59.640 --> 02:09:04.160 And then there was the one from just a few years ago that was a big fireball 02:09:04.160 --> 02:09:06.140 that impacted in Russia. 02:09:06.260 --> 02:09:11.480 And there were lots of broken windows and a few injured people, but no one killed. 02:09:12.100 --> 02:09:18.040 So they happened occasionally, But this was the biggest risk on that risk scale 02:09:18.040 --> 02:09:21.520 that has been determined so far since they've created it. And we've been doing 02:09:21.520 --> 02:09:22.620 good asteroid tracking. 02:09:23.040 --> 02:09:26.100 But it now looks like the odds of it hitting the Earth are dropping. 02:09:26.720 --> 02:09:29.860 The odds of it hitting the moon are increasing. Last I heard, 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:31.840 it was like 1% chance of hitting the moon. 02:09:32.020 --> 02:09:34.460 So when is Elon setting up his moon colony? 02:09:34.920 --> 02:09:40.020 And this was like 2032 or something. So not that far in the future when this 02:09:40.020 --> 02:09:44.580 thing was going to hit. But it's still a much bigger chance that it'll miss 02:09:44.580 --> 02:09:45.680 both the Earth and the Moon. 02:09:46.130 --> 02:09:47.310 But, you know. 02:09:47.370 --> 02:09:51.030 So so when is Elon setting up his moon colony so we can just he. 02:09:51.030 --> 02:09:55.470 Elon is very much against doing anything with the moon. He wants to go straight to Mars. 02:09:55.870 --> 02:10:01.910 He's only agreeing to, like, do some moon stuff because NASA is paying him to. 02:10:02.250 --> 02:10:03.970 But he wants to just go to Mars. 02:10:04.510 --> 02:10:06.770 But don't worry, things hit Mars all the time, too. 02:10:07.070 --> 02:10:12.930 That's true. I really would like to accelerate his launch to Mars. 02:10:13.690 --> 02:10:15.430 His personal launch to Mars. 02:10:15.570 --> 02:10:16.510 Correct. Yes. 02:10:17.710 --> 02:10:18.530 He hasn't ever written in his own rockets. 02:10:18.530 --> 02:10:22.550 Now, I know this week, because he was all talking so much smack about the ISS 02:10:22.550 --> 02:10:26.730 and whatever, Mark Kelly, the astronaut, went on X and said, Listen, you coward. 02:10:26.930 --> 02:10:31.190 What are you getting on one of your rockets, you freaking coward? This is what we get. 02:10:31.190 --> 02:10:33.610 He should have been in that car they launched. 02:10:34.230 --> 02:10:39.330 Yes. That would have been great. Apparently, it's about to crash back into Earth soon. 02:10:39.670 --> 02:10:46.110 No, it's not. That was also... It was identified as a list of potential Earth-crossings. 02:10:46.130 --> 02:10:49.650 Asteroids, but then they determined it was a car, but it doesn't have a... 02:10:49.650 --> 02:10:51.790 No, but I thought that they said that the orbit was also decaying. 02:10:51.790 --> 02:10:56.770 It was potential Earth crossing, but it does not. It was ruled out. 02:10:56.830 --> 02:10:58.370 It's not going to hit the Earth anytime soon. 02:10:58.430 --> 02:10:58.750 No, it won't. 02:10:59.710 --> 02:11:03.130 It's one of those where every few years it'll come somewhat close to the Earth, 02:11:03.290 --> 02:11:05.490 and maybe eventually it'll hit the Earth. 02:11:05.670 --> 02:11:09.510 But even if it did, it's small enough it would just burn up and re-entry. 02:11:10.610 --> 02:11:15.110 Okay, we are done here. Thanks everybody for joining us for yet another curmudgeon's 02:11:15.110 --> 02:11:20.310 corner as usual have fun stay safe blah blah blah tell your friends your friends 02:11:20.310 --> 02:11:26.470 already you know yeah goodbye bye, 02:11:58.890 --> 02:12:01.450 Okay, we're out. I'm hitting stop. 02:12:01.510 --> 02:12:02.570 We're out. Stop.