WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:00.610 Hello. 00:00:01.230 --> 00:00:01.750 Hello. 00:00:02.410 --> 00:00:09.070 Let me turn your volume up. There we go. Are you feeling better this week? 00:00:13.490 --> 00:00:16.370 Okay, hold on. There we go. 00:00:17.670 --> 00:00:20.710 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:00:21.730 --> 00:00:24.630 Okay, nice. I'll have to fix that on the others later. 00:00:25.570 --> 00:00:32.030 Okay. okay anything that we need to go over before we start or shall i just hit the button and go. 00:00:32.890 --> 00:00:34.310 Buttoning it buttoning it. 00:00:34.310 --> 00:00:40.010 Here we go I don't 00:00:40.010 --> 00:01:02.150 know. 00:01:02.470 --> 00:01:08.590 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, September 14th, 2024. 00:01:09.110 --> 00:01:14.690 It is 1733 UTC as we're starting to record. I'm Sam Mentor, Yvonne Bowes here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:01:15.290 --> 00:01:15.730 Hello! 00:01:16.730 --> 00:01:21.150 So I think as usual, we're going to do our but first, where we talk about non-newsy 00:01:21.150 --> 00:01:24.770 stuff for a little bit, And then two segments of newsy stuff, 00:01:24.970 --> 00:01:28.810 one picked by Yvonne, one picked by me. That's the plan. 00:01:29.330 --> 00:01:30.410 That's the plan. 00:01:31.210 --> 00:01:36.670 I was just telling Yvonne, he seems much more with it today than either of the 00:01:36.670 --> 00:01:38.550 last two weeks that we did this show. 00:01:38.650 --> 00:01:41.010 The first one, he was sick. 00:01:41.350 --> 00:01:47.350 The second one, he had just done a crazy night in Vegas and not slept. 00:01:47.550 --> 00:01:50.350 And so now you look refreshed. 00:01:50.910 --> 00:01:58.390 I, I, I, uh, I look refreshed for those of you who are seeing this, not, not, not many. 00:01:58.710 --> 00:02:02.630 Yeah. I, uh, to Sam that's looking at me, I look refreshed. I, 00:02:02.630 --> 00:02:05.750 I, I did, uh, have a nice night of sleep. 00:02:06.170 --> 00:02:13.370 Uh, I also exercised this morning and so, yeah, you know, this is, 00:02:13.370 --> 00:02:15.210 oh, pretty, pretty good. 00:02:16.170 --> 00:02:21.750 Meanwhile, I'm kind of tired because last night, like I fell asleep on the couch. 00:02:21.870 --> 00:02:24.630 I was the first one in the family to fall asleep. I fell asleep on the couch. 00:02:24.770 --> 00:02:26.610 How often do you fall asleep on the couch? 00:02:27.590 --> 00:02:28.950 Maybe a third of the time. 00:02:29.210 --> 00:02:31.270 Okay. So a lot. Okay. I never do. 00:02:31.350 --> 00:02:34.090 I always, maybe not quite. 00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:37.590 But like, but, but okay. It's a lot. It's, it's, it's definitely not, 00:02:37.630 --> 00:02:40.590 uh, it's not an unusual occurrence. Okay. 00:02:40.630 --> 00:02:45.870 Yeah. Okay. But, but like, you know, one of the reasons why is like my son, 00:02:45.930 --> 00:02:53.370 Alex, like, likes to stay downstairs late and doesn't like everybody else to leave. 00:02:53.550 --> 00:02:57.170 I mean, he'll, he'll, if everyone else leaves, it'll, 00:02:57.590 --> 00:03:02.850 He will deal, but like he prefers if somebody stays downstairs with him while 00:03:02.850 --> 00:03:09.010 he is on his like all night bender of watching YouTube, whatever that he's doing, you know? 00:03:09.110 --> 00:03:12.290 And so like more often than not, 00:03:12.350 --> 00:03:18.610 one or the other of us will give in and like, you know, stay on the couch and 00:03:18.610 --> 00:03:24.350 typically we will fall asleep first because we're old, you know? Yep. 00:03:24.410 --> 00:03:25.490 And that's what happens. 00:03:25.490 --> 00:03:28.550 And he is yes he is 00:03:28.550 --> 00:03:31.710 completely nocturnal right now his his sleep schedules 00:03:31.710 --> 00:03:34.810 are screwed up so in any case i fell 00:03:34.810 --> 00:03:38.470 asleep on the couch i woke up again middle of the night you know had to go to 00:03:38.470 --> 00:03:46.190 bathroom blah blah blah again old but you know and he he was gone like the tv 00:03:46.190 --> 00:03:50.870 was still on but he was gone no one was there i i remember like when i first 00:03:50.870 --> 00:03:54.670 fell asleep like my my my wife was Actually, 00:03:54.890 --> 00:03:58.530 I think the same thing you were, not the same one, but she was at a birthday party. 00:03:59.510 --> 00:04:05.070 And so I had no idea. I was like, did she come back? What's going on? Blah, blah, blah. 00:04:05.250 --> 00:04:08.870 And so I decided, okay, I'm going to go up to bed. 00:04:09.770 --> 00:04:12.450 I get up to bed. My wife is in bed. 00:04:13.070 --> 00:04:13.470 Okay. 00:04:13.790 --> 00:04:20.870 My son is in bed at a right angle to my wife. So like, not, not like, you know. 00:04:20.950 --> 00:04:22.290 So you can't get into bed. 00:04:22.450 --> 00:04:25.270 Well, and then the dog is in the remaining space. 00:04:25.670 --> 00:04:26.670 Oh, for God's sake. 00:04:26.770 --> 00:04:32.770 Okay. So, so, and, and, and, you know, keep in mind the dog is a huge dog too. So it's take. 00:04:32.830 --> 00:04:35.790 And you don't do what I, what I do because I have. 00:04:35.790 --> 00:04:36.730 Just shove them out of the way. 00:04:37.170 --> 00:04:42.710 Oh, oh, oh. So if Manu, listen, I, I, uh, before whatever, blah, 00:04:42.850 --> 00:04:47.390 blah, blah, let him be, you know, love, love, you know, that I'll be nice to the little boy. 00:04:47.510 --> 00:04:52.470 Now I'm like, if he is in my side of the damn bed, get the fuck up, 00:04:52.490 --> 00:04:54.130 go to your bed, get out of here. 00:04:54.330 --> 00:04:57.890 So I don't care what I tried to do. 00:04:58.070 --> 00:05:07.210 I tried first to find a way to contort myself into the small amounts of empty space left on the bed. 00:05:08.190 --> 00:05:08.730 Okay. 00:05:09.090 --> 00:05:11.030 So that doesn't work. 00:05:11.590 --> 00:05:17.570 So already try this is, you know, I tried that once or twice. I said, screw this. 00:05:17.990 --> 00:05:23.270 I was like twisted around so that like I had my feet under the kid's back. 00:05:23.470 --> 00:05:29.570 I had my face up against the dog's face in between. I was bent into a weird angle. 00:05:29.670 --> 00:05:35.890 And so I tried like for a while I tried to sleep and I, I did not get back to 00:05:35.890 --> 00:05:40.310 sleep that way. Like I, I, I kept trying slightly different positions, 00:05:40.390 --> 00:05:44.410 you know, I, I, it just was not working. 00:05:44.470 --> 00:05:47.050 I probably like tossed and turned trying to do that. 00:05:47.130 --> 00:05:51.570 Well, I say tossed and turned, but I was very constrained in my tossing and 00:05:51.570 --> 00:05:53.930 turning based on where everyone else was. 00:05:54.490 --> 00:05:59.790 And so I eventually was like, okay, I give up. I'm going back downstairs. 00:06:00.410 --> 00:06:05.050 But like, you know, I've mentioned before we have, I've mentioned before the 00:06:05.050 --> 00:06:09.670 dilapidated of our couches that they, my intention is to replace them this year. 00:06:09.750 --> 00:06:14.710 I have not yet replaced them. They are not particularly comfortable for sleeping. Okay. 00:06:15.430 --> 00:06:19.970 And, and so like, I, I tried again to sleep. 00:06:20.050 --> 00:06:24.450 I slept a little, I did fall asleep for a little while again, but not very much. 00:06:24.550 --> 00:06:28.010 I woke up, I tried to get back to sleep and it was like, and so, 00:06:28.030 --> 00:06:29.270 and then eventually I'm like, 00:06:29.410 --> 00:06:34.910 okay, I'll try sleeping on the floor I put like a pillow down on the floor I 00:06:34.910 --> 00:06:40.130 tried to sleep on the floor I did not get back to sleep and then it was time to do this so I was like, 00:06:40.650 --> 00:06:45.010 you know so yeah so you're exhausted but not you know I had a. 00:06:46.810 --> 00:06:49.390 Not completely. Like I probably still got. 00:06:49.390 --> 00:06:51.370 But you're not rested. But you're not rested. 00:06:51.630 --> 00:06:54.690 I'm not rested as much as I would like to be. 00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:59.850 Let's say, let's put it that way. And it's not like, because what sleep I did 00:06:59.850 --> 00:07:01.690 have was uncomfortable sleep. 00:07:01.850 --> 00:07:07.270 And I would have liked to get more sleep, but I, I tried multiple times to fall 00:07:07.270 --> 00:07:12.730 back asleep and I couldn't. And then boom, it was daytime. So, you know, there. 00:07:13.270 --> 00:07:20.410 No, no, I, I get that. You know, but I, listen, I, I have been, 00:07:20.410 --> 00:07:23.990 look, I don't, you know, I know you say, well, your son's gotten big, 00:07:24.050 --> 00:07:26.570 so my son's gotten a lot bigger. 00:07:26.670 --> 00:07:28.770 He's not weighing more than one. 00:07:28.890 --> 00:07:32.110 He's about weighing the same as one. He's 140 pounds right now. 00:07:32.130 --> 00:07:34.650 So he's not small. I don't give a fuck. Okay. 00:07:35.490 --> 00:07:40.350 You know, I'm sorry. Get the fuck off my bed. Okay. Go to your damn bed. 00:07:40.510 --> 00:07:47.290 Okay. I want my bed. I have to say that I have to get Manu a new mattress as well. 00:07:47.810 --> 00:07:52.690 That mattress is now like, I guess, is getting like eight years old, nine, whatever. 00:07:53.570 --> 00:07:57.910 It's not particularly comfortable right now, at least to me. 00:07:58.230 --> 00:08:01.650 My wife has said the same. Manu hasn't complained about it. 00:08:02.010 --> 00:08:07.210 But because I tried like once, okay, he stayed in bed in my bed. I'll go sleep in his bed. 00:08:07.690 --> 00:08:11.930 And I was like, oh, fuck, this mattress is shit. 00:08:12.690 --> 00:08:15.770 i'm like i can't no i can't i can't sleep 00:08:15.770 --> 00:08:19.410 in this now i will say that that 00:08:19.410 --> 00:08:23.410 hasn't happened in a while because he kind of got the he got the picture so 00:08:23.410 --> 00:08:28.350 he doesn't do that anymore okay he doesn't want me you know basically just waking 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:31.330 his ass up in the middle of the night to go to go to his bed so so he's not 00:08:31.330 --> 00:08:35.030 doing that because that happened a lot sometimes when i was recording the podcast 00:08:35.030 --> 00:08:38.690 i was recording it late on friday sometimes i get in there and i'm like what the. 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.420 You know so but i 00:08:43.420 --> 00:08:47.580 will say that you know you mentioned about the couches and you know we replaced 00:08:47.580 --> 00:08:51.620 our our like i mentioned our couch this year and that old couch that we had 00:08:51.620 --> 00:08:55.300 same problem as with yours had gotten uncomfortable you know it was it had gotten 00:08:55.300 --> 00:08:58.440 to the point where it was just not comfortable to lie on you don't have to go 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.300 to bed but the new couches that we have, 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:05.560 are yes extremely comfortable okay so 00:09:05.560 --> 00:09:08.360 if if it was that bad and and 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:12.260 one of them because we didn't have this before does turn into a bed right okay 00:09:12.260 --> 00:09:18.800 so if it was that bad it does even turn into a bed and it's a nice comfortable 00:09:18.800 --> 00:09:23.800 bed so now i have that option but i haven't had to use it because you know what 00:09:23.800 --> 00:09:27.120 i laid down the law on this and basically just said get the fuck off my bed, 00:09:28.160 --> 00:09:34.540 and you know the thing is that in his bedroom he he does play in the living 00:09:34.540 --> 00:09:38.240 room got big tv but But the TV that I put in his bedroom is almost the same 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.020 size as the one in the living room. Yeah. That, that, that, that far. 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.980 So he will go do that in his bedroom. So we'll be in bed and you know, 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.780 a whole bunch of times he'll fall asleep with a remote in his hand completely. Just yeah. 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:54.220 It'll, it'll be watching shit on YouTube or whatever and movies until he falls asleep. 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.120 I find him with a remote in hand and I'm like, okay, here we go. 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:00.160 Take the remote out of his hands. Turn off the TV. 00:10:00.260 --> 00:10:03.840 Let him go to sleep. Okay, got it. So we'll do, we'll do that. So, but yeah. 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:12.900 Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, fun stuff. And yeah, and I have on occasion, 00:10:12.920 --> 00:10:16.460 like, pushed and made space. 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:22.360 I didn't feel like it last night. But yeah, again, like, but the contorting doesn't work. 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.320 Is he one of these guys? Is he one of these people that, like, 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.380 rotates, flips, and kicks at night? 00:10:29.180 --> 00:10:33.820 Or is he, you know, if you move him, he'll stay still. 00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:37.760 Uh, he'll move. He'll move. Okay. 00:10:37.800 --> 00:10:43.880 So I, you know, I had this like where my sister, many years ago, 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:50.840 I went on a trip to Orlando with my, with my sister and they had rented a house. 00:10:50.900 --> 00:10:52.180 We're all sharing this house. 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.280 So when you were an adult, not when you were kids. 00:10:54.420 --> 00:10:57.980 When I was an adult with my nephews, okay. That were younger, 00:10:58.040 --> 00:10:59.720 which my nephews are now adults. Okay. 00:10:59.860 --> 00:11:05.760 Okay. And so I have to wind up sharing a bed with my two of my nieces. Okay. All right. 00:11:07.020 --> 00:11:10.740 It's a sofa bed. It's the only place to sleep. And I'm like, 00:11:10.860 --> 00:11:17.960 okay, listen, these two, there was no way to sleep with them in a bed. 00:11:18.380 --> 00:11:22.180 Listen, I would shove them all the way to the other side of the bed. 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:29.440 In minutes, they would be perpendicular to me, kicking me, shoving me, 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:32.540 pushing me off the bed, asleep, just completely asleep. 00:11:32.760 --> 00:11:34.660 Right. They're doing all of this in their sleep. 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.920 And it's like, I'm like, fuck me. I mean, I'm literally dragging them all the 00:11:39.920 --> 00:11:43.300 way to the other side of the damn bed. 00:11:43.640 --> 00:11:47.340 And then minutes later, they're just kicking my ass. 00:11:47.700 --> 00:11:48.280 Oh, yeah. 00:11:48.340 --> 00:11:51.620 While asleep. And they don't even notice it. Wake up in the morning. 00:11:51.660 --> 00:11:52.520 It's like, what happened? what 00:11:52.520 --> 00:11:59.880 do you mean what happened yeah let me sleep oh yes yes fuck hey well the. 00:11:59.880 --> 00:12:02.300 Joy of having the young ones around. 00:12:02.300 --> 00:12:07.160 Oh i love it but you know come on it's a little bit oh i listen don't get me 00:12:07.160 --> 00:12:11.680 wrong i wouldn't change it for a world but it is not conducive to good sleep yeah. 00:12:11.680 --> 00:12:19.140 No no and yeah so anyway i hijacked like that part of the but first did you 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:20.780 have another but firsty thing. 00:12:20.780 --> 00:12:26.900 That you wanted to talk about first he think first he think what was i doing 00:12:26.900 --> 00:12:30.320 this week i don't know i went to vegas yeah. 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:31.320 We heard about. 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:38.640 That last week and i and i you know i got back you know i i uh the hell's been 00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:45.140 going on you know i don't have much to talk about is like talking you know it doesn't make it vegas it. 00:12:45.140 --> 00:12:48.260 Just has to be not newsy stuff it doesn't even have to to be like. 00:12:48.260 --> 00:12:49.900 No well i'm personal story. 00:12:49.900 --> 00:12:53.400 You know you could be like hey there's this you know. 00:12:53.400 --> 00:12:58.440 Well i here here okay here's something that happened yes we can put some of the tech. 00:12:58.440 --> 00:12:59.640 News stuff in this segment. 00:12:59.640 --> 00:13:05.700 No no here's something that happened yesterday yeah okay all right i i left 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:10.040 for lunch i had been you know working from home a lot and i'm like look let 00:13:10.040 --> 00:13:14.740 me go get you know i got back the whole week and i'm like let me go let me go 00:13:14.740 --> 00:13:18.080 grab some lunch okay so i go i went i drove out to grab some lunch. 00:13:18.280 --> 00:13:24.520 When I came back, there's a few teenagers sitting with a Tesla near the entrance 00:13:24.520 --> 00:13:28.520 at a condo. And I didn't think much of it because sometimes people, 00:13:28.680 --> 00:13:32.400 for whatever the hell reason, are waiting for somebody there. 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:37.760 It's not common. It's not really a proper place to do it. But anyway, whatever. 00:13:38.260 --> 00:13:42.260 Then my wife says, hey, honey, have you noticed that that car's been sitting there for hours? 00:13:43.780 --> 00:13:46.680 What do you mean? Yeah. Did you see the white Tesla at the entrance? 00:13:47.340 --> 00:13:51.220 And I'm like, well, I, I saw it, but I didn't think much of it. 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:55.000 So I go and I look at the surveillance cameras and look at it and I see that 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:59.320 this is a used, well, these people, there's no way they bought it. 00:13:59.680 --> 00:14:03.740 Is it, this is like three teenagers driving around in a model three, 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.200 which there's a lot of cheap model threes now to be had. 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:13.580 Okay. This is a car now that there are a lot of used examples around. Okay. 00:14:13.780 --> 00:14:18.640 and that that can be had for, you know, 10,000, 15,000, you know, 00:14:18.640 --> 00:14:24.000 the price of a used car because, you know, Tesla drop prices so much that there's a lot around. 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:30.760 And I looked at, it's got what looks like, it looked like two flat tires on 00:14:30.760 --> 00:14:35.560 the right side, but then I realized only one and it's crashed on the front right. 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.020 And I'm like, what the, but, but wait, 00:14:39.140 --> 00:14:42.060 but even more, no beyond the flat tire no 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:45.560 when i was leaving i know 00:14:45.560 --> 00:14:48.400 that i looked at what i first saw it it had 00:14:48.400 --> 00:14:51.540 no right rear tire and it 00:14:51.540 --> 00:15:00.380 was on the ground not on a jack okay and i'm like wait how the fuck is this 00:15:00.380 --> 00:15:06.140 car on the ground with no tire how did they make it here how the hell they get 00:15:06.140 --> 00:15:10.660 here okay okay so i i I went back, you know, because I'm the president of the association. 00:15:10.780 --> 00:15:13.220 We pulled the surveillance cameras. Let me see what the fuck happened. 00:15:13.460 --> 00:15:17.960 Well, look, apparently sometime like at noon, these guys are driving around 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:23.960 for whatever the hell reason when they went and they realized that they had a flat tire. 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:28.380 OK, apparently I thought maybe the crash had something to do with a flat tire. 00:15:28.460 --> 00:15:30.060 No, the crash. Apparently they had crashed. 00:15:30.640 --> 00:15:32.980 They just know it is that they had a flat tire. They pulled in front. 00:15:33.040 --> 00:15:36.220 They looked at it. Oh, yeah, we got a flat tire. And then somehow they crawled 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:38.040 to the entrance of the condo and they couldn't leave. 00:15:38.760 --> 00:15:44.500 And so instead of calling a tow truck, for whatever reason, these geniuses decided 00:15:44.500 --> 00:15:48.460 to call a friend, okay, with another car. 00:15:48.780 --> 00:15:55.760 They decided to take the tire off, drop the car to the ground, which, by the way, 00:15:55.860 --> 00:16:04.060 for those of you who don't know, is a horrible idea because it will most likely 00:16:04.060 --> 00:16:07.660 damage your dumbass car, you idiots. 00:16:07.800 --> 00:16:13.160 Okay. Because there's no graceful way to get it to fall on the ground. 00:16:13.280 --> 00:16:16.360 If you have it on the fucking jack, okay? 00:16:16.460 --> 00:16:17.780 You can let it down gently. 00:16:18.500 --> 00:16:23.140 No, but you'll let it down to a level, but then you have to rip out the jack. 00:16:23.220 --> 00:16:23.940 Right, right, right, right. 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:29.060 The thing will just drop on the fucking ground because you don't have the tire. 00:16:29.900 --> 00:16:33.000 Because the tire usually holds it above the jack. At some point, 00:16:33.060 --> 00:16:36.520 when the tire is not there, it will slam to the ground. 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:38.060 Right, okay, yes. 00:16:38.280 --> 00:16:45.580 OK, and so and then they they apparently decided, oh, well, just now we won't call a tow truck. 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:52.420 We will have somebody take the tire to a shop, put on a tire, 00:16:52.580 --> 00:16:57.260 bring it back and then put it on the fucking car because the car obviously does not have a spare. 00:16:57.420 --> 00:17:00.720 And one of the fucking things that I've realized right now is that everybody 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:08.080 ignores their goddamn TPMS warnings because all these cars have tire modern cars. 00:17:08.280 --> 00:17:11.240 have tire pressure monitoring and they will fucking 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.620 put a light on your dashboard hey your air 00:17:14.620 --> 00:17:17.560 pressure is low maybe you should check that 00:17:17.560 --> 00:17:21.740 out and i the a 00:17:21.740 --> 00:17:24.740 large portion of the driving population 00:17:24.740 --> 00:17:28.440 ignores the fucking warning until 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:34.760 they get a fucking flat and they're stranded it for like five hours and then 00:17:34.760 --> 00:17:40.500 i realized that this teenager generation has no idea i've noticed it's not just 00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:43.840 the teenagers i've noticed that nobody knows how to fucking change a flat anymore 00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:46.880 they have no clue i wouldn't know how to do. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.560 It right now i mean i think i did. 00:17:48.560 --> 00:17:49.980 But you've done it i. 00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:55.760 Think i did it once or at least was there when somebody else was doing it when 00:17:55.760 --> 00:18:02.380 i was a teenager major but not i haven't had any need or experience since then and if if i had a flat. 00:18:02.380 --> 00:18:03.780 Tire do you have triple a oh. 00:18:03.780 --> 00:18:04.960 Yeah i would call it. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.960 Okay but you okay i would call triple a and call triple a but that's the thing 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:14.080 these morons i would not make any attempt to deal with myself exactly but at 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:17.080 least you would do the smart thing which is okay great too complicated for me 00:18:17.080 --> 00:18:21.000 called fucking triple a so no they don't have triple a they don't have fucking 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:24.220 anything they get a fucking flat they They drop the car on the ground. 00:18:24.280 --> 00:18:27.100 They call some bozo to go pick up the tire, take it to a shop, 00:18:27.120 --> 00:18:29.620 bring it back, which, by the way, not for nothing. 00:18:29.840 --> 00:18:32.720 It's not like that's really that cheap either to do. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.160 Right. And I'm like, and I'm like looking at this and I'm like. 00:18:37.010 --> 00:18:40.550 People don't know how to do shit anymore. They don't know how to do anything, Sam. 00:18:41.370 --> 00:18:45.090 Nobody knows how to fucking do anything anymore. If they're under 40, 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:49.670 they have no clue how to fucking do anything. 00:18:50.870 --> 00:18:52.450 They can't fix anything. 00:18:53.490 --> 00:18:56.550 Well, like I said, I can't fix anything either, so I can't. 00:18:56.550 --> 00:18:58.250 No, but you see, you know. 00:18:58.690 --> 00:18:59.710 I know who to call. 00:18:59.990 --> 00:19:02.530 Well, fuck, they don't even know that. 00:19:03.450 --> 00:19:07.390 Well, there's also, well, like you said, there's a money factor there too, right? Like. 00:19:07.670 --> 00:19:13.130 AAA is cheap. What the fuck? Listen, if you, listen, if you know you're a clown with a car. 00:19:14.990 --> 00:19:20.710 But I mean, sign up for AAA. Hell, I think even Tesla has roadside anyway to 00:19:20.710 --> 00:19:22.390 come and help you with a fucking thing anyway. 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:23.750 Right, right. 00:19:26.030 --> 00:19:27.670 It's all, but always. 00:19:27.770 --> 00:19:32.330 My wife was like, well, they're young. Don't be so harsh. I'm like, yeah, yeah. 00:19:32.530 --> 00:19:39.950 Well, see, the thing is, like, with things like AAA, that it's essentially insurance, 00:19:40.250 --> 00:19:44.770 except you're not required to have it, like regular, like, car insurance. 00:19:44.850 --> 00:19:46.230 You're required by law to have. 00:19:46.450 --> 00:19:50.070 AAA, you are not required by law to have. So the normal thing, 00:19:50.150 --> 00:19:53.790 and this goes to the mindset we've talked about in terms of, 00:19:53.830 --> 00:19:58.850 like, you know, computer security stuff, too, at corporations and stuff. 00:19:58.850 --> 00:20:03.530 It's like, you know, why spend money on prevention? 00:20:03.910 --> 00:20:06.170 You just deal with the problem once it happens. 00:20:06.370 --> 00:20:08.430 Yeah, once you deal with, yeah, exactly. Right. I know. 00:20:08.710 --> 00:20:13.810 You know, so, and, and, you know, I'll, I'll fully admit to myself, 00:20:13.950 --> 00:20:17.290 like there's, you know, there's some things that I, 00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:23.490 you know, like I have AAA, like we just talked about, but there are other things 00:20:23.490 --> 00:20:26.070 that I would have to be proactive about. 00:20:26.070 --> 00:20:29.410 out like triple a i said you know i i have had. 00:20:29.410 --> 00:20:33.690 Triple your credit card it just bills you and you got it period that yeah i don't have to. 00:20:33.690 --> 00:20:38.530 Do anything i don't have to remember anything but like if it's maintenance on 00:20:38.530 --> 00:20:43.190 crap that i have to like schedule like every every once in a while to have somebody 00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:48.050 come in and do something how that that that stuff's not gonna get done until something breaks. 00:20:48.050 --> 00:20:58.350 Oh man you know you know but well i can't people one well one other problem 00:20:58.350 --> 00:21:03.290 is you know and i've experienced this is that auto manufacturers also are not 00:21:03.290 --> 00:21:06.170 putting spare tires in a lot of cars yeah you've you've complained. 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:07.330 About this before they're. 00:21:07.330 --> 00:21:12.770 Which is a problem yeah which is a problem okay and you know they they send 00:21:12.770 --> 00:21:16.050 these fix a flat kits that But in my experience when I tried them, 00:21:16.090 --> 00:21:17.650 they don't fucking work. Okay. 00:21:18.130 --> 00:21:24.630 So you're basically at the mercy of getting the car towed to a tire shop. Okay. 00:21:25.150 --> 00:21:29.510 Yeah. And that's, you know, and that's, and that's an issue. 00:21:29.630 --> 00:21:31.590 I have to say that, you know. 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:40.200 You know, BMW for a while had been taking away spare tires, but for the most 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.900 part, if they did that, they had put run flat tires on the cars. 00:21:43.980 --> 00:21:47.100 And I am, by the way, pro run flat tires. Okay. 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.680 And, and I find it now really irritating that so many manufacturers have taken 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.840 a route of getting rid of the spare tire, but not include run flat tires with 00:21:54.840 --> 00:21:59.700 the car as a fault, which is, I think that is, is, is, is ridiculous. 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:03.960 Because when I had run flat tires on the cars that I had with that and there 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.460 was an issue with the tire, all you saw, oh, I got the warning. 00:22:06.580 --> 00:22:10.320 Oh, OK, I'll go to the repair shop and whatever. You can drive a good amount 00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:15.000 with the tire, you know, flat without an issue. 00:22:15.560 --> 00:22:22.040 It's not, you know, and so I so fuck my auto manufacturers just fucking go with 00:22:22.040 --> 00:22:23.500 a goddamn run flat tires. 00:22:23.620 --> 00:22:26.440 All the fucking tires should be run flat tires, period. 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.120 That's my that. So that's my conclusion. from this 00:22:30.120 --> 00:22:33.480 because if we're creating a generation of morons that 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.780 can't do anything mechanically unfortunately okay you 00:22:36.780 --> 00:22:41.340 know for whatever reason just because there aren't that the number of mechanical 00:22:41.340 --> 00:22:45.420 things that people have to do have been reduced so their mechanical skills are 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:53.280 down to nothing well then you need to compensate and it's not you know having 00:22:53.280 --> 00:22:55.720 to call a tow truck to take the car to the damn dealer. 00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:59.760 That's really just preposterous. So anyway, anyway, all right, 00:22:59.780 --> 00:23:02.240 moving on, moving on. Okay. Yeah. 00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:05.100 Should we just move on or do you want a movie? 00:23:05.620 --> 00:23:06.620 Are you going to do a movie? 00:23:06.820 --> 00:23:10.720 I don't know. I talked about sleeping and all that kind of stuff at the beginning. 00:23:10.780 --> 00:23:14.020 So that was kind of my thing. Like we can save the movie for next time. 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.720 Let's save the movie for next time. So we don't, we don't want to make a three hour show. 00:23:18.040 --> 00:23:23.620 Exactly. You know, the last couple shows, you not feeling great has contributed 00:23:23.620 --> 00:23:25.600 to them. actually being a reasonable length. 00:23:26.040 --> 00:23:30.800 Well, yeah, yes. As I am there, like just, just, you know, like just, 00:23:30.820 --> 00:23:33.500 just, just struggling to record a show. 00:23:33.900 --> 00:23:39.480 Yes, it definitely, you know, has contributed to a shorter show time. Yes. 00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:43.900 Okay. Anyway, we'll take a break and then we will do the first of our newsy 00:23:43.900 --> 00:23:47.840 segments where Yvonne will pick some exciting stuff to talk about. 00:23:48.580 --> 00:23:49.060 Exiting. 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:51.700 Exiting. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. 00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:03.540 Okay, here we go. So, Yvonne, what do you want to talk about? Talk about, talk about. 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:09.000 You know what? I'm going to start because I know the big thing this week was the debate. 00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:12.580 Okay. And everything that came out of it. And everything that came out of it. 00:25:12.600 --> 00:25:15.540 But that happened, like, it seemed like already like a decade ago. Yeah. 00:25:15.560 --> 00:25:18.720 Okay. So, I'll pick up that topic in the next segment if you go with something. 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.160 But what I'm going to talk about is something that happened later in the week. 00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:26.000 Okay. Related to DJT stock. Okay. 00:25:26.020 --> 00:25:27.300 All right. Okay. Okay. 00:25:27.320 --> 00:25:33.980 Okay. so the the lock-up period for trump to sell his shares ends very spire 00:25:33.980 --> 00:25:37.480 no it already expired oh i fired this week oh i thought it was like. 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:38.940 Coming soon but not. 00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:42.900 Yeah i think it okay so i think it expired on friday i think it was something 00:25:42.900 --> 00:25:47.100 okay okay all right so let me look okay well let me double check because okay 00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:53.300 let me double check okay i'm on it i'm on it i'm on it the stock orchestrated by buyer beware, 00:25:53.340 --> 00:25:56.800 represent a loan and watch it. Oh God. 00:25:57.300 --> 00:26:05.580 But while I look, while I find this out, but the main thing is that the stock 00:26:05.580 --> 00:26:08.920 had been plummeting, okay, and falling and falling and falling and falling and falling. 00:26:09.580 --> 00:26:14.300 And obviously, you know, Donald has the lockup, okay, which I don't, 00:26:14.300 --> 00:26:16.380 I can't find the exact date right now. 00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:20.580 I thought on, I thought he said that it was like expiring, like last week, 00:26:20.600 --> 00:26:21.760 but it could be early next week. 00:26:21.800 --> 00:26:25.520 It's really irrelevant when the lockup expires right now at this point for the 00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:26.660 purposes of what I'm trying to explain. 00:26:26.860 --> 00:26:30.760 But it's like, it's in the coming days. The problem is that it's next week. 00:26:30.820 --> 00:26:32.200 Okay. So the problem is that, 00:26:33.260 --> 00:26:37.580 you know the stock is very thinly traded okay and so one of the things with 00:26:37.580 --> 00:26:41.820 thinly traded stock is that when it's thinly traded like that it's very easy 00:26:41.820 --> 00:26:45.220 easy to manipulate the price of the stock okay donald. 00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:46.380 Would never do that even. 00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:53.440 You know maybe not dot well well uh nobody would ever do. 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:54.540 That for the pure and. 00:26:54.540 --> 00:27:03.280 Oh i don't know djt stock so look early in this there was very clearly a big 00:27:03.280 --> 00:27:05.240 pump and dump of, of shares. Okay. 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:10.340 A lot of people talked it up. Uh, just a whole bunch of fools. 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:11.280 Just fundamentally. 00:27:11.520 --> 00:27:12.800 They bit up the, yeah. 00:27:12.840 --> 00:27:16.920 Before you go anywhere else, just fundamentally, like the market cap of this 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.200 thing is like $6 billion or something. 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:24.960 And it has, and it's losing money. No, It's down less than that. 00:27:24.980 --> 00:27:27.620 But my point is, whatever it's billions. No, no. 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.760 It's shed $6 billion in the last few months. Yes. 00:27:30.820 --> 00:27:34.760 But, But I thought it still was at $6 billion. It started at $12 or something. 00:27:34.780 --> 00:27:36.480 It's his. Let's see. 00:27:36.540 --> 00:27:37.100 But regardless. 00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:41.120 No, no, no. No, no, no. It's worth, to be precise, $3 billion right now. 00:27:41.140 --> 00:27:42.720 Okay. It's worth $3 billion right now. 00:27:42.760 --> 00:27:45.040 And his stake is worth $2.1 billion. 00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:49.940 Okay. Fine. The point is, it's got billions of dollars of market cap, 00:27:50.100 --> 00:27:56.600 but it is just continuously losing money, and its actual revenue is tiny. 00:27:56.780 --> 00:28:01.800 Tiny. Tiny, tiny, tiny. It's nothing. I've heard people multiple times make 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:10.120 the comparison that says this entire company makes less money than one single McDonald's franchise. 00:28:11.070 --> 00:28:11.810 Basically, yes. 00:28:11.950 --> 00:28:16.190 That's correct. Not McDonald's, the corporation. One single McDonald's. 00:28:16.210 --> 00:28:17.510 One store. One store. 00:28:17.510 --> 00:28:24.610 Yes. And so like anything that has this thing being worth pretty much anything. 00:28:25.010 --> 00:28:29.070 Billions. Certainly billions, but like a fair value. 50 million. 00:28:29.350 --> 00:28:30.730 100 million. Yeah. 00:28:30.810 --> 00:28:35.230 That is ridiculous. Right. So what would be a fair value for this thing. 00:28:35.270 --> 00:28:35.490 Yvonne? 00:28:35.690 --> 00:28:41.150 Like nothing? I mean, it's like losing money. It's like, is it worth anything? 00:28:41.150 --> 00:28:44.170 I don't even know what the fucking business, I don't, I think it's worthless. 00:28:44.430 --> 00:28:48.750 I mean, I don't know what the hell, there is no practical business plan. 00:28:49.130 --> 00:28:49.890 So anyway. 00:28:50.010 --> 00:28:52.530 To make this, but profit make it. 00:28:52.610 --> 00:28:59.310 But yet it has a huge value and the huge value is clearly just people doing 00:28:59.310 --> 00:29:01.150 manipulation, pump and jump. 00:29:01.150 --> 00:29:04.370 Yes, a lot of people, you know, and that's the thing. Initially, 00:29:04.370 --> 00:29:07.390 the reason why it went up is a lot of people talked it up. 00:29:07.390 --> 00:29:12.770 I will add one more thing. Wait, one more thing that's important that people have talked about. 00:29:12.910 --> 00:29:20.230 It also provides a vehicle to buy, buying the stock and pumping it up. 00:29:20.590 --> 00:29:25.890 You are effectively giving money to Donald Trump. Yeah, giving money to Donald Trump. 00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:30.610 Correct. That's right. But well, in the short term, here's the problem here. 00:29:30.870 --> 00:29:35.890 But here's the big problem that that they're that Donald's facing. This isn't liquid. 00:29:36.150 --> 00:29:39.450 Nobody's loaning him money against these shares. The shares are not marginable. 00:29:39.610 --> 00:29:44.410 And so that's why, for example, when he was trying to secure money for the bonds, 00:29:44.530 --> 00:29:49.650 OK, that he needed to post, OK, for the lawsuits, nobody would take these shares, OK? 00:29:50.010 --> 00:29:53.370 Because everybody because one of the problems with these shares is that because 00:29:53.370 --> 00:30:00.050 he owns 60% of the shares, if he were to sell a substantial number of the shares, 00:30:00.350 --> 00:30:02.290 the stock would just collapse. 00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:07.350 Right. I mean, it would collapse like, you know, there is not enough demand 00:30:07.350 --> 00:30:11.550 on the other side to prop up that price. 00:30:11.650 --> 00:30:15.530 And people have been speculating for a long time that basically as soon as he 00:30:15.530 --> 00:30:19.970 was able to, he would just completely rug pull and take out everything he could. 00:30:20.310 --> 00:30:23.510 Everything he could. Right. And so one of the things... 00:30:24.830 --> 00:30:30.210 So one of the things that happened is that as the lockup approached, 00:30:30.610 --> 00:30:36.030 okay, he went publicly and made a fucking public statement. 00:30:36.310 --> 00:30:37.430 That he would not sell. 00:30:37.590 --> 00:30:42.790 That he would not sell. Okay. Which is another way to try to pump up the fucking 00:30:42.790 --> 00:30:46.510 price of this shit box. Okay. And it did. 00:30:46.790 --> 00:30:50.970 Okay. It had an immediate effect of like pumping up the price like 20%, 00:30:50.970 --> 00:30:53.510 you know, 20% on that one day. Okay. 00:30:53.530 --> 00:30:54.590 But then it fell back down. 00:30:55.070 --> 00:30:57.610 No, no, no, no. It stayed up somewhat. 00:30:57.790 --> 00:31:02.870 It stayed up a little bit, but there was a spike, and then it went down most 00:31:02.870 --> 00:31:05.130 of the spike, but it's still higher than it was. 00:31:05.330 --> 00:31:10.910 It's still higher, bottom line. It's still higher. So it got the effect of pushing 00:31:10.910 --> 00:31:12.110 the price up to a certain way. 00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:16.310 But again, I just feel this entire maneuver right now. 00:31:16.450 --> 00:31:20.630 Just to be clear on, higher than it started, but it was back to where it was 00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:23.090 three days earlier. As you said, it had been falling. 00:31:23.270 --> 00:31:26.070 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it had the effect of pumping it 00:31:26.070 --> 00:31:29.710 from the low, because it reached like an all-time low, okay, at that moment. 00:31:30.270 --> 00:31:35.790 But here's the interesting thing, that Trump went and sent out a message, okay? 00:31:35.870 --> 00:31:45.050 He sent out some message saying that the stock was under investigation for manipulation. 00:31:45.590 --> 00:31:46.110 Right. 00:31:46.370 --> 00:31:51.950 Okay, and here is the thing. This was September 13th, so this was yesterday 00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:57.870 at 6, okay? Okay, why is NASDAQ halting the sale of DJT? 00:31:58.610 --> 00:32:01.850 What right do they have to do this? They have done it twice today. 00:32:01.970 --> 00:32:05.770 What's going on? Are they taking orders from the SEC, which for political reasons, 00:32:05.830 --> 00:32:08.770 the latest for an inordinate amount of time, therefore hurting the stock very badly. 00:32:09.130 --> 00:32:12.490 I'm going to hold NASDAQ and maybe the SEC live before they are doing. 00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:15.270 They do it again. We will move the stock to New York Stock Exchange. 00:32:15.450 --> 00:32:16.390 They won't touch the fucking stock. 00:32:16.550 --> 00:32:20.210 It is my intention to own the stock for a long period of time. 00:32:20.210 --> 00:32:23.930 Time! In my opinion, it is the real voice of America! 00:32:24.350 --> 00:32:26.150 But it's definitely my voice! 00:32:26.750 --> 00:32:29.030 And it will be for a long time to come. 00:32:30.070 --> 00:32:33.730 So, you know, as with every statement that Donald Trump says, 00:32:33.930 --> 00:32:36.890 I'm sure that everything that he just said in there is a complete lie. 00:32:37.090 --> 00:32:38.690 He probably intends to... 00:32:39.490 --> 00:32:45.890 cash this thing out as quickly as he is able to, as he has done with everything else for that matter. 00:32:46.010 --> 00:32:49.530 I think about what happened, like why the hell is he, isn't he really a really 00:32:49.530 --> 00:32:54.290 solid billionaire is because he, he liquidated all his dad's real estate properties 00:32:54.290 --> 00:32:56.670 that actually had the cashflow because he needed the fucking money. 00:32:56.790 --> 00:33:02.510 So now the interesting thing is that sec is investigating this because as I've 00:33:02.510 --> 00:33:04.690 mentioned before, this fucking stock, there's been. 00:33:04.790 --> 00:33:06.530 I mean, way, way. 00:33:07.290 --> 00:33:09.010 Way too many, any. 00:33:09.010 --> 00:33:12.010 Well like outside trades just start 00:33:12.010 --> 00:33:15.150 statements yeah pumps well and 00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:18.410 even from the beginning like supposedly like 00:33:18.410 --> 00:33:23.710 if i understand correctly these spacks aren't supposed to approach whoever they're 00:33:23.710 --> 00:33:27.750 intended to buy until they have the funds and blah blah blah and there's evidence 00:33:27.750 --> 00:33:32.570 that there was back and forth with this company before they even did the acquisition 00:33:32.570 --> 00:33:35.970 and you know in improper Proper contacts. 00:33:36.050 --> 00:33:42.410 And so from the very, very beginning, I mean, haven't some people already been charged based on? 00:33:42.670 --> 00:33:46.970 There have been charges. Some settled. 00:33:47.410 --> 00:33:51.070 Digital World Acquisition, the SPAC that was founded and backed by Orlando, 00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:55.750 one of the guys involved, settled fraud charges with the SEC last year. 00:33:55.830 --> 00:33:59.270 Then the regulator sued Orlando this summer, accusing of misleading investors. 00:33:59.610 --> 00:34:03.430 Gee, what a shocker. You know, so those cases are separate from a series of 00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:07.530 lawsuits related to Trump, the stakes of Orlando's ARC, his partners, 00:34:07.730 --> 00:34:11.570 and, you know, and rules surrounding restrictions of sales. 00:34:11.730 --> 00:34:16.710 There's just, this thing is just, it's not just that it's a hypervalued thing 00:34:16.710 --> 00:34:18.570 of something that makes no money, okay? 00:34:18.670 --> 00:34:24.590 It's also an entire cesspool of investigations, fraudsters, hucksters, 00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:29.170 lawsuits. I mean, you know, even the people themselves. 00:34:29.310 --> 00:34:33.650 I mean, Donald tried to pull the rug out from his partners and take away their shares. 00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:39.790 I mean, it's just, you know, it's the ultimate shit show. It really is. 00:34:39.950 --> 00:34:43.510 And well, but he is screaming, Yvonne. 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:50.860 If you're casting doubt on this one, at least you can have confidence in the Donald Trump NFTs. 00:34:51.540 --> 00:34:55.340 All the NFTs. Yes, of course. Yeah, those are. 00:34:56.460 --> 00:35:02.480 And the thing is, as I saw on the cover of Bloomberg today, the first thing 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.400 is, first story, Trump can only watch this as media stake takes a $4 billion dive. 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.720 Buyer beware, said Paul Krager, co-founder. And then right under that, 00:35:11.740 --> 00:35:16.620 talking about the NFTs, beyond the Trump crypto project, there's a self-described 00:35:16.620 --> 00:35:18.160 dirtbag of the internet. 00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:21.540 Oh, yeah. The new Trump crypto project that's about to launch, 00:35:21.640 --> 00:35:23.800 by the way. Not the NFTs from before. 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.280 Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, it's amazing. You know, it's like, I mean, 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:34.060 the guy, you know, I always love to make sure that my investments are directly 00:35:34.060 --> 00:35:37.140 tied to somebody that is called the dirtbag of the internet. 00:35:37.140 --> 00:35:41.000 I know that that, that, that gives me, you know, that, that totally gives me 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.020 the warm and fuzzies about where my money is. I don't know about you. 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:44.860 Of course. 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.240 That's, that's just, that, that's just the way I like my, well, 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:48.980 that's where I like to park my money for sure. 00:35:49.260 --> 00:35:54.760 So, so really, if you look, if you look at all the stuff surrounding this company, the DJT company. 00:35:56.140 --> 00:36:04.080 Listen, a whole bunch of morons, fraudsters and hucksters are in this damn thing. Nobody else can. 00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:08.980 Well, right. Yeah. Yeah, and true believers who believe it's the way to support Donald Trump. 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.540 Oh, those are the morons. Oh, those are the morons. 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.760 Okay. And also people who are using it as a mechanism for bribery as well. 00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:18.840 Oh, and yes, absolutely. Yes. 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.080 You know, someone pointed out that if Donald Trump wins, 00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:26.820 like, you know, if you thought you had emoluments issues before, 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:36.100 having a publicly traded company where he has majority ownership is just an open door to. 00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:40.040 It's just hyper, you know, inflate the stock to the moon. Hey, 00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:43.800 Donald, we're buying, you know, we're going to make a huge buy. 00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:44.660 Right. 00:36:44.700 --> 00:36:45.320 A huge buy. 00:36:46.580 --> 00:36:50.200 We're going to buy, you know, whatever. We're going to pump that price to the moon. 00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:55.260 And, you know, as far as I can tell, you know, SCOTUS would be fine with it 00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:57.580 too. They, their only problem is they weren't in on it. 00:36:58.180 --> 00:36:59.640 Basically. Only some of them. 00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:08.880 No, but my, my question to you was, is there enough here that we're talking 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:16.480 a serious chance of more criminal charges against either Trump or the people around him? 00:37:16.580 --> 00:37:18.060 For sure. For sure. 00:37:18.340 --> 00:37:20.960 Do you think Trump is Trump himself exposed? 00:37:21.680 --> 00:37:25.780 I'm sure he is because he's made, listen, making all these public statements 00:37:25.780 --> 00:37:31.760 about a stock that are fraudulent is, is, is a crime. Well, but I mean. 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.480 But let's keep in mind, like, didn't Elon get in trouble for this over and over 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.380 and over again, but never really pay a million. 00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:40.960 No, he got, he got fined a lot of money. Okay. 00:37:41.100 --> 00:37:45.780 Now, you know, he's money. No, no, by the way, but, but here's the one thing. 00:37:45.780 --> 00:37:48.880 i don't know if you've noticed you know what 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.800 i don't know if you've noticed that he's actually cut back on 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.060 the stupid bullshit he says about his about about about 00:37:55.060 --> 00:37:57.780 stock yeah yeah because it did 00:37:57.780 --> 00:38:00.760 get him into a whole bunch of trouble it did enforce a monitor 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:03.480 to people they did force them to do a whole bunch of things 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.280 so even as if you haven't 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.320 noticed when it comes to like saying stuff that like 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.280 like you said before like funding secured or that kind of crap 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.180 or whatever ever he hasn't been doing that and 00:38:15.180 --> 00:38:18.260 it's because i know his board basically said stop fucking 00:38:18.260 --> 00:38:21.760 with the goddamn stock okay right 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.800 and so so he has been avoiding that okay of 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.180 the few things that he's avoiding getting into trouble about which apparently 00:38:29.180 --> 00:38:35.800 he's just i i you know i will tell you that elon so he's been banned in brazil 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:41.940 you know x has been banned in brazil yep man i'm i'm I'm looking at that's going 00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:44.220 to embolden other countries to say, fuck you, you're, you're, 00:38:44.220 --> 00:38:45.340 you're banned. You're done. 00:38:45.660 --> 00:38:48.780 You know, I, I think that the rate is going. 00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.760 I saw that he's getting into trouble with Australia where he also called them 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:57.060 fascists. I'm sure that then I'm sure the regular just really love that have, have him saying that. 00:38:58.860 --> 00:38:59.560 So, okay. 00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:02.380 You got more on this? 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:03.860 No, no, no. 00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:07.760 Shall we take a break and then do politics? 00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:12.040 Well, it was only one subject. We can jump straight into politics and then we take a break. 00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:16.840 You know, one and one. I picked one. You picked one. You want to take a break? Okay, take a break. 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.120 Well, what we've been doing lately, we could alternate like that. 00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:22.880 What we've been doing is the whole first segment is stuff you pick. 00:39:23.020 --> 00:39:26.260 And then the whole second segment is stuff I pick. So do you have more to pick 00:39:26.260 --> 00:39:28.380 in your segment since it isn't that long? 00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:31.220 Oh, you want me to pick something else? sure pick. 00:39:31.220 --> 00:39:32.140 Something else all. 00:39:32.140 --> 00:39:35.760 Right also let's pick something else that's going on okay hold on and. 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.240 I mean if you want to jump right into the politics we can it's your choice and 00:39:39.240 --> 00:39:42.880 then i'll pick something else later which might be more politics depending on. 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:48.900 What we do well okay i'm gonna talk about okay there's a second thing i posted 00:39:48.900 --> 00:39:52.800 in here before we're talking to politics it's politics adjacent but it really 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:56.900 isn't and so i posted this thing about flood the zone with shit which is steve 00:39:56.900 --> 00:39:59.000 bannon's thing and this will. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.140 Relate to lots of the other stuff but yes go ahead. 00:40:01.140 --> 00:40:06.840 It relates to it but it's it's i'm talking more a little bit of uh i had an 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:12.040 interaction this week with a 25 year old okay who college educated and whatnot 00:40:12.040 --> 00:40:20.340 and she seriously asked me is michael jackson really dead and i'm like yeah and i'm like. 00:40:21.600 --> 00:40:25.560 Yeah that michael jackson's really dead yeah and 00:40:25.560 --> 00:40:28.600 i can't remember something else that she asked about 00:40:28.600 --> 00:40:31.460 earth is flat have we landed on the not 00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:34.220 not that bad not not not that bad but it was stuff like 00:40:34.220 --> 00:40:37.360 a little bit more and you know 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.300 i will say that what i what i 00:40:40.300 --> 00:40:45.420 did tell her and when i told her it did turn a light bulb on her head and she 00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:49.860 realized oh shit you're right is i said look let me tell you something i've 00:40:49.860 --> 00:40:55.680 been around for a while and worked at executive positions a number We work with 00:40:55.680 --> 00:40:57.620 companies, work with executives and all this stuff. 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.200 And also with, I mean, you know, we're talking with political figures, 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.320 you know, and stuff and other things that I've had direct relationships with. 00:41:05.420 --> 00:41:08.260 And what I said is that, look, let me tell you something. 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.960 Everybody says, like, all these companies and whatever, we're having all these 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.680 conspiracies, we're hiding the murders and things and stuff and whatever. 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:18.620 Let me tell you something. 00:41:19.120 --> 00:41:22.140 Most of these big organizations are so fucking disorganized. 00:41:22.140 --> 00:41:25.860 It's amazing that we even do what the fuck we're supposed to be doing, 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:31.740 let alone, let alone hide such a fucking conspiracy. 00:41:31.820 --> 00:41:34.100 And also, and she thought she, where she's working at, she said, 00:41:34.200 --> 00:41:37.320 holy shit, you're right. Yeah. So, you know what? 00:41:37.940 --> 00:41:43.940 Don't listen to that shit because it's just people like just trying to manipulate and confuse you. 00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:48.100 So at least I did my good deed and tried to finally put in her head, 00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:50.460 oh yeah, what the fuck am I talking about? 00:41:50.620 --> 00:41:53.340 These people can't organize a trip to the bathroom. How the fuck are they going 00:41:53.340 --> 00:41:54.860 to hide, you know, this shit? 00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:59.960 Come on, people. I mean, and, and, but, but what, what it does. 00:42:00.020 --> 00:42:04.460 And by the way, I realize. I don't think this is specific to the places you've 00:42:04.460 --> 00:42:06.500 worked. I mean, it applies to like everywhere. 00:42:07.020 --> 00:42:08.520 Every place I've ever worked. 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.100 I mean, it's just everywhere. I mean, you put it well, it's a miracle. 00:42:13.100 --> 00:42:15.820 anything ever happens if you look at 00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:18.880 the minutiae of what's going on day to day it's just 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:23.640 like people are disorganized there's people like working at odds with each other 00:42:23.640 --> 00:42:29.960 there's miscommunication all over the place all the time all the time and i 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.840 mean you know people are trying not to i mean it's not intentional usually but 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.820 like it's just it's just the nature of large 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:44.160 organizations hell even of small organizations that you know it it's human nature 00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:48.000 it's like heart and like all of these conspiracy things the people that point 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.360 out like all the people who are like they're. 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:54.860 So organized that hermetically they were able to create the synthetic being 00:42:54.860 --> 00:43:00.200 that made us believe that and then every single person organized it so perfectly 00:43:00.200 --> 00:43:02.200 and maintained in a perfect secret. 00:43:02.200 --> 00:43:07.720 Well are you insane i mean people bring this talking about all the we can't even. 00:43:07.720 --> 00:43:08.480 Get two damn. 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.000 Astronauts back. 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:10.720 Down from the. 00:43:10.720 --> 00:43:11.700 Fucking space station. 00:43:11.700 --> 00:43:15.180 Right now for god's sakes and they've been trying to organize that for five 00:43:15.180 --> 00:43:19.700 years how the fuck you think we we would fake a moon mission when for real we 00:43:19.700 --> 00:43:22.980 can't we got these two assholes stuck in there until next year. 00:43:22.980 --> 00:43:28.060 Right well and look you people say this about all these old conspiracy theories 00:43:28.060 --> 00:43:31.980 as well i mean i mentioned the moon landing this is the jfk assassination There's 00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:32.840 this, there's that, there's this. 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:38.680 And it's like, do you realize how many people who would have to have kept their 00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:41.500 mouths shut for decades? 00:43:42.740 --> 00:43:47.480 In order to like keep the truth from coming out, you know, it's like, sorry, 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:53.300 like there's, you know, okay, there, I fully admit there are some secrets that 00:43:53.300 --> 00:43:57.540 end up never being exposed because only a very small number of people knew them 00:43:57.540 --> 00:44:00.300 and they all die taking it to their grave. 00:44:00.460 --> 00:44:06.680 But like for something big where you have like, you know, you had to organize 00:44:06.680 --> 00:44:10.320 a conspiracy and lots of people working together and blah, blah, blah. 00:44:10.600 --> 00:44:12.080 Of thousands of people. 00:44:12.080 --> 00:44:17.480 Of thousands of people i mean you know like oh they faked the moon landing do 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:23.780 you know how many people worked on that shit over the course of like decades 00:44:23.780 --> 00:44:28.080 oh yeah it was all fake all nobody noticed. 00:44:28.080 --> 00:44:29.780 None of those people noticed. 00:44:29.780 --> 00:44:32.180 You know god almighty. 00:44:32.180 --> 00:44:41.020 So but what it what it highlights to me is in this day and age still how the 00:44:41.020 --> 00:44:48.340 strategy the band is strategy and how it's really undermined our. 00:44:48.340 --> 00:44:53.160 Discourse everything in general everything the fundamental issue is forget forget 00:44:53.160 --> 00:44:59.900 about the massive conspiracies the the fundamental problem is that for the normal person 00:45:00.120 --> 00:45:06.480 at all, even for people with lots of time, you know, how do you know who to trust, 00:45:06.980 --> 00:45:10.980 when the zone is being flooded with shit, you know? 00:45:11.020 --> 00:45:13.540 Well, the one thing is that they've also misplayed, you know, 00:45:13.580 --> 00:45:18.160 and I, and I blame also, I blame Democrats and some other people for some of 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:21.660 this in terms of all the people that like, I hate the New York times. 00:45:21.740 --> 00:45:23.240 I'm going to, I'm going to cancel a subscription. 00:45:23.560 --> 00:45:26.780 And the reason why they're pissed off is because they hate what's being published 00:45:26.780 --> 00:45:31.380 for the most part in the opinion page. and for sometimes for being selective 00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:34.260 in what stories they covered. And for headlines, right. 00:45:34.540 --> 00:45:39.480 Because the reality is that most of the facts, the facts that they are mostly 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:44.500 presenting are as accurate as they have been able to gather them. 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.820 There may be, you know, you can nitpick the headlines, you can nitpick the story 00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:53.060 selection, but they are not creating fake stories. 00:45:53.500 --> 00:45:58.780 And to nitpick also the opinion page is ridiculous Because it's a fucking opinion page! 00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:03.920 You know, unfortunately... Oh, well, I don't want to hear those opinions. Well, fuck. 00:46:06.190 --> 00:46:11.470 Look, those opinions are the reality that we live in right now, okay? 00:46:11.530 --> 00:46:16.450 And yes, I disagree with them, but that's the fucking reality of it right now. 00:46:16.790 --> 00:46:19.690 Even on the opposite side of Wall Street Journal, as much as, 00:46:19.690 --> 00:46:24.770 you know, the Wall Street Journal opinion page is a bunch of psychopaths, 00:46:24.770 --> 00:46:28.490 okay, in many cases, the reality is that the newsroom is completely separate 00:46:28.490 --> 00:46:31.230 from that, and they try to cover news as they cover news, 00:46:31.450 --> 00:46:35.570 with facts, with figures, and things, and checking, and whatever the fuck and whatnot. 00:46:36.190 --> 00:46:38.890 But the reality is that they've made everybody question everything. 00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:41.910 And when people don't understand the difference between, say, 00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:44.770 some fucking shitty website, whatever, 00:46:44.990 --> 00:46:48.230 that does no fact checking that just like right now, because what happens is 00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:52.570 you post whatever the fuck it is versus a news organization that for all its 00:46:52.570 --> 00:46:55.450 foibles is actually when they are posting a fact, 00:46:55.690 --> 00:46:57.590 they're trying to check if it is a fact. 00:46:57.590 --> 00:47:02.650 Um well and and but part part of like part of the misinformation techniques 00:47:02.650 --> 00:47:06.950 that have been going on lately and you know even the the the russian influence 00:47:06.950 --> 00:47:11.030 thing indictments that we talked briefly about last week they create places that. 00:47:11.030 --> 00:47:11.870 Look like real or. 00:47:11.870 --> 00:47:16.710 New yeah they create fake websites that are like you know instead of the new 00:47:16.710 --> 00:47:22.310 york times it's the new york news or something and it looks legit because at 00:47:22.310 --> 00:47:26.490 this point like to spin up a website that looks Oh. 00:47:26.490 --> 00:47:27.450 It's the thing. 00:47:27.530 --> 00:47:31.730 It's trivial. It's trivial. It's trivial. You know, like anybody can do it. Anybody. 00:47:31.790 --> 00:47:34.670 And then you start pushing social media stories at it. 00:47:34.690 --> 00:47:39.010 And the first person who, you know, if you just casually look at it and you're 00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:43.230 like, oh, the, the, the, the San Diego Herald. 00:47:43.630 --> 00:47:48.810 Okay. I don't know if the San Diego Herald is a real thing or not. 00:47:49.170 --> 00:47:54.170 I see the story. I read it. It looks legit. And what am I, you know? 00:47:54.170 --> 00:47:59.510 And so like, and I see this all the time now, and I've admitted before, 00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:01.890 I've occasionally fallen for them, right? 00:48:02.050 --> 00:48:08.270 But like, when you see a link to like a story or a quote or a whatever, 00:48:08.450 --> 00:48:14.310 and you do not immediately recognize the source and recognize- Well. 00:48:14.310 --> 00:48:15.690 But here's the thing. 00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:18.470 It's also to be like- doubting it. But here's the thing. Like, 00:48:18.490 --> 00:48:23.390 you know, we, you and I are news junkies. We pay attention to all this all the time. 00:48:23.450 --> 00:48:30.150 If we see a link and it's like, wait a second, like that's not the paper in San Diego. Oh, 00:48:31.230 --> 00:48:33.350 I don't even know. 00:48:33.370 --> 00:48:38.970 You remember that we shared that we shared that somebody had like edited that 00:48:38.970 --> 00:48:44.710 that Fox News page where they showed, you know, like Donald Trump with no military support. 00:48:45.470 --> 00:48:49.870 And, you know, yes. And I think that so many people would fall for it. 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:53.350 And, you know, it was like reality that I shared it. I'm like, 00:48:53.410 --> 00:48:57.890 this has to be. But actually, I shared it. I say this has to be fake. Right. 00:48:58.130 --> 00:49:00.950 Right. OK, well, you know. 00:49:01.230 --> 00:49:04.050 Yeah. And I was like, and then we looked and we said, yep, there's no such bolt. 00:49:04.190 --> 00:49:09.190 I'll give you another example. Just from earlier today on the curmudgeons corner 00:49:09.190 --> 00:49:16.190 slack, one of the people on our slack, it was Pete posted a screenshot of what 00:49:16.190 --> 00:49:17.750 I believe is a Twitter post, 00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:22.070 confirmed Laura Loomer banned from the president's plane. 00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:25.710 Won't be allowed physical access to him. Again, physical access is being stressed, 00:49:25.910 --> 00:49:30.790 perhaps related to Laura's repeated reference to her intimate relationship with DJT. 00:49:31.150 --> 00:49:34.170 Laura's demented lies may cost Trump his election. Now, we're probably going 00:49:34.170 --> 00:49:38.590 to talk about Loomer in the next segment, but the point related to you is this 00:49:38.590 --> 00:49:40.170 is from some guy named Nero. 00:49:40.410 --> 00:49:42.550 Well, it's Milo. 00:49:42.770 --> 00:49:44.050 I know, it's Milo, but yeah. 00:49:44.690 --> 00:49:47.230 Well, of course, who knows if it's really Milo or not. 00:49:47.230 --> 00:49:50.730 Who knows if it, like, it's got a little checkmark, but who knows what those 00:49:50.730 --> 00:49:53.530 mean on Twitter these days. And even if it, 00:49:56.010 --> 00:50:02.550 was from that guy, Milo Yanan, whatever his name was. 00:50:03.110 --> 00:50:05.590 That's not exactly a trustworthy source. 00:50:05.770 --> 00:50:06.390 No, no. 00:50:06.710 --> 00:50:06.910 You know? 00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:14.370 But I think, well, I don't know if... To be fair, wait, wait, wait. 00:50:14.450 --> 00:50:20.730 I don't think that Pete was posting this as some kind of authoritative thing. 00:50:20.810 --> 00:50:21.250 No, no, no. 00:50:21.250 --> 00:50:25.230 I think he was posting it about the shit that... 00:50:25.850 --> 00:50:26.250 No, I know. 00:50:26.290 --> 00:50:29.230 The crazy discussion that they're having inside. Here's the point, though. 00:50:29.230 --> 00:50:29.990 Here's the point, though. 00:50:29.990 --> 00:50:30.310 The Republican circles. 00:50:30.430 --> 00:50:35.430 This thing says confirmed colon. I guarantee you... 00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:39.050 that all sorts of people seeing this are like, oh, it was confirmed. 00:50:39.290 --> 00:50:41.890 No, no, no. Yes, correct. That's exactly right. 00:50:41.990 --> 00:50:43.270 Confirmed by fucking who? 00:50:43.650 --> 00:50:44.090 Who? 00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:45.090 How was it confirmed? 00:50:47.930 --> 00:50:50.250 No, no, it was confirmed. It's true. 00:50:50.410 --> 00:50:50.850 Confirmed. 00:50:50.930 --> 00:50:56.610 It's definitely, this is the thing, you know? And this is the kind of stuff you see all the time. 00:50:57.050 --> 00:51:02.910 And certainly social media is a big conduit for this kind of stuff, but elsewhere as well. 00:51:02.910 --> 00:51:09.470 And the thing is like, you know, if, if you are a casual consumer who only hears 00:51:09.470 --> 00:51:14.550 things every once in a while, then you don't like somebody says confirmed, 00:51:14.670 --> 00:51:17.330 like I, how the fuck do I know? 00:51:17.830 --> 00:51:22.570 And, and, you know, and if you see a link to an article and it looks like a 00:51:22.570 --> 00:51:26.350 legitimate site, how do you know that this is actually a bogus site or this 00:51:26.350 --> 00:51:29.190 is a site with a clear agenda or whatever? 00:51:29.190 --> 00:51:34.910 And also, by the way, you've been trained not to trust the New York Times, 00:51:35.070 --> 00:51:36.530 the Washington Post, CNN. 00:51:36.850 --> 00:51:42.270 You don't trust any of those things because you know those are liberal liars. 00:51:42.610 --> 00:51:49.510 Right. And that's been the thing that's been going on where it's the flood the ship thing. 00:51:49.590 --> 00:51:55.630 And it's like, man, I, you know, especially for people who are not. 00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:04.180 diving into the woods around a lot of this right like you said it's very difficult for them to. 00:52:04.180 --> 00:52:08.760 Ascertain what it's hard even for those of us who pay attention a lot it's hard. 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.080 For us it takes effort. 00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:13.340 It takes a lot and we screw up sometimes and. 00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:15.260 We screw up sometimes right yeah. 00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:18.040 Absolutely and and a lot of it is well who can 00:52:18.040 --> 00:52:21.260 you trust who can you not trust and like if you and at 00:52:21.260 --> 00:52:24.440 this point like it is so easy to create 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.200 large volumes of content and the AI stuff is not 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:30.400 helping this no at all you can 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.500 create large volumes of content that looks legitimate and 00:52:34.500 --> 00:52:41.100 and then at a certain point the amount of work it takes to figure out okay I 00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:44.760 can trust this one I can't trust this one and blah blah blah and then every 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:49.420 once in a while the big guys do something that makes you not want to trust them 00:52:49.420 --> 00:52:51.040 anymore because they screw something up, 00:52:51.560 --> 00:52:56.300 And of course, like the, the, one of the big tells of like sort of the legitimate 00:52:56.300 --> 00:53:02.480 places versus the non-legitimate places is the legitimate ones typically admit it when they fuck up. 00:53:02.680 --> 00:53:08.760 Like if, if, if they, if they get a story wrong and then that is proven to them, 00:53:08.780 --> 00:53:10.780 a retraction, they will do a retraction. 00:53:10.940 --> 00:53:14.520 They will post something that has the real story afterwards and say, 00:53:14.560 --> 00:53:15.500 we're sorry about that one. 00:53:15.560 --> 00:53:20.200 We got it wrong. whereas like the places that are just trying to manipulate 00:53:20.200 --> 00:53:21.520 they're they're never going. 00:53:21.520 --> 00:53:24.240 No they'll they'll post contradicting stories one day 00:53:24.240 --> 00:53:27.180 to the next yeah just like donald trump that's 00:53:27.180 --> 00:53:33.120 because yeah i mean he will double and triple down on it yes absolutely but 00:53:33.120 --> 00:53:39.660 yeah so but yeah so i i just uh you know but and this is i realized like i i 00:53:39.660 --> 00:53:44.880 got by the way another youngster another Another youngster this week asked me, 00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:49.200 and I realize because unions have been demonized so much, 00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:51.240 especially by Republicans, 00:53:51.540 --> 00:53:54.060 and you join a union, you're going to get fired or whatever. 00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:58.020 And I had somebody ask me, hey, because they saw this thing about the Boeing strike. 00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:01.180 Right. So if you go on strike, so does that mean you get fired? 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:05.840 And I'm like, no. I'm like, well, what do you mean? 00:54:06.300 --> 00:54:10.840 Well, because there is a process to get to a strike. And I realized that she had no idea. 00:54:10.860 --> 00:54:15.980 Legal protections, blah, blah, blah. It is possible to eventually fire those people depending. 00:54:16.200 --> 00:54:20.220 It is. But if you're following, but if you follow the legal process of negotiation, 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:25.620 you know, getting through the bargaining process and doing all those things, you don't get fired. 00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:29.400 But I realized that that was another thing of misinformation that I'm sure that 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.220 is out there, which is like this thing about scaring young people into like, 00:54:33.380 --> 00:54:36.180 oh, you, you joined a union, you're going to get fired. 00:54:36.900 --> 00:54:39.960 And I'm like, no, no, no. 00:54:40.060 --> 00:54:45.860 There is a right to strike. There is, you know, you can, if you negotiate and 00:54:45.860 --> 00:54:47.820 have done these things, you can just, you know... 00:54:49.390 --> 00:54:55.750 You know, you can, you know, strike and, you know, if you follow the process, 00:54:55.910 --> 00:54:57.170 it doesn't mean you get fired. 00:54:57.290 --> 00:55:07.030 But I realize it's another thing that, man, you know, this generation is getting hit by so much shit. 00:55:07.810 --> 00:55:13.290 Well, and this is exactly the point. You know, you mentioned Steve Bannon's 00:55:13.290 --> 00:55:18.710 quote of flood the zone with shit, but it's part of a much older tradition. 00:55:18.710 --> 00:55:26.530 it's part of an authoritarian slash fascist tradition well it goes back this goes back. 00:55:26.530 --> 00:55:29.030 To the era of like complete you know gaslighting. 00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:32.210 Gobbles and all those but they. 00:55:32.210 --> 00:55:34.530 Controlled all the mediums of communication one. 00:55:34.530 --> 00:55:39.790 Thing that's happened of course the key is that I wanted to say though is the 00:55:39.790 --> 00:55:46.230 whole point is make it so people don't trust anything anything Because then 00:55:46.230 --> 00:55:48.650 if they don't trust anything, 00:55:48.970 --> 00:55:51.450 it's very easy to come in and manipulate. 00:55:51.810 --> 00:55:56.990 Like if there's no sense of, okay, we know this set of things is true. 00:55:57.250 --> 00:56:04.310 If that is undermined and so lots and lots of people just have no idea what's 00:56:04.310 --> 00:56:11.710 true, then they're wide open blank slates for you to manipulate and you to push your vision of things. 00:56:11.710 --> 00:56:17.190 And that's when somebody that's charismatic and sounds good and sounds trustworthy 00:56:17.190 --> 00:56:22.110 can come in and do whatever they want, you know? 00:56:22.870 --> 00:56:24.850 Yeah. Well, I think that. 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:30.200 The one thing that it does create is just a situation where, 00:56:30.300 --> 00:56:36.160 you know, you posted this poll question that they did about the cats and dogs like. Yeah. 00:56:36.200 --> 00:56:38.020 And we'll undoubtedly be talking about. 00:56:38.060 --> 00:56:41.020 We'll talk about how that and, you know, how. 00:56:41.600 --> 00:56:42.500 This was a you. 00:56:42.620 --> 00:56:47.100 54. Yeah. 54% said it was false. 26% it was true. 00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:52.000 I will admit that I feel good about the fact there's only 26% that it was true. 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.540 But it definitely did make like that. 00:56:54.600 --> 00:56:58.460 You've got a big percentage of people that that were, again, 00:56:58.680 --> 00:57:01.760 flood the shit, you know, flood the zone with shit. 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.220 They were like, oh, I don't know. 00:57:04.660 --> 00:57:10.200 I don't know. And so and that's and that's and that's what they love to to manipulate. 00:57:10.200 --> 00:57:17.200 I'm sure that, but I'm also sure that a lot of people in that outside the 54% 00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:22.360 that know definitively, that answer definitively, I keep saying there's so many 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.920 of these fucking people that just whatever Trump says, 00:57:25.140 --> 00:57:27.480 they just want to say yes because to own the libs. 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:32.660 The fact, it doesn't matter because they will just say it just to go and say, 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:34.520 yeah, I'm going to say yes to my guy. 00:57:34.700 --> 00:57:38.940 Right. Because it's not a, do you really believe this? 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.100 Right. It's a indicator of your tribe. It's like. 00:57:43.620 --> 00:57:48.880 It's like, you know, and they know the right answer if they're a Trumpy. 00:57:50.300 --> 00:57:56.400 And yeah, that's absolutely part of it too. Like it's not do they really literally 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:57.980 believe this is happening? 00:57:58.060 --> 00:58:01.880 It's do they believe this is the right thing to say right now? 00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:04.040 Because we have to own the libs. 00:58:04.300 --> 00:58:07.180 We have to own the libs. We have to support Donald Trump. 00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:12.120 We have to do this. We have to do that. And so, yeah, but, but still, 00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:16.300 you know, it's an indication and that, 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.160 Yeah, like 26% of the population is ready to say yes. 00:58:22.580 --> 00:58:27.360 They believe that Haitian immigrants are abducting and eating cats and dogs. 00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:32.600 All right. And in conclusion, before we take a break, I want to just say one thing. 00:58:32.720 --> 00:58:33.160 Yes. 00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:40.920 Fuck you, Pope Francis. Pope Francis. Okay, that didn't work out very well. Fuck you, Pope Francis. 00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:46.180 Okay, explain this. Unless you're just randomly saying you want to fuck the Pope. 00:58:46.180 --> 00:58:51.200 I don't want to fuck the Pope. Okay. This, you know, he went, 00:58:51.220 --> 00:58:54.400 he pronounced himself that the choice between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.700 is between two evils. Fuck you, Pope. 00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:00.900 Fuck you, Pope. I mean, that's just preposterous. You asshole. 00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:05.320 I had some modicum of respect for him when we said that. I'm like, 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.880 he completely evaporate. It made it completely evaporate. 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:14.360 So, and just to be clear, his logic is that Trump is evil because he's mean 00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:18.300 to immigrants and Harris is evil because she supports abortion. 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:24.440 She doesn't support abortion. Okay. She supports a woman's right to decide what 00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:29.820 the fuck to do with their damn body because they're not a damn vessel to bring in babies. 00:59:30.460 --> 00:59:33.620 And, you know, and he says, oh, they support abortion. 00:59:33.740 --> 00:59:38.740 No, a fucking woman isn't a goddamn vessel. And nobody else gets to decide what 00:59:38.740 --> 00:59:40.300 the fuck they do with their damn body. 00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:42.220 So, yes. 00:59:43.300 --> 00:59:47.360 Fucking assholes. I'm so sick and tired of them. They want to tell everybody 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.580 else what the fuck to do. Fuck them all. 00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.980 Well, there we go. And with that, let's take a break. 00:59:54.100 --> 01:00:01.480 And then we will come back with debate and politics and all of that stuff. Stuff. 01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:02.300 Stuff. 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.140 Lots of stuff. Stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff. 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:08.380 there's a noise, 01:00:11.140 --> 01:00:16.100 Ivan's got such a face on him right now he's mad okay let's do the break, 01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:12.060 We are back. So I promised politics and I promised debate and all this kind of stuff. 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:16.420 And we sort of previewed, we got dogs and cats. We got Laura Loomer. 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.580 We got all kinds of fun stuff going on. Let's just start with the high level. 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:26.560 Can I start with like, you just mentioned Laura Loomer. I think I saw today. 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:27.900 I can't believe she's 31. 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:29.320 Okay. 01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:31.280 I mean, I, I, it's just. 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.520 I had no opinion about her age previously. 01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:36.640 No, no, no. It's just that. No, no. So the reason I say this is because I feel 01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:39.520 like she's been around being an asshole for a long time. 01:01:39.680 --> 01:01:42.700 It feels longer than 10 years. I don't think she was doing it. She was 11. 01:01:43.340 --> 01:01:43.780 Right. 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.740 So it must be like only in the last decade, I assume. 01:01:48.100 --> 01:01:52.040 Right. And so I'm just a little bit shocked that she's only 31 because, 01:01:52.120 --> 01:01:59.620 I mean, she, listen, this fucking asshole actually ran for Congress for my fucking 01:01:59.620 --> 01:02:00.920 district. Oh, that's right. 01:02:01.180 --> 01:02:04.540 That's right. Yeah. I knew she ran in Florida. I'd forgotten that it was. 01:02:04.540 --> 01:02:06.740 It's in my fucking district. Well, she got crushed. 01:02:06.980 --> 01:02:08.580 I presume you voted for her. 01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:12.040 Yes, of course. She got crushed, okay? 01:02:12.200 --> 01:02:16.440 You know, because the one thing about it is, forget about whether she's a Republican. 01:02:16.680 --> 01:02:17.740 She's unlikable anyway. 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:23.460 I mean, it's like, you know, she's a jerk-off. So nobody likes her anyway. 01:02:24.680 --> 01:02:28.280 It's like Ted Cruz. Well, no, no, she's better than Ted Cruz. 01:02:28.820 --> 01:02:32.820 Here's the one thing. I think more people like Ted Cruz than they like her, as far as I can tell. 01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:37.100 So, but, but yeah, I'm just surprised that she's only 31. Okay. 01:02:37.240 --> 01:02:40.240 I, I didn't realize I'm pretty, let me confirm. Now I said that. 01:02:40.260 --> 01:02:44.140 I believe I've seen that as well. You can feel free to confirm her age. 01:02:44.980 --> 01:02:47.580 Yeah. 31. Yeah. I, I. 01:02:49.140 --> 01:02:52.420 Yeah, she was a Republican nominee to represent Florida's 21st congressional 01:02:52.420 --> 01:02:57.400 district in the 2020 House elections, losing to Democrat Louis Frankel. Thank God. 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:02.000 Who is a lovely lady, by the way. I've met her in person, Louis. 01:03:02.120 --> 01:03:09.500 I mean, it's like literally couldn't be more diametrically opposed difference between Lures. 01:03:09.680 --> 01:03:13.840 Louis Frankel. You know, tangent here for just one second, but you mentioned 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:20.440 you met them. One of the weird things at this point for me with my wife being 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.940 in politics is like when I voted in the primaries. 01:03:25.180 --> 01:03:27.460 Oh, you knew who you were voting for? 01:03:27.660 --> 01:03:32.680 I had personally met almost everybody I voted for. 01:03:34.300 --> 01:03:37.040 I will say I'm not at that extreme. 01:03:37.140 --> 01:03:40.600 But I've met a number of the ones that have been on my ballot. 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:43.640 But no, not everybody. but i mean her 01:03:43.640 --> 01:03:48.420 by the way the reason i met her was because i was on a flight to dc and she 01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:52.300 wound up sitting right beside me and coach one time and that's how i met her 01:03:52.300 --> 01:03:55.600 she just sat right beside me by the way she was sitting in coach which i'm like 01:03:55.600 --> 01:03:58.780 realized okay i love my congresswoman she's sitting right here beside me and 01:03:58.780 --> 01:04:02.380 coach is not fine whatever she's you know this is cool yeah no. 01:04:02.380 --> 01:04:09.040 I mean it's like from local all all the way up like you know i i you know i 01:04:09.040 --> 01:04:13.840 know a bunch of the local Local people – I've met and talked to the Democratic 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:15.540 candidate for governor. 01:04:16.420 --> 01:04:22.680 Just two weekends ago, like I accompanied my wife to some sort of –, 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:28.560 like event for Labor Day. And our congressman, our congresswoman, 01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:31.020 our congresswoman was there, Del Bene. 01:04:31.560 --> 01:04:35.940 And, you know, she comes up to me, shakes my hand, recognizes me from having 01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:38.800 talked to her before from being like Brandy's husband. 01:04:39.120 --> 01:04:41.500 And it's like, this is weird. 01:04:41.860 --> 01:04:45.200 I mean, I did not have an in-depth conversation. 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.260 I have not had in-depth conversations on politics with any 01:04:48.260 --> 01:04:51.420 of of these people but i've met them i've said hi i've been 01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:57.080 like introduced and blah blah blah and and like it's just weird because like 01:04:57.080 --> 01:05:01.480 i don't know it's like these are people that you you're supposed to know about 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:06.800 on the news not people that you actually like would recognize you if they saw 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.440 you that's just weird anyway well. 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.120 There you go so that's her so anyway all right so what are we gonna start. 01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:14.640 Okay so i don't need us. 01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:16.240 On the polls i. 01:05:16.240 --> 01:05:19.560 Wasn't going to you want me to I think it. 01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:20.660 Merits an update on. 01:05:20.660 --> 01:05:20.800 The polls. 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:22.940 Okay, so here's where we're going in the home stretch. 01:05:23.540 --> 01:05:29.400 Okay, so first of all, I posted right after our last show. 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.780 I posted, well, actually a couple days after our last show. 01:05:33.060 --> 01:05:37.640 Right before the debate, I posted a poll update to electiongraphs.com. 01:05:37.740 --> 01:05:41.980 If you go to electiongraphs.com and then click on the blog tab, you can read it. 01:05:42.060 --> 01:05:45.100 There have been quite a few polls just in the last few days. 01:05:45.160 --> 01:05:47.240 Things are getting hot and heavy. There are new polls every day. 01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:51.940 Since we have been recording, there have been new polls. 01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:58.880 Since we've been recording this show, there's been a new poll in Wisconsin, 01:05:59.160 --> 01:06:03.780 a new poll in North Carolina, and four new national results since we've been recording. 01:06:03.940 --> 01:06:04.660 Okay. Okay. 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.520 So I have not put those in. I'm looking at the North Carolina one. 01:06:08.580 --> 01:06:11.940 The North Carolina one will probably flip North Carolina from Harris back to 01:06:11.940 --> 01:06:20.660 Trump once I put it in later. But the bottom line remains, oh my God, this is close as fuck. 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:30.720 That's the bottom line. At the moment, my tipping point as of this very second 01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:34.800 is Harris up by 0.1% in Nevada. 01:06:35.560 --> 01:06:40.580 I bet you when I put this new North Carolina poll in, it will probably flip 01:06:40.580 --> 01:06:48.380 to the Trump side because right now, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania is like a dead tie right now. 01:06:49.150 --> 01:06:55.910 in my average, like literally it says 0.0, which like my, my, 01:06:55.990 --> 01:06:59.490 I actually have logic to try to prevent an actual tie. 01:06:59.730 --> 01:07:05.310 It's actually slightly on the Trump side, but so small, it still rounds to 0.0. 01:07:05.570 --> 01:07:12.070 Anyway, like it is, it is close every like there, there, there, there are tons. 01:07:12.290 --> 01:07:15.730 Let me finish since you asked for this you know 01:07:15.730 --> 01:07:21.750 i've said before like it's just amazing how many states are super close so let 01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:27.330 me let me give you like all of the states right now where the margin in the 01:07:27.330 --> 01:07:34.170 poll average is under two percent wisconsin michigan north carolina nevada pennsylvania. 01:07:35.650 --> 01:07:41.150 Arizona georgia and also i have iowa in that category but that's because there's 01:07:41.150 --> 01:07:42.690 been no polls in Iowa whatsoever. 01:07:42.930 --> 01:07:47.530 I don't think I was really that close. And then Maine's second congressional district as well. 01:07:47.650 --> 01:07:54.430 All of those have averages under 2% right now, which if you like, 01:07:54.470 --> 01:07:58.270 and maybe you trust the polls, maybe you don't, but assume for the moment you 01:07:58.270 --> 01:08:01.130 trust the polls, those are all fucking toss-ups. 01:08:01.690 --> 01:08:07.410 That is a huge number. Any one of those, like I count anything under 5% as toss-ups, 01:08:07.450 --> 01:08:13.890 but these are all under 2%. These are really all states where to put your money 01:08:13.890 --> 01:08:16.550 on either candidate winning would be foolish. 01:08:16.770 --> 01:08:21.010 They could really easily go either way. 01:08:21.430 --> 01:08:29.530 And that takes you, like, if you do my 5% level, you know, it's all the way, 01:08:29.530 --> 01:08:35.570 I, look, it's basically from a Harris landslide to a very solid Trump win right now. 01:08:35.710 --> 01:08:39.850 Like all of those are reasonable possibilities given where polling is right now. 01:08:42.310 --> 01:08:48.950 And that's where we are. I mean, now they're in the last two presidential elections, 01:08:49.250 --> 01:08:51.390 polls have underestimated the Republican. 01:08:51.570 --> 01:08:55.010 If that's true again, then Harris is behind. mind if 01:08:55.010 --> 01:08:59.410 on the other hand we have all the indications that we've had in the last two 01:08:59.410 --> 01:09:04.270 to three years that democrats have been over performing polls and like midterms 01:09:04.270 --> 01:09:07.730 and special elections and all that kind of stuff then maybe harris is in really 01:09:07.730 --> 01:09:11.390 awesome shape but we really don't know we don't know we don't know we don't 01:09:11.390 --> 01:09:13.490 know we don't know now there's. 01:09:13.490 --> 01:09:17.250 One thing there is one thing that i don't because you know you usually focus very. 01:09:17.250 --> 01:09:18.490 On states on states. 01:09:18.490 --> 01:09:22.870 But but But the latest national polls that have. 01:09:22.870 --> 01:09:24.970 Come out. She has pulled up a couple percent. 01:09:25.210 --> 01:09:29.110 Yeah, she definitely has gotten a bump from that debate. 01:09:29.510 --> 01:09:33.530 Definitely gotten a bump. So we'll see how that translates into state polling 01:09:33.530 --> 01:09:37.290 and other things and how lasting it is in part because, you know, 01:09:37.310 --> 01:09:38.850 because Donald basically made. 01:09:39.570 --> 01:09:45.470 Look, I will say this. That was because the reason I said I'm not going to talk 01:09:45.470 --> 01:09:48.150 in general, but what my opinion is, why? Why? 01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:52.440 the she's gotten that much from the debate look that 01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:55.500 was the worst perform debate performance by a president 01:09:55.500 --> 01:09:58.620 since like fucking nixon against kennedy 01:09:58.620 --> 01:10:01.340 okay well i mean he really i mean 01:10:01.340 --> 01:10:04.380 let's i don't think you know people like 01:10:04.380 --> 01:10:09.260 trying to compare it to biden's look biden just sounded old if you read the 01:10:09.260 --> 01:10:15.240 transcript he didn't give you any means this fucking debate he said so much 01:10:15.240 --> 01:10:22.980 such stupid shit that your choice of which one of the preposterous idiotic statements that he did, 01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.580 do you want to make the most fun of? 01:10:25.660 --> 01:10:30.400 Well, okay. We'll get into all the debate stuff first, but since you mentioned 01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:34.240 that, I think there is a winner for that question, which one you want to make 01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:36.580 the most fun of. So here we go. 01:11:39.900 --> 01:11:41.720 okay well yes. 01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:45.080 I i i i mean i i i look 01:11:45.080 --> 01:11:55.420 no one in the history of a televised debate has ever said something so fucking 01:11:55.420 --> 01:12:02.000 idiotic ever it made dan quayle look presidential in a fucking debate. 01:12:02.220 --> 01:12:03.200 Okay? 01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:11.020 I mean, it's just, I mean, the fact that this guy is still in a close race to 01:12:11.020 --> 01:12:18.720 the presidency after saying something like that on national television, okay, is bonkers. 01:12:19.740 --> 01:12:27.240 So let's, yes, Donald Trump completely, like, did badly, but let's not sleep 01:12:27.240 --> 01:12:34.440 on the fact that kamala or kamala harris also did incredibly well oh. 01:12:34.440 --> 01:12:36.480 Yeah yeah yeah it was both it was both. 01:12:36.480 --> 01:12:38.580 Yeah i mean it was like because the. 01:12:38.580 --> 01:12:41.380 Thing is that she she really manipulated. 01:12:41.380 --> 01:12:42.600 Yeah into a. 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:43.660 Lot of these stupid. 01:12:43.660 --> 01:12:45.080 And look what she. 01:12:45.080 --> 01:12:50.020 Really and she let him just oh people are saying oh she's talking too much no 01:12:50.020 --> 01:12:54.820 she's like hey i baited him into it i'm giving him the rope to just fucking like hang himself. 01:12:54.820 --> 01:13:00.020 And here's the thing they telegraphed this strategy for like a week or two before 01:13:00.020 --> 01:13:04.420 the debate as well it's not like they were shy about it walls has spoken about 01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:09.200 it you know i mean since the debate walls has specifically said look look how 01:13:09.200 --> 01:13:12.480 easy this guy is to manipulate imagine fucking. 01:13:12.480 --> 01:13:15.940 Putin or anybody else how they fucking like blame like a fucking violin. 01:13:15.940 --> 01:13:19.700 But this i mean come on but this is the whole thing this is and it was clearly 01:13:19.700 --> 01:13:26.400 a design strategy in every answer that harris did She did it sort of like as a sandwich. 01:13:26.580 --> 01:13:29.260 She would talk about her policy stuff. 01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:32.860 Then she would throw in something to bait Donald Trump. 01:13:33.690 --> 01:13:38.330 And then she would talk about more policy. And then Donald Trump- He couldn't resist. 01:13:38.550 --> 01:13:42.330 He couldn't resist. He could not let go a single one of those things. 01:13:42.750 --> 01:13:49.070 She brings up crowd sizes. She brings up his conviction. She brings up this. She brings up that. 01:13:49.350 --> 01:13:55.590 And the guy, he could not not respond. He could not, not, not, 01:13:55.590 --> 01:13:57.130 not, not, not. He couldn't respond. 01:13:57.930 --> 01:14:00.210 No, no, no. He couldn't not respond. 01:14:00.450 --> 01:14:02.950 Yeah, there you go. Could not not respond. There you go. 01:14:03.030 --> 01:14:05.970 Yeah. Yeah. He just couldn't keep his mouth shut. Yeah. It was like, 01:14:05.970 --> 01:14:09.310 you know, I mean, it was just like, I mean, it's like fucking trigger words. I mean, just whatever. 01:14:10.930 --> 01:14:14.090 And that's the thing too. It's not just that he couldn't respond. 01:14:14.670 --> 01:14:17.070 It's that he couldn't respond rationally. 01:14:17.430 --> 01:14:20.870 Right. He couldn't respond rationally. What he would do is just get emotional 01:14:20.870 --> 01:14:23.390 and just, you know, start spewing horse shit. 01:14:23.850 --> 01:14:29.310 Right. And like, apparently even this cats and dogs thing, which probably is 01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:33.870 worth more time, But this was a prepared thing that they spent. 01:14:34.230 --> 01:14:43.030 From one report I read, he was going to use this to pivot onto other immigration problems. 01:14:43.550 --> 01:14:49.130 And he was actually not going to claim that this was true. He was going to use 01:14:49.130 --> 01:14:55.490 the conversation about it as something to blame the Democrats for and then pivot 01:14:55.490 --> 01:14:57.150 to something else immigration related. 01:14:57.310 --> 01:15:00.890 And they had prepped him on a whole bunch of immigration related stuff. 01:15:01.070 --> 01:15:07.330 But once he got onto this, he could not let go. And he, of course, 01:15:07.370 --> 01:15:11.210 did jump to, it's true, it's happening. I heard it on TV. It must be true. 01:15:12.610 --> 01:15:20.270 You know, and in all of these places where he went off, the problem is he just 01:15:20.270 --> 01:15:22.550 comes off completely unhinged. 01:15:22.730 --> 01:15:24.370 And also, it's... 01:15:26.070 --> 01:15:30.790 Several of these instances, including the immigrants eating pets, 01:15:30.910 --> 01:15:40.250 things were related to deeply online conservative rat hole memes. 01:15:40.770 --> 01:15:45.350 Like you would know what you're there talking about if you spend a lot of time 01:15:45.350 --> 01:15:49.730 on 4chan and gab and these other places. 01:15:49.850 --> 01:15:53.310 But like the normies are just like, 01:15:53.390 --> 01:15:58.910 what the fuck? fuck what is he talking about like i i've seen a number. 01:15:58.910 --> 01:16:01.970 Of my listen my wife was watching the debate okay 01:16:01.970 --> 01:16:07.290 i did not because i and and she was like i don't know if there's a shot of a 01:16:07.290 --> 01:16:11.450 crowd that heard this yeah that they're watching it that exploded laughter she 01:16:11.450 --> 01:16:17.550 was the same she was like what the fuck i mean it's like anybody who just was 01:16:17.550 --> 01:16:21.910 a normal person heard this and just was like Like, 01:16:21.910 --> 01:16:25.110 what in the hell is he going on about? 01:16:25.630 --> 01:16:26.290 Oh, yeah. 01:16:26.310 --> 01:16:28.130 It's just so bizarre. 01:16:28.830 --> 01:16:33.470 And I've seen a number of those sort of reaction shots of like crowds in various 01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:35.630 places that were having watch parties or whatever. 01:16:36.090 --> 01:16:39.550 And yeah, laughter all over the place. 01:16:39.650 --> 01:16:45.010 Now, to be fair, I don't know what the inclination of people at those watch 01:16:45.010 --> 01:16:46.330 parties was to start with. 01:16:46.370 --> 01:16:51.130 I have not seen one that specifically said, here's a crowd of maggots breaking out into laughter. 01:16:51.130 --> 01:16:54.690 Yeah, let me tell you something. I guarantee you that from what I saw, 01:16:54.710 --> 01:16:58.170 from a whole bunch of the Republicans, the moment that they saw that, 01:16:58.310 --> 01:17:00.650 it was like, oh my God, what the fuck? 01:17:00.650 --> 01:17:05.630 Well, and that goes to the immediate Fox News reaction, 01:17:05.970 --> 01:17:13.710 which was if you see clips of the various people on Fox News reacting within 01:17:13.710 --> 01:17:17.490 the first hour after the debate, because they got their act together after that. 01:17:17.590 --> 01:17:21.130 But within the first hour, there's quote after quote of people just going like, 01:17:21.850 --> 01:17:25.490 Well, he clearly screwed up. This was not a good night for Donald Trump. 01:17:25.790 --> 01:17:28.710 This was a train wreck, blah, blah, blah. 01:17:29.110 --> 01:17:32.550 You know, very sad looking people on Fox. 01:17:33.490 --> 01:17:37.530 They did seemingly get their act together in later days. 01:17:37.750 --> 01:17:44.170 And so then they sort of got their stories straight where, you know, this was rigged. 01:17:44.210 --> 01:17:46.330 This was a three against one thing. 01:17:47.030 --> 01:17:53.730 Right. Fed Kamala, the questions, you know. This was a biased moderator, blah, blah, blah. 01:17:53.810 --> 01:17:56.350 Kamala, here's a- And given all that, Trump did great. 01:17:58.090 --> 01:18:03.350 Listen, there is something to be said for somebody like Kamala. 01:18:03.350 --> 01:18:06.190 Oh, and they only fact-checked Donald Trump. They did not fact-check. 01:18:06.270 --> 01:18:10.410 Yeah, well, because Kamala- Because only one of them was lying. 01:18:10.910 --> 01:18:13.730 Well, it was a prosecutor. 01:18:14.070 --> 01:18:14.650 Yes. 01:18:14.650 --> 01:18:18.350 And, you know, when you are in that line of work, 01:18:18.570 --> 01:18:27.570 this kind of stuff comes off naturally to do, you know, you do the same when 01:18:27.570 --> 01:18:31.630 you're doing a cross-examination, when you're preparing for a trial. 01:18:31.630 --> 01:18:35.070 And I've done it more from the perspective of being the person that's going 01:18:35.070 --> 01:18:38.150 to be in the witness stand, but not from from the attorney doing it himself 01:18:38.150 --> 01:18:39.050 because I'm not an attorney. 01:18:39.110 --> 01:18:42.810 But I know the kind of preparation and how they go and how they practice and 01:18:42.810 --> 01:18:46.370 how they, you know, what the questions are not and how to. 01:18:46.730 --> 01:18:52.710 I mean, you've been you've been training this your whole life as to how to do this discussion. 01:18:53.110 --> 01:18:58.030 And it's like a little bit like, you know, we make fun of our little like podcast 01:18:58.030 --> 01:19:02.370 over here. But I remember like a couple of years ago that I got interviewed 01:19:02.370 --> 01:19:08.070 by some TV stations in Mexico and radio for some stuff related to our company. 01:19:08.190 --> 01:19:11.510 OK, and the guys that were doing the radio broadcast, they were like, 01:19:11.530 --> 01:19:13.310 shit, you're like a fucking natural on the radio. 01:19:13.370 --> 01:19:17.130 What the hell? I'm like, well, you know, doing this, believe it or not, 01:19:17.350 --> 01:19:21.430 helps you prepare for that kind of like a scenario where you get the questions, 01:19:21.610 --> 01:19:24.430 you know, respond properly. 01:19:24.430 --> 01:19:27.550 properly, you know, know when you need to break that kind of stuff, 01:19:27.710 --> 01:19:31.630 even though we ramble on for hours in here, but it does, it does give you that prep. 01:19:31.710 --> 01:19:34.450 And so look, she, she's a natural at this Trump. 01:19:34.570 --> 01:19:39.850 You know, she is great at it. We've seen it before and other debate performances by her. Okay. 01:19:39.930 --> 01:19:46.650 And by the way, this is important. This is an area where he actually prides himself on his skills. 01:19:46.950 --> 01:19:53.530 This is his ability to be a television entertainer. This is, and she smoked him. 01:19:54.310 --> 01:19:56.050 Smoked him. Just smoked him. 01:19:56.070 --> 01:20:00.150 So this is another one of these narcissistic injuries, which, 01:20:00.250 --> 01:20:04.570 by the way, just to back up a little bit, she took control from the very first 01:20:04.570 --> 01:20:07.650 seconds when she went over and shook his hand. 01:20:08.240 --> 01:20:11.980 She went over, she went over, she went over to, and by the way, 01:20:11.980 --> 01:20:14.820 when they, when he debated Biden, they never shook hands. 01:20:15.040 --> 01:20:19.760 That is such a power move. Let me tell you something. I've done that move to some people. Okay. 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:24.440 Where I know that we're adversarial, like in a, in a litigation or something 01:20:24.440 --> 01:20:30.240 like that, where I've gone and like gone to shake their hands and it throws them off completely. 01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.660 Yeah. They're like, what the fuck? You just came over and shook my hand. 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.260 And he was clearly thrown off. Like, oh yeah. 01:20:37.260 --> 01:20:38.520 Yeah, he was thrown off. 01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:43.800 First of all, she said her name aloud to sort of emphasize, this is how you pronounce it, dumbass. 01:20:44.100 --> 01:20:49.120 Because he gets it wrong all the time and gets it wrong on purpose, by the way. 01:20:49.160 --> 01:20:53.220 Like, we screw it up, but we want to get it right. 01:20:53.220 --> 01:20:55.080 Well, we're not very good. 01:20:55.800 --> 01:21:00.260 But he gets it wrong on purpose, like as a way to try to needle her. 01:21:00.540 --> 01:21:06.120 And she says her name, shakes his hand. And he tries to do the move where he 01:21:06.120 --> 01:21:08.220 grabs the other hand and she does not allow that. 01:21:09.120 --> 01:21:10.160 No, don't do that. 01:21:10.240 --> 01:21:16.920 So she took control of the scenario from that instant and never let go. 01:21:17.040 --> 01:21:22.000 I will say the first couple of questions, she was a little unsteady. 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.480 There are a couple of places where I was like, she had a missed opportunity. 01:21:24.660 --> 01:21:27.920 Like there was an obvious rebuttal that he was going to say, 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:29.400 and she should have anticipated it. 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.940 But like, that was the first couple of questions. 01:21:32.060 --> 01:21:32.980 That was just a little bit. 01:21:32.980 --> 01:21:37.000 Then she hit her stride and like never looked back. 01:21:37.140 --> 01:21:41.940 Like, you know, and like completely owned him. 01:21:42.040 --> 01:21:47.300 Like, oh, was Michael, Michael Steele on MSNBC. Have you heard what he said? 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:48.840 No. What did he say? 01:21:48.940 --> 01:21:54.480 His comment, like he was asked for his opinion of the debate on air, 01:21:54.620 --> 01:21:56.520 like a little bit after the debate ended. 01:21:56.580 --> 01:21:59.500 And by the way, for those of you, he was the head of the RNC for a while. 01:21:59.500 --> 01:22:04.060 Yeah, he was the head of the RNC for a while, and now he's a commentator on MSNBC. 01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:07.820 He's one of their token Republicans. 01:22:08.060 --> 01:22:08.500 Republicans. 01:22:08.700 --> 01:22:14.700 He is one that says, like some of them, like Nicole Wallace and folks like that, 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.880 say they are ex-Republicans. They are no longer Republicans. They have quit. 01:22:17.940 --> 01:22:18.080 Okay. 01:22:18.400 --> 01:22:22.000 Michael Steele actually says he's still a Republican, and he still holds out 01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.840 hope to someday reforming the party and bringing it back from where it was, 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:28.080 but he's very anti-Trump. 01:22:28.480 --> 01:22:33.820 Okay. Anyway, his commentary was, she spanked that ass. 01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:42.340 That was it. Obviously, he said more after that, but that was his initial comment. 01:22:43.380 --> 01:22:50.280 Because it really was, you could tell just looking at his face during the thing, he knew it too. 01:22:51.200 --> 01:22:57.000 He knew he was getting crushed in this thing, you know, and, and like. 01:22:57.040 --> 01:23:00.520 But he, and, and he tried as usual, which is the double and triple down. 01:23:01.080 --> 01:23:05.460 And it just, it was like, I mean, all he did was just bury himself deeper. 01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:10.780 Right now he did have one thing I've seen people point out that are defending 01:23:10.780 --> 01:23:13.100 him is like, well, he, he won. 01:23:13.100 --> 01:23:16.340 because he had the best closing statement ever because he brought up something 01:23:16.340 --> 01:23:21.460 that she can't deny, which was like, well, if you have all these good ideas, 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.300 why haven't you done them in the last three years? 01:23:24.980 --> 01:23:27.500 She's not the president of the United States? 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:35.200 Well, A, but also this is like that whole response, which I've heard a lot of 01:23:35.200 --> 01:23:39.260 people on the right harping on and saying how killer a move that is. 01:23:39.260 --> 01:23:45.240 one of the reasons it possibly has some effectiveness is just the large percentage 01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:49.780 of people who have no idea how government works right because on the one hand 01:23:49.780 --> 01:23:52.660 a yes you're right she's the vice president. 01:23:52.660 --> 01:23:54.440 Of the united states but i think it's. 01:23:54.440 --> 01:23:55.040 One thing that. 01:23:55.040 --> 01:24:00.120 Kamala said kamala said when when she was debating was that basically spent 01:24:00.120 --> 01:24:03.180 the last three years basically cleaning up the shit that you left behind. 01:24:03.180 --> 01:24:06.960 Yes there's no but but it is also Also, just the general like, 01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:11.140 hey, our system of government is set up with checks and balances. 01:24:11.320 --> 01:24:14.160 Right. The executive can't just do whatever the hell they want. 01:24:14.480 --> 01:24:19.360 You have to have, until they get rid of the filibuster, you have to have a super 01:24:19.360 --> 01:24:22.340 majority in the Senate. You also have to have a majority in the House. 01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:24.720 They haven't had that. You know, the bottom line is. 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.980 Why should she execute any of this? Listen, Mr. 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:31.320 Concepts of a plan. 01:24:34.700 --> 01:24:37.660 Stop it. by this bozo who goes and 01:24:37.660 --> 01:24:40.400 talks about how still to this day 01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:43.240 wants to repeal the affordable care act went and 01:24:43.240 --> 01:24:45.900 tried failed and right now when they ask them 01:24:45.900 --> 01:24:49.960 well what's your fucking plan well i have the concepts of a plan right like 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:55.400 fuck you i mean you never had a plan you haven't had a plan and now you're you're 01:24:55.400 --> 01:24:59.820 just blustering of the fucking plan yeah listen well and that's another one 01:24:59.820 --> 01:25:05.360 eight years later he still doesn't have a fucking plan infrastructure week sam Well. 01:25:05.480 --> 01:25:09.180 And on the healthcare one specifically, that's one where they did try, 01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:13.260 right? Like, they could not come up with an alternative plan. 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:18.320 The best they came up with was just getting rid of it. 01:25:18.740 --> 01:25:22.380 Repeal and we'll figure it out later. We don't have a plan for the replace, 01:25:22.540 --> 01:25:23.680 but let's at least repeal. 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:24.420 Let's just repeal it. 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.520 And that was stopped by John McCain. That's it. 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:30.760 Otherwise, they would have done that without a replacement because 01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:34.460 they could not agree on a replacement because fundamentally they don't actually 01:25:34.460 --> 01:25:38.240 believe in a replacement they don't believe government should be involved in 01:25:38.240 --> 01:25:43.240 that at all right and that and that's the problem and that's why you get people 01:25:43.240 --> 01:25:48.180 holding up signs of like keep your government hands off my medicare you know, 01:25:49.420 --> 01:25:50.580 And stuff like that. 01:25:50.860 --> 01:25:53.720 Why don't we, so why don't we start by, you know, repealing Medicare? 01:25:53.900 --> 01:25:55.600 Oh, wait, keep your eye on that stuff. 01:25:56.220 --> 01:25:58.960 I'm just, I fucking, you know. Anyway. 01:26:01.140 --> 01:26:05.100 Look, but could I make a, since you mentioned John McCain, can I make a specific mention? 01:26:05.200 --> 01:26:06.900 Because we had this week, like, 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:10.700 Dick Cheney saying that he's going to vote for Harris, okay, as well. 01:26:11.180 --> 01:26:14.740 And a lot of people were like, well, fuck him anyway. 01:26:14.740 --> 01:26:17.520 away look i i i no 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.600 i'm not gonna say that because what i will say is that 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:24.120 because they're they're he's the same as trump no i'm 01:26:24.120 --> 01:26:27.820 sorry they're not there's a difference between i think that w and and cheney 01:26:27.820 --> 01:26:34.100 as misguided and as wrong in how they were trying to do things i think they 01:26:34.100 --> 01:26:38.780 they thought in their head that that was what was in the best interest of the 01:26:38.780 --> 01:26:42.920 country i think that for the most part, they weren't doing it for themselves. 01:26:43.340 --> 01:26:46.920 Right. Whereas Trump is somebody that's just doing everything for himself. 01:26:47.060 --> 01:26:51.540 And that's the difference between like McCain, 01:26:51.900 --> 01:26:58.180 Romney, Cheney and W that as much as I disagree with what they want to do, 01:26:58.240 --> 01:27:03.940 they're not they I think that they believe that they're doing it for the better of the country, 01:27:04.060 --> 01:27:06.960 even if what they're doing is completely wrong. 01:27:07.480 --> 01:27:11.880 And I think that that brings a different mentality to how you approach things. 01:27:12.040 --> 01:27:14.920 And that's the reason why I think Cheney went and just flat out said, 01:27:15.020 --> 01:27:18.940 look, I don't give a shit. I don't agree with anything that she's doing. 01:27:18.980 --> 01:27:23.820 But I know that this other guy is just doing everything for himself. 01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:28.080 And this other person has interest in protecting the Republic, period. That's it. 01:27:28.480 --> 01:27:31.280 Anything else about that we can disagree on. 01:27:32.190 --> 01:27:38.470 Yeah, so Harris has been saying in her speeches lately that the list of former 01:27:38.470 --> 01:27:44.650 Republican administration officials going back is up in the 200-something range 01:27:44.650 --> 01:27:47.310 at this point who have endorsed her publicly. 01:27:48.230 --> 01:27:53.590 Even Alberto Gonzalez, for God's sake, just endorsed Kamala for God's sakes. 01:27:54.330 --> 01:27:55.370 Holy shit. 01:27:55.430 --> 01:27:56.790 I was like, what the fuck? Really? 01:27:56.890 --> 01:28:00.390 And this is just the ones who will explicitly say they will vote for her. 01:28:00.390 --> 01:28:04.370 However, there are others who will say they won't vote for Trump, 01:28:04.430 --> 01:28:07.250 but are doing some write-in crap or whatever. 01:28:08.270 --> 01:28:13.250 Pence has said he's not going to vote for Donald Trump, but he's going to write in his wife. 01:28:13.510 --> 01:28:16.370 I think Romney has said the same kind of thing. 01:28:16.930 --> 01:28:22.430 W famously is not saying anything. He put out a statement saying he's not going to vote for Trump. 01:28:22.430 --> 01:28:25.770 But what I will say is that W has been consistent. He hasn't wanted to mention 01:28:25.770 --> 01:28:29.650 one talk about one damn thing about politics ever since he left office. 01:28:29.810 --> 01:28:33.210 And you know what? He has stuck to it and he's stuck to it now. 01:28:33.650 --> 01:28:37.570 And I'm like, I'm not going to give him shit about it because he's been consistent 01:28:37.570 --> 01:28:40.350 on it. He's just, you know what? Not my, not my place. 01:28:41.450 --> 01:28:45.810 Nah, I don't know. I feel like I can still give a little shit, but you know, whatever. 01:28:45.990 --> 01:28:48.590 Well, you can give a little, I mean, you can give him a little shit, 01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:51.290 but I also understand where he's coming from as well. Well, I, 01:28:51.290 --> 01:28:55.590 I just, I just doesn't eat just as he wants to avoid it and paintings. 01:28:55.590 --> 01:28:57.410 And like be left alone. 01:28:58.430 --> 01:29:02.210 No, he's also, you know, to give him credit, he's been also trying to help a 01:29:02.210 --> 01:29:04.810 lot of one bit warriors like nonstop. 01:29:05.190 --> 01:29:07.870 That's part of the stuff that he's doing with the paintings. 01:29:07.910 --> 01:29:11.230 So I don't know if that's just guilt in him or something or whatever. 01:29:11.350 --> 01:29:12.690 But that's, that's part of it. 01:29:13.010 --> 01:29:16.430 But yeah, I think it is a big part of it, but Hey, it's the look. 01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:21.380 Look, I disagree with the whole thing. I go back to what I said about Cheney. 01:29:21.460 --> 01:29:23.280 You know what? He was wrong. 01:29:23.660 --> 01:29:27.000 He did a whole bunch of shit that hurt the country. But at the same time, 01:29:27.140 --> 01:29:28.520 I don't think that was his intention. 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.800 Unfortunately, but he really fucked up. 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:33.400 Right. 01:29:34.400 --> 01:29:34.800 Okay. 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:40.500 So enough about the debate itself. Let's hit some of the sidelines. 01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.220 We mentioned the dogs and cats, but I want to get into it a little bit further. 01:29:44.220 --> 01:29:47.100 because on the one hand it's been 01:29:47.100 --> 01:29:49.940 like everybody's making fun of him over the dogs 01:29:49.940 --> 01:29:53.080 and cats and it's funny and it's a joke and 01:29:53.080 --> 01:29:55.920 they're memes like i played the audio of that song 01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:02.100 but there are like thousands of videos on so many versions of of you know the 01:30:02.100 --> 01:30:09.060 of you know people dancing to it people showing that without without the music 01:30:09.060 --> 01:30:14.220 showing their dog or cat's reaction to hearing Donald Trump say that there's, 01:30:14.220 --> 01:30:18.920 you know, there's all kinds of really funny memes and it's like a joke and people 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:20.300 are clearly making fun of him. 01:30:20.340 --> 01:30:23.680 But at the same time, people have pointed out like, 01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:33.700 this is very intentionally just trying to rile up people's fear of immigrants by hitting a, 01:30:33.780 --> 01:30:38.660 you know, people have like likened this to the blood libel against Jews. 01:30:38.820 --> 01:30:40.620 It's basically just saying. 01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:41.820 Hey, it's a similar lines. Yeah. 01:30:41.900 --> 01:30:46.960 It's, it's these folks. You should be scared of them because they're after your children. 01:30:47.060 --> 01:30:50.160 They're after your kids. They're whatever they're, they're evil. 01:30:50.220 --> 01:30:52.820 They're alien, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now. 01:30:55.340 --> 01:30:58.760 And that even by making fun of it, 01:30:59.550 --> 01:31:03.370 You are putting the thought out there in front of people. 01:31:03.590 --> 01:31:08.690 And there have been in Springfield, Ohio, where this was, there have been bomb 01:31:08.690 --> 01:31:10.590 threats happening. They've had to close schools. 01:31:10.710 --> 01:31:14.350 There's been threatened violence against the Haitian community there. 01:31:14.830 --> 01:31:24.750 And that you have to be really careful about this because you could unintentionally 01:31:24.750 --> 01:31:26.770 amplify what they're doing. 01:31:26.770 --> 01:31:32.850 And I've heard someone say that they have continued to double down on this after the debate. 01:31:33.150 --> 01:31:38.470 And it is specifically because the Trump campaign feels, and we'll argue in 01:31:38.470 --> 01:31:43.210 a second about whether this is right or not, but the Trump campaign feels that 01:31:43.210 --> 01:31:46.130 it doesn't, A, it doesn't matter if it's true. 01:31:46.530 --> 01:31:51.050 B, it doesn't matter if people are making fun of it. because in the end, 01:31:51.050 --> 01:31:56.590 it means everybody's talking about immigration, even when people are refuting 01:31:56.590 --> 01:32:00.530 it and saying there are no immigrants out there eating dogs or cats. 01:32:00.910 --> 01:32:05.030 It is still pushing the issue and getting it into forefront. 01:32:05.170 --> 01:32:08.810 And it's like an issue they feel like they're strong on and it'll help them. 01:32:08.930 --> 01:32:10.110 That's what they bullshit. 01:32:10.630 --> 01:32:15.250 Look, I think here, here, the reason why I think that argument is bullshit is 01:32:15.250 --> 01:32:19.010 because when you want to make these arguments, like when, when Steve the man 01:32:19.010 --> 01:32:20.530 is talking about, you know, flooding it. 01:32:20.550 --> 01:32:23.830 You want to make it that it's somewhat credible and people take it seriously 01:32:23.830 --> 01:32:24.910 and discuss it seriously. 01:32:25.250 --> 01:32:29.710 When you make it so preposterous that people are just ridiculing it nonstop, 01:32:29.890 --> 01:32:32.070 okay, it has the opposite effect. 01:32:32.230 --> 01:32:36.250 All it does is like it riles up, yeah, the 26% of people that said it's true. 01:32:36.590 --> 01:32:40.310 But the reality is that you're not doing what you were trying to do. 01:32:40.390 --> 01:32:45.690 When you say these things, they need to sound credible and not, 01:32:45.790 --> 01:32:50.110 you know, that the primary reaction is laughter. 01:32:50.470 --> 01:32:54.350 You need to do it that it's subtle. You need to say, well, you know, 01:32:54.370 --> 01:32:56.630 they've been going in there like, because J.D. 01:32:56.650 --> 01:32:59.670 Vance was saying this before about Springfield. Well, there's... 01:33:00.290 --> 01:33:06.270 Surges in crimes and HIV and all of this other stuff and whatever stuff that, 01:33:06.270 --> 01:33:09.570 you know, sounds like he's informed that he pulled up the information. 01:33:09.650 --> 01:33:12.150 But when you look at all the data, it's all complete horseshit. 01:33:12.330 --> 01:33:15.910 But it sounds credible when you take it to the extreme of doing saying something 01:33:15.910 --> 01:33:16.690 that is just preposterous. 01:33:17.310 --> 01:33:22.470 It makes it that it that it bounces back. Now, the reason why they're doing 01:33:22.470 --> 01:33:24.190 this thing with the bomb threats and whatever, 01:33:24.410 --> 01:33:29.410 I think is more related to the fact that, you know, when he got fact checked 01:33:29.410 --> 01:33:34.030 on it, that it cited like public officials that said that it's bullshit. 01:33:34.130 --> 01:33:37.350 And I think that's why they're retaliating against, you know. 01:33:38.110 --> 01:33:39.530 Against those public officials in schools. 01:33:39.710 --> 01:33:44.430 But I really don't think it has anything to do with the people making fun of it afterwards. 01:33:44.590 --> 01:33:48.590 It has to do with the fact that all these MAGA idiots, every time that they 01:33:48.590 --> 01:33:52.490 latch onto something like this and they hear that public officials did, 01:33:52.550 --> 01:33:55.030 this is like the same thing with the lie about the elections, 01:33:55.090 --> 01:33:57.630 why they've been threatening election officials left and right. 01:33:57.710 --> 01:34:00.630 And why, for example, over here, My wife was telling me that Palm Beach County 01:34:00.630 --> 01:34:05.050 is struggling, struggling really hard to recruit people to volunteer for, 01:34:05.130 --> 01:34:10.230 well, not volunteer, because it's a paid job to work the damn election this cycle. 01:34:10.370 --> 01:34:12.590 Okay? They are struggling really bad. 01:34:12.970 --> 01:34:17.090 And so because, and they have heard about all these threats and all this shit, 01:34:17.150 --> 01:34:19.970 and that's why people are afraid to do it. 01:34:20.050 --> 01:34:27.550 And so I think that that's what it's got, you know, the making fun of it has nothing to do with it. 01:34:27.550 --> 01:34:32.850 It has to do with what he said, how he doubled down on it, and how all of a 01:34:32.850 --> 01:34:36.350 sudden, all of MAGA is offended that they got fact-checked on it by public officials, 01:34:36.490 --> 01:34:37.990 which they want to go back after. 01:34:38.530 --> 01:34:46.310 So let me hit a little bit about the nugget of truth, the nugget of truth that 01:34:46.310 --> 01:34:49.210 has been distorted to cause all this. 01:34:49.210 --> 01:34:53.410 So apparently, and it took a couple days for people to sort of suss this stuff 01:34:53.410 --> 01:34:56.890 out, there was an incident in Ohio. 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.020 like 150 miles away from Springfield. So not, not even in the town. 01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:12.220 There was one single incident where a mentally ill woman did attack a cat and 01:35:12.220 --> 01:35:16.980 did like, I did at least bite the cat. 01:35:17.080 --> 01:35:20.380 I'm not sure if they ate the whole cat, but they did bite a cat. 01:35:20.780 --> 01:35:26.200 There's video of it as police were responding to try to get this woman under control. hole. 01:35:26.460 --> 01:35:33.120 So she was, she did, she did like do something bad to this cat. 01:35:33.320 --> 01:35:36.520 There are pictures of her with like fur on her mouth or whatever, 01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:41.580 you know, and the cat was at least injured. If not killed, I forget that level of detail. 01:35:42.420 --> 01:35:46.040 It was hundreds of miles, 150 or so miles away from Springfield. 01:35:46.380 --> 01:35:47.980 She was an American citizen. 01:35:48.440 --> 01:35:51.400 So not, not, she was not Asian at all. 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:57.960 So, listen, Sam, come on, nugget of truth. That goes even beyond the streets. 01:35:58.180 --> 01:36:02.220 You know how many incidents of animal cruelty happen in the United States? 01:36:02.220 --> 01:36:03.280 Every day, every day. 01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:07.220 Every fucking day. You might as well just fucking look through a list of animal 01:36:07.220 --> 01:36:10.940 cruelty incidents and just randomly pick one to do the story. 01:36:11.160 --> 01:36:11.960 Well, let me continue. 01:36:12.100 --> 01:36:12.360 Come on. 01:36:12.580 --> 01:36:18.180 Let me continue. The other thing is there has been a significant wave of Haitian 01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:22.200 immigrants into Springfield, Ohio. Now, here's the thing. 01:36:22.970 --> 01:36:28.670 they were invited in. This was part of the, what is it, temporary protective 01:36:28.670 --> 01:36:30.510 status for Haitian refugees. 01:36:30.930 --> 01:36:33.110 There's a refugee resettlement program. 01:36:33.590 --> 01:36:39.150 Springfield, Ohio had been struggling because of loss of population and businesses 01:36:39.150 --> 01:36:42.010 shutting down, leaving, all this kind of stuff. 01:36:42.010 --> 01:36:42.770 A shortage of labor. 01:36:43.130 --> 01:36:47.910 So Springfield raised their hand and said, can we have some people, please? 01:36:47.910 --> 01:36:49.750 And they welcome. 01:36:49.750 --> 01:36:57.290 Them with open arms they are they are legal immigrants not illegal immigrants they are fully. 01:36:57.290 --> 01:36:59.350 They've got tps they've. 01:36:59.350 --> 01:37:04.870 Got all their papers in order they are working legally that i've heard interviews 01:37:04.870 --> 01:37:10.810 with people at various companies in town saying i love the haitian immigrants they. 01:37:10.810 --> 01:37:13.970 Are they are the hardest fucking working 01:37:13.970 --> 01:37:17.590 people look i i got you know uh so 01:37:17.590 --> 01:37:21.450 my my sons like therapists like 01:37:21.450 --> 01:37:27.110 many of them have been of haitian descent my had an employee that worked in 01:37:27.110 --> 01:37:30.930 the community over here who's our maintenance employee also haitian descent 01:37:30.930 --> 01:37:36.270 had i mean i don't know so many people look they're wonderful hard working people 01:37:36.270 --> 01:37:39.070 and by By the way, in Haiti, they don't eat cats and dogs. 01:37:40.610 --> 01:37:44.510 Yeah, it's not a thing. And one of our listeners, by the way, 01:37:44.590 --> 01:37:48.330 Richard, you know, who is one of our listeners, he's a doctor, 01:37:48.410 --> 01:37:49.670 lives in Columbus, Ohio. 01:37:49.870 --> 01:37:54.910 He's also Haitian. OK, by the way. And so I know I haven't I know he said that 01:37:54.910 --> 01:37:57.430 this week he had covid, so I hope he's feeling better. 01:37:57.510 --> 01:38:01.330 And I know he does listen to the podcast. I haven't heard him specifically address 01:38:01.330 --> 01:38:05.870 this and how fucking like pissed off he must be about this whole fucking thing 01:38:05.870 --> 01:38:07.470 because he does live in the state of Ohio. 01:38:07.830 --> 01:38:14.330 But it's just it's just the most preposterous fucking bullshit fucking story ever, man. 01:38:14.330 --> 01:38:18.890 And in my experience of, you know, like, listen, it's not just the Haitian immigrants, 01:38:19.590 --> 01:38:25.570 every fucking immigrant group that we get like right now are some of the hardest 01:38:25.570 --> 01:38:30.270 fucking working people you will ever meet in your damn life. 01:38:30.550 --> 01:38:34.310 This is one of the things that we've mentioned when talking about immigration in the past. 01:38:34.310 --> 01:38:40.270 Like if you are a person who is willing to rip up your entire life and move 01:38:40.270 --> 01:38:45.730 halfway around the world, you are an extremely motivated person. 01:38:46.220 --> 01:38:46.860 Absolutely. 01:38:46.860 --> 01:38:52.860 That is willing to make sacrifices and put in work and blah, blah, blah. 01:38:53.200 --> 01:38:57.740 These are exactly the kind of people you want. And the employers who I heard 01:38:57.740 --> 01:39:01.500 interviewed were exactly along those lines. They're like, they're good workers. 01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.360 They come on time. They're good family people. 01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:10.900 They do this. And the one guy I heard was like, I wish my American employees were like this. 01:39:10.900 --> 01:39:11.760 Work that hard. 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:16.200 And I would love to have, you know, a lot more of these guys. 01:39:16.360 --> 01:39:18.580 They're great. And, you know, so. 01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:23.060 But the whole thing that this asshole J.D. Vance said, well, 01:39:23.160 --> 01:39:26.760 because the shooting up crimes and diseases and everything. 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:32.300 There is no fucking single stat that says that that's true. 01:39:32.620 --> 01:39:35.400 It's what pisses. I mean, it's this whole flood the shit thing. 01:39:35.500 --> 01:39:41.260 He is just completely grossly lying about every damn thing about it. Everything. 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:48.020 The crime, the things, the dog, everything is a fucking just racist trope. 01:39:48.120 --> 01:39:52.940 Well, and the one thing that is happening is, especially now that they've been 01:39:52.940 --> 01:39:56.080 working this up, it is increasing tensions. 01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:01.660 You know, I've heard interviews with like, you know, Haitian people in that 01:40:01.660 --> 01:40:04.860 town who are afraid to send their kids to school, even if they weren't closed 01:40:04.860 --> 01:40:08.680 because of the bomb threats, because they're getting harassed on the street. eat now. 01:40:08.900 --> 01:40:13.200 There are people who are, those same people who are going to work and being 01:40:13.200 --> 01:40:16.880 appreciated at work are now getting, you know, asked by their coworkers, 01:40:17.280 --> 01:40:18.700 are you eating cats and dogs? 01:40:19.160 --> 01:40:26.540 What's going on? You know? And, and, and so like those tensions are being like 01:40:26.540 --> 01:40:32.140 fanned by this in a place where it wasn't so much of a thing, 01:40:32.280 --> 01:40:36.180 but now it kind of is because they're doing this stuff. 01:40:36.340 --> 01:40:42.720 And it's because the whole thing is about fear and generating that fear and 01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:44.460 getting people riled up. 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:50.560 I tend to think you are right in that when it transitions to outright mockery, 01:40:50.740 --> 01:40:52.860 this is backfiring on them. 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:54.160 Yes, 100%. 01:40:54.160 --> 01:40:57.820 I think their idea absolutely was just get people scared of immigrants. 01:40:58.060 --> 01:41:01.720 And the truth, the specific instance doesn't matter. 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:04.740 We're just going to and do all kinds of scary things. Like apparently what Trump 01:41:04.740 --> 01:41:08.820 was supposed to do about immigration is they'd coached him on a whole list of 01:41:08.820 --> 01:41:13.400 names of like women who had been sexually assaulted by immigrants, 01:41:13.580 --> 01:41:15.480 by illegal immigrants specifically. 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:19.220 And he was supposed to rattle off the names and say, why don't you care about 01:41:19.220 --> 01:41:21.820 this person and this person and this person? But he fucked it up. 01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:22.760 He couldn't even do that. 01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:28.460 And instead was talking about cats and dogs. But the thing is, even that other pets. 01:41:28.660 --> 01:41:29.840 By the way, yes. 01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:30.560 And other pets. 01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:32.580 Because he said other, they're eating the dog. 01:41:32.620 --> 01:41:33.540 Oh, and the geese. 01:41:33.580 --> 01:41:34.240 They're eating the pets. 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:38.180 The geese. Yeah, they're stealing the geese from the ponds and eating them as 01:41:38.180 --> 01:41:41.840 well. But here's the, even if he had said. 01:41:42.020 --> 01:41:43.860 People, well, first of all, people don't, 01:41:45.240 --> 01:41:48.240 geese as pets. It's not common. Okay, I'm sure some people have. 01:41:48.240 --> 01:41:50.680 Well, no, he was just talking about the geese at the parks and stuff like that. 01:41:51.220 --> 01:41:56.520 Well, okay. Well, but, I mean, people cook geese, right? It's a bird. 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.820 Right? It's not a usual. It's not a chicken. 01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:01.520 But, I mean, I'm sure that. 01:42:02.660 --> 01:42:09.380 Like, geese have been eaten in the past. But it is not considered a thing to do. Not usually. 01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:14.820 To go to your local park, grab a goose, kill it, and take it home and eat it. 01:42:15.240 --> 01:42:16.600 I mean, unless you're RFK Jr. 01:42:17.220 --> 01:42:21.440 Well, yes. If you're RFK Jr., then that's, you know, that's basically how you make dinner. 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:26.040 Right. But, you know, and look, even the thing, if he had brought up the women 01:42:26.040 --> 01:42:30.160 and blah, blah, that's another complete bullshit thing, because you can always 01:42:30.160 --> 01:42:35.940 pull anecdotes of anything because any population has bad folks. All of them. 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:37.680 Every single one. Yeah. 01:42:37.780 --> 01:42:41.260 And even the things we were saying before, it's also somewhat like, 01:42:41.260 --> 01:42:44.700 you know, wrong to say, oh, well, these people are all good workers. 01:42:44.700 --> 01:42:48.480 No, they're not all good workers that just like any population, 01:42:48.540 --> 01:42:50.040 they're good and bad and whatever. 01:42:50.380 --> 01:42:53.880 So we don't want to like stereotype on the good side either. 01:42:54.600 --> 01:43:00.140 But no, the thing is, yeah, you can always find those. But the actual rates of crime are down. 01:43:00.540 --> 01:43:01.960 But wait, to be fair. 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:06.080 And rates of crimes have a lower rate. 01:43:06.100 --> 01:43:09.060 Have way lower rates of crime. 01:43:09.120 --> 01:43:10.840 Yes, way, like, yes. 01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:12.600 Way lower, like way lower. 01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:19.760 Yeah, you can always find the bad example. But as a whole, an immigrant is less 01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.840 likely to commit a violent act than an American. 01:43:24.490 --> 01:43:28.370 Okay, enough about cats and dogs and the stuff related to it. 01:43:28.450 --> 01:43:32.670 I don't want to let this go without talking about Laura Loomer as well. 01:43:33.350 --> 01:43:38.430 And part of what was said about the cats and dogs is this is because of her 01:43:38.430 --> 01:43:39.710 whispering in Trump's ear. 01:43:40.290 --> 01:43:46.150 Now, I don't entirely buy that excuse because J.D. Vance has been pushing this 01:43:46.150 --> 01:43:47.650 for the last week as well before. 01:43:47.650 --> 01:43:49.510 And he'd been pushing the cats and dogs. 01:43:49.550 --> 01:43:50.770 Yes, he had. The breeze. 01:43:50.830 --> 01:43:51.330 Okay. Yeah. 01:43:51.370 --> 01:43:56.230 All right. Okay. But apparently like a lot of the people in Trump's circles 01:43:56.230 --> 01:44:02.590 are complaining that Laura Loomer has had too much access to Donald Trump and 01:44:02.590 --> 01:44:06.390 has been filling his head with nonsense, 01:44:07.830 --> 01:44:10.770 racist conspiracies, et cetera, et cetera. 01:44:11.030 --> 01:44:13.990 I thought there were other holes being filled, but that's my, 01:44:13.990 --> 01:44:17.810 that's my, that was my, my, my thought. 01:44:17.930 --> 01:44:19.830 I mean, there is a hole in his head as well. 01:44:19.910 --> 01:44:24.430 But you know, here's the thing. Like, so there seem to be two levels of complaints. 01:44:24.750 --> 01:44:29.130 There's the, there's the first level of complaint is simply like, 01:44:29.930 --> 01:44:32.230 Hey, she's a nut job extremist. 01:44:32.250 --> 01:44:34.730 She has too much interaction. 01:44:34.850 --> 01:44:41.030 I saw empty, but I saw, I saw MTG complain about that specifically. 01:44:41.430 --> 01:44:46.570 And I'm like, you're not Jewish space laser woman. Yes. What the fuck are you talking about? 01:44:46.750 --> 01:44:51.150 When MTG is calling you out for being too racist. 01:44:54.350 --> 01:45:02.070 I mean, exactly. What the fuck? What fucking, you know, level of hell have we descended to? 01:45:04.550 --> 01:45:11.070 Yes. Anyway, but of course the second level that started percolating almost 01:45:11.070 --> 01:45:13.890 instantly after that is people... 01:45:14.830 --> 01:45:20.550 With various levels of being explicit about it, implying that Donald is actually 01:45:20.550 --> 01:45:21.690 having an affair with her. 01:45:22.410 --> 01:45:28.590 Okay. And let me just say this. From having experience with meeting many people 01:45:28.590 --> 01:45:36.010 that have had affairs over their life, every fucking signal that he is sending is flashing red. 01:45:36.010 --> 01:45:40.370 I mean, if you'll look at the checklist of things that make you flash red, 01:45:40.450 --> 01:45:41.970 is there an affair going on? 01:45:42.290 --> 01:45:45.850 This dashboard is at full red alert. 01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:48.320 So you want to list some of those signs? 01:45:48.780 --> 01:45:55.580 Well, look, for example, the fact that all of a sudden he has been completely like at his side, 01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:59.860 that he has been grabbing her, that he's been very touchy feely with her in 01:45:59.860 --> 01:46:04.060 like ways that, you know, in public that that that usually you don't do that 01:46:04.060 --> 01:46:07.640 with somebody who is just a co-worker or something or whatnot or whatever. 01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:08.660 He saves that for his daughter. 01:46:08.660 --> 01:46:13.360 Her yeah well yeah that's that's another person sending her kisses talking about 01:46:13.360 --> 01:46:22.180 her lavishly and rabbit ravishingly around her the fact that melania is nowhere to be seen well. 01:46:22.180 --> 01:46:24.540 To be fair she hasn't been anywhere to be seen for years. 01:46:24.540 --> 01:46:29.680 Yeah yeah yeah but i but listen i i i do listen not even the debate sam look 01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:37.980 i do think that she obviously is gotten wind that he is doing shit on the side. 01:46:38.140 --> 01:46:42.260 And this is the kind of shit that normally spouses, when they are disgruntled 01:46:42.260 --> 01:46:47.520 and this guy is stupid, somebody else, they will go and say, you know, whatever. 01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:52.480 And so she knows that she needs some kind of payoff to get the fuck out of this marriage. 01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:56.040 What she's doing is right now, she's not going to file for a divorce right now 01:46:56.040 --> 01:46:59.880 before this, but you know what? She is just basically ghosting him right now. 01:46:59.960 --> 01:47:03.940 Well, to be clear as well. I mean, that's not like new for Donald Trump. 01:47:04.060 --> 01:47:08.140 I mean, we had this whole damn trial related to a story, Daniel. 01:47:08.260 --> 01:47:13.640 And, and, and of course it's like that his history is that he's done this many times before. 01:47:13.940 --> 01:47:18.940 So fucking fake to everybody in the circle that's been around. It's a fucking woman. 01:47:19.060 --> 01:47:23.060 To he he's, he's cheated on every wife he's ever had. 01:47:23.140 --> 01:47:26.280 He's cheated on every girlfriend he's ever had. You know, so this is, 01:47:26.300 --> 01:47:30.780 it's not an unusual pattern, so it would not be surprising in any way. 01:47:30.780 --> 01:47:33.600 but here's the thing I've seen like. 01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:40.560 Now is it listen is it ironclad that he's banging her no but is the preponderance of the evidence right, 01:47:41.070 --> 01:47:43.730 Leaning towards the fact that he's doing so? Yes. 01:47:44.110 --> 01:47:48.070 So here's the thing, like the levels of this at the moment, like this sort of, 01:47:48.070 --> 01:47:51.610 I hadn't heard very much about this before the debate. 01:47:52.090 --> 01:47:56.290 After the debate, the first thing I started hearing are a whole bunch of finger 01:47:56.290 --> 01:48:00.630 pointing about it was Laura Loomer's fault that he did badly at the debate. 01:48:00.970 --> 01:48:07.190 Right. And at first it was all just about because of the things she put in his head. 01:48:07.290 --> 01:48:15.950 Okay. But then I started hearing the implications of there was something else going on. 01:48:16.510 --> 01:48:21.070 You know, Drudge, who like I haven't thought about Matt Drudge in years, 01:48:21.250 --> 01:48:26.770 but like apparently the front of the Drudge report had some stuff about Loomer 01:48:26.770 --> 01:48:32.490 and a heavy implication without outright saying it, 01:48:32.490 --> 01:48:38.630 but clearly implying that something was going on there and talking about MTG being jealous. 01:48:39.370 --> 01:48:44.590 No, but, but wait, they're not talking about MTG jealous. Look at her tweets. 01:48:44.990 --> 01:48:48.510 They were full of raging jealousy. 01:48:50.190 --> 01:48:57.510 Well, you could interpret them as just being mad that he was screwing up like because of her. 01:48:57.770 --> 01:49:02.490 No. Or you could interpret it as jealousy over the influence, 01:49:02.730 --> 01:49:04.250 not jealousy over an affair. 01:49:05.010 --> 01:49:05.470 Look. 01:49:06.590 --> 01:49:10.030 Because, of course, Yvonne thinks that MTG also had an affair with him, 01:49:10.070 --> 01:49:11.990 by the way, as well as several other people. Yes. 01:49:12.210 --> 01:49:12.670 Yes. 01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:19.080 Well, OK, again, pattern of behavior, preponderance of evidence. 01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:20.200 Yeah. 01:49:20.280 --> 01:49:27.700 You know, the wife is gone. Well, it all adds up to that. 01:49:27.820 --> 01:49:31.680 Now, like I said, none of them are smoking guns. I don't have a fucking video. 01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:35.480 OK, but look, there is a clear pattern here. 01:49:35.480 --> 01:49:38.420 Here and you know and what's happening is that he. 01:49:38.420 --> 01:49:42.860 Has a predilection for younger women you know. 01:49:42.860 --> 01:49:46.900 Yeah like bill bill maher bill maher 01:49:46.900 --> 01:49:51.640 on his show is like she's his type you know and this is what i'm saying about 01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:56.600 percolating through the media environment like you got drudge and then you got 01:49:56.600 --> 01:50:00.660 all kinds of people talking about it on like tiktok and stuff you have bill 01:50:00.660 --> 01:50:04.020 maher explicitly saying it the on, 01:50:04.140 --> 01:50:09.920 on like, unlike MSNBC and CNN, the closest I've heard are people saying things 01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:15.280 like, you know, well, she's got a lot of influence on him and has had a lot of exposure. 01:50:15.860 --> 01:50:21.640 If that's all it is without saying anything more explicit, because like, 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:25.960 like if you're at, if you're at a major news organization, you're not going 01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:28.720 to go there unless you've got proof. 01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:29.600 Right. 01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:34.500 But like Like all of the people who are at places where they're just like us, 01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:42.480 like us, you know, we're willing to just spread the rumor, but you know, I have said here. 01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:47.460 Wait, here's what I've said. I have not said that I have definitive evidence 01:50:47.460 --> 01:50:50.800 that Laura Loomer is banging Donald. 01:50:51.300 --> 01:50:56.120 However, what I have said, and I will repeat again, is that the preponderance 01:50:56.120 --> 01:50:57.320 of everything Everything surrounding 01:50:57.320 --> 01:51:01.660 Donald and his track record indicates that that is highly likely. 01:51:01.820 --> 01:51:04.820 So, and, and, and here's the thing. 01:51:08.380 --> 01:51:13.520 like this, this is following whether it's true or not. 01:51:14.040 --> 01:51:18.260 This, like I could see it being true. It's very plausible that it's true. 01:51:18.340 --> 01:51:27.900 I could also see it being as somebody planting this idea and pushing it for their own purposes. 01:51:28.020 --> 01:51:31.280 Like honestly, the trajectory of this, including Laura herself, 01:51:31.440 --> 01:51:36.040 but all kinds of people might have incentive to do this. 01:51:36.040 --> 01:51:40.740 Because honestly, this is following the exact same kind of trajectory through 01:51:40.740 --> 01:51:49.260 social media as the J.D. Vance couch thing, you know, where someone said it. 01:51:49.260 --> 01:51:50.380 Well, that was more. 01:51:53.080 --> 01:51:54.840 I admit there have not. 01:51:54.860 --> 01:52:00.820 In the J.D. Vance case, it's not like we have some kind of documented track record of him. 01:52:00.820 --> 01:52:06.120 So, so far there are better memes about the couch than there are about Loomer. 01:52:06.500 --> 01:52:08.800 Yes. But like, give it a couple of days. 01:52:08.860 --> 01:52:09.640 Give it a couple of days. 01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:10.160 That may change. 01:52:10.340 --> 01:52:15.760 And the point of that is the, the JD Vance thing, like somebody just made that 01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:19.840 up, you know, and, and going back to what we were talking about, 01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:24.000 about flooding the zone with shit and being, and what can you trust? What can you not trust? 01:52:24.340 --> 01:52:27.940 Like there is a possibility that somebody 01:52:27.940 --> 01:52:30.580 just made this up and decided that we're going going to 01:52:30.580 --> 01:52:33.400 push this agenda now and we're going to push this 01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:36.780 story now here and here's the question about 01:52:36.780 --> 01:52:40.320 this too is well what's the ultimate what are 01:52:40.320 --> 01:52:46.820 you trying to get out of that because a like i've heard people say look assume 01:52:46.820 --> 01:52:50.360 it's true assume the story goes out there mega folks will actually just be like 01:52:50.360 --> 01:52:56.820 well shows he's a strong virile man virile man yeah he's in he's in his late 01:52:56.820 --> 01:52:59.980 70s and look, he's got this 31-year-old on his arm. 01:53:00.040 --> 01:53:02.160 It's good for him. Good for him. 01:53:02.240 --> 01:53:06.000 Listen, there is nothing, like I said, there is nothing that he can do to this. 01:53:06.380 --> 01:53:12.580 There is this strong sector that everything that he does, they will like, 01:53:12.660 --> 01:53:15.800 you know, sing the praises of. No matter what. 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:22.540 On the other hand, I could see like, this is the Stormy Daniels thing all over again. 01:53:22.580 --> 01:53:28.080 The reason he tried to shut that down was he was afraid It would lose him evangelicals, 01:53:28.080 --> 01:53:34.440 you know, who like him for other reasons, but we're never really happy about his social life. 01:53:34.480 --> 01:53:38.700 And oh, my God, look what he's doing with the porn star at the same time. 01:53:39.650 --> 01:53:42.810 If it gets some evangelicals to stay home because they're like, 01:53:42.830 --> 01:53:45.990 oh, he's cheating on his wife again, I can't support that. 01:53:46.070 --> 01:53:50.250 Even if most of them do, if a handful you were taught, we talked earlier about 01:53:50.250 --> 01:53:52.150 how close this damn race is. 01:53:52.530 --> 01:53:56.390 A few votes in a few critical states can make the difference. 01:53:57.030 --> 01:53:58.990 So, like, if you can peel off. 01:53:58.990 --> 01:54:02.710 I couldn't give. Listen, I couldn't give a fuck if he's fucking the entire fucking 01:54:02.710 --> 01:54:06.710 campaign staff. I don't fucking care. I don't fucking care. 01:54:07.230 --> 01:54:10.090 You know well i'm not i'm not saying i'm not saying 01:54:10.090 --> 01:54:13.210 it i'm not saying it but i'm not saying it because let me 01:54:13.210 --> 01:54:16.730 say let me say this some politicians if they 01:54:16.730 --> 01:54:19.470 were caught in something like this you could at least hang them 01:54:19.470 --> 01:54:22.370 for being hypocritical and saying like you're you're so 01:54:22.370 --> 01:54:25.090 sanctimonious but then you're doing this you can't do 01:54:25.090 --> 01:54:28.210 that for donald trump he's never hide he's never 01:54:28.210 --> 01:54:30.930 really hidden the fact that he's a playboy i mean yeah 01:54:30.930 --> 01:54:34.570 he tried to quiet down the stormy daniel such but like 01:54:34.570 --> 01:54:41.610 during the 80s and 90s mcdougall yes but during the 80s and 90s he was calling 01:54:41.610 --> 01:54:46.790 up the press with that fake identity to brag about his affairs to try to get 01:54:46.790 --> 01:54:50.670 them into the paper so like this is not something that like you know donald 01:54:50.670 --> 01:54:54.310 trump has never claimed to be like, 01:54:55.090 --> 01:54:59.310 he's never claimed to be anything else other than he is along these lines no. 01:54:59.310 --> 01:55:03.390 The one thing thing the only reason i you know i bring it up is well laura laura 01:55:03.390 --> 01:55:08.630 laura oh fuck this but whatever the fucking name is is it's a fucking racist 01:55:08.630 --> 01:55:11.230 psycho okay that's one thing oh. 01:55:11.230 --> 01:55:17.410 Yeah so that's that's who he's choosing to associate with mtg saying that that 01:55:17.410 --> 01:55:23.170 her comments were too racist was a direct response to a series of tweets she 01:55:23.170 --> 01:55:28.050 made with incredibly racist things about kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. 01:55:28.770 --> 01:55:35.770 And again, MTG is calling you out on that. That tells you something about just how racist she is. 01:55:36.010 --> 01:55:43.670 Like I said, you can fuck the whole campaign staff. 01:55:43.850 --> 01:55:47.490 I don't give a shit about it. I don't care. That's not my thing about it. 01:55:47.770 --> 01:55:51.430 But the thing is, again, it's like you said, 01:55:51.430 --> 01:55:54.730 the evangelical support all this shit you know 01:55:54.730 --> 01:55:57.630 these guys go and prop this guy up as a family 01:55:57.630 --> 01:56:00.430 man or whatever that is defender of the family you know 01:56:00.430 --> 01:56:03.870 make america great again and bring back family values fucking 01:56:03.870 --> 01:56:06.750 family values this son of a bitch will just fuck it you know 01:56:06.750 --> 01:56:09.530 he's claiming that family values is being with 01:56:09.530 --> 01:56:12.450 his wife and be with a family when he's just you know fucks 01:56:12.450 --> 01:56:15.990 whoever the hell he wants and then set goes out to people and says you know 01:56:15.990 --> 01:56:20.850 and then courts your support and I'm just like you know look you guys are hypocrites 01:56:20.850 --> 01:56:25.630 either you guys you know basically are okay with the fact that you know people 01:56:25.630 --> 01:56:28.170 have their choices in their relationships or whatever you don't tell anybody 01:56:28.170 --> 01:56:30.790 how to live their life yeah like I'm actually. 01:56:30.790 --> 01:56:33.890 Sure like from the very beginning you know, 01:56:35.010 --> 01:56:39.610 She, he and Melania probably, I mean, Melania knew what she was getting into 01:56:39.610 --> 01:56:42.530 too, but the arrangement probably was keep it quiet. 01:56:43.110 --> 01:56:43.630 Right. 01:56:43.770 --> 01:56:49.050 You know, so I can't imagine she's surprised by him having affairs, 01:56:49.230 --> 01:56:52.530 but she didn't want to get dragged through the mud about it. Right. 01:56:52.750 --> 01:56:57.910 And, and, and at this point, there are plenty of reports that like she actually hates him. 01:56:58.130 --> 01:57:01.990 And so she's just looking for the right payday at this point, I'm sure. 01:57:01.990 --> 01:57:06.230 But well, the only thing that I saw Melania do publicly recently was some kind 01:57:06.230 --> 01:57:11.190 of like, you know, video infomercial for her schlepping some. 01:57:11.250 --> 01:57:13.270 And she got paid a significant penny for that. 01:57:13.490 --> 01:57:17.730 Yeah. Some fucking like flogging some bullshit, whatever thing, 01:57:17.890 --> 01:57:20.190 you know, to make money. I think she was selling some. 01:57:20.370 --> 01:57:24.870 I don't know what the fuck. She was just some other grift, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. 01:57:25.090 --> 01:57:28.130 What's the specific grift? Not important. Some other fucking grift. 01:57:28.130 --> 01:57:32.170 And the handful and the handful of times she actually has showed up to campaign events, she was paid. 01:57:33.470 --> 01:57:37.410 Oh, that's right. The payments are on the FEC filings. Yes. 01:57:39.470 --> 01:57:46.650 This is so fucked up. You know, here's and I will say here is the contrast, right? 01:57:46.770 --> 01:57:50.890 What I understand is that Doug Emoff, when he got a divorce, 01:57:51.210 --> 01:57:53.770 I think that, you know, the one reason he was having an affair. 01:57:53.930 --> 01:57:55.510 He had an affair with like their nanny. 01:57:55.790 --> 01:58:00.570 Yeah. And he wound up getting a divorce. But, you know, at some point in their 01:58:00.570 --> 01:58:03.670 relationship, but this has been, you know, record, you know, 01:58:03.670 --> 01:58:08.410 history has showed this, that they, they got past that. They get along well. 01:58:09.130 --> 01:58:12.950 They're, you know, they, they care of their kids, you know, you know, 01:58:12.970 --> 01:58:16.550 he got divorced and there, there, there is something that there is a certain level of. 01:58:18.120 --> 01:58:21.860 They are still, they are still, they are still friends. 01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:28.140 The ex wife is doing campaign events for Kamala Harris. 01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:33.300 Right. Um, as I understand, they are friends to that, the current wife and the 01:58:33.300 --> 01:58:37.880 ex wife, they, they consider themselves to have a co-parenting relationship 01:58:37.880 --> 01:58:40.440 with all the kids and they get along well. 01:58:40.460 --> 01:58:43.360 And that just shows the, and that shows the respect that there is amongst those 01:58:43.360 --> 01:58:47.740 people that even though yeah you know he did something that you know you know 01:58:47.740 --> 01:58:53.660 his wife i'm sure felt betrayed by that that you know somehow they they got 01:58:53.660 --> 01:58:59.640 past that and that they have a decent sense of respect amongst them to to get 01:58:59.640 --> 01:59:02.400 along and that's fine i mean people know they talk about their blended. 01:59:02.400 --> 01:59:04.600 Family and that you know. 01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:08.800 And that's the thing i mean and that's just my contrast with this fucking clown 01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:11.780 who I go and I see, I mean, my God, 01:59:11.940 --> 01:59:17.260 there was, there was no more fucking, like, I'm going to say like stomach wrenching 01:59:17.260 --> 01:59:21.080 moment for me, seeing his entire family, like the one that attended the, 01:59:21.460 --> 01:59:24.040 all his family members that attended the fucking RNC. 01:59:24.200 --> 01:59:29.300 And he passed by and it was like, basically like a whole bunch of strangers just filed past them. 01:59:29.660 --> 01:59:30.120 Right. 01:59:30.380 --> 01:59:36.900 And, and I'm like, wow, that's the level of love and care that there is here. Basically zero. 01:59:37.660 --> 01:59:41.540 You're all just like useful props for me here. The ones that showed up because 01:59:41.540 --> 01:59:43.200 a few of them didn't even show up. 01:59:43.220 --> 01:59:46.280 Not his wife, not his daughter, Ivanka. 01:59:46.400 --> 01:59:48.660 She was like, get me the fuck out. I'm done. 01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:51.780 I don't want this shit anymore. I can't blame her. 01:59:52.260 --> 01:59:54.580 I mean, I would be done with it. 01:59:55.180 --> 02:00:04.100 So one person on TikTok was like, I wonder if the October surprise is going 02:00:04.100 --> 02:00:07.680 to be Laura Loomer announcing she's pregnant with Trump's baby. 02:00:08.340 --> 02:00:12.320 That would be, talk about an October surprise. Holy fucking hell. 02:00:13.700 --> 02:00:18.800 Yeah, I don't know. I kind of doubt that. But like, if it did happen. 02:00:19.020 --> 02:00:23.240 Doubt it. Doubt it? Why not? Look at Edwards, for God's sakes. 02:00:23.240 --> 02:00:31.120 The bigger, the bigger thing, the bigger October surprise would be if she aborts that baby. 02:00:33.300 --> 02:00:36.140 Shit. Now that would be an October surprise. 02:00:36.820 --> 02:00:44.880 Anyway. Yeah. Like, I kind of feel like chances are this, like, 02:00:44.900 --> 02:00:49.700 loomer thing will sort of blow over in the next few days. But you never know. 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:54.740 I actually disagree. agree i think that this thing's gonna snowball because 02:00:54.740 --> 02:01:00.380 oh my god she listen she's not backing down she's been taking it up notches 02:01:00.380 --> 02:01:07.260 i mean she went like fuck she called lindsey graham flat out you know said he's gay well. 02:01:07.260 --> 02:01:11.560 What it was lindsey graham came out with a big denunciation of what she was 02:01:11.560 --> 02:01:14.800 saying and blah blah blah and she said i believe. 02:01:14.800 --> 02:01:18.500 We all know that we we all know that you're the closet gay, something like that. 02:01:19.100 --> 02:01:23.040 No, her statement was something along the lines of, get over it, 02:01:23.060 --> 02:01:24.160 Lindsay, we all know you're gay. 02:01:24.620 --> 02:01:25.140 Right. 02:01:26.820 --> 02:01:28.780 Fuck. You know. 02:01:28.940 --> 02:01:33.760 I mean, I don't see, listen, her track record is not one of back and down. 02:01:34.440 --> 02:01:39.760 So, the thing is, you think that blow over my ass, she's a shit stormer. 02:01:40.140 --> 02:01:43.860 And she's gotten in there right now and has gotten attention. 02:01:44.360 --> 02:01:49.280 What she is going to do is stare to shit pot even more i'm telling you that 02:01:49.280 --> 02:01:53.500 right now no fucking way she's blowing over and just going and hiding not. 02:01:53.500 --> 02:01:54.400 Not not. 02:01:54.400 --> 02:01:58.140 No way i mean if she did it it'd be a first. 02:01:58.140 --> 02:02:01.420 I i guess i guess my question is 02:02:01.420 --> 02:02:08.600 whether the real media not tiktok and such has the appetite to actually go after 02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:15.260 a story about trump and boomer in in a way but on the other hand they don't 02:02:15.260 --> 02:02:18.220 really matter anymore more like the tick tock mattered more does that. 02:02:18.220 --> 02:02:23.040 Matter right yeah so what if they if the new york times doesn't expose a on 02:02:23.040 --> 02:02:25.360 laura loomer and anybody gonna give a shit about that no. 02:02:25.360 --> 02:02:30.480 No you're right it's it's it's the mocking on social media that will do it and 02:02:30.480 --> 02:02:34.860 but but again i don't even know like would the if would there be any effect 02:02:34.860 --> 02:02:40.260 whatsoever on the election i don't know because there's some people like like 02:02:40.260 --> 02:02:44.740 we said like well well listen here's the problem no no no but sam damn. 02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:47.680 But here's the one thing that she's doing, okay, which is a problem. 02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:50.840 Look, she's having them, like as happens with so many of these, 02:02:51.840 --> 02:02:57.960 you know, right wing groups, they're, they're, they're turning on each other at the wrong moment. 02:02:58.000 --> 02:02:58.300 Yes. 02:02:58.900 --> 02:03:01.520 They're not, they're not unifying. They're turning on each other. 02:03:01.640 --> 02:03:07.260 Well, and this is real. This was starting anyway, just because Trump was not 02:03:07.260 --> 02:03:11.480 doing as well against Harris as he was against Biden, where there was infighting 02:03:11.480 --> 02:03:13.280 going on. This is accelerating. 02:03:13.780 --> 02:03:18.480 And I think you're right that that may be an effect. If the campaign itself 02:03:18.480 --> 02:03:24.500 and the people immediately surrounding Trump start tearing each other apart and start, 02:03:24.580 --> 02:03:30.100 like, in advance doing retribution for the loss that they think might be coming. 02:03:30.340 --> 02:03:34.060 Right. I mean, and honestly, they still have a good shot of winning. 02:03:34.400 --> 02:03:40.180 By the way, even Trump thinks he's losing. Didn't you hear that he went on a rally? 02:03:40.180 --> 02:03:44.840 The future vice president? Yes. He called Walls the future vice president. 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:45.700 I'm like, what? 02:03:47.680 --> 02:03:53.120 Yes. And, and yeah. And so we, we've got another number of things. 02:03:53.160 --> 02:04:02.460 The thing is time is running out as we were recording, as we were recording 52 days left. 02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:06.140 Okay. Two days. And so we've got a number of things. We've got this potential, 02:04:06.300 --> 02:04:10.220 like his campaign spinning out of control and infighting, blah, blah, blah. 02:04:10.580 --> 02:04:15.620 We've got the continued evidence of Trump, like not being with it. 02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:18.600 You, you mentioned calling walls, the future vice president. 02:04:18.820 --> 02:04:21.800 He's also been messing up almost on a daily basis. 02:04:23.300 --> 02:04:24.540 Where he is. 02:04:24.860 --> 02:04:31.200 Yeah. Yeah. Like he was in California and thought he was in Hawaii. He was in Arizona. 02:04:31.740 --> 02:04:35.380 Pennsylvania or North Carolina. I don't know. He was like all, 02:04:35.400 --> 02:04:36.380 he was all over the fucking. 02:04:36.480 --> 02:04:39.740 And look, I understand if you're traveling all over the 02:04:39.780 --> 02:04:44.600 place i might get confused too but this is one of the things that if you're 02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:49.200 running for president you make damn sure you get right like you know i you know 02:04:49.200 --> 02:04:52.620 i've seen videos of people doing concert tours that got the city wrong and stuff 02:04:52.620 --> 02:04:54.320 oh god yeah so that happened yeah. 02:04:54.320 --> 02:04:55.620 Well that happens all the time yeah. 02:04:55.620 --> 02:05:00.720 But you know you get this right you know but and then just the, 02:05:01.460 --> 02:05:04.560 unintelligible string of conversation and stuff like 02:05:04.560 --> 02:05:07.200 that and i mean even the dogs and 02:05:07.200 --> 02:05:10.100 cats thing is an example of that right where 02:05:10.100 --> 02:05:13.240 he's not getting the information right 02:05:13.240 --> 02:05:16.560 he's off topic he's not really doing what 02:05:16.560 --> 02:05:21.060 he intended to do and there were multiple examples of that during the debate 02:05:21.060 --> 02:05:25.920 where she she baited him in she baited him into the topic and then he got into 02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:30.420 it and then he got sort of lost and rambly and it and so all of this is going 02:05:30.420 --> 02:05:34.060 on like you know there's a lot of this that, 02:05:34.120 --> 02:05:39.220 I mean, for all the stuff that people hounded Biden out of the race for, 02:05:39.340 --> 02:05:41.420 Trump's just as fucking bad. 02:05:42.230 --> 02:05:45.070 You know, and in some ways worse in. 02:05:45.070 --> 02:05:46.350 Many ways worse. 02:05:46.490 --> 02:05:52.370 You know, and but, you know, that at this point. 02:05:52.430 --> 02:05:56.870 I'm going to say this again. The only listen, Biden was a stutterer, 02:05:56.890 --> 02:06:00.570 so he did struggle with like speaking for his entire life. 02:06:00.630 --> 02:06:03.130 So him fucking up things was always something that happened. 02:06:03.210 --> 02:06:05.450 It's just that his fucking up of 02:06:05.450 --> 02:06:09.690 things, you know, has combined with him sounding older because he is old. 02:06:09.690 --> 02:06:12.350 That's it you know i saw a couple of 02:06:12.350 --> 02:06:15.290 clips of him from the last week and they were still entirely 02:06:15.290 --> 02:06:18.790 variable right like there were some where he was okay there 02:06:18.790 --> 02:06:22.130 were some where it was like oh something's wrong with him right now so like 02:06:22.130 --> 02:06:26.710 i think that with the pressure of the campaign off he's relaxed a little bit 02:06:26.710 --> 02:06:32.410 so he's not like trying super hard to look like vigorous every appearance well 02:06:32.410 --> 02:06:36.930 look he did make that one very funny appearance with the hat yeah. 02:06:36.930 --> 02:06:41.290 With the yeah Yeah, and that was hilarious. And, you know, he did that. 02:06:41.470 --> 02:06:43.850 You know, the guy, you know, asked him, and he's like, okay, 02:06:43.910 --> 02:06:46.830 fine. You don't fucking put the hat on. And then he told everybody, 02:06:46.950 --> 02:06:48.390 hey, just no eating cats and dogs. 02:06:49.810 --> 02:06:55.430 Yeah, but I've seen others where he's sort of standing there not looking great. But, you know. 02:06:55.530 --> 02:06:58.770 I mean, he's eight. Sam. 02:06:58.990 --> 02:06:59.850 I know, I know. 02:06:59.950 --> 02:07:02.910 I'm going to fucking remember this when you turn 82. 02:07:03.170 --> 02:07:05.570 Oh, I'm confused all the time right now. 02:07:06.110 --> 02:07:08.750 Exactly. I'm going to see how the fuck you're standing over there, 02:07:08.750 --> 02:07:12.350 whatever, looking like all fucking beachy king. I mean, come on, man. I mean, no, no. 02:07:12.350 --> 02:07:19.910 I know. I, I, all I'm saying is that I'm, I'm glad things turned out how they are at this point. 02:07:20.130 --> 02:07:22.330 Like, look, I was, I was glad. 02:07:22.790 --> 02:07:28.030 I am glad. I am glad that Biden can get a rest. Can I be honest? 02:07:28.870 --> 02:07:32.370 Because you know what? But the job that he did the last four years, 02:07:32.530 --> 02:07:36.290 running a fucking election, running again, is fucking hard. 02:07:37.110 --> 02:07:44.690 And you know what? Right now, everybody, all of us, we need to bring this home for this guy. 02:07:44.970 --> 02:07:52.510 Yeah. I was, you know, bringing up the history. I was against the people trying to push him out. 02:07:52.670 --> 02:07:53.410 So was I. 02:07:53.410 --> 02:07:59.770 And specifically because they were, I felt like, 02:08:00.380 --> 02:08:03.540 He was behind, but it was possible it would just be a hard slog. 02:08:03.860 --> 02:08:07.960 But also, they were also very much like, we don't want Harris either, 02:08:08.080 --> 02:08:09.300 this open convention stuff. 02:08:09.500 --> 02:08:12.420 I thought the open convention thing would have been an absolute disaster. 02:08:12.780 --> 02:08:19.880 But the way Biden actually pulled it off by immediately pushing Harris and essentially 02:08:19.880 --> 02:08:24.320 cutting off any other alternatives off at the knees was perfect. 02:08:24.620 --> 02:08:27.440 And I think this was the best possible way it could have gone. 02:08:28.080 --> 02:08:32.440 Obviously, it's still a neck and neck race. Harris is not like yet pulling way 02:08:32.440 --> 02:08:33.900 ahead or anything like that. 02:08:33.980 --> 02:08:37.860 I would love it if she did, but I think we're better off than we would have 02:08:37.860 --> 02:08:41.160 been with Biden at the same point, whether or not he could. 02:08:41.240 --> 02:08:45.420 I think in the end, the dynamic would be all of those people who were like, 02:08:45.460 --> 02:08:48.000 I can't vote for Biden because he's old. 02:08:48.120 --> 02:08:50.580 Most of them in the end, when we got to October. 02:08:50.720 --> 02:08:53.940 They would have been like, yeah, they probably would have. 02:08:53.960 --> 02:08:57.080 But, but in the end, you know, they would have come home. yeah but 02:08:57.080 --> 02:09:00.140 in the end you know i this 02:09:00.140 --> 02:09:03.880 is the best other possible outcome alternative 02:09:03.880 --> 02:09:08.420 outcome i mean we said it before that if biden drops the only real had to be 02:09:08.420 --> 02:09:13.500 harris it had to be harris it had to be harris there's no other fucking realistic 02:09:13.500 --> 02:09:19.540 option and so so you know this is where we are with 50 fucking days to this 02:09:19.540 --> 02:09:21.520 damn thing and i'm just like 52.1. 02:09:21.520 --> 02:09:22.860 As of this moment. 02:09:22.860 --> 02:09:27.900 Swear to god i I want, as many I have seen publicly express, 02:09:28.240 --> 02:09:36.400 I want to be able to get to this election win and hopefully fucking not have 02:09:36.400 --> 02:09:40.720 to talk again about fucking Donald J. 02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:44.600 I will predict right now, even 02:09:44.600 --> 02:09:48.580 if he loses, we will still be talking about Donald Trump for a long time. 02:09:48.580 --> 02:09:52.500 But it's going to be from a different perspective. Yes. I don't think that, 02:09:52.500 --> 02:09:54.500 okay, he lost once, he's trying again. 02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:58.500 I don't think he could lose twice and fucking go and try for a third. 02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:02.380 no way i mean i i think that that at 02:10:02.380 --> 02:10:05.320 that point that that just collapses you can't 02:10:05.320 --> 02:10:10.480 lose twice and then i mean now i know that he has the republican listen the 02:10:10.480 --> 02:10:15.960 republican party right now is donald j trump yeah everything else has been eviscerated 02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:21.980 it's it's pure maga but you know we'll see what we'll see what happens anyway 02:10:21.980 --> 02:10:25.260 all right let's wrap this puppy up yep we're. 02:10:25.260 --> 02:10:28.900 Done wrap the puppy up but don't eat it. 02:10:28.900 --> 02:10:33.180 Don't eat it please don't eat the puppy no don't eat the puppy no eating of 02:10:33.180 --> 02:10:37.440 the puppies right we are we are on this on this program we are against puppy 02:10:37.440 --> 02:10:40.040 eating and cats or other pets. 02:10:40.040 --> 02:10:42.920 Or other pets yeah don't don't eat the pets. 02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:44.680 Don't eat the pets okay. 02:10:44.680 --> 02:10:49.680 With that we are done curmudgeons-corner.com you can find all the ways to contact 02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:53.680 us you can find our a link to the YouTube version of these shows, 02:10:53.940 --> 02:11:01.640 you can find our Patreon so you can give us money, money, money, money, millions. 02:11:01.960 --> 02:11:04.020 Billions, trillions. 02:11:04.620 --> 02:11:05.820 Go for the trillions. 02:11:06.040 --> 02:11:06.520 Yeah. 02:11:06.600 --> 02:11:07.160 Might as well. 02:11:08.100 --> 02:11:08.580 Yeah. 02:11:08.740 --> 02:11:12.580 And on the Patreon at various levels of monthly contribution, 02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:15.120 we'll mention you on the show. 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Yvonne is confused looking for his bell, 02:11:22.180 --> 02:11:27.500 there we go there's a bell and importantly, 02:11:28.020 --> 02:11:37.620 at $2 a month or if you just ask us even not nicely oh that reminds me we had feedback. 02:11:37.620 --> 02:11:38.580 Didn't we have feedback. 02:11:38.580 --> 02:11:42.380 Oh shit anyway 02:11:42.380 --> 02:11:45.100 what was I going to say at any of 02:11:45.100 --> 02:11:47.980 those levels we will invite you to the curmudgeon score slack where 02:11:47.980 --> 02:11:50.800 we blah blah blah blah blah i will talk but in the 02:11:50.800 --> 02:11:53.680 meantime i did want to mention we did 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:56.780 have a comment on one of 02:11:56.780 --> 02:12:01.680 our recent youtube videos it was like two shows ago something like that uh the 02:12:01.680 --> 02:12:10.080 one the one where yvonne was sick oh yes and this was from from sean i'll just 02:12:10.080 --> 02:12:16.260 say that from sean and they just said i assure you i am not a bot Long time listener. 02:12:17.380 --> 02:12:18.340 All right. 02:12:18.420 --> 02:12:19.320 Way to go, Sean. 02:12:19.560 --> 02:12:24.800 Thank you, Sean. Sean not only commented on our Curmudgeon's Corner YouTube 02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:27.040 channel, he also subscribed. 02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:34.000 We now have three subscribers to the YouTube channel. Am I subscribed? No, you are not. 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:42.320 I was going to say, of the three, I am number one. Number two is also long time listener, John. 02:12:44.280 --> 02:12:49.340 Yeah, John, who's actually been on the show before and who I used to work with 02:12:49.340 --> 02:12:51.460 at Merrill Lynch a long time ago. And then Sean. 02:12:52.200 --> 02:12:59.000 And yeah, so three subscribers. Yeah, so now it looks like each of you are. 02:12:59.000 --> 02:12:59.660 Now at four. 02:13:00.620 --> 02:13:04.580 Oh, congrats. Oh, I just yelled into the mic. And it looks like, 02:13:04.580 --> 02:13:09.220 you know, each of our episodes is getting, you know, I don't know, 02:13:09.260 --> 02:13:11.680 two to five views like on the YouTube. 02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:15.900 so probably not the whole show but hey that's that's. 02:13:15.900 --> 02:13:16.740 How we started on the podcast. 02:13:16.740 --> 02:13:20.680 Yeah so that that's fine and anyway and 02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:24.240 then of course the uh the the youtube for 02:13:24.240 --> 02:13:28.580 anybody who's curious first of all it has video of yvonne and i not just the 02:13:28.580 --> 02:13:33.660 audio second of all it's completely unedited so like in the edited version of 02:13:33.660 --> 02:13:38.340 this there are a few times where i was coughing or clearing my throat you might 02:13:38.340 --> 02:13:41.680 not get that in the audio version but if you want to hear, 02:13:42.280 --> 02:13:45.000 sam coughing and clearing his throat you could 02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:48.440 watch the youtube version wow it also 02:13:48.440 --> 02:13:51.220 wow i'll also the audio version also 02:13:51.220 --> 02:13:54.060 cuts out like what what do you call them 02:13:54.060 --> 02:13:57.820 i can't use the terms because they'll be cut out the 02:13:57.820 --> 02:14:00.660 the little noises that you make when 02:14:00.660 --> 02:14:03.960 you're talking and you're if fillers fillers 02:14:03.960 --> 02:14:07.700 where you're you you use certain sounds that 02:14:07.700 --> 02:14:10.480 you repeat when you're not quite sure what you say next 02:14:10.480 --> 02:14:13.180 it cuts those out and it cuts 02:14:13.180 --> 02:14:19.100 out long long silences so but so the the audio version is different but anyway 02:14:19.100 --> 02:14:22.720 that's it that's it that's all i got so i mentioned the curmudgeon's core slack 02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:27.920 that you can get invited to so yvonne how about something from the curmudgeon's 02:14:27.920 --> 02:14:31.100 core our slack that we have not talked about today well. 02:14:31.100 --> 02:14:38.020 I found and i shared this on the slack just the headline and you know the the 02:14:38.020 --> 02:14:45.960 lead of a new york times opinion piece from december 8 1903 it said man won't fly for a million. 02:14:45.960 --> 02:14:49.000 Years yes to build a flying machine. 02:14:49.000 --> 02:14:53.260 Would require to combine and continuous efforts of mathematicians and mechanics 02:14:53.260 --> 02:14:56.520 for 1 million to 10 million years, 02:14:57.340 --> 02:15:03.320 so that's how you know the thing i'm thinking about some things in terms of 02:15:03.320 --> 02:15:06.440 progress and where the hell we are with that now i'm wondering. 02:15:06.440 --> 02:15:10.660 Well say so here's the i mean i don't know here's here's the more specific thing 02:15:10.660 --> 02:15:17.760 that that that comment in the new york times came out in response to the latest 02:15:17.760 --> 02:15:24.360 in a long string of failures for people to make an airplane that work three days 02:15:24.700 --> 02:15:31.000 later was the successful Orville and Wilbur Wright flight three days after that editorial. 02:15:31.440 --> 02:15:32.040 Nice. 02:15:32.220 --> 02:15:37.480 They, they also, the New York times also published a similar editorial about 02:15:37.480 --> 02:15:40.000 how going to the moon was impossible. Uh, 02:15:41.090 --> 02:15:45.770 And not that long after it happened. Obviously, a few decades after the one you did. 02:15:46.530 --> 02:15:50.370 And speaking of space stuff, I do want to mention one other thing in passing. 02:15:51.730 --> 02:15:57.030 The SpaceX's Polaris Dawn mission is currently in space. 02:15:57.750 --> 02:16:03.310 This has gone out further than any manned flight since Apollo. 02:16:04.110 --> 02:16:10.970 It's like 1,400 kilometers, I think. So higher than the normal low Earth orbit. it is a tourist it is. 02:16:10.970 --> 02:16:12.870 A high low earth orbit still yeah. 02:16:12.870 --> 02:16:17.990 Well it's well it's under yeah it's not like geosynchronous like all the way out no no. 02:16:17.990 --> 02:16:19.090 It's it's relatively. 02:16:19.090 --> 02:16:24.210 Low but it's it's significantly higher like the the it's significant it's. 02:16:24.210 --> 02:16:28.150 At the high end of what's what what is considered like low earth orbit. 02:16:28.150 --> 02:16:32.770 Anyway it's considerably higher than what the normal orbits than the iss and 02:16:32.770 --> 02:16:37.290 all that kind of stuff or all of those yeah it's considerably higher up and 02:16:37.290 --> 02:16:42.290 it it's It's a commercial flight, so all of the passengers are paid passengers. 02:16:42.910 --> 02:16:45.790 They're all like billionaires who wanted to go up on a ride. 02:16:46.350 --> 02:16:49.790 And it's the first such flight with a spacewalk. 02:16:50.250 --> 02:16:55.310 So one of the billionaires put on a little spacesuit and got to walk outside 02:16:55.310 --> 02:16:58.110 the space capsule for like half an hour or something. 02:16:59.130 --> 02:17:05.210 So there you go. And so we talked about Boeing not being able to get their folks back. 02:17:05.310 --> 02:17:07.790 At the same time, SpaceX is doing this. 02:17:08.050 --> 02:17:11.350 So, you know, I presume you've bought your tickets. 02:17:11.430 --> 02:17:16.710 Yvonne. Yeah. Yeah. They're ready. I'm waiting for you to come over so we can hitch a ride. 02:17:16.810 --> 02:17:20.430 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's it. I think we're done. Are we done, 02:17:20.470 --> 02:17:23.390 Yvonne? Are we done? Done. Done. Done. Done. Done. Done. 02:17:23.430 --> 02:17:23.910 Very much so. 02:17:24.030 --> 02:17:25.490 Did I, did I say done enough? 02:17:26.090 --> 02:17:26.410 Yes. 02:17:26.870 --> 02:17:28.430 Done. Done. Done. There we go. 02:17:28.490 --> 02:17:28.990 Yeah. Yeah. 02:17:29.590 --> 02:17:34.830 Okay. Everybody stay safe. Have a good week. We'll talk to you next time. Goodbye. 02:18:07.270 --> 02:18:08.830 Okay, here comes the stop button.