WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:00.790 Hello. 00:00:01.690 --> 00:00:02.310 Hello. 00:00:04.410 --> 00:00:08.630 So where are you? Where are you now today? You're traveling again? 00:00:09.270 --> 00:00:09.410 Yeah. 00:00:09.670 --> 00:00:14.030 Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Shall we? 00:00:14.350 --> 00:00:19.530 Let me make sure I have this thing here. Blah, blah, blah. Not quite yet. 00:00:22.170 --> 00:00:26.270 So tomorrow you'd be traveling home. You'd be on the way home. Okay. 00:00:26.890 --> 00:00:32.830 I understand. I understand. And not going somewhere tomorrow. You'd be going back. 00:00:32.830 --> 00:00:36.450 No, I'm going home tomorrow. And so therefore it'd be more, yeah. 00:00:36.910 --> 00:00:38.030 Yeah, I understand. 00:00:38.270 --> 00:00:43.070 And we may not be home on Saturday at all. So I, you know, because Monday is 00:00:43.070 --> 00:00:44.970 a holiday. So I don't, you know. 00:00:45.550 --> 00:00:46.510 Monday is a holiday? 00:00:47.030 --> 00:00:50.750 Yes, Monday is Columbus Day. I don't know if your company celebrates it. 00:00:51.250 --> 00:00:58.430 Oh, hell no. We get like five holidays all year long. They do absolutely nothing. 00:00:58.430 --> 00:01:04.950 I'm not even sure if my company celebrates it, but regardless, I'm taking it off. 00:01:07.810 --> 00:01:14.410 I mean, I, I, I, I mean, I, I, I do have, I operate or we have unlimited PTO. 00:01:14.650 --> 00:01:20.130 So, and the thing is that where all my customers are, they're going to be on 00:01:20.130 --> 00:01:23.490 holiday on Monday, which is otherwise I would be coming back. 00:01:23.590 --> 00:01:27.930 I'm coming back here on Tuesday. i would be flying back on monday if they would 00:01:27.930 --> 00:01:32.090 be working but they're not so i am just like well because. 00:01:32.090 --> 00:01:37.890 All of your customers in latin america are are all about celebrating the conquistadors. 00:01:37.890 --> 00:01:43.790 Well no in puerto rico specifically which which is where my my current like 00:01:43.790 --> 00:01:50.390 just the focus of my deals right now is in puerto rico that that's that's where 00:01:50.390 --> 00:01:52.390 but remember that because puerto Rico, 00:01:52.650 --> 00:01:57.170 it's Columbus, Columbus Day or Indigenous People's Day, whatever the hell it's 00:01:57.170 --> 00:01:58.630 called right now. I'm not even sure. 00:01:59.650 --> 00:02:01.150 Is it still Columbus Day? 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:07.480 Because i got it it depends like in in in the mainland i think it depends on 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:11.580 state i don't even think it's a federal holiday no. 00:02:11.580 --> 00:02:13.380 It's because it's a federal holiday. 00:02:13.380 --> 00:02:14.500 My question. 00:02:14.500 --> 00:02:21.720 Is is yes it is banks are closed on monday there is no school on monday. 00:02:21.720 --> 00:02:27.460 Okay national holiday yeah yeah in many countries in october. 00:02:27.460 --> 00:02:30.520 Observed in the united states yes. 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.340 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:02:34.160 --> 00:02:40.340 Since 1971, federal holiday, generally observed by banks, blah, blah, blah. 00:02:40.700 --> 00:02:41.020 Yes. 00:02:41.860 --> 00:02:46.040 And I think some states then have overridden and said, we're going to be indigenous 00:02:46.040 --> 00:02:52.060 people's day or whatever, but I guess the federal holiday is Columbus day. Okay. 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.660 So it is observed in a lot of other places. Like I see that in Argentina, 00:02:57.880 --> 00:03:01.020 Columbia, Peruvian, But yes, in the U.S. 00:03:01.100 --> 00:03:04.420 It's, you know, second Monday of October. 00:03:04.780 --> 00:03:08.540 Yes, it's a holiday. There is no school for my son on Monday. 00:03:09.060 --> 00:03:09.540 Okay. 00:03:09.740 --> 00:03:09.880 Yeah. 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.540 Cool. Shall we start? 00:03:13.140 --> 00:03:13.740 Mm-hmm. 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.640 Okay. Here it goes. Blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:03:20.700 --> 00:03:22.800 Blah, blah, blah. 00:03:41.660 --> 00:03:46.320 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Friday, October 11th. 00:03:46.540 --> 00:03:52.240 It's just after 2 UTC as we are starting to record. I'm Sam Minter. Yvonne Bo is with me. 00:03:52.660 --> 00:03:57.080 And yeah, we're going to do another one of these show things. Show thing thing. 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:58.800 Thanks. Hello. 00:03:59.340 --> 00:04:04.520 And as usual, our agenda is Yvonne and I will both have something a little bit 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:07.900 less newsy or at least less serious newsy. 00:04:07.900 --> 00:04:11.900 So do I sound better today on the road since I found the microphone? 00:04:12.180 --> 00:04:13.980 Yes, you do. Yes, you do. 00:04:14.160 --> 00:04:14.300 Okay. 00:04:14.900 --> 00:04:18.600 Like last week, I don't know if anybody could notice because I edited out the 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.680 part where I told Yvonne he was screwed up. 00:04:20.760 --> 00:04:27.380 But like the first couple minutes of the show, he was on his Apple ear thingy, bopple thing. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:27.880 AirPods. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.520 AirPods. That's what they're called. And so I paused. 00:04:31.700 --> 00:04:36.640 I said, Yvonne, before we continue, are you on your AirPods instead of your 00:04:36.640 --> 00:04:39.940 actual microphone? and he's like, ah, crap, and we switched it over. 00:04:39.940 --> 00:04:46.760 And for some reason, and the thing is that, you know, it's weird because usually 00:04:46.760 --> 00:04:49.460 it just uses the last settings I used. 00:04:49.940 --> 00:04:50.500 Okay? 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:57.040 And for whatever the hell reason, last week it didn't. It just decided it was 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:58.180 just connected to something else. 00:04:58.640 --> 00:05:01.000 So, you know, but yeah. 00:05:01.180 --> 00:05:05.700 But you have found the missing small portable 00:05:05.700 --> 00:05:11.600 microphone that's the the the lav kind that attaches to your shirt that i gave 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:16.380 him like theoretically paid for out of their the patreon the curmudgeon's corner 00:05:16.380 --> 00:05:19.680 patreon i haven't actually like logged everything and kept track of it since 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.720 i did that but whatever and yeah so yeah it's yeah. 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:30.520 I i i did find it it was for whatever the hell damn reason i i i am it was, 00:05:31.320 --> 00:05:37.200 It the the the little baggie that it's in looks like some other baggies that 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:45.300 I used to store some other stuff and gifts and stuff and some of their like gift bags and stuff. OK. 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.200 Oh, not the baggies for your drugs. 00:05:47.380 --> 00:05:50.400 No, not the baggies for the drugs. No, that's a separate stash. OK. 00:05:50.580 --> 00:05:55.080 And so and so it looked it looked like that. And so I think my my cleaning lady 00:05:55.080 --> 00:05:57.980 was cleaning and she put it together with those bags. 00:05:57.980 --> 00:06:01.720 And so the other day i was looking i 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.280 i couldn't find because i remodeled 00:06:05.280 --> 00:06:08.540 the office earlier this year and i 00:06:08.540 --> 00:06:11.980 had reorganized where my stuff was i was 00:06:11.980 --> 00:06:16.000 having difficulty finding some documents i needed i was about to do my taxes 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:24.280 and i couldn't find my tax folder and um and so i started just going through 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:29.100 the whole office to find some stuff and lo and behold, 00:06:29.780 --> 00:06:31.380 together with these bags. 00:06:32.260 --> 00:06:35.380 Wait I saw damn it find oh here 00:06:35.380 --> 00:06:38.280 it is I thought actually because I couldn't find it 00:06:38.280 --> 00:06:41.020 that I must have it must have fallen out of my bag and 00:06:41.020 --> 00:06:43.880 stayed at a hotel something I don't know right right for 00:06:43.880 --> 00:06:46.640 a bit but but no no no it just got mixed up with 00:06:46.640 --> 00:06:49.460 some similar looking bags that had nothing to do with 00:06:49.460 --> 00:06:52.500 it and so that's why I couldn't find it and so 00:06:52.500 --> 00:06:55.900 but this time i made sure i grabbed it immediately and 00:06:55.900 --> 00:07:00.020 i put it back in its proper location and 00:07:00.020 --> 00:07:06.880 so i i was carrying it with me and since i'm going to be traveling today we're 00:07:06.880 --> 00:07:10.320 recording today because the next day i'll be traveling and then because like 00:07:10.320 --> 00:07:15.180 i said i i am noticing that it's not an official company holiday but it doesn't 00:07:15.180 --> 00:07:18.740 really matter to me because i'm like like i mentioned And I think it was interesting to say, 00:07:18.860 --> 00:07:24.640 I mean, we have an unlimited PDO policy and Monday is not a day that I can really do a lot of work. 00:07:24.880 --> 00:07:28.220 I've been working very hard on a couple of things with customers that I know 00:07:28.220 --> 00:07:29.840 that are going to be on vacation. 00:07:30.940 --> 00:07:35.680 I mean, I know they're out. So I'm like, what am I going to do? 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:41.180 I mean, that's my focus right now that I've been here. So I will get on a plane 00:07:41.180 --> 00:07:45.700 again on Tuesday morning and try to sort it out because Monday is not going 00:07:45.700 --> 00:07:48.000 to be really much productive. 00:07:48.320 --> 00:07:52.160 Well, you know, you mentioned you have unlimited. I don't have unlimited. 00:07:52.420 --> 00:07:57.380 I have an amount that accrues and all this. Well, this is what I was going to say. 00:07:57.620 --> 00:08:01.940 Well, I save it up. Like I am about to take three weeks off. 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:03.320 Oh, that's right. 00:08:03.700 --> 00:08:07.800 I've got one more week at work and then I'm going to take three weeks off for 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:13.060 the stupid election stuff because like, and, and, you know, we'll talk like 00:08:13.060 --> 00:08:15.860 polls and crap at the, at the end of the show, I'm sure. 00:08:15.860 --> 00:08:21.680 But like right now at this very moment, I counted and I already forgot whether 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:27.960 it was 30 or 40, but like on the order of 30 or 40 data points that came in 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:29.760 over the course of the day to day. 00:08:29.860 --> 00:08:32.800 But I was at work doing my actual job. 00:08:33.140 --> 00:08:37.660 And so I didn't put those data points in yet. And and now I'm doing this show. 00:08:37.780 --> 00:08:40.520 So I'm not putting them in. So some and after we're done here, 00:08:40.660 --> 00:08:42.940 I'm undoubtedly going to have to pay attention to my son for a little bit. 00:08:42.940 --> 00:08:51.000 And then it's going to be like 10 or 11 o'clock at night. 00:08:51.160 --> 00:08:54.200 And then I'm going to have to spend the next four or five hours putting these 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.460 damn data points in. And you're going to be like, why does it take you four or five hours? 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.720 That's probably an exaggeration. It probably doesn't actually take that long. 00:09:01.820 --> 00:09:07.860 But also the way I have it set up is very much a sequential one at a time thing. 00:09:08.160 --> 00:09:10.300 Like I put in one data point. 00:09:10.850 --> 00:09:15.950 And then I tell my system to process it and it updates a bunch of stuff and 00:09:15.950 --> 00:09:18.210 it sends out a toot and it does this stuff. 00:09:18.330 --> 00:09:23.950 And then I check all of it to make sure it all works properly before I enter the next data point. 00:09:24.210 --> 00:09:27.890 So it's like, yeah, actually typing it in takes like a minute or less. 00:09:28.030 --> 00:09:30.430 But like, then I wait for it and blah, blah, blah. 00:09:30.650 --> 00:09:31.630 You're just a slacker. 00:09:32.090 --> 00:09:36.470 And I know people keep telling me, well, not people keep telling me, I keep telling myself. 00:09:36.870 --> 00:09:42.490 I could switch. There are a couple of sources where I could just ingest polls 00:09:42.490 --> 00:09:45.790 automatically and just have this stuff happen without human intervention. 00:09:46.010 --> 00:09:51.450 But the problem is, like, I make different decisions about which polls to include 00:09:51.450 --> 00:09:54.590 and which not to include than the various sources I could use. 00:09:54.910 --> 00:10:01.450 And so I'm still doing it by hand because I, like, look at each one and decide 00:10:01.450 --> 00:10:05.230 what I want to do with it and blah, blah, blah, and enter it or don't enter it and blah, blah, blah. 00:10:05.230 --> 00:10:09.090 And I know I could probably build something that made like, looked at those 00:10:09.090 --> 00:10:12.090 other sources and then said, do you want to include this one? Yes or no? 00:10:12.250 --> 00:10:15.970 And would still save me time, maybe for 2028. We'll think about it again. 00:10:16.150 --> 00:10:18.950 But like, at the moment, I do a lot of manual stuff. 00:10:19.030 --> 00:10:25.290 But it also the manual stuff, make sure I am paying attention to it with every data point that goes in. 00:10:25.410 --> 00:10:28.370 I'm like, what was the effect of this data point? You know, anyway. 00:10:29.070 --> 00:10:32.010 But yeah so so yeah i have but 00:10:32.010 --> 00:10:35.370 my point is the maximum vacation time 00:10:35.370 --> 00:10:38.350 accrual is four weeks and i'm going 00:10:38.350 --> 00:10:41.190 to use up three and i'd already used a 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:44.290 little bit on one thing or another so it means actually after 00:10:44.290 --> 00:10:48.850 i come back from this i'm gonna have very few days left so like if something 00:10:48.850 --> 00:10:54.310 comes up i'm gonna be like oh i'm out of time i can't do whatever now that you 00:10:54.310 --> 00:10:58.970 know if something did like if something major came up right they would let me 00:10:58.970 --> 00:11:01.870 go negative but you know but yeah because i. 00:11:01.870 --> 00:11:05.610 I actually you know that was one thing i i i was at a place where i i know that 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:10.310 for stuff like that they could let me go negative on on time off and i could i would have. 00:11:10.310 --> 00:11:14.590 To make it back up it's not a you wouldn't go negative because like i want to 00:11:14.590 --> 00:11:20.030 go to the bahamas for a week but if you if you like had you know like you went you had an emergency. 00:11:20.030 --> 00:11:23.830 Because your mom your mom was sick you have to go take care of her for a couple 00:11:23.830 --> 00:11:26.030 of weeks so you need to take time off yeah you could go. 00:11:26.030 --> 00:11:28.850 Negative something yeah yeah exactly and uh 00:11:28.850 --> 00:11:31.950 so but yeah it's kind of annoying because like normally 00:11:31.950 --> 00:11:35.290 like i keep getting the notices that i'm like you know 00:11:35.290 --> 00:11:38.190 you're at you're at or near your maximum you 00:11:38.190 --> 00:11:41.070 better use some time or you're not gonna you're gonna be wasting it 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:43.950 because you won't accrue anymore and uh but this year 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:46.930 i knew i'm taking the three weeks off at the end of the year so i'm like okay 00:11:46.930 --> 00:11:53.030 whatever but this is exactly why like way back in the day when i did random 00:11:53.030 --> 00:11:57.070 trips it was exactly because i realized i was never using my vacation time and 00:11:57.070 --> 00:12:00.790 i was like i should use my vacation time i'll i'll do one random trip every 00:12:00.790 --> 00:12:06.630 quarter no matter what and i used up my vacation time but yeah since then i haven't been doing that, 00:12:07.520 --> 00:12:08.220 I should do it again. 00:12:09.460 --> 00:12:09.860 Okay. 00:12:10.700 --> 00:12:14.800 Were these things our butt firsts, or do we have something else to say for our butt first? 00:12:15.660 --> 00:12:19.020 I really should catch up on my movies. I should keep up with, 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:23.940 I should catch up, like log all my movies and TV and books and stuff so I have 00:12:23.940 --> 00:12:24.700 something to talk about. 00:12:25.020 --> 00:12:27.900 What's your butt first? You're going to go with a movie? 00:12:28.580 --> 00:12:33.180 No, because I haven't logged them, so I have no idea. I don't have nothing to talk about. 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.520 Okay. All right. Well, I don't, I don't have anything else to say. 00:12:37.860 --> 00:12:42.460 So are we going to jump out? We're going to take a break and jump straight into newsy stuff. Okay. 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:49.760 Whoa. It is. It's amazing. Like, uh, you know, I'm trying to think any quick, 00:12:49.880 --> 00:12:53.920 cause, cause you know, I, I've, I've become so used to the fact that I always 00:12:53.920 --> 00:12:55.700 had a book or movie to talk about that. 00:12:55.820 --> 00:13:00.500 I haven't been bothering to log the little goofy things that I might want to talk about. 00:13:00.800 --> 00:13:04.040 And so a lot of things that I'm like, you know, the, we're all news. 00:13:04.040 --> 00:13:05.460 Time like usually here's the. 00:13:05.460 --> 00:13:06.940 One thing because like the. 00:13:06.940 --> 00:13:10.060 Weather the weather is news yes right, 00:13:11.300 --> 00:13:17.960 so oh i can't i will mention one thing except except it's it's it's i haven't 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:23.520 actually done it yet but i'm seeing all over my social media feeds the people 00:13:23.520 --> 00:13:29.360 talking about the geomagnetic storm and how the the aurora the northern oh yeah. 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.020 Yeah yeah and it's going to extend for what. 00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:34.860 It's It's going to be very, very far south, nowhere near where you are in Puerto Rico. 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:35.400 No, no, no. 00:13:35.460 --> 00:13:40.500 But I, yeah. But like as far south as the Carolinas, you know, 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:45.700 on the East Coast and as far south as, you know, Central California on the West Coast. 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.360 And, you know, earlier this year, I think it was in May, there was one of these. 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:53.840 And Alex and I, I don't know if I talked about it on the show. 00:13:53.980 --> 00:13:57.880 I probably did. But Alex and I actually went out, like we left home at like 00:13:57.880 --> 00:14:01.160 one o'clock in the morning, drove like an hour east. 00:14:01.160 --> 00:14:05.500 So we were away from the city lights in sort of the darkness in the mountains 00:14:05.500 --> 00:14:09.660 and, you know, went and watched the roar for a little bit. 00:14:09.800 --> 00:14:12.560 And it was one of those things where, yeah, you could see it with the naked 00:14:12.560 --> 00:14:16.100 eye, but you could see it so much better with your phone camera. 00:14:17.040 --> 00:14:23.920 And it's supposed to be almost as good tonight as it was back last May, 00:14:24.380 --> 00:14:28.220 maybe in some places just as good and i 00:14:28.220 --> 00:14:31.080 don't know i i on the one hand i'm sort of like it 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:34.440 would be cool to see again but on the other i'm 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.380 like did that in me like maybe like 00:14:38.380 --> 00:14:43.640 if i walk out the front door and i can actually see it from my house then maybe 00:14:43.640 --> 00:14:48.300 i'll take a few pictures but i don't know if i'm gonna like wait until the middle 00:14:48.300 --> 00:14:53.120 of the night and then drive out an hour you know to find a really dark place 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.260 and all that, which, which was cool. 00:14:55.400 --> 00:15:00.200 Cause you could like last time when this happened in May, you could see it from 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:04.240 my front door, but barely. Yeah. 00:15:04.670 --> 00:15:10.030 And you really needed the camera assist. Like you couldn't really tell with 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:12.070 the naked eye, but you could tell with the camera. 00:15:12.290 --> 00:15:16.590 But whereas when you really went out to a dark place, you could tell with the 00:15:16.590 --> 00:15:20.270 naked eye and it was spectacular with the camera, you know? 00:15:20.570 --> 00:15:24.070 And so, but I'm like, you know, I did that. 00:15:24.410 --> 00:15:28.870 Do I really have to do it again? I don't know. But it is really cool. 00:15:28.870 --> 00:15:31.610 And my social media feeds are right now. 00:15:31.790 --> 00:15:36.690 Like I'm just, I'm, I'm looking at the screen on Mastodon over here and like 00:15:36.690 --> 00:15:41.370 every other thing is like a picture of the Aurora from somewhere in the country. 00:15:42.330 --> 00:15:45.790 You know, and they're, and they're looking cool, you know? So I don't know. 00:15:46.090 --> 00:15:48.670 Okay. I was wondering if I had seen it. 00:15:49.110 --> 00:15:49.590 Yeah. 00:15:49.730 --> 00:15:53.850 I was wondering if I had seen it and I finally did find some pictures that I 00:15:53.850 --> 00:15:58.210 took of Aurora Borealis when I was flying like one night going, 00:15:59.810 --> 00:16:06.910 when I was flying, I'm not sure which leg, but on the trip, it was going to 00:16:06.910 --> 00:16:09.450 London, I think, to Asia. 00:16:10.650 --> 00:16:14.010 Well, I was ending to Asia for some or something. And, you know, 00:16:14.070 --> 00:16:18.470 we were doing and yeah, and I actually did find that it was like in 2019 that 00:16:18.470 --> 00:16:22.090 when we flew that I was able to see it out the window. 00:16:22.350 --> 00:16:27.050 So it's like rubbering if I saw it. And it was I managed to grab some pictures of it. 00:16:27.150 --> 00:16:30.090 It was like really bright it was it was it 00:16:30.090 --> 00:16:34.990 was it was cool i mean it was it was it was so yeah so so i have seen it i was 00:16:34.990 --> 00:16:37.770 like trying to remember the ice i've seen it i'm like shit i've seen it right 00:16:37.770 --> 00:16:41.970 yeah and i was like i i did find the the the picture so it was like yeah i was 00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:49.670 like uh on one night overnight like going doing the circle route thing yes you know how planes. 00:16:49.670 --> 00:16:53.210 Go over the northern areas because it's shorter. 00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:58.630 It's shorter yes because unlike what some people. 00:16:58.630 --> 00:17:04.670 Think it you know it's it's a flat plate sitting on a turtle or something whatever you know. 00:17:04.670 --> 00:17:06.490 Right but yeah anyway. 00:17:06.490 --> 00:17:11.170 Okay anything else shall we uh take that break and and and hit the. 00:17:11.170 --> 00:17:14.910 More yeah let's take the break let's let's go yeah here we go here. 00:17:14.910 --> 00:17:15.890 Here it comes. 00:17:19.560 --> 00:17:24.140 Do you want to understand what is really going on with the presidential election cycle? 00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:28.480 Then go to electiongraphs.com right away. 00:17:29.300 --> 00:17:33.580 There you'll find charts and graphs covering the nomination processes in both 00:17:33.580 --> 00:17:37.400 parties and the general election race for electoral college votes. 00:17:37.860 --> 00:17:42.820 For the delegate races, we track not just delegate totals, but also the ever-important 00:17:42.820 --> 00:17:47.940 analysis of how each candidate has to do with the remaining delegates in order to actually win. 00:17:48.320 --> 00:17:52.680 For the Electoral College, we track state-by-state poll averages to categorize 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.900 which states are actually in play and which are not in order to show you the 00:17:56.900 --> 00:18:01.200 range of likely electoral results and how that changes over time. 00:18:02.100 --> 00:18:06.320 Sure, you can get some of this stuff elsewhere, but not in exactly the same way. 00:18:06.500 --> 00:18:11.980 And not for me, Sam, your prime curmudgeon. I think my election trackers are 00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:14.480 better than the rest, so come look at mine. 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:16.720 Electiongraphs.com. 00:18:19.760 --> 00:18:21.940 Yeah so anyway that's you know 00:18:21.940 --> 00:18:28.680 i i was just thinking as that was playing that that may well be like the. 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:29.640 Last time i. 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:34.240 Well i may it may be the last time i played a break before the actual election. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.440 Uh because. 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.320 Because it only comes up like one out of every 10 times 00:18:38.320 --> 00:18:41.300 i play the break and we've only got like a few weeks 00:18:41.300 --> 00:18:47.280 left and you know maybe maybe it will maybe it won't it's random but i made 00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:51.280 that break in 2016 i've just used the same one ever since even though i've changed 00:18:51.280 --> 00:18:55.720 some stuff since then but i just pull it out every four years you know it's 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.280 fine it's fine fine god damn it anyway. 00:18:59.280 --> 00:18:59.820 Your your. 00:18:59.820 --> 00:19:02.640 Turn you want to talk about hurricanes for yours and then elections for mine 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:03.640 or you want to do something different. 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:10.740 I mean we've got the hurricanes you know what i mean all right let's talk about 00:19:10.740 --> 00:19:14.080 let's talk about the storms so we we you know, 00:19:14.800 --> 00:19:19.300 so florida i'm not in florida i'm in puerto rico you. 00:19:19.300 --> 00:19:23.500 You skipped out and left your family to fend for themselves. 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:27.640 Yeah yeah yeah look i looked at the i looked at the maps, 00:19:28.260 --> 00:19:31.120 on sunday i was talking to my mom i'm looking 00:19:31.120 --> 00:19:33.860 at my wife and i said look this is not 00:19:33.860 --> 00:19:36.720 coming down here but i i did have like 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.560 a contingency plan i had actually even like i saw 00:19:40.560 --> 00:19:46.520 that i could hold a ticket if i needed to in order to fly back early and i was 00:19:46.520 --> 00:19:50.220 like well at first i did i saw that i saw there were plenty available coming 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:55.540 the thing is that to go the tickets that were i realized i didn't even need 00:19:55.540 --> 00:20:00.020 to hold it i went and i and i looked at who was available and the prices were cheap, and I realized, 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.280 look, people aren't flying to go there. 00:20:02.620 --> 00:20:04.520 They're wanting to fly out. 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:09.540 So I saw, look, if I need to get back, it's not a big deal. 00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:14.120 I can get on the next available flight. It's no big deal. 00:20:14.840 --> 00:20:20.740 If the track changes, but I looked at the track. I was booked to fly on Monday. 00:20:21.060 --> 00:20:24.300 I had checked the flight the night, checked the track the night before. 00:20:24.300 --> 00:20:28.620 I looked at the track on Monday and I'm like, listen, this is, it's, we're 48. 00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:34.040 The computer models are very good at 48 hours out. 00:20:34.220 --> 00:20:34.340 Right. 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:39.000 Okay. It's really when it's longer than 72 hours plus where they really are 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.780 not good. But 48 hours out, they're really good. 00:20:42.580 --> 00:20:46.320 And by the way, even at 72, they're much better than they used to be. 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:48.360 There's still a lot of room for error. 00:20:49.540 --> 00:20:56.000 Yeah, even at 72. But at 48 hours, what the track that was forecasted was within 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.540 100 miles of where it went. 00:20:57.760 --> 00:21:05.380 100 miles total north-south, okay? So it was very, very accurate, okay, in that sense. 00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:11.420 So, look, the storm was forecast to be well north of 200 miles, 00:21:11.860 --> 00:21:14.200 north of where I live, at least. 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.460 And so I'm like, look, the worst we're going to get, which we just got with 00:21:18.460 --> 00:21:23.840 Helene, some blustery winds and some rain or whatever. 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:31.300 There was a whole bunch and far more than we have ever gotten before. Strong tornadoes. 00:21:31.760 --> 00:21:32.300 Yes. 00:21:32.620 --> 00:21:38.740 There were quite a lot of them. We had never gotten so many simultaneous tornado 00:21:38.740 --> 00:21:41.580 warnings at once. This was a record. 00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:47.380 There was 125 active tornado warnings that popped up at once. 00:21:48.020 --> 00:21:49.240 Across the whole state. 00:21:49.500 --> 00:21:54.220 Across, yes. That was a nutty number. We've never had that many at once. 00:21:54.540 --> 00:21:59.660 And actually, those tornadoes that did touch down in certain places caused significant 00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:02.160 damage in quite a number of places. 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:06.300 And far away from where landfall was, okay? 00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:12.180 And so that was something that was a little bit unnerving because my wife called 00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:14.240 me and said, hey, we got a tornado warning. What do you do? 00:22:14.360 --> 00:22:17.600 I'm like, well, there's nothing you could do. I mean, you stay inside. 00:22:18.820 --> 00:22:24.060 I mean, our property is as protected as it can be. 00:22:25.060 --> 00:22:29.860 You know, so, you know, we have, you know, we have hurricane impact glass. 00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:34.220 We have, we have roofs that were built within the last 10 years. 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.740 That means that, you know, if you, you, you do a new roof, you, 00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:41.620 you, you don't go and you can't build it to whatever standard it was built before. 00:22:42.120 --> 00:22:45.540 They have been like raising the standards of what hurricane protection you got. 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.880 So it's got to be built to whatever the hell the current, the current standard is. Okay. 00:22:50.340 --> 00:22:57.000 And so they're built for at least a Category 4 hurricane, you know, 00:22:57.360 --> 00:23:01.780 so basically 155-mile-an-hour wind resistance. 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:06.500 Of course, the wind in an actual tornado can be significantly higher than that. 00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:09.160 It can be significantly higher. If you have a direct hit from the tornado. 00:23:09.580 --> 00:23:10.920 If you have a direct hit from the tornado. 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:12.380 But tornadoes are much smaller. 00:23:12.820 --> 00:23:15.980 But tornadoes are much smaller. You know, it really is, you know, 00:23:16.120 --> 00:23:19.040 I mean, you can't do, you know, there's not much you can do. 00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:21.720 You know about a tornado i did see a 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.480 number of the houses that were similar to to to mine that 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.580 got hit by a tornado for the most part what happened was 00:23:27.580 --> 00:23:30.580 that they lost the the for the 00:23:30.580 --> 00:23:35.960 most part most of them just lost the decorative coverings right which is you 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:40.220 know which i don't understand why fucking i actually have decided that the next 00:23:40.220 --> 00:23:43.540 time i'm fucking doing one of these roofing projects i'm gonna go with metal 00:23:43.540 --> 00:23:47.580 roofs okay the hell with this okay you know fuck this shit. 00:23:47.820 --> 00:23:50.860 They're actually, I've seen a whole bunch of companies now, they got these metal 00:23:50.860 --> 00:23:52.700 roofs, they go with Stam'd, 00:23:53.280 --> 00:23:56.360 250 mile an hour winds you know fucking 00:23:56.360 --> 00:23:59.340 yeah you know whatever i'm like what the hell am i doing you know 00:23:59.340 --> 00:24:02.600 and i saw that it's maybe like 20 more money i'm like 00:24:02.600 --> 00:24:05.040 what the fuck am i what the hell am i fucking around with this thing no the 00:24:05.040 --> 00:24:08.780 next time just fucking put put up a metal roof the hell with this shit okay 00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:14.440 they actually look cool by the way and so so it's not bad so but anyway i so 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:18.900 we had that happen okay that was like happening as the as the storm was approaching 00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:21.720 and you know Well, the thing is that, 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.700 as everybody is saying, the landfall with Tampa was always, 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:30.640 Tampa was the one that everybody was scared about. And it really was. 00:24:31.020 --> 00:24:34.840 For years and years and years, people have always talked about, 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:39.400 like, there are several worst case scenarios that people talk about. They talk about Tampa. 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:43.280 They talk about Miami, New York, and New Orleans. 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:48.140 And we came close to the worst case in Katrina for New Orleans, 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.760 but not quite. Right. It actually was better than the worst case. 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:55.880 It veered at the last minute. And as bad as Katrina was, it was not the worst case scenario. 00:24:56.140 --> 00:25:03.160 But for Tampa and New York has dodged a couple as well. They had that that super storm Sandy a while. 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.580 But but Sandy was also dodged a little bit away from the worst case scenario. 00:25:09.740 --> 00:25:13.920 And Tampa is one where, as they talked about a lot this time around, 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:19.120 it hasn't had the kind of direct hit they're really worried about for over 100 years. 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:25.100 And it's had a few near misses. And this time was once again a near miss, 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.980 like coming in, you know, a couple dozen miles further south than what would 00:25:30.980 --> 00:25:32.220 have been the worst case scenario. 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:40.920 But even the thing is that Tampa is far more susceptible than Miami or Fort Lauderdale, 00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:48.220 Palm Beach to the flooding because of how the Tampa Bay is and how people built around the Tampa Bay. 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.920 Because on the on the east coast in 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:58.440 miami even though you can get store you get storm surge it's not as big as a 00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:04.240 storm surge that you get on on the tampa bay area part of it is because of how 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:09.840 the the the ocean shelf and how it is and how shallow it is coming into miami 00:26:09.840 --> 00:26:12.500 it makes it that you do get surge, 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.000 but it's not at not 18 feet of surge, okay? 00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:21.480 You get a lot less. The problem in Miami has been more that there's been so 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:27.500 much more construction in recent years, and there are many areas that man, 00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:33.320 they just flood regularly right now because the drainage and some things haven't been done. 00:26:33.500 --> 00:26:37.260 The reality is that I think I've mentioned before, look, I. 00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:45.880 Okay, I know I have information about what the plans are, which actually they've 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.420 been made public by the U.S. 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.980 Army Corps of Engineers, and I've had direct, you know, I've directly seen these plans. 00:26:52.180 --> 00:26:59.300 They have a great plan to avert that in Miami, and they have the money assigned to it. 00:27:00.540 --> 00:27:04.880 The complaint was, the last time it was presented, is that it involved a lot 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:09.360 of seawalls, and the people thought they looked ugly. 00:27:09.860 --> 00:27:10.280 Right. 00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:14.300 And the frustration expressed to me is, 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:20.020 like, these idiots are worried about how it fucking looks instead of the fact 00:27:20.020 --> 00:27:24.900 that we've got a plan that we have worked on for over a decade so the fucking 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:31.900 place doesn't flood in case of the worst-case fucking scenario. Okay? 00:27:32.060 --> 00:27:32.180 Right. 00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:36.280 The worst-case scenario of climate change, the worst-case scenario of a hurricane, 00:27:36.460 --> 00:27:38.040 the worst-case scenario of whatever the fuck. 00:27:38.300 --> 00:27:41.520 We already made the fucking plan. And you assholes are all dicking around because 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:42.500 you think the walls look ugly. 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.380 And they're like, they want to just fucking like, you know, they want to just kill themselves. 00:27:47.620 --> 00:27:50.580 Okay. All right. Because it's just stupid. You're engineers. 00:27:50.580 --> 00:27:53.720 You figured out how to fix the problem. And then you've got politics, 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:58.220 which Florida, unfortunately, has been flooded with politics infiltrating into 00:27:58.220 --> 00:28:02.240 this shit right now a lot over the last decade. 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:08.620 More so than ever, because before it wasn't as bad. But the hurricane went and 00:28:08.620 --> 00:28:11.120 hit straight onto Sarasota, which is not the worst case. 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.880 And what it did is actually drained the Tampa Bay instead of actually pushing 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.760 the water into the Tampa Bay. So Tampa Bay did not get hit. 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:20.340 They actually had more flooding from Helene as it went by. 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.680 And they actually had this one because of the way it went through. 00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:30.760 And thankfully, because the water was cooler as it was approaching there, strength did go down. 00:28:30.760 --> 00:28:36.020 But, you know, the places there on the shore, they had been hammered already 00:28:36.020 --> 00:28:41.600 by by by storm surge, you know, from Helene. And so they got it again. 00:28:43.010 --> 00:28:50.470 You know, and a lot of the structures in the path of the storm, 00:28:50.670 --> 00:28:58.030 there's still a lot of people that have built homes that basically are just 00:28:58.030 --> 00:28:59.610 not built for hurricanes. 00:29:00.570 --> 00:29:03.850 And, you know, somebody was asking me the other day, and I did share an article 00:29:03.850 --> 00:29:07.550 explained a little bit. So why is that? Why so many people in Florida? 00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:13.690 And why they build these houses? And part of it is that, you know, 00:29:13.830 --> 00:29:20.130 Florida had a very, very, very long streak of not getting hit by a lot of storms, okay? 00:29:20.750 --> 00:29:24.470 And even in the west coast of Florida, too, look, we're talking about Tampa 00:29:24.470 --> 00:29:27.490 Bay. Tampa Bay has not been hit by a major hurricane in 100 years. 00:29:27.850 --> 00:29:32.090 This is one of the ones that has come the closest, okay, in recent times. 00:29:32.370 --> 00:29:36.090 And so, you know, Florida had a very long streak of that. 00:29:36.570 --> 00:29:40.190 And then in the early 90s, they got hit by Andrew. 00:29:40.190 --> 00:29:42.870 Okay and when they got 00:29:42.870 --> 00:29:47.150 hit by Andrew what happened was okay Miami 00:29:47.150 --> 00:29:50.150 South Florida Miami Palm 00:29:50.150 --> 00:29:53.450 Beach and Broward adopted much stricter construction codes 00:29:53.450 --> 00:29:57.730 but the rest of the state didn't they like acted like ah that's just Miami we 00:29:57.730 --> 00:30:04.310 you know we that's not gonna happen here which is just idiotic okay so the rest 00:30:04.310 --> 00:30:06.190 of the state has operated and 00:30:06.190 --> 00:30:10.770 like South Florida had I kept never understanding this We would get like, 00:30:10.910 --> 00:30:14.330 I was talking to somebody that just bought a house in Jacksonville two years 00:30:14.330 --> 00:30:15.650 ago, which, by the way, is also 00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:19.690 on target to be able to be hit by our hurricane. It's had close calls. 00:30:20.810 --> 00:30:24.670 And they were paying like $2,000 in insurance. Well, I'm paying $8,000 in insurance. 00:30:24.990 --> 00:30:25.290 Right. 00:30:25.410 --> 00:30:31.470 And I'm like, and their house is not, they just bought a new house that's built 00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:34.070 with wooden walls. It was just built recently. 00:30:34.210 --> 00:30:40.090 And I'm like, this thing in a fucking Cat 3 hurricane, forget about four or five. 00:30:40.370 --> 00:30:42.730 Cat 3 storm, this thing is gone. 00:30:43.130 --> 00:30:46.730 There's nothing left here. Okay. Pitching up matchsticks. 00:30:46.950 --> 00:30:50.610 And we're building these. They're still building these new. You have so many 00:30:50.610 --> 00:30:53.970 people that came from the south, moved into Florida, 00:30:54.690 --> 00:31:00.410 built houses like they were building houses in Tennessee, in those areas, 00:31:01.050 --> 00:31:03.230 built them especially in the northern part of the state. 00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:06.970 It really makes no sense. So many of them moved. And because there was such 00:31:06.970 --> 00:31:10.910 a lull in storms, you still have a lot of this construction around. 00:31:11.870 --> 00:31:16.690 Now, in a lot of cities, like I know that my nephew just moved into a new place in Orlando. 00:31:16.690 --> 00:31:19.750 And I had been worried about, is he going to be okay? And he told me, 00:31:19.910 --> 00:31:23.510 actually, no, this new place that I went into Orlando, which is not close to 00:31:23.510 --> 00:31:27.170 the coast, which actually, you know, one of the things is a hurricane moves inland. 00:31:27.390 --> 00:31:31.010 It pretty quickly loses strength in terms of wind and whatever, whatnot. 00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:35.030 If you're in an area that is not prone to flooding, he told me, 00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:37.510 hey, it was windy, whatever, but everything was fine. It's no problem. 00:31:37.630 --> 00:31:39.030 And they had impact glass. 00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:43.210 They've got, you know, structure is solid. It's not made out of wood. 00:31:43.290 --> 00:31:46.730 And he was like, okay, so he was fine. But in Central Florida, 00:31:46.850 --> 00:31:51.650 for example, those people in those more modern areas that I'm around, 00:31:51.670 --> 00:31:53.530 I talked to a couple of people, they were fine. 00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:58.310 But there was one person specifically that I knew lived somewhere further south 00:31:58.310 --> 00:31:59.570 close to Sebring, Florida. 00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:05.410 And I knew that all those houses there were basically pre-manufactured houses, 00:32:05.410 --> 00:32:09.630 which is almost like a trailer on top of a fucking slab of concrete. 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:14.030 And I am like, this person's saying, well, I'm going to ride it out. 00:32:14.030 --> 00:32:18.290 I was looking at that map this fucking storm was going straight for them, 00:32:19.030 --> 00:32:22.870 And I'm like, I tried to call him. I said, you're out of your mind. 00:32:23.110 --> 00:32:25.950 Get the hell out of there. No, no, no. We're going to ride this out. 00:32:26.370 --> 00:32:30.730 Okay, look, these people are not island people. They were from Indiana. 00:32:30.970 --> 00:32:32.330 They've never lived through this. 00:32:32.610 --> 00:32:33.190 Right, right, right. 00:32:33.230 --> 00:32:37.490 Okay, so today, fine. They posted today. They were alive. Yes. 00:32:37.910 --> 00:32:42.690 But they posted that all their, half the houses around them were destroyed. 00:32:43.450 --> 00:32:51.150 And I'm like, okay, how could you just, you know, How could you just, I mean, do you realize, 00:32:51.470 --> 00:32:56.290 you know, I don't know about you, but if I'm somewhere where the house next 00:32:56.290 --> 00:33:01.590 to mine or a few, several of them got destroyed and I lucked out, 00:33:01.930 --> 00:33:03.590 I'm not feeling very good the next day. 00:33:03.590 --> 00:33:09.770 And I'll tell you something that that night had to be horrible because my wife 00:33:09.770 --> 00:33:13.290 still from the one big hurricane that we had in 2004, 00:33:13.510 --> 00:33:20.570 Wilma, still has is is petrified from them. She's got post-traumatic stress from it. 00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:24.930 In the in the short time I lived at Florida was like one of the years that we 00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:26.010 got a whole bunch of hits. 00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:27.390 Yeah, we had a whole bunch. 00:33:27.430 --> 00:33:33.130 And for the first one, like we picked up the whole family, all the pets, 00:33:33.270 --> 00:33:35.650 everything, and we evacuated all the way to New Orleans. 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:40.190 The second or third one, we're like, this one's not that bad. We'll hang out. 00:33:41.050 --> 00:33:47.350 And like, it was scary. You know, we were all fine. The place was fine, whatever. 00:33:47.530 --> 00:33:50.790 This was when we were staying in like your relative's place. Yes. 00:33:51.350 --> 00:33:56.230 And, and, you know, it was, it was fine, but there were, there was lots of damage in the neighborhood. 00:33:56.470 --> 00:34:01.230 We, we stayed in like the noise of the storm going over. 00:34:01.550 --> 00:34:02.290 The noise. 00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:05.870 Cause we'd boarded up everything. So you couldn't see outside. 00:34:06.130 --> 00:34:06.390 Right. 00:34:06.390 --> 00:34:11.390 It was just the noise of, like, destruction obviously happening all around. 00:34:11.410 --> 00:34:12.370 Happening outside, yes. 00:34:12.370 --> 00:34:15.870 Things creaking, things slamming, things whatever. 00:34:16.610 --> 00:34:22.010 And, yeah, it was a little scary. And we were like, okay, if there's another one. 00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:23.150 We're not standing. 00:34:23.430 --> 00:34:25.210 We're going. We're going. 00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:30.610 And, look, here's one thing. Look, my family, I, you know, like me and my parents 00:34:30.610 --> 00:34:33.310 or whatever, you know, sort of these things, right? 00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:38.570 I, you know, people are like, oh, my God, Florida is like, you know, 00:34:39.170 --> 00:34:41.170 nobody can live in Florida, blah, blah, blah. 00:34:41.270 --> 00:34:43.850 I'm like, fuck, man, I've lived with this shit since I was a little kid. 00:34:44.050 --> 00:34:49.410 I mean, you know, this is what happens when you live in the Caribbean, 00:34:49.610 --> 00:34:51.790 in the tropics. This is what it is. 00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:56.310 Florida had gotten lucky for many years. But look, I still remember when I first 00:34:56.310 --> 00:35:00.610 went to Carnegie Mellon the first year, okay, two weeks later, 00:35:00.910 --> 00:35:07.190 okay, Hurricane Hugo hit Puerto Rico. Hurricane Hugo didn't hit Florida, but it hit South. 00:35:07.270 --> 00:35:09.910 I think it was like Charleston, okay? South Carolina. 00:35:10.350 --> 00:35:15.290 It destroyed Charleston, South Carolina. And it was, it got up to a category. 00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:20.330 I think it was like category three, four, five. It was, listen, that was brutal, okay? 00:35:20.790 --> 00:35:24.930 And when it hit, it destroyed. It hit San Juan. And that was, 00:35:25.350 --> 00:35:30.750 and look, I, when it hit Puerto Rico, hours before the storm hit, 00:35:31.620 --> 00:35:37.640 Back then, telephone to Puerto Rico, to here, was not on Fiverr underwater. It was satellite. 00:35:38.540 --> 00:35:43.100 And so, damn it, the satellite signals started, the satellite stopped working. 00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:48.240 I don't know if the dish, whatever, but I couldn't place a call out. 00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:54.160 And, man, I spent two weeks that I had no idea what the fuck happened. 00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.220 I could read the newspapers. 00:35:55.780 --> 00:35:58.640 But but in terms of and and even you know it 00:35:58.640 --> 00:36:01.920 was a lot of coverage because you know what happens 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.960 when you're in the u.s like whatever happens something 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.520 in puerto rico i mean they'll mention it but they're not going to be covering 00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:12.600 it in depth especially back then and so you know i'm making calls i actually 00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:17.000 talked to some people in san juan finally i was able to because then what happened 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.300 was it was forget the satellites satellites come back up the phone lines to 00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:22.660 where my parents lived got knocked out. 00:36:23.220 --> 00:36:26.500 Okay. And so the power lines got knocked out. Everything got knocked out, 00:36:26.580 --> 00:36:29.020 but it was, it was several weeks until I found out they were okay. 00:36:29.600 --> 00:36:33.040 But, but the thing is that, you know, we had that, you know, 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.880 my mom endured her first hurricane when she was, you know, 00:36:38.660 --> 00:36:45.120 five, six years old, you know, we, we lived through them like the forties, fifties, sixties. 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.140 Seventies, eighties, you know, every year. 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:52.360 I mean, I don't know to me, it's like, Look, it's something that from where 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.260 we are, that you live, that you prepare for. 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:01.600 OK, yeah, that's just the way it is. And you prepare for properly and it's and it's usually OK. 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:09.120 Yeah. Puerto Rico was before Hurricane Maria had never had a lot of problems 00:37:09.120 --> 00:37:11.820 with recovering from a storm. 00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:15.640 The circumstances surrounding what happened like here 00:37:15.640 --> 00:37:19.100 with that hurricane in 2017 had to 00:37:19.100 --> 00:37:22.120 do first with the fact 00:37:22.120 --> 00:37:25.200 that the the island government had been in bankruptcy 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.140 and that had been something that had been going on and that 00:37:28.140 --> 00:37:30.820 had caused that the electric grid had been 00:37:30.820 --> 00:37:34.280 left in a state of total disrepair that 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.220 it was just it was just a story you 00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:40.240 know everybody knew look if a major hurricane hits 00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:43.620 it there electric grid is in such bad shape it's it's it's 00:37:43.620 --> 00:37:46.280 not going to work and you know 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:53.440 as you talk to people here the it wasn't the storm itself the the storm itself 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.320 the winds it's not like the wind knocked out people it wasn't it wasn't that 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:02.520 it was the aftermath unfortunately that killed people because when you had so 00:38:02.520 --> 00:38:04.480 many people that depended that couldn't get. 00:38:05.350 --> 00:38:08.670 More specifically medical treatment aid people 00:38:08.670 --> 00:38:11.630 that needed medicines oxygen that people 00:38:11.630 --> 00:38:18.510 that you know that they could get the help for that it was the the post storm 00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:23.070 and the lack of recovery and the fact that i mean it's been shown right now 00:38:23.070 --> 00:38:26.230 already that the trump administration actually blocked aid to puerto rico post 00:38:26.230 --> 00:38:30.170 hurricane he didn't want to send the aid he was like fuck fuck you. 00:38:30.390 --> 00:38:32.970 I mean, he actively sabotaged recovery. 00:38:33.150 --> 00:38:36.250 There was more about that just this last week, 00:38:36.710 --> 00:38:40.470 that more revelations of the Trump administration still coming out, 00:38:40.810 --> 00:38:45.050 more details about how not just for Puerto Rico, but for California, 00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:50.050 for other places, he absolutely was like, hey, did they support me? 00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:54.130 If the answer is no, then why should they get aid? 00:38:54.330 --> 00:38:58.430 And specifically the example that came out this week for California was related 00:38:58.430 --> 00:39:00.090 to the fires and everything like that. 00:39:00.510 --> 00:39:07.830 And somebody actually had to go and show him the, the number of Trump voters 00:39:07.830 --> 00:39:13.910 in the specific County that was having the fire issue and show him that yet, 00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:18.090 even though it was California and even though there was a, it was a blue state. 00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:20.610 It's a red area of the state. 00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:24.910 It was a red area of the state. And not only that, the population density was 00:39:24.910 --> 00:39:30.430 such that the number of Trump voters in that one county was bigger than the 00:39:30.430 --> 00:39:33.730 number of Trump voters in some entire states, you know? 00:39:34.010 --> 00:39:36.150 And then he's like, okay, fine, send them some aid. 00:39:36.630 --> 00:39:42.710 But this is the thing. And so the reality is, is we approach this election again. It's, 00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:48.430 is how that really impacted. Now, in what happened right now in Florida with 00:39:48.430 --> 00:39:50.990 Milton, as he had to go through- Yeah. 00:39:50.990 --> 00:39:51.130 Let's talk about this one. 00:39:51.230 --> 00:39:55.310 No, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no. And, you know, it's just, so many people are talking 00:39:55.310 --> 00:39:57.910 about, look, we're getting more storms, and they're like, oh my God, 00:39:58.050 --> 00:40:02.990 you know, it's just, listen, unfortunately, Florida had been lucky for a long 00:40:02.990 --> 00:40:04.810 time, not getting hit with storms. 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:10.190 People got lulled into complacency, okay? And so that is why I think, 00:40:10.370 --> 00:40:12.950 and you've got a lot of newcomers that just aren't used to storms. 00:40:12.950 --> 00:40:16.910 Yeah, I was going to say that there are a few things here. One, 00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:19.430 there was a period that was a lull, like you said. 00:40:19.950 --> 00:40:23.670 Two, just in general, because of climate change, they're going to be more and 00:40:23.670 --> 00:40:27.150 bigger and the effects are going to be stronger. 00:40:27.710 --> 00:40:33.330 Three, you do have huge population increases since the last time there were big stuff. 00:40:33.710 --> 00:40:36.790 And lots of new people who've never experienced blah, blah, blah. 00:40:36.790 --> 00:40:40.070 And you were talking before, 00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:48.450 in some places, the people who are doing the regulation are not all in on the 00:40:48.450 --> 00:40:52.550 idea that, okay, you build something new, it has to meet these newer standards. 00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:59.230 And of course, you've also got a wide variety of incomes out there as well. 00:40:59.470 --> 00:41:00.270 Oh, God, yes. 00:41:00.630 --> 00:41:05.170 There are some folks that can afford all the fancy, super protective stuff, 00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:07.750 and there are some folks that can't. And what do you do there? 00:41:08.470 --> 00:41:13.050 But listen, Puerto Rico has showed that you can afford, you can build, 00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:15.290 you know, it doesn't have to be just a rich people. 00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:19.770 You know, we got houses over here that are built for less than $100,000 that 00:41:19.770 --> 00:41:22.410 can withstand a storm better than houses that I know in the States, 00:41:22.610 --> 00:41:25.030 in Florida, for a million dollars. 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:32.370 Well, a big part of it is just use the right construction materials for the 00:41:32.370 --> 00:41:36.330 area that you're constructing. Like, we're in an earthquake zone. 00:41:36.970 --> 00:41:40.350 In an earthquake zone, wood is better than concrete. 00:41:40.790 --> 00:41:41.730 100%, yes. 00:41:41.930 --> 00:41:44.030 But if you're in a hurricane zone. 00:41:44.690 --> 00:41:45.390 You want concrete! 00:41:45.810 --> 00:41:46.870 Yeah, you don't want wood. 00:41:47.170 --> 00:41:51.590 No, exactly. You don't want wood. And, you know, talking about climate change, 00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:53.810 now it sparked a different thing in terms of hurricanes. 00:41:53.990 --> 00:41:56.170 This was a very strange hurricane. 00:41:56.410 --> 00:42:02.050 And this is a hurricane that was definitely, absolutely, one that climate change 00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:08.010 spurred, that in the past would not have happened. because it formed off the 00:42:08.010 --> 00:42:09.810 Yucatan Peninsula, okay? 00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:11.530 Right there in the Gulf of Mexico. 00:42:11.830 --> 00:42:17.610 And that is not, that didn't happen before. You didn't get a storm. 00:42:17.990 --> 00:42:23.370 The water used to be colder there. So you never got these storms forming there 00:42:23.370 --> 00:42:30.410 and then strengthening that quickly because it gathered steam and strengthened super quick, okay? 00:42:30.630 --> 00:42:33.810 And then go in this west to east route, 00:42:33.810 --> 00:42:41.110 which is not I don't know it's not the way you usually think of hurricanes going 00:42:41.110 --> 00:42:46.490 no they don't do that it's the reason why Tampa never got hit. 00:42:47.870 --> 00:42:54.510 And so all of a sudden you've got Gulf of Mexico that is a lot warmer that all 00:42:54.510 --> 00:43:01.590 of a sudden can fuel a storm and have it go from tropical storm to cat 5 and like, 00:43:02.250 --> 00:43:04.190 this in a snap of a finger. 00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:10.490 So, yeah, I mean, it's it's creating a different threat that what you were seeing. 00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:15.390 And so we I think that's one thing where we used to be preparing for a different threat. 00:43:15.710 --> 00:43:21.670 And now because of climate change, you're getting a totally different new one at this point. 00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:30.810 And the whole damn state of Florida has to adopt the same damn frickin building code. 00:43:31.590 --> 00:43:33.270 That takes into account, 00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:37.040 storm surge hurricanes what the 00:43:37.040 --> 00:43:40.020 fuck the strength is and so forth and so on you can't 00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:42.760 because right now it used to be that 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.680 the panhandle west coast north florida 00:43:45.680 --> 00:43:51.620 ah whatever man the panhandle has gotten hammered by three hurricanes in the 00:43:51.620 --> 00:43:58.760 last couple of years three three of them okay and well at this point one thing 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:05.200 about it is that because insurance companies have basically said fuck you, we're not. 00:44:07.160 --> 00:44:08.020 Insuring you. 00:44:08.140 --> 00:44:13.620 We're not, you know, either, you know, so let's push some people to not build. 00:44:13.780 --> 00:44:17.960 However, you know what we've gotten also is a whole bunch of people that have 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:24.520 decided to rebuild there with no insurance and no mortgage, no nothing, 00:44:24.680 --> 00:44:26.700 and a place that got obliterated already. 00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:35.000 And I'm just like, you know, I mean, it's, Listen, the storm surge shows that 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.480 that place is just not a good place to build. 00:44:39.640 --> 00:44:46.680 Yes, I know you love your ocean view, but it's just not survivable. And so... 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:54.160 I don't know. I will say this. No significant change to this stuff is going 00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:55.360 to happen to this governor. 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.320 I will say that, thank God, that the worst-case scenario of this storm did not happen. 00:45:01.420 --> 00:45:04.880 However, regardless of that, the damage has been quite extensive, 00:45:05.220 --> 00:45:09.940 especially in the west coast of Florida, because they got storm surge from two storms back to back. 00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:15.280 And, oh, by the way, the hurricane season ain't over. We've still got a few more weeks. 00:45:16.740 --> 00:45:23.440 And last year we had a hurricane in november so um so so what's not like it's 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:27.820 not like the hurricane season it's not like you know oh closing time okay yeah 00:45:27.820 --> 00:45:32.800 no more hurricanes november 1st ha ha ha see ya no no no it's not it's not you 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.380 know it doesn't work that way yeah. 00:45:34.380 --> 00:45:39.080 There was that one year where they had to like go into the greek letters right. 00:45:39.080 --> 00:45:40.880 Yes that happened more. 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.240 Than once actually i think but. 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:42.940 Yes you. 00:45:42.940 --> 00:45:44.380 Know and if i. 00:45:44.380 --> 00:45:48.960 Remember we haven't actually gone through that many letters the the thing is 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.280 you know some people and i know like the. 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.780 Time frame like that that time that that happened i it it also just stretched 00:45:55.780 --> 00:46:01.220 so there essentially wasn't an end like you had like the new the new season 00:46:01.220 --> 00:46:05.740 started picking up before the there was just there was no month that had nothing. 00:46:05.740 --> 00:46:08.560 Yeah and so i look the 00:46:08.560 --> 00:46:11.900 one thing about it is that you know 00:46:11.900 --> 00:46:14.920 predicting how many hurricanes you're going to get in a season obviously 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.180 you know people it's like oh they predict this is going to be the most 00:46:18.180 --> 00:46:22.960 active season blah blah blah and look the one thing is that look you can't predict 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.600 how many hurricanes you're going to get because you have to get the conditions 00:46:25.600 --> 00:46:31.800 however what has been clearly demonstrated by the storm is that the conditions 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.680 are there that once you get something spooled up, 00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:42.020 it's spooling up in places that you don't expect to an intensity so quickly 00:46:42.020 --> 00:46:43.640 that you wouldn't have gotten before. 00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:44.480 Right. 00:46:45.770 --> 00:46:49.230 And that's that's your current climate reality. 00:46:49.590 --> 00:46:55.150 And oh, by the way, the other thing is that I don't care how many people would 00:46:55.150 --> 00:46:56.590 argue with me about this. 00:46:57.330 --> 00:47:01.230 There is no safe place from climate change. It doesn't fucking matter. 00:47:01.470 --> 00:47:03.610 It's pick your poison. OK, all right. 00:47:04.470 --> 00:47:06.690 And there it doesn't exist. OK. 00:47:07.630 --> 00:47:11.950 Yeah. You know, I was talking about was having dinner lunch in California. 00:47:11.950 --> 00:47:15.370 Is that these people, they were telling me about how that auto dealership that 00:47:15.370 --> 00:47:19.510 was in Kansas that got completely obliterated by tornadoes like a couple of 00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:21.130 years ago. Okay? Just gone. 00:47:21.750 --> 00:47:24.490 $100 million business. Just completely destroyed. Okay? 00:47:25.470 --> 00:47:29.570 You know, with the wildfires, with the flash floods, with what happened in North 00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.770 Carolina and Tennessee like right now with that tropical storm that went and 00:47:32.770 --> 00:47:38.690 churned all the way inland, all the way over there, and caused all that damage. 00:47:39.270 --> 00:47:42.250 I had somebody argue with me? I don't know if you remember that last year they 00:47:42.250 --> 00:47:45.330 had these crazy flash floods in Las Vegas. 00:47:46.490 --> 00:47:47.490 Vaguely. Vaguely. 00:47:47.890 --> 00:47:51.750 There was a ridiculous rain event in Las Vegas. 00:47:52.790 --> 00:47:56.290 Once again, one of these things that never happened where they had this massive 00:47:56.290 --> 00:48:01.270 rain event in Las Vegas that caused crazy flash floods where everything was 00:48:01.270 --> 00:48:05.890 like, I mean, the streets looked like rivers, cars were being dragged. It was just crazy. 00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:10.150 Somebody was trying to argue with me that that's not That's not a natural disaster. And I'm like, 00:48:12.590 --> 00:48:15.790 um, that's not, okay. 00:48:17.190 --> 00:48:19.650 Unless you're going to argue it's a man-made disaster instead. 00:48:20.330 --> 00:48:21.990 Well, you could say that. 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:23.280 Yeah. 00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:24.020 Yeah. 00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:25.780 So what? 00:48:25.860 --> 00:48:29.960 Well, we could argue that all of these are right now or, you know, 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.240 man, they're influenced. 00:48:32.460 --> 00:48:35.440 They have been influenced by our influence on the planet. 00:48:36.040 --> 00:48:37.340 Humanity has made it worse. 00:48:38.040 --> 00:48:42.680 Humanity has made it worse. But but Sam, is that do you have the joystick hiding 00:48:42.680 --> 00:48:44.940 over there in that shelf over there where you control the storms? 00:48:45.380 --> 00:48:47.880 Wait a second. Yes, I do. 00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:52.360 Oh, OK. There you go. So that's how you steer it into the. i steer the storm. 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.540 With this little joystick yep yep. 00:48:54.540 --> 00:48:55.040 Yeah and. 00:48:55.040 --> 00:48:58.820 You know i push the button a few times if i want to make it. 00:48:58.820 --> 00:49:02.880 Stronger tornadoes that that makes the tornadoes yeah exactly yeah yeah you 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.340 click the button when you click it a whole bunch of times that's why they got 00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:10.020 so many tornadoes you're just non-stop clicking the button exactly so so. 00:49:10.020 --> 00:49:13.740 Real quick before we move on from this subject do you have a quick summary of 00:49:13.740 --> 00:49:18.480 like what the actual damage looks like as of. 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:23.320 What we know right now they're still going through they you know i will say 00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.520 this i expected worse i talked to people in central florida and a lot of the 00:49:27.520 --> 00:49:29.420 people there that i expected to have no power, 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:36.000 they had power they had water they had power i saw that disney is opening tomorrow 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:42.280 again right okay and so so that means that they didn't get that now i will say 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.320 that disney does definitely prepare their parks. 00:49:46.040 --> 00:49:51.500 I'm surprised by how well they have designed those parks to withstand storms. 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:53.800 Because they've gotten hit by several. 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:56.880 And it's like, eh, it's fine. 00:49:57.140 --> 00:49:58.480 They're closed for like a day. 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.080 Yeah, they're closed for like a day and then they're like, eh, 00:50:01.180 --> 00:50:01.960 we're cleaned up, it's fine. 00:50:02.120 --> 00:50:04.480 You did have that stadium lose its roof, right? 00:50:05.240 --> 00:50:11.740 That stadium lost its roof, but I realize that I don't understand why it talked, 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:15.520 you know, we're talking about shitty construction, man, I mean, 00:50:15.660 --> 00:50:17.960 that stadium was just, the roof was like cloth. 00:50:18.200 --> 00:50:20.720 I mean, it would have come off by just me blowing hard. 00:50:21.100 --> 00:50:26.800 It's just ridiculous. I don't understand how they, they thought that that was like a great place to, 00:50:27.510 --> 00:50:32.550 Stage people. I mean, I realize that I see Tropicana Field, and that's the stadium 00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:38.210 that had, and it looked like it was just barely a cloth roof. 00:50:38.310 --> 00:50:42.970 Well, I heard some people talking about it saying that, at least theoretically, 00:50:43.730 --> 00:50:46.930 even though, yes, it was some sort of special fabric or whatever, 00:50:47.050 --> 00:50:52.450 it was supposed to be rated for winds that were greater than what this hurricane sent through. 00:50:52.790 --> 00:50:55.950 So something was wrong, or somebody cheats out. 00:50:55.950 --> 00:50:59.610 It was somebody screwed up. Okay, all right, fair enough. 00:50:59.930 --> 00:51:04.330 Because the one thing is that the roof on the... Because I think both of these 00:51:04.330 --> 00:51:09.330 were built relatively, you know, not that far apart, the baseball stadium in Miami. 00:51:09.930 --> 00:51:13.950 The roof of this baseball stadium in Miami is like a steel structure. 00:51:13.950 --> 00:51:19.370 It's like super, like, you know, very, very sturdy looking at least. 00:51:19.670 --> 00:51:23.590 And, you know, this thing is just a, looks like a flimsy piece of cloth. 00:51:24.030 --> 00:51:26.770 But I guess that they said, okay that's what i was checking that 00:51:26.770 --> 00:51:29.730 i was wondering what it was rated for and so 00:51:29.730 --> 00:51:33.190 i guess somebody just screwed up okay that happens you 00:51:33.190 --> 00:51:36.290 know we'll we'll find out about a structure 00:51:36.290 --> 00:51:39.090 like that but one thing about a 00:51:39.090 --> 00:51:42.130 structure like that is that it it it 00:51:42.130 --> 00:51:45.210 takes just a weak spot right that 00:51:45.210 --> 00:51:51.610 they screwed up for the whole thing to fail and so it may it may have just been 00:51:51.610 --> 00:51:56.190 that they made you know wherever where it was installed they left a weak spot 00:51:56.190 --> 00:52:01.310 that nobody identified and that's why it failed so that could be that but yeah 00:52:01.310 --> 00:52:02.950 you know how other than that i. 00:52:02.950 --> 00:52:06.690 Know i know we're not very far in and people are still searching and stuff but 00:52:06.690 --> 00:52:11.590 how are we on death toll compared like helene ended up with like 240. 00:52:11.590 --> 00:52:14.310 No nothing like that no you know you know 00:52:14.310 --> 00:52:17.910 what people because helene just happened even though 00:52:17.910 --> 00:52:21.030 i talked about a couple of people that didn't take it seriously and whatnot 00:52:21.030 --> 00:52:24.170 man people really evacuated and they evacuated 00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:26.930 early they really took it seriously they saw what happened with helene 00:52:26.930 --> 00:52:30.150 people got the fuck out right and so so 00:52:30.150 --> 00:52:32.950 yeah i i do think that the fact 00:52:32.950 --> 00:52:35.910 that yeah that unfortunate incident just happened 00:52:35.910 --> 00:52:41.770 recently with helene made it that yeah i mean people really did evacuate early 00:52:41.770 --> 00:52:46.190 the one thing that was amazing was that usually sometimes in these evacuations 00:52:46.190 --> 00:52:50.710 like the day before it hits people are still jam-packed in traffic and the reality 00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:53.190 was that the day before it hit and the hours before, 00:52:53.990 --> 00:52:56.930 the roads were clear because everybody had already evacuated. 00:52:56.970 --> 00:52:59.890 There were all kinds of pictures of the traffic jams but they were earlier. 00:53:00.050 --> 00:53:01.610 They were like more than a day before. 00:53:02.110 --> 00:53:08.410 More than a day before, yeah. They were already cleared out and so it wasn't 00:53:08.410 --> 00:53:11.690 really you know, I think that that absolutely, 00:53:12.980 --> 00:53:17.860 saved lives and so far i haven't heard of any reported deaths yet from the storm 00:53:17.860 --> 00:53:22.280 i i know that not even from the tornadoes or whatever but so far i i haven't heard i. 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.500 I've seen some reports of deaths from the tornadoes uh. 00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:28.740 That's the one that from the tornadoes is the one that i think 00:53:28.740 --> 00:53:32.340 that that there may be some i hadn't heard any because from from 00:53:32.340 --> 00:53:35.460 the others but but at this point i still had not seen any 00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:38.480 any reports of that yet but but i 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.740 know from the tornadoes they were still digging through because man the tornadoes 00:53:42.740 --> 00:53:47.120 it was just so many different places and it hit people just unexpectedly like 00:53:47.120 --> 00:53:51.360 they just didn't expect that that was going to happen well now they're saying 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.540 okay first count 11 dead that i'm looking at right now and. 00:53:55.540 --> 00:53:57.820 It is still early they're going to be finding people. 00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.000 For a while like people who didn't leave. 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.220 And were in flimsy buildings and all that kind of stuff. 00:54:04.220 --> 00:54:09.460 That that i do think that thank god that so many people went and like evacuated 00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:12.540 early thank god because it would have been a lot worse i think it would have 00:54:12.540 --> 00:54:16.360 been and that so that's the main thing that we've got thank god so. 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:22.720 Right okay shall we take a break and then start talk see what it is start talking 00:54:22.720 --> 00:54:27.120 politics before i do that though i just want to do a. 00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:28.560 Call out for. 00:54:28.560 --> 00:54:34.460 Most of this last segment sean has been watching us live so. 00:54:34.460 --> 00:54:37.860 Welcome so. 00:54:37.860 --> 00:54:45.980 Welcome sean and glad to have you here and yeah hope you're enjoying watching live very exciting. 00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:47.880 Live yeah. 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.920 Exactly okay here we go we're going to take a break and when we come back we'll 00:54:51.920 --> 00:55:02.640 do the uh the election 2024 politics thingy thingy boo blop here we go yeah boop If. 00:55:02.640 --> 00:55:03.560 My mouse works. 00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:10.120 Why is my mouse not working? 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So I guess I will start as I have the last few weeks with 00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:32.850 the whole election thingy. 00:56:33.730 --> 00:56:37.450 And specifically, I'll start with polling and election graphs. 00:56:37.550 --> 00:56:41.470 I mentioned at the beginning of the show, how many new polls are coming in. 00:56:41.470 --> 00:56:45.050 And this is why I'm taking off the last couple of weeks before the election, 00:56:45.050 --> 00:56:47.810 because this just becomes out of control. 00:56:48.050 --> 00:56:50.070 OK, I'm counting right now. 00:56:50.550 --> 00:56:53.910 Today, state level polls only, not the national. One, two, three, 00:56:54.130 --> 00:56:58.490 four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Oh, wait. 00:56:59.670 --> 00:57:04.510 I'm counting wrong. And these are data points. Like some polls have multiple data points. 00:57:04.710 --> 00:57:14.710 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23. 00:57:15.410 --> 00:57:21.530 Skip the national ones. 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 00:57:21.810 --> 00:57:25.690 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40. 00:57:25.690 --> 00:57:32.190 There were 40 state-level polls released today that I have not yet put into 00:57:32.190 --> 00:57:34.230 the system. I will do it soon. 00:57:35.810 --> 00:57:40.410 But here's the deal. The bottom line summary is very similar to when we talked 00:57:40.410 --> 00:57:47.510 about it last week, that we are still in a situation where really it is too close to call. 00:57:47.750 --> 00:57:52.270 There are so many states. And these 40 polls that I just mentioned, 00:57:52.290 --> 00:57:55.830 I scanned through them. I don't think they're going to change the big picture here. 00:57:56.450 --> 00:58:01.750 These seven key states are all really, 00:58:02.230 --> 00:58:06.570 really close and probably beyond the ability of polling to tell the difference 00:58:06.570 --> 00:58:11.710 of who's ahead or who's not and which way will the polls be wrong this time. 00:58:12.190 --> 00:58:18.490 However, having said all that, for about the last week and a half to two weeks. 00:58:19.550 --> 00:58:24.290 Harris has had a string of really bad swing state polls. I am really bad. 00:58:24.410 --> 00:58:25.570 What do I mean by really bad? 00:58:25.910 --> 00:58:32.990 They're still really close, but more that have narrow Trump leads and less that 00:58:32.990 --> 00:58:36.030 have narrow Harris leads. They're narrow regardless. 00:58:36.510 --> 00:58:41.550 But, you know, with my current averages out without those 40 new polls that 00:58:41.550 --> 00:58:47.350 I just mentioned, you know, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are both on the Trump side of the line. 00:58:47.350 --> 00:58:51.710 Barely barely like we got pennsylvania at 00:58:51.710 --> 00:58:55.050 0.3 percent and wisconsin at 0.4 00:58:55.050 --> 00:58:58.270 percent trump leads in my in my five 00:58:58.270 --> 00:59:03.490 poll averages these new polls will change that they will toss up it's basically 00:59:03.490 --> 00:59:08.250 a toss-up but like they're they had spent most of the time for the last couple 00:59:08.250 --> 00:59:13.090 months on the harris side of the center line right now they're on the trump 00:59:13.090 --> 00:59:15.170 side of the center line but Just barely. 00:59:15.750 --> 00:59:21.010 Okay. Now, let me say this. Let me say this. 00:59:21.330 --> 00:59:25.010 First of all, like last week, we talked about how a bunch of them are low quality pollsters. 00:59:25.270 --> 00:59:29.550 There are a couple higher quality pollsters that weighed in like Quinnipiac 00:59:29.550 --> 00:59:31.470 and Emerson and a couple others. 00:59:31.990 --> 00:59:40.050 And they're all those sort of agreed with the smaller pollsters that have less reputation. 00:59:40.050 --> 00:59:45.030 But like the latest things that I saw like I scanned through the 40 even though 00:59:45.030 --> 00:59:49.530 I haven't put them in yet I think Pennsylvania is going to look look a little 00:59:49.530 --> 00:59:53.310 bit more blue after I put them in but Michigan and Wisconsin are going to look 00:59:53.310 --> 00:59:59.210 a little bit more red after I put them in the bottom line is they're so so close but like. 00:59:59.820 --> 01:00:05.600 I want the trend to reverse. We absolutely know, like, look, you know, exactly. 01:00:05.940 --> 01:00:08.880 First of all, the bottom line is it's too close to call. 01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:12.320 It's too close to call. A little bit on the red side is not all that different 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:13.980 from a little bit on the blue side. 01:00:14.340 --> 01:00:19.980 However, coupled with the last few elections have underestimated the Republicans a bit. 01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:26.540 I really would feel much, much, much better if we had a situation where the 01:00:26.540 --> 01:00:29.260 tipping point was on the Harris side of the line. 01:00:29.940 --> 01:00:35.000 By like one or 2% than right now where the tipping point is on the Trump side 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:41.380 of the line by about 0.4%. And, you know, again, this, when I enter the latest 01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:42.640 set of polls, it'll change. 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.720 And then there'll be more polls on Friday and more polls on Saturday and more polls on Sunday. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:51.720 This is going to all wiggle around. The bottom line is just too close to call, 01:00:51.860 --> 01:01:00.140 but I still like I, a month ago, Harris was looking stronger than she does now. 01:01:00.560 --> 01:01:05.280 And I would prefer to be back there than where we are now. 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:09.580 Like, you know, it's sort of like we were, 01:01:09.860 --> 01:01:16.380 yeah, for most of the time since August, if you looked at everything, 01:01:16.380 --> 01:01:22.380 it's been a very narrow Harris lead when you do all the state by state poll averages like I do. 01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:27.560 So it makes me nervous when right now it's a very narrow Trump lead instead. 01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.740 Either way, it's very narrow, but I'd rather it be on the other side. 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:33.300 And that's roughly where we are. 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.780 One of the things, so we've been talking about the polls and the quality, 01:01:36.780 --> 01:01:38.780 and there was this article from 01:01:38.780 --> 01:01:42.420 the Tilt in the New York Times that I'd shared, like it was October 6th. 01:01:42.700 --> 01:01:47.400 And the headline on it was, how one polling decision is leading to two distinct 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:48.400 stories of the election. 01:01:48.620 --> 01:01:49.240 Yes, yes. 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:55.180 And it talked about the methodological decisions that seem to have produced 01:01:55.180 --> 01:01:58.680 two parallel universes of political polling. And, 01:01:59.420 --> 01:02:03.160 And it's, it is this thing about weighing on recalled vote. 01:02:03.740 --> 01:02:04.100 Yes. 01:02:04.260 --> 01:02:07.820 Which means that you're trying to account for how voters say they voted in the last election. 01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:14.540 Yeah, basically what you're doing is you're asking everybody how they voted in 2020, 01:02:14.540 --> 01:02:22.580 and then you wait all of your responses to try to get it to match the actual 01:02:22.580 --> 01:02:28.980 election results in 2020 because you sort of are taking that as a baseline that 01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:32.680 like if you wait that, then everything else should wait. 01:02:32.680 --> 01:02:35.500 Then you're sort of measuring who changed their mind since last time, 01:02:35.540 --> 01:02:38.900 and maybe that'll be more accurate than other ways of waiting. 01:02:39.300 --> 01:02:43.840 And part of what Nate Cohn discussed in this article you're talking about is 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.740 most of the time in the past, 01:02:46.980 --> 01:02:55.540 waiting this way has been considered to be a very, very bad idea and would get wrong answers a lot. 01:02:55.540 --> 01:03:01.520 But a lot of but a lot of pollsters are doing it this time basically because 01:03:01.520 --> 01:03:06.840 they're like, hey, we got the Trump thing wrong two elections in a row. 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.700 Maybe this will fix it. Can I summarize that correctly? 01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:17.300 Yes, that is correct. And, you know, and that's exactly what it is. 01:03:17.300 --> 01:03:21.640 The reality is that, well, it's a big decision, okay, all right, 01:03:21.820 --> 01:03:26.660 and it does make a lot of, and it does impact the poll significantly. 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:34.020 And so, what it would do is that if you went and you shifted from that methodology 01:03:34.020 --> 01:03:37.800 to actually doing it based on the result, 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:45.140 I mean, it moves a lot of things towards the Harris side of the ledger, substantially. 01:03:45.140 --> 01:03:51.620 Well and so yeah except that example in florida you know where it went the other way. 01:03:52.740 --> 01:03:54.380 I don't even understand what the. 01:03:54.380 --> 01:04:00.640 Hell there was a sienna poll that nate conant the new york times also used as 01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:07.420 an example of this effect that ev like all the not counting this poll the polling 01:04:07.420 --> 01:04:10.120 average in florida had trump ahead 01:04:10.120 --> 01:04:13.840 by just under five percent four or five percent right four yeah Yeah, 01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:16.240 the low end three, if he got lucky. 01:04:16.260 --> 01:04:17.780 Yeah, it was about 4%. 01:04:17.780 --> 01:04:23.540 Or if Harris... Yeah, I mean, my averages had dipped down as low as three, 01:04:23.740 --> 01:04:27.740 but had been back up to four or five by the time this Siena poll came out. 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:33.000 But the point is, the range things were going on was... 01:04:34.330 --> 01:04:42.550 Was under five, but all of a sudden Sienna comes in as like, Trump's ahead by 14. 01:04:42.910 --> 01:04:47.050 14. And we're all like, come on. 01:04:47.410 --> 01:04:50.350 And it's like nowhere near the rest. 01:04:50.450 --> 01:04:54.190 Like I'm, I'm looking at my, my chart for Florida right now. 01:04:54.190 --> 01:04:58.250 I mean, before this came in and, and, and I say 14, 01:04:58.470 --> 01:05:01.910 but actually They released like five different versions of the poll, 01:05:02.090 --> 01:05:07.530 depending on likely or registered, whether you include leaners or you don't, 01:05:07.670 --> 01:05:11.210 whether you include third parties or not. 01:05:11.390 --> 01:05:15.750 They ranged from 11% to 14%, depending on which view you looked at. 01:05:15.930 --> 01:05:26.030 But before that, the previous polls were 4%, 6%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 4%, 5%, 2%, 1%. 01:05:26.030 --> 01:05:31.190 There was one poll that added down to 1%. You know, and so like, it's like, 01:05:31.470 --> 01:05:37.750 and this supposedly is the poll that Nate Cohn was using as an example of not 01:05:37.750 --> 01:05:42.090 doing this waiting that everybody else is doing. 01:05:42.230 --> 01:05:44.350 And it moved everything in the opposite direction. 01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:50.630 So I don't know. The other thing that Nate Cohn also did in the New York Times 01:05:50.630 --> 01:05:52.910 last time around in 2020, 01:05:53.330 --> 01:05:56.550 I think it was 2020, maybe it was even 2016, but I think it was 2020, 01:05:56.850 --> 01:06:03.290 where they took one actual poll and they shared the raw data. 01:06:04.260 --> 01:06:11.220 I think it was three different polling companies to use their own weighting 01:06:11.220 --> 01:06:14.500 methodologies on the same data. 01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:21.240 And there was a massive spread between what, and I don't remember the numbers 01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:26.120 because this was years ago, but there was a massive spread of variation based 01:06:26.120 --> 01:06:29.520 exclusively not on the poll data itself, 01:06:29.980 --> 01:06:33.240 not on the random sampling they did, nothing like that. 01:06:33.240 --> 01:06:37.580 But on the analysis that they did to wait it before coming to a conclusion, 01:06:37.580 --> 01:06:44.080 because all pollsters these days have to they can't just like call a million people, 01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:50.580 get a thousand to actually answer the phone and then just divide and do the math. 01:06:50.580 --> 01:06:53.520 Like because the people who are 01:06:53.520 --> 01:06:57.180 responding to the phone aren't necessarily 01:06:57.180 --> 01:07:04.380 representative of the electorate and you have to adjust it to try to match them 01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:11.720 up but that's like that's i mean i i i want to use a nicer term but it's guesswork 01:07:11.720 --> 01:07:16.580 you are guessing what the final electorate is going to turn out, 01:07:16.740 --> 01:07:19.460 you're guessing what turnout is like. 01:07:19.560 --> 01:07:24.940 You're guessing questions like, does the youth vote actually turn out this time around? 01:07:25.180 --> 01:07:27.600 Or do they go back to like they used to be in previous years? 01:07:27.740 --> 01:07:30.740 Because the youth vote was really high in 2020 and 2022. 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:35.520 Abnormally high. Is it abnormally high again? Or is it low again? 01:07:35.660 --> 01:07:38.540 Like it was in previous years. And you're guessing. 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:42.720 Well, part of the problem is that that is the thing about this. 01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:47.340 And that's what makes this, because we don't have large margins. 01:07:48.540 --> 01:07:54.120 Is why this damn thing makes it that it's so fucking unpredictable. 01:07:54.500 --> 01:07:59.700 Right. Like, yeah. And it's because it's so close that you, like, 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:04.280 polling can tell you, like, if somebody is winning 60-40, okay. 01:08:04.660 --> 01:08:06.680 Oh, you know, whatever, fine. Yeah. 01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:11.500 You know who's going to win. And polling can give you a really good idea about that. 01:08:11.700 --> 01:08:19.520 But if it's really damn close to 50-50, polling just doesn't know. And like, yeah. 01:08:19.660 --> 01:08:24.900 And like the kind of probabilistic stuff I do on my site tries to like compensate 01:08:24.900 --> 01:08:28.560 for that a little bit by how much they've been off by in the past. 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.800 But it's still like, you know, okay. 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:35.960 If you, if you have like, like right now, you know, okay. 01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:40.380 I have, you know, Harris having like a 30% chance, but a 30, 01:08:40.580 --> 01:08:46.880 70% chance is still like, oh, sorry. 01:08:47.860 --> 01:08:52.080 Sorry, that was, I was trying to, I was trying to find a robo-taxi launch. 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:56.500 I have that ready. I'm sorry. Shut up, phone. 01:08:57.220 --> 01:09:04.080 Anyway, no, a 30% chance is, yeah, okay, Trump at 70% is favored, 01:09:04.080 --> 01:09:07.520 but 30% is, easily happens. 01:09:07.900 --> 01:09:13.180 It's not like, it's not like, if the underdog wins in that situation, 01:09:13.300 --> 01:09:16.540 nobody's surprised. Yeah, it was the underdog winning, but it was, 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.160 it was a conceivable thing. 01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:21.040 It's not like, yeah, you're, you're going to be shocked at it. 01:09:21.160 --> 01:09:26.380 Oh my God, they, they won. And also because everything's so close and dependent 01:09:26.380 --> 01:09:28.720 on like this week's polling. 01:09:29.500 --> 01:09:33.940 And what was in the field, like things are moving around. Like it could, 01:09:34.040 --> 01:09:37.780 it could be radically different in a few days. And so, I don't know. 01:09:37.900 --> 01:09:44.340 And this is why like the big pollsters often like their trend lines are very smoothed out. 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:48.380 So like things don't move very quickly on election graphs. 01:09:48.580 --> 01:09:52.160 I'm set up so that things do move quickly and that the pros and cons of that. 01:09:52.240 --> 01:09:57.180 The con is, of course, a few outliers can throw me way off for a few days until 01:09:57.180 --> 01:09:58.840 they age out of my averages. 01:10:00.300 --> 01:10:06.500 The pro, though, is I can pick up changes faster than the people who are averaging 01:10:06.500 --> 01:10:07.620 over long periods of time. 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:12.380 It's one of the reasons why election graphs was one of the few places that saw 01:10:12.380 --> 01:10:14.900 the last-minute move towards Clinton in 2016. 01:10:15.380 --> 01:10:16.980 But whatever. 01:10:17.580 --> 01:10:21.920 On polling, one thing I saw – I don't know if I mentioned this on the show before. 01:10:22.080 --> 01:10:23.980 I was having an out-of-show conversation. 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.620 But i saw an article 01:10:27.620 --> 01:10:31.020 and i won't be able to remember the reference but there 01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:34.760 is a group that 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.660 has had a huge amount of success in 01:10:38.660 --> 01:10:41.540 predicting some they they're not involved they're not 01:10:41.540 --> 01:10:44.560 trying to do the u.s presidential election right now but they've done some 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.240 local elections in like europe okay yeah 01:10:48.240 --> 01:10:52.920 and they have gotten some predictions that 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.700 were super super close to the 01:10:55.700 --> 01:10:58.540 actual answer like not only within like a percent 01:10:58.540 --> 01:11:01.660 or two but within like a couple hundred votes of the 01:11:01.660 --> 01:11:04.640 actual answer and they're not doing 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.720 polling at all the way they are 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:11.300 doing it is they are doing they 01:11:11.300 --> 01:11:16.660 they They do a demographic model and then they do a simulation where they make 01:11:16.660 --> 01:11:25.660 a little AI model of every human and try to predict based on everything they 01:11:25.660 --> 01:11:30.120 can find out about that user or user about that person. 01:11:30.300 --> 01:11:34.440 Because, you know, these are actual people and you can find out information about them online. 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:39.140 You can find out, you know, by scanning their social media, do they seem to 01:11:39.140 --> 01:11:45.400 lean Republican or Democrat? You can find out their age and their race and their 01:11:45.400 --> 01:11:48.220 sex and where they went to school. 01:11:48.380 --> 01:11:50.760 You can find out all kinds of information about these people. 01:11:50.860 --> 01:11:57.520 And basically, they build a simulation of each actual individual voter and try 01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.240 to predict how that voter is going to vote. 01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:03.320 And then they run this simulation, and they've apparently gotten very, 01:12:03.420 --> 01:12:05.100 very close to the real answers. 01:12:05.940 --> 01:12:08.380 Because they're predicting not only how they're going to vote, 01:12:08.420 --> 01:12:09.820 but if they're going to vote as well. 01:12:11.240 --> 01:12:16.200 Okay and so i don't know i i just think that's that it's interesting cool and 01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:21.040 a little bit scary you know because they're basic you know because you know 01:12:21.040 --> 01:12:24.880 look at yvonne's social media you know he's voting for harris, 01:12:25.510 --> 01:12:27.790 If they could listen to the podcast. 01:12:28.390 --> 01:12:31.790 Fuck. I mean, if they thought I was voting for Trump, then Jesus Christ, 01:12:31.890 --> 01:12:33.830 they need to take some psychedelic drugs. 01:12:34.950 --> 01:12:38.190 Okay. So that's it for polling. Still too close to call. 01:12:38.390 --> 01:12:43.810 Although, again, the summary, things have been a little too Trumpy in the last 01:12:43.810 --> 01:12:46.170 couple of polls. I'd really rather them do something else. 01:12:46.390 --> 01:12:47.570 There was one comment. 01:12:47.590 --> 01:12:49.590 And I was going to move on to other politics. Yeah, go ahead. 01:12:49.770 --> 01:12:54.490 But before, there was one comment that you made online, if I remember correctly. 01:12:54.490 --> 01:12:58.110 He said something that if they waterboarded 01:12:58.110 --> 01:13:05.910 you yes you would you you would you know you would confess that you think that 01:13:05.910 --> 01:13:10.650 you think that based on all of this mathematical shenanigans that we're talking 01:13:10.650 --> 01:13:15.770 about that you think that they're underestimating no not. 01:13:15.770 --> 01:13:18.590 On the mathematical shenanigans. On the mathematical shenanigans. 01:13:19.210 --> 01:13:21.110 On the mathematical shenanigans. 01:13:21.250 --> 01:13:22.210 On the methodology. 01:13:23.590 --> 01:13:26.870 My just gut feel about looking at everything. 01:13:27.330 --> 01:13:32.570 And I have no rigorous logic behind it at all. It's just a gut feel. 01:13:32.850 --> 01:13:33.230 Right, right, right. 01:13:33.330 --> 01:13:39.450 And I think I said this on last week's show, actually. I believe that it is 01:13:39.450 --> 01:13:44.090 more likely that they're underestimating Harris than they're underestimating Trump. 01:13:44.090 --> 01:13:49.850 And a big part of that is, first of all, there's all the shenanigans we just 01:13:49.850 --> 01:13:53.890 talked about, about like how they're doing weighting and methodology and blah, blah, blah. 01:13:54.030 --> 01:13:58.050 But also just the enthusiasm gap that seems to be really obvious. 01:13:58.570 --> 01:14:03.290 Like, you know, it's not you can a you can compare the rallies and that's not 01:14:03.290 --> 01:14:04.830 really you can't really tell. 01:14:04.830 --> 01:14:13.510 But also so many anecdotal stories that I've been hearing about how places that 01:14:13.510 --> 01:14:21.650 four years ago were coated with Trump flags and Trump posters and whatever and 01:14:21.650 --> 01:14:24.350 are just empty right now, 01:14:24.490 --> 01:14:27.850 which is not saying those people aren't necessarily going to vote for Trump, 01:14:27.890 --> 01:14:30.930 but they're not as excited about it as they were. 01:14:31.470 --> 01:14:33.110 And the same thing is true. 01:14:33.110 --> 01:14:38.790 A more factual thing, which is totally true, difference between 2016 and now. 01:14:39.390 --> 01:14:39.530 Yeah. 01:14:39.790 --> 01:14:42.270 I think that leading up to 2016, 01:14:42.270 --> 01:14:48.230 we've been talking about how Trump has emboldened all the racists. Okay? 01:14:48.570 --> 01:14:48.830 Yeah. 01:14:49.350 --> 01:14:54.330 You know, we talked a lot about how a lot of people said that, 01:14:54.670 --> 01:14:58.290 oh, when they asked me about it, I really don't want to admit that. 01:14:58.860 --> 01:15:01.760 You know, that I was supporting Trump. Okay. 01:15:01.900 --> 01:15:01.980 Right. 01:15:02.740 --> 01:15:08.820 But we have gone from that to where these guys basically just, 01:15:08.820 --> 01:15:12.020 you know, we'll paint it on their chest and, 01:15:12.540 --> 01:15:17.000 you know, whatever, and carry around a flag and stickers and, 01:15:17.140 --> 01:15:20.260 you know, tattoo their ass with Trump's name. 01:15:20.900 --> 01:15:25.700 I'm sure somebody tattooed Trump. I'm sure on his ass and, you know, 01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.420 on everywhere in their body, because I've seen a whole bunch of them. 01:15:28.420 --> 01:15:29.920 It's just, They're probably a 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.140 whole bunch doing the Roger Stone treatment like he has Nixon on his back. 01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:37.820 Nixon on his dick. Exactly. Well, yeah. Well, no, I thought it was Nixon on his dick. 01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:42.580 Roger Stone has Nixon on his back. Now, he may have Nixon other places, 01:15:42.580 --> 01:15:44.500 too, but he certainly has it on his back. 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:48.580 I thought he said he... I've seen pictures. No, no, no, but I thought it was 01:15:48.580 --> 01:15:49.880 a tattoo on his dick, too. 01:15:50.020 --> 01:15:53.800 I have not seen pictures of that. I've seen pictures of the one on his back. 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.560 I have not seen pictures of that either, and I don't want to, 01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:01.260 by the way. Let me be clear. If anybody has it, don't send it to us. 01:16:01.500 --> 01:16:05.100 You can just show up at one of the Roger Stone swinger parties, too. 01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.360 Oh, God, no. Jesus. Well, actually, if I showed up to one of those, 01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:11.300 just punch him dead in the face. Would that be OK? 01:16:12.040 --> 01:16:16.160 I think if there is a guy that I would meet that I would probably risk getting 01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:18.880 arrested for assault, it's Roger Stone. 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.220 You should punch him in the Nixon instead. Yeah. 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:24.360 One of them. 01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:28.020 That's not a bad idea. I could start there. First kick him there and then punch him. 01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:33.000 There you go. Anyway, so what were you saying? 01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:37.160 You were saying the more data-driven reason why you think it's blah, blah, blah. 01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:41.940 No, what I was mentioning is that before the 2016 election, 01:16:42.220 --> 01:16:48.060 I think that there was definitely an effect of people not wanting to, 01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:53.340 you know, not publicly wanting to declare their love of Trump. 01:16:53.340 --> 01:16:58.360 Whereas now you're on the other end where people that are Trump's have no problem 01:16:58.360 --> 01:17:03.500 declaring it loud and proud, wearing it on their head, wearing it on stuff. 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:10.220 I mean, I still keep getting shocked by people that I think it's I will say 01:17:10.220 --> 01:17:14.020 that I think I've got 90 plus percent of people that I think that that that 01:17:14.020 --> 01:17:16.620 I that I knew that or Trumpy like Trump. 01:17:16.620 --> 01:17:21.600 But still, I occasionally get surprised by this one person that I. 01:17:22.020 --> 01:17:24.160 You know, actually, I probably was on the fence. 01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:28.820 I wasn't sure that also just recently goes and puts themselves in a fucking 01:17:28.820 --> 01:17:31.600 picture on social media with a Trump hat on. 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.860 And I'm like immediately at that point where I'm just like, OK, 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.660 I never want to see your fucking face again. 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:40.580 Thank you. Just just because I don't even have that many friends on social media. 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:44.200 So, you know, I got maybe a couple under 500. so 01:17:44.200 --> 01:17:47.120 what i don't i don't need i don't need that 01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:50.340 guy there so i but but but this 01:17:50.340 --> 01:17:53.300 is something that happens now where i got yeah i 01:17:53.300 --> 01:17:59.380 see people like going to like fucking like beach parties wearing trump hats 01:17:59.380 --> 01:18:04.660 i'm just like what the fuck is with these people but well like i said although 01:18:04.660 --> 01:18:09.200 i think those people but my point is that they are loud and proud now so i don't 01:18:09.200 --> 01:18:10.900 think that there is something that... 01:18:10.900 --> 01:18:13.500 Do you think they're less so now than 2020, though? 01:18:14.780 --> 01:18:15.680 Like, what do you mean? 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:16.380 So what? 01:18:16.900 --> 01:18:21.500 Like, then 2020, like, I know you were saying 2016 and the shy voters, 01:18:21.700 --> 01:18:24.820 they came out and were much more vocal in 2020. 01:18:25.220 --> 01:18:27.820 Do you think that's receded a little bit at this point? 01:18:28.200 --> 01:18:28.220 No. 01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:29.220 Okay. 01:18:29.540 --> 01:18:30.960 Nothing. No, no. 01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:35.420 So then you think, I think, I think you think they're less like the people who 01:18:35.420 --> 01:18:40.140 are loud and proud are still loud and proud, but there are a lot of people who are sort of like, yeah. 01:18:40.280 --> 01:18:43.880 And I think that's, I think that's the case. I mean, and again, 01:18:44.020 --> 01:18:48.220 I keep hearing these anecdotal stories and the reason you'd have to waterboard 01:18:48.220 --> 01:18:52.820 me for me to say this, well, I guess I've said it, but like the reason I don't 01:18:52.820 --> 01:18:54.580 like put it on my election graph. 01:18:54.580 --> 01:18:56.360 Yeah, I didn't have to do that. There you go. 01:18:56.460 --> 01:18:56.740 You did have to walk. 01:18:56.740 --> 01:19:00.280 I'm actually happy that I didn't. I'm really happy that I didn't have to waterboard 01:19:00.280 --> 01:19:02.740 you for the answers. Okay. I am glad. Yes. 01:19:02.740 --> 01:19:07.360 The reason why I won't inject this into my election graphs analysis, 01:19:07.360 --> 01:19:12.840 where I'm going to stick to the numbers on election graphs and with the range 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:16.180 of variation that the polls have had historically, is because, 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:21.160 again, and we've mentioned this briefly before, but there's so much room for 01:19:21.160 --> 01:19:22.400 motivated thinking here. 01:19:22.400 --> 01:19:27.420 Like I, I see all these anecdotes of like, oh, people who are like, 01:19:27.580 --> 01:19:33.660 you know, they were diehard Trump supporters and now they're either sitting 01:19:33.660 --> 01:19:35.480 it out or they're going for Harris. 01:19:35.860 --> 01:19:39.700 And I hear more of those stories and I hear people like making questions. 01:19:40.650 --> 01:19:45.190 Making TikToks or whatever about how their previous Trumpy neighborhood now 01:19:45.190 --> 01:19:48.350 no longer has lots of flags and signs like it used to. 01:19:48.610 --> 01:19:54.730 And I'm like, yeah, okay. But am I seeing these because that's what I want to see? 01:19:55.030 --> 01:20:00.810 And meanwhile, there are plenty of neighborhoods where that stuff is just as strong as it used to. 01:20:00.930 --> 01:20:04.330 And even in the neighborhoods where it's less strong, maybe those are, 01:20:04.470 --> 01:20:09.330 maybe they didn't put that on the sign, but they're still going to vote for it. You know, and look. 01:20:09.370 --> 01:20:13.910 I think that the thing is how to empirically measure this. Right. 01:20:13.990 --> 01:20:14.110 Yeah. 01:20:14.190 --> 01:20:16.130 And it's and it's very difficult. 01:20:16.570 --> 01:20:20.790 Well, that's where you get to the polls have it too close. Right. 01:20:21.010 --> 01:20:30.090 And it goes because even when we, you know, because you could take data from 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022. 01:20:30.710 --> 01:20:35.530 And you can see the shifts, you know, in voting and in locations. 01:20:35.530 --> 01:20:40.850 But one thing that we know from past experience is that midterm election voting 01:20:40.850 --> 01:20:44.870 doesn't necessarily directly translate into general election voting. 01:20:45.110 --> 01:20:46.130 It's a different group of people who show up. 01:20:47.150 --> 01:20:51.610 It's a different group of people, you know, and you've seen trends and sometimes 01:20:51.610 --> 01:20:58.070 those trends do translate, but you can't, but there isn't a track record where that is the case. 01:20:58.790 --> 01:21:03.350 And so it's tough to go and look and say, okay, look, we know what's happened 01:21:03.350 --> 01:21:05.550 since 2020. We've seen every special election. 01:21:05.690 --> 01:21:09.190 We know the details. We know how Democrats have won consistently. 01:21:09.530 --> 01:21:13.110 But historically, that hasn't directly translated into presidential. 01:21:13.370 --> 01:21:16.950 It doesn't mean that it's not an influencing factor. And it's why I think that 01:21:16.950 --> 01:21:19.830 you and I keep speculating that maybe we're undercounting. 01:21:20.050 --> 01:21:24.490 But at the same time, we can't really say that, 01:21:25.290 --> 01:21:30.310 that that data those data points actually translate into something something 01:21:30.310 --> 01:21:33.710 that directly correlates to the general election. 01:21:33.710 --> 01:21:36.510 For we won't know till we won't know till 01:21:36.510 --> 01:21:39.310 they start counting the votes you know and and 01:21:39.310 --> 01:21:42.970 that that we won't know that's the bottom line with this scenario right now 01:21:42.970 --> 01:21:46.850 and and i we spent a lot of time last week talking about that doesn't necessarily 01:21:46.850 --> 01:21:50.970 mean the actual result of the election is going to be super close it might be 01:21:50.970 --> 01:21:57.170 but the problem is it might be Within the data we have now, 01:21:57.410 --> 01:22:00.370 it could also be a really healthy Trump win. 01:22:00.510 --> 01:22:05.470 It could also be a really healthy Harris win. And it's even possible that one 01:22:05.470 --> 01:22:06.970 or the other would have a landslide. 01:22:08.630 --> 01:22:10.690 It's just that we don't know. 01:22:11.930 --> 01:22:12.890 We don't know. 01:22:13.850 --> 01:22:20.370 And I really would feel so much better if in these last few weeks, 01:22:20.370 --> 01:22:24.110 how many days now is this stupid thing less than. 01:22:24.110 --> 01:22:25.270 30 20 something. 01:22:25.270 --> 01:22:28.770 Yeah it is as 01:22:28.770 --> 01:22:31.950 of this moment 25.8 days as 01:22:31.950 --> 01:22:38.610 we're recording till we're done and and yeah i would feel so much better if 01:22:38.610 --> 01:22:43.470 some if harris was able to like pull out like another four or five percent out 01:22:43.470 --> 01:22:49.770 of her ass or something but i don't i don't think it's gonna happen yeah you know uh is. 01:22:49.770 --> 01:22:53.850 And here's the thing, like we've talked about again, it's not a popular vote thing. 01:22:54.090 --> 01:23:01.150 I mean, even like the consistently, the national popular vote polls show that Harris is ahead. 01:23:01.510 --> 01:23:01.950 Right. 01:23:02.090 --> 01:23:06.270 You know, by what margin is the question? But she's ahead. She's ahead. 01:23:06.370 --> 01:23:07.730 She's ahead. She's ahead. She's ahead. 01:23:07.730 --> 01:23:11.650 It has declined a little bit in the last couple of weeks, but she's ahead. 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:16.680 She's ahead. Okay. She's solidly ahead. So, but you know. 01:23:17.620 --> 01:23:21.460 So let's move on. Let's move on from polling and stuff and talk about some of 01:23:21.460 --> 01:23:24.640 the, the other things that are going wrong. 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:28.460 They're going wrong, going on, not necessarily wrong. 01:23:29.400 --> 01:23:34.960 Like I did want to mention one of the things Harris has been doing. 01:23:35.500 --> 01:23:40.140 People have been complaining. Oh, you're not doing enough interviews. 01:23:40.140 --> 01:23:41.820 You're not talking to the press. 01:23:41.980 --> 01:23:44.180 You're not answering hard questions, blah, blah, blah. 01:23:44.660 --> 01:23:50.400 This week, she went on an interview blitz. She was all over the place. 01:23:51.620 --> 01:23:56.320 She's been on Howard Stern. She's been on this Call Her Daddy podcast thing, 01:23:56.420 --> 01:24:01.740 which I'd never heard of before, but is apparently really, really popular with under 35 women. 01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:02.040 Another thing we don't know about. 01:24:02.900 --> 01:24:05.740 She was on 60 Minutes. She was on... 01:24:06.400 --> 01:24:08.320 And Trump declined to be on 60 Minutes. 01:24:08.440 --> 01:24:11.440 Trump declined. she was on Colbert she was 01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:14.260 on she was on all over the place right now I 01:24:14.260 --> 01:24:16.940 still heard complaints that she's on the 01:24:16.940 --> 01:24:19.720 wrong places like she's not 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:26.800 doing serious news blah blah blah now come on 60 minutes 60 minutes really but 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:32.940 but okay fine but all these others she was like those are fluffy those are soft 01:24:32.940 --> 01:24:39.280 those are whatever and I'm like come on you you fucking asshole people like first of all like, 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:46.900 When she has been on serious news things, for the most part, 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:48.900 I think 60 Minutes was a little bit better. 01:24:49.060 --> 01:24:55.960 But some of the other ones she has done, it's been trying to ask her to respond to Trump nonsense. 01:24:56.360 --> 01:25:01.800 Or it's been trying to do gotchas on like, hey, your position eight years ago 01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:04.740 was slightly different than your position today. What do you have to say about 01:25:04.740 --> 01:25:05.880 that? And stuff like that. 01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:12.320 And it wasn't, it's not really, I don't, you know, people are like, 01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:15.980 make her talk about the issues and detail and policy and blah, 01:25:16.060 --> 01:25:17.280 blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, look. 01:25:17.970 --> 01:25:21.790 If you really want policy, it's all out there. You can go find it. Okay? 01:25:22.150 --> 01:25:26.590 But this is not how people decide elections. 01:25:26.910 --> 01:25:32.030 What you want to know about, you want to know about her values and you want 01:25:32.030 --> 01:25:33.230 to know about her character. 01:25:33.830 --> 01:25:35.150 That's what you want to know. 01:25:36.790 --> 01:25:42.050 Every day, the policy doesn't matter. Every fucking day Trump comes out. 01:25:42.190 --> 01:25:42.510 Maybe competence. 01:25:42.850 --> 01:25:45.830 With some, well, but yeah. 01:25:45.990 --> 01:25:49.810 And none of it applies to Trump, of course. Yes. Yes. Like, because he's, 01:25:49.890 --> 01:25:54.530 he's a battling moron with no, with no competence whatsoever, 01:25:54.530 --> 01:25:56.370 with no character whatsoever. 01:25:56.530 --> 01:26:00.650 And he's, and it's still a goddamn toss up election, but like, 01:26:00.910 --> 01:26:05.070 but what, what gets people about Trump though, the people who do like Trump 01:26:05.070 --> 01:26:09.870 like him because they like that kind of personality and they like that. 01:26:09.990 --> 01:26:16.230 They feel like they like he idiots. They like idiots, but they also feel like 01:26:16.230 --> 01:26:23.290 he hates the same people they hate, you know, and that matters to them. 01:26:23.630 --> 01:26:29.730 And he's going to poke the liberals in the eye and—, 01:26:32.050 --> 01:26:33.610 Let's be clear about this. 01:26:33.730 --> 01:26:38.210 We're talking about, you know, yeah, yeah, these guys are complaining this week 01:26:38.210 --> 01:26:43.110 about Trump policy. Bob Woodward came out with a apparently or is coming out 01:26:43.110 --> 01:26:47.350 with a book with a new book right with a new book and let's see, 01:26:48.070 --> 01:26:52.750 Trump was shipping fucking COVID tests to Putin. 01:26:53.170 --> 01:26:56.430 Now, and I want to be very careful when we say this, because everybody, 01:26:56.670 --> 01:27:01.170 when the first headline comes out, you think, oh, you send in the little boxes of the home tests. 01:27:01.410 --> 01:27:05.430 No, he was sending the really expensive, large 01:27:05.430 --> 01:27:12.190 hospital quality tests that were in very short supply at the very beginning 01:27:12.190 --> 01:27:17.850 of the pandemic that governors and hospitals were fighting to try to get so 01:27:17.850 --> 01:27:23.470 they could do real-time quick analysis of who had COVID and who didn't in the 01:27:23.470 --> 01:27:24.770 early stages of the pandemic. 01:27:24.970 --> 01:27:31.990 This was before the little home tests. This was before all that he was sending. Go ahead. 01:27:32.350 --> 01:27:37.090 I mean, let's see. What else did he do? Oh, he's been calling Putin all the 01:27:37.090 --> 01:27:40.350 time, like right now, ever since we... 01:27:40.350 --> 01:27:47.690 Hey, buddy! Now, Putin, by the way, Putin's spokesman confirmed the thing with 01:27:47.690 --> 01:27:50.030 the tests, but said the phone calls haven't been happening. 01:27:51.870 --> 01:27:55.510 Now, take what you want out of Putin's spokesman said. 01:27:56.150 --> 01:28:01.910 Exactly. Thank you very much. I mean, what the hell else? 01:28:02.030 --> 01:28:04.230 I mean, it's just... 01:28:05.270 --> 01:28:07.630 The double standard is amazing. 01:28:07.990 --> 01:28:13.690 You know, an entire range of egregious fucking bullshit. 01:28:13.690 --> 01:28:20.170 I mean, this motherfucker was shipping critical medical equipment that we needed 01:28:20.170 --> 01:28:23.130 to a thug that is out to destroy this country. 01:28:24.690 --> 01:28:32.550 Now, Yvonne, you could say it was an important sort of diplomatic way to improve 01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:38.130 relations and get some trust and try to work a deal with him. 01:28:38.690 --> 01:28:39.350 Uh-huh. 01:28:39.930 --> 01:28:43.790 Now, Putin, apparently, the other thing that Woodward reported is Putin specifically 01:28:43.790 --> 01:28:45.690 told Donald, don't tell anybody about this. 01:28:46.290 --> 01:28:48.190 Yes. I wonder why. Why? 01:28:52.200 --> 01:28:53.640 Um i mean. 01:28:53.640 --> 01:29:00.360 I mean and they mentioned how going to mar-a-lago is like going to north korea 01:29:00.360 --> 01:29:03.060 i actually i don't know if i mentioned this i i was this. 01:29:03.060 --> 01:29:04.420 This was a lindsey graham quote. 01:29:05.160 --> 01:29:12.780 Yeah i i actually got somebody invited me to mar-a-lago like about eight months ago, 01:29:13.660 --> 01:29:17.460 somewhere along that and i looked at him like are 01:29:17.460 --> 01:29:20.060 you out of your no i looked at him i said this are you out 01:29:20.060 --> 01:29:23.940 of your fucking mind i wouldn't be caught dead in mar-a-lago but 01:29:23.940 --> 01:29:29.480 i i hear people you know the man people 01:29:29.480 --> 01:29:32.220 that are it's like a magnet for grifters right now 01:29:32.220 --> 01:29:35.100 it's like a magnet for grifters let me 01:29:35.100 --> 01:29:38.240 change that it's a magnet for grifters it is 01:29:38.240 --> 01:29:44.720 the ultimate grifter magnet i mean you know as we're talking about this i don't 01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:48.720 know he was selling some other shit this week i can't remember what the latest 01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:53.740 one another scammy thing this week it wasn't what the fuck what did the yeah 01:29:53.740 --> 01:29:55.660 we talked we talked about. 01:29:55.660 --> 01:30:01.340 The watches last week there were there were the coins there were the coins. 01:30:01.340 --> 01:30:04.580 Yeah we had the coin uh there's there's a 01:30:04.580 --> 01:30:08.260 crypto thing um so there 01:30:08.260 --> 01:30:11.080 was another there was another scam this week i 01:30:11.080 --> 01:30:14.200 can't remember what the hell it was right well 01:30:14.200 --> 01:30:17.000 there's so many it's like it's like 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:20.040 you keep losing track every fucking week it's 01:30:20.040 --> 01:30:22.880 like some other fucking you know 01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:26.080 scam thing that he's selling 01:30:26.080 --> 01:30:28.820 i just i don't and and you know you 01:30:28.820 --> 01:30:33.240 talk about the double standard thing i mean what fucking 01:30:33.240 --> 01:30:36.880 president that every week announces like selling bibles 01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:41.820 made in china for three dollars okay so he's got those okay mister i hate hate 01:30:41.820 --> 01:30:48.980 the china bibles what we had elon paying 47 per person to register to vote was 01:30:48.980 --> 01:30:54.860 that that was another another scam thing is that is that legal i. 01:30:54.860 --> 01:30:58.860 Think so actually because you're you're not paying them to vote a particular 01:30:58.860 --> 01:31:01.380 way you're just trying to get them to register. 01:31:01.380 --> 01:31:02.860 Okay well. 01:31:02.860 --> 01:31:07.280 And but wasn't Elon actually, he wasn't, he was paying to get the information 01:31:07.280 --> 01:31:10.180 of other people to try to influence. 01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:11.000 Right. 01:31:11.380 --> 01:31:15.380 Like, it wasn't, there was some level of indirection in there. I forget the details. 01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:20.560 But there's also, there's a liberal organization, Cards Against Humanity, 01:31:20.620 --> 01:31:23.680 they have a game, but they're also lobbying in various things. 01:31:23.860 --> 01:31:26.280 They're doing something similar in the other direction, too. 01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:32.180 I'm like, I don't know. I know that he announced, I saw that there was some 01:31:32.180 --> 01:31:38.260 other things It's just, it's just every week there isn't, I mean, 01:31:38.320 --> 01:31:40.480 I go and I turn and I'm like, 01:31:40.700 --> 01:31:44.020 oh, well, you can go and buy the new Trump, you know, whatever, 01:31:44.480 --> 01:31:48.060 like, you know, dick measure or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. 01:31:48.740 --> 01:31:52.740 That would be, yeah, exactly. It's a tape measure. You could measure your dick 01:31:52.740 --> 01:31:58.280 against Trump's to see if you have the virility of the greatest president that we have ever had. 01:31:58.480 --> 01:32:02.440 I mean, I'm sure that he would fucking sell that if I fucking told him that 01:32:02.440 --> 01:32:07.040 we could get like $59.99 for each one of those. And he gets 50%. 01:32:07.040 --> 01:32:12.900 Well, that's lovely. I looked up the Cards Against Humanity thing just to put it out here. 01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:15.840 Here's an article in The Hill. Cards 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:20.300 Against Humanity, to pay swing state non-voters to make a plan to vote. 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:21.280 Okay. 01:32:21.540 --> 01:32:26.800 And so this came out October 10th. Cards Against Humanity is jumping into the 01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:32.420 2024 White House election by offering to pay blue-leaning non-voters in swing 01:32:32.420 --> 01:32:35.760 states to create a plan to vote. 01:32:36.100 --> 01:32:41.400 They rolled out a website on Tuesday to encourage people who did not cast ballots 01:32:41.400 --> 01:32:49.720 in 2020 to vote this November. They are looking to pay some battleground state voters up to $100. 01:32:50.300 --> 01:32:56.260 The payment could be received if the eligible voter writes an apology for not 01:32:56.260 --> 01:33:02.740 casting a ballot in 2020, makes a voting plan, and posts on social media, 01:33:02.900 --> 01:33:04.940 Donald Trump is a human toilet. 01:33:06.160 --> 01:33:07.340 So, anyway. 01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:13.840 I mean, that sounds, okay, that's an interesting plan. And, you know, 01:33:14.140 --> 01:33:18.160 I just, it's the double standard thing, man. 01:33:18.480 --> 01:33:24.620 I mean, it's amazing. I mean, Donald Trump is practically drooling on the floor 01:33:24.620 --> 01:33:26.580 at his campaign rallies at this time. 01:33:26.700 --> 01:33:26.980 Yes. 01:33:27.240 --> 01:33:34.320 And meanwhile, like Harris is intelligently answering questions to all kinds of interviewers. 01:33:34.440 --> 01:33:39.820 And by the way, just getting back to it for a second, these non-serious interviewers, 01:33:39.820 --> 01:33:46.140 I've listened to part of the Howard Stern interview and I've listened to part of the. 01:33:47.450 --> 01:33:53.150 Howard Stern has turned into a very good interviewer as he has aged, okay, by the way. 01:33:53.270 --> 01:33:56.250 Yes, yes. But what I was going to say is both the Call 01:33:56.250 --> 01:33:59.290 Her Daddy interview and the Howard Stern 01:33:59.290 --> 01:34:06.850 interview were miles above other interviews I've heard in terms of actually 01:34:06.850 --> 01:34:14.230 asking interesting questions that elicited interesting answers that weren't 01:34:14.230 --> 01:34:17.170 just talking points that I'd heard a hundred times before. 01:34:17.170 --> 01:34:25.530 That gave you insight into Harris as a person, not just as, you know, 01:34:25.950 --> 01:34:29.210 now some of the stories I'd heard before, because I've paid attention, 01:34:29.450 --> 01:34:35.330 but they were actually asking interesting questions, whereas the traditional 01:34:35.330 --> 01:34:38.390 journalists asked bullshit crap. 01:34:38.610 --> 01:34:43.750 You know, like, what do you think about Donald Trump saying that you only recently turned black? 01:34:44.470 --> 01:34:44.970 Okay. 01:34:45.370 --> 01:34:51.450 You give her a chance to like dismiss that, but like that doesn't tell you anything, 01:34:51.450 --> 01:34:56.990 but you know, instead, you know, some of these other interviews are like actually, 01:34:57.170 --> 01:34:58.950 and I apologize, I'm not prepared. 01:34:58.950 --> 01:35:03.110 I don't have an example on the top of my head. I'm just telling you the general impression. 01:35:03.270 --> 01:35:07.150 And I didn't listen to all of either interview, but I listened to enough of 01:35:07.150 --> 01:35:09.090 both interviews to be like, 01:35:09.170 --> 01:35:13.650 this is what an interview of a presidential candidate should sound like yeah 01:35:13.650 --> 01:35:18.390 yeah you know and i i managed to get myself completely distracted from whatever 01:35:18.390 --> 01:35:21.890 point i was actually making before that but we're. 01:35:21.890 --> 01:35:25.910 Talking about the we're talking about the you know the double standard. 01:35:25.910 --> 01:35:31.470 Oh yeah the double standard because because like harris is answering intelligently 01:35:31.470 --> 01:35:35.830 about all this stuff has depth to her answers clearly knows what she's talking about. 01:35:36.670 --> 01:35:41.050 And Donald Trump makes, what was the latest example? 01:35:42.270 --> 01:35:46.630 It was another person ragging on the New York Times. 01:35:46.750 --> 01:35:51.690 And I know people like to do that. But here's what it was. 01:35:52.150 --> 01:35:58.390 Donald Trump made some comments this week about immigrants and how, 01:35:59.570 --> 01:36:04.210 basically saying the old racist trope about them being inferior because of their 01:36:04.210 --> 01:36:08.630 genes and they are polluting the gene pool and all of this kind of stuff. 01:36:08.850 --> 01:36:14.290 The New York times headline was in remarks about migrants. 01:36:14.510 --> 01:36:18.390 Donald Trump invoked his long held fascination with genes and genetics. 01:36:20.290 --> 01:36:24.070 It's like this gets back to the sane washing that we talked about a couple weeks 01:36:24.070 --> 01:36:25.750 ago. It's like, you know, 01:36:26.550 --> 01:36:36.410 There's this really strong desire to paint this election as a normal election, 01:36:36.410 --> 01:36:45.350 as a choice between two policy ideologies with normal candidates who behave normally. 01:36:45.350 --> 01:36:53.610 And like pretend this is, you know, Gore versus Bush, you know, 01:36:53.790 --> 01:36:57.350 or Obama versus Romney or whatever. 01:36:57.950 --> 01:37:06.190 It's not. No. But there's this this super desire to seemingly pretend that it is. 01:37:06.190 --> 01:37:15.310 And so on the one hand, you try to take whatever the hell Donald Trump is doing 01:37:15.310 --> 01:37:19.730 and try to present it in a more normal light. 01:37:20.230 --> 01:37:28.030 And at the same time, as Harris is already talking intelligently about something, 01:37:28.230 --> 01:37:33.490 so you try to play gotcha and be like, oh, but that's different than what you said six years ago. 01:37:34.510 --> 01:37:37.370 And can you explain there's this one hole 01:37:37.370 --> 01:37:40.070 in what you're talking about and can you go into 01:37:40.070 --> 01:37:42.850 more detail on this and how have you explained how you're going 01:37:42.850 --> 01:37:46.250 to pay for this and all this kind of stuff where you 01:37:46.250 --> 01:37:49.150 know again donald trump has no 01:37:49.150 --> 01:37:52.310 idea about fucking anything you know and 01:37:52.310 --> 01:37:55.530 here we are yeah other than hate other 01:37:55.530 --> 01:37:58.230 than you know he's all in it 01:37:58.230 --> 01:38:01.150 for himself and there are a whole bunch of people he hates 01:38:01.150 --> 01:38:04.030 and he wants revenge for all the people who've taken 01:38:04.030 --> 01:38:07.930 him who have treated him badly over the years and 01:38:07.930 --> 01:38:10.950 i mean how companies i mean 01:38:10.950 --> 01:38:14.310 voters he directly talks 01:38:14.310 --> 01:38:17.930 about how this campaign is all about retribution you 01:38:17.930 --> 01:38:20.950 know is not even hiding it 01:38:20.950 --> 01:38:23.690 it's like right there it's one of the main themes of 01:38:23.690 --> 01:38:26.450 the campaign and and there you go 01:38:26.450 --> 01:38:32.070 anyway what else we got we had a request on the curmudgeon's corner track track 01:38:32.070 --> 01:38:39.770 slack from uh from pete to talk about how shockingly trumpy generation x is 01:38:39.770 --> 01:38:43.750 and i know you exchanged some articles with him on the slack but i didn't have 01:38:43.750 --> 01:38:44.910 a time to look at him so well. 01:38:44.910 --> 01:38:48.970 I i did share the article and the one thing is you know because there's been 01:38:48.970 --> 01:38:53.150 several analysis of this and and one of the things that keep happening that's 01:38:53.150 --> 01:38:58.030 why i shared that article you know about it is that a big part or a problem 01:38:58.030 --> 01:39:00.450 is how you measure generation X, okay? 01:39:00.710 --> 01:39:09.030 And what the range of years that you take for Generation X, and how you measure it. 01:39:09.210 --> 01:39:15.870 And once you dig through the data, it's not borne out that way. I just... 01:39:16.540 --> 01:39:20.080 I mean, it's, I guess it's, it's a little bit more. 01:39:20.340 --> 01:39:25.500 At this point, haven't people pretty much standardized around like what? 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:31.900 1965 to 80. The problem is no, no, no, nobody uses the same range. 01:39:32.220 --> 01:39:36.320 Part of the problem is a lot of the polls, a part of the polls that when you 01:39:36.320 --> 01:39:40.340 listen, when you add people and you go like, well, we're going to go up to 60, 01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:44.960 you know, the problem is that a lot of people do the surveys and they take an 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:48.560 age range that they did and they use that as a proxy for generation x right 01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:49.880 because when that's not because. 01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:55.140 The the age ranges and surveys are usually like 50 to 55 you know or. 01:39:55.140 --> 01:39:59.080 Yeah you know 20 to try to use that as a right and then they try to use that 01:39:59.080 --> 01:40:02.580 as a proxy for a generation when then they're not actually asking. 01:40:02.580 --> 01:40:04.180 Those generational ages yeah. 01:40:04.180 --> 01:40:08.820 No no and a whole bunch of the times almost every time that you dig into it 01:40:08.820 --> 01:40:14.600 then you find that you know generation x is is probably like 50 some odd it's 01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:18.040 never the majority of Generation X that's Trumpier. 01:40:18.180 --> 01:40:24.600 It's a lot, you know, there's a lot more people that I would like in the 40s, 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.080 in the 40s, but it's still majority not, 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:36.880 Trumpy is what a lot of the data analysis shows once you dig under the hood of the numbers. 01:40:37.080 --> 01:40:41.780 But yeah, I will admit that it's, I would like it to be better than that. 01:40:43.700 --> 01:40:50.120 But I think that, and that I think also varies by region, you know? 01:40:50.360 --> 01:40:55.700 Oh yeah. Well, generations are really a made up concept anyway. 01:40:55.700 --> 01:41:00.940 You know, there, it's not really as like straightforward, like people ascribe 01:41:00.940 --> 01:41:06.660 all of these qualities to, you know, this generation is like this and that generation is like that. 01:41:06.820 --> 01:41:14.020 And, and really, no, there are some societal trends that the general concept 01:41:14.020 --> 01:41:18.940 that what is going on during your formative years has an effect on people's 01:41:18.940 --> 01:41:21.000 personalities. Oh yeah, of course. 01:41:21.220 --> 01:41:25.560 That's, that's almost a obvious, you know, like, did you grow up? 01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:29.580 During a time of recession? Or did you grow up in a time of economic boom? 01:41:30.060 --> 01:41:34.940 What was going on in politics at the time that you were first paying attention to politics? 01:41:35.460 --> 01:41:41.660 Of course, that stuff makes a difference. But actually chunking it up into defined 01:41:41.660 --> 01:41:44.620 generations is kind of bogus to begin with. 01:41:44.820 --> 01:41:48.340 And like you said, even when people talk about boomers, right? 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:54.040 I mean, the whole thing with boomers, there was a whole sort of culture war 01:41:54.040 --> 01:41:59.940 thing going on that, you know, if you were talking conservative boomers versus 01:41:59.940 --> 01:42:03.380 liberal boomers, whole different universe. Oh God. 01:42:03.500 --> 01:42:08.280 Yes. They are very, very different. And even like in that analysis that I, 01:42:08.420 --> 01:42:12.440 that I showed, it was like, kind of like it showed hell. 01:42:12.780 --> 01:42:15.360 It showed that in the last election, 01:42:15.580 --> 01:42:20.400 the majority of like the really older Americans voted blue. Yeah. 01:42:20.930 --> 01:42:27.970 It was like the group in between, it was like really like, it was just interesting 01:42:27.970 --> 01:42:32.270 how, how trends have, have moved in that way. 01:42:32.870 --> 01:42:37.450 How things are really more complicated and not, don't fit the simple explanations 01:42:37.450 --> 01:42:38.890 that people try to put on them. 01:42:39.530 --> 01:42:46.050 Yeah. I will also say that, look, there are patterns depending on where you 01:42:46.050 --> 01:42:49.530 were, I mean, like where you were educated. 01:42:50.610 --> 01:42:54.230 Look, I will say that if you look at our cohort of people that I, 01:42:54.410 --> 01:42:58.930 for example, went to school with us, I mean, it's not a hundred percent, 01:42:59.150 --> 01:43:02.330 but vast majority of us are definitely not MAGA. 01:43:03.190 --> 01:43:09.370 Well, yeah, some notable exceptions, but we know the high, you know, 01:43:09.730 --> 01:43:13.290 if you actually look at this stuff, yes, there are correlations with age. 01:43:13.750 --> 01:43:16.930 Yes, there are correlations with generations, which are based on age, 01:43:16.950 --> 01:43:21.890 but the biggest correlations in American politics right now are educational 01:43:21.890 --> 01:43:25.230 level and rural versus urban. 01:43:26.470 --> 01:43:32.410 And, and, and there, there, there's some correlations to sort of demographics 01:43:32.410 --> 01:43:34.730 and income and things like that, 01:43:34.830 --> 01:43:42.070 but rural versus urban and education are the two biggest correlations to political 01:43:42.070 --> 01:43:44.910 orientation right now. And gender. 01:43:46.310 --> 01:43:51.550 The gender gap is getting huge, bigger than it has been in a long, long time. 01:43:51.550 --> 01:43:54.350 Oh, by the way, women are getting more educated, by the way, 01:43:55.430 --> 01:43:58.310 versus men, which that also has an influence, okay? 01:43:58.450 --> 01:43:58.690 Yes. 01:43:59.070 --> 01:44:04.650 I will say that there was a bumper sticker that I saw that somebody showed a 01:44:04.650 --> 01:44:09.850 picture that I think more clearly explained this entire thing. 01:44:10.190 --> 01:44:15.190 And what they said is that the less you understand how things work, 01:44:15.950 --> 01:44:19.390 the more likely you are to believe in conspiracies. 01:44:20.050 --> 01:44:25.730 And that's just reality. You know, when you don't understand how anything the fuck works, 01:44:26.610 --> 01:44:33.090 some idiot comes out and tells you that fires were created by space lasers, 01:44:33.190 --> 01:44:36.890 you know, that the wildfires in Hawaii were started by space lasers, 01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:43.200 you know, and you don't know shit about nothing, you might believe that. Okay? 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:46.820 Well, you have more of a probability to believe that. 01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:51.040 Or people are steering, or Joe Biden is steering the hurricane with a joystick 01:44:51.040 --> 01:44:52.120 on his desk in the White House. 01:44:52.140 --> 01:44:56.420 With a joystick, yes. But, you know, because they don't understand that you have the joystick. 01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:57.540 Right, exactly. 01:44:58.240 --> 01:45:04.160 Right, I mean, that's very clear. And I think that that's the biggest fucking 01:45:04.160 --> 01:45:06.880 divide, I think, that we have. 01:45:08.400 --> 01:45:12.800 You know, it's this whole thing, like I mentioned recently about the conversation I had. 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:20.380 The one caveat I'll put on that is there are plenty of MAGA people who actually 01:45:20.380 --> 01:45:24.520 do understand in quite a lot of detail exactly what is happening, 01:45:24.700 --> 01:45:28.840 but are going to use it for grifting and manipulating. 01:45:28.860 --> 01:45:35.340 Well, that's the other. But that group, wait, that group knows what the fuck is going on. 01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:36.400 Yes. those. 01:45:36.400 --> 01:45:39.600 Guys are just trying to profit off whatever the fuck it. 01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:43.120 Is they're they're trying to profit yes 01:45:43.120 --> 01:45:45.840 correct and that's the only thing they care 01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:49.480 about and i don't want to underestimate too there is sort 01:45:49.480 --> 01:45:52.600 of this fundamental cultural divide going 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:57.760 on as well that is being taken advantage of all these forces of this huge group 01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:04.940 of people who feel like they're losing control and that their vision of America 01:46:04.940 --> 01:46:10.960 is losing out and all of this grifting and influence control, 01:46:11.220 --> 01:46:15.940 influence control, all, all, all of this MAGA stuff that's building on top of 01:46:15.940 --> 01:46:21.740 this is taking advantage of those feelings in order to gain power. 01:46:22.460 --> 01:46:23.120 And money. 01:46:23.320 --> 01:46:26.880 No, and I think that, yes, and I think that's the thing. 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:32.860 Is this, I found the data that we're talking about in splits in generational voting. 01:46:33.080 --> 01:46:37.380 And no matter how you cut it in like, and this is a Washington Post article 01:46:37.380 --> 01:46:41.240 that I shared that was actually digging into the data. 01:46:41.460 --> 01:46:45.660 Give the title and the date so people can find it if they want. 01:46:45.700 --> 01:46:49.480 The title, this was last year. Gen X is not the Trumpiest generation, period. 01:46:49.740 --> 01:46:54.300 Washington Post. This is by Philip Bump. This was one year ago because he decided 01:46:54.300 --> 01:46:57.800 to dig into the data because, you know, people were had been saying this. 01:46:57.940 --> 01:47:06.440 OK, and, you know, he did go and did the deeper analysis and trying to to to 01:47:06.440 --> 01:47:08.340 to understand what was going on. 01:47:08.480 --> 01:47:12.960 It actually showed like in 2016 that silent generation voters, 01:47:13.260 --> 01:47:19.380 for example, they were they have been clearly on the on the Trump side of the 01:47:19.380 --> 01:47:21.140 ledger, no matter how you slice the data. 01:47:21.140 --> 01:47:28.040 I think it was like, you know, it was, there were definitely significantly there. Boomers less so, okay? 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:33.280 It was more silent generation more than anything else. But no matter how you 01:47:33.280 --> 01:47:38.020 slice the data, 2016, 2020, whatever, Gen X wasn't, okay? 01:47:38.240 --> 01:47:42.800 Now, the one, I will say one thing that you noticed about the vote between 2016 01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:50.720 and 2020, that no matter how you slice the data, was that there was a lot of other in Gen X in 2016. 01:47:51.140 --> 01:47:59.540 And a lot of what happened there is that a lot of those others actually moved to vote Trump, 01:48:00.100 --> 01:48:12.580 the ones that were others, but still by a majority, still not Trumpy. 01:48:12.580 --> 01:48:17.660 So it showed that definitely the Trumpiest generation, for sure. 01:48:18.400 --> 01:48:25.560 Simon, those guys definitely are the ones that are that really are the Trumpiest 01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:30.300 of all in the analysis of the data. So there you go. 01:48:30.700 --> 01:48:34.960 You know, so that's that's the bottom line. It's, you know, you look at it, 01:48:35.100 --> 01:48:35.960 you dig into the numbers. 01:48:36.140 --> 01:48:40.200 So in other words, the Trumpiest people in American government right now, 01:48:40.420 --> 01:48:42.340 Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi. 01:48:43.180 --> 01:48:46.560 Basically yes okay gotcha gotcha 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.440 but i you know but once we go back to 01:48:49.440 --> 01:48:52.100 this thing you know it oh look it's what 01:48:52.100 --> 01:48:56.160 we were talking again look like i mentioned man i 01:48:56.160 --> 01:49:01.980 i think you know you the education either like you said winds up working in 01:49:01.980 --> 01:49:07.180 two ways either you understand what the fuck is going on and you're just a prick 01:49:07.180 --> 01:49:12.440 and you just want to fucking profit off of it and you don't give a fuck. 01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:14.640 Or, you know, 01:49:15.750 --> 01:49:16.530 You're like us. 01:49:18.870 --> 01:49:25.330 I was just, you know, the other day calculating my taxes again, and I have to pay again. 01:49:26.130 --> 01:49:31.250 And, you know, I thought about it for a second and I realized it's my fucking what I got to do. 01:49:31.730 --> 01:49:36.790 Yeah. As much as people hate on Bill Gates the other day, he was saying, hey, you know what? 01:49:37.550 --> 01:49:41.310 I should be taxed more. As a matter of fact, I think my estate should be taxed 01:49:41.310 --> 01:49:45.110 like almost double what it is or triple something like that. 01:49:45.110 --> 01:49:48.470 He was advocating for an estate tax that would basically take two thirds of 01:49:48.470 --> 01:49:50.850 what he has and that that would be OK. 01:49:51.690 --> 01:49:55.690 And so because he understands how important that is for society. 01:49:57.290 --> 01:50:01.350 Recently, there was an interesting case. I'm talking about estate tax. 01:50:02.050 --> 01:50:02.270 OK. 01:50:02.530 --> 01:50:09.650 There was a guy in Texas, OK, who some people have been sleuthing to find out who the hell he was. 01:50:09.650 --> 01:50:13.230 And they found out he was some obscure billionaire that 01:50:13.230 --> 01:50:19.730 nobody knew he was a billionaire after he died that did not do anything on purpose 01:50:19.730 --> 01:50:27.850 to avoid the estate tax and wound up paying the biggest estate tax bill by almost 01:50:27.850 --> 01:50:31.870 like seven to 10 times more than anybody had ever paid. 01:50:31.870 --> 01:50:35.730 It was a seven billion dollar estate tax 01:50:35.730 --> 01:50:38.830 payment when he died once people 01:50:38.830 --> 01:50:41.630 started digging into around the guy what they found out that the guy 01:50:41.630 --> 01:50:44.750 was just a pretty decent guy and he'd 01:50:44.750 --> 01:50:48.490 left some money to his kids and what he said is well i could create a charity 01:50:48.490 --> 01:50:52.390 or something or whatever maybe my money just just go to the government so they 01:50:52.390 --> 01:51:00.130 can do what we need you know for people and his estate when he died wound up 01:51:00.130 --> 01:51:03.050 being the largest estate tax bill ever. 01:51:03.710 --> 01:51:07.230 I was like, and this guy was an investment manager, find out. 01:51:07.350 --> 01:51:10.910 So this is not a guy that was unsavvy about money or whatever. 01:51:11.090 --> 01:51:15.510 This guy apparently had been managing investments for other people. 01:51:15.510 --> 01:51:17.110 He could have avoided the taxes if he wanted to. 01:51:17.690 --> 01:51:20.390 No doubt about it. He just decided not to. 01:51:21.370 --> 01:51:24.110 Paid the ticket okay shall we wrap this 01:51:24.110 --> 01:51:31.750 up yep okay thanks everybody for joining us for another curmudgeons corner you 01:51:31.750 --> 01:51:36.350 can go to curmudgeons corner.com or curmudgeons hyphen corner.com i should say 01:51:36.350 --> 01:51:37.830 because some asshole took curmudgeons 01:51:37.830 --> 01:51:42.510 corner.com so i always have the hyphen oh fuck you yeah not you i. 01:51:42.510 --> 01:51:46.490 Mean the guy who took it not not you i have to keep screaming this recently 01:51:46.490 --> 01:51:48.670 i keep saying fuck you without saying no not you. 01:51:48.670 --> 01:51:51.370 Them well and just 01:51:51.370 --> 01:51:54.670 like on youtube there's like there's like three curmudgeons corners 01:51:54.670 --> 01:51:59.570 or something like that at this point you know like and we're the last one to 01:51:59.570 --> 01:52:06.830 the party of putting it on youtube youtube but and and speaking of which thank 01:52:06.830 --> 01:52:11.610 you sean for watching live he watched for one segment and then he dropped off but you know okay all. 01:52:11.610 --> 01:52:12.710 Right well thank you thank you. 01:52:12.710 --> 01:52:15.650 Thank you sean that's that's 01:52:15.650 --> 01:52:19.350 plenty that's plenty yeah but yeah 01:52:19.350 --> 01:52:22.170 curmudgeon-corner.com you can find all the ways to contact 01:52:22.170 --> 01:52:26.750 us you can find our archives transcripts blah blah blah importantly you can 01:52:26.750 --> 01:52:31.830 find our patreon so you can give us money so if bill gates is listening you 01:52:31.830 --> 01:52:35.170 do not have to give that money to the government you can give it to us instead 01:52:35.170 --> 01:52:39.910 we are fine with that yes we're okay then we will pay our taxes issues. 01:52:40.470 --> 01:52:49.010 If, if, if you do that, so anyway, anyway, on our Patriot at various levels, 01:52:49.230 --> 01:52:51.590 you can, we'll mention you on the show. We will ring a bell. 01:52:51.690 --> 01:52:52.610 We will send you a postcard. 01:52:52.750 --> 01:52:57.250 We will send you a mug, all that kind of fun stuff at $2 a month or more. 01:52:57.250 --> 01:53:01.470 Or if you just ask us, we will invite you to our curmudgeons corner slack where 01:53:01.470 --> 01:53:06.050 Yvonne and I, and a bunch of listeners are chatting and sharing links throughout the week. 01:53:06.870 --> 01:53:10.010 And yeah, Yvonne, do you have any highlights from the curmudgeons course slack 01:53:10.010 --> 01:53:10.990 you'd like to share today. 01:53:10.990 --> 01:53:14.170 Ah let's see i'm i'm 01:53:14.170 --> 01:53:19.230 trying to figure out none of the cobalt programming stuff i think you know we 01:53:19.230 --> 01:53:25.650 we decided to go overly geeky on on on programming and and i'm like you know 01:53:25.650 --> 01:53:31.070 i realize that you know i'm even on the low low end of the totem pole on my programming skills, 01:53:31.910 --> 01:53:38.070 oh here we go this so football game this weekend at stanford university and 01:53:38.070 --> 01:53:42.750 the Stanford Band's halftime show had some girl dressed up in a cardboard Cybertruck 01:53:42.750 --> 01:53:45.490 that keeps losing control and running into things. 01:53:49.250 --> 01:53:54.970 You know, this morning when I was heading to work, I saw, I've seen many Cybertrucks. 01:53:55.270 --> 01:53:56.470 I've seen many. 01:53:56.750 --> 01:54:01.590 There are a variety of them around there. I mean, I actually don't know if it's 01:54:01.590 --> 01:54:03.790 many or if it's the same one I'm seeing over and over again, 01:54:03.850 --> 01:54:05.430 but I've seen a bunch, okay? 01:54:05.770 --> 01:54:05.890 Yeah. 01:54:05.890 --> 01:54:12.230 But for the first time this morning, I saw a Cybertruck with the back open, 01:54:12.250 --> 01:54:14.750 you know, where the cargo is. 01:54:14.810 --> 01:54:15.890 Were they parked or were driving? 01:54:16.650 --> 01:54:21.070 Driving. Driving. With the back open. Like the cargo area was open instead of 01:54:21.070 --> 01:54:22.730 having that little bit on it. 01:54:23.190 --> 01:54:25.310 Yeah, well, that's, okay, but that's not. 01:54:25.690 --> 01:54:29.510 I mean, it is supposedly a pickup truck, right? You should, like, 01:54:29.910 --> 01:54:32.670 you open the back and you can put stuff there. Now, I didn't see something. 01:54:32.670 --> 01:54:33.190 Well, was there. 01:54:33.950 --> 01:54:37.170 I mean there might have been but it wasn't big enough that it was sticking out 01:54:37.170 --> 01:54:41.170 or anything but the back was open and i was like i haven't seen that before. 01:54:41.170 --> 01:54:47.010 I haven't seen i i must admit that i haven't seen that before either it's probably 01:54:47.010 --> 01:54:49.290 i'm gonna guess it's unintentional, 01:54:52.270 --> 01:54:57.970 right oh and uh well i did i did find this and posted lately talking about cyber 01:54:57.970 --> 01:55:01.530 trucks that Tesla has finally revealed its CyberCab. 01:55:01.650 --> 01:55:04.790 And it looks like a smaller, sleeker Cybertruck. 01:55:05.390 --> 01:55:12.790 And he had a whole bunch of them, prototypes. However, deliveries are to be in three years. 01:55:13.750 --> 01:55:19.830 I mean, and given how he has missed deadlines, Bob already mentioned probably 2030. 01:55:20.190 --> 01:55:24.830 And I think he may be right. But this thing is about the most impractical, like, 01:55:25.530 --> 01:55:32.410 robo taxi i've ever seen because it could only fit two people right i i i mean 01:55:32.410 --> 01:55:37.770 i guess there are a lot of people that are single passenger rides but is it isn't a proper. 01:55:37.770 --> 01:55:44.010 One that where like it really is truly complete like there is no steering wheel you're only a passenger. 01:55:44.010 --> 01:55:51.430 No i saw that there is a i think i i i don't know i i think i wasn't oh god i. 01:55:51.430 --> 01:55:56.830 Gotta look because i don't i don't really truly believe these are truly doing 01:55:56.830 --> 01:56:02.130 what you like what you would want on a fully autonomous vehicle in unless there 01:56:02.130 --> 01:56:07.870 is no manual override the person inside the car can only specify the destination. 01:56:07.870 --> 01:56:12.010 Well here's the thing i will say that the the ones that waymo has been driving 01:56:12.010 --> 01:56:16.210 around do have a wheel but there is no manual override right i mean you you 01:56:16.210 --> 01:56:19.850 can't i mean even though the wheel is present there you it's you can't use it. 01:56:19.850 --> 01:56:22.450 So wait if you hop into the front you can't take over. 01:56:22.450 --> 01:56:25.110 That's correct yeah it has to 01:56:25.110 --> 01:56:28.090 be if somebody needs to do it it's remotely so um 01:56:28.090 --> 01:56:30.770 i i know that's that that's been 01:56:30.770 --> 01:56:33.750 an issue because i've seen these like get stuck 01:56:33.750 --> 01:56:36.570 somewhere and like the people inside getting yelled at by 01:56:36.570 --> 01:56:39.530 somebody outside and they're like you can't do anything i 01:56:39.530 --> 01:56:42.710 can't do anything i'm like you know so yeah so so 01:56:42.710 --> 01:56:45.410 i know that that's been the case even if they've they've left 01:56:45.410 --> 01:56:48.190 that but i know that there was a video now that you 01:56:48.190 --> 01:56:51.210 you know you're saying this there was a video of of 01:56:51.210 --> 01:56:54.070 him driving around so now let me pull up and 01:56:54.070 --> 01:56:57.810 there's a whole bunch of robots and more 01:56:57.810 --> 01:57:01.450 robots and i don't know stupid robots 01:57:01.450 --> 01:57:04.850 dancing and i don't know who gives 01:57:04.850 --> 01:57:07.890 a shit about the fucking robots dancing so let 01:57:07.890 --> 01:57:10.630 me see here's a video and i'm looking and there was a video 01:57:10.630 --> 01:57:13.650 with elon writing inside one and they 01:57:13.650 --> 01:57:17.770 did it inside hollywood studio like and 01:57:17.770 --> 01:57:20.550 so it's in it's in a controlled area they didn't 01:57:20.550 --> 01:57:23.590 do this like demo like out on the road but i 01:57:23.590 --> 01:57:28.110 see elon sitting behind a wheel but not behind a wheel because he's in the passenger 01:57:28.110 --> 01:57:32.870 seat but i i saw him there but i can't you could i couldn't see inside so i 01:57:32.870 --> 01:57:37.830 can't tell if okay but he was sitting there looking like an idiot well i guess 01:57:37.830 --> 01:57:40.590 looking like himself and anyway well we didn't. 01:57:40.590 --> 01:57:44.210 Mention like his appearance at the trump rally where he was jumping around. 01:57:44.210 --> 01:57:52.090 Yeah looking like a complete fool i mean i i i mean i don't understand how he 01:57:52.090 --> 01:57:54.150 just didn't lose pennsylvania with that stroke. 01:57:54.150 --> 01:58:02.330 Yes well anyway let's wrap it up i will say i'm i'm trying to post blog posts 01:58:02.330 --> 01:58:06.390 on electiongraphs.com as well as the updates so check it out periodically i'll 01:58:06.390 --> 01:58:07.630 probably do one over the weekend, 01:58:08.630 --> 01:58:10.210 just to get another one out there. 01:58:11.190 --> 01:58:13.630 And yeah, I don't know. 01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:20.200 We'll see. We'll see. We have an election coming really, really freaking fast at this point. 01:58:20.380 --> 01:58:24.720 So we'll see you all next week. I guess this is it. 01:58:25.240 --> 01:58:27.100 Okay. Oh, well, one more thing. 01:58:27.380 --> 01:58:28.580 Just a quick thing. One more thing. 01:58:28.680 --> 01:58:32.860 One more thing. I don't know if I mentioned last week that the provider of our 01:58:32.860 --> 01:58:37.060 car chargers for our, and I don't remember if this happened before the last 01:58:37.060 --> 01:58:41.060 show, that the provider of our car chargers went and announced that they were 01:58:41.060 --> 01:58:42.720 shutting down their North America operations. 01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:45.700 And then at that moment said, oh, we're shutting off all the software. 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:47.900 The car charges for your condo. 01:58:48.180 --> 01:58:52.560 For a condo. And they just went, oh, and software won't work. 01:58:52.680 --> 01:58:58.200 And I think that they must have gotten like, because the problem is that this isn't a small company. 01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:02.040 This is their U.S. subsidiary that we're shutting down. But this is a large 01:59:02.040 --> 01:59:04.660 global company. It's still planning to sell these in other countries. 01:59:05.300 --> 01:59:09.740 I mean, and it's used by a lot of companies. I know that Florida Power and Light, 01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.640 our energy provider, was putting these in people's houses for God. 01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:15.840 Sakes so and they were saying they were shutting down the software well 01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:18.800 i'm guessing that enough people yelled at the 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:21.940 company loud enough that today there 01:59:21.940 --> 01:59:26.080 was this day that was shutting down everything said well we're not 01:59:26.080 --> 01:59:29.240 really gonna shut down the software and make all your chargers 01:59:29.240 --> 01:59:32.260 not work which is like jesus you 01:59:32.260 --> 01:59:35.100 think i mean so so at least 01:59:35.100 --> 01:59:39.120 i i got that message now there won't be any customer service but 01:59:39.120 --> 01:59:42.340 we're not shutting down the software you you say we're saying hey we're shutting 01:59:42.340 --> 01:59:46.400 down all the software we're pulling it we're pulling the apps from the app store 01:59:46.400 --> 01:59:50.160 where i'm like but wait a minute you're still running this in europe but why 01:59:50.160 --> 01:59:51.740 the fuck are you shutting down 01:59:51.740 --> 01:59:55.540 the fucking service and just letting everybody out a little lurch you'd. 01:59:55.540 --> 01:59:58.660 Think in that scenario at the very least you'd like sell it off to somebody 01:59:58.660 --> 01:59:59.800 else to manage or something. 01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:04.180 Well that's i guess what finally somebody screamed in their ear and that's what 02:00:04.180 --> 02:00:08.660 they said today that they were going to find how to do that because the first 02:00:08.660 --> 02:00:11.720 way they did it just made no sense whatsoever i mean I mean, 02:00:11.780 --> 02:00:14.380 it was just, and you know, the thing is, it's like, 02:00:14.580 --> 02:00:19.140 I mean, it's NL, which is a very large Italian, like, energy company. 02:00:19.620 --> 02:00:22.620 So, I mean, they were really giving themselves a black eye. 02:00:23.780 --> 02:00:27.940 They got some other big companies that bought this shit from them in North America, 02:00:27.940 --> 02:00:29.500 and they were, like, screwing them. 02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:32.620 And I'm guessing that a couple of those picked up the phone and said, 02:00:32.820 --> 02:00:35.820 what the fuck are you doing? 02:00:36.240 --> 02:00:38.960 Oh, yeah, I guess that wasn't such a great idea. 02:00:40.980 --> 02:00:44.580 Sometimes executives make decisions. I'm just, well. 02:00:44.760 --> 02:00:46.620 Okay, okay. Let's wrap this sucker up. 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:47.320 All right. 02:00:47.820 --> 02:00:55.100 Hey, everybody, as usual, stay safe. Have a good week. We'll talk to you next time. Goodbye. 02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:56.400 Bye. 02:01:28.740 --> 02:01:35.440 Hey, before I shut this off, have you heard the Cybertruck song that's on TikTok and stuff? 02:01:36.460 --> 02:01:41.980 Cybertruck? Okay. I will include it for our listeners at the very end of the 02:01:41.980 --> 02:01:43.440 show. I do not have it ready. 02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:50.900 You can imagine what the word Cybertruck rhymes with that would be part of the lyrics of that song. 02:01:53.200 --> 02:01:58.140 Anyway, I will find the audio and I will include it right here at the end. 02:01:58.140 --> 02:02:03.060 And so listen to that bye everyone bye. 02:02:03.060 --> 02:02:10.080 One two three four cyber truck driving out some stuff and then it's stuck always 02:02:10.080 --> 02:02:16.340 driven by a stupid fuck it is the cyber truck it is the cyber truck.