WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:09.510 Hello hello uh hi it says bub joined in portrait orientation you may wish to 00:00:09.510 --> 00:00:16.550 tell them to switch to landscape so it matches yours at all i also have no video only audio which is oh no. 00:00:16.550 --> 00:00:19.550 You don't because i'm oh god. 00:00:19.550 --> 00:00:21.530 What's going on oh. 00:00:21.530 --> 00:00:26.170 I i i i i i stayed out way too late in vegas. 00:00:27.070 --> 00:00:30.430 Are you still in Vegas? I thought you were flying home this morning. 00:00:31.930 --> 00:00:34.890 No, I got here yesterday. 00:00:35.670 --> 00:00:36.630 Ah, okay. 00:00:38.650 --> 00:00:38.730 Mr. 00:00:40.150 --> 00:00:40.830 Bow-partying? 00:00:41.910 --> 00:00:44.170 It was not my plan. 00:00:46.530 --> 00:00:47.170 Okay. 00:00:47.350 --> 00:00:48.210 All right. 00:00:50.930 --> 00:00:54.670 Let's try to do this as fast as we can. 00:00:56.170 --> 00:01:04.190 Hold on, there we go, pull that, oh, why, there we go. 00:01:05.350 --> 00:01:10.710 All right, let me, I'm turning off the AC, turning down the fan, okay, here we go. 00:01:13.410 --> 00:01:14.290 All right. 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.760 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for Saturday, September 7th, 2024. 00:01:43.820 --> 00:01:49.640 It is 1810 UTC as we're starting to record. I'm Sam Minter. Yvonne Bowe is here, 00:01:49.800 --> 00:01:51.340 sort of, kind of. Hi, Yvonne. 00:01:52.220 --> 00:01:54.600 Hi. How are you? 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:55.740 You're so peppy. 00:01:55.740 --> 00:01:56.400 How's everybody? 00:01:56.800 --> 00:01:58.060 You're so peppy, excited. 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:04.360 Oh, I'm peppy. Oh, yeah. Peppy. Peppy and cheap. Yes. 00:02:04.360 --> 00:02:04.980 Peppy Le Pew. 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.920 That's what they call it. Yeah. That's what they call me. 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.780 Oh, God. Okay, so we're going to do our butt first, and then we're going to 00:02:12.780 --> 00:02:13.840 talk more serious topics. 00:02:13.920 --> 00:02:19.560 So I am going to ask Yvonne to, like, elaborate on his condition a little bit. 00:02:19.700 --> 00:02:27.260 But first, right off the top, I just want to note that of the podcast version 00:02:27.260 --> 00:02:28.320 of Curmudgeon's Corner, 00:02:28.500 --> 00:02:32.040 so not counting the WRCT radio show when we were in college, 00:02:32.180 --> 00:02:35.820 this here is the 900th episode. 00:02:35.820 --> 00:02:46.100 Episode oh wow there you go so big milestone and you know and i and i i decided to arrive, 00:02:46.760 --> 00:02:50.900 perfectly ready to go okay. 00:02:50.900 --> 00:02:55.220 So i i will have my usual movie later and i said last week it's going to be 00:02:55.220 --> 00:02:59.380 ghostbusters 2 but first yvonne what the hell is going on with you what's what's happening it. 00:02:59.380 --> 00:03:12.020 I'm in vegas yeah i got here yesterday i didn't i got so because of my work 00:03:12.020 --> 00:03:14.940 performance in sales you're. 00:03:14.940 --> 00:03:16.720 Getting an award you mentioned that last week. 00:03:16.720 --> 00:03:20.620 Right and so it was it's here in 00:03:20.660 --> 00:03:24.000 vegas and so i arrived yesterday for 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.260 this it's going to be through monday but 00:03:28.260 --> 00:03:34.640 then i go home my wife didn't come because and understandably i don't know if 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:39.500 you remember how jet lagged she was in seattle when we visited probably okay 00:03:39.500 --> 00:03:45.120 yeah well if you remember like you know yeah she i remember everyone got the flu. 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.100 But yeah i don't remember the jet lag. 00:03:47.100 --> 00:03:49.780 Oh god the flu and we got 00:03:49.780 --> 00:03:52.920 the flu but she was very jet lagged and 00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:55.620 so she was like look this trip we're gonna 00:03:55.620 --> 00:03:58.500 go there what on a friday and then to come back 00:03:58.500 --> 00:04:01.880 on monday and i'm like ah no it's 00:04:01.880 --> 00:04:08.120 okay and so i gotta be honest i was so tired i you know i got sick last week 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:14.000 as everybody knows yep that listens to the podcast but not it's not my best 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.860 week last week and i was like really debating do i really want to go to Vegas. 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:24.400 I'm like, I mean, do I really? I mean, I don't care. So, you know, 00:04:25.330 --> 00:04:33.430 So, okay, fine. Yesterday, I had to get up at a stupidly early hour and go to 00:04:33.430 --> 00:04:39.390 the damn airport again to get on the damn flight to Vegas, which isn't the short flight. Okay. 00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:44.270 So, wait, your flight was Friday morning? Or this morning? 00:04:44.350 --> 00:04:45.150 Yeah, Friday morning. 00:04:45.210 --> 00:04:45.670 Friday morning. 00:04:45.770 --> 00:04:49.470 No, Friday morning. Friday morning, yes, you know, to fly in yesterday. 00:04:49.970 --> 00:04:53.710 And then one of the things that happened on the way over is, 00:04:53.710 --> 00:04:58.870 so i've been flying so much that american airlines they charge for wi-fi some 00:04:58.870 --> 00:05:03.430 airlines don't right now but american does so they have this thing where you 00:05:03.430 --> 00:05:06.830 either you pay every flight or you sign up for a monthly subscription right 00:05:06.830 --> 00:05:09.590 right well given how much i've been flying you signed up for. 00:05:09.590 --> 00:05:10.270 The monthly subscription. 00:05:10.270 --> 00:05:14.290 I signed up for the monthly fucking subscription doesn't make any sense to be 00:05:14.290 --> 00:05:21.210 paying you know for for every every flight so i got on the plane i logged in 00:05:21.210 --> 00:05:22.650 and i'm I'm on the internet. 00:05:22.830 --> 00:05:27.050 But it seemed that everybody else was trying to do it not with a subscription, 00:05:27.290 --> 00:05:31.230 which is most people trying to pay. It wasn't working. 00:05:32.010 --> 00:05:37.930 So I'm online and I'd sent some work messages and I was expecting some responses. 00:05:38.470 --> 00:05:43.910 You know, flight that still got four plus hours to go in the middle of the day. 00:05:45.050 --> 00:05:49.950 And some people complained they couldn't connect. So the pilot goes and resets the Wi-Fi. 00:05:50.070 --> 00:05:54.610 All of a sudden I noticed is that my damn connection gets disconnected. 00:05:55.550 --> 00:05:59.570 After they reset the Wi-Fi, it didn't work at all. 00:06:00.130 --> 00:06:00.610 Right. 00:06:00.950 --> 00:06:02.270 So I couldn't connect back. 00:06:02.770 --> 00:06:03.250 Beautiful. 00:06:03.370 --> 00:06:06.210 So I spent four plus hours on the plane, and I'm like, 00:06:07.030 --> 00:06:12.030 Now, I think I've said this before in terms of, oh, well, I'm not getting bothered 00:06:12.030 --> 00:06:14.830 by shit. This is nice. That was good. 00:06:15.910 --> 00:06:20.530 But given the length of the flight, the moment I landed, it's like, 00:06:20.570 --> 00:06:25.290 I swear to God, it's like I landed into a fucking, you know, 00:06:25.370 --> 00:06:29.030 four alarm fire of shit that was wrong. 00:06:29.410 --> 00:06:31.350 And why the hell weren't you answering? 00:06:31.970 --> 00:06:37.490 We've been looking for you for hours. worry someone because you. 00:06:37.490 --> 00:06:42.010 Used to just be able to say well i was on a plane because you weren't able to 00:06:42.010 --> 00:06:44.990 be contacted on the plane but now everyone expects you to be online anyway. 00:06:44.990 --> 00:06:48.290 Correct yeah oh i 00:06:48.290 --> 00:06:51.610 don't know so i got here yesterday and then 00:06:51.610 --> 00:06:54.450 i had to work for a while 00:06:54.450 --> 00:06:58.190 and then there was and they did this thing last 00:06:58.190 --> 00:07:01.770 night this little reception and 00:07:01.770 --> 00:07:09.510 then i got dragged to dinner and then I got dragged to a club and then I must 00:07:09.510 --> 00:07:17.670 say I'm saying dragged because it wasn't like that was my plan and then I lost 00:07:17.670 --> 00:07:20.150 the people that I was with that 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:26.670 had taken me there and I said well I'll go to the casino okay so, 00:07:27.890 --> 00:07:31.210 I'm going to say I did I at 00:07:31.210 --> 00:07:34.710 one point was up at the blackjack 00:07:34.710 --> 00:07:38.830 table well over three hundred dollars up okay okay 00:07:38.830 --> 00:07:41.870 but i will say that i had pulled 00:07:41.870 --> 00:07:44.690 out a certain amount of money and my point of pulling out 00:07:44.690 --> 00:07:47.550 a certain amount of money that was not to make money 00:07:47.550 --> 00:07:52.790 is like okay let's see how long we can make this last well it took a long time 00:07:52.790 --> 00:07:59.830 but i did get down that i lost all the money okay okay but that took a very 00:07:59.830 --> 00:08:05.230 very long time And so then after that I got to the roof And now I'm, 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:07.440 talking to you. 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.640 Ah, so you pulled an all-nighter. 00:08:12.700 --> 00:08:20.460 I stayed, I believe, according to my records, I got the bed somewhere like at 00:08:20.460 --> 00:08:22.580 four in the morning, something like that. 00:08:22.980 --> 00:08:27.580 I did wake up a little bit ago. I had breakfast and stuff because I knew I was doing this. 00:08:27.640 --> 00:08:32.560 So I got up and did get some room service breakfast. 00:08:33.140 --> 00:08:36.280 Thank God that this hotel is Vegas a 00:08:36.280 --> 00:08:39.080 a good Vegas you know a good Vegas 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.420 hotel because there's a whole bunch of hotels here that don't even have even 00:08:42.420 --> 00:08:47.880 like a mini bar or stuff or whatever so there's there's it does have its full 00:08:47.880 --> 00:08:56.540 service so I was able to get breakfast but up here and I ate so and now so it is the. 00:08:56.540 --> 00:09:00.600 Problem you didn't have enough sleep or is the problem that you like partied hard. 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.780 It's it's all All of the above. 00:09:03.500 --> 00:09:07.980 Because like, you know, it's here on the West Coast, it's 11 a.m. 00:09:07.980 --> 00:09:11.100 I've been up for a couple hours, but I also I didn't go to sleep till almost 00:09:11.100 --> 00:09:13.960 4 a.m. last night just because it's a normal Friday night in the winter. 00:09:14.040 --> 00:09:17.940 Oh, it's. Yeah, but but, you know. 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:25.720 With the party and all I was doing was sitting on the couch watching stuff with Alex, you know. 00:09:25.920 --> 00:09:26.400 Exactly. 00:09:26.540 --> 00:09:32.440 I wasn't drinking. I wasn't like running around. I was just like chilling with 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.240 my son doing stuff. Right. 00:09:35.020 --> 00:09:41.520 Well, oh, oh, good one. Yeah. Well, no, I wasn't doing that. No. 00:09:42.340 --> 00:09:45.340 So anyway. You sound wonderful. Okay. 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.660 I sound great. It's sort of second 00:09:47.660 --> 00:09:51.180 consecutive week that I sound fantastic after a bunch of this quarter. 00:09:51.660 --> 00:09:52.740 Beautiful. Beautiful. 00:09:52.900 --> 00:09:56.360 I'm getting old for this shit. Okay. 00:09:58.420 --> 00:10:03.540 Okay so you got any other but first stuff or should i jump right to ghost no, 00:10:04.660 --> 00:10:07.740 let's go and i will say as well like 00:10:07.740 --> 00:10:14.220 where you know this i can guarantee you this time that this show is going to 00:10:14.220 --> 00:10:19.100 be on the short side for our normal stuff because i have a hard stop after we're 00:10:19.100 --> 00:10:23.060 recording because i've got a like a i've got a zoom call scheduled with my dad 00:10:23.060 --> 00:10:27.440 you know at a at a certain time so like you know and. 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.900 I'm not exactly being very peppy. 00:10:29.900 --> 00:10:35.640 No no yeah you don't but but maybe we can get you like aggravated and angry 00:10:35.640 --> 00:10:38.540 and then like that'll like cheer you up there. 00:10:38.540 --> 00:10:44.100 There you go i am going to the spa this afternoon that was like the thing that 00:10:44.100 --> 00:10:49.400 i chose as an activity i chose to go to the spa so i i'm, 00:10:50.820 --> 00:10:58.480 I'm going to do that. I'm going to have them try to see if they can rejuvenate me somehow. 00:10:59.060 --> 00:11:01.920 I don't think it's going to work. Or maybe it will. Who knows? 00:11:03.680 --> 00:11:08.780 Okay, so Ghostbusters 2. I talked about Ghostbusters last week. 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.560 We watched a little bit later. We watched Ghostbusters 2. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.220 I guess, how much later was it? I can tell you the speed. 00:11:15.640 --> 00:11:18.320 What year did Ghostbusters 2 come out? 00:11:18.340 --> 00:11:22.940 I'll get to that. So we watched Ghostbusters on March 24th. We watched Ghostbusters 00:11:22.940 --> 00:11:25.280 2 on April 13th. So a few weeks later. 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.960 But no, Ghostbusters 1 was 1984. 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.540 And Ghostbusters 2 was 1989. So five years later. 00:11:34.580 --> 00:11:34.800 OK. 00:11:34.860 --> 00:11:35.640 Five years later. 00:11:35.780 --> 00:11:36.480 OK, five years. 00:11:37.760 --> 00:11:43.700 And here's the thing. I remember. I've watched the original Ghostbusters more 00:11:43.700 --> 00:11:45.920 than I've watched Ghostbusters 2. 00:11:46.640 --> 00:11:51.020 OK? Like I'd seen both of them before, but I've seen the original Ghostbusters 00:11:51.020 --> 00:11:53.120 more often than I'd seen Ghostbusters 2. 00:11:54.680 --> 00:11:59.620 Well, my recollection is that it wasn't as good as the first. 00:11:59.660 --> 00:12:03.240 So here's the thing. That was my recollection too. My recollection, 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:09.620 going back to seeing it in the theaters in 1989, because I remember I saw Ghostbusters 00:12:09.620 --> 00:12:11.420 2 in the theaters in 1989. 00:12:11.780 --> 00:12:12.580 Yeah, me too. 00:12:12.860 --> 00:12:15.880 And I remember being disappointed by it. 00:12:15.880 --> 00:12:22.180 And i remember being like you know they they just they messed it up they didn't 00:12:22.180 --> 00:12:28.380 like do it right they like you know ghostbusters was great and like they missed 00:12:28.380 --> 00:12:33.420 some of the things that made ghostbusters good when they made ghostbusters too this. 00:12:33.420 --> 00:12:36.360 Was the one where they had this river hate thing. 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:42.660 Yeah going through they had the river of hate thing and they had you know that 00:12:42.660 --> 00:12:50.820 what is his name that somebody the carpenter vigo vigo yes that that's right and but here i i'm. 00:12:50.820 --> 00:12:53.080 Pretty sure i haven't watched this movie since then so i. 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:53.440 Don't know i. 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:54.120 Remember all this. 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:01.580 Yeah so so anyway but watching it again my opinion was different like really 00:13:01.580 --> 00:13:07.000 yeah at various points during it i was like i'm not sure is this actually better 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:13.080 than the first one and and like i think in the end i'm I'm going to say they're, 00:13:13.980 --> 00:13:19.120 roughly similar they have different strengths and weaknesses but like. 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.060 I think that maybe maybe i think we just 00:13:22.060 --> 00:13:25.120 said different strengths and weaknesses maybe why it may 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:30.240 have been disappointing at the moment but now with time i think we're kinder 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:35.120 to it because i think there was something about what you expected as a movie 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:40.240 and what you got and it was different and i think that that may be why you know 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.900 people had a harder opinion of it at the time yeah. 00:13:42.900 --> 00:13:46.620 And actually like there's some things from the original ghostbusters that watching 00:13:46.620 --> 00:13:49.840 it many years later feel kind of cringe like. 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:55.320 Oh wow jeez like like. 00:13:55.320 --> 00:14:01.600 You know what what's his name's uh character hold on i'll tell you a second rick moranis like. 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.240 His character. 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:08.660 Like i i think like in ghostbusters one. 00:14:08.660 --> 00:14:11.520 I am the gatekeeper Yeah. 00:14:11.540 --> 00:14:15.180 Watching him later, it's sort of like, okay, I can see why that was funny, 00:14:15.300 --> 00:14:16.640 but it's a little bit cringy. 00:14:16.680 --> 00:14:21.380 And he was in the second one too, but less prominently. 00:14:21.980 --> 00:14:26.140 And I actually think less of him was good. 00:14:26.740 --> 00:14:32.880 Okay. You know, and no shade to the actor or whatever, but, you know, it's the character. 00:14:33.580 --> 00:14:40.480 And there were aspects of the new one that I just felt like were a little bit more fleshed out. 00:14:40.900 --> 00:14:49.340 And I don't know. It's just, there were, I mean, it wasn't like a clear, 00:14:49.540 --> 00:14:51.520 oh my God, Ghostbusters 2 is actually better. 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:57.480 No, no. But I think it's, like you said, 00:14:57.540 --> 00:15:04.180 whatever disappointment happened when you were sort of expecting an exact rerun 00:15:04.180 --> 00:15:07.700 of the original Ghostbusters and to feel exactly the same way, 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:14.460 that disappears with this many years since then. 00:15:14.540 --> 00:15:17.840 It was just, oh, okay, this is another good Ghostbusters movie. 00:15:18.460 --> 00:15:21.780 It was fine. It was good. it i i am 00:15:21.780 --> 00:15:24.620 going to actually give it a thumbs up along with the original 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:27.500 ghostbusters it's it's like there you go you know 00:15:27.500 --> 00:15:30.940 it was it was a fun little movie and 00:15:30.940 --> 00:15:36.880 it did its thing i mean parts of it were stupid but like parts of the original 00:15:36.880 --> 00:15:42.420 that yeah that's that's the whole thing like this is not intended as like some 00:15:42.420 --> 00:15:48.120 serious movie it's it's intended as a stupid comedy and it succeeds seeds at that. 00:15:48.220 --> 00:15:50.040 It's not a Shakespeare play. 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:56.780 No, no. And, and, you know, and I enjoyed also, I had forgotten that the, 00:15:56.940 --> 00:16:01.620 oh, what, what, what, where's the, I'm looking at the cast list. Who's the guy? 00:16:03.010 --> 00:16:05.910 The the guy oh peter mcnichol is in 00:16:05.910 --> 00:16:10.230 it and i had seen him in more recent things and had completely forgotten he 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:15.430 was in this thing so i you know when it came on he's sort of the guy who works 00:16:15.430 --> 00:16:18.970 at the museum and blah blah blah he his character was a little cringe too like 00:16:18.970 --> 00:16:23.930 you know they they had less of rick moranis but peter mcnichol's character was 00:16:23.930 --> 00:16:25.110 pretty crazy because he was. 00:16:25.110 --> 00:16:30.430 Yeah he was he was the the guy that managed the restoration department i I think. 00:16:30.430 --> 00:16:34.410 You're right. Good, good memory. If you haven't watched this since 89. 00:16:35.010 --> 00:16:39.110 I fuck, I haven't watched it. I'm sure in 30 years. So I don't know. Yeah. 00:16:39.190 --> 00:16:42.570 Yeah. So, yeah, but you know, it was fine. 00:16:42.690 --> 00:16:46.810 That's where Sigourney Weaver was working. Right. Because yes, that's right. 00:16:46.850 --> 00:16:51.010 That's right. You know? And, and so like, I liked it. 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:54.810 And, and like I said, I was tempted a few times while watching it thinking, 00:16:54.910 --> 00:16:58.190 you know, this is just as good as the first one. 00:16:58.250 --> 00:17:03.550 Maybe, maybe in some ways it's even better you know and and i know that's you 00:17:03.550 --> 00:17:08.790 know it probably really like i'm sure i haven't done it you like to do it you 00:17:08.790 --> 00:17:14.070 like to go look at rotten tomatoes i am sure this has a lower rating than the first one like i'm what. 00:17:14.070 --> 00:17:16.190 Does it say i don't know. 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:23.590 No i don't have it i don't have let's let's let's look it up um data. 00:17:23.590 --> 00:17:25.090 We need our data. 00:17:25.090 --> 00:17:28.090 Rotten tomatoes data data Data. 00:17:28.150 --> 00:17:30.310 Data, not the robot data. 00:17:32.550 --> 00:17:36.830 Ghost Busters. Okay. Okay, we got. 00:17:36.890 --> 00:17:40.290 It's got a 55% Rotten Tomatoes. Not that. 00:17:40.570 --> 00:17:45.450 No, not that great at all. Compared to 95 for the original. I don't know. 00:17:45.470 --> 00:17:47.090 I think that's a little harsh. 00:17:47.510 --> 00:17:54.030 Like, I can see the argument that maybe it's not quite as good as the original, but like half as good. 00:17:54.330 --> 00:17:58.290 No, it's decent. recent 00:17:58.290 --> 00:18:01.570 it's and and like i'm looking at this and i just 00:18:01.570 --> 00:18:04.530 preview i'm not talking about it next week or anytime soon 00:18:04.530 --> 00:18:07.690 probably but we did watch the reboot ghostbusters in 00:18:07.690 --> 00:18:10.770 2016 with the women and it's up at 74 00:18:10.770 --> 00:18:13.630 and there is no 00:18:13.630 --> 00:18:16.970 way i would put that one ahead of ghostbusters 2 00:18:16.970 --> 00:18:19.710 i mean i don't think it's that that's another 00:18:19.710 --> 00:18:23.690 one that got a really bad rap and i don't think it deserves as bad 00:18:23.690 --> 00:18:29.810 a rap as it got but i think ghostbusters 2 is better so i don't know like i'm 00:18:29.810 --> 00:18:33.970 looking at these various ratings for the ghostbusters and i'm like for the three 00:18:33.970 --> 00:18:40.670 that i've seen and or and or sorry the four that i've seen and i'm like i don't 00:18:40.670 --> 00:18:43.190 i don't quite agree with these rotten tomato. 00:18:44.350 --> 00:18:48.210 Ratings on them i wouldn't rank them in the same way but you 00:18:48.210 --> 00:18:51.090 know whatever different people have different opinions that's the way the 00:18:51.090 --> 00:18:53.830 world works but i enjoyed ghostbusters 2 it was a 00:18:53.830 --> 00:18:56.750 fun little stupid romp just like the first one was a fun little 00:18:56.750 --> 00:19:04.830 stupid romp you could tell in a few places like you know they were they were 00:19:04.830 --> 00:19:10.110 explicitly i mean the whole deal here was the first movie was successful let's 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:16.710 try to do that again and make some money you know that's what happens. 00:19:18.130 --> 00:19:21.270 That's that's that's that's what the sequel is for hey. 00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:22.910 Hey listen. 00:19:22.910 --> 00:19:26.170 We're gonna invest making this movie a hundred 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:29.370 billion dollars we got a guarantee you know 00:19:29.370 --> 00:19:33.410 we got a guarantee that we're gonna make money so how do we you know how do 00:19:33.410 --> 00:19:38.010 we do that oh great we'll make a sequel you know that's that's That's going 00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:44.510 to guarantee you the percentages on the sequels make a money or higher than 00:19:44.510 --> 00:19:46.290 creating just a totally new movie. 00:19:46.490 --> 00:19:51.090 So here we go. I'm reading the critical assessment section of Wikipedia. 00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:55.890 Since its release, Ghostbusters 2 has been labeled as the film that killed the 00:19:55.890 --> 00:20:00.430 franchise because it made less money from a larger budget than Ghostbusters. 00:20:00.430 --> 00:20:05.950 And because the filming experience and resulting reception dissuaded Murray 00:20:05.950 --> 00:20:07.870 from involvement in a third film. 00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:13.970 While some modern critics continue to criticize it as a bad film or inferior 00:20:13.970 --> 00:20:19.230 to its predecessor, others argue that it suffers from being compared with Ghostbusters 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:21.010 and is otherwise above average. 00:20:21.290 --> 00:20:25.790 In a 2014 interview, Reitman defended the film, saying while it was unfairly 00:20:25.790 --> 00:20:31.490 compared to Batman at the time, he felt Ghostbusters 2 still holds up well against a superhero film. 00:20:32.030 --> 00:20:38.830 Digital Spy defended the film as being as good as or better than Ghostbusters. 00:20:38.930 --> 00:20:43.550 It said the plot of Ghostbusters 2 is arguably better executed than that of 00:20:43.550 --> 00:20:48.030 the first film, with multiple threads coming together in a seamless third act 00:20:48.030 --> 00:20:51.890 with a positive ending that works better with modern audiences. 00:20:52.630 --> 00:20:57.510 Den of Geek compared it to sequels of other genre-specific classics like Back 00:20:57.510 --> 00:21:00.470 to the Future Part II and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, 00:21:00.630 --> 00:21:05.130 which were considered not as good as the original, but as good films in their own right. 00:21:05.290 --> 00:21:11.490 While Ghostbusters 2 is perceived as being a bad film, despite a close similarity to the original. 00:21:11.810 --> 00:21:15.050 Let's see, Deadspin said that like those aforementioned films, 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:20.450 Ghostbusters 2 darker set pieces and comedy made it more suited for adults than 00:21:20.450 --> 00:21:24.010 children, but that it is better than most people remember. 00:21:24.970 --> 00:21:28.650 Uproxx called it the ideal film to watch during the New Year's period because 00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:32.070 it offers an unsubtle, simple morality tale about the world. 00:21:32.930 --> 00:21:36.570 Yeah, Rotten Tomatoes, 55%. We said that. Thanks to the cast, 00:21:36.730 --> 00:21:39.670 Ghostbusters 2 is reasonably amusing, but it lacks the charm, 00:21:39.710 --> 00:21:41.550 wit, and energy of its predecessor. 00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:46.070 Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, meanwhile, Den of Geek listed it as the 00:21:46.070 --> 00:21:50.170 18th best Blockbuster sequel of all time. Okay. 00:21:50.910 --> 00:21:51.390 18th. 00:21:51.570 --> 00:21:54.570 18th best Blockbuster sequel. So you're... 00:21:54.570 --> 00:21:59.330 I don't know. It's not... Yeah, no, no. I find that, you know, 00:21:59.330 --> 00:22:05.430 giving it the... you know i'm gonna say hey i'm the 18th best something isn't exactly. 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:08.590 Well and not only so it's a significantly narrowed down 00:22:08.590 --> 00:22:12.130 something so this isn't 18th best movie this isn't 00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:15.670 18th best blockbuster sequel this is 18th 00:22:15.670 --> 00:22:19.690 best blockbuster sequel yeah so 00:22:19.690 --> 00:22:22.750 anyway it was 00:22:22.750 --> 00:22:25.650 fine and apparently the critical reassessment or whatever 00:22:25.650 --> 00:22:30.270 is sort of like sort of what i was saying like i remember being really disappointed 00:22:30.270 --> 00:22:34.510 when i first saw it but me too but on the rewatch i'm like okay this isn't bad 00:22:34.510 --> 00:22:44.890 i i actually kind of like it so there you go okay that's my so that's my thing about ghostbusters oh. 00:22:44.890 --> 00:22:45.550 I was gonna say. 00:22:45.550 --> 00:22:53.850 Blockbusters two sorry sorry yeah we did ghost okay okay so now uh now we will 00:22:53.850 --> 00:22:59.270 take a break and then we will do our uh newsy segments after this but i will 00:22:59.270 --> 00:23:01.930 say yvonne i i have a surprise for you. 00:23:01.930 --> 00:23:11.130 You have a surprise oh wow i'm i'm as you can see i am just oh so ready to jump for joy at a surprise. 00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:17.750 This is a brand new break whoa yeah okay so okay. 00:23:17.750 --> 00:23:18.410 You got me. 00:23:18.410 --> 00:23:22.950 You're ready it it's it's only about a minute long i think maybe not even i'm 00:23:22.950 --> 00:23:28.330 tingling you're tingling okay uh enjoy this here it comes. 00:23:29.490 --> 00:23:31.910 Okie dokie, here it comes. 00:23:38.570 --> 00:23:46.510 It's just my internet being stupid. My internet being stupid is a new song we will make. 00:24:13.470 --> 00:24:18.470 Come on, come on, come on. Come on, come on. 00:24:19.070 --> 00:24:24.490 I'm tired. What's wrong? I'm really tired. 00:24:25.250 --> 00:24:33.450 It's amazing. To get the show on the road. there's a road there's a road oh my god there's a road. 00:24:33.450 --> 00:24:35.910 There you go that's it. 00:24:37.530 --> 00:24:39.130 Okay that break was hilarious, 00:24:42.310 --> 00:24:44.170 i did not expect that. 00:24:44.170 --> 00:24:51.190 Yeah you know i i could have done more with it but i just like i took a few 00:24:51.190 --> 00:24:56.430 pieces of something we did in our cold open a few weeks ago and and just shoved it together. 00:24:56.890 --> 00:24:59.190 That sounds pretty good. 00:25:02.310 --> 00:25:03.890 That's very impressive. 00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:10.250 Okay, well, good. You know, if I had actual skills of some sort, 00:25:10.350 --> 00:25:14.570 I could make an actual song, but unfortunately I do not have those skills. 00:25:14.810 --> 00:25:19.710 So it was just put some stuff together, make the sounds repeat a few times, 00:25:19.930 --> 00:25:23.210 put some effects on it. I did auto-tune your song. 00:25:25.010 --> 00:25:29.590 Okay, yeah, well, it didn't really help my singing, but, you know, oh well. 00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:34.790 I mean, my singing is bad, the attitude is not going to fix it, so, oh well. 00:25:34.910 --> 00:25:38.870 Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, Yvonne, why don't we start? 00:25:39.790 --> 00:25:45.510 What newsy stuff would you like to talk to, talk to, talk about for this segment? 00:25:46.330 --> 00:25:48.890 Or are you like, Dad, and just want me to pick everything? 00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:52.110 I'm looking, I'm actually looking at the risks. 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:52.430 Okay. 00:25:53.570 --> 00:26:01.330 What newsy thing? Well, you did add today. This thing about the chinks glitch. 00:26:01.370 --> 00:26:07.530 Oh, yes. Thank you for picking this. I have been so amused by this. This is so much fun. 00:26:07.710 --> 00:26:08.570 The glitch. 00:26:09.790 --> 00:26:19.330 I spent a decent amount of time last night and this morning watching some of these TikToks. 00:26:19.390 --> 00:26:26.370 So for those of you who don't know, come on, you all know, right? There was a trend. 00:26:26.750 --> 00:26:28.310 There was a TikTok trend. 00:26:28.670 --> 00:26:32.310 Well, let me see. Hold on, because I haven't watched the TikToks. 00:26:32.310 --> 00:26:35.330 Let me see if I understood what these idiots were saying. 00:26:35.350 --> 00:26:36.350 Okay, okay, go for it. 00:26:36.410 --> 00:26:40.910 From what I have read, okay? I'm going to give my staff the uneducated staff, 00:26:41.650 --> 00:26:47.830 which is what I saw is that these guys said, hey, make a check to yourself. 00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:54.570 Basically, take a picture of it, deposit it, and an amount of the funds will 00:26:54.570 --> 00:26:55.810 be available immediately. 00:26:56.330 --> 00:27:01.910 And then you can go and withdraw that money, and voila, you've got money. 00:27:02.070 --> 00:27:02.470 Yes. 00:27:02.570 --> 00:27:08.310 It's just this glitch. which these morons not understanding that eventually 00:27:08.310 --> 00:27:17.230 Chase will catch up with him and they will deduct the deposit because the Chuck 00:27:17.230 --> 00:27:18.650 had insufficient funds. 00:27:19.070 --> 00:27:19.450 Right. 00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:24.410 And, and then just, you know, you will owe all the money. 00:27:25.070 --> 00:27:28.690 And I mean, I don't understand how these people are this stupid. 00:27:28.790 --> 00:27:32.910 I guess maybe it's just because we don't use checks as much anymore. 00:27:32.910 --> 00:27:36.690 More so people don't understand it i saw people arguing that that was part of 00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:41.410 it but like i think it goes deeper than that like because obviously these are 00:27:41.410 --> 00:27:46.370 people that had checks to so like yeah because there are lots of people who 00:27:46.370 --> 00:27:51.530 like have never even been exposed to checks right but like in order to do this you had to i. 00:27:51.530 --> 00:27:54.430 Think that if you open a second account and chase you automatically. 00:27:54.430 --> 00:28:01.730 You probably do you probably do but anyway look so a couple additional elements here, 00:28:02.510 --> 00:28:08.770 so one they're this is relying on the fact that most banks at this point if 00:28:08.770 --> 00:28:12.050 your account is in good standing and blah blah blah and you deposit a check 00:28:12.050 --> 00:28:16.190 they will give you access to some amount of that money right away and then wait 00:28:16.190 --> 00:28:18.570 for the rest to clear right because it's still well. 00:28:18.570 --> 00:28:23.630 They usually well that's not well let's be clear they'll give you full access 00:28:23.630 --> 00:28:25.590 to the money up and there is. 00:28:25.590 --> 00:28:28.410 Up to a limit a deposit limit yes that you. 00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:34.270 Have a daily deposit limit and so say your your deposit limit daily is $2,000. 00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:39.790 So if you deposit under $2,000, you get access to the funds immediately. 00:28:40.050 --> 00:28:45.170 So what, what happened here? So for like, you know, it is that, 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.520 First, that was going on, but also Chase did apparently have, 00:28:50.560 --> 00:28:55.580 there was a real glitch, which was that that limit was not being applied. 00:28:56.060 --> 00:28:59.460 Okay. So people were doing this with checks. 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:05.120 So they were able to deposit amounts in excess. Well, actually, 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.180 I will tell you what was happening. 00:29:07.360 --> 00:29:07.780 Yes. 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:13.020 What happened, what was happening is that before checks that are from Chase. 00:29:13.300 --> 00:29:15.740 Yes, that is exactly what was happening. chase. 00:29:15.740 --> 00:29:21.500 If it was a chase itself transaction they usually will waive the limit because 00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:24.800 it's like an interbank it's in there inside their bank. 00:29:24.800 --> 00:29:25.840 And so the. 00:29:25.840 --> 00:29:26.640 Limit will be way. 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.600 Now you'd think in that scenario though they would check the balance because 00:29:30.600 --> 00:29:34.540 their chase and it's internal and they have the ability to instantly tell if 00:29:34.540 --> 00:29:38.000 you have the money for the check but apparently they didn't so people were writing 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.220 50 and 100 000 checks to themselves with this scam uh okay and they were, 00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:47.380 withdrawing the cash immediately to try to 00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:53.000 get it out and like they were the whole thing was being presented on tiktok 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:58.780 as like hey there's this glitch just go in you can get your free money isn't 00:29:58.780 --> 00:30:04.720 this awesome blah blah blah blah blah and there are all kinds of videos of people. 00:30:05.950 --> 00:30:09.090 Videoing themselves doing this getting 00:30:09.090 --> 00:30:12.550 like tons and tons of cash and filming 00:30:12.550 --> 00:30:15.530 themselves like dancing with the cash and stuff 00:30:15.530 --> 00:30:24.550 okay and and so here it is almost impossible to overstate how stupid these people 00:30:24.550 --> 00:30:33.770 are okay but yeah like yes first of all apparently and in in watching a lot of these videos. 00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:36.390 There are a bunch of videos out on TikTok. 00:30:36.650 --> 00:30:42.990 A, there's the original videos of the people themselves documenting themselves 00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:46.670 doing this and encouraging other people to do it as well. 00:30:46.810 --> 00:30:50.870 But then there's tons and tons of people dissecting how stupid they are, 00:30:51.010 --> 00:30:55.250 offering their services as lawyers, all kinds of other stuff. 00:30:55.770 --> 00:31:00.590 Because the funny part is first you've got this wave of videos of these people 00:31:00.590 --> 00:31:04.230 saying, oh, there's this glitch, go do it, and filming themselves doing it, 00:31:04.290 --> 00:31:06.150 filming themselves happy with money. 00:31:06.290 --> 00:31:08.910 And then, like, a day later... 00:31:08.910 --> 00:31:13.110 The wave of regret. It's like being in Vegas, basically. 00:31:13.130 --> 00:31:15.630 Then there's a wave of videos where people are... 00:31:15.630 --> 00:31:17.850 Oh, look how awesome the party is! 00:31:18.970 --> 00:31:22.650 Yeah, yeah. The wave of... The next wave of... Wait, wait. 00:31:22.690 --> 00:31:26.250 There's multiple waves of videos here, because the immediate next wave, 00:31:26.250 --> 00:31:36.490 after the joyous withdrawal of the money is people showing their apps suddenly 00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:44.970 having huge negative balances and they're like what the fuck chase is taking my money and like what. 00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:49.910 Chase is taking my money no they're not taking your money they're taking their money back you asshole. 00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:55.410 And then you've got some of them documenting themselves calling Chase customer 00:31:55.410 --> 00:31:59.470 service to ask where their money went and why Chase was stealing their money. 00:32:00.350 --> 00:32:02.090 Oh, these geniuses. 00:32:02.310 --> 00:32:04.710 Okay. And then, then. 00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:07.750 And then Chase explained to them, listen, you fucking. 00:32:08.190 --> 00:32:14.730 Yes. Well, and by the way, by the way, Chase, the Chase TikTok account has been 00:32:14.730 --> 00:32:16.910 reposting these videos from all these people. 00:32:17.390 --> 00:32:19.530 Oh, smart. Okay. 00:32:19.530 --> 00:32:30.850 Okay, but then the third wave is people starting to realize that they have committed federal felonies. 00:32:31.650 --> 00:32:34.910 Well, it's basically, if I remember correctly, this is check kiting. 00:32:35.070 --> 00:32:40.670 Yeah, this is flat-out check fraud of a kind that has existed for a long time. 00:32:41.770 --> 00:32:43.870 Well, it's really straight-up check kiting. 00:32:43.870 --> 00:32:49.430 Yes. Check kiting is the name we used for it decades ago. 00:32:49.630 --> 00:32:52.390 It's a sub-form of check fraud. 00:32:52.630 --> 00:32:54.270 It's a sub-form of bank fraud. 00:32:55.470 --> 00:33:01.250 For all of you not familiar with check kiting, in the past, one of the things 00:33:01.250 --> 00:33:07.390 that happened was, a lot was, that say you deposited a check from a bank in... 00:33:08.870 --> 00:33:12.050 Yvonne has glitched. Are you still there, Yvonne? 00:33:12.050 --> 00:33:18.430 I i am here for some reason i'm getting called by an idiot okay okay imagine imagine. 00:33:18.430 --> 00:33:19.390 You had like. 00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:21.210 Banks on opposite sides of. 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:22.210 The country back in. 00:33:22.210 --> 00:33:25.390 The day when things were slow but back in the day so back 00:33:25.390 --> 00:33:31.990 then for a check to clear from a bank across the other side of the country it 00:33:31.990 --> 00:33:37.470 it it took sometimes up to a couple of weeks okay it was that was the longest 00:33:37.470 --> 00:33:44.370 time before all these transactions went because the physical check had to move around it had to be set. 00:33:44.370 --> 00:33:46.510 From place to place it went from your. 00:33:46.510 --> 00:33:47.430 Your local. 00:33:47.430 --> 00:33:53.930 Bank to a regional center for the bank to a clearinghouse to the other bank. 00:33:53.930 --> 00:33:55.610 You know it the actual. 00:33:55.610 --> 00:33:58.970 Piece of paper had to like make the cross-country. 00:33:58.970 --> 00:34:00.790 Journey and things had. 00:34:00.790 --> 00:34:02.990 To go back and forth like back in. 00:34:02.990 --> 00:34:04.150 The day this stuff was. 00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:10.830 Slow and so it gave you a period of time where potentially if the bank was trusting 00:34:10.830 --> 00:34:13.170 you for that check like we were talking. 00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:13.650 About about. 00:34:13.650 --> 00:34:18.290 The you know they they would front you some amount as soon as you deposited it. 00:34:18.290 --> 00:34:21.670 Well i will tell you that if you were really good with the bank they would give 00:34:21.670 --> 00:34:23.890 you the full amount yeah yeah available immediately it. 00:34:23.890 --> 00:34:25.090 All depends on like. 00:34:25.090 --> 00:34:25.510 How much. 00:34:25.510 --> 00:34:27.270 The bank trusted you right yeah. 00:34:27.270 --> 00:34:31.630 And and you had companies that got caught doing this where what they were doing 00:34:31.630 --> 00:34:36.950 is like move The big fraud part was you had accounts at two different banks. 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:41.970 You would be depositing checks from your other account to that account. 00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:43.410 You knew it would take two weeks. 00:34:43.610 --> 00:34:47.810 And so what you would do is that you would basically be borrowing that money 00:34:47.810 --> 00:34:50.470 for that time period up until –, 00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:55.910 And many times what happened was usually the people would deposit the money 00:34:55.910 --> 00:35:00.070 by the time that it was needed at the other bank. 00:35:00.450 --> 00:35:03.990 And so that was the check kiting. E.F. 00:35:04.010 --> 00:35:08.310 Hutton, which was purchased by Merrill Lynch, which is now part of Bank of America, 00:35:08.450 --> 00:35:11.170 is one of the biggest retail brokers in the U.S. 00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:15.030 Ah, yes. But E.F. Hutton talks people with them. Yeah, exactly. 00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:24.850 They got caught in this fraud where they were doing that repeatedly. 00:35:25.910 --> 00:35:31.890 It was to the tune of tens of tens, hundreds, I think it was hundreds of millions of dollars. 00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:38.150 They got heavily fined. They were doing that. There were businesses that did that. 00:35:40.790 --> 00:35:46.870 My father got caught doing this. okay between a couple of banks okay you know 00:35:46.870 --> 00:35:49.050 to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, 00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:55.130 now the thing is unlike these guys that wound up a negative balance for the 00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:59.610 most part when they were doing it you would be depositing the money by the time 00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:03.330 it it was required at the other account right so when you were creating this 00:36:03.330 --> 00:36:06.570 you were creating this loan yeah you were creating a temporary loan. 00:36:06.570 --> 00:36:12.290 To yourself that you were able to patch back before like it's still fraud just 00:36:12.290 --> 00:36:14.210 to to be clear. It's fraud. 00:36:14.510 --> 00:36:19.450 But these guys were putting the money in the bank in time. 00:36:19.870 --> 00:36:24.610 Now these morons, not understanding that, they were creating a check kite, 00:36:24.690 --> 00:36:26.190 but they were never going to deposit the money. 00:36:26.330 --> 00:36:32.490 They just thought that, oh, free money. We made money magically out of thin air. 00:36:32.930 --> 00:36:39.730 And look, there are videos of lines at Chase Banks, 20 people deep, 00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:44.170 deep waiting to do this at the ATM, you know? 00:36:44.450 --> 00:36:51.610 And, and so, yeah. So now, now there are these videos of people going, Oh crap. 00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:59.230 Chase has started to like there, there have now been people arrested still relatively 00:36:59.230 --> 00:37:03.350 small number, but they're, they're sort of working where their way through the 00:37:03.350 --> 00:37:04.770 list of everybody who did this. 00:37:04.790 --> 00:37:08.950 I presume they've cause here's the thing. Look, it was another thing to remember. 00:37:08.950 --> 00:37:11.210 Remember, apparently these people thought this was all just, 00:37:11.290 --> 00:37:16.350 oh, free money, glitch, everything's okay, I'm just going to get the free money, no one's going to care. 00:37:16.810 --> 00:37:24.790 But A, yes, federal crime. B, you're stealing from the bank, other federal crime. 00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:29.330 But then you are using your own bank account. 00:37:30.260 --> 00:37:34.280 You're right, you idiot. You are using a check that you wrote. 00:37:35.100 --> 00:37:38.720 Wrote. They have all your information. 00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:39.820 They have you at their rights. 00:37:41.180 --> 00:37:51.420 There's no, like, I've seen a few people trying to claim that in some way or another it wasn't them. 00:37:52.040 --> 00:37:57.340 Or, you know, this guy just came up to me and gave me a check and told me to 00:37:57.340 --> 00:38:01.500 deposit it. And so I deposited it for him and then gave him the money. 00:38:01.640 --> 00:38:03.100 You know, I, you know, whatever. 00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:13.920 No, no, I, I, I'm sorry. No, like maybe there were a few people out there that 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:18.500 were smart and were like, Hey, I want to do this, but I don't want to do it myself. 00:38:18.700 --> 00:38:23.080 And so I'll get some random Patsy to do it for me. But most of these people, absolutely. 00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:26.940 We're just doing it themselves thinking it was fine, but all the information 00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:32.180 is right And a whole bunch of you posted the damn thing on TikTok, too. 00:38:33.020 --> 00:38:37.960 Of course they did. Without posting on TikTok, what would be the fun if you didn't do it? 00:38:38.020 --> 00:38:42.040 They posted the fact that they were going to do it. Then they posted themselves doing it. 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:46.140 Then they posted videos of themselves spending the money. Hey, 00:38:46.180 --> 00:38:49.540 I'm going to go buy this big screen TV now. You know? 00:38:51.040 --> 00:38:56.680 Dudes. And then there are all these videos of people being like, I'm scared. 00:38:57.020 --> 00:39:00.940 What's going to happen to me? And then there's like lawyers coming on and replying 00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:04.640 to that saying, what's going to happen to you? You are going to jail. 00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:06.460 There you go. 00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:13.360 You are going, you know, the money is God and you are going to jail. 00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:19.740 Talk, get yourself a lawyer right now to see if they can negotiate down how 00:39:19.740 --> 00:39:21.620 much time you're going to spend in jail. 00:39:21.700 --> 00:39:26.080 But you are going to jail. And oh, by the way, once you get out of jail, 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.120 you're never going to have a bank account again. 00:39:29.180 --> 00:39:34.980 And you are never probably going to be hired again by any reputable employer. 00:39:35.600 --> 00:39:40.340 And nobody's going to rent to you and go down the list. 00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:48.780 And so you see these video progressions of the person sort of gleefully doing 00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:53.140 this thing and then realizing what they've done and being like, oh my God, 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.680 what am I going to do? What am I going to do? 00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:02.620 You know, on the one hand, I feel so much money. 00:40:02.620 --> 00:40:06.500 For these people. But how much money did you see these people do? 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:11.100 So I have seen everything from, there are a few people who only did like a thousand 00:40:11.100 --> 00:40:14.820 or 2000 bucks, but there are people who did up to a hundred thousand. 00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:19.460 Oh my God. Well, those are the people that are going to go to jail. 00:40:19.620 --> 00:40:19.900 Yeah. 00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:24.960 A thousand bucks. You can, you know, it's, you know, you can figure out, Oh, you pay it back. 00:40:25.140 --> 00:40:30.220 I saw one, I saw one video of a guy who had done this and now has the negative 00:40:30.220 --> 00:40:32.060 balance. And it was like, Chase wants there. 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:38.460 I, I got scammed. I don't know what I'm doing, but Chase wants $50,000 and they set up a GoFundMe. 00:40:39.310 --> 00:40:44.490 Wait asshole you had 00:40:44.490 --> 00:40:49.850 the 50 000 okay i'm sure you know they spent it already it's all like exactly 00:40:49.850 --> 00:40:55.610 it's not like you you you know the 50 000 was for a medical bill or something 00:40:55.610 --> 00:41:02.210 or whatever no you went and you took out 50 000 from the bank and you spent it on bullshit, 00:41:03.410 --> 00:41:08.250 and now you want people to do a gofundme to help you because you fucking like 00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:11.210 decided to party on stolen $50,000. 00:41:11.530 --> 00:41:13.490 That's not what GoFundMe is supposed to be. 00:41:15.610 --> 00:41:19.750 Poor. Anyway, I have such mixed feelings. 00:41:19.950 --> 00:41:24.190 On the one hand, I somewhat feel for the ones of these people. 00:41:24.270 --> 00:41:28.330 Can I go and like, can I do a negative deposit in a GoFundMe? 00:41:28.450 --> 00:41:30.970 Can I just take money from his GoFundMe? 00:41:31.090 --> 00:41:33.310 Because that would be the best thing to do to this guy. 00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:37.590 Just, you know, hey, you know, no, now you owe money on GoFundMe, dick. 00:41:37.590 --> 00:41:47.070 So, look, for the folks here who really and truly seem like they were clueless 00:41:47.070 --> 00:41:49.330 and thought this was fine, 00:41:49.530 --> 00:41:52.750 I feel a little bit sorry for them. 00:41:52.790 --> 00:41:58.950 But at the same time, I'm like, how can you possibly be that stupid? I'm sorry. 00:41:59.430 --> 00:42:03.770 Wow. And then there's like people trying to talk seriously about this and about 00:42:03.770 --> 00:42:08.510 like, oh, this points to how we need better financial education in schools and blah, blah, blah. 00:42:08.770 --> 00:42:11.890 Because obviously the education system has failed these people. 00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:19.910 Yeah. You know, and most of these people, by the way, are people who clearly 00:42:19.910 --> 00:42:22.310 were lower on the income scale. 00:42:22.350 --> 00:42:26.730 And like this was like life changing amounts of money. And so they were like, 00:42:26.750 --> 00:42:29.830 a free way to get like thousands of dollars. 00:42:29.870 --> 00:42:35.090 I'm in without thinking any further about it. And it's like, right. 00:42:36.010 --> 00:42:37.710 Oh, man. Really? 00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:40.050 I mean, yeah. 00:42:41.690 --> 00:42:44.710 Um anyway like i i you 00:42:44.710 --> 00:42:47.510 know i don't know like if i if i 00:42:47.510 --> 00:42:51.010 was chase i would i don't 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:55.690 know like you have to go after some of these people but i would concentrate 00:42:55.690 --> 00:43:00.030 on the ones that really did lots and lots of money and on the low and on the 00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:04.390 and on the lower end like the people who did this with a few hundred or even 00:43:04.390 --> 00:43:08.450 a couple thousand dollars i would be payment plan for that i would 00:43:08.490 --> 00:43:11.230 be like exactly i'd be like look you 00:43:11.230 --> 00:43:14.330 have to pay the money back and by the way some fees and fines 00:43:14.330 --> 00:43:17.230 and things like that but we'll set you up a payment plan 00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:20.570 for it we're not going to try to put you in jail because 00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:27.290 you were just a dumbass okay you weren't trying to commit fraud here or i guess 00:43:27.290 --> 00:43:30.090 you you were trying to commit fraud but you didn't know what you were doing 00:43:30.090 --> 00:43:36.270 you were obviously an idiot so let's let's set you up a payment plan we don't 00:43:36.270 --> 00:43:38.210 have to put you in jail for 20 years, 00:43:38.310 --> 00:43:42.250 but the guy who pulled a hundred grand, you're going to jail. Sorry. 00:43:42.710 --> 00:43:49.650 I need to, I need to do a meeting where I go with somebody that is obviously 00:43:49.650 --> 00:43:55.830 an idiot and tell them flat out, you know, Hey, well, I don't, 00:43:55.830 --> 00:43:57.270 I don't think I've done this. 00:43:57.370 --> 00:44:01.550 Right. So I said, listen, you're obviously an idiot. Oh, we're going to, 00:44:01.550 --> 00:44:03.450 we're going to try to help you. Okay. 00:44:03.570 --> 00:44:09.490 I have not use that line in a meeting but i gotta figure out a meeting where 00:44:09.490 --> 00:44:13.610 i could use this okay yeah. 00:44:14.790 --> 00:44:25.290 Anyway and chase has not yet you know said publicly how big this thing was like but i've seen. 00:44:25.290 --> 00:44:30.870 I'm sure it's i mean chase well the reality is and the size of what no no compared 00:44:30.870 --> 00:44:32.210 Compared to the size of Chase. 00:44:32.310 --> 00:44:34.890 It's going to be tiny because Chase is huge. 00:44:35.110 --> 00:44:37.650 Right? Trillion dollars in assets. 00:44:38.050 --> 00:44:45.630 I've heard people estimating. Again, Chase is not saying publicly how many people 00:44:45.630 --> 00:44:48.890 have done this, how many people they're going after, or how much money was involved. 00:44:48.890 --> 00:44:55.290 But I've seen people estimating, based on just how much has been posted publicly 00:44:55.290 --> 00:44:57.930 of people admitting to doing this, 00:44:58.070 --> 00:45:05.890 that we're probably talking on the order of $90 to $100 million worth of this. 00:45:06.170 --> 00:45:06.770 Wow. 00:45:07.410 --> 00:45:08.050 Yeah. Wow. 00:45:08.390 --> 00:45:12.530 Man. Steve. Wow. 00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:18.290 Because lots of people did it. Lots of people saw the TikTok thread and were 00:45:18.290 --> 00:45:21.130 like excited about the free money and went to do it. 00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:24.230 Jesus. That's a lot of money. 00:45:24.490 --> 00:45:24.950 Yeah. 00:45:25.870 --> 00:45:26.330 Well. 00:45:26.930 --> 00:45:31.870 I mean, like you said, for Chase, $100 million isn't that much. But still. 00:45:32.450 --> 00:45:33.990 But it's still a lot of money. 00:45:34.330 --> 00:45:34.790 Yeah. 00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:38.580 But I will tell you, I. 00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:40.180 Did you do it? 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:47.260 Yes. Yes, I did it. I did it. I, you know, that, that guy who got a hundred 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:55.040 grand cheap, cheap, I, I got like 500, you know, and, you know, and the, the, this. 00:45:55.160 --> 00:45:56.960 And what are you leaving the country? 00:45:59.100 --> 00:46:02.340 Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I've already left. 00:46:02.340 --> 00:46:06.500 I mean, that had to be your plan, Bozo. 00:46:06.560 --> 00:46:10.520 I mean, you know, look, hey, let me get like, you know, a hundred grand and 00:46:10.520 --> 00:46:13.340 let me just, this is my final act before I flee the country. 00:46:13.940 --> 00:46:21.060 Yeah. And the excuses from these people on these videos is just dumbfounding. 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:26.180 And these people who still like, there was one video I watched of this woman 00:46:26.180 --> 00:46:30.380 who's like, okay, look, I am going to talk to a lawyer. 00:46:30.900 --> 00:46:33.860 I'm i'm going up right now i have an appointment i'm gonna 00:46:33.860 --> 00:46:38.300 go talk to a lawyer and because all you people on the internet who are replying 00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:43.520 to me telling me that you know this was a crime and i did something wrong well 00:46:43.520 --> 00:46:47.800 you guys aren't lawyers you don't know the law so i'm gonna go talk to a real 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.940 lawyer about it uh and she didn't post another video after that. 00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.420 You know you don't have to be a fucking lawyer to realize that something is a crime. 00:47:00.420 --> 00:47:05.380 Yes several people replied to that and one of them was like you know actually 00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:14.020 i am a lawyer i am a you know i'm specifically a lawyer who specializes in financial fraud and, 00:47:15.100 --> 00:47:18.820 Yeah, you better go talk to that lawyer. And I'm sure the lawyers, 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.840 for the reason there are no more videos, at least there weren't as of last night 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:27.360 when I checked, the first damn thing the lawyer is going to say is shut the fuck up. 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:33.200 You know, and the lawyer is going to say, look, you are going to jail. 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:37.980 I'll see if I can bring it down as low as I can, but sorry, you're going to jail. 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:43.520 They got you completely. You know, we now just need to minimize the damage. 00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:46.980 Edge or like we said yeah hope like chase is 00:47:46.980 --> 00:47:54.520 from a from a pure pr perspective chase would be well served by going light 00:47:54.520 --> 00:47:59.140 on the small time players who were clearly right right right you know so so 00:47:59.140 --> 00:48:04.040 maybe they'll get lucky but like other people are like no chase is going to throw the book out, 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.260 chase has no no i'm sure. 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:12.480 That no i'm sure that the people who are like look if you pay back the money 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.300 you know but you know because it happens that people get overdrafted you have to pay. 00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:21.200 There were back money there were a few people who posted that said they did 00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:27.620 this and they got a notice from chase saying they have to fix the negative balance 00:48:27.620 --> 00:48:31.260 they've got 30 days to fix the negative balance before chase goes after them. 00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:36.680 Exactly so yeah if you do it quickly enough it's like you know no harm no foul. 00:48:36.680 --> 00:48:40.700 Yeah they'll add some fines just to be clear right but yeah yeah 00:48:40.780 --> 00:48:43.880 yeah yeah yeah you're gonna pay back what you stole plus 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.840 some but you know right maybe you can 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.440 avoid going to jail if you fix it quick but like 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.820 and you know if you know 00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.460 i was gonna say if any of them were smart none of them are 00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:59.120 smart or they wouldn't have done this but like if you 00:48:59.120 --> 00:49:02.120 took the money but didn't spend it 00:49:02.120 --> 00:49:04.920 go deposit it right back 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:11.200 right now right right now but like if you got got the money and just like spent 00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:20.060 it all already you're you're fucked sorry yeah so yeah anyway anyway uh you 00:49:20.060 --> 00:49:24.660 you got another one or should we take a break and go on and you know it you know nah. 00:49:24.660 --> 00:49:28.480 Nah yeah take a break and you you gotta pick i did the picking. 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:35.520 You did the picking it was a very exciting picking um exiting exiting yes as 00:49:35.520 --> 00:49:41.920 you always say okay i will take a break and of Of course, since we didn't do it in the first segment, 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:47.040 I'm going to do election politics and everything around Trump and Harris and 00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:48.840 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:53.180 There's other stuff going on in the world. But, you know, hey, 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.460 that's what it's going to be. We'll be back after this. 00:50:20.600 --> 00:50:25.560 You were on the floor. Tick-a-tock-a-tick-a-tock-a-tick-a-tock-a-tick-a-tock-a-tick-a-tock-a-tock. 00:50:25.560 --> 00:50:32.180 In the box that you found upon my face. 00:50:34.420 --> 00:50:36.880 What? Bye. 00:50:39.820 --> 00:50:48.820 Okay, here we are. So, we got a bunch of stuff going on. Let me go through the 00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:52.780 list just sort of in the order that it came up during the week. 00:50:53.140 --> 00:50:56.340 I did have some notes about talking about how the media is handling election 00:50:56.340 --> 00:51:00.060 2024, but we'll do that some other time. 00:51:00.700 --> 00:51:05.400 We got RFK Jr. and his ballot removal efforts. 00:51:05.600 --> 00:51:09.960 Now that he has endorsed Trump and he's trying to get off the ballot, here's the thing. 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:15.280 It's interfering with things in a variety of ways because his decision came really late. 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:18.980 Late so just as an example and 00:51:18.980 --> 00:51:22.220 his success has been different like in some in some states 00:51:22.220 --> 00:51:25.420 they've immediately said okay fine you're off the ballot in 00:51:25.420 --> 00:51:29.920 other states they've said no too late you can't pull yourself off the ballot 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:34.800 and in others it is actively going back and forth in court right now so it's 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:41.580 unclear what the result is but he he also specifically decided by the way when 00:51:41.580 --> 00:51:44.100 when he when When he quote unquote dropped out, 00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:46.360 he actually said, I'm not dropping out. 00:51:47.380 --> 00:51:53.900 I'm just endorsing Trump, and I'm going to take myself off the ballot in the 00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:57.320 states where my presence might hurt Trump, okay? 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:04.520 So he's leaving himself on the ballot in states where he feels like it wouldn't 00:52:04.520 --> 00:52:06.440 make a difference or he would hurt Harris. 00:52:07.260 --> 00:52:11.320 Okay. Which I don't think there's any place left where his presence hurts Harris. 00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:16.220 Because as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, once she took over from Biden, 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:24.620 basically all of the people who were for him as a placeholder because they didn't like Biden, 00:52:24.720 --> 00:52:30.280 but were basically more left than right, more Democrat than Trumpy, 00:52:30.300 --> 00:52:32.500 all left and went to Harris. us. 00:52:32.820 --> 00:52:37.340 So he was basically hurting Trump everywhere, but he was only really trying 00:52:37.340 --> 00:52:41.400 to get his name off the ballot in swing states where it might make a difference. 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:48.840 One example that's still, I don't think the court fights are over yet, 00:52:49.020 --> 00:52:53.100 but I was going to have, as one of the things I mentioned on the show, 00:52:53.300 --> 00:52:58.280 that this Friday, Friday, September 6th, the one that just passed, 00:52:58.520 --> 00:53:06.560 was supposed to be The first day that ballots for November actually were mailed 00:53:06.560 --> 00:53:12.100 out, the start of early voting in the first state, which would have been North Carolina, 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:16.560 the ballots were going to be mailed out, as we're recording this, yesterday. 00:53:18.200 --> 00:53:22.780 All the ballots were printed and ready to go. They were going to be mailed yesterday. 00:53:23.020 --> 00:53:26.260 And they had RFK's name on it. so when 00:53:26.260 --> 00:53:29.040 rfk originally said i want 00:53:29.040 --> 00:53:32.320 my name off north carolina this was in north carolina north 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.280 carolina said sorry no too late 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:40.120 your name is already on the ballots they're already being printed they are going 00:53:40.120 --> 00:53:49.120 out this week um rfk went to court and got a judge to say nope you got to to 00:53:49.120 --> 00:53:54.100 take him off the ballot and halted the mailing of those ballots. 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:59.960 And is the, I'm sure this is going to go through a couple more layers of court 00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:04.500 before it's final, but those, those ballots did not get mailed yesterday. 00:54:05.100 --> 00:54:11.000 And as of the current court order, all of these ballots have to be remade and 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.000 reprinted without Kennedy on them, which again, 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:25.520 And being said, these ballots are printed at the local county level because 00:54:25.520 --> 00:54:28.140 there's all kinds of local races too, right? 00:54:28.220 --> 00:54:31.120 So your ballot is not just like one ballot for North Carolina. 00:54:31.580 --> 00:54:38.560 Every local jurisdiction has a different ballot because you've got mayors and 00:54:38.560 --> 00:54:46.520 state reps and the local whatever, blah, blah, blah, all of these races on them. and and boards. 00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:48.220 And other stuff and. 00:54:48.220 --> 00:54:53.080 Apparently the way you have to do it there's also like you can't just sort of 00:54:53.080 --> 00:54:58.800 erase his name and leave a gap for whatever reasons they have you have to actually, 00:54:59.540 --> 00:55:02.440 reflow the ballot and redesign the ballot so 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.480 like if you take out that space and that makes things move 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.220 in terms of like what column they're in 00:55:08.220 --> 00:55:11.940 and where they are then you have to redo that and then you 00:55:11.940 --> 00:55:15.500 have to validate that all of the the auto 00:55:15.500 --> 00:55:18.340 ballot counting stuff that you set 00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:21.700 up is still working on the new ballot like 00:55:21.700 --> 00:55:25.760 it should right this the software is good for this stuff but they're required 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:30.740 steps where you have to validate that all of that is working before you send 00:55:30.740 --> 00:55:34.220 out the ballots in the first place because you want to catch an issue like if 00:55:34.220 --> 00:55:37.540 you've if you've done something stupid on the ballot and the software can't 00:55:37.540 --> 00:55:40.220 read it you want to catch it before you send out the ballots, right? 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:43.380 Or before you even print them in large quantities. 00:55:43.720 --> 00:55:49.660 And so you've got all of these local jurisdictions that have to do the new ballots 00:55:49.660 --> 00:55:54.140 are complaining because they did not budget for that. 00:55:54.460 --> 00:55:58.780 And this is going to cost across the state of North Carolina millions and millions 00:55:58.780 --> 00:56:03.520 of dollars to redo the ballots at this stage that was not budgeted for. 00:56:03.580 --> 00:56:07.080 So they're They're scrambling for money. They're scrambling to figure out how to do it. 00:56:07.260 --> 00:56:10.800 And you can see why they might not want to do this. 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:17.180 Because it was just too, like, literally, pallets of ballots were ready to go into the mail. 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.700 Like, and so they're fighting over that. 00:56:21.860 --> 00:56:26.300 But, like, you know, I was going to say, you know, the election has started. 00:56:26.720 --> 00:56:29.980 Ballots are out. People are starting to vote already. 00:56:30.540 --> 00:56:33.460 But no, because it's been delayed by RFK Jr. 00:56:33.980 --> 00:56:37.200 There are a few other states that weren't quite as dramatic as North Carolina, 00:56:37.460 --> 00:56:41.120 but similar battles are going on because deadlines were missed, 00:56:41.160 --> 00:56:43.660 but RFK is trying to get judges to say, do it anyway. 00:56:44.100 --> 00:56:47.760 He's saying, I can't be forced to be on the ballot against my will, 00:56:47.980 --> 00:56:49.920 you know, stuff like that. 00:56:51.080 --> 00:56:55.340 So anyway, that's the RFK thing. Any thoughts? No, well. 00:56:56.980 --> 00:57:00.180 Well, I mean, I think that at this point, 00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:05.380 if it's too late, it's too late. It is what it is. 00:57:05.460 --> 00:57:08.840 I mean, there's not much else that he could do. I mean, he decided to do this, 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.100 to withdraw from the ballot way, way, way too late down the road. 00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:18.640 So, well, but apparently he's getting like some sympathetic judges in some states 00:57:18.640 --> 00:57:22.300 are saying, yeah, I know you're past the deadline, but you know, 00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:24.120 it's going to have to be changed anyway. 00:57:24.120 --> 00:57:27.520 Way and the states are having to scramble to do it and or 00:57:27.520 --> 00:57:30.460 pay for appeals and so 00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:33.120 regardless there's some delay here like there's some 00:57:33.120 --> 00:57:36.080 early voting that could have been happening as early as 00:57:36.080 --> 00:57:38.900 now that is not going to 00:57:38.900 --> 00:57:41.800 happen quite yet of course this is still i 00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.800 mean my god it's september it's the 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.360 beginning of september you know right i 00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.640 mean i am i am back i am fine with 00:57:51.640 --> 00:57:54.340 like having a voting period that is 00:57:54.340 --> 00:57:57.140 not a single day like the idea of early voting i have no 00:57:57.140 --> 00:58:01.140 problem with it but two months is is 00:58:01.140 --> 00:58:07.380 still yeah it's pretty long like okay yeah um but there's more states coming 00:58:07.380 --> 00:58:12.200 online like within the next week two weeks they're going to be a bunch of states 00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:17.340 that are already sending out their earliest early vote stuff you know even in 00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:18.760 north carolina like this was 00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:23.300 specifically the people who had registered for vote by mail, 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.060 which in North Carolina. 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:30.400 Even at the height of the pandemic, was only like 10% or something like that. 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:34.160 And now is more like 5%, 5% of the vote. 00:58:34.540 --> 00:58:39.080 And regular in-person early vote is later in the process. 00:58:39.340 --> 00:58:44.780 So we're talking small numbers that early vote in September. 00:58:45.160 --> 00:58:51.420 Once we get to October, it starts getting huge, but like, but yeah, so we'll see. 00:58:51.500 --> 00:58:52.080 Yeah. Uh. 00:58:53.470 --> 00:58:53.810 Yes. 00:58:54.570 --> 00:58:55.010 Yeah. 00:58:55.430 --> 00:58:58.610 Oh, okay. I thought you were going to say something. You were like making a noise. I know. 00:58:58.650 --> 00:59:01.910 No, no, no. Oh, I'm just, I'm sorry. My body is grunting. 00:59:02.790 --> 00:59:05.970 Okay. Next up. 00:59:06.650 --> 00:59:09.990 That's election tangential. Anyway, I, 00:59:10.090 --> 00:59:15.290 I haven't followed this in detail, but I thought I'd be remiss in not mentioning 00:59:15.290 --> 00:59:22.190 the DOJ did an indictment based on another Russian influence operation. 00:59:22.190 --> 00:59:28.050 Where apparently through a number of intermediary organizations, 00:59:28.490 --> 00:59:33.390 basically the Russians were paying a whole bunch of conservative influencers, 00:59:33.870 --> 00:59:36.130 specifically MAGA type influencers, 00:59:36.610 --> 00:59:44.250 all kinds of money to increase their alignment with what the Russians wanted 00:59:44.250 --> 00:59:46.970 to project and to get their message out there. 00:59:46.970 --> 00:59:50.550 Some of this was through RT. Some of it was elsewhere. 00:59:51.150 --> 00:59:55.670 You got a whole bunch of these people like Tim Pool, I think is the biggest 00:59:55.670 --> 00:59:57.610 name that would be recognized. 00:59:58.030 --> 01:00:02.070 There are a bunch of folks that unless you are embedded in, you know, 01:00:02.070 --> 01:00:07.630 the right wing sort of online culture, we probably don't know. 01:00:07.710 --> 01:00:10.690 They're not like the big ones who are on TV and stuff for the most part. 01:00:10.690 --> 01:00:13.570 But like a bunch of them are like we're the 01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:17.650 victims here we had no idea we 01:00:17.650 --> 01:00:22.850 had no idea that this money was coming from russia and we you know whatever 01:00:22.850 --> 01:00:28.250 and you know in some cases maybe they are stupid enough maybe it's like the 01:00:28.250 --> 01:00:35.030 chase glitch people they're just really idiots uh in other cases it's like okay come on you knew no. 01:00:35.030 --> 01:00:36.410 It's just so stupid. 01:00:36.410 --> 01:00:40.550 And also they're like oh i am such a victim. 01:00:40.630 --> 01:00:46.250 I was getting $100,000 a month and I just didn't look into where it was coming from. I'm such a victim. 01:00:48.110 --> 01:00:50.410 I mean, Sam, I mean, did you check our Patreon? 01:00:53.950 --> 01:00:55.170 We weren't getting paid. 01:00:56.310 --> 01:00:59.870 Where's our hundred thousand a month from the Russians? I mean, come on. 01:00:59.930 --> 01:01:00.530 All right. 01:01:00.790 --> 01:01:06.490 You know, now they, they, for the most, like, correct. 01:01:06.950 --> 01:01:09.710 Like, like I said, I haven't been following this to the degree I should have. 01:01:10.390 --> 01:01:14.690 Are they indicting these actual influencers or just the intermediaries who were paying them? 01:01:15.210 --> 01:01:21.650 I don't know. No, I know I saw the mentions and I saw the people involved, 01:01:21.970 --> 01:01:25.530 but I must admit that I did not delve into the details of it. 01:01:25.590 --> 01:01:29.510 I honestly didn't care enough to look into the details. 01:01:30.510 --> 01:01:35.930 I was just like, no, it just wasn't. So it was like, I think I read it and I 01:01:35.930 --> 01:01:38.730 kind of like, gee, what a fucking surprise. Not. 01:01:38.950 --> 01:01:39.390 Yeah. 01:01:39.510 --> 01:01:40.310 I mean, what the hell? 01:01:40.310 --> 01:01:46.250 Well, and the other thing that the DOJ has said is like they've done this indictment 01:01:46.250 --> 01:01:52.410 on this Russian influence operation, but they've said like, look, they are not alone. 01:01:53.110 --> 01:01:53.650 Right. 01:01:53.710 --> 01:01:59.650 The Chinese are doing this. The Iranians are doing it. 01:01:59.850 --> 01:02:03.090 There were a number of other countries doing it. Yeah, practically. 01:02:03.650 --> 01:02:07.510 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if every country is doing it. 01:02:07.510 --> 01:02:12.670 You know even even like little bitty countries that don't have that much money 01:02:12.670 --> 01:02:16.970 to spend they're going to do a little bit like try to try to influence the americans 01:02:16.970 --> 01:02:21.410 to like us more i don't know and of course i'm sure we're doing it all over 01:02:21.410 --> 01:02:24.870 the world as well yeah and like this how. 01:02:25.450 --> 01:02:32.870 I i think that we the way that we do these are different but but are we you know, 01:02:33.820 --> 01:02:36.720 going and like obviously trying to 01:02:36.720 --> 01:02:39.620 spread a message that is you know favorable 01:02:39.620 --> 01:02:43.440 favorable to our interests absolutely but in 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:47.880 my you know what i from what i've seen it's more stuff like the straight up 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:53.460 like stuff like well voice of america all this other stuff that we we we put 01:02:53.460 --> 01:02:58.080 you know that we you know we we put these stories out there and so forth and 01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:00.160 we we spread it we do the public stuff. 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:04.520 But I guarantee you we're doing the covert stuff as well. 01:03:05.100 --> 01:03:11.160 The thing is that whenever we are doing covert, it's not in the same brazen 01:03:11.160 --> 01:03:14.560 method in terms of, hey, let me find that Twitter guy over there. 01:03:14.620 --> 01:03:19.860 Let me just give him $100,000 a month kind of thing. Probably something more subtle. 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:28.300 Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if we take people People who are influencers 01:03:28.300 --> 01:03:35.540 across the world who we think are promoting messages that we like. 01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:41.400 And to be clear, this is slightly different from telling them what to say. 01:03:41.620 --> 01:03:46.520 But instead, it is finding people who are already saying things that we like. 01:03:46.660 --> 01:03:48.480 And I think that's what the Russians were doing as well. 01:03:48.820 --> 01:03:53.800 And supporting them. Making it easier for them to get out their message. 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:55.060 And I mean financially as well. 01:03:55.060 --> 01:03:55.460 Patreon. 01:03:56.040 --> 01:03:56.560 Patreon. 01:03:57.340 --> 01:03:58.300 Patreon them. 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:05.680 Yeah. Dump some money into their Patreon. Say that, hey, we like what you're 01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:11.680 doing and in order to help you do more of it, we're going to give you X amount 01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:13.300 per month. I'm sure we will. 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:21.000 And some of it publicly and some of it secretly. I'm sure. 01:04:21.380 --> 01:04:29.780 So this is happening all over the place, but apparently just in terms of US stuff, like, 01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:35.280 I mean, I guess this is part of the goal, too, of like, make it so nobody trusts anything. 01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:43.780 But really, I mean, there's no way to, in a good way, know, hey, 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.340 is what you are seeing really truly authentic? 01:04:47.980 --> 01:04:51.300 Or is it some part of some organized influence campaign? 01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:57.820 Either domestic or foreign. You know, it's like, I don't know. 01:04:57.820 --> 01:05:04.320 Unless it's like a particular individual that for some reason you know a lot about and trust. 01:05:04.500 --> 01:05:10.120 I don't know. And even then, like who the hell knows what's going on in their private finances? 01:05:10.120 --> 01:05:10.600 Who knows? 01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:15.580 So we know nothing. So part of 01:05:15.580 --> 01:05:23.940 that is like a lot of this puts stuff out there or helps get it boosted. 01:05:23.940 --> 01:05:31.780 But this is where it comes to you know when you're looking at stuff you have to also be evaluating. 01:05:32.520 --> 01:05:39.760 Have some sort of method for cross-checking and like i admit sometimes i'm better 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:43.480 at this and sometimes i'm worse and it depends on how much i trust the source 01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:48.540 and if if my trust is misplaced i can get fooled and a you know a few times 01:05:48.540 --> 01:05:51.200 i've posted stuff that later i'm like oh crap that was 01:05:51.240 --> 01:05:54.460 like bullshit you know and then but alpha 01:05:54.460 --> 01:05:57.340 bag we did not 01:05:57.340 --> 01:06:00.380 fall for alpha bank okay on this show we 01:06:00.380 --> 01:06:03.720 consistently said that alpha bank says bullshit it 01:06:03.720 --> 01:06:07.960 sounds yeah but yeah you know and this is the again coming back to the chase 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:14.680 glitch if it sounds too good to be true it probably is right you know and you 01:06:14.680 --> 01:06:21.260 know even like i'll go back to the the the steel dossier on on donald Trump. 01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:25.520 I think there's a lot of it that was true. 01:06:25.640 --> 01:06:30.500 There's a lot of it that was not true. There's even more that's never been verified. 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:36.960 But I think what we do know convincingly at this point is that it was essentially 01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:41.700 stuff that the Russians were intentionally trying to get out there to confuse the issue. 01:06:43.540 --> 01:06:45.760 Yeah, I, 01:06:47.410 --> 01:06:54.390 Disinformation campaigns work now, especially if you go for the stuff that just 01:06:54.390 --> 01:06:59.230 seems plausible, like it matches the narrative. It matches what you think might be true. 01:07:01.850 --> 01:07:07.690 And so and the Steele dossier was explicitly framed as these are just the rumors 01:07:07.690 --> 01:07:08.910 we're hearing on the street. 01:07:09.270 --> 01:07:12.350 Like we haven't been able to verify one way or another. 01:07:13.450 --> 01:07:18.050 Right. And, you know, like I said, it falls in, there were some true things, 01:07:18.150 --> 01:07:22.730 there were some false things and the vast majority and the vast majority are 01:07:22.730 --> 01:07:25.510 things that just can't be proven one way or the other. 01:07:25.630 --> 01:07:29.110 It's just, you know, no, they haven't been verified. They haven't been proven 01:07:29.110 --> 01:07:30.470 false either. They just can't be. 01:07:30.690 --> 01:07:33.590 That's going to be the, Sam, that's going to be the October surprise. 01:07:33.990 --> 01:07:35.370 The pee pee tape finally. 01:07:35.370 --> 01:07:44.330 You know, if the P-Tape comes out next month, that would – or indictments about Alpha Bank. 01:07:45.110 --> 01:07:46.310 Oh, there you go. 01:07:46.370 --> 01:07:50.010 Alpha Bank has proved to be true and – no. 01:07:51.190 --> 01:07:58.030 I don't know. There probably is a P-Tape, right? There may be. There may be. 01:07:59.870 --> 01:08:03.450 The P-Tape is one of those things where he is so germaphobic. 01:08:03.450 --> 01:08:08.530 Like it almost seems like nah that that doesn't quite match he's he's crazy 01:08:08.530 --> 01:08:13.770 he is crazy he is crazy anyway uh enough of the you. 01:08:13.770 --> 01:08:16.790 Got rfk jr like sawing heads off whales. 01:08:16.790 --> 01:08:20.090 That there was there was 01:08:20.090 --> 01:08:23.010 yeah he saw the head off whale he did the thing with the bear i saw 01:08:23.010 --> 01:08:25.910 a video this morning i don't know if it was new 01:08:25.910 --> 01:08:29.030 or just resurfaced but like it had him like 01:08:29.030 --> 01:08:31.970 in like some room somewhere and he pans his 01:08:31.970 --> 01:08:35.350 like phone camera to the side and there's like this grasshopper 01:08:35.350 --> 01:08:38.710 sitting on like a couch and he's like look this 01:08:38.710 --> 01:08:41.850 thing this is cool it's a it's a so-and-so 01:08:41.850 --> 01:08:45.690 grasshopper i forget the he identified like the 01:08:45.690 --> 01:08:48.710 species of grasshopper whatever right and and 01:08:48.710 --> 01:08:51.470 then he just reaches out and grabs it and he 01:08:51.470 --> 01:08:54.230 holds it up to the camera like in his fist he's 01:08:54.230 --> 01:08:57.030 holding the grasshopper and he care it looks like 01:08:57.030 --> 01:08:59.890 he like did it in such a way that the grasshopper was fine 01:08:59.890 --> 01:09:03.550 the grasshopper was not in distress but he was holding the grasshopper blah 01:09:03.550 --> 01:09:07.650 blah blah up to the camera and talking about the grasshopper and then some guy 01:09:07.650 --> 01:09:12.490 cuts into the video because this was somebody reposting it as like dude you 01:09:12.490 --> 01:09:18.630 know as soon as the camera is off he's gonna eat that thing oh god, 01:09:21.650 --> 01:09:26.410 because he just now has that reputation right you know he's gonna eat the dog 01:09:26.410 --> 01:09:31.690 yeah he's he's he he ended up leaving the bear in central park but apparently 01:09:31.690 --> 01:09:33.870 his original plan was to take it home and eat it, 01:09:35.340 --> 01:09:38.160 I don't know if he was going to eat the whale head or not. 01:09:38.300 --> 01:09:42.280 But I will get friends with Christie. No, I'm yeah. 01:09:42.380 --> 01:09:48.520 With the yeah. Yeah, probably is. Anyway, enough, enough about the Russian influence op. 01:09:48.700 --> 01:09:53.720 There's it's going on. There were indictments. A lot of conservative hanger 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:59.800 honors of the constant grift types were implicated in it. 01:10:00.180 --> 01:10:03.040 And there's a lot more going on that there haven't been indictments on. 01:10:03.160 --> 01:10:09.820 And it's just out there. and be as careful as you can, but, you know, whatever. Okay, next. 01:10:10.860 --> 01:10:16.800 The Trump-DC case is finally moving again. You know, so a schedule was set. 01:10:17.940 --> 01:10:24.060 There will be no mini, there's no mini trial scheduled at this point. 01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:29.960 But there are, there's a deadline in late September for the special counsel 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:34.740 to submit briefings. This is all on like what is or is not changed on the immunity 01:10:34.740 --> 01:10:37.080 because of the SCOTUS immunity decision. 01:10:37.700 --> 01:10:43.220 Obviously, the special counsel already did the superseding indictment that we talked about last week. 01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:48.660 But now they have to make their arguments about like what is what is affected, 01:10:48.900 --> 01:10:51.280 what is not affected and why blah, blah, blah. 01:10:51.460 --> 01:10:58.040 All of that is in. And there is expected to be evidence included in these arguments. 01:10:58.100 --> 01:11:02.700 So not just here's the legal argument, but also here's how it applies to specific 01:11:02.700 --> 01:11:04.880 evidence that we intend to use in the case. 01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:11.260 And then a week or so after the special counsel's deadline on that is the deadline. 01:11:11.380 --> 01:11:13.660 Maybe it's two weeks. I forget. Something like that. Early October, 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:21.000 there is a deadline for the defense to submit their thoughts on this whole issue, 01:11:21.120 --> 01:11:23.480 including rebuttals to anything the special counsel said. 01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:27.340 And then there will be an actual hearing on the issue, like, 01:11:27.420 --> 01:11:30.440 I don't know, a week before the election or two weeks before the like, 01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:32.160 it's very like end of October. 01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:36.560 And so that's, so that's moving again. 01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:41.380 And there's going to be, you know, there were a lot of people pushing for like 01:11:41.380 --> 01:11:45.260 a whole little mini trial calling witnesses and stuff before the election. 01:11:45.480 --> 01:11:49.520 The judge was not like, this is not the direction she's going. 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:53.260 She's All of these are going to be done in legal briefings, and then there's 01:11:53.260 --> 01:11:58.760 going to be perhaps a hearing in front of her, but not like all the witnesses 01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:00.300 and stuff. That's all going to be in documents. 01:12:00.480 --> 01:12:07.820 She will decide at that point if she feels she needs that kind of thing before the real trial. 01:12:09.270 --> 01:12:13.350 But, well, not only before the real Trump, before she decides. 01:12:13.690 --> 01:12:16.390 Because the thing that's going to happen on this, by the way, 01:12:16.470 --> 01:12:20.770 just in case it's not clear to everybody, is she has to decide what's in and 01:12:20.770 --> 01:12:23.550 what's out and how she's going to treat all of this stuff. 01:12:23.950 --> 01:12:29.730 But then no matter what she decides, well, especially if she decides against 01:12:29.730 --> 01:12:34.370 Donald Trump, but pretty much no matter what she does, it's going to get appealed again. 01:12:34.430 --> 01:12:38.270 And it's going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court again before it actually 01:12:38.270 --> 01:12:42.470 comes back down. So she also said she's not even going to bother trying to set 01:12:42.470 --> 01:12:47.330 an actual trial date because she's sure that whatever she does here, 01:12:47.430 --> 01:12:48.470 it's going to get appealed. 01:12:48.830 --> 01:12:54.210 And so there's going to be another long delay while this goes up to Supreme Court and back. 01:12:54.990 --> 01:13:00.930 So basically the schedule of this is, you know, we're going to have that hearing in late October. 01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:05.250 She's probably not going to make a decision until after the election sometime in November. 01:13:05.510 --> 01:13:08.130 And then whatever she does, it's going to get appealed again. 01:13:08.290 --> 01:13:12.330 And then we're probably waiting another six to nine months before this thing 01:13:12.330 --> 01:13:14.670 could come back to her again to continue. 01:13:14.890 --> 01:13:21.170 So this, and that's assuming that Donald Trump doesn't win and make the whole thing go away. 01:13:21.910 --> 01:13:27.030 You know, so at the moment it's moving and there are a whole bunch of steps 01:13:27.030 --> 01:13:32.710 and documents and things like that that we're going to see over the next two months. 01:13:33.110 --> 01:13:37.710 But it is what it is. It's moving. Things are happening. 01:13:37.970 --> 01:13:42.130 There's news related to it. There's going to be more news related about it before the election. 01:13:42.130 --> 01:13:44.970 But we're not going to get to like 01:13:44.970 --> 01:13:48.430 even assuming harris wins we're not 01:13:48.430 --> 01:13:51.570 going to get to an actual trial of donald 01:13:51.570 --> 01:13:55.530 trump on the january 6th stuff till probably 01:13:55.530 --> 01:14:02.030 late next year like not even not even early next year probably late next year 01:14:02.030 --> 01:14:07.370 like so these you know again we've talked before about how frustrating like 01:14:07.370 --> 01:14:12.290 all four of these cases but also just apparently our legal system in general It's so fucking slow. 01:14:12.490 --> 01:14:16.210 And Donald Trump is a master of making it go even slower. 01:14:16.630 --> 01:14:20.790 So that he's definitely shown himself at that. Absolutely. 01:14:21.370 --> 01:14:27.030 OK, since since we're since we're talking his legal cases, the other one was 01:14:27.030 --> 01:14:31.050 the sentencing in the New York trial was also delayed till after the election. 01:14:31.170 --> 01:14:38.750 It was supposed to be like the 18th of September. and the steps were once again 01:14:38.750 --> 01:14:43.710 in this one, Donald Trump is also saying, hey, we need to figure out how the 01:14:43.710 --> 01:14:46.110 immunity decision changes this. 01:14:46.530 --> 01:14:51.530 And there was going to be, you know, they're submitting their briefs on that. 01:14:51.570 --> 01:14:52.610 I believe that's already done. 01:14:52.770 --> 01:15:00.490 The judge was going to give his answer to how the immunity stuff affected this 01:15:00.490 --> 01:15:05.090 case, because in this case, Donald Trump is saying that while While the crime 01:15:05.090 --> 01:15:07.650 itself wasn't necessarily covered by immunity, 01:15:07.990 --> 01:15:13.330 they used evidence that was covered by immunity, so the whole thing needs to be thrown out. 01:15:14.040 --> 01:15:18.700 Um right so they're and i know that they're going through it and trying to i 01:15:18.700 --> 01:15:22.320 mean they they did go through all of that and try to figure out what to leave 01:15:22.320 --> 01:15:23.920 what well no that's the that's. 01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.860 The january 6th case we're talking new york now in the. 01:15:26.860 --> 01:15:31.320 Oh you talk no no no yeah oh that yeah yeah i forgot that yeah this guy you 01:15:31.320 --> 01:15:36.280 forgot i switched so many i forgot yeah oh so but it's just so many of them 01:15:36.280 --> 01:15:39.680 moved all of a sudden this week yeah once and. 01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:43.640 So the new york one you know they were he was going to make the decision on 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:52.380 whether or not the fact that there was some evidence included that could now be argued to be immune. 01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:55.580 There are two questions there. Was that evidence actually immune? 01:15:55.780 --> 01:15:59.900 And if it was, was it substantial enough that it affected the verdict and you 01:15:59.900 --> 01:16:01.840 have to throw out the proceedings so far? 01:16:02.260 --> 01:16:06.440 And so he was going to make that decision on the 16th and then have sentencing 01:16:06.440 --> 01:16:08.940 on the 18th, assuming he didn't dismiss the case. 01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:14.000 But now he's delayed both of those the steps. I expected, frankly, 01:16:14.160 --> 01:16:16.400 that the sentencing would not happen. 01:16:16.460 --> 01:16:22.820 I'd said on the show before that what I expected to happen was that the judge 01:16:22.820 --> 01:16:26.560 would rule against Donald Trump and say, 01:16:26.700 --> 01:16:32.380 no, whatever issues with the evidence were not substantial enough to affect 01:16:32.380 --> 01:16:35.160 the verdict, so we're going to proceed with sentencing. 01:16:35.320 --> 01:16:40.520 And I expected that at that point, Trump would appeal and then everything else 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.080 would be delayed and the sentencing would be put out. 01:16:44.540 --> 01:16:50.640 And apparently the judge has some ability to say whether they can do that intermediary 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.320 appeal or whether they would have to wait. 01:16:52.440 --> 01:16:56.440 But the judge just punted the whole damn thing. He's not even... 01:16:58.020 --> 01:17:01.300 I did not expect the actual sentencing to happen before the election. 01:17:01.420 --> 01:17:02.660 I expected that to be delayed. 01:17:02.820 --> 01:17:08.500 I did expect that the judge would actually make the decision on whether or not 01:17:08.500 --> 01:17:12.220 this evidence tainted the case enough to dismiss it before the election. 01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:15.200 But no, he pushed that out into November too. 01:17:15.620 --> 01:17:21.600 So he's basically like, I'm not deciding anything on this case until we get 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:25.780 to November, which is in sharp contrast. And he said explicitly, 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.220 like, this is because of the election. 01:17:28.500 --> 01:17:36.280 I don't want any appearance whatsoever that I am making decisions in a way that 01:17:36.280 --> 01:17:39.040 my purpose is to influence the election. 01:17:39.300 --> 01:17:42.140 So we're just going to wait until after the election happens. 01:17:42.140 --> 01:17:48.040 Whereas Judge Chunkin on the January 6th case said exactly the opposite. 01:17:48.280 --> 01:17:52.720 She's like, I don't care about the election. The election is not my concern. 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:57.040 My concern is these charges, and so I'm going to set a schedule accordingly. 01:17:57.040 --> 01:17:59.760 Like the Trump's lawyer kept saying we need 01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.480 to delay all this stuff till after the election and she's like 01:18:02.480 --> 01:18:05.960 no no not doing that and people 01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:10.480 have said the cases are a little bit different based on the phase they are like 01:18:10.480 --> 01:18:17.360 one is pre-trial one is post-trial etc but fundamentally I feel like the same 01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:23.200 arguments could apply and they've taken diametrically opposed positions Chunkin was like. 01:18:23.900 --> 01:18:30.100 I, I am responsible. Like it would, the political thing would be if I let the 01:18:30.100 --> 01:18:33.780 election and the fact that Donald Trump is a candidate in an election affect 01:18:33.780 --> 01:18:38.080 me, that would be being influenced by the politics of the scenario. 01:18:38.220 --> 01:18:40.380 I have to treat him just like any other defendant. 01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:44.500 And like for any other defendant, I don't care what's going on in their job. 01:18:44.740 --> 01:18:48.820 I don't care what's going on in their personal life. That's not part of my problem. 01:18:48.940 --> 01:18:53.680 I'm setting the schedule for all of this stuff just as, Hey, 01:18:53.860 --> 01:18:58.640 you're a person, you're on trial, you've got these crimes, and this is the amount 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.320 of time we need in order to resolve the issues we need to resolve. 01:19:02.780 --> 01:19:08.340 Whereas the New York judge was like, I really don't want to appear like I am 01:19:08.340 --> 01:19:14.600 trying to put my thumb on the election, and so I'm not doing anything more until after the election. 01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:21.820 So, and part of the New York judge's argument as well, and I don't know if this 01:19:21.820 --> 01:19:28.820 was a mistake on the part of the prosecutors in New York or actually intentional on their part. 01:19:28.820 --> 01:19:35.120 When asked for their, like Trump asked for this to be delayed and the New York 01:19:35.120 --> 01:19:38.640 prosecutors had to put in a brief with their opinion as well. 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:44.640 And rather than argue not to delay, they just said, we leave it up to the hands of the judge. 01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.020 And I heard some people at the time praise that as like, look, 01:19:50.160 --> 01:19:52.300 this is the right thing to do. 01:19:52.440 --> 01:19:54.340 They don't want to appear like political. 01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:56.660 They don't want want to put their thumb on the scale either. 01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:02.660 But the judge basically said, look, from what the prosecutors said and the way 01:20:02.660 --> 01:20:07.300 they said it, I think they actually agree and want the delay too. So we're delaying. 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:16.620 So I heard someone speculate that another factor in all this may also be safety 01:20:16.620 --> 01:20:19.960 because a whole bunch of the people involved, 01:20:20.240 --> 01:20:26.580 I mean, the judge and the prosecution have had steady streams of death threats 01:20:26.580 --> 01:20:28.340 throughout this whole process. 01:20:28.340 --> 01:20:36.020 And maybe they're just actually worried about like if the judge actually sentenced 01:20:36.020 --> 01:20:43.080 Donald Trump to anything other than, you know, a fine and a short probation or something like that, 01:20:43.160 --> 01:20:49.760 that, you know, the judge and his family would actually be in physical danger. 01:20:49.900 --> 01:20:52.540 I don't know if that was part of it or not. He certainly didn't say so, 01:20:52.640 --> 01:21:00.020 but I've heard that speculation as well. Well, so, so we are not having a sentence for Donald Trump. 01:21:00.120 --> 01:21:03.480 And the one other thing I'll say on that is there, there's, there were also 01:21:03.480 --> 01:21:07.840 people talking about, well, you know, can you imagine if he actually went to 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:08.700 jail before the election? 01:21:08.820 --> 01:21:12.480 He was never going to go to jail before the election. It would have been stayed 01:21:12.480 --> 01:21:19.320 pending appeal regardless, but having, knowing what he was sentenced to might 01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:21.420 make a difference to some people. 01:21:21.420 --> 01:21:28.680 People but in terms of the political effect it's unclear what it would be on the one hand yeah okay. 01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:34.400 Convicted criminal sentenced to jail whatever presumably there are at least 01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:39.260 a few people who would be turned off by that who are currently trump supporters 01:21:39.260 --> 01:21:43.460 but on the other hand it would probably energize and enrage a bunch of them 01:21:43.460 --> 01:21:47.260 make it make them want to vote for him even more so So what effect it would 01:21:47.260 --> 01:21:49.180 have, if any, is completely unclear. 01:21:50.120 --> 01:21:52.220 Any thoughts, Yvonne, or have you fallen asleep? 01:21:53.660 --> 01:21:57.220 Or are you gone? Yvonne? Yvonne? 01:21:59.240 --> 01:21:59.680 Hello? 01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:05.560 Are you there? 01:22:06.660 --> 01:22:08.220 Can you hear me? 01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:11.080 I can hear you. Did you fall asleep, Mr. Bo? 01:22:12.480 --> 01:22:13.920 I'm talking now. What? 01:22:16.160 --> 01:22:18.500 I'm talking now. I'm running out of energy. 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:25.160 Okay. So you were falling asleep. Okay. Okay, we'll wrap this up pretty quickly then. 01:22:25.380 --> 01:22:31.580 Feel free to nap some more and just chime in if anything entices you. 01:22:34.200 --> 01:22:38.020 There's not much to say in terms of any of these cases right now, 01:22:38.080 --> 01:22:40.360 other than the summary that you gave, to be honest. 01:22:40.500 --> 01:22:43.880 I mean, we had a lot of activity and things all of a sudden happened. 01:22:44.200 --> 01:22:48.960 On these two, and the other two were indefinitely paused. 01:22:49.120 --> 01:22:52.460 The one in Florida, of course, was dismissed. and that's 01:22:52.460 --> 01:22:55.240 being appealed but the schedule for that appeal is going 01:22:55.240 --> 01:22:58.180 to last months it'll be a long time till we get 01:22:58.180 --> 01:23:01.260 you know any sort of result on whether or 01:23:01.260 --> 01:23:04.580 not the florida one gets reinstated and whether or not it 01:23:04.580 --> 01:23:10.100 goes back to judge cannon or to somebody else and the one in georgia is similarly 01:23:10.100 --> 01:23:18.440 like on a long pause while the decision to let fanny willis stay on that case 01:23:18.440 --> 01:23:22.060 is appealed and then it's also going to take months and months and months. 01:23:22.180 --> 01:23:30.440 So like really the only one that was expected to actually come to anywhere approaching 01:23:30.440 --> 01:23:35.480 a conclusion was the New York one and that's punted towards late November now. 01:23:36.540 --> 01:23:43.380 And even then, you're going to have years of appeals on all of these even after you get sentencing. 01:23:43.500 --> 01:23:48.280 But the New York one was the closest to actually getting to an end point And 01:23:48.280 --> 01:23:49.860 it's pushed back a couple months too. 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:56.480 So, you know, like we had, you know, one of our annual prediction show things 01:23:56.480 --> 01:24:00.760 was how many of these four cases would actually get to a conclusion this year. 01:24:01.540 --> 01:24:09.540 I think you said three and I said two. It looks like by the end of the year, 01:24:09.660 --> 01:24:12.700 we're talking one and that's not going to be before the election. 01:24:12.700 --> 01:24:17.940 But you might actually get to a verdict in the New York case or possibly a dismissal. 01:24:19.570 --> 01:24:23.430 At the end of November. So you will get it this year, just not before the election. 01:24:23.650 --> 01:24:26.930 And the other three, they're going to be going on for years. 01:24:27.270 --> 01:24:33.890 Like, well, again, if Harris wins, if Trump wins, these are done. 01:24:34.210 --> 01:24:39.310 Like, well, if Trump wins, the, the, he's going to dismiss the federal ones. 01:24:39.450 --> 01:24:45.610 Like the, the, the two federal ones, he will make sure the DOJ drops them as soon as he's sworn in. 01:24:45.610 --> 01:24:48.490 The state ones are more 01:24:48.490 --> 01:24:51.510 complicated because he can't dismiss those he can't 01:24:51.510 --> 01:24:54.290 order anything on those however courts in the 01:24:54.290 --> 01:24:57.210 past have on civil cases 01:24:57.210 --> 01:25:00.170 mind you but i don't i i'm almost 01:25:00.170 --> 01:25:03.210 certain they would do the same thing they basically would 01:25:03.210 --> 01:25:06.810 like if he was actually being sworn in as president would 01:25:06.810 --> 01:25:10.150 just pause the case for four years and say 01:25:10.150 --> 01:25:13.370 right we'll get back to this once he's not president anymore 01:25:13.370 --> 01:25:16.270 right so like yeah well 01:25:16.270 --> 01:25:18.950 in theory he can't dismiss the new york and 01:25:18.950 --> 01:25:21.830 georgia cases in practice i think 01:25:21.830 --> 01:25:30.610 both both cases would end up paused now if if he wins and then new york sentences 01:25:30.610 --> 01:25:37.050 him to jail anyway again it's going to be appealed and so the appeals will be 01:25:37.050 --> 01:25:41.010 paused he's He's not going to go to jail before he becomes president. 01:25:41.070 --> 01:25:45.770 He's not going to have to be president from jail, anything like that. 01:25:45.870 --> 01:25:47.770 It would just all be paused for four years. 01:25:48.110 --> 01:25:54.210 And then at the end of that, it gets resumed, assuming he even makes it through 01:25:54.210 --> 01:25:56.890 his four years. He's getting up there. Yeah. 01:25:58.190 --> 01:25:59.250 I don't know. 01:25:59.610 --> 01:26:04.270 Anyway, okay. Did I have anything else I want to make sure to mention? 01:26:04.530 --> 01:26:06.150 Hunter Biden pled guilty. 01:26:06.930 --> 01:26:07.410 Yes. 01:26:08.630 --> 01:26:09.250 Anybody care? 01:26:09.370 --> 01:26:09.810 That's it. 01:26:10.210 --> 01:26:15.770 And actually, and the important thing is this was not a plea deal with the prosecution. 01:26:16.130 --> 01:26:18.490 He is just, he just pled guilty period. 01:26:18.610 --> 01:26:21.830 He's just pled guilty and is throwing himself at the mercy of the judge. 01:26:22.110 --> 01:26:27.070 And basically the play here is you're, the judge is going to be like, 01:26:27.130 --> 01:26:31.550 you know, this is the kind of case that normally doesn't even come to trial. 01:26:32.190 --> 01:26:37.550 You know, you, you paid back the money to the IRS. This, this one's the IRS case, not the gun case. 01:26:37.910 --> 01:26:41.950 You, You paid back the money. Normally, prosecutors don't even go after that. 01:26:42.210 --> 01:26:47.710 And so he's hoping the judge will give him a suspended sentence or a light probation 01:26:47.710 --> 01:26:49.790 or something like that, and it's over or fine. 01:26:49.990 --> 01:26:53.130 You know, we'll see how that goes. 01:26:54.010 --> 01:26:57.610 Oh, one other thing to mention, which we don't need to talk a lot about, 01:26:57.710 --> 01:27:03.990 is before next time we talk, the Harris versus Trump presidential debate should 01:27:03.990 --> 01:27:05.610 have happened. It's scheduled for Tuesday. 01:27:06.010 --> 01:27:10.830 Unless there is a last minute, somebody decides not to do it after all, 01:27:10.910 --> 01:27:13.050 we expect to have that happen on Tuesday. 01:27:13.310 --> 01:27:17.410 It is the same rules as that Biden debate. 01:27:17.410 --> 01:27:22.770 So Harris had wanted to try to change it, but it had already been agreed by 01:27:22.770 --> 01:27:28.170 the Biden campaign beforehand, and Trump was not changing it because it worked 01:27:28.170 --> 01:27:29.610 well for him last time, essentially. 01:27:29.790 --> 01:27:36.670 It's no audience, and their microphones are going to be muted when it's not your turn to talk. 01:27:37.150 --> 01:27:43.830 The Biden campaign had wanted that because they thought the crowd would energize 01:27:43.830 --> 01:27:49.250 Trump. Trump turns out the crowd also would have energized Biden and he wasn't as good with no crowd. 01:27:49.430 --> 01:27:52.310 And they were also worried about Trump. 01:27:53.340 --> 01:27:59.740 Bullying and speaking over Biden and winning in that free-form engagement where 01:27:59.740 --> 01:28:02.580 they were just yelling at each other because Trump can yell louder. 01:28:02.980 --> 01:28:09.980 The Harris campaign wanted microphones on the whole time because they figured, 01:28:10.080 --> 01:28:12.520 well, yes, Trump may try to interrupt. 01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:19.140 Harris would also be able to real-time jump in and fact-check and stuff. 01:28:19.160 --> 01:28:21.900 When Trump said something wrong or stupid. 01:28:22.120 --> 01:28:25.760 She could just jump in and say something herself. She could do some interrupting. 01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:33.440 They tried to spin it as Trump's own folks are afraid of having an open mic 01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:34.940 because he might say something stupid. 01:28:35.220 --> 01:28:39.260 And I'm sure that's part of it, but a part of it was Harris wanted to interrupt herself. 01:28:39.540 --> 01:28:44.300 So apparently they've had to reshuffle some of their debate prep because they 01:28:44.300 --> 01:28:47.960 were really hoping mics would be on and they're not going to be. 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.940 So they have to adjust their approach a little bit anyway that's 01:28:50.940 --> 01:28:54.320 it we'll see how the debate goes i expect this will 01:28:54.320 --> 01:28:57.480 go better for harris than it went for biden at 01:28:57.480 --> 01:29:00.340 least i fucking hope so you know 01:29:00.340 --> 01:29:06.480 it would be horrible uh but but i think harris is pretty good at this and trump 01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:10.540 has been deteriorating further over the last couple months and doesn't seem 01:29:10.540 --> 01:29:15.040 like he really knows how the hell to handle somebody like harris And so he's 01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:17.720 been increasingly incoherent. 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:24.480 There was a long clip of him answering a question about child care policy that 01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:26.100 made no sense whatsoever. 01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:30.980 And that kind of stuff is just repeating. Trillions. 01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:31.700 Trillions. 01:29:33.150 --> 01:29:34.510 Yeah, he's somehow going to solve... 01:29:34.510 --> 01:29:35.450 It's so much money. 01:29:35.830 --> 01:29:40.590 Well, he's somehow going to solve child care because of tariffs. 01:29:41.150 --> 01:29:42.650 Tariffs. That are going to... 01:29:42.650 --> 01:29:44.950 And the deficit is going to be zero. 01:29:45.410 --> 01:29:47.030 Yeah, I mean... 01:29:47.030 --> 01:29:49.210 They're all just going to pay. 01:29:49.630 --> 01:29:57.310 Reading the whole thing, I actually think I know what it was trying to say. 01:29:59.010 --> 01:30:02.190 Being generous he was saying 01:30:02.190 --> 01:30:08.290 we're going to have such a great economy with so much extra money coming in 01:30:08.290 --> 01:30:12.750 that solving child care won't be a problem i think that's the one sentence version 01:30:12.750 --> 01:30:20.910 of what he was trying to say but the actual reality was a long rambling paragraph of 01:30:21.150 --> 01:30:25.690 nonsense and things that weren't related and things. 01:30:25.790 --> 01:30:28.710 And, and the point is not that one specific thing. 01:30:29.570 --> 01:30:33.110 Maybe I'll, I'll drop the audio of that in after this, after, 01:30:33.230 --> 01:30:37.170 after the closing music, I'll drop the audio of that in if you want to listen to it. 01:30:37.270 --> 01:30:43.090 But it's just that he's increasingly incoherent. And this is just the latest example. 01:30:43.470 --> 01:30:49.530 So I think part of what Harris is hoping is that he goes on his long rambling 01:30:49.530 --> 01:30:56.310 things of nothing, and she can jump in and appear competent and know what she's 01:30:56.310 --> 01:30:57.490 doing and blah, blah, blah. 01:30:57.790 --> 01:31:00.870 Now, whether that makes a difference to a lot of people, I don't know. 01:31:01.150 --> 01:31:07.010 Also, Trump has shown in these debates in the past that he can sort of hold 01:31:07.010 --> 01:31:10.830 it together and be reasonable for the first part of a debate. 01:31:11.440 --> 01:31:15.080 He usually doesn't make it to the end, but for the first few questions, 01:31:15.420 --> 01:31:17.780 he can usually be somewhat disciplined. 01:31:18.100 --> 01:31:22.500 He just can't make it the whole 90 minutes, and at some point, he falls apart. 01:31:23.380 --> 01:31:27.140 Well, we'll see how much medication he's able to take before this one. 01:31:27.160 --> 01:31:31.380 Well, yeah, people always speculate that that's because he's on something, and then it wears off. 01:31:32.200 --> 01:31:38.760 Right. There you go with the unfounded, unverifiable information, 01:31:40.340 --> 01:31:41.920 like misinformation, whatever. 01:31:42.260 --> 01:31:47.240 It's just like, we just put out there that Donald Trump takes drugs, 01:31:47.440 --> 01:31:49.620 performance-enhancing drugs, for the debate. 01:31:50.320 --> 01:31:55.120 There's no evidence of that. But people speculate. So, you know. 01:31:59.920 --> 01:32:03.060 Your sound just went wonky. Try that again. 01:32:03.180 --> 01:32:06.980 You can't say with absolute certainty that it's not happening either. 01:32:07.220 --> 01:32:11.180 No, you can't. Well, again, and that's your Steele dossier issue. 01:32:11.360 --> 01:32:17.000 Like so much is unverifiable. And a lot of the kinds of things that people who 01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:22.060 are pushing, you know, influence campaigns concentrate on is the things that 01:32:22.060 --> 01:32:24.860 are unverifiable one way or another but sound reasonable. 01:32:25.220 --> 01:32:30.880 So anyway, we are done. Yvonne is falling asleep. I've got a call coming up 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:32.240 with my dad momentarily. 01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:36.400 A zoom, not even a phone call. I'm doing zoom with my dad now. 01:32:37.100 --> 01:32:39.460 Um, zoom, zoom, zoom. 01:32:39.460 --> 01:32:39.620 Zoom. 01:32:40.380 --> 01:32:44.500 Oh, you, you, you remember the TV show zoom? I just, since you mentioned it, 01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:47.340 you know, I was thinking of the Mazda commercial. 01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:51.020 Oh, I remember the Mazda commercial too, but there was the zoom. 01:32:51.280 --> 01:32:52.740 Zoom, zoom. Yeah. 01:32:52.820 --> 01:32:56.600 But you were, do you remember, do you remember zoom? The TV show zoom when we 01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:59.820 were kids? No, no, no. Oh, come on. 01:33:00.100 --> 01:33:04.140 I mean, I mean, I know you watch. watched i remember ghostbusters well and you 01:33:04.140 --> 01:33:07.720 remembered three two one contact when we talked about it a while ago zoom was in this i. 01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:09.060 Remember three two one contact. 01:33:09.060 --> 01:33:17.500 Zoom was like that kind of a less a less sciencey thing but the same vibe i 01:33:17.500 --> 01:33:23.120 i would say zoom has the same vibe anyway we are done go to curmudgeons-corner.com 01:33:23.120 --> 01:33:28.160 you can find our archives you can find links to all the ways is to contact us. 01:33:28.240 --> 01:33:33.100 You can find a link to our YouTube where we're still doing live streams. 01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:40.180 This time you only saw video of me because Yvonne was afraid to come on camera because of night. 01:33:40.360 --> 01:33:40.380 Oh, God. 01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:47.220 I don't think anyone watched the live stream this time, but if you prefer video, 01:33:47.820 --> 01:33:53.080 you can show up and you can go and you can watch this on video, the unedited version. 01:33:54.400 --> 01:33:55.600 By the way, 01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:58.700 The thing we use to record this, 01:33:58.740 --> 01:34:06.340 Riverside, does auto-generated AI sort of clips or AI-generated clips. 01:34:06.460 --> 01:34:12.740 Well, the AI isn't generated us talking, but it picks clips from the show for social media sharing. 01:34:13.740 --> 01:34:17.600 And Alex really wants me to start putting some of those on TikTok. 01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:24.680 He put one up and said, hey, if this thing gets, you know, likes more than one 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:29.660 like, then, you know, we'll make an official curmudgeons corner TikTok and put 01:34:29.660 --> 01:34:30.780 some of these clips on there. 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:34.720 I don't really want to take the time and effort to do it, but like it got two likes. 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.660 So like you know let let 01:34:37.660 --> 01:34:40.700 me know if anybody one of them was you yvonne let me 01:34:40.700 --> 01:34:44.420 know if uh if anybody out there actually really would 01:34:44.420 --> 01:34:50.820 be interested in seeing an official curmudgeons corner tiktok i liked it i did 01:34:50.820 --> 01:34:56.720 you did you you liked it uh that has like little 30 second snippets of yvonne 01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:02.060 and i talking on video from these shows it's like where the ai thinks that like 01:35:02.060 --> 01:35:03.560 this 30 seconds was really 01:35:03.660 --> 01:35:07.460 cool and interesting and blah, blah, blah. And it's sometimes it's right. And sometimes it's not. 01:35:07.700 --> 01:35:11.500 If there is demand, I may do it. I'm, I don't know. 01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:16.540 I see, I made my editing process a lot shorter, but I don't want to reverse 01:35:16.540 --> 01:35:18.740 that by adding more things I'm doing. 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.900 So anyway, okay, we're done. We're done. 01:35:22.100 --> 01:35:25.520 And you can also find on there, our Patreon where at various levels, 01:35:25.620 --> 01:35:26.780 we will send you a postcard. 01:35:26.860 --> 01:35:29.960 We will send you a mug. We will talk about you on the show, whatever. 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:34.480 Ever and two dollars a month or more uh we will invite you to our commissions 01:35:34.480 --> 01:35:39.180 course slack where ivan and i and others are chatting throughout the week and 01:35:39.180 --> 01:35:42.160 sharing links ivan do you have anything from the slack you would like to share 01:35:42.160 --> 01:35:45.800 this week before we say no goodbye i. 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.260 I not this week. 01:35:47.260 --> 01:35:51.840 If we hadn't talked about it earlier i would have done the the chase glitch 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:57.240 then but then we would have ended up talking about it forever i i will i will 01:35:57.240 --> 01:36:02.280 since you are not i will do one thing from the slack which is a short one not 01:36:02.280 --> 01:36:06.800 not not starlink starliner has landed oh. 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.420 It landed it landed. 01:36:08.420 --> 01:36:12.620 Yeah without the astronauts they they left the astronauts on the space station 01:36:12.620 --> 01:36:17.680 for safety because they were not sure if it would be safe or not and they sent 01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:24.940 it back uncrewed and it apparently has landed successfully i haven't heard word 01:36:24.940 --> 01:36:27.060 if they've like examined it and it's all 01:36:27.140 --> 01:36:30.980 perfect inside and the astronauts would have been fine, but I presume so. 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:35.160 It looks like it landed essentially without major incident. 01:36:35.580 --> 01:36:40.740 There was one thruster. They deactivated before it even left the space station because it had issues. 01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:45.620 Right. And apparently there was at least one other thruster that acted up during 01:36:45.620 --> 01:36:49.120 the landing process, but they had plenty of redundancy and it landed anyway. 01:36:49.360 --> 01:36:52.580 So, but you know, you know, 01:36:53.020 --> 01:36:57.880 Whether or not Boeing's going to get another shot at this, still undetermined. 01:36:58.860 --> 01:37:05.060 Well, actually, my understanding is that Bill Nelson, the director of NASA, 01:37:05.280 --> 01:37:08.700 is saying that, no, they're going to keep going with this. 01:37:08.820 --> 01:37:10.720 They definitely need this. 01:37:12.400 --> 01:37:19.040 They don't want to be completely reliant on SpaceX. They want to have alternatives. 01:37:19.460 --> 01:37:23.920 Correct. and like oh yeah and i wouldn't want to be i wouldn't want to be completely 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:29.520 reliant on elon either right you know right yeah and just the general notion 01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:33.440 that they want redundancy they want multiple systems so that if something goes 01:37:33.440 --> 01:37:37.160 wrong with one they've got something else to fall back on well we got stuck. 01:37:37.160 --> 01:37:40.780 With with it like for a while when the space shuttle you know. 01:37:40.780 --> 01:37:47.420 Yeah and we had to rely on the russians yeah yeah right yeah okay we are done 01:37:47.420 --> 01:37:51.600 thanks everybody goodbye Goodbye. Have a good week. All that stuff. 01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:57.420 And yeah, stay on after the outro music and I'll include the little, 01:37:57.440 --> 01:37:58.900 little clip of Donald Trump. 01:37:59.280 --> 01:38:03.080 Anyway, we'll talk to you next week. Goodbye. Say goodbye, Yvonne. 01:38:03.100 --> 01:38:04.280 Bye. Bye. 01:38:36.690 --> 01:38:41.310 Okay, that's it. For the people watching the edited version, 01:38:41.430 --> 01:38:42.370 you'll have the Donald Trump. 01:38:42.410 --> 01:38:45.110 For people watching live, I'm hitting stop. Bye. 01:38:45.770 --> 01:38:46.330 Bye. 01:38:46.910 --> 01:38:53.990 If you win in November, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable? 01:38:54.250 --> 01:38:59.150 And if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance? 01:38:59.150 --> 01:39:03.350 Well, I would do that. And we're sitting down, you know, I was somebody, 01:39:03.530 --> 01:39:09.390 we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that 01:39:09.390 --> 01:39:10.990 issue. It's a very important issue. 01:39:11.350 --> 01:39:15.330 But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, 01:39:15.550 --> 01:39:20.110 that because the child care is child care, it's couldn't, you know, 01:39:20.130 --> 01:39:23.530 there's something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it. 01:39:23.530 --> 01:39:27.250 But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm 01:39:27.250 --> 01:39:32.150 talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to, 01:39:32.190 --> 01:39:33.570 but they'll get used to it very quickly. 01:39:33.710 --> 01:39:36.010 And it's not going to stop them from doing business with us, 01:39:36.050 --> 01:39:40.290 but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. 01:39:40.610 --> 01:39:44.030 Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, 01:39:44.190 --> 01:39:46.730 including child care, that it's going to take care. 01:39:46.730 --> 01:39:51.710 I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, 01:39:51.810 --> 01:39:56.890 coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all 01:39:56.890 --> 01:40:00.970 of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. 01:40:01.050 --> 01:40:04.250 I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the 01:40:04.250 --> 01:40:08.310 kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, 01:40:08.530 --> 01:40:13.590 but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just told you about. 01:40:13.590 --> 01:40:15.950 We're going to be taking in trillions of dollars. 01:40:16.390 --> 01:40:20.470 And as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, 01:40:20.710 --> 01:40:25.670 it's relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. 01:40:25.690 --> 01:40:30.710 We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. 01:40:30.830 --> 01:40:34.170 And then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people. 01:40:34.510 --> 01:40:38.390 But we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. 01:40:38.510 --> 01:40:43.970 It's about make America great again. again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation. 01:40:44.170 --> 01:40:47.050 So we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.