WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:01.850 Okay, here we go. Intro, go! 00:00:21.930 --> 00:00:28.330 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Friday, February 14th, 2025. 00:00:28.330 --> 00:00:30.870 It's just after three UTC. 00:00:31.670 --> 00:00:34.350 I'm Sam Minter and Yvonne Boas here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:00:37.130 --> 00:00:37.690 Hello. 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:44.150 So as usual, I guess we're going to do a but first. 00:00:44.370 --> 00:00:50.530 And as I've promised, I am ready to resume media and talking about movies and TV and stuff. 00:00:50.890 --> 00:00:55.170 And then we'll do more serious topics later on, as time allows. 00:00:55.530 --> 00:01:01.130 Some from Yvonne, some from me. so you got any light and frothy stuff to start 00:01:01.130 --> 00:01:03.890 with or should i jump in i don't. 00:01:03.890 --> 00:01:06.730 Have time today so i i've got a 00:01:06.730 --> 00:01:13.910 5 a.m flight i'm back in puerto rico again i don't i don't i don't know what 00:01:13.910 --> 00:01:22.310 what's what what what is you know i know i okay i guess the the only one tidbit 00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:25.550 now we'll mention this and I'll make sure I keep it super short like right now for one minute. 00:01:25.970 --> 00:01:30.490 I keep coming back to San Juan. There is one thing. This island's too fucking small. 00:01:31.150 --> 00:01:35.970 Because I keep going to places and I keep bumping into people I know from high 00:01:35.970 --> 00:01:38.710 school. I go around where I live. 00:01:39.270 --> 00:01:44.230 I think one recent time like last year when you were in Puerto Rico you mentioned the same thing. 00:01:44.590 --> 00:01:47.950 This fucking island is way too damn small man. Look, 00:01:48.150 --> 00:01:51.790 I mean I go to like the gym in Boca and 00:01:51.790 --> 00:01:54.690 I bump into people i know but the reality is that 00:01:54.690 --> 00:01:57.690 me going to a restaurant there whatever blah 00:01:57.690 --> 00:02:01.050 blah blah bumping up people that doesn't happen okay it 00:02:01.050 --> 00:02:05.790 doesn't fucking happen okay and i went to i went to a restaurant last week for 00:02:05.790 --> 00:02:10.030 lunch and one of my high school classmates was there and came across from the 00:02:10.030 --> 00:02:15.870 other side hey how you doing and then you know and then um and then it's a very 00:02:15.870 --> 00:02:19.470 loud dog And then yesterday, 00:02:19.950 --> 00:02:24.450 I went to work out at – there's a local – I go to Orange Theory Fitness. 00:02:24.450 --> 00:02:26.110 There's one actually near the hotel. 00:02:26.270 --> 00:02:29.450 And I went there, and there's another high school classmate of mine there saying 00:02:29.450 --> 00:02:31.270 hi to me. I'm like, what the fuck is this? 00:02:31.670 --> 00:02:37.490 We're only 90 – listen, dude. We're only 90 people and about 100 people that 00:02:37.490 --> 00:02:40.350 went – my high school class. It's not like we're 3,000. 00:02:41.290 --> 00:02:45.570 It's like two in two straight weeks. Like, you know, two straight weeks here. 00:02:45.650 --> 00:02:46.450 It's fucking ridiculous. 00:02:47.190 --> 00:02:50.790 So, yeah, this fucking island is way too damn small is what I realized. 00:02:51.710 --> 00:02:57.130 Very good. Okay. Good enough. I will do one. 00:02:57.930 --> 00:03:01.690 I may, I mean, going forward, need to do like two a week to catch up. 00:03:01.770 --> 00:03:03.730 But I'm only going to do one. I'm going to do one. 00:03:03.810 --> 00:03:04.030 Okay. 00:03:05.070 --> 00:03:08.230 And that is Mitchell and the Machines. 00:03:08.230 --> 00:03:12.090 I thought you were going to talk about Mitch McConnell for a second, but no. Okay. 00:03:12.790 --> 00:03:19.210 No, not this time. Now, to be fair, I have talked about Mitchell versus the 00:03:19.210 --> 00:03:21.890 Machines. Let me get it right. 00:03:23.210 --> 00:03:26.970 But I have talked about it on the show once before. I watched it in 2022, 00:03:26.970 --> 00:03:33.870 and apparently, for whatever reason, it came up again, and I watched it again in 2024, in May. 00:03:35.630 --> 00:03:42.250 And I'm going to give this one a thumbs up. It is a, it was a movie that was 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:44.590 here in the U S it was a Netflix movie. 00:03:44.710 --> 00:03:47.150 I don't know if they introduced it internationally and other places, 00:03:47.210 --> 00:03:50.190 but it was, uh, it was, it was a Netflix movie. 00:03:50.290 --> 00:03:52.050 I see 2021. 00:03:52.730 --> 00:03:59.350 Yeah. And it's a cartoon. It's sort of a, it's a little bit of a comedy slash 00:03:59.350 --> 00:04:02.390 adventure slash whatever. Anyway, big thumbs up. 00:04:02.670 --> 00:04:09.030 I, I, I really enjoyed this movie. Like I watched it twice. I enjoyed it just 00:04:09.030 --> 00:04:10.430 as much the second time around. 00:04:10.690 --> 00:04:11.250 What was it about? 00:04:12.230 --> 00:04:13.950 Okay, so basically... 00:04:13.950 --> 00:04:17.290 You know, just took the super short, short cliff notes. 00:04:17.470 --> 00:04:24.870 The super high-level version of it. There is this guy who is clearly modeled 00:04:24.870 --> 00:04:27.370 on Steve Jobs and Apple. Okay. 00:04:27.490 --> 00:04:27.670 Okay. 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:33.610 And he is introducing the newest version of the personal assistant. 00:04:33.610 --> 00:04:37.510 So the old one was like Siri and he's on a phone. 00:04:37.690 --> 00:04:41.870 The new one, the new one is like an actual robot. 00:04:42.130 --> 00:04:42.610 Okay. 00:04:42.990 --> 00:04:50.470 And so the thing is, surprise, surprise, the robots turn evil and try to take over the world. 00:04:51.220 --> 00:04:53.980 Such an original plot at this point. 00:04:56.060 --> 00:05:02.740 And basically, this one family, you know, ends up being the family that ends 00:05:02.740 --> 00:05:06.840 up having to fight and deal with this invasion. 00:05:06.940 --> 00:05:07.100 Beat the robot. 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:11.800 Like, because for whatever reason, and you see it happen in the thing, 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.920 they end up not captured by the robots. 00:05:15.140 --> 00:05:19.040 Whereas, like, the entire rest of the population of Earth was captured by the robots. 00:05:19.200 --> 00:05:19.480 Okay. 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:25.860 And the thing is, it's funny. It's heartwarming in the right places because 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:28.760 it's got like, you know, there's the thing about them going, 00:05:28.880 --> 00:05:31.560 going off, you know, fighting the robots and all that kind of stuff. 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:36.720 But also there's a thing about the daughter's relationship with her dad and 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:41.440 the, you know, and there's, you know, some family dynamic stuff going on because 00:05:41.440 --> 00:05:44.680 it's all, they're also having a road trip together and not getting along while 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:45.700 they're having the road trip. 00:05:45.700 --> 00:05:50.920 And then there's a couple of robots that are comic relief type of things. 00:05:51.860 --> 00:05:54.240 Furbies make a cameo at one point. 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.300 Oh, Furby! Furby! Yeah! 00:05:58.320 --> 00:06:03.180 Anyway, I give it a thumbs up. I enjoyed the movie. Let's see. 00:06:03.960 --> 00:06:08.360 Reception, 53 million households watched it in the first 28 days. 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:13.120 The Rotten Tomatoes score is 97%. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.000 Milds, pretty good. Okay. 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.440 That's pretty good. The site's critic consensus reads, 00:06:19.100 --> 00:06:28.360 eye-catching and energetic, the Mitchells versus the machines delivers a funny 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:32.720 feel-good story that the whole family can enjoy. There you go. Anyway. 00:06:33.900 --> 00:06:34.380 Okay. There you go. 00:06:34.660 --> 00:06:40.560 There's my media. So we can wrap up the but first really fast and get to the 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:42.300 serious stuff so you can get the hell out of here. 00:06:42.580 --> 00:06:43.180 Go sleep. 00:06:43.180 --> 00:06:43.280 Leave. 00:06:43.460 --> 00:06:46.080 Oh, come on. Yeah, we have to be up early. 00:06:46.900 --> 00:06:49.780 Okay, well, this break will do. Here we go. 00:07:32.080 --> 00:07:35.900 I need to make more music. That's clearly my real career. 00:07:36.220 --> 00:07:39.880 Yes. That's my future. Yes. 00:07:41.280 --> 00:07:45.680 That thing right there, it's amazing. It hasn't won a Grammy already. 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:47.760 I know. I'm shocked. 00:07:48.260 --> 00:07:49.060 Yeah, exactly. 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.140 Shocked and appalled. Just like Susan. 00:07:51.280 --> 00:07:51.440 Okay. 00:07:52.660 --> 00:07:53.760 Always shocked and appalled. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.380 She's concerned. 00:07:55.780 --> 00:07:59.580 Concerned. She's always concerned. Very concerned. It's always very concerned. 00:07:59.580 --> 00:08:03.180 Okay. So a lot has actually happened this week. including some stuff just in 00:08:03.180 --> 00:08:05.980 the last few hours. Where do you want to start, Yvonne? 00:08:07.320 --> 00:08:10.540 Which stuff are you talking about the last few hours? Which ones? The tariffs? 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.640 No, the last few hours is the Mayor Adams stuff with all the people resigning. 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:20.260 Well, no, there was other tariff stuff that happened during those hours, 00:08:20.260 --> 00:08:21.380 too, if you didn't notice. 00:08:21.700 --> 00:08:25.980 Oh, so why don't you start with tariffs, and then I can talk about Mayor Adams 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:27.120 and some of the other stuff in the next thing. 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.840 Well, the thing is that Trump went and announced this whole thing about, 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:38.440 reciprocal tariffs, which Sam remembered that it wasn't a Clancy novel back 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:42.640 in the 90s, but you remembered the wrong novel. 00:08:42.880 --> 00:08:46.840 Yeah, I said some of all fears, because that's really the one I always go to 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.480 whenever I mention a Clancy novel. 00:08:49.280 --> 00:08:53.520 It was the one after it was a debt of honor, not some of all fears, 00:08:53.800 --> 00:09:02.760 which that was the start of a conflict with Japan specifically was the reciprocal tariffs. 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:06.660 And so he did the announcement, 00:09:07.400 --> 00:09:11.820 And then very shortly after, but they were starting immediately, 00:09:12.180 --> 00:09:16.520 then said that he postponed them. I don't know. 00:09:16.580 --> 00:09:20.500 This is what he's done with every tariff so far. Every single one so far. 00:09:20.820 --> 00:09:21.940 Except the China ones. 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.260 True China did go into effect. 00:09:24.680 --> 00:09:28.360 Yeah, except the China one. But every single other one, it's been, 00:09:28.580 --> 00:09:32.500 I mean, he literally went, like, not, like, I mean, 00:09:33.140 --> 00:09:37.200 it's probably why you missed it, because it happened almost like, 00:09:37.400 --> 00:09:42.040 I'm like, I'm reading the announcement first about the tariffs and then I'm going to wait. Huh? 00:09:42.300 --> 00:09:47.260 Well, I missed the immediate part because I saw an update earlier today. 00:09:47.460 --> 00:09:50.300 There's like some group is going to study it and blah, blah, 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.760 blah, and come back with recommendations, blah, blah, blah. 00:09:52.940 --> 00:09:54.420 So look, this was... 00:09:54.940 --> 00:09:58.080 I mean, I know a few days ago he said it was going to start today. 00:09:58.940 --> 00:09:59.820 1910 UTC. 00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:00.780 Yes. 00:10:01.380 --> 00:10:04.260 Trump moved... Bloomberg News, breaking news. 00:10:04.260 --> 00:10:08.140 trump moved to impose reciprocal 00:10:08.140 --> 00:10:11.040 tariffs on u.s training partners with no clear doubt 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:14.140 there okay yeah because then he said with no clear date 00:10:14.140 --> 00:10:17.320 when it would take effect because originally said immediate and so 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.700 that's why it actually happened so quickly then bloomberg 00:10:20.700 --> 00:10:23.640 was able to combine it into 00:10:23.640 --> 00:10:26.680 the one breaking news thing 00:10:26.680 --> 00:10:29.820 because others said oh trump announced let 00:10:29.820 --> 00:10:32.620 me see it's got to be let me see in 00:10:32.620 --> 00:10:36.040 in in in in cnbc they 00:10:36.040 --> 00:10:41.700 because they went and i saw hey tariffs tariffs tariffs are coming okay trump 00:10:41.700 --> 00:10:46.300 signed sweeping reciprocal tariff plan says more coming that was seven hours 00:10:46.300 --> 00:10:53.880 ago okay okay and then so that one that i wrote from Bloomberg was a little bit later. 00:10:54.980 --> 00:10:56.860 Oh, yeah, we don't know the date. 00:10:59.060 --> 00:11:06.440 So, people said that the stock market went up today because they were like, yeah, whatever. 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.680 He's just going to say every week there's fucking tariffs to somebody. 00:11:09.980 --> 00:11:11.440 I'm like, whatever. Who cares? 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:18.540 And then he's going to back off most of them. And so, who the fuck cares? 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.900 Well, yeah, and this, like, at least in theory, the notion is for each one of 00:11:23.900 --> 00:11:28.460 these individual countries, they'll give some sort of concession and it'll result 00:11:28.460 --> 00:11:32.100 in the backing off or there'll be the holes and exceptions. 00:11:32.100 --> 00:11:35.140 There'll be some victory, yeah. Well, I mean, I'm sure that, 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.760 you know, also we had the aluminum and steel tariffs that he announced. 00:11:39.060 --> 00:11:40.320 Right, right. Those were like a day. 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:44.240 Which those were also a couple of days ago. I'm going to guess that he's going 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:45.540 to back them off pretty quick. 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.340 Coke Cola today. You know, we know he loves Diet Coke. 00:11:48.860 --> 00:11:52.000 And I don't know if you've noticed that for the most part, he drinks it out 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.660 of a can. And I don't know if you've noticed that. 00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:56.840 I have not noticed, but okay. 00:11:57.040 --> 00:11:59.240 But usually he is drinking it out of a can. 00:12:00.250 --> 00:12:04.590 Coke said today that if they do put those aluminum tariffs in, 00:12:04.770 --> 00:12:10.410 that they may have to reduce making almost any of their products in aluminum 00:12:10.410 --> 00:12:13.670 and have to use plastic in the U.S. 00:12:13.670 --> 00:12:13.930 Okay. 00:12:14.590 --> 00:12:22.770 So if he gets a hold of that, well, that will put a hole already in the aluminum tariffs right away. 00:12:23.490 --> 00:12:26.370 Just Donald Trump's consumption of Diet Coke. 00:12:26.650 --> 00:12:27.070 Yes. 00:12:29.150 --> 00:12:34.430 oh you don't think i'm being you don't think i'm being rational i'm not analyzing 00:12:34.430 --> 00:12:40.710 this rationally of course he's like if they tell him hey boss yeah he said they 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:45.770 can't make the diet coke anymore because of your aluminum tears i'll cancel him it. 00:12:45.770 --> 00:12:46.770 Wouldn't be surprising. 00:12:46.770 --> 00:12:52.610 I mean And I mean, I fully expect that's going to be the case. 00:12:55.590 --> 00:13:01.330 Look, I mean, the things to remember here are all of these are performative 00:13:01.330 --> 00:13:07.290 and all of them are transactional and nothing is well thought out either. 00:13:07.550 --> 00:13:08.890 No, no, no. 00:13:08.890 --> 00:13:12.930 Yeah. And this applies not just to the tariffs, but practically anything else 00:13:12.930 --> 00:13:19.570 he's been doing so far, because the whole theory of operations is, hey, nobody can stop me. 00:13:19.670 --> 00:13:24.350 I can do whatever the fuck I want. So I'm just going to like order what I want 00:13:24.350 --> 00:13:27.790 and then figure it out later. 00:13:27.790 --> 00:13:32.470 and so sometimes that means things are getting stopped by the courts sometimes 00:13:32.470 --> 00:13:36.630 that means things are having unintended consequences beyond what he wanted. 00:13:36.630 --> 00:13:41.510 Sometimes it means that here's another one that he said today well here's another 00:13:41.510 --> 00:13:47.250 one that he said today that led to a massive drop in defense stocks real quickly 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:52.430 this was today this is all fucking today this fucking i hate this goddamn administration, 00:13:54.750 --> 00:14:00.650 today this was at 3.53pm this was like after the fucking tarot thing the Fed 00:14:00.650 --> 00:14:03.430 stocks dropped after Trump says pentabon, 00:14:05.580 --> 00:14:08.860 Pentagon spending. Yes, Pentagon spending. 00:14:09.740 --> 00:14:09.880 Yes. 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:12.080 Halved. Okay? 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:12.600 Yes. 00:14:12.820 --> 00:14:18.480 And then a couple of hours later, he's telling the Europeans, 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.900 hey, you need to buy more American weapons. 00:14:22.260 --> 00:14:27.780 And then right afterwards, he tells Modi, hey, can I tell you some F-35s? 00:14:28.560 --> 00:14:30.120 That was this afternoon. 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.180 I don't even know what to say. Like, look. 00:14:34.560 --> 00:14:37.580 What the heck did he talk to? Was that today, too? 00:14:37.920 --> 00:14:40.240 I think so. Wasn't it this morning? 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.820 What the heck did this goddamn illustration? 00:14:46.760 --> 00:14:54.820 For those of you on audio only, Yvonne is, like, holding his head in his hands. And, yeah. 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:56.080 That was all today! 00:14:57.260 --> 00:15:00.940 Yes. That is all today. Like, he... 00:15:01.740 --> 00:15:07.340 And here's the thing. And this, this, this comes back to several themes we've 00:15:07.340 --> 00:15:12.140 had before. Like we've talked about, look at what they do, not what they say. 00:15:13.060 --> 00:15:19.320 And we've, we've talked about, you know, I don't know, like I have a note here. 00:15:19.400 --> 00:15:22.660 One of the things I wanted to talk about process versus results versus appearance. 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:28.640 Like, because on the one hand, he's saying all of these really alarming things, 00:15:28.640 --> 00:15:35.140 but only some of them actually end up translating into actions. 00:15:35.140 --> 00:15:39.280 Now, the ones that do translate into actions are almost universally bad. 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:47.260 But even when it's just him talking like you're it's the president of the fucking United States. 00:15:47.520 --> 00:15:47.900 Exactly. 00:15:48.100 --> 00:15:51.760 You know, when he says something, people can't just ignore it. 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.260 They have. Yeah. So. So, yes, he says something about, you know, 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.060 cutting the Pentagon spending in half and the stock market goes crazy. 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:00.960 Right. 00:16:01.500 --> 00:16:08.080 You know, and, and, and, and meanwhile, people are also having to take seriously, 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:10.920 okay, if you actually did cut it in half, what would that look like? 00:16:11.280 --> 00:16:15.740 What would happen? Like, what, what would that mean to our defense posture and 00:16:15.740 --> 00:16:17.680 all of this kind of stuff? And, 00:16:18.740 --> 00:16:25.080 So you have to pay some attention to what he says, even if it doesn't, like, happen. 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:33.780 But you also have to, like, sort of calm down, wait a little bit, see what does happen. 00:16:34.060 --> 00:16:37.660 Because, like you said, announce tariffs and then unannounce them five minutes later. 00:16:38.260 --> 00:16:44.760 Did you see what Elon's kid said? I sent the video. I don't think that was doctored. 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.720 No, he said several things. One of them was sort of like, you're, 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.160 you're not the real president. You have to get out of here. 00:16:51.520 --> 00:16:53.420 Uh, one of the things he said. 00:16:53.420 --> 00:17:00.680 Yes, yes, he did. 00:17:01.640 --> 00:17:06.460 He, I think he also said something about you have to shut up now as well. 00:17:06.620 --> 00:17:11.160 At one point it was something similar. I might not be word for word. 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:17.940 Um, you know, and, and people are like, of course he's just imitating his dad. what his dad says. 00:17:18.120 --> 00:17:22.580 Right? It has to be. I didn't come up with that shit. He's like, what, four? 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:24.400 Something like that four. 00:17:25.360 --> 00:17:26.720 I'm sure you're his dad. 00:17:26.860 --> 00:17:29.100 Named Axe, of course. His name is Axe. 00:17:29.320 --> 00:17:34.040 Fuck, I swear to God. You know, that kid, when he turns into a teenager, 00:17:34.340 --> 00:17:36.280 will fucking hate his father. 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:41.820 I mean, I can put money right now down and guarantee that one right now. 00:17:42.660 --> 00:17:44.140 Like the rest of Elon's kids. 00:17:44.300 --> 00:17:48.040 Like the rest of his kids. I mean, not exactly. I'm not exactly. 00:17:48.060 --> 00:17:49.900 What's he got now, like 15 or something? 00:17:50.020 --> 00:17:51.780 Oh, who knows? I don't know. 00:17:52.340 --> 00:17:55.540 You know, because Elon's also, of course, said that, you know, 00:17:55.580 --> 00:17:59.520 it's part of his mission to sort of impregnate as many women as possible with 00:17:59.520 --> 00:18:00.660 as many kids as possible. 00:18:01.560 --> 00:18:05.640 You know, you know, you have to preserve his magnificent genes. 00:18:06.100 --> 00:18:12.060 Well, speaking of of this whole thing with with with how, you know, 00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:14.900 what he says versus what actually happened on that. 00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:15.200 Right. 00:18:15.320 --> 00:18:19.720 Right. You know, we've heard all the noise around what he's done, 00:18:19.740 --> 00:18:24.200 you know, with Elon in terms of job cuts and stuff. Right. OK, 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:25.820 so we've heard a lot of that. 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:31.000 And there was the New York Times had an actual like little tracker that they 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.300 put on how much he's actually done so far. 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.860 And, you know, we're talking really at this point. 00:18:40.710 --> 00:18:45.730 Really a handful of employees. Okay. And the thing is that the big thing was USAID. 00:18:46.070 --> 00:18:52.590 Where he did take that agency. You know, it's been, all their work has been stopped. 00:18:53.470 --> 00:18:53.630 Right. 00:18:54.510 --> 00:19:00.770 And there was a financial impact to a lot of farmers. 00:19:01.570 --> 00:19:06.230 Because they were, there was a big buyer of U.S. 00:19:06.950 --> 00:19:10.370 farm products. Billions of dollars of it. 00:19:10.710 --> 00:19:16.930 And so he completely screwed, Elon, a whole bunch of farmers that are now, 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:20.590 of course, that they voted for Trump and now are pissed off. 00:19:20.810 --> 00:19:24.050 We mentioned that last week. Part of it was the USAID, but apparently there 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:27.390 are other grants to farmers that were also paused. 00:19:27.610 --> 00:19:29.530 So they're basically getting screwed left and right. 00:19:29.590 --> 00:19:34.750 No, no, no. They were buying those farm products to give away the vote. 00:19:34.750 --> 00:19:38.870 No, I'm saying, yeah, yes, the USAID thing that you were mentioning, 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:42.430 but also other grants to farmers were also paused. 00:19:42.630 --> 00:19:44.910 So they're getting screwed left and right, you know? 00:19:45.010 --> 00:19:48.050 Yeah, so the farmers are like, you know, but all of a sudden, 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:49.850 as we have been mentioning, 00:19:50.710 --> 00:19:57.470 this is, the only people that seem to be MAGA that are complaining about stuff 00:19:57.470 --> 00:20:00.570 is when, now that they're actually, because they're not hurting the other people 00:20:00.570 --> 00:20:04.670 they expected to get hurt, because they're getting hurt, okay? Right. 00:20:04.870 --> 00:20:06.850 That's the only reason. That's the only reason. 00:20:07.110 --> 00:20:11.070 But the number of employees right now that has been impacted has been relatively 00:20:11.070 --> 00:20:13.470 small at this at this stage. 00:20:14.050 --> 00:20:19.850 I know that they're asking for, you know, you know, the all these people to be cut. 00:20:19.850 --> 00:20:25.630 The one group of employees that seems to be really getting hammered like right 00:20:25.630 --> 00:20:29.470 away is anybody that, you know, I don't even know. 00:20:29.650 --> 00:20:34.250 I've never been at a company that puts employees on probation for more than 30 days. 00:20:34.710 --> 00:20:37.770 Well, I didn't realize that the federal government like does that for, 00:20:37.890 --> 00:20:39.730 you know, for so many employees that for such. 00:20:40.070 --> 00:20:44.050 I saw that some provisions in federal government can last up to two years. 00:20:44.570 --> 00:20:47.590 Oh, OK. Yeah, because I was reading that and I was thinking, 00:20:47.750 --> 00:20:50.010 OK, that's just the 60 days or something. 00:20:50.230 --> 00:20:53.130 No, it was like probations that could be one to two years. 00:20:54.450 --> 00:20:55.170 That's crazy. 00:20:55.410 --> 00:20:59.010 It is a crazy amount of time. You 00:20:59.010 --> 00:21:02.170 know, yeah, I mean, I've never heard of probations that were that long. 00:21:02.370 --> 00:21:06.550 So so a lot of those people have been getting, you know, getting, 00:21:06.810 --> 00:21:12.110 you know, just just yeah, just fireball, which is just, you know, 00:21:12.490 --> 00:21:15.610 the whole thing about a lot of this. 00:21:15.690 --> 00:21:19.350 It's just There's just so There's just so, 00:21:20.850 --> 00:21:26.870 There's no thought to it. And, you know, it goes into, like, 00:21:27.030 --> 00:21:31.490 what Elon already did at Twitter, where he got rid of a whole bunch of people 00:21:31.490 --> 00:21:33.290 and then had to go call him. 00:21:33.470 --> 00:21:40.410 Hey, can you come back? We can't run this shit without you. You know? 00:21:40.550 --> 00:21:40.710 Right. 00:21:41.390 --> 00:21:50.310 Kind of a thing. So there's no method to the madness in any of this. 00:21:50.310 --> 00:21:57.550 And like you mentioned, they talk about the deficit, talk about the deficit, 00:21:57.550 --> 00:22:03.150 and that's why they're cutting the employees. The current annual deficit is 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:05.130 about to be two trillion dollars. 00:22:06.050 --> 00:22:13.050 You fired all the employees in the federal government. You could fire them all, all, all. 00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:17.290 My estimate is that maybe you could save 100 to 200 billion dollars total. 00:22:17.530 --> 00:22:20.250 That's it. That's firing them all. all of 00:22:20.250 --> 00:22:23.610 them the employee head count and the 00:22:23.610 --> 00:22:26.810 federal government is is like not even 00:22:26.810 --> 00:22:29.690 i mean it's like it's you know the the budget 00:22:29.690 --> 00:22:33.110 the budget is like four trillion dollars if i remember correctly right right 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:37.530 now five trillion no more like five six trillion dollars 200 billion dollars 00:22:37.530 --> 00:22:43.110 is nothing it's nothing out of that budget it's just nothing so they are going 00:22:43.110 --> 00:22:47.070 it's the entire performative thing because this goes and does shock and awe. 00:22:47.450 --> 00:22:49.870 This shows that we are in charge. 00:22:50.410 --> 00:22:53.930 We are going in and we're marching in and we're doing this. 00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:59.130 But really in terms of addressing the deficit, it's a complete joke. 00:22:59.350 --> 00:23:03.430 And it's a total joke, especially with the tax cuts they're talking about trying 00:23:03.430 --> 00:23:07.390 to do on the other end because, I mean, all of that will be eaten up with one 00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:10.370 of those tax cuts like that. Okay? Okay. 00:23:10.790 --> 00:23:14.130 So, so that's what I was going to say. 00:23:14.270 --> 00:23:20.050 Like lately, like, yes, in the past, there has been a lot of talk about deficits recently. 00:23:20.670 --> 00:23:25.790 Like when you hear Elon talk or whatever, it's all about like waste and inefficiency 00:23:25.790 --> 00:23:28.410 and fraud. That's what he keeps saying. 00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:33.270 Like, and saying that this, this or that is like, we shouldn't be spending money 00:23:33.270 --> 00:23:34.930 on that. We shouldn't be spending money on this. 00:23:35.090 --> 00:23:37.990 Of course, ignoring the fact that in almost all cases we're 00:23:37.990 --> 00:23:41.790 spending money because there was a law passed that said we should but yeah 00:23:41.790 --> 00:23:48.070 but you know basically fraud efficiency blah blah blah blah blah but that that's 00:23:48.070 --> 00:23:52.110 clearly not what they're actually doing and like you said like it's not about 00:23:52.110 --> 00:24:00.510 deficit either if anything it's about trying to pay for his tax cuts that he wants to do but now but. 00:24:00.510 --> 00:24:04.610 Even that isn't enough here here's a problem and i and i pulled this information 00:24:04.610 --> 00:24:11.110 today to try to understand why we are where we are related to the deficit in 00:24:11.110 --> 00:24:13.210 taxes. And look, since 2015. 00:24:14.510 --> 00:24:18.370 The last 10 years, our U.S. 00:24:18.510 --> 00:24:22.670 GDP has grown about somewhere over 50 odd percent. 00:24:22.970 --> 00:24:28.070 Okay. So the economy has had huge growth over the last 10 years. 00:24:28.330 --> 00:24:33.910 The problem is tax receipts have barely gone up less than 10 percent. 00:24:34.210 --> 00:24:37.210 And that does not compute. That is not sustainable. 00:24:37.550 --> 00:24:42.490 You can't be in an economy that is growing that added $10 trillion, 00:24:42.910 --> 00:24:45.950 okay, to the economy over that 00:24:45.950 --> 00:24:50.410 time period and only collect an extra few hundred billion in extra taxes. 00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:53.870 There's just no way. It shouldn't be that way. 00:24:54.010 --> 00:24:58.790 And that's a big thing with all these damn tax cuts that have come in with the 00:24:58.790 --> 00:25:00.830 Trump administration and, you know, 00:25:00.890 --> 00:25:06.890 in his administration at first that went and like took revenues down 2020 you 00:25:06.890 --> 00:25:10.310 know the the pandemic also caused an expansion of the deficit, 00:25:10.870 --> 00:25:15.290 and the reality is that tax receipts did not start growing again until biden 00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:20.090 came into office again okay because there were some tax increases there were 00:25:20.090 --> 00:25:23.770 some loophole schools there were because he went and he put people in the irs 00:25:23.770 --> 00:25:26.430 so they would go after collecting taxes from people, 00:25:27.110 --> 00:25:33.970 These guys, what they want, they want to move IRS agents to go do immigration shit. 00:25:34.290 --> 00:25:37.150 Like, they don't even know what the fuck they're doing. 00:25:38.570 --> 00:25:44.870 And so, that's going to dent receipts. You can't run a fucking business where 00:25:44.870 --> 00:25:48.430 you don't get money. I mean, you need to collect money. 00:25:48.810 --> 00:25:52.730 It's not just about spending money. Of course, Elon's doing that with Twitter. 00:25:52.730 --> 00:25:57.270 I mean, right now, we basically, you know, fucking like drove revenue down 90%. 00:25:57.270 --> 00:26:01.470 And also, he's doing a great job with Tesla right now because in January, 00:26:01.910 --> 00:26:08.350 globally, electric car sales were soared and his sales plummeted. 00:26:09.010 --> 00:26:14.470 Great job, Elon. You're doing great. I really am looking forward to the next 00:26:14.470 --> 00:26:16.870 quarter's fucking financial results from Tesla. 00:26:16.870 --> 00:26:20.510 Because unless there's a head fake somewhere in those numbers, 00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:25.390 it's going to be a monumental disaster for the company. 00:26:25.830 --> 00:26:30.770 Why? Because he's fucking around with a whole bunch of goddamn Nazi teenagers 00:26:30.770 --> 00:26:36.150 going around, pulling reports, ordering people to do shit, and none of them 00:26:36.150 --> 00:26:38.650 have any clue about what the fuck they're telling them to do. 00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:46.060 Well, look, the key important part to remember on what the Trumpies are trying 00:26:46.060 --> 00:26:51.320 to do to the government is that, of course, they're not looking to make it more efficient. 00:26:51.540 --> 00:26:53.860 Of course, they're not looking to make it work better. 00:26:54.180 --> 00:27:00.560 Of course, fundamentally, what they want is to break it. 00:27:02.500 --> 00:27:06.340 They're anti-government. They want to break it. It's not about money. 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.780 It's not about deficits. It's not about any of that stuff. 00:27:10.940 --> 00:27:17.220 It's about breaking it, with the possible exception of any parts of government 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:19.660 that they can directly use for their personal benefit. 00:27:21.060 --> 00:27:28.960 The thing is that those things and those goals will wind up hurting a lot of people. 00:27:29.820 --> 00:27:32.180 And I mean, it's going to happen. 00:27:32.580 --> 00:27:33.220 Yes. 00:27:33.580 --> 00:27:37.500 It's going to happen. It's not kind of like it's going to happen. 00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:38.820 It's already happening. 00:27:39.300 --> 00:27:45.060 Like, small scale stuff. Look, what I'm talking, I'm talking about recession, 00:27:45.320 --> 00:27:48.140 financial crisis, kind of fucking horse shit again. 00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:51.960 I mean, that's the kind of level shit I'm talking about. 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:58.060 I mean, there, if you ramp up the firing of government employees, 00:27:58.060 --> 00:28:02.980 you got to remember the government's a significant employer in this country. You're going to have. 00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:06.180 It's going to create a recession. 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:09.100 You're you're gonna drive up unemployment you're gonna 00:28:09.100 --> 00:28:12.680 cause people to not spend money other folks 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.760 are gonna panic like you said it's all psychological 00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:18.840 and this stuff builds on itself and yeah you're you're 00:28:18.840 --> 00:28:22.500 gonna cause a recession and it's like 00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:27.860 you know you you and when these folks came in things were actually in pretty 00:28:27.860 --> 00:28:34.780 good shape it's like they're purposely cracking it yes yes i mean the tariffs 00:28:34.780 --> 00:28:39.420 too for that matter yeah you know if any of them ever actually get put on and 00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:41.860 stay on of course it's inflationary. 00:28:41.860 --> 00:28:42.600 Yes, 00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:47.080 loud kaboom. 00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:52.980 Yes there was a loud kaboom on my side okay i don't know who knows they happen 00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:56.060 here I don't know. Can't tell you why. 00:28:56.540 --> 00:28:58.980 Okay, as long as you're not worried. Okay. 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.020 I am not worried at the moment. No bullet has come through the window. 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.480 No, that did not sound like a bullet. I've heard bullets. That sounded more like an explosion. 00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:12.100 There are explosions here all the time. I don't know what to tell you. Okay, all right. 00:29:12.860 --> 00:29:16.200 Unlike last time you heard an explosion while we were recording, 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.800 we determined the Seahawks had just won a game. I don't think that's the case right now. 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.540 No, that's not. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. 00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:28.000 Yes. Yeah, there's no. Okay. All right. 00:29:28.940 --> 00:29:35.780 Anyway, you know, I had shared this polling data about how people reacted, 00:29:36.360 --> 00:29:37.900 have been reacting to this. 00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:45.320 You go did this, did this survey of they were doing the, you know, 00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:50.300 is the country on a good track, bad track bullshit thing? OK, right. 00:29:50.820 --> 00:29:53.560 Pretty interesting inflections that happened over the last. 00:29:53.660 --> 00:29:57.260 Which, by the way, I've always disliked that particular. metric. 00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:58.580 It's a terrible metric. 00:29:58.940 --> 00:30:04.080 Because you can be unhappy with the right track, 00:30:04.080 --> 00:30:09.080 wrong track because you think they're not doing enough of something or they're 00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:14.120 doing too much of something and either way you think it's wrong track. Go ahead. 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:21.800 The interesting thing was just because I also always find a question also it's 00:30:21.800 --> 00:30:26.320 kind of like it's not, I don't think it's the right question the way it's posed. 00:30:26.320 --> 00:30:31.440 OK, but it's useful because this this particular question has been tracked for 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:32.680 decades and decades and decades. 00:30:33.060 --> 00:30:36.000 But regardless, the one thing that was more important that I that I found with 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.060 this was the trends that were in it. 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.060 OK, because it did it did have, you know, it did have things that were done 00:30:42.060 --> 00:30:46.280 by by age group and other things and so forth. 00:30:46.660 --> 00:30:51.740 And it had what happened, say, since the election. 00:30:51.740 --> 00:30:55.000 okay and what's happened at the inaugural and 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.380 post the election okay very interesting 00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:01.240 things that i saw in there about this like one thing 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:05.140 was the reaction by a lot of people after 00:31:05.140 --> 00:31:13.160 the election okay how wrong track like uh good you know on the right track surged 00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:19.540 by quite a lot okay according the day before the election it was like uh let's 00:31:19.540 --> 00:31:23.280 see it was like somewhere in the uh 54. 00:31:24.300 --> 00:31:27.300 It was like you know let me see 21st 00:31:27.300 --> 00:31:32.440 of january 2021 54.5 to 30.5 i'm looking at on my phone because i don't another 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.360 place to look at it where i can look at more in detail but you look at right 00:31:36.360 --> 00:31:43.080 after the election it dipped like like it went down to like it was like at 48 00:31:43.080 --> 00:31:47.060 or 42 so it was Whereas before, 00:31:47.220 --> 00:31:50.140 there was a 40-point gap to it. 00:31:50.300 --> 00:31:54.260 It closed to a 7-point gap right after the election. 00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:58.700 So that was a big shift in sentiment. 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.900 Now, the one thing that I found interesting was how the move really was different by age group. 00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:13.750 The biggest mover in the age groups that I saw was under 30 years old. 00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:20.470 The under 30 years old, okay, before the election, now I finally was able to narrow it here. 00:32:20.690 --> 00:32:27.630 Right before the election, they were at 54.6 wrong track, 35.2 right track. 00:32:27.630 --> 00:32:37.090 The day after the election, it flipped 54% right track, 32% wrong track, 00:32:37.390 --> 00:32:39.330 right after the election. Okay? 00:32:39.670 --> 00:32:39.890 Okay. 00:32:40.290 --> 00:32:47.590 Now, but, but, since, you know, stuff has been happening, and especially you 00:32:47.590 --> 00:32:53.090 can see that after the inauguration, it started just flipping again. 00:32:53.090 --> 00:33:00.170 I mean, in the weeks just post the inauguration, it's like the wrong track is 00:33:00.170 --> 00:33:04.630 now it took like a dull it was like it seems like, according to this, 00:33:04.710 --> 00:33:07.890 like sometime in 30th by by December, 00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:13.390 by the 23rd of December, about about then late December, wrong track was back 00:33:13.390 --> 00:33:14.910 ahead on the young group. 00:33:14.910 --> 00:33:20.510 I guess, like, 40 days later, they realize, oh, fuck, okay, after the election, 00:33:20.630 --> 00:33:24.230 this was really bad that we voted for this clown, okay? 00:33:24.490 --> 00:33:26.710 So it was back to 47-38. 00:33:27.130 --> 00:33:33.850 Right now, it's at 49-36. So basically, the right track went down from the election day. 00:33:34.090 --> 00:33:40.910 From 54, they went green right track, to 36, two months later. 00:33:41.410 --> 00:33:46.910 I mean, it's a 20-point drop. But that under 30 group is nuts. 00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:51.610 It's all I can say about this right now. This fucking group is fucked up. 00:33:51.670 --> 00:33:54.410 Because if you look at the older groups, here's the one thing. 00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.950 The 65 group did have a change. 00:33:58.770 --> 00:34:02.590 It was post-election more than anything. 00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:08.450 It was actually post-inauguration. Where it was 67, wrong track, 00:34:08.610 --> 00:34:11.530 and it's dropped now to 55. Okay? 00:34:12.150 --> 00:34:17.210 It's still they think it's mostly wrong track But only went from 67 to 55 After 00:34:17.210 --> 00:34:20.390 he got he got voted 45 to 64 45. 00:34:21.470 --> 00:34:24.990 We were at 68% wrong track before the inauguration. 00:34:25.490 --> 00:34:30.390 Now it's like 50-40 still, you know, wrong track, you know, but, 00:34:30.430 --> 00:34:36.790 but, you know, yeah, it's like for some reason that group, you know, now 30 to 44. 00:34:37.470 --> 00:34:40.770 Here's the interesting thing. They went, they were. 00:34:40.770 --> 00:34:42.090 There's an interesting thing. Go ahead. 00:34:42.310 --> 00:34:46.370 There's a very interesting thing about this one. They were right before inauguration. 00:34:46.370 --> 00:34:49.570 they had been wrong track 60 percent 00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:52.410 right track 30 right after the 00:34:52.410 --> 00:34:55.270 inauguration they went they were half of that 50 50 00:34:55.270 --> 00:35:02.790 44 44 they tied it now two weeks later wrong track surged to get the 58 percent 00:35:02.790 --> 00:35:08.130 to 33 they're back in the other way okay so it's like that those that young 00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:13.930 group under 40 The volatility of how they are seeing this, 00:35:15.430 --> 00:35:21.970 Is ridiculously wide I guess what it looks like is that Oh my god, 00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:25.270 we're changing the government We're getting rid of the old guy Biden Yeah, 00:35:25.470 --> 00:35:28.130 yeah, yeah, Trump's gonna come in and fix it Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:29.470 then like a little bit later, 00:35:30.350 --> 00:35:33.410 Holy shit, what the fuck were we talking about? 00:35:33.850 --> 00:35:38.530 Oh my god, this is terrible Okay, so now they're going back the other way Only 00:35:38.530 --> 00:35:40.350 in a span of like three months. 00:35:40.350 --> 00:35:47.430 Yeah i i think i think there are a few things there i mean one is the younger 00:35:47.430 --> 00:35:54.410 you are the less you've seen and this is a truism but like there's been less 00:35:54.410 --> 00:35:57.210 back and forth that is within your experience more of that massive. 00:35:57.210 --> 00:35:59.970 Insight so the younger you are the less you've seen really. 00:35:59.970 --> 00:36:04.130 Okay thank you thanks sam okay yeah we're. 00:36:04.130 --> 00:36:05.850 Really giving the people you know the. 00:36:05.850 --> 00:36:11.950 The point is, if it's the first new president since you've really been paying 00:36:11.950 --> 00:36:16.370 attention, for instance, then like, oh, everything's going to change, 00:36:16.490 --> 00:36:17.450 new president, blah, blah, blah. 00:36:17.650 --> 00:36:19.930 Once you've been through four or five presidents. 00:36:20.690 --> 00:36:24.830 You're like, okay, it's a new president until proven otherwise. 00:36:25.410 --> 00:36:30.490 We assume things are going to basically be the same with a few little changes here and there. 00:36:30.630 --> 00:36:33.450 And then of course you get Donald Trump blowing everything fucking up, 00:36:33.450 --> 00:36:37.470 but you know where, and so I think that's part of it. 00:36:37.570 --> 00:36:39.910 And I think part of it is like what we've talked about before, 00:36:39.910 --> 00:36:44.730 just in terms of attention economy and people are paying attention at all or 00:36:44.730 --> 00:36:50.750 knowing what, or understanding what they're seeing or the import of it you know you have all. 00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:55.430 Believing trump in his word like for example yes i mean like i don't know i 00:36:55.430 --> 00:36:56.770 guess in the last the chinese pay. 00:36:56.770 --> 00:36:57.550 The tariffs right. 00:36:57.550 --> 00:37:02.450 The chinese pay the tariffs he was gonna he's gonna eliminate inflation on day 00:37:02.450 --> 00:37:08.310 one or a day what i don't know 20 something how's inflation doing sam should. 00:37:08.310 --> 00:37:09.890 We do an egg price check. 00:37:09.890 --> 00:37:13.310 Yeah should we do an egg price check as a matter of fact i heard that eggs are 00:37:13.310 --> 00:37:18.130 at a record high right now so he he was not able They've. 00:37:18.130 --> 00:37:21.470 Been in record highs for like at least a week, maybe two now. 00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:26.470 I thought I saw someone say that like the average price nationwide was like 00:37:26.470 --> 00:37:28.110 double what it was a few weeks ago. 00:37:28.110 --> 00:37:31.710 Correct. So so so he didn't just lower egg prices. 00:37:32.390 --> 00:37:36.270 And oh, by the way, how is that Palestinian? 00:37:36.650 --> 00:37:42.730 How is that that plan? So because many people turned on Biden because he didn't 00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:48.050 have the right plan to stop Israel and what they were doing in Gaza. 00:37:48.310 --> 00:37:50.230 How is that new plan coming, Sam? 00:37:51.200 --> 00:37:55.500 Um, we're going to bulldoze the whole place and make all the condos. 00:37:56.220 --> 00:38:00.360 Oh, by, by the way, based on like I had said last week, like if Donald Trump 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:06.040 really was at all sincere on this, he'd invite all the Palestinians to the U 00:38:06.040 --> 00:38:09.400 S he specifically set was asked that question. 00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:15.180 It was like, no, no, it's too far away. They, they need to go somewhere closer. 00:38:15.720 --> 00:38:20.640 Like it's, you know, they, it wouldn't know. So yeah, no, he doesn't want any of them here. 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:28.500 Oh my god you didn't want him here oh you know poor thing you know so yeah so 00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:32.780 I mean you know I don't know, 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.680 he's doing what he said he was I mean he's doing what he said he was gonna do 00:38:39.680 --> 00:38:43.720 many people didn't believe him now all of a sudden people are realizing oh he 00:38:43.720 --> 00:38:50.340 is really gonna eat our faces like he said he was oh I mean shit I thought he was just kidding. 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:57.800 Yeah it's all bluster well and look some of it is bluster that's the thing you like what. 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:03.600 No some of it is bluster but a lot of it is really hurting well and frankly even. 00:39:03.600 --> 00:39:09.500 The thing even the things that are bluster like if he could do it he would. 00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:11.080 Oh yeah like. 00:39:11.080 --> 00:39:12.760 Like you know like you could. 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.080 Like the citizen like a birthright citizenship thing like. 00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:19.660 Birthright citizenship like canada the 51st state Like Greenland, 00:39:20.120 --> 00:39:23.600 like you can give all these reasons why these things might not happen, 00:39:23.600 --> 00:39:30.120 but you like more than one person has now said like Trudeau on Canada was like, 00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:32.860 was caught on an off mic moment this week, 00:39:33.540 --> 00:39:37.960 basically telling people, oh yeah, Donald's completely serious about the 51st state thing. 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:41.100 Well, that they should be, you know, that he said that they should be rightfully 00:39:41.100 --> 00:39:43.460 concerned about it. Absolutely. Yes. 00:39:44.040 --> 00:39:48.820 No, absolutely. They shouldn't just, like, ignore the threat. Yes. 00:39:49.060 --> 00:39:49.240 Right. 00:39:50.100 --> 00:39:50.500 Absolutely. 00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:56.100 So, I derailed you at one point. You wanted to talk about Eric Adams. 00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:00.380 Well, I said you could do this stuff for this segment, and we can take a break, 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.120 and we'll come back and talk about that other stuff. 00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:06.140 And I was just about to say, let's take that break. 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:06.840 Okay. 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:11.120 And, you know, we'll come back. I'll start with Eric Adams and maybe a couple 00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:14.160 other little things. We'll see back after this. 00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:20.860 Okay, before I get to Eric Adams, I'm just noticing one piece of unconfirmed breaking news. 00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:22.320 Oh, God, now what? 00:41:23.020 --> 00:41:26.120 Well, it's just weird, and maybe it's not even real. 00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:31.100 I haven't—usually I would wait until see confirmation from somewhere else. 00:41:31.160 --> 00:41:32.160 But what the hell, we're recording. 00:41:32.860 --> 00:41:37.180 U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio's plane, which was on the way to Germany 00:41:37.180 --> 00:41:40.920 for the Munich Security Conference, has turned around for unknown reasons. 00:41:41.740 --> 00:41:44.180 Yeah, well, we should be happy. 00:41:44.260 --> 00:41:45.320 It's just a problem. 00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:47.300 Could be anything. Mechanical issue. 00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:48.220 Yeah. 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.960 Somebody threw up on the plane and they need to clean the rug. You know. 00:41:52.500 --> 00:41:54.580 Your shit is bad. I mean, who knows? 00:41:57.220 --> 00:42:00.400 Probably nothing, but just still weird. Like, usually for these, 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.380 like, diplomatic flights, they're fairly, you know, it's notable when anything happens, you know? 00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:08.240 Okay. Well. 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:17.320 Okay. Anyway, Eric Adams, mayor of New York, indicted for a variety of corruption-related 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.640 stuff. I think he was doing some work for the government of Turkey. 00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:27.340 He was taking, you know, all kinds of stuff. Basically, guy's shady as fuck, okay? 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.120 Yes. And, you know, the— That much is certain. 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.280 Yeah. I mean, and, like, New York elected him anyway because he was anti-crime, 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.880 whatever, whatever, but, like— I mean. 00:42:38.980 --> 00:42:41.380 There were some questions about him, but he wasn't. 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:42.540 There were already questions. 00:42:42.720 --> 00:42:46.540 No, no, no. There were questions. There's no doubt a question. 00:42:46.780 --> 00:42:47.440 But no answer. 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:55.660 But it wasn't like there were like some clear smoking guns. He was a cop. 00:42:55.860 --> 00:42:58.340 He's whatever. There were some questions about some of this stuff. 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.060 But, you know, they didn't seem to be. 00:43:02.700 --> 00:43:07.160 They didn't seem to reach the level of like, OK, we need to be really, 00:43:07.160 --> 00:43:11.980 you know. Well, he still voted me, basically. That's what I see. 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:19.360 So anyway, he was indicted by the Justice Department, and the court things were 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.100 still going on. But basically, he looks really guilty. 00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:26.820 Yes. I know he has not yet been convicted by a jury of his peers. 00:43:26.980 --> 00:43:32.720 But look, there's been a lot of investigations around him by a lot of the local 00:43:32.720 --> 00:43:36.960 media that uncovered quite a lot of shady things. and he was associated with 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.500 quite a lot of shady people. 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:43.040 And it pretty much seems that, yeah, based on what we have seen, 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.020 yeah, he looks pretty good. 00:43:45.600 --> 00:43:50.640 Yes. So now here's the thing. Starting... 00:43:51.470 --> 00:43:54.890 even before the inauguration, but accelerating after the inauguration, 00:43:55.110 --> 00:44:02.210 there was talk about how Adams was trying to negotiate with Trump to get the charges dropped. 00:44:03.450 --> 00:44:12.030 And a few days ago, Trump did indeed announce that they were dropping the charges. 00:44:12.270 --> 00:44:18.190 And very specifically, they were going to, and by the way, the way it works, 00:44:18.270 --> 00:44:24.250 you have to request the Judd. You have to make a request to the judge to dismiss the case. 00:44:24.450 --> 00:44:27.250 So it's not, you know, they can't do it unilaterally. 00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:34.950 The judge has to agree. But they were making a request specifically to dismiss 00:44:34.950 --> 00:44:39.830 without prejudice, which means that they could bring back charges. 00:44:40.190 --> 00:44:44.430 By the way, update is a crack in the windshield. And there will be a point. 00:44:44.890 --> 00:44:50.530 Ah, OK. There you go. Answer given. So presumably they're going to land and 00:44:50.530 --> 00:44:51.630 switch planes and then he's going to go. 00:44:51.630 --> 00:44:51.850 Yes. 00:44:52.890 --> 00:44:53.610 No one dead? 00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:54.450 No. 00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:59.270 No. Oh, well. No, that sounded wrong. Not, oh, well, like sad, 00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:02.970 you know, too bad at that, you know. Anyway. 00:45:04.690 --> 00:45:08.850 All the best to Mr. Rubio and his staff and other people on the plane. Okay. 00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:13.470 Adams, so they said, we're going to do it without prejudice. 00:45:13.470 --> 00:45:17.990 And so people started pointing out, look, what this means is essentially that 00:45:17.990 --> 00:45:21.710 the Trump administration has leverage. 00:45:22.030 --> 00:45:26.310 Like there's this stuff going on all over the country where they're trying to 00:45:26.310 --> 00:45:31.810 pressure states and cities to cooperate with the immigration stuff, 00:45:32.030 --> 00:45:35.350 you know, to help kick people out. 00:45:35.350 --> 00:45:40.870 And now they've basically got something that says, hey, Eric Adams, 00:45:41.310 --> 00:45:43.490 you do what the administration wants. 00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:51.650 These charges never come back. But if, on the other hand, you don't do what we want, guess what? 00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:52.570 We're going to charge you again. 00:45:52.570 --> 00:45:57.770 And in the memo announcing that they were going to do these pardons, 00:45:58.010 --> 00:46:04.910 it even explicitly said that one of the reasons is that the mayor could not 00:46:04.910 --> 00:46:10.870 properly execute on his duties while he was under indictment and had to go to 00:46:10.870 --> 00:46:13.190 trial and this was politically motivated. 00:46:13.370 --> 00:46:17.730 Oh, and we will reassess whether or not to put these charges after the next 00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:19.390 mayoral election in New York. 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:25.640 So, but, so it was almost explicit, right? 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:32.860 And, but then today we're, we're basically getting one of these Saturday night massacre situations. 00:46:33.300 --> 00:46:40.140 Of course it's Thursday night, but the, because central department of justice 00:46:40.140 --> 00:46:46.880 told the, you know, the, the New York AG to drop the case. 00:46:47.220 --> 00:46:47.740 Right. 00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:49.240 And she wouldn't. 00:46:49.580 --> 00:46:50.040 Right. 00:46:50.040 --> 00:46:52.420 She issued a long memo. 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.060 And by the way, this is a Trump-appointed AG. 00:46:54.680 --> 00:46:59.520 Yeah, this is an acting AG that's only been on a job a few weeks because she 00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:02.960 was appointed by Trump to be acting during this time period. 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:10.700 And she refused, basically saying that there's no basis in law to drop this 00:47:10.700 --> 00:47:11.700 and I'm not going to cooperate. 00:47:12.340 --> 00:47:17.480 And then there's this footnote that she added. She just threw this in a footnote. 00:47:17.660 --> 00:47:18.980 Did you read the footnote, Yvonne? 00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:21.860 I did not get to read the footnote. What did the footnote say? 00:47:22.700 --> 00:47:26.160 Footnote on her message that said, by the way, I'm not going to do this. 00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:28.820 And if you have a problem with that, I will submit my resignation. 00:47:29.660 --> 00:47:35.540 Footnote. I attended a meeting on January 31st, 2025 with Mr. 00:47:35.700 --> 00:47:39.300 Bove, Adams' counsel, and members of my office. 00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:44.600 Adams' attorney repeatedly urged what amounted to a quid pro quo, 00:47:44.600 --> 00:47:50.240 indicating that Adams would be in a position to assist with the department's 00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:53.360 enforcement priorities only if the indictment were dismissed. 00:47:53.820 --> 00:47:59.340 Mr. Bove admonished a member of my team who took notes during that meeting and 00:47:59.340 --> 00:48:02.340 directed the collection of those notes at the meeting's conclusions. 00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:11.070 So, basically, in her letter saying no, she provided witness testimony of the 00:48:11.070 --> 00:48:12.330 fact that they were making this. 00:48:12.730 --> 00:48:15.690 Well, at least that the quid pro quo was offered. 00:48:15.830 --> 00:48:16.210 Offered. 00:48:16.670 --> 00:48:20.370 And then add that to the text of the memo itself. 00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:25.850 And then dismiss it without prejudice, which means, yeah, we're, yeah. 00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:33.410 And so, she refused. Apparently, a couple other members of her staff also refused 00:48:33.410 --> 00:48:35.670 and also resigned when asked to do this. 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:41.150 Then the request was sent back to Maine Justice, and I guess three more people 00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:43.530 at Maine Justice also resigned over this. 00:48:43.970 --> 00:48:49.470 Last I heard, which was like an hour and a half ago, we were up to six Department 00:48:49.470 --> 00:48:53.190 of Justice attorneys refusing to do this. 00:48:53.190 --> 00:48:58.770 and as of now the paperwork has not actually been filed to request the dismissal 00:48:58.770 --> 00:49:03.470 of charges which makes you after all of this also wonder even if they get a 00:49:03.470 --> 00:49:07.970 lawyer i mean i'm sure they'll eventually fire enough people they'll get the judge. 00:49:07.970 --> 00:49:11.330 Will dismiss it because the one thing is the judge may go and just say fuck 00:49:11.330 --> 00:49:13.570 you know this is not being dismissed which. 00:49:13.570 --> 00:49:18.370 They can do and they can also appoint somebody else to be the prosecutor correct 00:49:18.370 --> 00:49:22.490 yes like that that has happened in a couple of cases before where the government 00:49:22.490 --> 00:49:26.730 has it's very unusual from what i understand and i think yeah but this. 00:49:26.730 --> 00:49:29.290 Is this but this but this is a kind of situation that. 00:49:29.290 --> 00:49:33.450 Basically and i'm not i'm not sure yeah i'm not sure i've heard of it happening 00:49:33.450 --> 00:49:37.610 in criminal charges i know i've had it's happened in civil cases i've. 00:49:37.610 --> 00:49:38.690 Heard it in criminal charges. 00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:40.370 Okay yeah, 00:49:41.190 --> 00:49:45.430 So, so yeah, I I'm thinking like the judge is going to be like, screw you. 00:49:45.610 --> 00:49:52.890 I read all this stuff, you know, because, because even the memo from Pam Bondi 00:49:52.890 --> 00:49:56.510 or whatever, saying that they were going to do this specifically said, 00:49:56.510 --> 00:50:00.410 this is not because of the law or the facts. This is because of this other stuff. 00:50:00.910 --> 00:50:05.770 And, and so like, so I don't know what, 00:50:05.770 --> 00:50:15.090 what's interesting here is that this is one of the first cases where we're seeing 00:50:15.090 --> 00:50:21.690 this level of resistance to the Trump orders from Trumpies. 00:50:21.790 --> 00:50:23.490 Like you said, this was a Trump nominee. 00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:30.830 She apparently has the acting New York AG, whatever her title was, 00:50:30.950 --> 00:50:34.710 was apparently full of conservative credentials. 00:50:34.950 --> 00:50:39.310 She clerked for Scalia. She's on the Federalist Society. 00:50:39.710 --> 00:50:42.770 She's like, blah, blah, blah. All of the things you could see. 00:50:43.390 --> 00:50:45.630 And she's still like, no, no. 00:50:45.990 --> 00:50:53.090 But look, man, I mean, it's one of those things where Trump is not surrounding 00:50:53.090 --> 00:50:54.570 himself with conservatives. 00:50:55.210 --> 00:50:55.690 No. 00:50:55.890 --> 00:51:02.010 He is surrounding himself with criminals. If you're a criminal, you're a friend. 00:51:02.350 --> 00:51:06.170 I mean, he went and he pardoned Blagojevic, okay? 00:51:06.350 --> 00:51:09.250 Yes. who he commuted previously four years ago. 00:51:09.270 --> 00:51:11.470 And now he fully pardoned, okay? 00:51:11.630 --> 00:51:11.770 Yep. 00:51:12.770 --> 00:51:17.730 You know, now he wants to pardon Adams. He pardoned all the J6ers. 00:51:18.050 --> 00:51:20.690 He pardoned a whole bunch of other fucking criminals. 00:51:21.050 --> 00:51:26.230 I mean, it's people that were out and out fucking criminals. 00:51:26.970 --> 00:51:33.110 And just because, hey, if you're a criminal, you're with me. We're in a crime family. 00:51:33.930 --> 00:51:41.810 Yes. I mean, there's so many moves here that are directly related to enabling corruption. 00:51:42.770 --> 00:51:47.250 Jesus Christ, talk about, you want to talk about, and I was talking about this 00:51:47.250 --> 00:51:49.890 week, a move to enable corruption. 00:51:50.290 --> 00:51:58.290 It's this whole thing where they ordered the DOJ to not investigate violations 00:51:58.290 --> 00:52:00.850 of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. 00:52:00.850 --> 00:52:01.690 Yes. 00:52:01.890 --> 00:52:08.810 Which is basically the act that makes it that people that work at multinational 00:52:08.810 --> 00:52:14.750 companies doing business in other countries cannot go and bribe foreign government officials. 00:52:15.130 --> 00:52:19.770 You cannot. And if you do so, you will be prosecuted in the United States. 00:52:19.990 --> 00:52:26.070 I had a boss of mine that was prosecuted and jailed for FCPA violations. Okay. 00:52:26.330 --> 00:52:30.670 All right. And by the way, this is not like a new law that came up under Biden 00:52:30.670 --> 00:52:31.990 or something. This has been a long time. 00:52:31.990 --> 00:52:33.090 It was from the 70s. 00:52:33.270 --> 00:52:33.430 Okay? 00:52:34.210 --> 00:52:38.490 Many people I know have been investigated and gone to jail for this, 00:52:38.730 --> 00:52:40.930 okay? Companies have been investigated. 00:52:42.710 --> 00:52:48.390 But here is the thing about this. The fact that they order to not prosecute 00:52:48.390 --> 00:52:50.770 doesn't mean the law is gone. 00:52:51.590 --> 00:52:51.690 Right. 00:52:52.270 --> 00:52:57.810 So what does that make? So what creates is a situation where, 00:52:58.710 --> 00:53:04.270 If you are a company that is friends with this administration, 00:53:04.270 --> 00:53:08.270 you can go to try to earn business in another country. 00:53:08.630 --> 00:53:14.210 You can feel probably free to provide any of the bribes that you want to earn that business. 00:53:14.970 --> 00:53:19.150 And you will not be prosecuted. Hell, you'll probably be pardoned, 00:53:19.150 --> 00:53:22.130 even if you just in case, just to cover your tracks. 00:53:22.130 --> 00:53:25.610 OK, and if you're a competitor of them and try to offer the same money, 00:53:25.770 --> 00:53:28.830 you might wind up being the one being prosecuted because you're going against 00:53:28.830 --> 00:53:33.490 it because you're going against the guy that wants that they want to win the business. 00:53:33.650 --> 00:53:35.810 Right. Because it can be completely selective. 00:53:36.330 --> 00:53:42.590 Exactly. So this is this is an it just creates an insane situation. 00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:47.590 I mean, all I know is that anybody, look, I know that I'm not, 00:53:47.750 --> 00:53:52.970 I, listen, if I'm an employee of a company that is under, you know, 00:53:53.430 --> 00:53:55.650 that does this, I mean, I would be, 00:53:56.250 --> 00:53:58.910 look, I don't care that they're not being prosecuted. 00:53:58.910 --> 00:54:03.790 And I can't, we can't be involved in this, but the reality is that there will 00:54:03.790 --> 00:54:08.950 be companies that will completely disregard this because they have gone to Mar-a-Lago 00:54:08.950 --> 00:54:11.190 many times and wine and dine them and whatever, 00:54:11.390 --> 00:54:14.030 and they feel confident that, you know, they're not going to be prosecuted. 00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:18.310 And so, therefore, they will go all out, basically pay off anybody they got 00:54:18.310 --> 00:54:21.870 to get the business, and their competitors can't do anything about it. 00:54:22.870 --> 00:54:31.690 This is the kind of Robert Barron capitalism that we haven't had in this country 00:54:31.690 --> 00:54:34.870 for really more for 100 years at that level. 00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:39.550 And by the way, the one thing you mentioned, the Farah law or whatever, 00:54:39.810 --> 00:54:47.870 is only one of like half a dozen examples of them eliminating groups that do 00:54:47.870 --> 00:54:49.270 enforcement of these things. 00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:56.630 Or telling them not to. Or openly saying, well, this is how we're going to do it. 00:54:56.750 --> 00:55:00.610 I mean, the stupid Adams thing that we started this conversation. 00:55:00.870 --> 00:55:05.930 Right. How this is like as blatant a corruption is okay with us. 00:55:06.150 --> 00:55:10.650 As long as you do what we want, what we want you to message as you possibly can do. 00:55:10.930 --> 00:55:11.470 Yes. 00:55:11.970 --> 00:55:23.090 You know? And so I expect more like, you know, it's just blatant and open. 00:55:23.090 --> 00:55:32.950 And this is something that has been part of Donald's modus operandi for years and years and years. 00:55:33.050 --> 00:55:38.550 He refined it some during his first presidency, but he'd been doing it even before, 00:55:38.810 --> 00:55:46.730 is that if you do the crime out in the open, then just people are like, 00:55:46.850 --> 00:55:48.590 oh, well, he did that, I guess. 00:55:48.590 --> 00:55:51.970 I guess it must be okay. Like, if it was wrong, he'd be hiding it. 00:55:51.970 --> 00:55:58.750 But instead, it is completely about like, hey, no, yes, I'm doing quid pro quos. 00:55:59.070 --> 00:56:02.110 That's just how you do business. That's how it should be. 00:56:02.430 --> 00:56:06.810 That's how it should be. You know, if you want something from me, 00:56:06.990 --> 00:56:09.250 you give me something, you know? 00:56:09.510 --> 00:56:17.070 By the way, apparently this news at 6 o'clock Eastern had come out on inflation, 00:56:17.290 --> 00:56:22.850 just a newsflash. Wholesale prices also in January rose by a, 00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:26.350 way higher number than expected so. 00:56:26.350 --> 00:56:29.530 Okay so moving away from 00:56:29.530 --> 00:56:33.270 uh corruption for a minute or to a different kind of corruption uh 00:56:33.270 --> 00:56:36.370 we we we mentioned musk's kid 00:56:36.370 --> 00:56:39.890 in the oval office but let's talk 00:56:39.890 --> 00:56:43.290 about that whole thing for a little bit because i was 00:56:43.290 --> 00:56:46.890 i was actually listening to like last week's show and i 00:56:46.890 --> 00:56:49.970 said something about how yeah musk was doing xyz 00:56:49.970 --> 00:56:52.850 and he was tweeting and stuff but he wasn't as much like 00:56:52.850 --> 00:56:55.830 you know on tv and stuff and then 00:56:55.830 --> 00:56:59.470 like right after we put out that show he 00:56:59.470 --> 00:57:02.890 goes and like has this media thing 00:57:02.890 --> 00:57:05.970 in the oval office donald trump like 00:57:05.970 --> 00:57:09.110 basically introduces him and says like okay elon's gonna 00:57:09.110 --> 00:57:12.010 talk now and then donald trump just sits there 00:57:12.010 --> 00:57:15.850 while elon talks for like 90 minutes or something wasn't 00:57:15.850 --> 00:57:18.730 that long maybe not quite but it was a long 00:57:18.730 --> 00:57:21.610 time it was like at least 00:57:21.610 --> 00:57:24.470 more than half an hour i think it was like 45 minutes or something 00:57:24.470 --> 00:57:30.450 i i'm making shit up i'm pulling numbers out of my ass so it was long let's 00:57:30.450 --> 00:57:37.390 just say that it was a long time i there were there were uh people like covering 00:57:37.390 --> 00:57:43.590 on the news going like is he still talking he's still talking i guess he's still talking i didn't watch. 00:57:43.590 --> 00:57:44.790 It but but. 00:57:44.790 --> 00:57:49.250 Well obviously i didn't watch it either. But, you know, from the highlights, 00:57:49.490 --> 00:57:52.710 I mean, he's doing the same kind of bullshit Trump does. 00:57:52.870 --> 00:57:56.230 And Elon does it too. He's known for it. 00:57:56.710 --> 00:58:01.890 Like making stuff up, telling, I mean, he was called on one of the things that 00:58:01.890 --> 00:58:07.890 came out of his effort that had spread all over the right-wing media ecosystem, 00:58:08.110 --> 00:58:09.610 including Donald Trump saying it himself, 00:58:09.850 --> 00:58:14.810 was this whole thing about one of the things USAID doing being spending $50 00:58:14.810 --> 00:58:17.030 million for condoms to Gaza. 00:58:18.490 --> 00:58:19.450 Okay. 00:58:19.910 --> 00:58:25.210 Turns out there were condoms, 00:58:26.270 --> 00:58:31.150 But it was going to a different Gaza. There's a Gaza province in Mozambique. 00:58:32.050 --> 00:58:32.210 Oh. 00:58:32.850 --> 00:58:37.150 Okay. Now, I think the 50 million number was wrong, too, because it was condoms 00:58:37.150 --> 00:58:39.890 to a larger area. Yeah, because that's how. 00:58:40.630 --> 00:58:44.890 And, like, Elon, when asked about this, there were a couple things he said. 00:58:45.030 --> 00:58:47.930 One was, well, you know, I'm going to make mistakes. 00:58:49.290 --> 00:58:52.690 I'll correct them when I find them. But, you know, I'll make mistakes occasionally. 00:58:52.690 --> 00:58:56.910 That's okay. But I don't understand why we're buying condoms for anybody. 00:58:57.290 --> 00:59:01.010 And of course, it's part of the anti-AIDS program. 00:59:02.110 --> 00:59:05.090 It's part of the program to reduce the spread of AIDS. 00:59:07.390 --> 00:59:14.730 And of course, nobody in this, not that they would care anyway that it was about 00:59:14.730 --> 00:59:20.470 reducing the spread of AIDS, but there's not even looking at things deeply enough to know that. 00:59:21.270 --> 00:59:25.490 They've got the wrong physical location. They've got the wrong number. 00:59:25.950 --> 00:59:29.470 They understand, oh, condoms were bought. They don't understand why. 00:59:29.470 --> 00:59:32.610 They didn't even bother to look into it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 00:59:33.650 --> 00:59:39.050 And you could make an argument that says, okay, maybe we shouldn't be buying 00:59:39.050 --> 00:59:41.970 condoms as part of an anti-AIDS effort in Southern Africa. 00:59:42.410 --> 00:59:45.970 You could make that argument. I would probably disagree with you and say it's 00:59:45.970 --> 00:59:50.350 actually a good use of money. but you could make that argument in a, 00:59:50.350 --> 00:59:53.870 in a honest way. They're not even close to that. 00:59:54.110 --> 00:59:56.830 They're just like, they don't know. They're just, they're just like, 00:59:56.890 --> 00:59:58.390 Oh, look at this number. This is funny. 00:59:58.530 --> 01:00:02.130 And this doesn't make sense. And so we'll, we'll, we'll make a stink about it 01:00:02.130 --> 01:00:03.330 without even looking into it. 01:00:04.230 --> 01:00:12.690 But the thing is with, you know, not Elon took over the Oval Office for that time period. 01:00:12.890 --> 01:00:16.110 Donald Trump was just sitting there twiddling his freaking thumbs. 01:00:16.890 --> 01:00:22.930 Musk was pontificating. Musk, as I think Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC pointed 01:00:22.930 --> 01:00:29.430 out, he also sort of exerted his influence by the fact that he dressed down. He was not in a suit. 01:00:29.650 --> 01:00:34.490 He did sort of the billionaire casual sort of thing. 01:00:35.110 --> 01:00:40.770 He brought his kid in and brought his kid in in a way where he just let his 01:00:40.770 --> 01:00:44.450 kid run around and say stuff and tell the president he wasn't really the president. 01:00:44.990 --> 01:00:47.790 All of these are sort of power dominance moves. 01:00:48.810 --> 01:00:52.010 I'm going to come in there without a suit, I'm going to come in there without 01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:53.990 a kid, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. 01:00:55.460 --> 01:00:55.880 With a kid. 01:00:56.200 --> 01:01:01.000 With a kid. With, you know, yes. With a kid who's not being, 01:01:01.020 --> 01:01:03.280 like, politely behaved, by the way. 01:01:03.500 --> 01:01:06.980 Like, there are appropriate places to bring kids to the White House. 01:01:07.100 --> 01:01:12.000 I mean, you know, there's all kinds of pictures of all presidents going back, 01:01:12.080 --> 01:01:17.220 as long as there were photographs, of kids in the White House doing stuff with the president. 01:01:17.460 --> 01:01:21.760 You know, I'm sure Elon knows this. Donald Trump doesn't really like kids. 01:01:21.980 --> 01:01:22.460 Yes. 01:01:22.460 --> 01:01:22.740 Either. 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:26.760 Yes. The only thing he could have done worse than bringing a kid would be to bring a dog. 01:01:27.180 --> 01:01:32.300 Right. He doesn't like dogs either. So, you know, bringing an eagle, 01:01:32.500 --> 01:01:35.900 like, you know, that eagle that he had that picture of that scared the shit 01:01:35.900 --> 01:01:38.700 out of him at his office, you know, Trump Tower. 01:01:39.060 --> 01:01:42.940 So here's the thing, Yvonne. What do you think is going on with this dynamic? 01:01:43.100 --> 01:01:49.000 Because we talked even before Inauguration Day about how eventually this Donald 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:50.380 Elon thing is going to break. 01:01:50.380 --> 01:01:57.980 I think that right now he sees them as useful because the reality is so much. 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.720 Donald thinks Elon is useful or the other way around. 01:02:00.900 --> 01:02:05.260 Donald thinks that Elon is useful because who's taking the heat for most of 01:02:05.260 --> 01:02:09.340 this right now for all the doge stuff for all the government like stuff for. 01:02:09.740 --> 01:02:13.920 And by the way, stuff that that shit is popular with his base. 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.300 They owe, you know, all these lazy federal federal employees. 01:02:18.580 --> 01:02:22.380 You know, we need to get rid of these bastards. too many of them, you know? 01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:28.200 Yeah, it's one of those things, and this goes back to the, I'll talk a little 01:02:28.200 --> 01:02:31.520 bit more about this in a second, but it all comes down to process versus results 01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:33.460 versus appearance kind of stuff. Right. 01:02:33.940 --> 01:02:38.480 You know, because the thing that his base loves is the, yeah, 01:02:38.620 --> 01:02:41.600 we hate government, kill government, kill the waste, like eliminate. 01:02:41.860 --> 01:02:44.940 Oh, let's get rid of the Department of Education. What good could that possibly 01:02:44.940 --> 01:02:46.920 be? Let's get rid of USAID. 01:02:47.100 --> 01:02:51.260 What good could it possibly be? which is entirely separate from a couple of 01:02:51.260 --> 01:02:54.000 weeks later, the farmers figure out no one's buying their crops anymore. 01:02:54.300 --> 01:02:54.740 Right. 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.760 You know, because the dots are not connected. 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:03.100 They're not connecting the dots. Right. They're not connecting dots until they get screwed. 01:03:03.860 --> 01:03:08.060 So, so let me talk about this process versus results versus appearance thing for a second. 01:03:08.100 --> 01:03:12.820 And I know we've, we've touched on things like this before, but specifically 01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:22.140 what got me this week is like, look, there, Donald Trump is losing more court cases every day. 01:03:22.560 --> 01:03:28.500 While we've been sitting here, I saw a news alert about some judge saying that 01:03:28.500 --> 01:03:31.560 the foreign aid stuff had to resume. They had been frozen. 01:03:32.260 --> 01:03:39.940 But he's losing more cases every day. And a lot of this is because he is trying to just... 01:03:41.370 --> 01:03:45.370 Bull in a China shop kind of thing. Just do stuff. Don't worry about the process. 01:03:45.830 --> 01:03:47.270 That'll all work out later. 01:03:47.750 --> 01:03:54.390 But I realize this goes with the tariffs and how he won against Colombia and 01:03:54.390 --> 01:03:58.170 Mexico and Canada the other week with tariffs, even though he didn't actually get anything, 01:03:58.650 --> 01:04:05.310 is that the perception among, what did we call them, low information voters, 01:04:05.670 --> 01:04:08.030 is just that there's action. 01:04:08.030 --> 01:04:15.170 and he's doing stuff and he won in the end, like the details never get through. 01:04:15.590 --> 01:04:21.530 Whereas the process stuff, like, you know, there, and I think this was a fundamental 01:04:21.530 --> 01:04:25.810 problem with the Democrats during the election season, when they, 01:04:25.830 --> 01:04:28.310 when they pivoted to, he's a danger to democracy. 01:04:28.650 --> 01:04:32.150 And even now, when, when you hear people complain, like, 01:04:32.750 --> 01:04:38.710 well, Elon doesn't actually have the authority to do that is that a lot of people 01:04:38.710 --> 01:04:44.110 just hear, so wait, you're just complaining about the way he did it? 01:04:44.450 --> 01:04:48.210 Like, you agree that we should get rid of waste and corruption, 01:04:48.410 --> 01:04:51.190 right? You're just complaining that Elon's doing it wrong? 01:04:51.570 --> 01:04:55.390 Who cares that Donald Trump is doing it wrong, that Elon is doing it wrong? 01:04:55.590 --> 01:05:01.170 What matters is he's doing stuff and he's going to fix the problem. 01:05:01.570 --> 01:05:04.330 Now, whether or not he actually fixes the problem is a separate issue. 01:05:04.510 --> 01:05:07.250 But I think fundamentally, like a lot of people. 01:05:08.130 --> 01:05:14.770 Like if you start talking about, well, he's just not following the right process, 01:05:15.610 --> 01:05:17.390 they completely tune that out. 01:05:17.510 --> 01:05:21.590 And I think the whole democracy thing was that it's like, that's just the process. 01:05:21.590 --> 01:05:25.950 What about what you're trying to, what he's trying to do, What are the results? 01:05:26.290 --> 01:05:34.970 And, and, you know, and I think one of Trump's master strokes of realization, 01:05:34.970 --> 01:05:38.070 besides realizing how many people were racist and sexist, 01:05:38.230 --> 01:05:42.610 was figuring out that, like, it's, it's all about it. 01:05:42.750 --> 01:05:46.310 It's all about no one cares about process, the number of people who really and 01:05:46.310 --> 01:05:50.090 truly care about process to the point where they will depend, 01:05:50.330 --> 01:05:56.290 defend the process vigorously, even if it results in something they don't like. is very small. 01:05:56.710 --> 01:06:00.110 Most people view process only instrumentally. 01:06:00.830 --> 01:06:04.410 We like the process because it helps us get what we want. 01:06:04.590 --> 01:06:09.270 And if it doesn't help us get what we want, then we don't like the process. 01:06:09.390 --> 01:06:12.130 And the process is a problem, and we should figure out how to get around it. 01:06:12.430 --> 01:06:16.570 So the number of people who sort of on a principled level care about having 01:06:16.570 --> 01:06:18.990 a good process is vanishingly small. 01:06:19.570 --> 01:06:27.730 And meanwhile, what gets through the media ecosystem, especially like when you add in, you know, 01:06:28.710 --> 01:06:33.170 sort of the motivated media ecosystem is just action are. 01:06:33.170 --> 01:06:38.870 They doing something are they doing something yeah and that's and what's our first impression. 01:06:38.870 --> 01:06:43.210 So like if he if his first impression is like oh he was really tough on them 01:06:43.210 --> 01:06:46.270 he put on the sanctions the fact that like less than. 01:06:46.270 --> 01:06:48.410 24 hours later he undid it. 01:06:48.410 --> 01:06:50.490 All and without getting any real. 01:06:50.490 --> 01:06:54.530 Concessions and he claims the win anyway i'm 01:06:54.530 --> 01:06:57.470 seeing a whole bunch of people like posting about getting 01:06:57.470 --> 01:07:00.650 laid off support fire getting fired for 01:07:00.650 --> 01:07:03.650 cause okay uh you know 01:07:03.650 --> 01:07:06.490 terminations like at the federal government i 01:07:06.490 --> 01:07:10.310 was looking at somebody to post something about being at the usda and 01:07:10.310 --> 01:07:13.850 four out of five people in the area got fired for cause listen 01:07:13.850 --> 01:07:16.990 uh for cause you know termination 01:07:16.990 --> 01:07:19.790 like that the federal government isn't just something that happens in one day 01:07:19.790 --> 01:07:23.430 there's a there is a process documentation not all 01:07:23.430 --> 01:07:26.250 of this shit whatever all of these things if you take them 01:07:26.250 --> 01:07:29.690 to even the shittiest labor lawyer okay 01:07:29.690 --> 01:07:32.490 all right they will go to court they will win this 01:07:32.490 --> 01:07:35.330 case okay it's not even it's a slam dunk 01:07:35.330 --> 01:07:39.950 of a win but like you said he is going to put them through that he's going to 01:07:39.950 --> 01:07:42.930 put them through that he's going to make them go to court he's going to make 01:07:42.930 --> 01:07:46.850 them get their money and and it'll probably wind of costing a federal government 01:07:46.850 --> 01:07:53.130 a ton more money instead of like them having to do something like with the law, working with Congress. 01:07:53.870 --> 01:07:55.370 Figuring out how to cut employees. 01:07:55.730 --> 01:07:59.110 Somebody was talking about that Bill Clinton together with Newt Greenwich back 01:07:59.110 --> 01:08:03.510 in the 90s. They actually cut like a few hundred thousand federal employees. 01:08:03.890 --> 01:08:07.390 Okay. You know, they did it, but they agreed to it. There was a process. 01:08:07.590 --> 01:08:09.290 How are we going to do this? Blah, blah, blah. 01:08:09.950 --> 01:08:15.010 But that's not what we have right now. This is not thought out, planned, whatever. 01:08:15.370 --> 01:08:20.370 This is just, you know, we'll fire them now, we'll deal with the consequences later, sue us. 01:08:21.030 --> 01:08:26.530 Right. Yeah. And also news alerts while we've been recording. 01:08:26.770 --> 01:08:31.270 I saw some with some additional, like, another thousand people at the VA were 01:08:31.270 --> 01:08:33.610 cut, apparently, today. Got their notices. 01:08:34.050 --> 01:08:37.450 I don't know if it was for cause or what excuse they used this time. 01:08:37.790 --> 01:08:40.650 You know, but, you know, it's just boom, boom, boom. 01:08:40.770 --> 01:08:44.430 There's more of this. And like you said, small, tiny numbers compared to the 01:08:44.430 --> 01:08:48.630 overall federal workforce, even more so according to the deficit. 01:08:48.770 --> 01:08:54.190 Yeah, the VA, which we know has been historically an area that has been super 01:08:54.190 --> 01:09:00.270 overfunded because veterans have been getting such great care from the federal 01:09:00.270 --> 01:09:03.330 government that definitely that's a place where they need to cut. 01:09:04.030 --> 01:09:04.610 Exactly. 01:09:04.610 --> 01:09:12.270 And I mean, if there's a group of people have gotten fucked in this country, it's veterans. 01:09:12.810 --> 01:09:13.590 Mm hmm. 01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.640 Yeah. Okay. One, one more thing and then let's wrap it up so you can go to sleep. 01:09:19.040 --> 01:09:24.000 I just wanted to mention that we did have, how do you say his name? Hogarth. 01:09:24.200 --> 01:09:27.780 Hogarth. The secretary of defense guy. 01:09:28.340 --> 01:09:30.480 Hagseth. Is it Hagseth? 01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:31.380 Yeah, Hagseth. 01:09:31.380 --> 01:09:32.580 Whatever the fuck his name is. Okay. 01:09:32.820 --> 01:09:33.780 Whatever. Anyway. 01:09:34.020 --> 01:09:35.260 Hogarth? I don't know. 01:09:35.480 --> 01:09:39.660 Uh-uh. Wow. I had an H. I was good enough. 01:09:39.740 --> 01:09:40.920 You didn't start with an H. Okay. 01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:49.100 Anyway, he apparently, he was in Europe talking about the Ukraine situation 01:09:49.100 --> 01:09:50.660 and about Europe more generally. 01:09:50.940 --> 01:09:56.380 The key elements he said is he explicitly, this had been implied for a long 01:09:56.380 --> 01:10:04.240 time, but he very explicitly said that, you know, going back to pre-2014 borders 01:10:04.240 --> 01:10:05.660 for Ukraine is not going to happen. 01:10:06.040 --> 01:10:10.280 He explicitly said Ukraine being in NATO is not going to happen. 01:10:11.500 --> 01:10:18.180 and he he basically laid all that out and look we've been we've been talking that's probably true, 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:25.200 even without that even without him saying that but he's basically kick-starting 01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:29.420 the negotiations with russia that they're going to force ukraine into by saying 01:10:29.420 --> 01:10:35.640 right off the bat you know those those things aren't even on the table you know which is a dumb. 01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:39.460 Negotiating stance to start from But by the way, they're doing this without 01:10:39.460 --> 01:10:41.020 Ukraine being at the fucking table. 01:10:41.580 --> 01:10:44.920 Exactly. Ukraine is not even at the table. They are negotiating. 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:46.820 The Trump administration. 01:10:46.860 --> 01:10:49.880 Which is another fucking. I mean, and I'm like, okay. 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.100 They're doing the same thing they did like in Israel about the Palestinians 01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:57.420 where like in the first administration when they did the Abraham Accords or 01:10:57.420 --> 01:11:01.280 whatever, didn't even ask the Palestinians. Didn't talk to them at all. 01:11:01.820 --> 01:11:05.660 You know, we're going to make a deal about you without you. And that's what 01:11:05.660 --> 01:11:07.100 they're doing so far with Ukraine 01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:10.240 too. Apparently, he's going to talk to Zelensky tomorrow or something. 01:11:10.420 --> 01:11:16.520 But, you know, but they're starting out this process clearly with the mode of, look, 01:11:17.370 --> 01:11:22.610 Russia and the U.S. are going to carve this up how they want and then just tell 01:11:22.610 --> 01:11:24.470 the Ukrainians that they have to deal with it. 01:11:25.410 --> 01:11:33.130 The other thing that he said at that same conversation was he went further than that and said, 01:11:34.230 --> 01:11:35.750 Europe is going to have to get 01:11:35.750 --> 01:11:40.950 used to the idea that their primary defense does not come from the U.S. 01:11:42.010 --> 01:11:46.230 Listen, he is basically trying to put a stake in the heart of NATO. 01:11:46.630 --> 01:11:47.070 Yep. 01:11:47.370 --> 01:11:52.010 So he said that, you know, there are going to be in NATO, but at the same time, 01:11:52.090 --> 01:11:55.910 I'm like, I mean, is NATO going to survive this administration? 01:11:56.770 --> 01:12:01.310 I mean, Trump has said repeatedly he wants to leave NATO. He thinks it's a useless organization. 01:12:01.610 --> 01:12:08.110 And his current thing is he's trying to push them to go from a target of 3% 01:12:08.110 --> 01:12:12.290 of GDP spending on defense to 5% now. 01:12:12.490 --> 01:12:14.090 Where we're not even at that! 01:12:14.750 --> 01:12:19.430 Where we're not even with that. And of course he keeps, maybe he's slightly better. 01:12:19.530 --> 01:12:23.470 He keeps saying that it's the amount they have to pay, the dues they have to 01:12:23.470 --> 01:12:24.910 pay. Or that's not how it works. 01:12:24.910 --> 01:12:29.130 That is complete horse shit. I mean, we're not even at that. 01:12:29.550 --> 01:12:32.430 We're like at 3.3% ourselves. 01:12:32.850 --> 01:12:35.890 But wait, Ivan. He's going to cut it in half. 01:12:36.170 --> 01:12:38.510 Right, so he wants to take us down to 1.5! 01:12:40.050 --> 01:12:42.690 Well, if we're not defending Europe anymore, why do we need that? 01:12:43.270 --> 01:12:43.890 I guess. 01:12:44.090 --> 01:12:50.290 I mean, and look, there are a lot of reasons that, you know, 01:12:50.450 --> 01:12:55.150 look, maybe it would have been smart for Europe to be doing more of their own 01:12:55.150 --> 01:12:56.410 defense for a long time, maybe. 01:12:56.890 --> 01:13:01.270 But at the same time, like the whole thing with all of this is like, 01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:08.080 There's no sense of the history of it at all or the reasons that was in place in the first place. 01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:08.440 No. 01:13:08.820 --> 01:13:16.720 You know, all of this was set up post-World War II, not just to defend against the Soviet Union. 01:13:17.280 --> 01:13:18.920 But against everybody else. 01:13:19.120 --> 01:13:23.280 I remember to say Soviet Union instead of Russia because we were talking about the past there. 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:28.060 But no, but also to tame Europe itself. 01:13:28.700 --> 01:13:33.920 Yeah. You know, Europe had— From all the fucking wars! At two major world wars 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:37.800 in the 20th century, and if you go back to the 19th or 18th century, 01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:39.000 there were wars all the time. 01:13:39.300 --> 01:13:40.400 There were wars all the time. 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:49.820 And the time period from World War II until the invasion of Ukraine by Russia 01:13:49.820 --> 01:13:57.200 was the longest period of peace in that continent in centuries ever, probably. 01:13:57.400 --> 01:13:58.540 Ever. I'm sure. 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.020 Maybe Roman Empire times. I don't know. 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:05.260 Maybe, maybe. There was that Pax Romana. 01:14:05.400 --> 01:14:10.120 Pax Romana. Yeah. So there were reasons for this. 01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:15.900 The same thing we were talking about, USAID being sort of the soft diplomacy stuff. 01:14:16.940 --> 01:14:22.300 The existence of NATO and all of the arrangements there that we had and, 01:14:22.300 --> 01:14:26.680 you know, help to stabilize the continent. 01:14:27.660 --> 01:14:31.880 And, you know, if we're saying, if we essentially end up saying, 01:14:32.040 --> 01:14:36.120 okay, we're done with NATO, we're out of here, you guys are on your own. 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:42.240 It's just inviting. I mean, I don't know if Putin would be crazy enough to go 01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:44.620 after the Baltics or to invade more countries. 01:14:44.980 --> 01:14:47.620 Certainly, he's going to lick his wounds for a while after Ukraine, 01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.600 because that, like, in the end, that has not worked out great for him. 01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.860 But if we end up saying, okay, 01:14:54.200 --> 01:15:02.580 you can keep part of Ukraine and we're clearly retreating from Europe, 01:15:02.580 --> 01:15:08.880 is it going to embolden him for whatever the next thing is? I don't know. 01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:09.300 Yes. 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:17.540 You know? And if the end result of this is Europe itself militarizing further, 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.860 which is already happening, is that good? 01:15:21.940 --> 01:15:26.800 You know? I don't think so. Anyway. 01:15:27.900 --> 01:15:32.720 I think that's it, Yvonne. I mean, it's short, but it's late for you. We should let you go. 01:15:33.100 --> 01:15:36.040 Unless you have something else that we missed that you want to make sure we hit. 01:15:36.200 --> 01:15:40.020 No, no, but I do have my one thing. Okay. 01:15:40.240 --> 01:15:42.480 The Slack. Oh, okay. Yes. 01:15:42.660 --> 01:15:46.220 Okay. Well, you know, we're all concerned about our investments. 01:15:46.220 --> 01:15:49.420 And I think I mentioned recently that I was buying gold. 01:15:50.020 --> 01:15:53.480 Okay. Because of my concerns, which I did do that. 01:15:54.100 --> 01:15:55.920 One thing that came in the news. 01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:01.680 global funds turned to Pakistan as an 84% stock rally set to an extent. 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.380 Some of the world's top money managers are once again favoring Pakistani stocks 01:16:06.380 --> 01:16:11.500 after market returns last year were among the best globally. So, Sam? 01:16:11.900 --> 01:16:13.280 Put it all in Pakistan. 01:16:13.820 --> 01:16:14.960 All our money. 01:16:15.400 --> 01:16:20.440 All our money. But I already put it all in Trump coin. 01:16:21.360 --> 01:16:25.800 Well, I saw here somewhere. I have bad news for you. 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:31.680 uh if i read over here correctly i can't remember what the losses were but they 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:38.540 were talking about over here i mean 80 percent losses and like people that invested 01:16:38.540 --> 01:16:41.340 in the trump coin so i'm sorry it's. 01:16:41.340 --> 01:16:45.720 Okay i'm gonna shift it all over to the hawk to a coin and make it all back. 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:51.180 That way go up right now it's already plunged like 90 nobody knows where hawk 01:16:51.180 --> 01:16:57.520 to what is do you realize that after I thought she resurfaced a couple of days ago. Did she? 01:16:57.900 --> 01:16:59.620 I thought so, but I could be wrong. 01:17:00.120 --> 01:17:06.080 Maybe? I don't know. But she basically took the money and just disappeared. 01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:15.760 And you know what? She really got a whole bunch of crypto bros for all money. 01:17:16.020 --> 01:17:23.720 And so I'm like, I hear what I hear is here something in the news was that Hawk 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:29.380 Tua's girl boyfriend wants money back after MeanCoin Fallout that's the one story I'm seeing, 01:17:30.100 --> 01:17:35.500 so I see that that her ex-boyfriend apparently, 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:40.660 there was something in the news about it but not that she appeared it's that 01:17:40.660 --> 01:17:45.680 her ex-boyfriend Hawk Tua girl's boyfriend wants money backed after MeanCoin 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:51.520 Fallout That's the news story I found right now when I Googled her. 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:52.920 Not that she reappeared. 01:17:53.160 --> 01:17:55.960 It's that also apparently probably someone of these. 01:17:56.400 --> 01:18:00.200 Oh, no, no, there it is six days ago. Off to a girl, Hayley Winsch breaks her 01:18:00.200 --> 01:18:03.540 two-month silence and addresses her cryptocurrency scandal. There she is. 01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:04.440 There? 01:18:04.780 --> 01:18:07.920 Yeah, there you go. So, yes. I think she apologized. 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:15.480 I mean, basically her excuse, which I completely buy, is that, like, 01:18:16.450 --> 01:18:19.850 She didn't know what she was doing. She was manipulated into it by all these 01:18:19.850 --> 01:18:22.370 crypto folks around her trying to do this. 01:18:22.590 --> 01:18:25.730 I totally, I 100% believe. 01:18:26.350 --> 01:18:26.670 Yeah. 01:18:26.990 --> 01:18:28.070 I 100% believe. 01:18:28.430 --> 01:18:32.650 And meanwhile, like if you get that moment of fame from your viral moment, 01:18:33.050 --> 01:18:35.730 absolutely cash in in every fucking way you can. 01:18:36.210 --> 01:18:40.190 Yeah. And just, you know, whatever. I mean, you know, look, I'm pretty sure 01:18:40.190 --> 01:18:44.390 she didn't know anything about Quaint. they put it here to her. 01:18:44.490 --> 01:18:47.310 She got some money and then these people screwed everybody and she's like, 01:18:47.390 --> 01:18:50.670 well, what the fuck? I didn't even do this. I didn't even understand what the fuck was going on. 01:18:51.390 --> 01:18:51.510 Right. 01:18:52.710 --> 01:18:53.550 I believe that. 01:18:53.790 --> 01:18:58.690 Anyway, that was the thing you usually do after I tell people to go to the website. 01:18:59.030 --> 01:19:00.710 I'll tell people to go to the website now. 01:19:01.970 --> 01:19:06.710 curmudgeons-corner.com There you can find all the ways to contact us. 01:19:06.790 --> 01:19:09.070 You can find our archives and our transcripts. 01:19:09.550 --> 01:19:11.690 We have not made the curmudgeons coin. 01:19:11.690 --> 01:19:14.290 You know, we should make one. I mean, what the hell? Why not? 01:19:14.810 --> 01:19:18.630 I know. And then we have to orchestrate the rug pull correctly. 01:19:18.990 --> 01:19:21.770 I mean, that's, you know, that's what these are for, right? 01:19:21.930 --> 01:19:24.410 But you're not supposed to be saying that up front. 01:19:25.170 --> 01:19:30.310 Oh, oh, but if we say it up front and just tell everybody right up front, 01:19:30.450 --> 01:19:31.510 then it's not fraud, right? 01:19:32.090 --> 01:19:36.450 Well, that is true. Yes. I mean, the reality is that we're telling you that we're doing it. 01:19:37.050 --> 01:19:40.910 so basically we're adopting the trump like strategy hey i'm. 01:19:40.910 --> 01:19:41.370 Telling you. 01:19:41.370 --> 01:19:45.090 That i'm gonna fuck you over so oh there you go so why are you surprised. 01:19:45.090 --> 01:19:48.590 Exactly so anyway you 01:19:48.590 --> 01:19:52.330 can find all that stuff there you can also find a link to our patreon where 01:19:52.330 --> 01:19:57.130 you can give us money for us to invest in trump coin and hawk to a girl coin 01:19:57.130 --> 01:20:05.550 and uh you know that that's that's what we'll do yeah So give us more Patreon money. 01:20:05.650 --> 01:20:08.670 No, no, no. Pakistan. What are you talking about? 01:20:08.990 --> 01:20:09.730 Oh, yes, Pakistan. 01:20:10.090 --> 01:20:14.370 What are you talking about? I'm going to have you in Pakistan. 01:20:15.230 --> 01:20:19.910 Can we invest in Pakistani stocks denominated in Trump coins? 01:20:21.310 --> 01:20:24.110 You know what? I'd have to research that one. I'm not sure. 01:20:25.610 --> 01:20:30.170 Oh, well. Okay. I think we're done here. 01:20:30.170 --> 01:20:34.330 I'm done. At this point, if I am able to fall asleep right away, 01:20:34.430 --> 01:20:37.050 I'll have a beautiful four and a half hours of sleep. 01:20:37.770 --> 01:20:41.030 Beautiful. Okay. We're letting you go. Thanks, everybody, for joining us. 01:20:41.150 --> 01:20:45.070 Stay safe. Have a great week. We will talk to you next time. 01:20:46.150 --> 01:20:49.430 Goodbye. Let us know if you like shows this length. Maybe we should do this 01:20:49.430 --> 01:20:51.870 more often. Anyway, bye! Bye. 01:21:23.170 --> 01:21:26.010 Okay, that be it. I'm hitting stop. Go to sleep, Yvonne.