WEBVTT 00:00:01.990 --> 00:00:12.330 Welcome get the stream gun being very corporate today you are yeah i see your. 00:00:12.330 --> 00:00:16.510 Sponsorships okay let me do this, 00:00:18.450 --> 00:00:20.730 okay blah blah, 00:00:30.150 --> 00:00:39.150 and then do that. Okay, shall we just dump in or are there any preliminaries? 00:00:42.110 --> 00:00:43.750 Not that I can think of right now. 00:00:43.990 --> 00:00:45.910 Okay, here we go. 00:01:08.830 --> 00:01:16.770 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, January 25th, 2025. 00:01:16.770 --> 00:01:21.170 It is just after 18 UTC as we're starting to record. 00:01:21.430 --> 00:01:23.550 I'm Sam and Trayvon Boas here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:01:24.130 --> 00:01:24.490 Hello. 00:01:26.490 --> 00:01:29.770 It is a day. So we're going to do our usual. 00:01:29.970 --> 00:01:30.810 No, really? 00:01:31.250 --> 00:01:33.750 I know it is a day. 00:01:34.610 --> 00:01:35.230 A day. 00:01:35.730 --> 00:01:36.490 A day. 00:01:36.490 --> 00:01:40.490 Not the day. Not the day. Not D day. 00:01:40.870 --> 00:01:45.550 A day. A day. Okay. Tomorrow will be B day. 00:01:46.010 --> 00:01:49.190 Okay. So this is the way we're starting this. Okay, good. All right. 00:01:49.450 --> 00:01:50.070 Very good. 00:01:50.230 --> 00:01:52.390 We've got everything in order. Okay, great. Great. 00:01:52.550 --> 00:01:56.450 Okay, we're going to do our usual but first with random things to talk about. 00:01:56.510 --> 00:01:59.470 And then our two more serious segments after that. 00:01:59.810 --> 00:02:02.990 But, you know, nothing's happened this week, has it? It's going to be boring. 00:02:03.650 --> 00:02:10.690 I mean, how much of real true substance happened? 00:02:11.090 --> 00:02:13.970 There is a number of things of true substance, yes. 00:02:13.970 --> 00:02:21.850 But there is a lot more smoke than actual substance so yeah a lot of stuff happened 00:02:21.850 --> 00:02:27.150 yes I mean I think we're finally going to get to the bottom of who killed JFK, 00:02:28.600 --> 00:02:33.800 You know, stuff like that, you know, stuff like that, very critical, critical, critical. 00:02:34.040 --> 00:02:38.580 OK, well, we'll get to the newsy stuff in the next segment. But you got any 00:02:38.580 --> 00:02:45.420 anything that non newsy, non less serious, whatever that you want to talk about, Dave? 00:02:45.420 --> 00:02:49.280 I know I have I have something on my agenda. I have two things on my agenda, actually. 00:02:49.480 --> 00:02:50.960 You have two things. Wow. 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:51.560 Two things. 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:58.320 Well, you know, I'm sitting here opening mail. OK. Yes. 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.360 And I, you know, I still. 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.180 Physical mail, to be clear. 00:03:03.340 --> 00:03:04.140 Physical mail. 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:05.940 We talked about email last week. 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:10.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This week I'm back on the subject of physical mail. 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:18.180 You know, and one of the things about physical mail, you know, 00:03:18.260 --> 00:03:20.240 I still regularly check it. 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:24.920 You know, not the way that I used to check it, I will admit. 00:03:25.540 --> 00:03:29.180 I used to be somebody that made sure that I got the mail every day. 00:03:31.140 --> 00:03:35.160 You know, that was very important. And the mail had a lot more stuff. 00:03:35.320 --> 00:03:38.240 One of the big things that used to come in the mail, which is why I checked 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.000 it every day, was like magazines and stuff. 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:45.000 You know, so where you were going to read stuff, you know, but what the hell is going on? 00:03:45.340 --> 00:03:48.960 You know, I mean, those came in the mail, especially when I lived in Puerto Rico. 00:03:49.160 --> 00:03:51.440 It was like tougher to get those on the newsstand. You could, 00:03:51.600 --> 00:03:56.320 but there were not as many stores, especially around where I lived, to go get those. 00:03:56.480 --> 00:03:59.740 So you want to get the magazines in the mail, okay? All right. 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.760 That's very, very critical. I remember that for a while, we also got the Wall 00:04:04.760 --> 00:04:08.120 Street Journal sent through the mail. It didn't print it in Puerto Rico. 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.860 And that arrived usually like about four or five days after the day at print. 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.420 Still a lot, you know, the daily news stuff, maybe not as relevant. 00:04:20.460 --> 00:04:26.420 As some of the, you know, more like analysis on other things that whatnot, but still pick that up. 00:04:26.700 --> 00:04:35.040 Had a guy that at our store that his number one job, literally his main job 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.020 was to go to the post office to get the mail. 00:04:38.440 --> 00:04:40.920 There are two jobs that he had. Okay. 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.720 Go to the post office and get the mail. 00:04:44.020 --> 00:04:44.780 Okay. Yeah. 00:04:44.940 --> 00:04:52.680 Then go to the bank and deposit money because we ran a retail store and we got every day, lots of cash. 00:04:52.940 --> 00:04:53.340 Right. 00:04:53.460 --> 00:04:57.380 I mean, you know, we, we had to, you had to go to the bank every day. 00:04:57.520 --> 00:04:58.580 You had to go physically deal with the cash. 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.120 Yes. There was, it was literally, I mean, even back in the day, 00:05:02.280 --> 00:05:03.920 thousands of dollars every day. 00:05:04.220 --> 00:05:09.480 I mean, on a, on a very, very busy day, I will say probably like one of the 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:13.880 busiest days, it could exceed $20,000 in cash. 00:05:13.880 --> 00:05:17.480 Right. And just to be clear, we're not talking crazy numbers. 00:05:17.640 --> 00:05:21.400 This is just you have a store and people are coming in and buying stuff throughout the day. 00:05:21.640 --> 00:05:25.440 I mean, this is what happens. This is what happens. 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:25.740 You know. 00:05:25.760 --> 00:05:29.240 And like you said, back in the day, most of this was cash. 00:05:29.760 --> 00:05:35.660 Like today- Most of it was cash. It was so rare that people paid with a credit card at our store. 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.260 People pay with a credit card more often at the travel agency. 00:05:39.840 --> 00:05:44.240 And even that wasn't the preponderance of it. But in the 80s. 00:05:44.820 --> 00:05:48.660 Whereas today, cash has to be the exception, even at most stores. 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.960 Yeah. Yeah. Hell, there are stores now that don't even want to take cash. 00:05:52.460 --> 00:05:57.360 But every day, Marcial was the name of the guy. Rest in peace. 00:05:57.980 --> 00:06:01.960 Old guy. Okay. He was old when I knew it was little. I mean, 00:06:02.180 --> 00:06:07.740 he had been a guy that, you know, we talk about immigrants and labor. 00:06:08.180 --> 00:06:13.800 He had, when Puerto Rico went through a very tough economic period in the 50s, 00:06:13.900 --> 00:06:15.420 he had emigrated to the U.S. 00:06:15.840 --> 00:06:21.740 And had worked the steel mills in Allentown, okay, for many years. 00:06:21.740 --> 00:06:25.380 Then he worked as not 00:06:25.380 --> 00:06:28.500 the driver because he couldn't really drive but as 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:31.540 the as the sidekick for an ambulance 00:06:31.540 --> 00:06:34.360 driver service where they would go you know pick 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:40.240 up paramedics where he wasn't really a paramedic he was just the the driver's 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:46.960 sidekick okay basically okay and so he would he would run the sirens he would 00:06:46.960 --> 00:06:52.800 do the flash the lights he would do that stuff and then at some At some point, he retired, 00:06:53.280 --> 00:06:56.980 okay, and my grandfather knew him, and he was kind of bored puttering around. 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.000 He had been divorced. He had kids, but they didn't live in Puerto Rico, 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.960 and he moved back to our small town in Puerto Rico, very tiny town. 00:07:03.280 --> 00:07:08.080 And my grandfather basically gave him, you know, his odd job was go to a post 00:07:08.080 --> 00:07:10.480 office every day, go to the bank every day. 00:07:11.070 --> 00:07:19.550 And to be clear, there is a reason why that was a job that took hours every day. 00:07:19.790 --> 00:07:26.370 This wasn't just a two minute run. OK, the the post office where, 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:31.190 you know, we got most of our mail delivered. We had a P.O. box. 00:07:31.870 --> 00:07:37.130 If any items that couldn't fit inside the P.O. box, you would have to make a 00:07:37.130 --> 00:07:41.390 line at the counter to pick up all this stuff. 00:07:41.550 --> 00:07:47.770 And because we got so much stuff, he would have to go over there and pick up 00:07:47.770 --> 00:07:50.830 the stuff, and then he would walk back, and then he would go and pick up the 00:07:50.830 --> 00:07:51.930 money and then go to the bank. 00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:55.350 And look, going to the bank, there was a big line. 00:07:55.890 --> 00:07:59.890 I mean, this whole thing took an entire morning. 00:07:59.890 --> 00:08:02.730 Okay literally to get this shit 00:08:02.730 --> 00:08:05.650 done every day okay and and 00:08:05.650 --> 00:08:08.510 then by the way he would run and get me breakfast which that was great okay by 00:08:08.510 --> 00:08:11.750 the way because i liked it you know he would bring me my perfect cheese sandwich 00:08:11.750 --> 00:08:14.670 with with uh with my with my with my 00:08:14.670 --> 00:08:17.450 little cup of coffee you know with back then i 00:08:17.450 --> 00:08:20.510 drank it with milk i don't drink with milk but a perfectly made 00:08:20.510 --> 00:08:23.330 cup of coffee with milk was great all of a sudden i get i guess 00:08:23.330 --> 00:08:26.050 i got i got money in the bank and i get my 00:08:26.050 --> 00:08:28.770 i get my breakfast which is fantastic that was always very nice 00:08:28.770 --> 00:08:31.910 by the way he got pissed off if i asked somebody 00:08:31.910 --> 00:08:34.910 else to go get my breakfast okay that 00:08:34.910 --> 00:08:38.310 was his job okay nobody takes 00:08:38.310 --> 00:08:41.090 my job here and i'm sitting over here and 00:08:41.090 --> 00:08:43.850 opening opening the mail and i realize that back then because we got 00:08:43.850 --> 00:08:48.310 so much of it yes yeah yeah well you know because the courier but what is the 00:08:48.310 --> 00:08:52.270 reason it reminded me about the guy is because of the mail well we have these 00:08:52.270 --> 00:08:55.930 you know i have these little these little things that I would insert at the 00:08:55.930 --> 00:09:00.130 end of each letter envelope in order to quickly yeah I had these letter well 00:09:00.130 --> 00:09:02.170 you got the ones that are like a knife, 00:09:02.690 --> 00:09:06.350 not the letter openers but there are ones that were like a little like curved 00:09:06.350 --> 00:09:10.870 that had a little like blade in it you would just insert it and you could open 00:09:10.870 --> 00:09:14.490 and you needed that shit and when you're opening in a day. 00:09:15.270 --> 00:09:20.970 40, 50 letters you know every damn day you need one of those damn letter openers 00:09:20.970 --> 00:09:22.670 to go through all this shit okay, 00:09:23.730 --> 00:09:26.570 um you know so so yeah i mean i'm like 00:09:26.570 --> 00:09:29.490 right now realize that i'm opening this stuff and i'm like i'm kind of like 00:09:29.490 --> 00:09:34.230 wishing i had a letter opener right now you know but but but i don't have a 00:09:34.230 --> 00:09:38.910 letter opener and and the volume of mail i get i mean i literally i i go now 00:09:38.910 --> 00:09:44.170 that it's like once a week uh it's not a lot okay let me let. 00:09:44.170 --> 00:09:47.490 Wait let me let me tell you because you will be amused by this because of course 00:09:47.490 --> 00:09:52.750 like everything else i log this electronically i'm i'm showing the people on the screen. 00:09:54.670 --> 00:09:59.070 But, but so here, here, here's what I got. First of all, you caught me at a 00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:01.350 good time. It has only been a, 00:10:01.510 --> 00:10:05.590 one week, four days and 16 hours since the last time I've checked my mailbox. 00:10:06.330 --> 00:10:06.490 Okay. 00:10:06.910 --> 00:10:12.990 Okay. But to be clear, the last time it had been over six weeks and they had 00:10:12.990 --> 00:10:15.070 put a little note in it that said, your mailbox is full. 00:10:15.170 --> 00:10:19.510 You had to go to the post office, which they do like if, you know, 00:10:19.610 --> 00:10:22.910 if it gets full and which happens to us once or twice a year. 00:10:23.710 --> 00:10:28.970 And so I did have to go to to post office and, you know, pick up a large bin 00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:31.110 of mail that had accumulated. 00:10:31.690 --> 00:10:34.550 And I actually had to go to the post office twice. Cause like what you were 00:10:34.550 --> 00:10:37.070 saying about lines at the post office, still true, actually. 00:10:37.570 --> 00:10:40.390 Like I went to the employees now. 00:10:41.910 --> 00:10:47.970 So I went like the day that I was supposed to go to Olympia to witness my wife's 00:10:47.970 --> 00:10:51.670 swearing in, like, I was like, I'll go to the post office on the way. 00:10:52.070 --> 00:10:57.130 And it was like, you know, 9am or something. And I had to be there by noon and 00:10:57.130 --> 00:10:59.670 it's like a two hour drive to get there, whatever. 00:10:59.890 --> 00:11:02.670 So I went to the post office. I got there. There was a long line. 00:11:02.770 --> 00:11:04.850 I'm like, okay, I can wait in line. It'll move pretty quickly. 00:11:04.950 --> 00:11:06.230 It did not move pretty quickly. 00:11:06.790 --> 00:11:09.250 It was a lot of people shipping parses is what I. 00:11:09.310 --> 00:11:13.510 There's a lot of people shipping partial. That's the most that by far that seems 00:11:13.510 --> 00:11:14.790 to be the biggest activity. 00:11:15.130 --> 00:11:21.470 And, but it was going really, really slowly. And so I got, I wasted about 20 minutes in line. 00:11:21.630 --> 00:11:25.330 And then I was like, I was looking at ways. I was looking at the amount of time 00:11:25.330 --> 00:11:27.630 it would take me to get to where I was going. And I was like, 00:11:27.730 --> 00:11:30.450 I can't, I gotta, I gotta bail. 00:11:30.730 --> 00:11:34.750 So I bailed out of the line. I went, and then I came back the next day. 00:11:35.150 --> 00:11:39.590 And when I had more time and I waited in line, I got my mail and it was a big, big package. 00:11:39.730 --> 00:11:43.870 But the point I wanted to make further is that it seems like, 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:45.910 okay, six weeks, one time. 00:11:46.190 --> 00:11:50.570 Right now it's like a little, almost two weeks since last time you checked your 00:11:50.570 --> 00:11:53.050 mailbox. That's not too bad. But see, here's the thing. 00:11:53.870 --> 00:12:00.470 In our entryway, I have set up a whole set of bins to contain the mail. 00:12:01.050 --> 00:12:05.630 So I have a bin for Brandy, a bin for me, a bin for her campaign stuff, 00:12:05.790 --> 00:12:07.770 a bin for Alex, a bin for Amy. 00:12:08.150 --> 00:12:13.950 So you open the front door of your house and you have mail bins. 00:12:14.330 --> 00:12:21.170 I mean, this feels like the time when I worked at HP where I had a mail slot for me. 00:12:21.590 --> 00:12:25.510 Exactly. Exactly like that. Except they're bigger than the mail slots you typically 00:12:25.510 --> 00:12:29.930 have. what I actually have, these are, these are the, it's the kind of container 00:12:29.930 --> 00:12:32.830 that's built for like shoes and stuff. 00:12:33.050 --> 00:12:37.530 So they're the size of shoe boxes. They have little doors on the front. 00:12:37.670 --> 00:12:39.770 I have labels on them, all of this kind of stuff. 00:12:39.990 --> 00:12:44.010 And so whenever I do get the mail, I sort them into these bins. 00:12:44.590 --> 00:12:49.970 And then I have sort of reminder tasks that I occasionally do to actually go 00:12:49.970 --> 00:12:53.310 through the bins and deal with whatever's inside. 00:12:53.610 --> 00:12:59.350 So how long do you think it's been since I have looked at my own personal bin 00:12:59.350 --> 00:13:05.330 to sort through and find and go through my stuff and see if there's anything 00:13:05.330 --> 00:13:07.310 important, throw away the stuff that's not important? 00:13:07.850 --> 00:13:08.710 A year. 00:13:10.150 --> 00:13:12.870 Not quite that bad right now. 41 weeks. 00:13:13.430 --> 00:13:14.030 Close. 00:13:14.590 --> 00:13:17.750 Specifically 40 weeks, six days, and 23 hours. Yeah. 00:13:17.850 --> 00:13:19.370 Yeah. So so about 10 months. 00:13:19.490 --> 00:13:22.670 It was April 13th. It was April 13th. The last time it happened. 00:13:22.830 --> 00:13:27.610 The last time we've sat down and gone through Brandy's email. 62 weeks. 00:13:27.770 --> 00:13:28.830 You mean mail, mail. 00:13:29.110 --> 00:13:32.830 Mail, mail, not email. 662 weeks, four days, 16 hours. 00:13:32.830 --> 00:13:37.850 Okay, but if the notice is like, say, for example, I just pulled up a W-2, 00:13:38.290 --> 00:13:44.410 okay, which for something that my wife's doing, that they don't send an electronic W-2, for example. 00:13:45.670 --> 00:13:47.850 So here's what would happen. 00:13:47.890 --> 00:13:50.050 Do you pull that stuff out first? 00:13:50.490 --> 00:13:55.090 No, but I don't even look at it. I only look at the name. I don't look at the sender. 00:13:55.250 --> 00:13:58.990 I don't look at anything about it whatsoever. So if there was something important 00:13:58.990 --> 00:14:04.350 in there, like a jury duty summons, or I'm being sued, or what, 00:14:04.430 --> 00:14:06.970 I guess you have to do some of those things in person. 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:12.130 But if it was something important, like your house will be torn down by bulldozers 00:14:12.130 --> 00:14:14.150 in five weeks if you don't respond. 00:14:14.230 --> 00:14:15.550 Unless you don't respond to this notice. 00:14:15.690 --> 00:14:17.750 I would not know. I would not know. 00:14:19.170 --> 00:14:20.230 That's great, Sam. 00:14:20.230 --> 00:14:24.910 Now, here's the thing. The, yes. 00:14:25.110 --> 00:14:29.950 So what would happen in that case is when we sat down to do our taxes, 00:14:29.950 --> 00:14:34.090 if we recognized that something was missing, I would go look for that missing 00:14:34.090 --> 00:14:36.270 thing. But I would not find out. 00:14:36.270 --> 00:14:39.210 Of course, here's the rub in this. 00:14:40.620 --> 00:14:45.640 You might not know that something came in for your taxes, okay? 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:52.520 That may be in there. That sometimes happens because you didn't expect it. It was something new. 00:14:53.400 --> 00:14:59.120 Something changed. And so, you know, you get one of those. Like, 00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:01.100 you get a letter that you owe the money. 00:15:01.500 --> 00:15:06.600 Well, yes. Yes. And as you know, that particular thing with the IRS has caught 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.600 us before. But, you know. 00:15:09.620 --> 00:15:14.100 You know so i'll eventually look at okay but here's another one while we're 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:20.380 talking about this yeah i also have on my little thing that i note how long 00:15:20.380 --> 00:15:23.260 do you think it's been since i've listened to my voicemail. 00:15:23.260 --> 00:15:29.620 Oh fuck well i think well do you okay probably. 00:15:29.620 --> 00:15:33.760 Or looked at i have that's barely or have you looked at it. 00:15:33.760 --> 00:15:35.160 And just read the transcripts. 00:15:35.160 --> 00:15:36.600 No oh fuck you. 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:38.680 Don't even but do that. So, so a year. 00:15:38.920 --> 00:15:42.280 88, at least 88 weeks. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:43.780 So almost two years. Okay. 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:49.340 It was May 15th, 2023 is the last time I've done that. 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:53.040 And when I do it, I only usually listen to a month of voicemail. 00:15:53.220 --> 00:15:55.080 So I won't be catching up anytime soon. 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.580 Maybe next time I'll do more than a month, you know? 00:15:59.260 --> 00:16:03.160 So I will, which of course I will listen to the old ones first. 00:16:03.260 --> 00:16:06.100 I'm not going I have to go in order. 00:16:06.280 --> 00:16:09.140 Right. Yeah, of course. Those are more important right now. Yes. 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:12.240 If two years ago they said that, hey, we're late delivering your pizza. 00:16:12.460 --> 00:16:18.540 Okay. That is definitely more important than any message that you've got like that. Yes. Of course. 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:26.480 Exactly. And so that is the plan. Yeah. Voicemails. 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:31.420 Now now to be clear if i am expecting 00:16:31.420 --> 00:16:37.600 a call that is different i will look and and i will sometimes read the thing 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:44.540 if it's that or if it's a recognized thing where i like i'm like oh this is 00:16:44.540 --> 00:16:48.240 from somebody that i know well. 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.380 I i'm guessing that if i called you because i don't call you anymore okay. 00:16:52.380 --> 00:16:52.840 All right. 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.620 That if i called you would be like shit what the fuck is going on let me pick up the phone. 00:16:57.140 --> 00:17:04.620 Yes, I mean, I will generally pick up the phone from, if the voicemail is, 00:17:05.360 --> 00:17:09.300 not the voicemail, if I see the caller ID, it's someone I know, 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:12.900 is like a human being, and I know them, I will generally pick up. 00:17:13.060 --> 00:17:17.060 I have it set so unknown numbers go straight to voicemail, it doesn't even ring the phone. 00:17:17.780 --> 00:17:20.700 You know, that makes sense. i i i mean i you 00:17:20.700 --> 00:17:23.960 know yeah i mean right now with the with the scourge of 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.160 unknown number you know so much bullshit 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.900 calls like yeah i mean like i answered the 00:17:29.900 --> 00:17:32.780 phone today i usually do that but i i answered a 00:17:32.780 --> 00:17:37.860 call today because i left my son at a singing class and i was working out and 00:17:37.860 --> 00:17:43.380 i saw that a call came in from a phone in the right area code okay and i'm like 00:17:43.380 --> 00:17:47.260 wondering hey is everything okay let you pick up the phone i found some fucking 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:50.340 realtor trying to fucking like I don't know, trying to get me. 00:17:50.780 --> 00:17:54.180 There's a thing that keeps happening. They keep calling me to see if I sell my parents' house. 00:17:54.740 --> 00:17:57.800 I mean, just regularly. They just fucking keep calling me about it. 00:17:57.840 --> 00:18:00.560 I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ, stay the fuck away from me. I don't want to 00:18:00.560 --> 00:18:02.500 sell a fucking house. Just leave me alone. 00:18:02.760 --> 00:18:09.020 Yeah, so I will, like, if I'm expecting something or otherwise see a phone call 00:18:09.020 --> 00:18:12.800 come in that I haven't picked up but was from a recognized number, 00:18:12.800 --> 00:18:18.520 I will go scan the voicemail and maybe in that situation. 00:18:18.820 --> 00:18:25.040 Look at the transcript maybe you know and i have accidentally i have accidentally 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:29.460 hit play a couple times and heard part of a message and i'm like oh shit i'm 00:18:29.460 --> 00:18:31.700 hearing it out of order no no. 00:18:31.700 --> 00:18:36.800 No no you're like abort abort abort abort. 00:18:36.800 --> 00:18:40.720 Exactly now uh alex 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.580 brought up a few things on my tracking list that so 00:18:44.580 --> 00:18:50.940 the it is it has apparently been 66 weeks six days and 20 minutes since i worked 00:18:50.940 --> 00:18:55.660 on abel arcade which is a project for him except i worked on it last night didn't 00:18:55.660 --> 00:19:02.780 i so i i can mark this i can mark this oh so here we go reset to now well i 00:19:02.780 --> 00:19:04.140 should reset it to last night right, 00:19:04.760 --> 00:19:09.360 okay i should reset it to last night i did it around midnight last night so here we go here we go. 00:19:09.460 --> 00:19:14.520 I'm setting this set to now, and then I'm moving it back to midnight. 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:21.480 So boom, boom. Okay. So Apple Arcade has now been 10 hours since I last worked on that. 00:19:21.580 --> 00:19:25.660 And it's been eight weeks, five days, and 18 hours since I last worked. 00:19:25.740 --> 00:19:28.080 It did an Apple dream, a new Apple dream. 00:19:29.860 --> 00:19:32.660 And the other one that came up, oh, I have a thing like, 00:19:33.710 --> 00:19:36.610 You know, for those techies out here, you'll appreciate this. 00:19:37.130 --> 00:19:42.230 I've been trying to, abblesmay.com, which I've had forever, is still on network 00:19:42.230 --> 00:19:45.510 solutions as a provider, okay? 00:19:45.770 --> 00:19:46.070 Okay. 00:19:46.370 --> 00:19:53.550 And I want to move it on to DreamHost, where I have everything else that I have for consistency. 00:19:54.150 --> 00:20:03.370 And I want to then add SSL to it. Because at this point, like from some browsers, 00:20:03.390 --> 00:20:07.270 you go to applesmay.com, you get a warning just because it doesn't have SSL on it. 00:20:07.670 --> 00:20:12.650 And yeah, and it makes it easier for me to do that. If I have it with my hosting 00:20:12.650 --> 00:20:14.230 company, I can just hit the button, have it done. 00:20:14.330 --> 00:20:18.950 I'm not, I know there are ways I could do it anyway, but like it becomes like a one click thing. 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:21.990 If I, if I have everything done at my hosting provider. 00:20:23.290 --> 00:20:25.990 And so i've tried to do this a 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:29.850 couple of times and failed because you 00:20:29.850 --> 00:20:32.830 know i mentioned i was having email problems and some things not getting through some 00:20:32.830 --> 00:20:35.530 things disappearing etc one of those things i tried to 00:20:35.530 --> 00:20:38.870 do was have network solutions unlock 00:20:38.870 --> 00:20:42.670 the domain so i could move it and they send you on an authentication thing 00:20:42.670 --> 00:20:45.390 and like sometimes i haven't even been able to get logged in there because 00:20:45.390 --> 00:20:48.370 i don't get the authentication sometimes i've logged in and then 00:20:48.370 --> 00:20:52.070 they're supposed to send me an email and one time i 00:20:52.070 --> 00:20:55.590 i i had i used to have ablesmay.site as 00:20:55.590 --> 00:21:02.210 well okay okay and i decided to test moving the domain using ablesmay.site i 00:21:02.210 --> 00:21:06.810 started the process and they say okay we'll send you a code on your email within 00:21:06.810 --> 00:21:10.530 the next three days which by the way is ridiculous it should be fucking instant 00:21:10.530 --> 00:21:13.170 okay they'll send it to you within that that really. 00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:14.270 Makes no sense yeah. 00:21:14.270 --> 00:21:17.410 So I did that. 00:21:17.850 --> 00:21:21.010 And then I, you know, I'm not going to sit there in front of my computer for 00:21:21.010 --> 00:21:22.510 three days waiting for the email. 00:21:22.590 --> 00:21:25.630 So I went off and did other things and I completely forgot about it. 00:21:25.750 --> 00:21:29.970 When I went back and looked weeks later, they had sent me the code. 00:21:30.610 --> 00:21:36.070 Then a few days later, they had, I got a notice that said, so-and-so is trying 00:21:36.070 --> 00:21:41.710 to move your domain was that you will assume it is unless you click this button to say it's not. 00:21:41.710 --> 00:21:47.170 And then a few days later saying your domain has been successfully transferred. It was not to me. 00:21:48.310 --> 00:21:51.550 Someone stole applesmay.site from me. 00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:58.330 And it is now like, you know, out there. One of those things where you can buy it back if you want. 00:21:58.830 --> 00:22:04.630 Now, I didn't actually use applesmay.site for anything. It was just a redirect to applesmay.com. 00:22:04.710 --> 00:22:08.650 But it made me really nervous about doing it with applesmay.com to make sure 00:22:08.650 --> 00:22:11.490 I was at a time where I was going to be paying attention carefully to my email. 00:22:11.490 --> 00:22:12.570 Right day, blah, blah, blah. 00:22:12.910 --> 00:22:16.730 And make sure nothing like that happened. And the last time I did it, 00:22:16.890 --> 00:22:19.550 I didn't get an email after a couple of days and I was like, 00:22:19.730 --> 00:22:22.130 screw it. And I relocked it and blah, blah, blah. 00:22:22.670 --> 00:22:27.250 And so I haven't tried it again. Anyway, the last, since the last time I tried 00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:29.190 to deal with that 86 weeks. 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:32.870 So eventually i'll i'll look at it again 00:22:32.870 --> 00:22:36.790 i figure at this point like if i'm gonna do it i need to like call them and 00:22:36.790 --> 00:22:42.290 do it through like you know whatever i don't know how i have to do it with a 00:22:42.290 --> 00:22:48.770 person on the line or a chat or something to like i don't know anyway i got 00:22:48.770 --> 00:22:51.470 off on a real tangent there sorry about that yeah. 00:22:51.470 --> 00:22:52.950 That that had nothing to do. 00:22:52.950 --> 00:22:54.450 With my with. 00:22:54.450 --> 00:22:57.830 My with with my with anything I had started talking about. 00:22:57.970 --> 00:23:00.610 Well, I talked about how long it is between times I checked. 00:23:00.770 --> 00:23:03.570 It takes you to review things. 00:23:04.490 --> 00:23:04.930 Yes. 00:23:05.350 --> 00:23:07.790 Yes. Okay. All right. Great. Beautiful. All right. 00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:08.350 Okay. 00:23:08.530 --> 00:23:09.810 So up to your subject. 00:23:10.970 --> 00:23:14.790 Okay. I had two things, both of which are not that long, I presume. 00:23:15.010 --> 00:23:17.890 Of course, you know, poison words whenever I say that. 00:23:19.530 --> 00:23:23.090 But uh number one number 00:23:23.090 --> 00:23:26.030 one is i mentioned on the show a couple weeks 00:23:26.030 --> 00:23:29.190 ago that i my chair 00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:39.290 was having issues yeah okay and so last week it actually just broke completely 00:23:39.290 --> 00:23:45.970 nice like now i i presume like realistically what happened loose screws got 00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:48.790 looser and looser and fell out And then, like, 00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:54.110 you know, then it sort of started coming apart. Like, the back is a thing that happens. 00:23:54.290 --> 00:23:57.490 I mean, you know, that is a thing that happens. 00:23:59.210 --> 00:24:04.950 So, yeah, so I theoretically, I probably could have, like, tried to, 00:24:05.090 --> 00:24:08.710 like, find the screws, screw it back together, blah, blah, blah. 00:24:08.910 --> 00:24:11.270 But I'd been complaining on here about it anyway. 00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:16.330 I, you know, I had complained on the show that it was getting uncomfortable 00:24:16.330 --> 00:24:18.770 that, you know, etc, etc, etc. 00:24:18.910 --> 00:24:21.590 I mean, I was complaining that it was loose as well. But like, 00:24:22.030 --> 00:24:23.210 yeah, I could have tightened that. 00:24:23.350 --> 00:24:27.950 But it was getting uncomfortable and just like starting to look ratty already. 00:24:27.950 --> 00:24:31.050 And it was less than a year old. And I was like, I cheaped out on this chair. 00:24:31.370 --> 00:24:35.350 Let's get the better one. You and I talked about it. You, you looked at Costco 00:24:35.350 --> 00:24:39.150 and we're like, look, this chair looks fine. It's $160 chair on Costco. 00:24:39.310 --> 00:24:39.950 Yeah. Yeah. 00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:44.110 Yeah. And I was ready to order it. 00:24:44.490 --> 00:24:48.430 And my wife was like, well, do you want to like see it in person at first? 00:24:48.670 --> 00:24:52.350 You know, can we go, should we go to Costco? And I like the website. 00:24:52.550 --> 00:24:54.230 You're going to, wait, wait, you're going to go to a store. 00:24:54.570 --> 00:24:55.230 I know. 00:24:55.530 --> 00:24:55.970 Try something. 00:24:56.390 --> 00:25:02.430 I know. And I was like, well, the website doesn't even say they have it in stock at the local store. 00:25:02.570 --> 00:25:07.810 So why would we do that? And she's like, oh, let's go. And so we went. We went in person. 00:25:08.290 --> 00:25:12.990 It turns out they did have it in stock. Okay, great. They did not have a display 00:25:12.990 --> 00:25:15.030 model. So I could not try it. 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:19.010 Oh, yeah. Because they do sometimes have some screwed in so you can sit on it. 00:25:19.090 --> 00:25:20.850 But they will have it in a box. 00:25:21.190 --> 00:25:25.050 Yeah. They just had it in a box. They did not have a display model. 00:25:26.010 --> 00:25:29.130 But then she was like so do you just 00:25:29.130 --> 00:25:34.570 want to get it since we're here and like the if i bought it online it would 00:25:34.570 --> 00:25:39.190 have been like three to four days until it arrived and like it's it's right 00:25:39.190 --> 00:25:48.070 there in front of me i'm like right okay let's buy it so okay i bought i bought the damn chair okay took, 00:25:48.710 --> 00:25:52.630 Well, wait, wait, this is a more important stuff. 00:25:52.830 --> 00:26:01.570 I put the box right next to the box for the arcade cabinet that Alex gave me four to five years ago. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.380 That has not yet been assembled. And so I immediately was like, 00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:11.560 well, I guess this is where it's going to sit for the next five years. 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.920 Because I have to assemble it. 00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:21.640 So nothing's ever going to happen here. 00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:27.520 Now, to be fair, when I set up the whole office last April or May or whenever 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:31.660 it was, I assembled the table. I assembled the chair. 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:37.800 I did the whole thing because it was like a major project I had taken time off 00:26:37.800 --> 00:26:44.520 to get all the new stuff set up but this time I hadn't done any of that but, 00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:52.060 my son Alex came to the rescue I told him that I would pay him to build the chair. 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:58.780 He agreed he actually negotiated a bit there was something else he wanted there 00:26:58.780 --> 00:27:00.400 was something he wanted other than money, 00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:04.260 okay and so i agree i agreed to whatever the 00:27:04.260 --> 00:27:07.120 other thing was i don't even remember what it was but i agreed to it 00:27:07.120 --> 00:27:11.740 and i my conditions were basically he had to assemble the damn chair on his 00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:16.960 own i didn't really have to do anything i i ended up helping at one or two little 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:25.000 spots where like he'd lost a screw and i helped find it or he wanted me to like oh my god well heaven. 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:31.700 Forbid that you could help him find a screw. My God, what the hell has Earth 00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:33.440 come to, for God's sake, Sam? 00:27:33.760 --> 00:27:37.280 I know. It was, and a couple times I held the camera for him because, 00:27:37.360 --> 00:27:38.360 of course, he wanted to video. 00:27:38.820 --> 00:27:42.260 Oh, my God. Wow. 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:49.040 Oh, oh, oh. He is giving me a screenshot of what the deal was for it. 00:27:50.040 --> 00:27:54.660 For the entire duration of the chair construction, I needed to either be the 00:27:54.660 --> 00:27:58.100 camera person or be playing Beat Saber on the Oculus. 00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:01.060 Okay, so what did you choose? 00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:03.100 I alternated. I alternated. 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:03.560 Oh, okay. 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:10.400 All right. And by the time of chair completion, at least 30 minutes of each 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.880 must have been completed unless chair took less than 45 minutes. 00:28:15.100 --> 00:28:17.140 So there you go. I did that. 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:17.580 That's pretty good. 00:28:17.760 --> 00:28:20.640 And I ended up giving them the cash too. as well 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.340 because he built the whole chair he built the 00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:27.080 whole chair he built it efficiently he built it well it's 00:28:27.080 --> 00:28:34.400 all done i am sitting in it right now it is okay what's your my by the way take 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:40.880 on the chair this is the 160 costco chair so okay we had talked about like look 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.560 there there are many chairs that are a lot more than that there are some chairs that are cheaper. 00:28:44.800 --> 00:28:50.700 I was thinking move up my previous chair that didn't even last a year was about 60 or 70 bucks. 00:28:50.840 --> 00:28:56.940 I forget in that, in that range, this one is, was one 60 plus change. 00:28:57.120 --> 00:29:03.140 I think it is clearly sturdier and more comfortable than the previous chair, 00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:05.340 even when the previous chair was brand new. 00:29:05.700 --> 00:29:07.720 Okay. Well, so you made the right call. 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:14.360 Will it last much more than a year? I don't know. we'll find out but certainly 00:29:14.360 --> 00:29:15.820 at the beginning usually you know. 00:29:15.820 --> 00:29:21.580 The great thing uh costco items are are made to be they test them. 00:29:21.580 --> 00:29:26.720 For durability and that kind of stuff the actual brand it's a lazy boy yeah 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:33.520 so it's it's a known brand it's not like kazizzle coup.com whatever no name 00:29:33.520 --> 00:29:38.940 random series of letters like many quote-unquote brands are that are just imported 00:29:38.940 --> 00:29:41.120 you know, Asian stuff from wherever. 00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:46.060 Now this is an actual known brand name. Now, of course, I'm sure it's still 00:29:46.060 --> 00:29:50.640 made in some Asian factory somewhere, but you get the brand name that supposedly 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.240 is doing some quality control, both Lazy Boy and Costco, presumably. 00:29:55.090 --> 00:29:56.530 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:29:57.090 --> 00:29:59.850 Okay, now that's that for that. 00:30:00.250 --> 00:30:07.330 One final thing that I promised we would do for this week is our Patreon stuff, 00:30:07.510 --> 00:30:10.070 which I will mention at the end of the show. 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:12.550 But for the last couple of weeks, I've been saying, you know, 00:30:12.910 --> 00:30:16.370 several people increased their Patreon contributions. 00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:22.650 And I would look up what our official levels were and what they deserve for this. 00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:27.370 So just to review all of our levels which i never do at the end of the show, 00:30:28.330 --> 00:30:31.590 for one dollar a month on patreon we will 00:30:31.590 --> 00:30:36.050 mention you and thank you in the first show we record after the pledge we didn't 00:30:36.050 --> 00:30:41.550 quite make the first show but oops then we have that's the patron level then 00:30:41.550 --> 00:30:46.610 we have the slacker level which is we will mention you and thank you and invite 00:30:46.610 --> 00:30:50.650 you to join the curmudgeon's corner slack. We always say that's at $2 a month. 00:30:51.010 --> 00:30:56.130 At $5 a month, it's everything that I've already mentioned, plus we ring the bell. 00:30:56.570 --> 00:31:06.810 At $10 a month, it's everything I've mentioned previously, plus a postcard signed by the hosts. 00:31:07.910 --> 00:31:08.250 Okay. 00:31:09.570 --> 00:31:13.770 Okay. So, by the way, we do have a new Patreon member, right? 00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:16.030 Yeah, we have several. So let me go through this. 00:31:16.110 --> 00:31:19.090 We have several. Okay. So wait, wait. I got the bill ready. Hold on. 00:31:19.110 --> 00:31:22.070 You got the bill. I'm going to go through the whole list and we'll give each 00:31:22.070 --> 00:31:25.270 person everything they deserve. I have just a minute. 00:31:25.650 --> 00:31:28.130 I'm going to give these bastards everything they deserve. 00:31:28.970 --> 00:31:32.670 Exactly. No, at $20 a month, that's when you get a mug. 00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:38.650 And then nobody has ever done this. But at the $50 a month level, 00:31:38.650 --> 00:31:44.330 we invite you to record a 30 to 90 second audio clip that we will play on the 00:31:44.330 --> 00:31:47.730 show, subject to our censorship, 00:31:48.170 --> 00:31:49.910 if you do something like we don't. 00:31:49.970 --> 00:31:52.290 I mean, I don't know, like a Nazi salute, basically. I mean, 00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:53.150 because otherwise, yeah. 00:31:53.470 --> 00:31:57.730 Yeah, exactly. And so those are the tiers that we have right now. 00:31:58.670 --> 00:32:03.830 And so here is the list. So first of all, oh, and by the way, 00:32:04.090 --> 00:32:08.850 several people out there have mugs who are not patrons because I also, 00:32:09.030 --> 00:32:12.070 for the last few years, I didn't do this at the very beginning of the show. 00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:14.970 We didn't even have Patreon. We didn't have mugs. We didn't have anything. 00:32:15.230 --> 00:32:20.290 But for the last few years, if somebody has guest hosted on the show, I've also given them. 00:32:20.350 --> 00:32:20.990 They got, right. 00:32:21.310 --> 00:32:26.750 Or if we interview them on the show, like either way, they get a mug as a prize for doing that. 00:32:27.310 --> 00:32:30.170 So Pete, for instance, already had a mug. 00:32:31.810 --> 00:32:38.250 Yes, you can bell Pete, sure. But Pete mentioned that the mug is staring at 00:32:38.250 --> 00:32:41.090 him and he feels guilty for not having contributed to us. 00:32:42.450 --> 00:32:45.550 But also, he doesn't like Patreon. 00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:49.590 So he instead wanted to know if there was another way to give us money. 00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:54.210 And what I did was point him at the fact that Election Graphs has a tip jar 00:32:54.210 --> 00:32:57.870 that's just based on PayPal and is a one-time only thing. 00:32:57.870 --> 00:33:01.370 It's not a recurring thing. because for election graphs, I didn't feel right 00:33:01.370 --> 00:33:05.090 doing recurring because the site's only active like a couple of years and then 00:33:05.090 --> 00:33:06.690 it's dormant a couple of years and blah, blah. 00:33:06.790 --> 00:33:10.110 I'd have to turn things on and off and it would be stupid. Anyway, I'm not sure. 00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:13.690 So he donated through PayPal. So thank you very much. 00:33:13.950 --> 00:33:19.690 And since it's not a monthly number, it's hard to determine exactly what he deserves here. 00:33:19.910 --> 00:33:25.010 But mentioning him for sure, Yvonne has done the bell. I will do some bell too. 00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:28.610 There we go. Bells from both of us. 00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:30.010 Bells! 00:33:30.130 --> 00:33:33.550 I figure, Yvonne, that Pete also deserves a card. 00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:35.430 Okay. 00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:40.610 All right. You know, this will be, I still have this. 00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:45.970 This has sat on a shelf for years and years and years, and we have never sent one. 00:33:46.290 --> 00:33:49.030 But we have curmudgeons corner postcards. 00:33:49.250 --> 00:33:52.670 As a matter of fact, oh, you got the postcards, not the business cards. 00:33:52.850 --> 00:33:53.870 Not the business cards. 00:33:54.130 --> 00:33:58.270 A postcard. Okay. Send it. Send it. Send it. 00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:02.690 So what I was going to do, actually, Vaughn, and the next person on the list 00:34:02.690 --> 00:34:07.870 gets this too is i was going to sign it then mail them to you and then you can 00:34:07.870 --> 00:34:12.550 mail them to the people okay all right and then so we can both sign them and we can i. 00:34:12.550 --> 00:34:14.210 I like this plan okay yeah yeah. 00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:18.490 Yeah sure so i i will try to do this soon i'm putting it on my desk so i don't 00:34:18.490 --> 00:34:25.630 forget so anyway pete thank you for your contribution yes bells. 00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:26.890 Bells are ringing. 00:34:26.890 --> 00:34:32.970 And we'll get you a card and then greg increased his his level, 00:34:35.350 --> 00:34:41.950 i'm like trying to hit my bell and missing there we go and so at his new level 00:34:41.950 --> 00:34:48.150 he also gets a bell and a card so there we go and we'll send the card for you 00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:52.190 too bob increased his level No, no, sorry. 00:34:53.050 --> 00:34:54.970 Yeah, I put this in the wrong thing. 00:34:55.870 --> 00:35:01.690 Bob, at his new level, gets just a mention and a bell. No card sword. 00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:01.930 Okay. 00:35:02.270 --> 00:35:06.490 Bob, no card. I know you're broken up about this. 00:35:06.890 --> 00:35:10.990 Yeah, I know. He's right down, my God. He's going to tear down one of the rooms 00:35:10.990 --> 00:35:14.230 in his new house, like right now, because of this. Yes. 00:35:14.870 --> 00:35:19.710 Okay, now next, Ed has joined for the first time. Ah! 00:35:21.370 --> 00:35:25.330 Ed actually already has a mug for two reasons. One. 00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:26.110 He's co-hosted. 00:35:26.310 --> 00:35:29.670 Well, he hosted. He has hosted. So he has a mug from that. 00:35:29.850 --> 00:35:37.530 But also his son-in-law, John, at one point also contributed to our Patreon, 00:35:37.930 --> 00:35:41.310 but asked that his mug be sent to Ed. 00:35:41.310 --> 00:35:42.730 Ah, okay. Okay. 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:48.530 But Ed, his current level gets a mention and a bell. 00:35:48.810 --> 00:35:56.070 Yeah. But he has said, he told us on the curmudgeon's corner slack that his wife has stolen his mug. 00:35:56.790 --> 00:35:58.590 And he would like a mug of his own. 00:35:58.870 --> 00:35:59.010 Oh! 00:35:59.970 --> 00:36:07.730 And also, specifically, he requested that we give him a version of the mug similar 00:36:07.730 --> 00:36:11.770 to the I Hate Curmudgeon's Corner mug that we once gave my son Alex. 00:36:13.610 --> 00:36:18.830 I like this idea. It's great. Good, good. Yes. Yes, yes. 00:36:18.910 --> 00:36:24.170 So I will try to make that happen. I believe Alex has said that I should not 00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:25.690 send one that's actually identical 00:36:25.690 --> 00:36:30.030 to his mug. because that was a unique one-off, but I will do something. 00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:31.130 Okay. 00:36:31.370 --> 00:36:39.350 I'll do something along those lines. And then we have Nick also is a brand new member. 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:45.030 And I mentioned, you know, you gave him extra. At his level, 00:36:45.110 --> 00:36:46.890 he's only supposed to be mentioned. No bell. 00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:51.710 You know, but Nick, I will bell you too. 00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:55.710 There you go. Yes, yes, we're getting bell, bell, bell, bell, bell. 00:36:55.710 --> 00:37:00.690 You know, Nick actually, to get back to what I mentioned last week about like 00:37:00.690 --> 00:37:06.190 email being a slog, Nick actually joined back in August and I didn't notice 00:37:06.190 --> 00:37:10.270 until I went looking at Patreon to find out all this information today. 00:37:10.550 --> 00:37:16.890 So I apologize, Nick, for not noticing for months and months and months that 00:37:16.890 --> 00:37:23.430 we had a new patron because I just have not slogged through the email to find that. 00:37:23.430 --> 00:37:31.310 And they did send an email telling me about you, but I didn't notice until now. So I feel bad. 00:37:31.770 --> 00:37:36.890 Anyway, Nick has, we've mentioned Nick and he has been invited to the Comendance Core Slack. 00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:41.710 And then finally, someone else did something that I didn't even know was possible. 00:37:41.910 --> 00:37:48.270 They joined our Patreon, but without any donation at all. They left it at a zero cash level. 00:37:48.790 --> 00:37:52.350 And that would be my mom who joined in August. 00:37:52.350 --> 00:37:58.090 Alright but okay but I'll still mention her I'll still mention her in theory 00:37:58.090 --> 00:38:04.530 according to the levels we set up I'll get one ring I'll. 00:38:04.530 --> 00:38:05.390 Get you one. 00:38:07.050 --> 00:38:11.030 There you go according to our Patreon levels at one dollar you're only supposed 00:38:11.030 --> 00:38:15.270 to be mentioned and at zero nothing but you know hey it's my mom it's your mom 00:38:15.270 --> 00:38:17.830 here's the bell here I'll. 00:38:17.830 --> 00:38:18.750 Do one ping. 00:38:20.510 --> 00:38:26.090 Okay there you go And that, I believe, is it. 00:38:26.290 --> 00:38:31.210 If anybody out there has actually increased their Patreon or joined for the 00:38:31.210 --> 00:38:35.850 first time that I did not notice, please let me know. This also changes my joke. 00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:38.950 For years, I've said I make 15 bucks a month off the Patreon. 00:38:39.310 --> 00:38:42.790 We are now up to $26.80 a month. 00:38:46.770 --> 00:38:50.870 And of course that split between yvonne and i technically although i've i've 00:38:50.870 --> 00:38:58.690 stopped keeping track i i i should start again but i apologize yvonne that's 00:38:58.690 --> 00:39:01.870 okay we got the uh i mean we are. 00:39:01.870 --> 00:39:03.470 Incurring a few more expenses but. 00:39:03.470 --> 00:39:09.130 The reality is we are spending more than 26 and 80 cents a month on the podcast anyway. 00:39:09.470 --> 00:39:12.930 So whatever, but you know, Hey, that's it. 00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:18.350 And if anybody does want to join it, that $50 a month level or higher to get 00:39:18.350 --> 00:39:21.170 an audio clip on the show, you know, feel free, you know? 00:39:24.990 --> 00:39:28.830 Okay. And that is more than enough of that. 00:39:28.970 --> 00:39:33.790 We will now take a break and which, which break am I supposed to play? 00:39:34.090 --> 00:39:36.350 I have my little notes here. Break 8! 00:39:37.290 --> 00:39:42.510 Which is this one. Okay, we're going to take a break and we will be back and 00:39:42.510 --> 00:39:46.830 then we'll start talking the actual news. Back after this. 00:39:46.970 --> 00:39:47.330 News! 00:39:47.790 --> 00:39:48.390 News. 00:39:49.170 --> 00:39:49.770 News! 00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:55.710 Alex and the. 00:40:27.790 --> 00:40:29.290 Okay, we are back. 00:40:29.630 --> 00:40:34.090 So I'm going to, I'm going to, by the way, I think You were talking about the 00:40:34.090 --> 00:40:37.390 domains just before we go into the heavy subjects. 00:40:37.710 --> 00:40:40.730 I think I'm going to buy the domain. I hate Alex Emzala. 00:40:45.190 --> 00:40:45.710 Okay. 00:40:45.930 --> 00:40:49.650 I'm going to link it to that. 00:40:50.170 --> 00:40:53.770 There you go. I hate AlexEmzala.com. Excellent. 00:40:55.270 --> 00:40:58.450 I've actually been buying more domains lately because 00:40:58.450 --> 00:41:02.270 I've had a few ideas for things I want to do and 00:41:02.270 --> 00:41:04.970 i've bought domains for them none of them 00:41:04.970 --> 00:41:07.830 are ready to like launch or do anything i mean we've met i 00:41:07.830 --> 00:41:11.130 mentioned on the show this apple fnaf game that alec 00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:16.070 oh yeah yeah yeah so i bought i bought a domain for that there's nothing there 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:21.750 yet like it's it's just the hosting company's placeholder i have there's nothing 00:41:21.750 --> 00:41:27.330 there at all but like i have that i have another project that I've just started 00:41:27.330 --> 00:41:29.810 working on that I bought a domain for. 00:41:30.850 --> 00:41:36.890 I've got some placeholder text up there, but I'm not ready to share quite yet. You know, so... 00:41:38.890 --> 00:41:43.770 Anyway, I've been like at this point, there's some I got for my wife. 00:41:44.210 --> 00:41:49.390 I've I've bought like some some name domains for like, you know, 00:41:49.490 --> 00:41:52.650 for my daughter and myself that aren't used for anything yet as well. 00:41:52.790 --> 00:41:55.290 I don't know. Whenever I've thought of something, I've been like, 00:41:55.410 --> 00:41:57.630 OK, I'll go. It's 10 bucks a year. 00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:01.950 I can pay 10 bucks a year for random idea domain. 00:42:02.490 --> 00:42:07.090 And if I never do anything with it. Oh, well, if I do something with it. 00:42:07.090 --> 00:42:09.810 Yeah. 10 bucks a year is fine. I mean, you know, if you were telling me it's 00:42:09.810 --> 00:42:12.450 like, you know, you know, a lot more than that, then yeah, no, 00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:15.130 but 10 bucks a year. Yeah, whatever. I mean, you know, who knows? 00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:18.070 Maybe you pick the domain that's the jackpot. 00:42:18.770 --> 00:42:22.130 Yeah, exactly. Now, and there are two ways to go jackpot, right? 00:42:22.290 --> 00:42:25.610 One is that you actually do something with the domain yourself and the other. 00:42:25.950 --> 00:42:26.350 Somebody needs it. 00:42:26.590 --> 00:42:27.790 Somebody needs it. 00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:30.770 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. 00:42:31.350 --> 00:42:37.930 Yeah. And it's like, no, I had it first. Pay me $8 billion and I'll give it to you. 00:42:38.430 --> 00:42:43.670 I love that number. Eight billion. Yes. Very, very good and specific. Yes. 00:42:44.650 --> 00:42:50.250 Yes. So, you know, at some point I should go through and at least put a placeholder 00:42:50.250 --> 00:42:51.870 page on every domain I have. 00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:54.150 But I haven't done that. So. 00:42:54.430 --> 00:42:54.510 No. 00:42:54.970 --> 00:43:00.690 Okay, Yvonne. All right. News. You go first. Obviously, this was, 00:43:00.910 --> 00:43:02.690 as I said at the beginning. 00:43:04.470 --> 00:43:09.550 I mean. yeah i think the thing is that there's a lot of things in here. 00:43:09.550 --> 00:43:12.730 And uh i don't know if each one wait 00:43:12.730 --> 00:43:15.870 this is exactly the point like 00:43:15.870 --> 00:43:18.730 this is this is this whole 00:43:18.730 --> 00:43:21.570 shock and awe thing that there is 00:43:21.570 --> 00:43:24.950 and and this was a a feature of 00:43:24.950 --> 00:43:27.970 the first trump administration first that there's 00:43:27.970 --> 00:43:32.330 so much random them shit every single 00:43:32.330 --> 00:43:35.350 day practically that it's impossible to 00:43:35.350 --> 00:43:38.170 keep track of it all and it all sort of washes over you this is 00:43:38.170 --> 00:43:41.470 steve bannon's flood the zone of shit with shit but 00:43:41.470 --> 00:43:47.610 and in this case some of it is just verbal posturing and some of it now is actual 00:43:47.610 --> 00:43:51.010 executive orders and actual things happening and blah blah blah and it's all 00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:56.110 mixed together but there's so many things any one of which you could potentially 00:43:56.110 --> 00:44:00.950 get outraged about but there's so much what the thing is. 00:44:00.950 --> 00:44:05.790 That that's what they're trying to do right i mean they're trying to get us 00:44:05.790 --> 00:44:13.950 to be just totally outraged that that is the that is the point of this you know so. 00:44:13.950 --> 00:44:20.070 Well but which is on the one hand they want you the flip side they want you 00:44:20.070 --> 00:44:23.650 outraged and bubbling and incoherent and oh, look at there being evil. 00:44:23.830 --> 00:44:27.190 But the opposite of that is if you just ignore it and be like, 00:44:27.310 --> 00:44:32.970 oh, whatever, then you're just letting the bad stuff happen. 00:44:34.190 --> 00:44:37.070 Like letting the butt stuff happen like letting it happen 00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:40.130 like that like we have any choice right but exactly because 00:44:40.130 --> 00:44:44.410 there you know because there are things that stuff can be done about there are 00:44:44.410 --> 00:44:50.710 things that stuff can't be done can't you can't okay so like you know for example 00:44:50.710 --> 00:44:56.210 this whole thing with the border and a whole bunch of the stuff that he's announced 00:44:56.210 --> 00:44:59.410 i mean like he shut down CBP1, 00:44:59.410 --> 00:45:05.250 the app that was put in place for asylum applications, 00:45:05.570 --> 00:45:08.550 which, by the way, just only makes this entire thing harder. 00:45:08.830 --> 00:45:12.470 This is the thing about this. These are counterproductive. 00:45:12.790 --> 00:45:18.750 It was actually taking an illegal motive, like people crossing the border without 00:45:18.750 --> 00:45:22.250 authorization and then applying for asylum, which actually technically is legal, actually. 00:45:22.390 --> 00:45:26.530 I should correct myself like what applying for asylum is legal in that. 00:45:26.530 --> 00:45:32.030 Sense correct you get to the border post and and you apply and you apply for asylum yeah but. 00:45:32.030 --> 00:45:33.950 In this case with the app it was 00:45:33.950 --> 00:45:39.890 completely like regularizing it making it fully 100 like legal you would. 00:45:39.890 --> 00:45:42.210 Show up at a border crossing. 00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:43.270 With an appointment. 00:45:43.270 --> 00:45:49.670 Exactly instead of like you know it made it that it actually stopped reduce 00:45:49.670 --> 00:45:56.110 the number of illegal border crossings okay right by by giving people an avenue 00:45:56.110 --> 00:46:00.270 to not have to do that and many of those were rejected supporting. 00:46:00.270 --> 00:46:04.370 A legal mechanism of immigration to be clear asylum is legal. 00:46:04.370 --> 00:46:09.670 Exactly and many of those wired by international law yeah and and many of those 00:46:09.670 --> 00:46:14.290 were rejected and right people were sent back it's not like it was some automatic 00:46:14.290 --> 00:46:17.670 thing It just gave them a process to do that. 00:46:18.330 --> 00:46:22.410 So going and doing that is just, you know, idiotic. 00:46:22.650 --> 00:46:28.110 It really actually, but well, idiotic from the standpoint of you want to tackle 00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:29.430 the immigration problem. 00:46:29.630 --> 00:46:33.730 Because the reality is that as everything that these guys do. 00:46:34.740 --> 00:46:42.100 It's all straw man. Most of it. I mean, 90% of it, they make up straw man to attack. 00:46:43.060 --> 00:46:46.600 Or they claim victory when even they haven't done anything. 00:46:48.060 --> 00:46:53.120 So it's like, first thing this week, ah, the deportation flights are finally starting. 00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:58.860 The Biden administration has been doing deportation flights. 00:46:59.100 --> 00:47:06.480 And not just that they've been doing it. They amped up that number over the last few years. 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.660 And they're claiming, oh, you see, now we started them. 00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:16.640 So it's claiming victory for something that already happened, 00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:19.100 which is standard operating procedure. 00:47:19.300 --> 00:47:27.560 I mean, it's totally what we expect from these guys, which is why, I don't know, man. 00:47:27.560 --> 00:47:33.100 And, I mean, so much of this stuff is, is there stuff that is really hurting 00:47:33.100 --> 00:47:35.480 people? Of course there is. 00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:35.920 Yeah. 00:47:36.200 --> 00:47:42.640 You know, I mean, you had this entire thing where all these career people in 00:47:42.640 --> 00:47:45.840 government all of a sudden just got fired. 00:47:46.620 --> 00:47:52.300 Yeah. High-level career people who are, you know, I'm sure low-level career 00:47:52.300 --> 00:47:53.440 people are getting fired too. 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.320 But they the one was they they are dismissing all of the anybody involved in 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.140 DEI in any way, shape or form is being dismissed, but also a variety of high 00:48:04.140 --> 00:48:06.200 level people at various organizations. 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.480 And in last night, a whole bunch of inspector generals. 00:48:10.620 --> 00:48:13.040 And by the way, a lot of those are going to wind up in the courts, 00:48:14.040 --> 00:48:18.620 you know, and by the way, they'll probably lose, which is the other thing, 00:48:18.700 --> 00:48:23.960 you know. But he wants to do it anyway, because that's the impact that he wants to do. 00:48:24.860 --> 00:48:30.280 Well, there are a lot of things, and some of these we may talk about in more 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:31.320 detail, some of them we won't. 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.160 But the other is the birthright citizenship executive order, 00:48:35.160 --> 00:48:38.640 which went to court and was suspended instantaneously. 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:40.520 But that was the expectation. 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:46.440 They want to get that out into discussion. They want to force the legal issue. 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.400 They want to get it to SCOTUS. 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:56.200 You know, so it's not like they expected that to actually stick immediately. 00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:59.600 In many cases, they are they want the lawsuit. 00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:05.440 Yeah, so I mean, the thing is that. 00:49:07.140 --> 00:49:12.220 Well, let's talk about why people voted for him, right? Okay. 00:49:12.780 --> 00:49:13.300 Okay. 00:49:13.580 --> 00:49:15.020 How's the price of eggs doing, Sam? 00:49:15.560 --> 00:49:16.780 I've heard it's up. 00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:20.540 Yes, it's way up. As a matter of fact, it's at a record. 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.440 Well, and I've heard that part of this was... 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:25.780 Bird flu. 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:31.000 Bird flu. But also, by the way, all bulletins from CDC have been stopped. 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.860 So we don't know anything new about bird flu, other than it was growing rapidly. 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.780 As of the last week of the Biden presidency. 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.300 Well, if you don't track it. 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.340 You know, we have no idea. 00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:46.760 It's not happening. If you don't track it, it's not happening. Right. So, so yeah. 00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:55.920 So you've got that. I mean, it's like, you know, look, he declassified the JFK assassination files. 00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:01.380 Well, he made an order to do so. The agency in charge has some amount of time 00:50:01.380 --> 00:50:03.320 to come up with a plan and then to do it. 00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:07.900 But, and by the way, This is the remaining like small portion, 00:50:08.100 --> 00:50:13.120 like 97%, I believe is the number of these files were already released in the past. 00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:19.180 There's a little tiny one or two, 3% that were still being held back. 00:50:19.180 --> 00:50:21.740 So he'll be releasing the remainder of those. 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.300 You know, and by the way. 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:31.740 Judging, judging from previous releases, that isn't so much bombshell new revelations 00:50:31.740 --> 00:50:34.120 about those assassinations that's in those three. 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.880 Well, we don't know what's in the 3%, obviously. But from previous releases, 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.740 it hasn't been big new revelations. 00:50:40.940 --> 00:50:45.700 It's just been private citizens whose names were redacted have died. 00:50:45.980 --> 00:50:48.320 And so now it can be released without the redaction. 00:50:49.940 --> 00:50:53.420 Yeah, but it's just, I don't know, man. 00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:59.800 Look, what do we gain right now by... 00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:04.420 Going through a lot of this look these guys are already 00:51:04.420 --> 00:51:07.560 starting to fight against each 00:51:07.560 --> 00:51:17.280 other um i mean in in like open warfare you know doge already started as as 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:24.220 quickly as doge came together doge is hemorrhaging people as quickly as it got 00:51:24.220 --> 00:51:26.280 put together all right from. 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.960 Recent reporting in the last few days reducing the scope of what it's looking at as well. 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:37.000 Right. Because already, you know, it's just, you know, they basically got told 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.500 you, you fuckers are idiots. 00:51:38.740 --> 00:51:41.620 You can't do what the fuck you're doing. You're out of your minds. 00:51:43.080 --> 00:51:49.640 I honestly look, what is the, if all of this high level noise that does impact 00:51:49.640 --> 00:51:54.240 certain individuals, a number of people badly, it's like the whole trans thing, right? 00:51:54.580 --> 00:51:59.100 Look, these people have made Trans people, the evil scourge of the earth. 00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:03.100 They're banning, they want to ban them as being athletes. And then, 00:52:03.180 --> 00:52:05.560 you know, there was a recent data that's showing, okay, great. 00:52:05.700 --> 00:52:10.220 How many athletes are we talking about in the NCAA that among the thousands, 00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:14.540 tens of thousands that are, that are really impacted by all of this horse shit 00:52:14.540 --> 00:52:17.240 they're talking about? You want to know the number? Take a guess. 00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:22.040 I forget. It's like, it's like 40 or something out of the entire tens of thousands. 00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:24.300 10. 10. 10. 00:52:24.740 --> 00:52:25.160 Yes. 00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:32.640 10. They've literally, you know, taken to creating this entire fucking straw 00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:37.040 man of vilifying this evil scourge for ten fucking people! 00:52:38.550 --> 00:52:43.150 But also, like you mentioned, like things they're trying to do, 00:52:43.250 --> 00:52:44.570 they're already taking action. 00:52:44.570 --> 00:52:47.410 But they're using, my point is that they're using this in order to, 00:52:47.590 --> 00:52:49.130 what is it that they really want to do? 00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:56.150 Look, the Republicans are, this is our moment for more tax cuts. 00:52:56.510 --> 00:53:01.770 This is our moment to, to really, you know, cut Medicaid. 00:53:02.390 --> 00:53:09.930 This is our moment to really, you know, you know, eliminate all this regulation that we hate. Okay. 00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:14.930 You know, this is, this is what they're really, you know, what, 00:53:14.990 --> 00:53:20.490 what, what is the, what is really the, the, the main crux of what we're trying 00:53:20.490 --> 00:53:24.030 to do and using the smokescreen at the top for this. 00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:28.070 I'm going to tell you, you know, one thing about immigration and all the the 00:53:28.070 --> 00:53:29.270 shit that they're doing for show, 00:53:29.410 --> 00:53:35.890 because, you know, we already had this idiotic fight already about this where 00:53:35.890 --> 00:53:42.170 a couple of weeks ago that has started a big crack between Elon Musk and his 00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:46.990 ilk and the the the other, you know, the MAGA people. 00:53:46.990 --> 00:53:52.070 I mean, Steve Bannon has basically said that, you know, fuck Elon Musk, 00:53:52.150 --> 00:53:54.830 because Elon Musk is pro-immigration. 00:53:55.850 --> 00:53:59.490 And, you know, he has basically said, you know, fuck you. 00:54:00.390 --> 00:54:04.510 And so because, you know, now he's come out that he's pro-immigration. 00:54:05.310 --> 00:54:11.050 And by the way, I guarantee you one thing, that Elon Musk will convince Trump 00:54:11.050 --> 00:54:16.830 not to cut anything related to his companies that will hurt him. 00:54:17.570 --> 00:54:22.730 Specifically, all these, you know, all these incentives for electric cars. 00:54:23.410 --> 00:54:32.330 This is just, you know, there is, I mean, no way in all hell that that guy will 00:54:32.330 --> 00:54:37.330 go and torpedo his fucking biggest investment by doing that. 00:54:37.450 --> 00:54:41.050 Well, specifically on that, Elon himself has been one of the biggest advocates 00:54:41.050 --> 00:54:42.450 for getting rid of the subsidies. 00:54:42.810 --> 00:54:46.670 Yeah, that's right. But the reality is that there is, again, 00:54:47.110 --> 00:54:53.550 there is the, hey, I am for, you know, controlling the border and getting rid 00:54:53.550 --> 00:54:54.790 of all these fucking people. 00:54:54.930 --> 00:54:57.990 Then when you ask them, well, but not my immigrants. 00:55:02.290 --> 00:55:05.230 So this is the whole thing where he's been talking about, yeah, 00:55:05.330 --> 00:55:09.290 yeah, yeah, fuck the incentives, fuck the incentives, rah, rah, rah, until he's CFO. 00:55:09.290 --> 00:55:12.150 I'm sure his CFOs are already grabbed by the ear and said, listen, 00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:15.690 motherfucker, we're not, we can't afford, you know, we're, we're spending, 00:55:15.950 --> 00:55:18.710 we have capital outlays next year of $15 billion. 00:55:19.310 --> 00:55:24.830 Okay. All right. We, our cashflow is $15 billion. You can't take 10 billion 00:55:24.830 --> 00:55:26.470 out of our cashflow. You lunatic. 00:55:28.430 --> 00:55:33.570 Yes. What, what, what he's of course said is that it will hurt the other car companies more. So. 00:55:34.010 --> 00:55:37.090 No, it won't. That's the problem. No, it won't. 00:55:38.050 --> 00:55:43.750 Anyway that's I'm just saying no that's what he says but this is but again Sam 00:55:43.750 --> 00:55:50.150 what they say versus what they do do okay fuck the immigrants blah blah blah 00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:52.770 fuck the immigrants no no no don't touch my immigrants, 00:55:54.410 --> 00:56:00.070 I mean Trump himself oh yeah we got all these immigrants at my clubs no we're not getting rid of those, 00:56:01.950 --> 00:56:12.150 right Jesus Christ and by the way I keep being just stunned by the lack of so many people still at, 00:56:12.930 --> 00:56:18.830 at national levels that still don't get that the winning strategy that they 00:56:18.830 --> 00:56:22.330 really, really had. It's all this homophobia. 00:56:22.910 --> 00:56:25.190 That was the number one thing that they did. 00:56:25.890 --> 00:56:31.090 It really staggers me. By the way, why do you think they keep saying it? 00:56:31.510 --> 00:56:37.950 Why do you think you got people arguing about bathrooms in the Capitol? 00:56:38.730 --> 00:56:39.930 All of this shit. 00:56:40.150 --> 00:56:41.810 Because unfortunately it works. 00:56:41.810 --> 00:56:45.130 Yes well i right they know 00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:52.010 it works and how many how many people that are liberal that are blind to the 00:56:52.010 --> 00:56:56.590 fucking fact because because okay you're like thinking well it's inconceivable 00:56:56.590 --> 00:57:04.710 it could be it could be that no it is you idiots number one thing that cuts across every group, 00:57:05.690 --> 00:57:07.490 is that transphobia? 00:57:07.970 --> 00:57:14.970 Number one. The key elements were that and general homophobia as well. 00:57:15.310 --> 00:57:17.550 Trans specifically, but general homophobia. 00:57:18.630 --> 00:57:27.950 And then the anti-immigration stuff was cutting across, and then finally the thing is. 00:57:27.950 --> 00:57:29.250 The thing is that. 00:57:30.450 --> 00:57:37.610 One cuts The combination is important of those three things because each of 00:57:37.610 --> 00:57:39.130 them get slightly different slices of beef. 00:57:39.170 --> 00:57:43.350 But just anti-immigrant wouldn't have done it, is my point. 00:57:44.050 --> 00:57:48.550 And by the way, you could have done it just anti-gay and transphobia and not 00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:50.590 anti-immigrant, and that would have done it too. 00:57:51.150 --> 00:57:53.070 Does that add to it? Yes. 00:57:53.330 --> 00:57:56.170 But I'm telling you right now. I'm not sure. I don't think any one of those things will work. 00:57:56.170 --> 00:57:58.730 I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. Let me tell you why. 00:57:58.930 --> 00:58:00.370 No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. 00:58:00.490 --> 00:58:02.990 Let me tell you why. Because the anti-immigrant thing has been there, 00:58:03.070 --> 00:58:05.890 and that had never peeled off as many Hispanics as they did this time. 00:58:07.490 --> 00:58:12.010 And the way that they got them was with that. Okay? 00:58:12.510 --> 00:58:17.710 And that's what people don't get. Why did Hispanic support rise so much from the other times? 00:58:17.910 --> 00:58:21.430 Because the anti-immigrant stuff was there. But the anti-immigrant stuff maybe 00:58:21.430 --> 00:58:26.230 got you 20%, 30%, you know, of that. Didn't get you 45%. Okay? 00:58:27.730 --> 00:58:36.910 It's, you know, that's the thing. It's that huge gain is all based on that. 00:58:36.910 --> 00:58:40.090 And when people finally get their head out of their ass about it, 00:58:40.190 --> 00:58:43.550 maybe they'll understand why the fuck that was so effective. 00:58:43.790 --> 00:58:47.210 Well, I mean, I don't know that this is fruitful, 00:58:47.210 --> 00:58:52.590 but I think we're in the same situation as 2016, where it was so damn close 00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:58.810 in the end that any one of dozens of factors could have made it go the other way. And I think. 00:58:58.990 --> 00:59:03.910 But it's just that was a decisive one. You know, the thing is that I have been 00:59:03.910 --> 00:59:07.150 spending so much time talking to people recently, but I've been traveling that 00:59:07.150 --> 00:59:10.130 much and seeing the entire attitude about this around. 00:59:10.810 --> 00:59:17.950 And I realize how much people like really missed how that issue was so potent to people. 00:59:18.550 --> 00:59:21.170 When I keep hearing it mentioned over and over again. 00:59:21.970 --> 00:59:26.670 Like when you buy Hispanics. Okay. Buy Hispanics. 00:59:26.870 --> 00:59:32.810 I hear you buy Hispanics. When you look at the overall polling across everybody, 00:59:32.810 --> 00:59:38.210 it was one of the top three, but it wasn't the overwhelming one. 00:59:39.310 --> 00:59:45.510 But Sam, it goes back to, you know what, the Republicans for... 00:59:46.590 --> 00:59:54.150 Going back to H.W. Bush, have been so good at finding what the issue is that 00:59:54.150 --> 00:59:59.270 people, maybe they won't admit, but that they do have a prejudice against. 01:00:00.010 --> 01:00:04.610 Okay. And maybe, you know, and I'm not saying that not all of them will admit, 01:00:04.870 --> 01:00:08.430 but a significant portion of them, they know that underlying, 01:00:08.710 --> 01:00:11.130 even if they say, oh, yeah, we're for this, right? 01:00:11.570 --> 01:00:12.870 Even if they say it's eggs. 01:00:13.730 --> 01:00:18.210 Exactly. That's right. that that will, that underneath gets them. 01:00:18.410 --> 01:00:23.370 It's the whole, you know, how they used that rate, that, that, 01:00:23.450 --> 01:00:25.190 the racism. Okay. All right. 01:00:25.470 --> 01:00:30.490 I guess black specifically that, because that was the primary driver that, 01:00:30.670 --> 01:00:34.130 that the Republicans used to use for an extremely long time. 01:00:34.410 --> 01:00:38.910 Okay. To get the white vote to be so solid for them. Okay. 01:00:39.310 --> 01:00:42.150 It's that underlying racism. Okay. All right. 01:00:42.390 --> 01:00:48.170 That is there and they know that people would sit at a dinner table and whatever 01:00:48.170 --> 01:00:53.210 and they wouldn't admit it but these people knew that that was latent and it's 01:00:53.210 --> 01:01:00.070 the same thing with this these guys have been the masters at exploiting latent prejudice, 01:01:01.730 --> 01:01:12.550 this is their fucking winning card every time and we keep underestimating it. 01:01:13.370 --> 01:01:18.170 Well and underestimating the amount of that that exists in society too. 01:01:18.170 --> 01:01:21.590 Correct yes we keep that's exactly 01:01:21.590 --> 01:01:24.930 we keep underestimating how much there is in society nah 01:01:24.930 --> 01:01:30.870 come on how many people really hate all the gay trans people a lot more than 01:01:30.870 --> 01:01:36.690 we that we think damn it that's the answer by the way african-americans kept 01:01:36.690 --> 01:01:43.370 telling this to us for 30 40 for 30 years they kept telling this to us for 30 fucking years, okay? 01:01:43.810 --> 01:01:47.750 And we were like, nah, come on. It can't be that bad for, you know, 01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:50.210 I'll say I stopped saying that a long time ago. 01:01:50.350 --> 01:01:51.590 But for a period of time, I was 01:01:51.590 --> 01:01:55.170 like, oh, come on. We've made a lot of progress. It's not that bad still. 01:01:55.350 --> 01:01:58.490 I mean, it's we've gotten better. It's still not. It's not that bad. No, no, come on. 01:01:58.710 --> 01:02:01.630 And I'm like, I realized, no, they're fucking right. 100% right. 01:02:03.450 --> 01:02:05.690 Well, listen, the DEI shit. 01:02:06.850 --> 01:02:07.210 Yeah. 01:02:08.150 --> 01:02:12.650 The fucking DEI shit, okay? I mean, that's another one that's like, 01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:16.430 you know, that's another, you know, racial card right there. 01:02:16.510 --> 01:02:20.210 You know, you can buy the transphobia, the DEI, the bot. 01:02:20.590 --> 01:02:24.970 I mean, it's all one fucking hate package. 01:02:26.670 --> 01:02:28.510 You know, let me tell you. 01:02:29.770 --> 01:02:33.810 I don't know what the right answer to that, but my point about this, 01:02:33.970 --> 01:02:37.430 going back to what's been going on this week, is that this is where they're focused on. 01:02:37.790 --> 01:02:43.170 This is what they're focused on, and they've been focused on at the high level, at fanning that flame. 01:02:43.330 --> 01:02:47.310 Well, underneath, you've got these guys in Congress that are planning on these 01:02:47.310 --> 01:02:51.250 massive regulatory cutbacks and tax hikes. 01:02:51.250 --> 01:02:57.370 Trump is saying that he declared an energy emergency, which sounds to me also 01:02:57.370 --> 01:03:02.010 like he also declared infrastructure weak many times in the past. 01:03:02.430 --> 01:03:10.010 I'm not sure what energy emergency he is talking about because production for energy in the U.S. 01:03:10.070 --> 01:03:13.370 Is at an all-time high of all sorts. 01:03:13.370 --> 01:03:16.870 Wait, wait, wait. I want to answer that question because he actually specifically 01:03:16.870 --> 01:03:20.450 tied that to his AI initiative as well. 01:03:20.850 --> 01:03:26.510 Because he said in order to build out all the AI stuff he wants to build and support- No. 01:03:26.530 --> 01:03:27.290 You need more energy. 01:03:27.650 --> 01:03:32.370 You need more energy. You need like 50% more energy than the all-time highs 01:03:32.370 --> 01:03:35.570 we have right now. So it's not that we're not at an all-time high. 01:03:35.750 --> 01:03:41.750 It's that to build out all of this AI stuff, we need to like double the energy. 01:03:41.750 --> 01:03:44.830 That's true. And they're going to go to Texas. And here's the one thing. 01:03:44.930 --> 01:03:49.450 In Texas, the number one fastest growing energy has been clean energy. 01:03:50.390 --> 01:03:54.170 Wind, solar, anything that is clean energy. You want to know why? 01:03:54.290 --> 01:03:57.770 But wait, isn't he outlawing that? Didn't he say no more windmills? 01:03:58.330 --> 01:04:00.050 I don't think there was an executive order. 01:04:00.370 --> 01:04:06.290 I don't think he can outlaw windmills. However, the reason is it doesn't matter about outlawing it. 01:04:06.390 --> 01:04:09.150 It's cheaper is the whole point. 01:04:09.270 --> 01:04:12.410 That's the reason. Listen, Texas is a deregulated energy market, 01:04:12.410 --> 01:04:17.070 and all the clean energy sources are cheaper than all the other ones, 01:04:17.130 --> 01:04:22.870 which is why they had been on a tear growing like crazy. 01:04:23.130 --> 01:04:27.270 And then the Texas government all of a sudden realized, oh, shit, 01:04:27.390 --> 01:04:30.530 they're growing so fast. Maybe we need to stop them. 01:04:31.310 --> 01:04:36.910 Because, and everybody's like, but wait, it's meeting our energy needs and it's 01:04:36.910 --> 01:04:39.370 cheaper. What the fuck is your problem? 01:04:39.610 --> 01:04:42.050 So wait, Yvonne, you've got this wrong. 01:04:42.510 --> 01:04:43.850 Okay, I got this wrong. 01:04:43.850 --> 01:04:50.870 The purpose of energy policy is not cheap energy for the population to support things. 01:04:51.110 --> 01:05:00.290 It is to make sure the stock prices of the oil companies and other fossil fuel companies go up. 01:05:00.290 --> 01:05:07.290 This is where i get confused it has nothing to do with energy with actual energy it has everything to. 01:05:07.290 --> 01:05:08.490 Do with exxon. 01:05:08.490 --> 01:05:14.910 That's this is where i always get confused i know i i always i i lose the plot 01:05:14.910 --> 01:05:20.310 i get i got lost yeah okay well that that explains that okay yes now. 01:05:20.310 --> 01:05:26.510 Of course all these companies could have pivoted to just being general energy 01:05:26.510 --> 01:05:28.610 companies decades ago and they decided. 01:05:28.610 --> 01:05:31.430 Not to. A number of them are to a certain extent. 01:05:31.670 --> 01:05:35.890 To a certain degree. There was apparently in the 1980s like several of the big 01:05:35.890 --> 01:05:37.810 ones made big moves in that direction 01:05:37.810 --> 01:05:41.470 and then decided it wasn't cost effective and way curtailed that. 01:05:41.590 --> 01:05:45.770 But some are now, and even like one of the things I was just seeing like right 01:05:45.770 --> 01:05:55.630 now that there is this effort in Europe more specifically about e-fuels which are okay, these are, 01:05:56.870 --> 01:06:07.470 e-fuels is these are basically something that is a clean liquid fuel to replace gasoline. 01:06:07.790 --> 01:06:10.990 Cleaner. As long as it's carbon-based, it's not clean. 01:06:11.290 --> 01:06:14.610 It's not totally carbon-based. It basically, 01:06:15.390 --> 01:06:21.190 it's, okay, so are made by, e-fuels are made by combining renewable electricity, 01:06:21.390 --> 01:06:24.390 water, and carbon when electricity is sourced from excess renewable energy, 01:06:24.390 --> 01:06:26.730 and the carbon comes from waste CO2. 01:06:26.730 --> 01:06:39.350 So it is something that definitely reduces the carbon output of existing gasoline-burning vehicles by a lot. 01:06:39.510 --> 01:06:41.970 Okay, it's not zero emissions. 01:06:43.650 --> 01:06:54.130 But it definitely is something that very quickly, if you were able to scale doing those. 01:06:54.130 --> 01:06:59.550 And there are a number of European companies that are pushing on this, like right now. 01:07:00.390 --> 01:07:05.030 And also because you can use it to replace, like, in one of the places where 01:07:05.030 --> 01:07:07.950 you have the bigger problems, it's just like airplanes and that kind of stuff. 01:07:08.910 --> 01:07:12.870 You know, where if you're able to do that, then you can get clean energy up there. 01:07:12.970 --> 01:07:16.950 But my whole point is, going back to this stupid administration and what the 01:07:16.950 --> 01:07:20.210 fuck they're doing, the whole point is that they, you know... 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:27.520 They keep doing this entire smokescreen of all this shit like over there in 01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:34.440 order to be able to help their big corporate donors and themselves to make money. 01:07:34.860 --> 01:07:36.400 Did you buy that Trump coin? 01:07:37.160 --> 01:07:39.640 I have not bought the Trump coin. 01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:41.460 What about the Melania coin? 01:07:44.020 --> 01:07:48.380 I suck. I have not. And I didn't buy DJT either. 01:07:48.980 --> 01:07:56.140 I'm just not. i i have i have not properly playing this administration monetarily. 01:07:56.140 --> 01:07:59.120 Well well by the way yeah well good news 01:07:59.120 --> 01:08:02.280 is that you're not properly played as administration because apparently so 01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:05.320 like the trump coin came out and then the melania coin 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.580 came out and then immediately after the the melania 01:08:08.580 --> 01:08:12.060 coin came out the trump coin dropped like 80 percent people 01:08:12.060 --> 01:08:15.200 lost about 40 billion dollars apparently but 01:08:15.200 --> 01:08:19.780 you know the people left caught holding the bag basically just just you know 01:08:19.780 --> 01:08:24.040 they did the traditional pump and dump they got they got caught holding the 01:08:24.040 --> 01:08:30.280 bag and now a whole bunch of crypto people are pissed off at at trump because 01:08:30.280 --> 01:08:33.900 because they each has basically screwed them, 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:37.480 i would never do that what are 01:08:37.480 --> 01:08:42.140 you talking about i i know i know i know i it must be it must you know, 01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:45.040 it can't be true now. I know. 01:08:45.780 --> 01:08:53.860 So I just think that this week has been just this entire thing where also Trump 01:08:53.860 --> 01:08:58.080 is basking in the number one thing that he wanted, which is attention. 01:08:58.400 --> 01:08:58.800 Yes. 01:08:59.380 --> 01:09:03.380 Now he's got the world's attention. 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:06.880 Oh, yes. Oh, yes. 01:09:07.040 --> 01:09:10.160 Now it's like, I mean... 01:09:11.070 --> 01:09:16.790 He has the world's attention. Everything that he says moves markets. 01:09:17.850 --> 01:09:22.450 I was watching last night. I watched the most recent Frontline, 01:09:22.610 --> 01:09:26.110 which came out on the 21st, the day after the inauguration. 01:09:26.310 --> 01:09:28.390 And it was about Donald Trump's comeback. 01:09:28.610 --> 01:09:33.110 So it basically reviewed Donald Trump's entire life, but with emphasizing all 01:09:33.110 --> 01:09:34.910 of the times he's come back from failure. 01:09:35.170 --> 01:09:39.490 The most recent of which was the most recent election. And one of the things 01:09:39.490 --> 01:09:43.770 that one of his former aides, I forget which one was talking about, 01:09:43.930 --> 01:09:47.610 or no, maybe it was one of the Fox news people, whatever. 01:09:47.970 --> 01:09:57.130 Somebody was talking about exactly what you just said about it is all about dominating attention. 01:09:57.130 --> 01:10:00.330 And like with everything else 01:10:00.330 --> 01:10:03.190 going on i mean he wants to be a winner he can't 01:10:03.190 --> 01:10:06.950 conceive of himself as a loser but he absolutely positively 01:10:06.950 --> 01:10:13.250 wants to dominate attention at all times and his whole thing for the first administration 01:10:13.250 --> 01:10:18.050 which he is reprising from the second administration is he runs it as a tv show 01:10:18.050 --> 01:10:25.430 it is all about like what is the plot of today's episode and how are we going to get attention today? 01:10:25.910 --> 01:10:28.990 It is not about what are we going to achieve? 01:10:29.390 --> 01:10:35.510 It is not about governing. It is about how can we drive the media cycle this 01:10:35.510 --> 01:10:37.370 day, this week, this whatever. 01:10:38.110 --> 01:10:41.950 And, you know, and it is all about driving that attention. 01:10:42.110 --> 01:10:46.270 And in the meantime, by the way, you know, a lot of things do happen. 01:10:46.410 --> 01:10:49.950 I mean, we talked about this before, how often the flashy thing that's getting 01:10:49.950 --> 01:10:53.730 all the attention isn't necessarily the most impactful thing. Thank you. 01:10:54.370 --> 01:10:58.590 You know, so, you know, he will, we will have Elon giving a hit. 01:10:58.730 --> 01:11:00.930 Well, like the judges. Look, the judges. Yeah. 01:11:01.030 --> 01:11:01.290 Okay. 01:11:01.410 --> 01:11:05.330 The last time around. Very clear. That wasn't the one thing that he was talking 01:11:05.330 --> 01:11:08.570 about all the time. But damn it, you know what? 01:11:09.070 --> 01:11:12.470 The damage that, that the long-term, 01:11:12.470 --> 01:11:15.990 you know, implications that all those judges that they ram through. 01:11:16.050 --> 01:11:18.490 Yeah. Not just SOTUS, but at all levels. 01:11:18.650 --> 01:11:25.630 At all levels. At all levels. Yeah. I mean, that's a clear example right there. 01:11:26.110 --> 01:11:32.610 Yeah, absolutely. And so even now in this week, I was going to say we have people 01:11:32.610 --> 01:11:35.930 all going crazy about Elon giving the Nazi salute. 01:11:36.070 --> 01:11:38.450 And I mean, my God, Elon gave the Nazi salute. 01:11:38.830 --> 01:11:42.530 But does that actually have an impact on anything directly? No. 01:11:42.530 --> 01:11:48.590 No, you know, it just continues to reduce Musk's popularity, 01:11:48.590 --> 01:11:53.310 which probably Trump is happy because I'm sure he hates that Trump, 01:11:53.530 --> 01:11:55.570 that Musk getting more attention than him. 01:11:56.290 --> 01:12:00.270 Well, and like you said, I was just using that as one example, 01:12:00.430 --> 01:12:02.450 but there's also like, oh, 01:12:02.910 --> 01:12:09.170 we're sending people on the deportation flights again, but that's actually not 01:12:09.170 --> 01:12:12.490 a change yet at this point, but he's going for the attention of it. 01:12:13.210 --> 01:12:16.630 Meanwhile some of the all of these firings 01:12:16.630 --> 01:12:19.930 up and down the federal government that has 01:12:19.930 --> 01:12:24.510 gotten some attention but that's probably more impactful in the long run because 01:12:24.510 --> 01:12:29.630 he is systematic and by the way all of this stuff despite all the denials like 01:12:29.630 --> 01:12:33.090 something like 60 70 percent of what we've seen in this first week is straight 01:12:33.090 --> 01:12:38.510 out of project 2025 you know it was laid out in detail there so So all of the like, oh, 01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:41.690 that wasn't Donald Trump. There's nothing to do. Whatever. Fuck you. 01:12:42.230 --> 01:12:50.690 Yeah. But the, the, the, the firings are all about decimating from top to bottom 01:12:50.690 --> 01:12:51.790 in the federal government, 01:12:52.070 --> 01:12:58.670 all of the institutional protections against misusing those institutions. 01:12:59.450 --> 01:13:03.530 They've, he fired all the inspector generals yesterday or all but one or two. 01:13:04.430 --> 01:13:09.950 And those specifically are watchdogs that are intended to be independent overview 01:13:09.950 --> 01:13:15.070 to make sure agencies are doing what they're supposed to do in the way they're 01:13:15.070 --> 01:13:18.630 supposed to do it. All those folks are gone, going to be replaced by loyalists. 01:13:19.350 --> 01:13:24.690 Threw out a bunch of people at DOJ, career people, not political appointees 01:13:24.690 --> 01:13:29.470 who were, like, for instance, I think he got rid of almost everybody at the 01:13:29.470 --> 01:13:33.950 Civil Rights Department, you know, and halted all those prosecutions. 01:13:34.970 --> 01:13:42.110 Et cetera, et cetera. And I just saw a quote. Where was this quote? Charlie Kirk. 01:13:42.870 --> 01:13:48.410 This was actually a few days ago, but after inauguration. 01:13:48.870 --> 01:13:52.930 Let this be a warning to any federal official that delays or doesn't listen 01:13:52.930 --> 01:13:57.230 to the president's orders. It won't end well for you. Don't get cute. 01:13:57.450 --> 01:14:05.230 Do your job and listen to orders. and this is you know now really do your job 01:14:05.230 --> 01:14:08.250 actually like done correctly your job. 01:14:08.250 --> 01:14:09.850 Is counter to listening to orders. 01:14:09.850 --> 01:14:12.830 Well yeah do your job actually involves pushing 01:14:12.830 --> 01:14:16.130 back when the orders are back right correct yeah exactly 01:14:16.130 --> 01:14:19.330 you know but that's not that's not the vision here 01:14:19.330 --> 01:14:23.050 the vision here is loyalty and 01:14:23.050 --> 01:14:29.850 pure 100 obey immediately do what you're told or else and and that that's The 01:14:29.850 --> 01:14:35.150 purges that are happening are to make sure the entire federal government is 01:14:35.150 --> 01:14:41.210 aligned from top to bottom from day one to implement the MAGA agenda without complaint, 01:14:41.250 --> 01:14:45.030 even for the illegal things. 01:14:45.490 --> 01:14:49.070 So, for instance, just the firing of the attorney generals, by the way, 01:14:49.170 --> 01:14:52.550 and this is where the attorney inspector generals, which, Yvonne, 01:14:52.670 --> 01:14:54.950 you mentioned there are going to be lawsuits on a lot of these. 01:14:54.950 --> 01:15:00.490 Well, apparently, the law actually required 30-day notice to get rid of these people. 01:15:00.830 --> 01:15:03.530 That's exactly right. Two Congress, yes. 01:15:03.870 --> 01:15:10.050 There was no notice given. So that act of firing itself was probably- Was illegal. 01:15:10.490 --> 01:15:13.210 But who's going to do anything about it? Nobody. 01:15:14.060 --> 01:15:15.780 There's nobody in any sort of... 01:15:15.780 --> 01:15:18.300 Well, I mean, yeah, it's very difficult to... 01:15:19.140 --> 01:15:22.600 There will be lawsuits, like you said. There'll be lawsuits on this. 01:15:23.240 --> 01:15:26.760 But there is nothing to do immediately that it's going to fix it. 01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:33.300 Well, but even like you said, though, the courts are full of Trump sympathizers 01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:34.820 at this point, including SCOTUS. 01:15:34.940 --> 01:15:37.380 Now, sometimes they will push back anyway. 01:15:37.500 --> 01:15:38.520 But listen... 01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:41.980 But a lot of these things will go further than you think they would because of that. 01:15:41.980 --> 01:15:48.460 No, no, I agree with that. But the reality is that in many cases already in 01:15:48.460 --> 01:15:51.980 the past, even when things have been egregiously, 01:15:53.020 --> 01:15:56.900 across the law, for the most part, not in all cases, okay, the courts have for 01:15:56.900 --> 01:16:00.300 the most part sided on the part of the law, even like a lot of his appointees, 01:16:00.660 --> 01:16:05.220 which is to his chagrin, by the way. But I'll give you an example. 01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:10.820 This particular one, the 30 days notice to Congress before you can fire something, fire somebody. 01:16:10.820 --> 01:16:16.040 One of the things the current court seems to be you know have a majority for 01:16:16.040 --> 01:16:22.120 is very strong executive powers that should not be limited by congress so a 01:16:22.120 --> 01:16:25.580 law that says you have to notify congress is exactly the kind of thing that 01:16:25.580 --> 01:16:27.220 i'd say there's at least a 50 01:16:27.220 --> 01:16:30.060 chance that they're going to say is unconstitutional when it gets to them. 01:16:30.060 --> 01:16:40.720 I i hear it but but again the thing is I don't in many of these cases like this one for example, 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:49.160 What the remedy that may be obtained is probably – it's not that these people 01:16:49.160 --> 01:16:50.880 are going to be instituted back. 01:16:51.020 --> 01:16:55.520 It's not that the administration is going to go to jail for it. It's none of that. 01:16:55.860 --> 01:16:59.320 Probably some civil – some payment to them. 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:06.300 They'll get money for violation of the – because they were fired illegally, but that's about it. 01:17:07.260 --> 01:17:10.980 You're right in the sense that they're basically taking the attitude, 01:17:11.160 --> 01:17:15.620 which, by the way, in some cases, depending on what country. 01:17:16.060 --> 01:17:22.940 I've been in contractual situations where the penalty is worth it. 01:17:23.120 --> 01:17:23.880 What the fuck's the penalty? 01:17:24.120 --> 01:17:24.420 The penalty is worth it. 01:17:25.380 --> 01:17:29.200 And I'm just like, fuck it, do it, whatever. We'll pay the ticket and get the fuck out of here. 01:17:29.820 --> 01:17:34.160 And that's the attitude that I think that they are taking right now, 01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:35.320 where in many of these cases. 01:17:35.320 --> 01:17:40.880 We have specifically criticized the Democrats in some cases for not being aggressive like that. 01:17:41.180 --> 01:17:41.280 Correct. 01:17:41.820 --> 01:17:46.140 Do the thing and take it to court. Don't just say, oh, well, 01:17:46.260 --> 01:17:47.820 this is unconstitutional. 01:17:47.820 --> 01:17:50.460 Oh, this is illegal, so we're not going to do it. And I'm like, 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.600 at this point, like right now, we're at a point where you have to be more aggressive than that. 01:17:55.700 --> 01:17:56.360 You have to fight. 01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:00.000 The other side, because the other side isn't playing by those rules. 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:05.960 You can't be in a game where the other side is ignoring the rules completely 01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.500 and you trying to play by the rules completely. 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.600 I'm not saying to be- Which. 01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:15.100 By the way, just simply at the inaugural, there's a lot of criticism just for 01:18:15.100 --> 01:18:19.080 Democrats going along and playing the game and being like, oh, 01:18:19.160 --> 01:18:21.200 we'll do this. It is nice and civil. 01:18:21.480 --> 01:18:25.060 We'll laugh and we'll shake their hands and we'll attend and blah, 01:18:25.140 --> 01:18:29.920 blah, blah. and saying, you know, well, you spent months... 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:35.180 To be fair, the lip reader read that Obama walked up to W, okay, 01:18:35.400 --> 01:18:38.500 and basically said, how do we stop this shit? 01:18:40.900 --> 01:18:45.600 And W just exploded laughing. I mean, because he's like... 01:18:46.700 --> 01:18:51.120 Because, how do we stop this shit? Look, listen, I'm okay with... 01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:54.880 Listen, I get about opposing doing whatever. 01:18:55.740 --> 01:18:58.320 But the problem is that that wasn't the moment. 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:00.260 Well, yeah, but. 01:19:00.260 --> 01:19:04.660 The moment was when we should have when Biden should have packed the court, 01:19:05.540 --> 01:19:11.640 fucked up, you know, fucked up, the whatchamacallit, the filibuster, 01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:14.480 filibuster, that kind of shit. 01:19:14.620 --> 01:19:18.840 But but also, but on the flip side, OK, look, in Biden's defense, 01:19:19.100 --> 01:19:24.520 I will say myself that I agreed with Biden's approach. I thought that maybe 01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.540 that would be the best way to get things back to some kind of normalcy. 01:19:27.780 --> 01:19:31.740 I'm going to say it. I thought that his approach, I agree with his approach. 01:19:32.040 --> 01:19:34.720 The fact that it didn't work now, I realize that, you know, 01:19:35.630 --> 01:19:40.110 I mean, we can't whatever we're doing right now has to be an all bets are off fucking. 01:19:40.330 --> 01:19:41.390 Well, here's the thing. 01:19:41.630 --> 01:19:42.710 The thing is, is. 01:19:42.850 --> 01:19:46.610 Is at the start of the Biden presidency, I was pushing for all bets are off. 01:19:46.690 --> 01:19:49.390 I was like, make states, pack the court, do all this stuff right now, 01:19:49.490 --> 01:19:53.090 kill the filibuster, do a whole bunch of stuff. But the problem was you were. 01:19:53.130 --> 01:19:53.830 But I wasn't. 01:19:53.970 --> 01:19:58.610 No, I know. I know you weren't. But the problem was even for first of all, Biden did not. 01:19:58.790 --> 01:20:02.450 The rest of the Democrats weren't there anyway. 01:20:02.450 --> 01:20:09.150 Like there, he could not, you know, you had at least Manchin and Sinema, 01:20:09.350 --> 01:20:14.490 but probably four or five more Democrats who didn't want to go along with any of that agenda anyway. 01:20:14.750 --> 01:20:19.730 And so like, even if Biden had been pushing it, it would not have gone there. 01:20:20.310 --> 01:20:26.890 But yeah, I feel like the moment for timidity and let's act like everything 01:20:26.890 --> 01:20:30.110 is normal has long since passed. 01:20:30.350 --> 01:20:34.310 And so Democrats need to be aggressive. So I'm, I am actually a little, 01:20:34.490 --> 01:20:38.210 now, would I have attended the inauguration as Biden? Yes, I would have. 01:20:38.430 --> 01:20:44.570 But, you know, I feel like there's a lot of the Democratic approach so far has 01:20:44.570 --> 01:20:48.490 not, I mean, there's a question of what the hell they can do. 01:20:48.490 --> 01:20:51.650 No, right now, at this moment, there's not much you can do. 01:20:51.770 --> 01:20:54.950 But the approach going forward has to be a complete change of what the fuck the approach is. 01:20:55.050 --> 01:20:57.670 This has to be like, you know, this has, right now, bottom line, 01:20:57.750 --> 01:21:00.030 the approach has to be scorched earth. Fuck this shit. Okay. 01:21:00.130 --> 01:21:00.350 Yeah. 01:21:00.590 --> 01:21:03.650 But not today. But I'm telling you, it's not today. 01:21:03.970 --> 01:21:06.690 And I'm going to tell you why. Because right now, you're going to go scorched 01:21:06.690 --> 01:21:08.990 earth. You're going to be exhausted by the time that you actually need to go 01:21:08.990 --> 01:21:11.330 scorched earth. So you can't do it like right now. 01:21:11.790 --> 01:21:17.130 You can't sustain scorched earth nonstop. Okay. All right. Unless you're a psychopath. Okay. 01:21:17.550 --> 01:21:22.450 And that's a problem. OK, because only the psychopaths can sustain that a long time. 01:21:22.530 --> 01:21:26.490 And actually, eventually they go and blow up, too. But speaking of blowing up. 01:21:26.750 --> 01:21:26.870 Yeah. 01:21:27.230 --> 01:21:28.050 Trump in California. 01:21:28.830 --> 01:21:31.770 The trees are loaded with water. They suck that water on the ground. 01:21:32.030 --> 01:21:33.450 It's called management of the floor. 01:21:37.170 --> 01:21:40.950 Also, Trump in California, apparently there's a big valve. 01:21:41.790 --> 01:21:43.970 Yes, we know about the valve. Yes. 01:21:44.490 --> 01:21:47.030 There's a valve. Apparently there's a valve, Sam. 01:21:47.150 --> 01:21:51.510 He's been talking about this valve and spigot for months, and it has not stopped. 01:21:51.730 --> 01:21:53.190 He's still talking about it today. 01:21:53.450 --> 01:21:56.730 We need to open the valve. This is the whole problem. 01:21:58.410 --> 01:22:02.650 Do we go and drive around and find a valve maybe that's what we should do we 01:22:02.650 --> 01:22:08.130 should go out you know like one of those random trips we're going to take a 01:22:08.130 --> 01:22:13.350 car we're going to rent an SUV and we're going to go and try to find the California valve. 01:22:16.850 --> 01:22:19.650 There we go yes let's find that. 01:22:19.650 --> 01:22:23.250 I mean let's find the California valve we're going to go drive it around we're 01:22:23.250 --> 01:22:27.530 going to be looking through places yeah we're going to go find a valve i. 01:22:27.530 --> 01:22:29.230 Saw someone speculating that 01:22:29.230 --> 01:22:33.350 the reason that donald trump thinks that there's a valve that will take. 01:22:33.350 --> 01:22:34.230 Stuff from like. 01:22:34.230 --> 01:22:41.910 Oregon and go down to california is exactly because california is lower than oregon on a map. 01:22:41.910 --> 01:22:51.050 Yeah so gravity yes yes yes yeah yeah you know water flows only north to south. 01:22:52.110 --> 01:22:56.090 There was, yes, speaking of that, there was another good article. 01:22:56.330 --> 01:23:00.130 I shared this on the Curmudgeon's Corner Slack. Let me find it real quick. 01:23:00.450 --> 01:23:05.790 But of someone pointing out just the, 01:23:07.320 --> 01:23:17.080 Not all the evil stuff, but all the stupid stuff that is also back now that we have Donald Trump. 01:23:19.660 --> 01:23:21.360 I'm going to find this. Give me a second. 01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:25.020 Oh, it was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the one about him just being an idiot. 01:23:25.300 --> 01:23:27.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. 01:23:29.080 --> 01:23:30.040 Oh, God. 01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:35.520 Oh, here we go. It was an opinion piece in the Washington Post. 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:44.220 Trump Returns and So Does His Astounding Ignorance by Dana Milbank, posted on January 24th. 01:23:44.420 --> 01:23:47.840 And it just goes through the list 01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:57.920 of just absolutely moronic things that indicate he has no freaking idea. 01:23:58.160 --> 01:23:59.220 About anything. 01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:00.920 About anything. 01:24:01.780 --> 01:24:03.020 Anything. Anything. 01:24:06.940 --> 01:24:13.440 Look, here is, listen, let me be straight up on this. Why he has succeeded. 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:18.720 There is one thing that he has succeeded going back to the 70s and 80s. 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:21.120 He is a good con man. 01:24:21.440 --> 01:24:31.660 Yes. He has an instinctual notion of how to influence people in a way that he 01:24:31.660 --> 01:24:34.040 wants. He will understand their weaknesses. 01:24:34.440 --> 01:24:37.860 He will understand the things he cares about. Like you said before, 01:24:37.860 --> 01:24:41.260 he will understand what prejudices you can work on. 01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:47.840 All of this stuff to move things in a direction he wants. 01:24:48.040 --> 01:24:55.100 Now, what that direction is that he wants is almost always his pocketbook. Yes. 01:24:55.360 --> 01:24:57.600 Or otherwise, attention to him. 01:24:58.160 --> 01:25:01.240 Attention to him and money. Attention to him, money. 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:02.660 Yes. Yeah. 01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:03.680 That's it. Yeah. 01:25:03.820 --> 01:25:06.120 You've solved Donald Trump. And –, 01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:11.920 I think he does have direct antipathy and hatred for a few groups. 01:25:12.420 --> 01:25:15.620 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, oh, totally. Absolutely. 01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.500 Yes, he does have. He hates Puerto Ricans. I know that for sure. 01:25:18.620 --> 01:25:21.080 He said that. It's been documented many, many times. 01:25:21.320 --> 01:25:26.620 So that's why he wanted to sell us to Denmark, which I fucking look. 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.620 I will say again, Denmark, look. 01:25:29.740 --> 01:25:30.960 You're ready for that trade. 01:25:31.420 --> 01:25:35.700 Look, guys, I'm willing to make a deal. 01:25:36.260 --> 01:25:40.160 I'm willing to make a deal Believe me I will take, 01:25:41.500 --> 01:25:48.880 If we If Puerto Rico becomes part of the EU And we're in Denmark I'll probably move back to Puerto Rico, 01:25:50.120 --> 01:25:55.280 I'm not kidding Okay I will probably move back to Puerto Rico Very soon afterwards, 01:25:56.120 --> 01:25:59.020 You know It's because you're all about the Danish's, 01:25:59.960 --> 01:26:05.780 Yes I love the Danish's Actually those are good but I like their butter more 01:26:05.780 --> 01:26:14.900 ah okay look that lure pack let me tell you something that's some serious shit okay so, 01:26:16.440 --> 01:26:23.900 so yeah I mean it's yes as long as it feeds his prejudices get some attention 01:26:23.900 --> 01:26:29.740 and you know gets money in his pocket all aligned. 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:39.040 Okay let's do this this let's take another break real quick and then i do want to get into two specific, 01:26:40.160 --> 01:26:44.480 trump actions and talk a little bit more about those and those are going to 01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:50.420 be the january 6 pardons and the anti-dei moves across the federal government 01:26:50.420 --> 01:26:55.220 and but yeah let's let's take a break and then we'll get into those and then 01:26:55.220 --> 01:26:59.240 we'll wrap this sucker up so here is the break, 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:47.700 Okay, we are back. So let me start January 6th pardons. We haven't even mentioned them. 01:28:48.300 --> 01:28:50.800 One of the things here is that. 01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:54.380 I mean, it's one of those things that I'm just like. 01:28:54.980 --> 01:28:59.720 Well, yeah, I mean, every single thing on this list. 01:29:00.100 --> 01:29:06.940 I mean, Trump has not done anything, not a single thing in this first week that 01:29:06.940 --> 01:29:10.560 he is not completely telegraphed throughout the last four years. 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.280 Like he has said he would 01:29:13.280 --> 01:29:16.320 do all of this kind of stuff on the january 6th 01:29:16.320 --> 01:29:20.160 pardon specifically though up until the 01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:26.860 day before the inauguration people in his orbit were saying we will be careful 01:29:26.860 --> 01:29:32.040 we will look at each case individually we will do this we'll like vance was 01:29:32.040 --> 01:29:37.260 on the sunday morning shows the day before the inauguration saying that of course 01:29:37.260 --> 01:29:39.280 we wouldn't pardon the violent ones, 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:42.780 and okay so. 01:29:42.780 --> 01:29:44.600 So i mean. 01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:49.600 I mean so by the way there's an abort part of the story is apparently they were 01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:53.480 trying to go through case by case with donald trump and talk about this and 01:29:53.480 --> 01:29:56.720 they were talking about they're doing the research and figuring out what was okay. 01:29:59.260 --> 01:30:00.440 Read can't read. 01:30:00.440 --> 01:30:05.560 A comic book yes yes so here's they were they were having the meeting with Donald 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.220 Trump trying to decide who would get nothing, who would get a commutation, 01:30:09.480 --> 01:30:10.860 who would get a pardon, blah, blah, blah. 01:30:11.260 --> 01:30:17.660 Trump got sick of this right away. And the direct quote is, fuck it, release them all. 01:30:19.030 --> 01:30:23.230 That makes total sense. You see, the thing is that instead of going one by one, 01:30:23.250 --> 01:30:25.590 if they really wanted to do that, they should have already said, 01:30:25.710 --> 01:30:28.570 okay, these are the violent ones, these are the violent ones, these would know. 01:30:29.570 --> 01:30:33.550 These, good, okay? Already haven't done it. And then he would have been like, okay, fine. 01:30:34.370 --> 01:30:38.990 But you want to go through him like one by one. I mean, you know, 01:30:39.170 --> 01:30:42.290 the guy that has the attention span of a fucking squirrel. 01:30:42.290 --> 01:30:45.930 I think they weren't even actually at the point of going through one by one, 01:30:46.050 --> 01:30:51.570 but just trying to tell him what would be involved in looking at all of the cases. 01:30:51.810 --> 01:30:56.030 You needed to have, one of the things that I have noticed with him that works 01:30:56.030 --> 01:30:57.210 is presenting him fair complete. 01:30:57.930 --> 01:30:58.370 Yes. 01:30:58.910 --> 01:31:02.350 You know, you already presented to him and it's like, look, this is what you 01:31:02.350 --> 01:31:05.730 asked. It's good. Whatever. Got done. Fuck it. 01:31:06.330 --> 01:31:13.970 Right. And the thing here is, now he did commute a small number of them who 01:31:13.970 --> 01:31:18.290 were mostly proud boys, definitely violent. 01:31:18.550 --> 01:31:23.010 But there's a total of, I believe it was almost 1,600. 01:31:23.290 --> 01:31:27.630 I think it was 1,582 or something like people out of this. 01:31:27.630 --> 01:31:34.330 Of which like 600 were violent in some way shape or form and something like 01:31:34.330 --> 01:31:45.370 200 had inflicted serious injuries on police officers you know and and so all all you know and look, 01:31:46.390 --> 01:31:50.110 And there are interviews with a bunch of these people as they're being released 01:31:50.110 --> 01:31:53.810 that are, for the most part, completely unrepentant. 01:31:53.930 --> 01:31:58.350 There's this one grandmother who made the news because she's like, 01:31:58.410 --> 01:32:02.710 I don't want the pardon. I'm refusing the pardon because I'm guilty and I now 01:32:02.710 --> 01:32:05.410 realize what I did was wrong and I deserve to be punished. 01:32:07.290 --> 01:32:10.090 Probably the rare, rare exception. 01:32:10.570 --> 01:32:13.950 Yeah, this is one out of almost 1600. okay 01:32:13.950 --> 01:32:17.490 and i don't know if that if if actually 01:32:17.490 --> 01:32:21.050 like rejecting a pardon is even legally a thing like 01:32:21.050 --> 01:32:23.990 you can say you don't want it all you want but it's it's 01:32:23.990 --> 01:32:27.110 in legal force and it can't be undone you know 01:32:27.110 --> 01:32:30.370 but in any case most of 01:32:30.370 --> 01:32:34.450 these people completely under repentance saying they would do it again the the 01:32:34.450 --> 01:32:38.830 q anon shaman or whoever he was the guy who was wearing the horns and the face 01:32:38.830 --> 01:32:47.590 makeup and all whatever his quote is was like whoa i'm gonna go buy some guns you know so. 01:32:50.810 --> 01:32:52.010 Sounds i mean. 01:32:52.010 --> 01:32:55.070 And and lots of lots of these people came 01:32:55.070 --> 01:32:58.150 out essentially swearing their allegiance to donald 01:32:58.150 --> 01:33:01.890 trump and saying they'd do it all over again the second he asked you 01:33:01.890 --> 01:33:04.590 know um and they're ready to 01:33:04.590 --> 01:33:09.210 fight there's a couple of them came out and said that it's now time for our 01:33:09.210 --> 01:33:12.830 revenge and our vengeance and we need to be going after all of those people 01:33:12.830 --> 01:33:20.770 who investigated us yeah so so i i don't know look maybe it'll come to nothing 01:33:20.770 --> 01:33:24.490 but like these folks are dangerous oh. 01:33:24.490 --> 01:33:28.690 No these folks are individually dangerous i mean and i and i get that but also 01:33:28.690 --> 01:33:33.130 you know they're they're also aligned with the biggest blowhard in the history of mankind. 01:33:33.650 --> 01:33:33.790 Yeah. 01:33:33.990 --> 01:33:40.470 And look, for, you know, I'm just like, you know, I mean, yeah, sure. 01:33:40.910 --> 01:33:43.810 Listen, a few of them already have managed to get themselves arrested again. 01:33:43.950 --> 01:33:46.330 Oh, I know. It didn't take a, it didn't take a. 01:33:46.450 --> 01:33:48.010 It didn't take a, like, you know. 01:33:49.210 --> 01:33:51.790 I heard of one. Is there more than one now? 01:33:53.470 --> 01:33:58.810 I heard of two that I recall right now. But come on, they haven't been out of 01:33:58.810 --> 01:34:00.390 24 hours. You're already getting arrested. 01:34:02.910 --> 01:34:06.270 I mean, what the fuck? I mean. 01:34:08.790 --> 01:34:11.990 And there's a lot of legal disentangling to be done. 01:34:12.290 --> 01:34:17.430 So, for instance, there was one case I heard of who someone who. 01:34:18.710 --> 01:34:27.490 Had gone to jail, was out, but had an ankle monitor, and then destroyed the 01:34:27.490 --> 01:34:31.490 ankle monitor and went on the run for a couple of days, and then was caught 01:34:31.490 --> 01:34:33.470 again, and got additional, 01:34:34.150 --> 01:34:36.670 sentencing for trying to evade the sentence. 01:34:37.330 --> 01:34:41.650 They're now in court trying to argue whether or not the additional sentence 01:34:41.650 --> 01:34:47.870 from getting rid of the ankle monitor was also pardoned, or only their actual 01:34:47.870 --> 01:34:49.490 activities on January 6th. 01:34:53.370 --> 01:34:55.830 Gotta love these people. I mean, you know. 01:34:59.210 --> 01:35:00.250 You know. 01:35:00.510 --> 01:35:03.230 Nothing but the best people, Sam. Nothing but the best people. 01:35:03.370 --> 01:35:05.970 Nothing but the best. But, you know. 01:35:07.190 --> 01:35:14.490 Yeah. I was going to mention Officer Fanone, who has been on talking about how 01:35:14.490 --> 01:35:16.990 him and his family are getting death threats. 01:35:16.990 --> 01:35:20.310 All the time is that the guy that said to go fuck that uh you would tell him 01:35:20.310 --> 01:35:22.370 to go fuck themselves on cnn live yes. 01:35:22.370 --> 01:35:23.610 It was that was him. 01:35:23.610 --> 01:35:28.330 Great um but by the way i don't know they've been harassing his mom is there 01:35:28.330 --> 01:35:32.170 a way is there a place to donate money to to like get him like protection just 01:35:32.170 --> 01:35:35.710 gotta be somewhere because we we gotta promote that because these guys i'm sorry 01:35:35.710 --> 01:35:39.810 one thing that i that i am for is like there's a number of these people and 01:35:39.810 --> 01:35:41.830 they're i don't know somebody probably. 01:35:41.830 --> 01:35:42.610 Is they're probably. 01:35:42.610 --> 01:35:46.790 There we gotta we we gotta like you know fuck Whatever the fuck one of these 01:35:46.790 --> 01:35:50.170 people need to be defended against these clowns, I'm like, I'm all for fucking 01:35:50.170 --> 01:35:53.850 like, you know, making sure that they need to get whatever the fuck help they need. 01:35:54.210 --> 01:35:58.070 Well, because I'm going to let these assholes let them be intimidated. 01:35:58.070 --> 01:36:01.030 Fanon was mentioning in an interview that after the pardons, 01:36:01.210 --> 01:36:04.770 because of the volume of death threats against him and his family, 01:36:05.050 --> 01:36:09.150 him, his ex-wife, his children, his mother, all getting threats, 01:36:09.370 --> 01:36:13.670 all getting physically harassed, like people showing up at his mom's house and 01:36:13.670 --> 01:36:18.630 throwing shit at her, literally, threw a bag of shit at her, this kind of stuff. 01:36:18.630 --> 01:36:23.750 And things are more violent than that, two death threats all the time. 01:36:23.930 --> 01:36:29.130 He went to try to go to court immediately after the pardons to get like restraining 01:36:29.130 --> 01:36:35.830 orders or whatever put in place and was basically told that it would be a long, complex process. 01:36:36.510 --> 01:36:42.390 He would have to individually serve notice to every specific person he was worried 01:36:42.390 --> 01:36:46.810 about and that even then it would only be a limited time frame. 01:36:47.370 --> 01:36:50.230 Like that was covered and then they'd be free again. 01:36:50.730 --> 01:36:54.150 And, and so he's like, what do I do? What do I do? 01:36:54.570 --> 01:36:57.590 You know, and he's not the only one, obviously. 01:36:57.850 --> 01:37:02.170 And he, and in his case, like this, this is general, by the way, 01:37:02.270 --> 01:37:06.170 like absolutely anybody on the anti-Trump side who was prominent, 01:37:06.510 --> 01:37:10.110 especially people who testified in front of the January 6th committee. 01:37:10.110 --> 01:37:13.390 This has been true of their lives ever since 01:37:13.390 --> 01:37:16.550 they testified but in the 01:37:16.550 --> 01:37:19.490 case of finone and others he specifically got like 01:37:19.490 --> 01:37:22.530 he was beaten on the day of he was 01:37:22.530 --> 01:37:28.370 tased he had a heart attack on the scene he had traumatic brain injury on the 01:37:28.370 --> 01:37:33.190 scene all this kind of stuff some of the people released are the specific people 01:37:33.190 --> 01:37:40.690 who did that to him you know and you know so anyway like But again, 01:37:41.010 --> 01:37:45.910 I have heard multiple people express surprise that were like, 01:37:46.370 --> 01:37:50.870 well, we expected him to pardon people, but we thought that he was going to 01:37:50.870 --> 01:37:53.570 be careful about the violent versus not violent, whatever. 01:37:53.810 --> 01:37:56.130 And it's like, no, people, come on. 01:37:56.470 --> 01:38:01.970 Of course he was going to do this. It would have been the surprise if he'd been more measured. 01:38:03.950 --> 01:38:09.510 He is paying off the people who supported him. He is getting them out. 01:38:09.850 --> 01:38:15.250 He is, to some degree, getting sort of a small reserve army to call upon again in the future. 01:38:15.590 --> 01:38:18.870 And, duh, of course. 01:38:19.970 --> 01:38:23.730 And like you were saying, Yvonne, like, really, you are going to expect Donald 01:38:23.730 --> 01:38:30.170 Trump to sift through the subtleties of 1,600 different cases and make a nuanced decision? 01:38:30.830 --> 01:38:35.710 By the way, I am sharing this. There is a recent GoFundMe that is verified. 01:38:35.890 --> 01:38:39.330 That is, it just started recently. I'm going to put it on our Slack. 01:38:39.890 --> 01:38:44.610 Furfanone, yes, I am about to donate money right now to help him. 01:38:45.310 --> 01:38:50.310 So yeah, if you guys, you know, a pony up and give this guy some money because 01:38:50.310 --> 01:38:54.230 he definitely needs the support from people. 01:38:55.330 --> 01:38:58.990 And to be clear, though, it's not just him. He's one of the ones that's most vocal. 01:38:59.150 --> 01:39:02.670 But yeah, he's one of the ones that has been most targeted. So yeah, 01:39:02.810 --> 01:39:07.630 I mean, but you know, look, whatever you can do to help this guy. Yeah, go. 01:39:09.210 --> 01:39:15.390 And for people not on the GoFundMe, I'll just read it out. 01:39:15.390 --> 01:39:22.550 It's GoFundMe.com slash F slash support hyphen hero hyphen Michael hyphen Fanon 01:39:22.550 --> 01:39:25.750 hyphen and hyphen his hyphen family. 01:39:26.210 --> 01:39:26.550 Yeah. 01:39:26.950 --> 01:39:29.870 There you go. And you said this is properly verified and everything. 01:39:30.150 --> 01:39:31.450 Yes. I just double checked it. Yes. 01:39:31.710 --> 01:39:38.150 Yeah. So anyway. So yeah, there, there, there, there we go. Yeah. 01:39:38.150 --> 01:39:45.830 Oh, it's a, it's a, it's going to be a long four years. 01:39:47.130 --> 01:39:53.430 Okay. So the other, the other thing in our last few minutes is to just talk about the DEI stuff. 01:39:54.490 --> 01:39:57.490 Cause you know, we had a nice discussion on the Slack, by the way, 01:39:57.690 --> 01:40:02.410 of DEI. So for those of you not on the Slack, you're missing out. You should check it out. 01:40:03.250 --> 01:40:09.090 But basically what Donald Trump has done is immediately suspended anybody, 01:40:09.470 --> 01:40:13.610 anywhere in the federal government doing anything related to DEI. 01:40:13.830 --> 01:40:22.650 But also, and for the moment, they are on paid leave and their departments have 01:40:22.650 --> 01:40:25.830 been instructed to figure out the right way to actually fire them. 01:40:26.410 --> 01:40:30.330 But they also put out a notice to all federal agencies. 01:40:30.330 --> 01:40:33.470 And it was a different notice at each agency, but they basically were the same, 01:40:34.270 --> 01:40:42.030 telling people that sometimes people try to do DEI under other names and to 01:40:42.030 --> 01:40:46.550 please, if you see any of this happening, report it. 01:40:46.810 --> 01:40:50.730 And they gave an email and a phone number and blah, blah, blah, 01:40:51.110 --> 01:40:52.450 which apparently- Let me ask a question. 01:40:52.750 --> 01:40:55.130 Did they explain what they mean by DEI? 01:40:56.770 --> 01:41:00.750 I could get up one of these particular notices. I don't think so. 01:41:00.910 --> 01:41:04.930 But basically, look, what they're actually targeting is actually far wider. 01:41:05.110 --> 01:41:08.290 I've seen reports that they're also like shutting down all affinity groups. 01:41:08.810 --> 01:41:11.090 Like if you have like, yes, that is correct. 01:41:11.270 --> 01:41:11.410 Yes. 01:41:11.570 --> 01:41:15.230 Like, you know, women engineers working at NASA or something. 01:41:15.370 --> 01:41:18.830 Sorry. No, you're done. You can't have that group anymore. 01:41:19.630 --> 01:41:24.730 And all of this kind of stuff, because basically, look, and Yvonne, 01:41:24.890 --> 01:41:27.930 I'll let you in a second, because you did it well on our Slack. 01:41:27.930 --> 01:41:33.050 But, and I have another pointer to somebody else who did it well, but the, 01:41:34.460 --> 01:41:40.720 What they mean by DEI quite clearly, regardless of what it really is, 01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:46.020 what they mean quite clearly is hiring anybody who's not a straight white male. 01:41:46.340 --> 01:41:47.160 That's right. 01:41:48.080 --> 01:41:54.160 You know, well, if, you know, basically that's what should be there. 01:41:54.380 --> 01:42:00.920 And if you're not that, then you're a DEI hire. You're a DEI hire. You're a woman. 01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:05.040 You're black. You're a minority. You're Hispanic. panic, you're a DEI hire. 01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:09.020 And look, they mischaracterize routinely. 01:42:09.300 --> 01:42:14.920 And this is like, like you said, it's all about finding people's prejudices and exploiting them. 01:42:15.580 --> 01:42:20.300 They've tried to characterize this as, you know, the DEI stuff, 01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:22.980 by the way, and you can have an argument on affirmative action, 01:42:23.140 --> 01:42:25.460 affirmative action too, but this isn't even old school. 01:42:26.160 --> 01:42:27.560 This is not affirmative action. 01:42:28.540 --> 01:42:35.400 But they mischaracterize it from top to bottom as hiring unqualified people 01:42:35.400 --> 01:42:40.320 just because of their race or ethnicity in order to be woke. 01:42:40.740 --> 01:42:42.620 And that's how they characterize everything. 01:42:43.080 --> 01:42:49.100 And it's got, it isn't. I mean, the main thrust of diversity, 01:42:49.500 --> 01:42:52.820 equity, and inclusion, as it's clearly spelled out, 01:42:53.060 --> 01:42:56.720 is to root out one of the biggest problems that happens in hiring processes, 01:42:56.940 --> 01:43:03.720 which is that qualified candidates that are of groups outside of, 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:06.500 you know, say you're a white manager. 01:43:07.180 --> 01:43:13.240 And so you get like a whole bunch of like, you wind up hiring amongst your friends and, 01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:17.900 And maybe all the people that you know are only, and I'll go, 01:43:18.120 --> 01:43:22.980 I'll give a more different example, bring an example to myself, 01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:27.800 a white Hispanic, okay, all right, I went to business school, 01:43:28.120 --> 01:43:33.900 okay, the number of women that were in business school was very small, 01:43:34.280 --> 01:43:38.720 okay, so one of the things that would happen, and I almost, all the people I 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:42.940 knew exclusively for those jobs were men, okay? 01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:48.440 The thing about it is, okay, when you're going to go do an interview process 01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:53.060 is to make sure you're not just interviewing your fucking white male friends. 01:43:53.360 --> 01:43:58.700 It's to go and say, hey, let's make sure that we source a diverse candidate 01:43:58.700 --> 01:44:06.120 pool of people so you're not just looking at your old boy network and you interview across the board, 01:44:06.240 --> 01:44:08.600 all sorts of, you know, a good subset. 01:44:09.380 --> 01:44:14.800 To make sure that you are being inclusive of who you're being hiring to make the final selection. 01:44:15.120 --> 01:44:20.500 And one of the things that I did, especially, actually more relevant, 01:44:20.660 --> 01:44:23.860 in tech sales, I will say, which this was the one that was more important. 01:44:24.620 --> 01:44:27.400 Is that by doing that, because so many of the people historically, 01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:31.900 tech sales, extremely male dominated. Okay? Very much. 01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:35.860 You know, so we sourced a whole bunch of female candidates. Okay? 01:44:36.460 --> 01:44:40.100 And, you know, we wound up picking up a whole bunch of female candidates because 01:44:40.100 --> 01:44:42.400 when we sourced those female candidates, we found, holy shit, 01:44:42.480 --> 01:44:46.600 these are some very qualified women that probably, if we didn't spend the time 01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:48.780 looking for them, we wouldn't have hired, okay? 01:44:49.300 --> 01:44:54.580 And, by the way, they turned out to be the best fucking salespeople consistently. 01:44:56.260 --> 01:45:01.240 And if it wasn't that we went and, like, made that pool purposely, 01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:06.620 you know, bigger to give them a chance to interview for the job, 01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:08.900 then you wouldn't have done it. 01:45:09.040 --> 01:45:14.580 Because, man, I remember one thing that kept happening, especially recruiters and HR suck. 01:45:14.980 --> 01:45:19.400 Okay, and almost every company, they're terrible. The new systems that they 01:45:19.400 --> 01:45:21.200 have for apical tracking or whatever. 01:45:21.660 --> 01:45:29.920 Look, man, I honestly, me as a manager, got so frustrated because what I got through them was shit. 01:45:30.380 --> 01:45:40.200 I got so, such a stream of like limited pool of bad applicants, not qualified. 01:45:40.380 --> 01:45:42.240 And I'm just like, don't have the qualifications. 01:45:42.660 --> 01:45:49.420 And I saw how so many managers would get frustrated because they would post a job. 01:45:49.740 --> 01:45:52.960 They're like, okay, they're doing their job. Most managers, by the way, 01:45:53.020 --> 01:45:54.460 hate doing the hiring process. 01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:59.460 My experience, 90% of the people, they got an open job, stays open a long time. 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.220 They're like, oh my God, I got to interview people. I got to do this. 01:46:02.340 --> 01:46:04.120 I got to whatever. I don't have the time for this horseshit. 01:46:05.060 --> 01:46:08.140 So I will wind up getting like a couple of bullshit candidates. 01:46:08.160 --> 01:46:11.100 And I'm like, okay, look, give me the whole fucking stack of resumes. 01:46:11.240 --> 01:46:14.920 I want to see who that fuck is being filtered by this stupid system. Okay. 01:46:15.180 --> 01:46:18.320 And all of a sudden I kept seeing a lot of more qualified people. 01:46:18.460 --> 01:46:19.660 The stupid system kept rejecting. 01:46:20.160 --> 01:46:23.460 And I'm just like, what the fuck? So no, I'd start putting, okay, 01:46:23.540 --> 01:46:25.120 let's put together a pool of people. 01:46:25.240 --> 01:46:29.300 Look, you got these people, you got, and all of a sudden you wind up with a diverse pool of people. 01:46:29.420 --> 01:46:31.820 You wind up interviewing and all of a sudden you're like, holy shit, 01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:33.860 look at these people and stupid systems left out. 01:46:33.940 --> 01:46:37.780 The recruiters kept bringing me shit when inside those resumes, 01:46:37.780 --> 01:46:41.780 there was a stack of very qualified people, diverse people. 01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:44.180 And you had a pool to choose. 01:46:45.060 --> 01:46:50.860 And, you know, you wind up with a team that is diverse. 01:46:51.280 --> 01:46:55.640 You wound up looking at candidates who you didn't consider. You wind up hiring 01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.340 people that many times wind up surprising you. 01:46:58.460 --> 01:47:03.080 You know, like I said, 15 years ago, stereotype all the tech salespeople are 01:47:03.080 --> 01:47:05.900 women. Man, you know what? Such a horseshit stereotype. 01:47:06.950 --> 01:47:11.890 I mean, it's like so many of them are great. But it was a stereotype back then. 01:47:11.970 --> 01:47:14.110 It was like it was a male-dominated profession. Okay. 01:47:14.230 --> 01:47:15.490 You said women, but yeah. 01:47:16.390 --> 01:47:19.870 Yeah, but it was, yeah, no. But it's like it was such a male-dominated profession. 01:47:20.790 --> 01:47:27.550 And, you know, getting them in the door to be presented, qualified, 01:47:27.830 --> 01:47:30.550 whereas before we didn't bring them to the table. 01:47:31.370 --> 01:47:35.530 And that's the whole thing about the EI. It's to bring qualified people to the 01:47:35.530 --> 01:47:38.530 table to get a look. that you get a diverse look. 01:47:38.950 --> 01:47:43.470 Not that you hire, because they're thinking more about a front of an action 01:47:43.470 --> 01:47:45.510 in the old way where they're in some places where there are, 01:47:45.670 --> 01:47:48.630 oh, well, we have to have quotas. 01:47:48.930 --> 01:47:52.550 And that's not what this is doing. But they frame it as that. 01:47:52.590 --> 01:47:57.970 And it's more than that too. It's not just hiring. It's also post-hire, 01:47:58.370 --> 01:48:04.170 making sure the environment isn't exclusionary, making sure that people understand 01:48:04.170 --> 01:48:05.110 the diversity of people out there. 01:48:05.110 --> 01:48:07.770 Yeah, once you get them in the door, exactly. That you're not, 01:48:07.990 --> 01:48:11.910 you know, like, I mean, totally, 100%. 01:48:12.690 --> 01:48:17.190 That, you know, people have so many different needs. 01:48:17.770 --> 01:48:22.830 They come from so many different backgrounds. Make sure that you're respectful of all of those things. 01:48:23.770 --> 01:48:26.610 You know, I mean, it's so important, you know. 01:48:27.450 --> 01:48:32.470 And I know that I remember when I was, like, younger, coming into a career, 01:48:32.470 --> 01:48:38.210 that probably a lot, we did probably a lot more things that were some people, 01:48:38.470 --> 01:48:42.250 for example, having a happy hour, okay? 01:48:42.490 --> 01:48:44.890 Bringing people alcohol. There's a number of people that don't drink. 01:48:45.190 --> 01:48:45.650 Right? 01:48:46.910 --> 01:48:50.590 And they don't feel comfortable with that environment as that being the only 01:48:50.590 --> 01:48:54.990 social type of interaction that there is for the group, for example. 01:48:55.350 --> 01:48:57.950 I mean, if you don't drink, you'll wind up feeling uncomfortable. 01:48:58.470 --> 01:49:01.330 And so making sure that you 01:49:01.330 --> 01:49:05.150 bring people together to do something that that isn't the only social event 01:49:05.150 --> 01:49:10.230 that the the events that the company's having aren't just alcohol you know booze 01:49:10.230 --> 01:49:15.070 fests is important right for example and it's something that 20 plus years ago 01:49:15.070 --> 01:49:18.970 we didn't give a shit about that's inclusion well. 01:49:18.970 --> 01:49:24.370 Yeah 20 20 plus years ago it wasn't just like you know you you go out and drinks 01:49:24.370 --> 01:49:27.650 you know you go do drinks at the strip club, you know? 01:49:27.830 --> 01:49:28.050 Yes. 01:49:28.490 --> 01:49:29.050 Correct. 01:49:30.470 --> 01:49:33.730 And, you know, drag the women along. 01:49:35.660 --> 01:49:38.680 Some that didn't want to go. Some wanted to go. But some that didn't want to 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:41.940 go. And they felt like this is, you know. 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:50.660 And by the way, some that didn't want to go but felt like they had to act like they did want to go. 01:49:51.160 --> 01:49:56.000 Exactly. Yeah. I'm saying this because I've been invited to strip clubs by women. 01:49:56.180 --> 01:49:59.440 So that's not told yet. I'm sorry to tell you that that doesn't work that way. 01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:01.300 I understand. I'm just saying. 01:50:01.300 --> 01:50:03.100 But at a work environment. 01:50:03.340 --> 01:50:06.880 If you're doing that, the whole thing about the work environment. 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:10.440 The people feel pressured. Yes, they don't feel like they have freedom of decision. 01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:14.160 Yes, there's a reason they call it mandatory fun. 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:19.820 Because people don't feel like they really have the option to opt out. 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:26.140 I mean, maybe even they technically could opt out, but then they feel like if 01:50:26.140 --> 01:50:31.080 they do, there will be negative consequences to them. maybe not explicit negative 01:50:31.080 --> 01:50:35.520 consequences, but if you're not in the club, you're not going to get some sort of benefits. 01:50:35.740 --> 01:50:39.780 People aren't going to think about you as much people, you know, all this kind of stuff. 01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:43.040 And, uh, so DEI includes all that kind of stuff too. 01:50:43.180 --> 01:50:50.680 It includes like being sensitive to, Oh, this guy has these particular rigid 01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:52.780 religious restrictions that you should think of. 01:50:52.780 --> 01:50:53.700 Correct. Yeah. 01:50:53.700 --> 01:50:55.740 No, this, this person. 01:50:55.960 --> 01:50:59.860 Oh, it's not just Merry Christmas, motherfucker. You know, for example. 01:51:00.200 --> 01:51:05.980 This person was a vet who has PTSD. And so maybe don't go dropping things around 01:51:05.980 --> 01:51:07.820 him or you're sneaking up behind. 01:51:07.820 --> 01:51:11.180 Let's not go to a gun range for fun. 01:51:11.740 --> 01:51:16.480 You know, like there are all kinds of things. And basically, it's really all about, 01:51:16.700 --> 01:51:27.960 hey, let's be thoughtful and actively try to combat our own internal unspoken 01:51:27.960 --> 01:51:30.280 prejudices and make sure we're being fair. 01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:37.060 And so that is anathema to the current Republican Party. 01:51:37.060 --> 01:51:41.200 A hundred percent, a hundred percent, you know, totally a hundred percent. 01:51:41.380 --> 01:51:45.640 And it's a thing of like letting, letting the team really be to a lot of times, 01:51:45.820 --> 01:51:49.680 like within reason, be the driver of what the, the activities that, 01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:52.980 that are being done and so forth and make sure that they, you know, 01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:54.780 that you carefully consider that, 01:51:55.240 --> 01:52:00.320 that, you know, they, they are, you know, they, you know, that they are inclusive. Okay. 01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:04.680 And it's something that I flat out, I know 20 plus years ago, 01:52:04.820 --> 01:52:06.200 we couldn't give two flying fucks about. 01:52:07.370 --> 01:52:10.250 And and I worked in an environment that many times that maybe, 01:52:10.270 --> 01:52:16.070 you know, I know that the women I work with know that more because they've known me for this long. 01:52:16.390 --> 01:52:20.110 They know that they weren't being pressured into it. But it was that wasn't 01:52:20.110 --> 01:52:22.870 like their favorite. That wasn't what they really wanted to go to. 01:52:23.610 --> 01:52:26.450 OK. And, you know, because it was almost all of our friends. 01:52:26.550 --> 01:52:29.850 But they were like, yes, I prefer to do something else. 01:52:29.990 --> 01:52:34.730 But but we know that you were like, OK, well, you know, but that was the learning experience. 01:52:34.730 --> 01:52:37.510 Well, that's the whole thing with this kind of thing as well. 01:52:37.810 --> 01:52:44.050 It is in many cases, and this applies not for all of these groups and all of these sensitivities, 01:52:44.250 --> 01:52:49.730 it's not necessarily something that the person is going to say no to or even 01:52:49.730 --> 01:52:51.770 immediately be offended by, 01:52:51.970 --> 01:52:57.310 but it sort of wears them down over time because they're being asked to do something 01:52:57.310 --> 01:53:01.030 or the whole microaggression thing, right? 01:53:01.030 --> 01:53:07.850 You're constantly over time doing small little things that none of them on their 01:53:07.850 --> 01:53:10.570 own are necessarily like a big deal. 01:53:10.990 --> 01:53:15.570 But when you add them all up, are creating an environment that is hostile. 01:53:16.330 --> 01:53:20.470 Yes. And the one thing is that thankfully we didn't have, you know, 01:53:20.510 --> 01:53:26.350 the only reason I know is because most of these people that I work with like 01:53:26.350 --> 01:53:28.090 early in my career are friends to this day. 01:53:28.090 --> 01:53:31.710 That I know at least, thank God, we didn't have an environment of microaggressions, 01:53:31.750 --> 01:53:35.590 but we did things that for the people that didn't, that weren't, 01:53:35.870 --> 01:53:40.990 knew us very well, they just weren't inclusive, okay? 01:53:41.290 --> 01:53:49.170 It made it that, you know, that new members, they didn't, it's uncomfortable. 01:53:49.610 --> 01:53:53.930 So, you know, but you learn, you evolve, and those are the things that you learn now. 01:53:54.130 --> 01:53:58.710 And that's the whole, but it's the whole point about the DEI. It's to teach... 01:53:59.250 --> 01:54:04.370 About this stuff. It's not about hiring some unqualified minority. 01:54:04.770 --> 01:54:08.710 It has nothing to do with it. It has nothing to do with it. 01:54:09.590 --> 01:54:15.470 But the GOP has weaponized it into hiring unqualified minorities. 01:54:15.670 --> 01:54:20.110 Right. But to be fair, that's the wrong way to say it. 01:54:20.210 --> 01:54:23.690 You're absolutely right. It's weaponized about hiring unqualified people. 01:54:23.930 --> 01:54:29.790 But also, even if it was just about what we just said about like being sensitive 01:54:29.790 --> 01:54:31.770 to other people's needs and concerns. 01:54:32.570 --> 01:54:35.430 That's like weak, woke bullshit, right? 01:54:35.710 --> 01:54:37.110 Yes. That's weak, woke bullshit. Yes. 01:54:37.550 --> 01:54:43.330 You know? And so the other thing to point out is over and over again, 01:54:43.550 --> 01:54:46.630 people have found out when they've really looked into this, 01:54:47.250 --> 01:54:54.050 that when you are inclusive and when you get a wider variety of people, Okay. 01:54:54.590 --> 01:54:58.690 Sorry, tangent. I have to say this too. Another thing that people do all the 01:54:58.690 --> 01:55:04.490 time is talk about like this candidate is a diverse candidate and stuff like 01:55:04.490 --> 01:55:06.470 that drives me absolutely nuts. 01:55:06.990 --> 01:55:10.890 It is the first candidate. It's like, it's not a diverse candidate or candidate 01:55:10.890 --> 01:55:13.110 pools that you make that are diverse. It's not a. 01:55:13.550 --> 01:55:18.870 Yes. Yeah. Because people have effectively, that is changing the word diverse 01:55:18.870 --> 01:55:22.690 into meaning minority that's getting some privilege. 01:55:22.950 --> 01:55:30.470 Which is not what it is at all. The point of diversity is diversity in the group 01:55:30.470 --> 01:55:31.670 of people you're looking at. 01:55:31.850 --> 01:55:34.970 It's basically saying diversity is a strength. 01:55:35.450 --> 01:55:38.770 The wider variety of people you have working on things, which, 01:55:39.090 --> 01:55:42.630 yes, includes race, includes ethnicity, 01:55:42.970 --> 01:55:47.110 includes gender, includes sexual orientation, but also, by the way, 01:55:47.570 --> 01:55:51.650 includes like type of education, you know? 01:55:51.890 --> 01:55:52.070 Right. 01:55:52.250 --> 01:56:00.110 Yes. What job history prior to the current job, like veterans versus civilians, 01:56:00.470 --> 01:56:06.690 people who, you know, do you have people that at one time in their life actually did work retail jobs? 01:56:06.950 --> 01:56:13.210 Or do you only have like trust fund people who jumped straight into college in a high paying job? 01:56:13.570 --> 01:56:15.390 Yeah. You know, there's a difference. 01:56:15.490 --> 01:56:15.990 Very much so. 01:56:16.130 --> 01:56:22.150 You know, all of this kind of stuff matters and it is not, you do not have, you know, 01:56:22.650 --> 01:56:25.810 this person is diverse. This person does that. 01:56:25.910 --> 01:56:31.410 No, it's, you are looking for diversity in your overall group of people. 01:56:31.690 --> 01:56:34.710 And the reason why, which is what I was about to say before that tangent, 01:56:35.050 --> 01:56:40.170 is that time after time, after time, people who have looked carefully into it 01:56:40.170 --> 01:56:45.190 have found that you get better results with the diverse group. 01:56:45.550 --> 01:56:46.750 Oh, a hundred percent. 01:56:46.930 --> 01:56:50.830 Because they are bringing in perspectives that 01:56:50.830 --> 01:56:54.150 you do not have if you have sort of this homogenous 01:56:54.150 --> 01:56:57.470 you're all straight white guys yeah you 01:56:57.470 --> 01:57:02.410 know or or even for that matter if you're homogenous anything else or like anything 01:57:02.410 --> 01:57:10.630 else yeah you know like it does not serve you to have a group that has the in 01:57:10.630 --> 01:57:16.390 entirely the same viewpoint entirely the same background, entirely, 01:57:16.950 --> 01:57:23.270 the more variety you get, the better your results in the end, 01:57:23.270 --> 01:57:29.650 because you look at things in those different ways, you get to hash out the results, etc. 01:57:30.030 --> 01:57:37.290 Assuming, by the way, the diversity itself is not enough, you also have to have a environment, 01:57:38.230 --> 01:57:43.690 that is trusting enough that all of those people actually get a say and can 01:57:43.690 --> 01:57:46.370 express themselves and you can actually have those conversations. 01:57:46.370 --> 01:57:47.810 Well, I think that's the most important. 01:57:47.990 --> 01:57:52.950 If you have the diversity, but then you have a top-down, like what we were saying 01:57:52.950 --> 01:57:59.910 with, you know, just obey orders mentality, then none of that helps at all anyway. 01:58:00.050 --> 01:58:03.230 Well, that part is the crucial part of that, 01:58:03.410 --> 01:58:07.310 is to have the environment that really fosters that 01:58:07.310 --> 01:58:14.130 open communication amongst people and that is is a good working environment 01:58:14.130 --> 01:58:26.470 okay and so i i i now i have had the the the great fortune of for the most part working in pretty, 01:58:28.550 --> 01:58:33.650 diverse environments, you know, for most of my career. 01:58:34.210 --> 01:58:39.830 And I, you know, many times I think, especially when I started working, 01:58:40.730 --> 01:58:44.030 you know, I think especially that diversity, 01:58:45.030 --> 01:58:51.910 opened my eyes about when I was younger about some preconceptions that I had 01:58:51.910 --> 01:58:56.210 that were misplaced about who knows what or whatever. 01:58:57.070 --> 01:59:03.370 And very quickly, when you have a group like that is good, it dissolves that 01:59:03.370 --> 01:59:07.970 so quickly that it makes it that you work so much better. 01:59:08.670 --> 01:59:12.910 And I think that that is the huge value of that in terms of... 01:59:14.390 --> 01:59:22.130 Getting people get over some pre-held stereotype that they have about a group 01:59:22.130 --> 01:59:24.310 of people. I'll give you a great example of one. 01:59:24.630 --> 01:59:25.910 I forgot earlier. 01:59:25.930 --> 01:59:26.370 You heard that. 01:59:26.790 --> 01:59:30.930 I forgot when I was listing things earlier, country of origin, 01:59:31.130 --> 01:59:34.610 language. There's so many different things you can think of. 01:59:34.710 --> 01:59:37.870 Yeah. I remember, look, one of the best examples. 01:59:39.890 --> 01:59:43.770 And this is something that got thrown around so much when I was younger. 01:59:44.270 --> 01:59:49.670 Yeah, you've been lazy Mexicans, lazy Mexicans, lazy Mexicans, 01:59:50.210 --> 01:59:51.650 Mexicans are so fucking late. 01:59:51.850 --> 01:59:57.190 You know, you hurt growing up. I'm sure you heard talk about how the Mexicans are so lazy. 01:59:57.730 --> 01:59:58.410 Right? Yeah. 02:00:00.050 --> 02:00:03.230 So so I mean, I'd heard about this. I never worked with Mexicans, 02:00:03.330 --> 02:00:04.890 but it's something that gets told in your head. 02:00:05.390 --> 02:00:08.710 So you think I think first time I'm going to go to a business trip to Mexico 02:00:08.710 --> 02:00:12.490 City, I'm expecting people knock off work early. You're not going to be that hardcore, whatever. 02:00:13.770 --> 02:00:17.270 Listen went to the hp mexico 02:00:17.270 --> 02:00:21.590 office first time is in the summer of 97 internship those 02:00:21.590 --> 02:00:26.110 fuckers got there at eight in the morning on the dot and they at the 8 p.m at 02:00:26.110 --> 02:00:32.210 night that office was still packed with people barely anybody had left i've 02:00:32.210 --> 02:00:37.450 never seen it i've never seen an office with people working their ass off more 02:00:37.450 --> 02:00:40.570 than at that office literally packed at 8 p.m, 02:00:41.710 --> 02:00:48.590 and i was like holy fuck how could people say that these people are lazy where the fuck, 02:00:49.590 --> 02:00:54.210 could i mean and and it's just one of those things that quickly showed me how, 02:00:54.790 --> 02:01:00.770 a stereotype just gets thrown around about people that's just complete bullshit 02:01:00.770 --> 02:01:07.890 right and that was a real eye opener for me i'll tell you that one and i was 02:01:07.890 --> 02:01:11.890 like that really to me i was like I learned from that one. 02:01:12.190 --> 02:01:15.070 Anything you heard about any country, about anybody, how it works and their 02:01:15.070 --> 02:01:19.050 work culture, just throw it in the garbage because it's just bullshit. 02:01:19.610 --> 02:01:22.130 Immediately that was like in the dustbin immediately. 02:01:23.530 --> 02:01:29.130 Yes. Yeah. I mean, and the reality is, and this is true generally when doing 02:01:29.130 --> 02:01:33.310 group comparisons is the difference between individuals swamps, 02:01:33.350 --> 02:01:35.050 any sort of global difference anyway, 02:01:35.890 --> 02:01:42.010 you know, if, if you, and the global differences are usually tiny, minor, random, 02:01:42.530 --> 02:01:46.090 like, or due to something other than, you know, 02:01:46.370 --> 02:01:49.110 like the pernicious thing is people assume it's sort 02:01:49.110 --> 02:01:54.390 of like any differences you see are due to some internalized 02:01:54.390 --> 02:01:57.210 well let's put it right out people think it's 02:01:57.210 --> 02:02:00.670 genetic people think it's like oh this yeah group is dumb 02:02:00.670 --> 02:02:03.810 this ethnic group is smart this ethnic 02:02:03.810 --> 02:02:09.930 group is lazy this or whatever and it's not and the reality is any differences 02:02:09.930 --> 02:02:16.650 like that have ever been looked at tend to first be swamped by individual differences 02:02:16.650 --> 02:02:20.850 so are not meaningful at all when you're looking at individuals that you're interacting with. 02:02:21.490 --> 02:02:29.990 And second, have readily explainable alternate explanations related to infrastructure, 02:02:30.550 --> 02:02:33.090 education, previous bias, 02:02:33.790 --> 02:02:37.450 you know, people, all kinds of opportunities that weren't available, 02:02:37.970 --> 02:02:43.250 all kinds of other things, as opposed to being like, this group has some property 02:02:43.250 --> 02:02:46.530 that just doesn't seem to really exist so. 02:02:46.530 --> 02:02:53.890 Well what listen i i think that one of the things that i you know is one of 02:02:53.890 --> 02:02:56.450 the most difficult ones to explain to people in the, 02:02:57.580 --> 02:03:02.440 in management positions in the U S that had never worked outside the U S they 02:03:02.440 --> 02:03:06.480 kept thinking that sales outside the U S of product A, B or C. 02:03:06.660 --> 02:03:10.500 Oh my, well, it's so different over there. You guys don't understand. 02:03:11.380 --> 02:03:14.880 And I'm like, it is the biggest utter bullshit there. 02:03:15.020 --> 02:03:21.980 What are the realities is about the last 21st century is that the differences 02:03:21.980 --> 02:03:28.520 really between the, the knowledge of the products, the sales process, 02:03:28.740 --> 02:03:29.740 the transaction, whatever, 02:03:30.180 --> 02:03:35.340 are actually far less than what the people are. 02:03:35.500 --> 02:03:39.400 That the interactions and how people work and how they buy products across the 02:03:39.400 --> 02:03:45.240 globe are far more similar, especially than you will ever believe. 02:03:45.480 --> 02:03:49.580 And that the differences in terms of sometimes just local work culture have 02:03:49.580 --> 02:03:53.640 sometimes to do just with like laws and certain things or just how, 02:03:53.840 --> 02:03:59.620 you know, Well, like in the EU, for example, they're far more strict about working hours. 02:04:00.700 --> 02:04:02.060 Okay? People staying late. 02:04:03.060 --> 02:04:07.720 In the Netherlands, if you stayed late, they actually would put a monitor on 02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:12.100 you for health and wellness to make sure that they put this very cumbersome 02:04:12.100 --> 02:04:16.800 one in order to make sure that you were okay at your desk, 02:04:16.980 --> 02:04:18.900 that nothing happened, okay? All right? 02:04:19.060 --> 02:04:22.640 Because they just didn't want you to stay working late, you know? 02:04:22.640 --> 02:04:25.540 You know the work day's done go go go right 02:04:25.540 --> 02:04:28.460 so so but if you did well well then you know we've got 02:04:28.460 --> 02:04:31.460 some you know some cumbersome monitor 02:04:31.460 --> 02:04:34.580 to make sure we're gonna check on you yes not unlike the 02:04:34.580 --> 02:04:37.460 u.s where i can't remember where the hell it was i think it was a wells fargo 02:04:37.460 --> 02:04:40.540 or some other company where the lady died it was dead for like four yeah they 02:04:40.540 --> 02:04:44.020 didn't notice for three or four days now over there they're like no no we're 02:04:44.020 --> 02:04:47.100 gonna put a monitor make sure that you're safe and if you haven't exited by 02:04:47.100 --> 02:04:51.640 a certain time security's coming around so so those are more to the different things, 02:04:51.760 --> 02:04:56.100 but my thing is that things are far more similar than they are different. 02:04:57.040 --> 02:05:01.300 And that's the reality. So anyway, all right. We've beaten everything to death. 02:05:01.580 --> 02:05:06.520 I just want to wrap up in a couple of ways. One, I had mentioned another person 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:09.160 who had summarized the DEI stuff nicely, I thought. 02:05:09.940 --> 02:05:13.400 Christy Coulter, who was once a guest on this show a few years back. 02:05:13.700 --> 02:05:19.360 K-R-I-S-T-I Coulter. C-O-U-L-T-E-R. 02:05:19.560 --> 02:05:22.660 Made a Facebook post yesterday, I think it was. 02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:25.680 Anyway, it's public. It's available to the web. 02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:30.560 Basically what I was saying, that people keep confusing affirmative action. 02:05:30.820 --> 02:05:34.600 It says here, I think a lot of people have DEI confused with affirmative action, 02:05:34.600 --> 02:05:36.020 but they have largely separate things. 02:05:36.120 --> 02:05:38.140 When you think quotas, preferential, higher, and legal mandates, 02:05:38.300 --> 02:05:39.500 you're thinking about AA. 02:05:41.400 --> 02:05:46.420 But her post goes on for quite a bit and goes into a lot of detail on a bunch 02:05:46.420 --> 02:05:49.020 of different things. Very articulate, very well done. 02:05:49.400 --> 02:05:52.860 I mean, she is a writer, so of course it is. 02:05:53.480 --> 02:05:55.060 A writer who writes always. 02:05:55.060 --> 02:05:59.500 Yeah, she is, but worth reading, go, go search for it. 02:06:00.140 --> 02:06:06.140 And yeah, so that, and then also just finally the, in terms of the DEI stuff, 02:06:06.140 --> 02:06:08.160 actually helping and helping with good results. 02:06:08.400 --> 02:06:12.520 You know, I was thinking on the one hand for, you know, to Donald Trump and 02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:16.720 the feds, you know, okay, well getting rid of this, they'll eventually regret 02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:19.620 it because not as good results. But then I realized, no, no, no. 02:06:20.120 --> 02:06:25.100 Because again, they're not looking for the best results out of these agencies. 02:06:25.480 --> 02:06:31.560 A, they don't want the agencies to succeed anyway. They don't believe in most of these agencies. 02:06:31.740 --> 02:06:34.940 Maybe Department of Defense is an exception or whatever. 02:06:35.160 --> 02:06:42.760 But even there, again, this is the difference in culture. The culture is the culture of obeying. 02:06:43.060 --> 02:06:48.900 The measurement is not, do you get the best results on some sort of objective scale? 02:06:48.900 --> 02:06:52.680 The measure is did you 02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:55.760 jump as quickly and as 02:06:55.760 --> 02:07:04.680 high as the boss told you to that's it that's the only measure and on that scale 02:07:04.680 --> 02:07:11.800 having a bunch of clones who agree with you 100 percent probably is the best 02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:14.300 way to get that result look. 02:07:14.300 --> 02:07:18.900 The one thing is but again it's not even results it's like whether you could, 02:07:19.700 --> 02:07:23.900 convince them that you actually did something that you didn't even do look, 02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:26.920 it's the entire smoke and mirrors thing, 02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:31.240 it's not about facts or substance, 02:07:32.280 --> 02:07:36.120 It's about how you can bullshit and whether your bullshit is believable. 02:07:36.560 --> 02:07:40.720 Well, yeah, but in the specific case of people working for you in the workflow, 02:07:41.900 --> 02:07:47.220 in the workforce, in the federal workforce, one of Trump's biggest frustrations 02:07:47.220 --> 02:07:50.620 in his first term was he would say, 02:07:50.900 --> 02:07:57.340 I want X, Y, Z to happen, and it wouldn't happen because of institutional inertia and resistance. 02:07:57.560 --> 02:08:03.880 And he wants to blow through that. Yeah, but here's what I'm trying to tell you, okay, all right. 02:08:04.580 --> 02:08:10.880 One of the things that I'm realizing as we're going through this is that, 02:08:11.020 --> 02:08:15.160 Sam, it doesn't even matter that you did it or not. 02:08:15.300 --> 02:08:16.500 I know, I know. 02:08:16.520 --> 02:08:22.740 No, no, no. Exactly. Because the reality is, I've experienced in corporate America, 02:08:22.980 --> 02:08:29.380 how many times have I seen people that got promoted, not because they actually did anything, 02:08:29.720 --> 02:08:35.420 but because they sold very well that they did something that wasn't done. 02:08:35.740 --> 02:08:42.520 So in order to succeed in this administration, the problem is that to these 02:08:42.520 --> 02:08:45.820 people, the truth is a problem. 02:08:45.840 --> 02:08:48.580 Because you get told to do something. 02:08:48.860 --> 02:08:51.980 What you get told to do is impossible to do, right? 02:08:52.280 --> 02:08:57.260 So you report back that, okay, I told them to do this, right? Okay. 02:08:57.620 --> 02:08:59.620 You know, I told them to open the valve. 02:09:00.940 --> 02:09:01.420 Yes. 02:09:01.580 --> 02:09:05.880 Okay. Mr. President, we couldn't open the valve. Trump gets pissed. 02:09:06.200 --> 02:09:11.500 Well, no, you can't do that. What you have to do is, sir, the valve's been opened. 02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:12.480 We're good. 02:09:13.700 --> 02:09:18.740 You could go ahead and tell people the valves been open and the problem's been 02:09:18.740 --> 02:09:22.760 solved okay right and you do something else to whatever to make it like smoke 02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:28.300 and beer or whatever this is where we get into trouble sam because so much of 02:09:28.300 --> 02:09:30.180 what he asked for is impossible to do, 02:09:30.940 --> 02:09:37.620 so it turns you into just basically just having to see how well you can lie yes. 02:09:37.620 --> 02:09:44.040 Impossible and or obviously destructive and or whatever. But yeah, you're right. 02:09:44.400 --> 02:09:47.060 But so many of them are impossible too, Sam. 02:09:47.340 --> 02:09:47.800 Yeah, no. 02:09:48.120 --> 02:09:51.720 Hey, I want you to get rid of like 10 million people by next week. 02:09:52.140 --> 02:09:55.300 Okay, you can't get rid of 10 million people by next week. 02:09:55.760 --> 02:09:58.160 But maybe you can convince them. 02:09:59.420 --> 02:10:04.960 Send him a whole bunch of pictures of some loaded planes and places with a whole bunch of people. 02:10:05.280 --> 02:10:10.100 And you're like, Donald, we're getting the job done. Look at this. Look at this. 02:10:10.280 --> 02:10:17.560 Well, and the one thing that we can say is that this last election proved all that works. 02:10:18.080 --> 02:10:18.660 Yes. 02:10:18.980 --> 02:10:23.400 It's the impression that matters, not the reality. 02:10:24.020 --> 02:10:24.380 Correct. 02:10:24.380 --> 02:10:30.580 You know and god help you if you're still you. 02:10:30.580 --> 02:10:31.420 Tell the truth. 02:10:31.420 --> 02:10:34.500 Yeah if you tell the truth if you're still stuck on 02:10:34.500 --> 02:10:37.680 like i want to pick the policy that's 02:10:37.680 --> 02:10:41.160 going to have the actual best result and oh by the way it's going to take 10 02:10:41.160 --> 02:10:47.420 to 15 years for the results to happen i mean if you if you're working to make 02:10:47.420 --> 02:10:52.780 those things happen great but you can't you have to sell it on the illusion 02:10:52.780 --> 02:10:55.480 anyway it's like yes it's. 02:10:55.480 --> 02:10:59.140 That that's the problem sam this is the situation where they're where they're 02:10:59.140 --> 02:11:04.160 in it doesn't fucking listen the many like i said you know they have to just 02:11:04.160 --> 02:11:07.820 become complete and utter bullshit artists. 02:11:07.820 --> 02:11:10.580 Well and the thing is at this 02:11:10.580 --> 02:11:14.080 point the best you can hope for is the 02:11:14.080 --> 02:11:16.940 bullshit artist that's still behind the scenes 02:11:16.940 --> 02:11:22.660 wants to do something that's useful as opposed to the bullshit artist who actually 02:11:22.660 --> 02:11:27.420 just wants to enrich themselves and that's it you know i don't know i i feel 02:11:27.420 --> 02:11:33.400 like there's still some folks on the democratic side of things who are trying 02:11:33.400 --> 02:11:36.840 to be honest and do the right thing but i worry that it doesn't work, 02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:40.900 you know that well. 02:11:40.900 --> 02:11:44.840 I i do think look why and i we we need to wrap up at some. 02:11:44.840 --> 02:11:45.720 Point is getting like. 02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:50.080 A log out or log. But what I had said to you, what I had said on Slack this 02:11:50.080 --> 02:11:56.400 week is that you need to, listen, the change has to be a change in mentality 02:11:56.400 --> 02:11:58.920 towards, like I said earlier about scorched earth. 02:11:59.100 --> 02:12:02.720 You need to go, listen, you need to pull the Roosevelt, 02:12:04.960 --> 02:12:10.560 Franklin D. Roosevelt plan, which what the thing about that Roosevelt did that 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:16.040 was very effective was that A, he was constantly battling Congress. 02:12:16.400 --> 02:12:20.000 He was constantly, you know, he was, if you're going back into government, 02:12:20.280 --> 02:12:26.060 you have to constantly be bending the envelope, try to pack the courts, try to do this. 02:12:26.200 --> 02:12:30.020 I don't give a shit that they reversed it. You have to go scorched earth like 02:12:30.020 --> 02:12:34.460 that and you have to brand it because believe it or not that fucker hey the 02:12:34.460 --> 02:12:40.860 new deal fuck we still remember that damn name yep you need you know you need 02:12:40.860 --> 02:12:44.980 a 21st century new deal not just is what you need the package not. 02:12:44.980 --> 02:12:47.520 Just quietly do the thing and no one knows it was you. 02:12:47.520 --> 02:12:53.280 Exactly you need to do the 21st century new deal that's what you need to put 02:12:53.280 --> 02:12:56.660 you need to brand it and you need to sell it and you need to say, 02:12:57.020 --> 02:12:59.020 hey, this is what we're doing. 02:12:59.020 --> 02:13:02.300 And then you need to be aggressive and you need to say, fuck, 02:13:02.380 --> 02:13:06.200 you know, fuck, fuck, work with them, whatever we're going to do, 02:13:06.360 --> 02:13:09.600 whatever the fuck it takes. Okay. And you sell it that way. 02:13:09.960 --> 02:13:16.640 Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. And I will add one thing that is just of the various 02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:24.180 Democrats over the, since the election, only one of them has really stood out to me in terms of, 02:13:24.840 --> 02:13:28.500 seeming to do this the right way in terms of the communication. 02:13:29.360 --> 02:13:30.020 Which is? 02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:31.160 AOC. 02:13:32.180 --> 02:13:35.880 I was going to say exactly. The only one. She's the only one that gets it. 02:13:36.280 --> 02:13:40.660 Motherfucker, she's the only one that gets it. Son of a fucking bitch. 02:13:40.940 --> 02:13:42.280 She's the only one that gets it. 02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:49.440 Yeah, I mean, I look at Hakeem Jeffries and his speeches and stuff and I'm like, oh, come on. 02:13:49.660 --> 02:13:52.820 No. No, she's the only one that gets it. She's the only one that gets it. 02:13:53.440 --> 02:13:57.640 And like, you know, Yvonne and I both, when she first came on the scene, 02:13:57.840 --> 02:14:01.040 was like, ah, she's naive. She's naive. 02:14:01.660 --> 02:14:05.560 She's not doing this the right way. She's causing more problems than she's worth. 02:14:05.740 --> 02:14:08.120 She has matured so fucking much. 02:14:08.420 --> 02:14:12.380 And right now she runs circles around anybody else. 02:14:12.740 --> 02:14:13.520 Around all of them. All of them. 02:14:13.700 --> 02:14:19.620 Because she knows how to message in such a way that she's making the right point. 02:14:19.840 --> 02:14:24.280 Like you've got so many Democrats right now who are in a stupor who are like, 02:14:24.420 --> 02:14:27.140 oh, the lesson out of this election is we have to move right. 02:14:27.780 --> 02:14:31.280 We have to become more conservative to get the people in the middle. 02:14:31.340 --> 02:14:38.480 No, no, no. And it's not about moving right or left. It's about being aggressive 02:14:38.480 --> 02:14:40.240 with your fucking message. 02:14:41.180 --> 02:14:41.660 Yes. 02:14:42.570 --> 02:14:45.350 Packaging it and selling it the right way. 02:14:45.610 --> 02:14:49.890 The right answer to this is, oh, we can be aggressive to immigrants too. 02:14:50.170 --> 02:14:51.330 We can deport more people. 02:14:53.630 --> 02:14:59.170 No, this is not the right way. And yeah, she's the only one. 02:14:59.290 --> 02:15:00.870 She's the only one right now. 02:15:01.630 --> 02:15:06.090 She's the only one. She's the only fucking one. Everybody else is failing the test. 02:15:06.490 --> 02:15:12.310 And they're not taking advantage of that either. 02:15:12.570 --> 02:15:17.230 Like they're, they're threatened by her. And so, you know, they, 02:15:17.630 --> 02:15:20.170 it's the wrong approach. 02:15:20.470 --> 02:15:24.990 Like they should be taking her and saying, damn, you're good. 02:15:25.450 --> 02:15:27.730 Let's go in front of more people more. 02:15:27.870 --> 02:15:28.190 Exactly. 02:15:28.390 --> 02:15:33.210 And give you more responsibilities. Yeah. Yes. You are the face of the new democratic party. 02:15:33.350 --> 02:15:38.150 And look, honestly, on some things, she's more left than I am. 02:15:38.570 --> 02:15:42.290 And I would not agree with her on an issue by issue basis on everything. 02:15:43.030 --> 02:15:48.590 But God damn it. She knows how to get the message across and none of these other jackasses do. 02:15:48.850 --> 02:15:53.870 But, but this goes the one thing she gets me in the direction I want to go. 02:15:55.110 --> 02:16:01.370 No, you know, okay. I, I'm not, I don't, I don't need to agree with somebody on everybody. 02:16:01.510 --> 02:16:04.970 I didn't agree with Biden on everything either, but he can't get me going in the direction. 02:16:05.130 --> 02:16:07.990 I want to go. She gets me in the fucking direction. I want to go. And that's good. 02:16:08.270 --> 02:16:10.710 That's, that's more than good enough for me. That's good for, 02:16:10.790 --> 02:16:13.990 that's great for me. Okay. All right. that's what I want to do. 02:16:14.210 --> 02:16:18.690 Yeah, there was an interview with Jon Stewart in the last couple of days. 02:16:18.910 --> 02:16:24.070 I have only seen clips from it. I have not spent the time to watch the whole 02:16:24.070 --> 02:16:26.650 thing and I feel like I need to fix that. 02:16:27.550 --> 02:16:33.750 But I will, if you just Google Jon Stewart and AOC, you will find it. 02:16:33.870 --> 02:16:36.970 It's from the weekly show with Jon Stewart podcast. 02:16:38.030 --> 02:16:41.150 I'm going to put it into Cummudgeons Corner Slack as well. 02:16:42.110 --> 02:16:48.170 And yeah it it is one of many things she's posting on her own tiktoks and youtubes 02:16:48.170 --> 02:16:52.230 and stuff like that all the time as well she's just good pay attention she is 02:16:52.230 --> 02:16:57.350 she is a rising star if the democrats don't fuck it up and intentionally screw 02:16:57.350 --> 02:16:59.930 her she's i i don't know which. 02:16:59.930 --> 02:17:05.950 Direction listen listen we need we people we need to stand we need to more forcefully 02:17:05.950 --> 02:17:08.770 more of us need to stand behind her and support her, 02:17:09.250 --> 02:17:13.690 to go there that's what we need to do we need to stand up and we need to fucking 02:17:13.690 --> 02:17:19.070 say this is this this is the direction that we need to go stop with the fucking bullshit yeah period. 02:17:20.090 --> 02:17:26.810 Like I've said before, either House leadership moving to the Senate or even 02:17:26.810 --> 02:17:28.890 moving to the executive side and running for president, 02:17:29.090 --> 02:17:34.810 I don't know what she's going to do, but the Democrats make a mistake in not 02:17:34.810 --> 02:17:38.630 using her for everything they can. 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It's a lot of fun in there. 02:18:19.090 --> 02:18:22.050 Yvonne and I and a bunch of our listeners are chatting throughout the week, 02:18:22.170 --> 02:18:23.770 sharing links, all that sort of stuff. 02:18:24.270 --> 02:18:27.870 Yvonne, do you want to, do you have one to highlight for today that we have not talked about? 02:18:28.130 --> 02:18:29.510 Oh, fuck me. 02:18:37.790 --> 02:18:41.890 Well, I ha I was very happy to report on, on, 02:18:42.530 --> 02:18:46.710 on, on the random channel on Slack that with the new changes, 02:18:46.710 --> 02:18:53.690 in the in the algorithm at facebook i'm getting really the recommendations that okay really, 02:18:54.190 --> 02:18:57.630 need and so all of a sudden i'm scrolling through and 02:18:57.630 --> 02:19:00.710 i get this recommendation that says a title 02:19:00.710 --> 02:19:03.710 your relations ukrainian women know 02:19:03.710 --> 02:19:11.470 how to take care of men and some picture of some attractive blonde girl my family 02:19:11.470 --> 02:19:17.450 rations for like com for men 50 plus ukrainian women and a little fire logo 02:19:17.450 --> 02:19:23.670 on the side so uh excellent i i suck is getting you know this is straightening, 02:19:24.850 --> 02:19:26.490 definitely has the house straight in order. 02:19:26.490 --> 02:19:29.330 Indeed oh by the 02:19:29.330 --> 02:19:36.010 blue sky by the way um i'm not going to talk about this topic in whole but like 02:19:36.010 --> 02:19:42.650 i had put on the list a couple weeks ago of their their follow problem i i have 02:19:42.650 --> 02:19:47.090 been inundated in blue sky and apparently a whole bunch of other people have too oh. 02:19:47.090 --> 02:19:47.970 Uh sex bots. 02:19:47.970 --> 02:19:55.430 Yes sex bots following like well yeah presumably oh yeah random accounts with 02:19:55.430 --> 02:20:01.390 like i mean i was getting hundreds of these damn things and and just i'm. 02:20:01.390 --> 02:20:02.150 Not that popular. 02:20:02.150 --> 02:20:08.330 And look well see the thing was on all of my socials lately i'd had a policy 02:20:08.330 --> 02:20:12.950 that if someone followed me that had more followers than i did i would follow 02:20:12.950 --> 02:20:18.710 them back just sight unseen i would follow oh god so i was doing that with some 02:20:18.710 --> 02:20:21.410 of you so you basically You basically. 02:20:21.410 --> 02:20:23.330 Filled your feed with porn. 02:20:23.770 --> 02:20:29.830 Well, my feed is all like, they weren't actually posting, so they weren't showing up in my feed. 02:20:29.950 --> 02:20:33.490 They would try to DM me and be like, hello, handsome. 02:20:33.810 --> 02:20:36.970 Oh, okay. So you were being DMed. Oh, so no, no, exactly. So you're being flooded 02:20:36.970 --> 02:20:38.810 with poor DMs. Okay, great. 02:20:39.070 --> 02:20:45.330 And so I eventually, I gave up my strategy, which had worked on other socials just fine. 02:20:45.630 --> 02:20:48.490 And I unfollowed everybody I followed like that. 02:20:48.550 --> 02:20:52.610 And I'm like, fuck it. I'm not following anybody again, like for that, 02:20:52.870 --> 02:20:54.010 because they followed me. 02:20:54.230 --> 02:20:59.610 Like, I'll go back to my other strategy of only following people who I see a 02:20:59.610 --> 02:21:02.550 post from them that seems interesting. And that's it. 02:21:03.250 --> 02:21:06.590 I don't have a lot of followers. Here's the interesting thing. 02:21:06.910 --> 02:21:09.130 Blue Sky says I have 31 followers. 02:21:09.530 --> 02:21:11.770 Follow that. Can't pronounce followers. 02:21:12.410 --> 02:21:14.990 But for some reason, when I look at the list, I only see one, 02:21:15.150 --> 02:21:20.790 two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 on the list, 02:21:20.910 --> 02:21:22.530 even though it says I have 31 followers. 02:21:22.990 --> 02:21:26.890 I, so I don't know what the hell that means. Out of those... 02:21:27.960 --> 02:21:30.320 One seems to be selling gold. 02:21:30.660 --> 02:21:31.720 Oh, good. Good. 02:21:32.880 --> 02:21:36.580 Yeah, I know. I know. I know. Pete, I'm going to I'm going to for I'm going 02:21:36.580 --> 02:21:38.560 to have him connect with you so you can buy some gold. 02:21:38.880 --> 02:21:42.600 Another one that says lovely and caring. But actually, that one doesn't seem 02:21:42.600 --> 02:21:44.940 like that. That one doesn't seem like porn. 02:21:45.120 --> 02:21:53.500 But this one here, D Rose, am looking am period space looking for a man who 02:21:53.500 --> 02:21:57.620 is emotionally mature, ready for a real relationship and values deep conversations. 02:21:58.060 --> 02:22:02.740 Someone who's comfortable being himself, who knows how to laugh at life and 02:22:02.740 --> 02:22:05.400 isn't afraid to take chances when it comes to love. 02:22:06.400 --> 02:22:09.260 I mean, that sounds and let me and I. 02:22:09.440 --> 02:22:09.580 Right. 02:22:10.240 --> 02:22:13.180 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I'm seeing her pictures and. 02:22:13.400 --> 02:22:17.180 Well, OK. All right. Let me not go into the pictures right now. 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:18.340 OK. 02:22:18.780 --> 02:22:23.720 OK. Let me see. Sarah Morgan follows me. I see the picture looks provocative, 02:22:23.720 --> 02:22:26.820 but maybe she's just a person. 02:22:27.040 --> 02:22:30.380 I don't know. she doesn't have to say anything i mean 02:22:30.380 --> 02:22:34.620 possible i mean i don't know i mean but but those are the only ones that that 02:22:34.620 --> 02:22:39.300 really like stood out to be that are like like that the rest are you know look 02:22:39.300 --> 02:22:42.740 like normal things but the one thing i don't understand why the hell this thing 02:22:42.740 --> 02:22:48.500 got 31 followers my list only shows 11 what are the other 20 you know anonymously counting. 02:22:48.500 --> 02:22:50.720 Is hard for computers it's one of the things. 02:22:50.720 --> 02:22:52.160 That well that is that is a problem 02:22:52.160 --> 02:22:55.520 yet they haven't quite mastered yet That's why we're working on AI. 02:22:56.120 --> 02:22:56.280 Exactly. 02:22:56.460 --> 02:22:59.140 And once we got the AI, then we'll be able to count. 02:22:59.540 --> 02:23:02.280 That's right. That's right. So, yeah. 02:23:02.520 --> 02:23:03.380 Okay. All right. 02:23:03.440 --> 02:23:07.040 Okay, we are done. Thanks, everybody, for joining us for yet another Curmudgeon's 02:23:07.040 --> 02:23:10.540 Corner. Tell your friends, all that kind of stuff. 02:23:11.180 --> 02:23:14.800 And stay safe. Have a good week. We'll see you next time. Goodbye. 02:23:15.460 --> 02:23:15.900 Bye. 02:23:47.860 --> 02:23:49.580 Okay, hit and stop. Later, Ivan. 02:23:50.620 --> 02:23:54.000 All right, let's see. Save. Thank you.