WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:04.750 Okey dokey sorry about the delay can you hear me. 00:00:04.750 --> 00:00:06.390 I can hear you. 00:00:06.390 --> 00:00:14.610 Okay good good good good good good good good good okay hold on let's get hold 00:00:14.610 --> 00:00:16.270 on one minute we don't have video yet, 00:00:22.970 --> 00:00:29.970 my my internet is sucking right now hold on oh Oh, it was just my internet being stupid. 00:00:31.370 --> 00:00:36.190 My internet is being stupid. Here's a new song. 00:00:36.410 --> 00:00:41.050 We will make a doobity. Bill, the bubble. 00:00:41.570 --> 00:00:43.930 The bubble. The bubble. The bubble. 00:00:46.290 --> 00:00:47.270 The bubble. The bubble. 00:00:48.490 --> 00:00:51.810 Very. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 00:00:52.150 --> 00:00:57.190 Come on. Come on. Stop being a little circle loadie thing. and actually do something. 00:00:58.450 --> 00:01:05.850 Come on, I'm tired. What's wrong? I'm really tired. I'm tired. Show on the road. 00:01:06.210 --> 00:01:11.230 There's a road? There's a road? Oh my God, there's a road. 00:01:11.790 --> 00:01:13.630 There's a road. Roads. 00:01:15.970 --> 00:01:16.050 Roads. 00:01:17.170 --> 00:01:19.390 Where we're going, we don't need roads. 00:01:20.170 --> 00:01:21.170 That's for sure. 00:01:23.950 --> 00:01:26.770 Uh let me click one thing from here just to make sure 00:01:26.770 --> 00:01:31.710 because that's stupid looks like things are going but it's my internet is like 00:01:31.710 --> 00:01:38.570 dying but you know i guess if it's working it's working uh let's try this yeah 00:01:38.570 --> 00:01:44.670 it looks fine on here it's just it's just my computer and it's just safari Safari to be specific. 00:01:44.790 --> 00:01:47.490 Like, well, then we'll Safari and open it again. 00:01:49.210 --> 00:01:50.510 Oh, that's an idea. 00:01:51.030 --> 00:01:51.470 Yeah. 00:01:52.330 --> 00:01:58.450 Cause like we're talking in Chrome and Chrome's working fine. See if this fixes it. 00:01:59.350 --> 00:02:04.970 Yes, it did. Well, you are so smart, Yvonne. You, you, you, it's, it's amazing. 00:02:05.910 --> 00:02:08.150 Okay. I, in that case, uh, shall we go? 00:02:08.570 --> 00:02:09.010 Yep. 00:02:09.370 --> 00:02:11.130 Here comes. Yes. 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:45.300 Welcome to Curmudgeon's Corner for August 24th. That's Saturday, August 24th, 2024. 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:51.700 It is just before 3 UTC as we're starting to record. I'm Sam Minter, 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:53.940 Yvonne Bo is here. Hello, Yvonne. 00:02:53.980 --> 00:02:59.140 Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. I'm here. Hello. 00:02:59.940 --> 00:03:06.880 Hello. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. You know, we don't have the same production values as a DNC. 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.580 We have about the same production values, I think, as the RNC. 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.580 Actually, I think our production values may be a little bit better than the 00:03:14.580 --> 00:03:18.780 RNC. I think we're probably more entertaining than the RNC was. 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.520 The RNC, let's see you look at it again. 00:03:22.580 --> 00:03:31.740 Everybody, consider the rules and the quorum as you announce the votes for your state. 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:33.520 I mean you must be. 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:39.540 Quiet so that people can hear you properly am i doing it. 00:03:39.540 --> 00:03:42.880 Right you did great yes 00:03:42.880 --> 00:03:48.700 if we have more entertainment value and production value than these guys i mean 00:03:48.700 --> 00:03:56.920 i realize that you know we we didn't have a convention in 2020 so now we got 00:03:56.920 --> 00:04:01.940 one in 2024 I think there was a lot of pent-up energy for a Democratic convention. 00:04:02.180 --> 00:04:04.100 Not so much for a Republican one, it seemed. 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:07.720 Well, and I think, like, I guess we're jumping right into it. 00:04:07.740 --> 00:04:10.840 We're going to do a but first, and then we'll do, like, newsy stuff afterwards. 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.740 But jumping right into the convention stuff, I guess, you know? 00:04:13.740 --> 00:04:17.680 Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not talking about the newsy stuff about the convention. 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:20.980 I'm just talking about, you know, the production values. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.080 But that is kind of newsy. Because I think, like, I also think that even though 00:04:25.080 --> 00:04:26.940 they only had a few weeks... 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:33.700 I'm very, very sure the Harris campaign put a distinct stamp on this, 00:04:33.840 --> 00:04:41.220 not just in terms of the speakers and stuff, but in terms of the tone it was going to take. 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:49.320 I don't know. Would the Biden folks really have gone for that musical roll call of the states? 00:04:49.700 --> 00:04:50.600 I don't know. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:50.880 Well, here's the thing. 00:04:51.100 --> 00:04:56.620 Well, I will say this. I would think that probably maybe the staff was up to it. 00:04:57.300 --> 00:05:00.220 But maybe Biden was like, nah, let's do something a little bit more, 00:05:00.380 --> 00:05:03.220 you know, by tradition. Biden, yeah, exactly. 00:05:03.580 --> 00:05:09.320 You know, because it's Joe. You know, that's not, you know, I love Joe, but, you know, Joe. 00:05:11.740 --> 00:05:14.600 There was a different energy. There was a different energy. 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:20.740 And I think they leaned into it across the board. word it was intentionally 00:05:20.740 --> 00:05:27.700 very youthful in a way that if biden had tried to do it i don't know that it 00:05:27.700 --> 00:05:29.340 would have pulled it off the same way. 00:05:29.340 --> 00:05:33.200 No no no and that's i think and it's probably the right call i don't think it 00:05:33.200 --> 00:05:39.220 would have worked for joe it's you know it's a different candidate right but 00:05:39.220 --> 00:05:42.680 anyway going not jumping into that going back to my first. 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:43.960 But you know. 00:05:43.960 --> 00:05:47.500 You know i did i got two Two things on my butt first, like right now. Okay. 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:48.020 Oh, excellent. 00:05:48.020 --> 00:05:48.800 First one's pretty short. 00:05:49.020 --> 00:05:49.460 Yes. 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:56.580 One thing is, last week, right before I, I mean, not right before, on Saturday. 00:05:56.880 --> 00:06:00.020 Okay. I'm going on a business trip Monday, Saturday. 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:04.760 I went to wipe my glasses clean and I broke one of the lenses. 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.780 Oh, that's like popped it out of the frame or like cracked. 00:06:09.840 --> 00:06:12.480 No, no, no, no, no. It cracked. Okay. 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:17.580 How exactly were you cleaning your glasses? With a hammer? 00:06:17.860 --> 00:06:22.200 No, like normal. No, no, no. There had been... 00:06:22.780 --> 00:06:28.500 So I use these frameless glasses that are just really held by a little wire. 00:06:28.620 --> 00:06:31.040 The ones I'm wearing are the same way. 00:06:31.860 --> 00:06:36.440 No, no, no. There's no wires in them. These are not in. 00:06:36.580 --> 00:06:41.280 Okay? The ones that I typically use have no wires at all. 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:44.500 the lenses only held in the middle it's only 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:48.320 held actually from both sides on the 00:06:48.320 --> 00:06:51.060 frame and of course i'm showing this to salmon you guys can't see 00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:53.880 it i'm sorry it's on both sides to through two 00:06:53.880 --> 00:06:57.960 little tiny holes and then there are two tiny holes in the middle that hold 00:06:57.960 --> 00:07:04.460 the the the nose thingies you know okay that's it nothing else okay it's it's 00:07:04.460 --> 00:07:09.780 completely completely frameless and I had noticed for a while that there had 00:07:09.780 --> 00:07:11.440 been like a hairline crack, 00:07:12.900 --> 00:07:18.520 developing on one of the lenses where they had punched a hole where the little 00:07:18.520 --> 00:07:20.860 thing that goes on the nose what the hell is it? 00:07:21.380 --> 00:07:24.620 I don't know what the hell that thing is called the nose thingy the little. 00:07:24.620 --> 00:07:25.980 Pads are you talking. 00:07:25.980 --> 00:07:30.820 The little pads? yeah where the little pads are held yeah so the nose pads yeah 00:07:30.820 --> 00:07:34.960 exactly so I noticed there was a hairline crack developing, 00:07:35.990 --> 00:07:40.990 And I'm like, you know, well, it's a little crack, but you can't really see it. 00:07:41.050 --> 00:07:45.690 And then all of a sudden I went to wipe my glasses and I bumped that and the 00:07:45.690 --> 00:07:51.390 piece of lens towards the edge there just broke off. It just broke. 00:07:52.910 --> 00:08:01.910 So, okay. I have my spare glasses because I had made a pair of spare glasses when I went there. 00:08:01.910 --> 00:08:09.210 I go to grab the bear what i what i have going is i always keep the previous 00:08:09.210 --> 00:08:13.730 pair as a spare and like well what happened was. 00:08:13.730 --> 00:08:18.270 That i normally did that what happened was that my prescription changed enough. 00:08:18.270 --> 00:08:20.630 That you wanted my previous i. 00:08:20.630 --> 00:08:22.370 Wanted them both with the same. 00:08:22.370 --> 00:08:28.830 Yeah and so mine usually don't change like the last time so that like yeah the 00:08:28.830 --> 00:08:32.730 current pair is better but if If I had to flip to the older pair, it would be okay. 00:08:33.130 --> 00:08:37.550 No, the last time, the prescription change was enough that it was really annoying 00:08:37.550 --> 00:08:42.190 to not have a separate spare pair. 00:08:42.490 --> 00:08:46.970 So I went and I had that pair made. 00:08:47.590 --> 00:08:50.790 And so I went to grab it. I went to grab it. 00:08:50.810 --> 00:08:55.630 And this one pair, which is very similar to the one I'm wearing right now, it's not this one. 00:08:55.850 --> 00:08:58.470 Because these are only used to be on the computer, okay? 00:08:59.170 --> 00:09:02.990 See the distance. And so once you're, you, Sam is seeing on the thing, 00:09:03.010 --> 00:09:07.510 I have a pair, I have a set of glasses that I use only in the computer. Okay. 00:09:07.570 --> 00:09:12.190 I do too. Um, I got that for the first time a couple of years ago and yeah, I use it all the time now. 00:09:12.510 --> 00:09:18.330 Yeah. And, um, yeah. And so I went and I'm like, I want to grab it. 00:09:18.750 --> 00:09:22.750 And I had barely used them since I got, I got them. I only used them for a few days. 00:09:23.390 --> 00:09:27.590 The little, the little nylon string, it snapped on those two on one of them. 00:09:27.870 --> 00:09:29.490 And I'm like, oh, come on. 00:09:30.110 --> 00:09:36.070 You have to be kidding me. I mean, and so actually the lens was still kind of 00:09:36.070 --> 00:09:37.990 being held there. But if you went and accidentally touched, 00:09:39.150 --> 00:09:41.370 Tugged at it a little bit too much, it would pop off. 00:09:41.710 --> 00:09:42.150 Okay? 00:09:42.310 --> 00:09:47.630 So I am like, what the fuck am I doing? 00:09:48.690 --> 00:09:53.610 So first thing I did is my flight was in the afternoon on Monday. 00:09:53.830 --> 00:09:59.830 So I dropped off Manu at school. I checked out what time the store where I got 00:09:59.830 --> 00:10:02.590 my glasses done is open, which was 9 a.m. 00:10:02.970 --> 00:10:06.710 The store is like less than a mile and a half from my house. 00:10:06.810 --> 00:10:08.570 So I just went, I just dropped them off. 00:10:09.150 --> 00:10:14.910 Went straight there, and I said, okay, two big problems. This one's broken. 00:10:15.470 --> 00:10:17.930 That was my spare. And oh, by the way, this one broke. 00:10:18.930 --> 00:10:22.370 Thankfully, they said, well, we can fix this one with a nylon string. 00:10:22.430 --> 00:10:26.890 No problem. Boom. And so they went and they five minutes and they fixed that one. 00:10:27.130 --> 00:10:30.430 So they were able to give me those back immediately. So that was good. 00:10:30.770 --> 00:10:35.590 And then the other ones, actually, they looked at the warranty and they looked at what happened. 00:10:35.790 --> 00:10:38.810 And they definitely said, oh, yeah, this is not your fault. 00:10:39.150 --> 00:10:42.110 And they said, no, we'll, we'll, we'll make new lenses for you. 00:10:42.130 --> 00:10:45.350 We'll have them ready for you. And we'll call you. You know, the last. 00:10:45.350 --> 00:10:52.190 The last time I got new glasses, uh, I think it was the last time like I got 00:10:52.190 --> 00:10:53.770 them, I brought them home. 00:10:54.530 --> 00:11:01.070 And then like a few days to a week later, there was a little chip in the corner 00:11:01.070 --> 00:11:03.550 right next to the nose. And I'm like, what the hell? 00:11:03.910 --> 00:11:07.710 And so like, like you, you, I called him up and they were like, 00:11:07.710 --> 00:11:10.290 well, it's clearly literally under warranty, you've been gone like a week. 00:11:11.050 --> 00:11:15.850 So I gave him back. I went back to my spares, the older pair and, 00:11:15.910 --> 00:11:19.950 you know, waited for the new ones to come in. I got the new pair. 00:11:20.350 --> 00:11:20.790 Yeah. 00:11:20.870 --> 00:11:23.350 About a week later, same damn thing again. 00:11:23.790 --> 00:11:24.770 Oh, what the hell? 00:11:24.910 --> 00:11:32.250 And I took him back, waited for a new pair, got it back. Few days later, same damn thing again. 00:11:32.550 --> 00:11:33.370 Oh God. 00:11:33.430 --> 00:11:37.770 They got it right on the fourth try. Like, I don't know what was wrong. 00:11:37.770 --> 00:11:43.710 That the other ones, those had been problematic as well. 00:11:43.890 --> 00:11:49.690 The thing is that the little thing that held the nose in, it's supposed to be 00:11:49.690 --> 00:11:52.310 glued in there or whatever. It kept popping out. 00:11:52.830 --> 00:11:53.410 Right. 00:11:53.470 --> 00:11:59.970 They have to fix it several times. And I think that's partly what caused that lens to crack. 00:12:00.010 --> 00:12:06.190 But they had to reinsert that in there several times. times and so that's why 00:12:06.190 --> 00:12:10.610 i think they weren't they weren't arguing about it they were like no no it's so whatever you're. 00:12:10.610 --> 00:12:12.170 All set you're all set. 00:12:12.170 --> 00:12:16.630 Well i i have i don't well i have i'm using the spares which is fine i'm waiting 00:12:16.630 --> 00:12:19.790 for the other one to come i'm waiting for the other ones but i have you know 00:12:19.790 --> 00:12:24.490 i have those and you know i don't i don't think i'll break those right now, 00:12:25.250 --> 00:12:27.650 i'm not one that i mean i think that's only like, 00:12:29.750 --> 00:12:33.110 I don't know why the hell I like these frameless ones. I, the last time I broke 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:34.630 a pair, it was exactly like these. 00:12:34.750 --> 00:12:39.490 It was, uh, it was a different brand, but, but I, I, I broke them similar. 00:12:39.610 --> 00:12:43.890 I mean, they broke in a similar way, but I mean, those are the only two glasses 00:12:43.890 --> 00:12:46.810 I've, I think I've ever broken. Yeah. 00:12:46.910 --> 00:12:50.950 So like the, the main pair I have and like my spares are identical. 00:12:51.230 --> 00:12:55.050 Like I got the same frame, you know, they're, they're, they're rimless, 00:12:55.110 --> 00:12:59.550 but with the little nylon cord, like that you're not like the pure room. 00:12:59.750 --> 00:13:02.790 but the the main thing about the frames 00:13:02.790 --> 00:13:06.190 themselves is they're like out of one of these like really 00:13:06.190 --> 00:13:12.490 flexible bendy materials that's kind of well the frame themselves are super 00:13:12.490 --> 00:13:18.190 tough yeah the ones that i got i mean i i picked this specifically so like i 00:13:18.190 --> 00:13:22.710 could roll on top of this thing and while i'm in my sleep i could step on them 00:13:22.710 --> 00:13:24.990 whatever and they'd be fine so look. 00:13:24.990 --> 00:13:26.570 I that The frames themselves. 00:13:26.970 --> 00:13:27.950 And I've done all those. 00:13:27.990 --> 00:13:33.450 On the other ones are very tougher for a different reason. They're made out of titanium. 00:13:34.030 --> 00:13:36.770 Okay. They're stupidly expensive. 00:13:37.790 --> 00:13:43.730 I mean, I will freely admit that when I went, I bought them. 00:13:43.790 --> 00:13:45.590 I did not look at the price. 00:13:46.290 --> 00:13:48.550 Okay. Of course not. 00:13:48.570 --> 00:13:49.690 And when they rang them up. 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:51.090 And you're like, what? 00:13:52.250 --> 00:14:00.670 I wasn't, what? but i was a little bit like whoa that's that's that's a lot 00:14:00.670 --> 00:14:05.890 of money they were like they were like close to two thousand dollars yeah okay 00:14:05.890 --> 00:14:11.230 like uh and my and it's not because i have complex lenses it's the frames yeah. 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:12.130 Well the frames are. 00:14:12.130 --> 00:14:18.110 Well i it was the frame was like fifteen hundred dollars and literally and it 00:14:18.110 --> 00:14:23.030 and it and it's made out of titanium now but here's the one thing yeah Look, 00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:24.290 those frames don't break. 00:14:24.570 --> 00:14:27.750 Listen, the thing you're talking about, that frame... 00:14:28.950 --> 00:14:33.910 It won't break. And those, that's the one feature about it. Yeah, 00:14:33.950 --> 00:14:35.490 they won't break, but yeah, they're. 00:14:35.970 --> 00:14:37.090 Yeah, I don't, I don't. 00:14:37.130 --> 00:14:41.850 It was an eye-watering price. Listen, I freely admit, I would not, 00:14:41.890 --> 00:14:49.530 listen, if they had had the price tag on there, I am sure I would have picked something else. 00:14:49.910 --> 00:14:50.350 Right. 00:14:50.450 --> 00:14:55.690 Now, what I will say is after owning those for a while, and I've had those frames 00:14:55.690 --> 00:14:56.630 that I actually replaced. 00:14:56.630 --> 00:14:59.770 listen those are so expensive that when i got my prescription yes 00:14:59.770 --> 00:15:02.530 i kept the fucking frames because they 00:15:02.530 --> 00:15:05.230 were that expensive that i will i will freely admit that the 00:15:05.230 --> 00:15:08.210 one thing about those classes specifically that is a really cool 00:15:08.210 --> 00:15:12.770 thing is that they feel like you're not really wearing anything you don't notice 00:15:12.770 --> 00:15:17.810 them at all it's and and that is a sensation i'm like i've had all these other 00:15:17.810 --> 00:15:21.970 glasses where you always constantly feel like something here whatever and with 00:15:21.970 --> 00:15:26.130 those glasses You literally feel like you have nothing on your face. 00:15:26.210 --> 00:15:28.770 And that's the one thing that I realized that I'm like, okay, 00:15:28.830 --> 00:15:34.570 I really like this and I will withstand issues with them. 00:15:35.460 --> 00:15:39.240 So, you know, but yeah, but if I, I will freely admit that if I, 00:15:39.280 --> 00:15:44.060 if they had to price things on them, I'm like, eh, do you have something else 00:15:44.060 --> 00:15:46.340 that looks like this, but it's not, you know? 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:51.600 Yeah. Yeah. No, I I'll say like my, my, my tastes aren't quite as expensive as yours. 00:15:51.660 --> 00:15:56.520 Mine are less than half the cost of yours, but like they, they were to me, 00:15:56.680 --> 00:16:01.280 they were still, still price on the pricey end, but most of my cost, 00:16:01.340 --> 00:16:03.920 like, okay, my, my, I like my frames. 00:16:03.920 --> 00:16:06.940 my frames are decent they're like bendy they're tough 00:16:06.940 --> 00:16:10.220 they're very light like you know ones you're talking about although not 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:13.620 quite as fancy but i i still i 00:16:13.620 --> 00:16:16.880 go for all of the options on the lenses like i 00:16:16.880 --> 00:16:20.580 i like max out the lenses everything yeah like 00:16:20.580 --> 00:16:23.540 i i get every single option that they 00:16:23.540 --> 00:16:27.160 offer on the lenses themselves especially like 00:16:27.160 --> 00:16:29.960 i mean there's like anti-scratch coatings and stuff like 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.020 that but also the the big one that i've had ever since 00:16:33.020 --> 00:16:36.040 i'm a teenager the the darkening kind yeah yeah 00:16:36.040 --> 00:16:39.100 yeah and i hate those i don't get that and that's expensive and 00:16:39.100 --> 00:16:43.460 that's expensive i cannot live without those like the the ones i i switched 00:16:43.460 --> 00:16:48.280 to while we were recording that are my computer glasses don't have that because 00:16:48.280 --> 00:16:53.640 they're computer glasses they're for inside and a couple of times i've accidentally 00:16:53.640 --> 00:16:57.060 done something like go walk the dog wearing these you. 00:16:57.060 --> 00:16:58.840 Realize whoa what happened What the. 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.080 Hell is wrong with this world? I know. Everything's so damn bright. 00:17:02.300 --> 00:17:04.640 I can't stand it. My eyes hurt. 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:09.860 Everything's so bright and it's blurry because they're not meant for you to 00:17:09.860 --> 00:17:10.900 look at a distance anyway. 00:17:11.020 --> 00:17:15.620 So the world is bright and blurry at the same time. It's like a terrible combination. 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:16.600 Yeah, yeah. 00:17:17.820 --> 00:17:24.520 But look, listen, the one thing that I will say also that I recall why I didn't 00:17:24.520 --> 00:17:27.600 bitch as much to pay for that is that I had made a mistake. 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:31.300 i forgot about the fact that i had made a mistake in my 00:17:31.300 --> 00:17:39.380 health plan and i had wound up accidentally putting 2500 in a spending account 00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:43.920 oh that you had that could only be used for no yeah but it was only for glasses 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:49.620 right right and and and i think it was glasses and dental things and i'm like, 00:17:50.730 --> 00:17:54.390 It was near the end of the year, and I'm like realizing, and I went and I said, 00:17:54.430 --> 00:17:55.490 I'm going to get expensive lenses. 00:17:55.550 --> 00:17:58.890 Now, I didn't realize it at that point. I thought, whoa, I really went, Jesus. 00:17:59.370 --> 00:18:04.370 But I probably may have gone and said, no, no, no, find me some of the lenses. 00:18:04.490 --> 00:18:08.550 But I realized, fuck, I put $2,500 in the stupid spending accounts, 00:18:08.710 --> 00:18:11.690 use it or lose it, and I got to use it on fucking glasses. 00:18:12.510 --> 00:18:17.590 Yeah. Now, the other thing I've done, like I have, like you, 00:18:17.770 --> 00:18:23.710 I've reused the same frames. Like I have the, I have two pairs of identical frames. 00:18:24.110 --> 00:18:27.290 One has my previous prescription. One has my current prescription. 00:18:27.490 --> 00:18:32.550 But when, and for the last couple cycles now, whenever I get a new one, 00:18:32.650 --> 00:18:36.390 I'm just like, put the new lenses in my old spares. 00:18:36.390 --> 00:18:37.170 In my old, right. 00:18:37.290 --> 00:18:44.310 And then, so I have the same two actual frames that I've kept for several glasses cycles now. So. 00:18:44.330 --> 00:18:48.430 No, I get that. So, okay. So enough about the glasses. There's another thing. 00:18:48.430 --> 00:18:51.050 Oh, there's one more thing. Oh, my. 00:18:51.150 --> 00:18:56.230 Yes, there's one more thing. Look, I have to admit that I have been obsessing 00:18:56.230 --> 00:19:02.990 over details and news about this yacht that had Mike Lynch that sank and put Mediterranean. 00:19:03.350 --> 00:19:10.390 Okay. Now, I have followed this only very slightly. Like, I have not looked at the details. 00:19:10.630 --> 00:19:13.990 I know that it happened. I know that a few people died. 00:19:13.990 --> 00:19:17.750 I know look there's multiple angles why 00:19:17.750 --> 00:19:21.110 i am obsessing about this okay it's 00:19:21.110 --> 00:19:24.430 it aside i i probably would be obsessing 00:19:24.430 --> 00:19:27.330 over it and i and i can tell you that the one 00:19:27.330 --> 00:19:32.150 youtuber that i follow that does yacht news it has been obsessing over it as 00:19:32.150 --> 00:19:37.950 well and i probably i would have been regardless of the angle that it was mike 00:19:37.950 --> 00:19:43.550 lynch who was the owner of the yacht okay and so mike Mike Lynch was the guy 00:19:43.550 --> 00:19:46.010 that was the CEO of Autonomy. 00:19:46.610 --> 00:19:50.030 Autonomy was a software company that Hewlett Packard bought. 00:19:50.890 --> 00:20:00.110 Sometime in the early 2010s, okay, that later on, because of a massive write-off 00:20:00.110 --> 00:20:04.250 that they had to do due to the acquisition of this thing, 00:20:04.390 --> 00:20:10.170 I basically had been, I had passed all interviews. 00:20:10.230 --> 00:20:15.650 This was about to receive a job offer to return to Hewlett Packard. 00:20:15.770 --> 00:20:17.510 Oh, okay. Yeah. 00:20:17.730 --> 00:20:28.990 Sometime in May of 2012. And what happened was that that month they had announced 00:20:28.990 --> 00:20:33.210 a massive write-down from the acquisition. 00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:37.910 I'm pretty sure this was one of the reasons, the massive write-down due to this 00:20:37.910 --> 00:20:43.270 acquisition because of alleged financial fraud by Mike Lynch. 00:20:44.910 --> 00:20:49.370 And the offer was not tendered. 00:20:50.190 --> 00:20:50.210 Okay. 00:20:50.890 --> 00:20:59.710 So I did not go back to HP because of this guy, basically, who later on was 00:20:59.710 --> 00:21:02.130 accused of fraud criminally. 00:21:02.390 --> 00:21:06.450 He was arrested and extradited to the U.S. 00:21:06.530 --> 00:21:11.350 He was pretty much thinking that he was not going to win the case, 00:21:11.470 --> 00:21:14.910 and he wound up getting acquitted recently. 00:21:16.010 --> 00:21:16.070 Okay. 00:21:16.110 --> 00:21:19.950 Him and his CFO. somehow the 00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:23.210 week before this accident happened 00:21:23.210 --> 00:21:29.710 where his yacht sank and he died his cfo was i think in a some kind of accident 00:21:29.710 --> 00:21:36.370 where he he died so that was his co-defendant died about a week or two ago oh 00:21:36.370 --> 00:21:41.910 then he was anchored on his yacht which was a very 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:47.370 large yacht, okay, over 200 feet, is one of the biggest. 00:21:47.870 --> 00:21:56.270 The only sailing yacht that has exceeded that one in size is Jeff Bezos' new sailing yacht. Okay? 00:21:57.270 --> 00:22:00.150 Just to give you an idea how expensive it is. 00:22:00.150 --> 00:22:03.170 Is that the one they had to dismantle the bridge to get it out? 00:22:03.290 --> 00:22:05.910 Yes, correct. Well, they didn't wind up dismantling the bridge. 00:22:06.010 --> 00:22:09.110 They did something else because everybody was pissed off about dismantling the bridge. 00:22:09.230 --> 00:22:15.450 Yes. But anyway, wait so this one is was is basically second largest to that 00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:21.470 one as a sailing yacht okay the second highest mast a freak storm during the 00:22:21.470 --> 00:22:24.230 night hit them while they were at an anchor okay. 00:22:25.810 --> 00:22:30.530 Now, look, I've been hit by freak storms. Other yachts were hit by freak storms. 00:22:30.750 --> 00:22:33.270 This yacht should have sustained this. 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:40.650 Shouldn't have. But in less than 15 minutes, the yacht went down and six people 00:22:40.650 --> 00:22:43.090 died. There were 20 people on board. 00:22:43.550 --> 00:22:52.790 The ones that died look like they were the ones that were in the master staterooms and cabins. 00:22:52.790 --> 00:22:59.790 the master stateroom was the one furthest inward in town and then there was 00:22:59.790 --> 00:23:04.010 another cabin where his attorney and his wife were sleeping his daughter was 00:23:04.010 --> 00:23:08.290 there I understood like it was the guys that died were Mike Lynch his wife survived 00:23:08.290 --> 00:23:10.850 most of the crew survived except the chef. 00:23:11.810 --> 00:23:15.450 His lawyer and his wife his daughter died was 18, 00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:22.550 yeah and they found their bodies the bodies were inside the yacht they actually 00:23:22.550 --> 00:23:28.010 divers went down and recovered the bodies were about 100 feet deep around there, 00:23:28.530 --> 00:23:31.670 where it happened but it was really 00:23:31.670 --> 00:23:34.710 just there wasn't a sailing vessel that 00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:38.090 was very large it was anchored like very nearby and and they 00:23:38.090 --> 00:23:42.250 you know they just they were like stunned they're the ones that picked up all 00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:45.370 the rescued all the people that were in it they were uh they found them in a 00:23:45.370 --> 00:23:49.310 life raft now usually you know a ship boat of that size and even not not that 00:23:49.310 --> 00:23:52.570 size i've I've had one of these on a couple of boats I've had. 00:23:52.610 --> 00:23:54.810 They have these canisters that are up front. 00:23:55.050 --> 00:24:00.010 They sense that you're underwater and they will self-deploy, 00:24:00.130 --> 00:24:04.050 okay, in order for you to be able to get on there and be rescued. 00:24:05.370 --> 00:24:12.590 Okay, so it seems that the people that were in the main cabins were ones that, 00:24:13.470 --> 00:24:18.190 Got stuck inside. Right. And they had to be rescued. So it was. 00:24:18.270 --> 00:24:24.470 So basically it was laid out so that these were interior rooms that you couldn't 00:24:24.470 --> 00:24:28.110 get. You couldn't get straight to the outside from these rooms. 00:24:28.190 --> 00:24:29.750 You had to go like some route. 00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:34.390 You could. Well, it was a longer. It was. 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:41.330 Well, they're probably. They do it usually. Actually, they have emergency hatches, 00:24:41.330 --> 00:24:44.570 but they are not the ones nearest to the main entrances, okay? 00:24:44.630 --> 00:24:50.030 And the reality is they're saying that the boat was like either might have capsized 00:24:50.030 --> 00:24:54.090 temporarily or shipped or been listing heavily. 00:24:54.490 --> 00:24:58.230 If it capsized temporarily, even though they found it at the bottom of the sea 00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:00.470 on its side, but that doesn't mean anything. 00:25:00.590 --> 00:25:04.690 It means it could have rolled, okay? You know, look, you're sleeping, 00:25:04.950 --> 00:25:10.270 boat goes upside down, you're in the water, don't know where the fuck you need 00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:12.570 to go. Right. How to get out. Okay. 00:25:13.030 --> 00:25:15.930 You know, it, it, it, and I, and it. 00:25:15.930 --> 00:25:18.450 And, and frankly, if you were sound asleep when it happened, 00:25:18.490 --> 00:25:21.790 by the time you were fully awake, it might be too late anyway. way. 00:25:21.810 --> 00:25:28.050 And that's the thing, and I'm like, you know, on our Slack, I'm mentioning that 00:25:28.050 --> 00:25:33.810 the crew probably may have wanted to, would have gotten people ready because 00:25:33.810 --> 00:25:35.010 a storm was approaching. 00:25:35.350 --> 00:25:38.510 And look, it seems, look, the crew survived. 00:25:38.990 --> 00:25:43.250 The crew had to, listen, the crew must have known that something was up. 00:25:43.730 --> 00:25:50.030 And they were up, and they were up and out of the cabins, which is why they 00:25:50.030 --> 00:25:52.050 were able to be rescued. Okay. 00:25:52.350 --> 00:25:55.170 And I guess the owner's wife. 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.260 Also survived and and i gotta guess it's because 00:25:59.260 --> 00:26:01.900 if there's a storm and stuff it's like 00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:04.840 going like that even in a in a yacht that big you're you're 00:26:04.840 --> 00:26:07.520 probably all of a sudden going hey what the 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:10.480 heck is going on let me let me go check and 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.080 and i i have a i have i have anchored 00:26:14.080 --> 00:26:17.960 where it's turned into bad weather okay and 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.260 i will say that me as the person responsible 00:26:21.260 --> 00:26:24.200 for the other people sleeping on on the 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.060 boat i will say that the the other 00:26:27.060 --> 00:26:30.480 people everybody was sleeping soundly no problem but i couldn't 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.280 sleep because i was just like 00:26:33.280 --> 00:26:39.020 look winds are strong i don't we're anchored i don't want this anchor to drag 00:26:39.020 --> 00:26:45.340 wind up into rocks or something i don't know i i i was just i really could not 00:26:45.340 --> 00:26:50.820 sleep until the weather died down okay and and i'm sure that that's what happened 00:26:50.820 --> 00:26:52.240 with But the crew, the crew were like, 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.500 OK, look, there's bad weather. I got to go check it out now. 00:26:56.860 --> 00:27:02.100 You know, I'm going to guess that the owner being how big and how a reputation 00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:07.300 for a seaworthy yacht this was probably may have been like, eh, whatever. 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.700 We'll be fine. You know, no problem. 00:27:10.020 --> 00:27:13.960 You know, the crew will take care of it. OK, so he probably wasn't thinking 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.260 that that was going to be a problem. 00:27:16.380 --> 00:27:20.320 You may have been overly confident. And I can't blame him for being overly confident, 00:27:20.460 --> 00:27:23.040 given the reputation for that boat. 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:29.560 And so a lot of people have been trying to figure out what happened. 00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:31.960 There's been a whole bunch of rumors and speculation. 00:27:33.140 --> 00:27:38.460 One thing is the crew hasn't spoken, other than about five words from the captain 00:27:38.460 --> 00:27:41.920 that basically said he didn't see it coming. He didn't see it coming. 00:27:42.990 --> 00:27:50.290 But I don't know. I, I just, they're both boats have especially larger boats 00:27:50.290 --> 00:27:53.230 have like airplanes have ADS B, 00:27:53.390 --> 00:27:57.770 which is like flight, what flight radar 24 uses in order to track positions 00:27:57.770 --> 00:28:00.490 of positions of ships, of aircraft. 00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:06.870 There is some, there is a similar system for, for larger vessels, which is AIS. Okay. 00:28:07.350 --> 00:28:13.910 And, you know, they, they had AIS and the AIS data showed, that definitely their 00:28:13.910 --> 00:28:15.210 anchor must have been dragging. 00:28:15.370 --> 00:28:20.310 The wind got whipped up so big, so what happens is you put the anchor down and 00:28:20.310 --> 00:28:25.670 the anchor goes in and it's stuffed in the usually sandy bottom. 00:28:26.850 --> 00:28:31.430 And usually anchors hold pretty well, but a wind that stiff, 00:28:31.670 --> 00:28:35.570 it was making the anchor drag. 00:28:35.710 --> 00:28:38.310 It wasn't being able to hold the ship in place. 00:28:39.550 --> 00:28:42.430 The other vessel that was nearby had started their 00:28:42.430 --> 00:28:45.410 engines in order to be able to 00:28:45.410 --> 00:28:48.970 stop that effect and you 00:28:48.970 --> 00:28:52.130 know it was a sailboat even a small they all have 00:28:52.130 --> 00:28:57.590 engines now there's that big engines on it they have engines but i yeah i it's 00:28:57.590 --> 00:29:02.110 just one of these things where it's i mean i've you know i don't know i remember 00:29:02.110 --> 00:29:07.190 but you know i had you at an anchorage you know overnight when you visited okay 00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:09.430 you know it's It's not something that's abnormal to do, 00:29:09.510 --> 00:29:14.570 to go out and find a nice, safe anchorage and sleep overnight. 00:29:14.830 --> 00:29:16.910 And I've done that many times in my life. 00:29:17.770 --> 00:29:22.410 And I've been experienced at it. It's why I was able to take you guys to do that. 00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:28.210 Because, I mean, I know where to find a safe spot, how to drop the anchor, and how to monitor it. 00:29:28.210 --> 00:29:34.350 And, you know, it's like, why, when I, and I, I usually, I will admit that being 00:29:34.350 --> 00:29:41.470 the one, whenever I've had other people, whenever I've had people period on the boat and it's my, 00:29:41.690 --> 00:29:44.070 you know, and I'm the one that brought them out. 00:29:44.110 --> 00:29:46.930 I'm, I'm usually, I will freely admit that I am. 00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:52.060 Way more cautious than probably anybody else where I'm just making sure for 00:29:52.060 --> 00:29:56.040 everybody's safety that that that that, you know, nothing's happening. 00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:59.060 So if I if there is bad weather, I won't sleep. 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.620 I mean, I will not, you know, I won't sleep. I won't drink. I want anything 00:30:03.620 --> 00:30:06.460 until we are back on safe harbor. 00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:13.480 I that's that's my thing. And I, it's just that I found it just so stunning 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:19.100 that the vessel, you know, there was some surveillance video to show the ship there. 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.000 And it was just right out there in the anchorage. Then all of a sudden in a flash disappeared. 00:30:25.820 --> 00:30:26.780 And you're like, wow. 00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:31.300 So, so anyway, so I've been obsessed by that because I, you know, 00:30:31.320 --> 00:30:33.960 as I maybe mentioned, I like boats. 00:30:34.060 --> 00:30:39.700 And so, and it's just my thing. So I just, I, I just been, well, 00:30:39.860 --> 00:30:47.180 it's just the fact that understand that I, this guy is the reason why I did 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:50.000 not go back to work at HP in 2012. 00:30:51.260 --> 00:30:55.240 Okay. I mean, talk about the, I mean, this, this, you know, this guy, 00:30:55.460 --> 00:30:58.220 this thing, the sale or whatever. 00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:03.060 And when that right off happened, it's why I never went back to work at Hewlett 00:31:03.060 --> 00:31:06.400 Packard, which is probably maybe a good, which is probably a good thing. by the way. 00:31:06.940 --> 00:31:10.200 So, okay. So probably one reason I had more interest in this story. 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.400 So anyway, so that's it. That's all I had for. 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:18.060 Given, given how long it's taken to be there. Do you want a movie from me or shall we just move on? 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.300 I can, the movie will save for next week. 00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:22.980 What movie is it? 00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:25.800 The second Jurassic park movie. 00:31:26.580 --> 00:31:28.220 I know I want to listen to this. 00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:34.280 You will listen to this. Okay. Yes. It is the lost world. World, 00:31:34.300 --> 00:31:36.700 Jurassic Park from 1997. 00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:40.300 97, okay. Yeah. 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:41.800 I'll start out. It's a thought. 00:31:41.840 --> 00:31:44.800 I'm not even sure if, I don't even sure. Wait, I was going to say, 00:31:44.840 --> 00:31:46.200 I'm not even sure if I watched it. 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:50.360 Okay. Now, we've all seen the first one. 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:54.020 Of course. Yes, yes, yes. The first one, yeah, of course. Yes. 00:31:54.600 --> 00:31:55.960 But I'm not sure if I watched this one. 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:02.100 This is one where, as I was watching it, I recognized bits and pieces of it. 00:32:02.100 --> 00:32:08.000 because I realized, I'm pretty sure what had happened was that my wife and my 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:13.460 son had watched it at some point in the last few years and I'd been like in and out of the room. 00:32:13.760 --> 00:32:19.100 So little bits and pieces of it were familiar, but the whole thing was not. 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.700 I had definitely never seen this whole thing from beginning to end before. 00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:29.660 And I'll tell you, in getting ready for this episode, and, you know, I was like, 00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:35.380 Okay. The summary of the movie. What, what, what happened in this movie? 00:32:35.900 --> 00:32:43.660 And like the, the timing of this, let's see, I, I watched this in March, March. 00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:48.820 I could not for the life of me. Remember the plot of the damn movie. 00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:51.220 Other than of course it contained dinosaurs. 00:32:51.540 --> 00:32:57.360 I, I, I've brought up the Wikipedia page and reminded myself, but before I did that. 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.700 I don't, I remember. Okay. Okay, obviously, not very memorable movie. 00:33:01.820 --> 00:33:06.520 I don't remember it. I just did exactly. I pulled up the Wikipedia page. 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:07.260 Yes. 00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:10.560 And I'm reading it, and I'm like, I don't remember any of this shit. 00:33:11.300 --> 00:33:16.980 Right. But maybe you never saw it. Because you said you weren't sure if you'd ever seen it. 00:33:17.120 --> 00:33:18.020 It's possible. 00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:25.420 But, like, I had seen it in March, and I did not remember the plot points. Like, maybe if you... 00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:26.680 Obviously not very memorable. 00:33:26.940 --> 00:33:31.520 No. No, I mean, and look, I'm giving it a thumb sideways. It wasn't bad. 00:33:31.800 --> 00:33:35.820 You know, I've said before, I reserved the thumbs down for truly awful movies. 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:42.520 This was not that. And when I, when I read the description, I now remember the 00:33:42.520 --> 00:33:43.640 bits of it and it was fine. 00:33:43.820 --> 00:33:47.360 It was, it was an entertaining couple of hours. It was okay. 00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:50.300 It just wasn't anything like super special. 00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:55.360 I am pretty sure that I probably watched at least parts of it. 00:33:55.420 --> 00:33:55.940 Right. 00:33:55.940 --> 00:33:59.580 Because there's only one reason. 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:00.340 Okay. 00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:04.220 It's a stupid reason, but it's the reason, okay? 00:34:04.340 --> 00:34:04.500 Yes. 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.620 So in the original movie, there were these Jeeps that they drove in. 00:34:09.780 --> 00:34:10.260 Yes, yes. 00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:12.760 Mercedes had launched her first SUV. 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:14.480 Okay, yes. 00:34:14.640 --> 00:34:18.860 And they had done a product placement for this in the thing. 00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:22.460 In this movie that we're talking about. In this movie, yes. Yes. 00:34:22.700 --> 00:34:29.280 And that's why I remember, because I remember that I saw the stupid cars in 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:34.020 the movie that they did as a product placement to promote the launch of their first light. 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.400 Well, I will say it's their second SUV because they always had an SUV, 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.560 but it's kind of like a military vehicle kind of a thing. It wasn't. Okay. 00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:41.840 Yeah. 00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:46.880 So, so yeah. And they never sold it in the U S but it was the first SUV they sold in the U S. Okay. 00:34:46.940 --> 00:34:51.020 And, and I, and, and yeah, so that's the reason why, but man, 00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:52.380 I don't remember any of the details. 00:34:52.460 --> 00:34:56.180 This movie was Matt must've been really mediocre. 00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:01.020 Yeah. I mean, the thing is it was like, it was clearly just trying to build 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:02.640 off the success of the first one. 00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:05.580 now apparently like the first one this was 00:35:05.580 --> 00:35:09.700 also based on michael crichton novel um so 00:35:09.700 --> 00:35:12.940 like there was work i i 00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:16.880 mean it i was gonna say it's not like completely like they 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.980 were just flailing about for something they still had something they 00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:28.180 were basing it off of but you know it was it's just sort of like okay yeah you 00:35:28.180 --> 00:35:31.440 you made a lot of money off a dinosaur movie so you decided to make another 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:37.200 one i mean you know and yeah and i guess there's a whole bunch more after this one, 00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:42.240 which yeah it's what i just said to the next level and the level after that 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:47.140 and the level after that because i mean yeah at a certain point you're you're no longer the. 00:35:47.140 --> 00:35:48.900 Last one was two years ago. 00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:52.220 Yeah i mean like at a certain point like 00:35:52.220 --> 00:35:55.140 the first one oh okay this is creative this is 00:35:55.140 --> 00:35:59.100 new this is different we haven't seen this in quite this form before although 00:35:59.100 --> 00:36:04.260 there had been movies with dinosaurs before but you know but like all of this 00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:10.560 seems godzilla well godzilla but like yeah king kong had dinosaurs you know 00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:12.520 god dinosaurs yeah wait king. 00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:13.360 Kong had dinosaurs. 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:18.240 Yes yes what do you mean the original king kong when they went they they found 00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:22.720 the island where they found king kong they also found dinosaurs on that island. 00:36:22.720 --> 00:36:24.460 I don't remember that. 00:36:24.460 --> 00:36:26.280 I went you know well. 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.760 I don't i don't i i don't know well you mean the first one that's all right 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.320 well you mean the first one you mean the black and white first one. 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.860 Yeah the ones from the 1930s yeah i. 00:36:35.860 --> 00:36:38.440 Don't i'm pretty sure i did not watch that. 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:43.080 So i watched the one that's like a remake the remake in the 70s i will tell 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:47.840 you because i i remember exactly when this happened when we did the swearing 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:54.220 back in 1939 when we did the swearing supercut of curmudgeon's corner like on 00:36:54.220 --> 00:36:55.880 the episode that i took that 00:36:56.200 --> 00:37:01.040 supercut of, I reviewed the original King Kong. 00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:07.500 Because one of the swears I said in there was something along the lines of, 00:37:08.490 --> 00:37:14.070 If you go to an island and find fucking dinosaurs, you don't fucking shoot them. 00:37:14.690 --> 00:37:18.670 That's right. I'm with you on this. Yes. 00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:23.410 Sound like, you know, I remember the one. 00:37:23.570 --> 00:37:28.990 I mean, the one that was later, were they on some kind of oil super tanker or something? 00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:34.570 And then they brought King Kong to the US. And of course, in the other one, 00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:36.790 he climbed like the World Trade Center. 00:37:36.950 --> 00:37:40.610 Yeah. Now on the other one, the old one, 1930s. 00:37:40.610 --> 00:37:40.930 Yes. 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:42.970 It was on the Empire State, I think. 00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:49.430 Yes, correct. Now, here the thing is, since you brought up bringing King Kong 00:37:49.430 --> 00:37:54.890 to the States on the tanker, that happened in this movie, too. 00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:57.550 That's right. In the Lost World Jurassic Park. 00:37:57.550 --> 00:37:58.370 I have a vague thing. 00:37:58.370 --> 00:38:04.970 They were taking the Tyrannosaurus and they were going to start a new like Jurassic 00:38:04.970 --> 00:38:07.910 Park theme theme park, but on the mainland, 00:38:08.170 --> 00:38:11.390 because, of course, it had gone so well on the isolated island, 00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:19.450 you know, and so and of course, spoilers, it escapes or it tries to escape. 00:38:19.550 --> 00:38:24.350 I think, you know, whatever chaos ensues and that chaos ensues. 00:38:24.390 --> 00:38:27.770 That's sort of like the final battle. always part of always part. 00:38:27.770 --> 00:38:29.290 Of a good movie chaos ensues. 00:38:29.290 --> 00:38:32.330 Anyway again like i i don't remember 00:38:32.330 --> 00:38:35.470 like i wasn't not entertained it was 00:38:35.470 --> 00:38:38.290 entertaining enough there were you know running around there 00:38:38.290 --> 00:38:41.110 were dinosaurs there was suspense and there 00:38:41.110 --> 00:38:44.530 was you know the there were the the variety of 00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:48.330 characters interacting with it some of whom got eaten by dinosaurs and some 00:38:48.330 --> 00:38:54.610 of whom lived you know and it is is fine it is fine there are a couple places 00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:59.910 where i was like that's not realistic but you know hey there are dinosaurs running 00:38:59.910 --> 00:39:01.410 around so what there's dinosaurs. 00:39:01.410 --> 00:39:03.470 Running around so you know what the hell. 00:39:03.470 --> 00:39:03.930 Come on, 00:39:05.950 --> 00:39:09.630 But yeah, so it was fine. It was fine. It's a thumb sideways, 00:39:09.650 --> 00:39:12.030 but it was clearly derivative of the first one. 00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:17.390 I assume every other Jurassic park in this series is also incredibly derivative 00:39:17.390 --> 00:39:20.810 and a lot of repeat stuff, even though I haven't seen them yet. 00:39:20.870 --> 00:39:22.510 I think that's a fairly safe assumption. 00:39:23.530 --> 00:39:26.690 And yeah, so thumb sideways is fine. 00:39:26.690 --> 00:39:36.490 So you're saying that the subsequent sequels yes of jurassic park you're sure they have dinosaurs i. 00:39:36.490 --> 00:39:38.030 Think that's a safe bet. 00:39:38.030 --> 00:39:43.430 Look that's not always a safe bet i don't know if i i think i may have mentioned 00:39:43.430 --> 00:39:46.870 this at some point here where there was a thing where this is something that 00:39:46.870 --> 00:39:50.830 in our international business class and cardigan mellon we're talking about 00:39:50.830 --> 00:39:52.990 franchisees going overseas Seas. 00:39:53.270 --> 00:39:58.570 And that one of the guys that had taken the KFC franchise, I can't remember in what geography. 00:39:58.970 --> 00:40:00.170 Oh, it didn't have chicken. 00:40:00.610 --> 00:40:01.910 They didn't have chicken! 00:40:02.190 --> 00:40:04.150 Right, right. I think you mentioned this, yes. 00:40:04.670 --> 00:40:11.870 Yes. They didn't have chicken! They paid the money to sell Kentucky Fried Chicken, but not have chicken. 00:40:13.770 --> 00:40:17.290 Well, for a while they stopped being Kentucky Fried Chicken and were just KFC. 00:40:17.530 --> 00:40:19.170 I think they now mentioned... 00:40:19.170 --> 00:40:19.930 Are they back? 00:40:20.330 --> 00:40:25.290 I think they've got... I think they admit to being Kentucky Fried Chicken, 00:40:25.390 --> 00:40:27.210 but most of the branding is still KFC. 00:40:27.670 --> 00:40:32.030 I will say that I love that food, and I never eat it. 00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:37.970 Because it's so bad for you. It's addictive, and it's bad for me. 00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:40.370 And so therefore, I won't do it. As we have covered on this show, 00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:42.030 you like Popeye's even better. 00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:46.200 I will say I like Popeye's even better. However, I will tell you, 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:51.640 confess that last week I stopped at something at Miami International Airport 00:40:51.640 --> 00:40:53.600 and had this southern fried chicken. 00:40:53.660 --> 00:40:54.700 Okay. Thing. 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.960 Yes. That was absolutely spectacular. 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.140 Okay. And I'm trying to figure out what the hell. 00:41:03.140 --> 00:41:06.340 There are a couple of fried chicken chains around here that like apparently 00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:10.780 like it was like a husband wife team and then they got divorced and now they're 00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:16.220 two chains or something. but like apparently apparently it's really good but i've never tried it i. 00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:19.440 Think i'm trying to see what's like a local chain. 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.680 Like just a few restaurants i. 00:41:22.680 --> 00:41:28.820 Think it's called spring chicken okay is that what it is spring chicken yes 00:41:28.820 --> 00:41:35.840 i i am pretty sure yeah i i think that is what But yes, that is what it is. 00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:40.560 And I will tell you those chicken tenders that they make there. 00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:42.580 Holy smokes. Are they good? 00:41:42.720 --> 00:41:43.120 Okay. 00:41:43.620 --> 00:41:45.520 So if you got a chance to try that. 00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:49.900 I don't think they have that around here, but now, now you've got me thinking 00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:52.660 that this weekend I'm going to have to pick up some Popeye's or something. 00:41:53.100 --> 00:41:54.900 I had, I had, let me tell you. 00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:02.800 Like yum, yum. Okay. Uh, God, no, I mean, that's like, I w I will, I'm pretty confident. 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.280 That is the only fried chicken I've eaten all year. Yeah, man, 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.960 but it's worth it. And by the way, here's the one thing. 00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:11.560 Yes. 00:42:12.080 --> 00:42:16.700 Because a couple of times that I've eaten it, hadn't sent well with my stomach, the fried chicken. 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:22.100 I'm not sure what oil they use, but I will tell you that if they use a high quality oil. 00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:26.640 It'll and whatever the ingredients they use. Yeah, exactly. 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.720 You know, like, you know, but basically, you know, yeah, that's the kind of 00:42:29.720 --> 00:42:31.160 stuff you want. You want the synthetic oil. 00:42:31.240 --> 00:42:35.160 You don't want the regular one. But I use that kind of, you know, 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:40.000 high quality vegetable oil or probably peanut, whatever, something that's probably 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.160 allergic to a lot of people. 00:42:41.180 --> 00:42:47.060 And it really makes it that it's my stomach. Well, this I was not having like 00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:50.140 any heartburn or anything afterwards. 00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:54.240 This was like delicious and it sat on my stomach very well. 00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:59.020 Excellent. Well, you know, here's the one other thing. You know, 00:42:59.020 --> 00:43:08.440 if people ever actually succeeded in cloning dinosaurs, like you start Jurassic Park. 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:08.920 They taste like chicken? 00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:12.080 Well, this is what I was going to say. They're not going to open a damn theme 00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:15.000 park for you to go see it. They're going to open a restaurant. 00:43:16.040 --> 00:43:18.020 We're going to cook the dinosaurs. 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:18.760 That's right. 00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:22.140 The dinosaur, you know. 00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:24.100 Kentucky Fried Pterosaur. Yeah. 00:43:24.540 --> 00:43:25.140 There you go. 00:43:25.560 --> 00:43:26.160 Anyway. 00:43:26.700 --> 00:43:27.740 Tastes like chicken. 00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:32.600 Tastes like chicken. One last note before we take the break. 00:43:32.780 --> 00:43:34.540 I just want to update folks. 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.000 I mentioned last week I had COVID. 00:43:37.340 --> 00:43:42.600 I'm still testing positive. I still have mild symptoms. It's been a freaking week now. 00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:49.940 The symptoms never got really bad. I've mainly had a headache and really low energy. 00:43:50.660 --> 00:43:52.800 And just in the last few days. 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:53.280 Jeb! 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.540 Jeb? Oh yeah, low energy. And just in the last few days, I've started to get 00:43:58.540 --> 00:44:05.100 a little bit of a cough, but you know, I guess like, and for the most part, 00:44:05.220 --> 00:44:06.960 I've been like, I've been being good. 00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:11.460 I didn't like, I haven't gone into the office where I could get anybody else sick. 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:17.220 They're conflicting reports about how contagious you are as far along as I am, 00:44:17.260 --> 00:44:19.460 but I'm being safe and not being contagious to others. 00:44:19.460 --> 00:44:26.840 I did attend one work call on Wednesday that was like a two-hour call. 00:44:27.160 --> 00:44:35.120 And then on Friday, I called in to like a 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. meeting. 00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:40.120 And I was actually annoyed because this is one that people had flown into town 00:44:40.120 --> 00:44:46.860 for and was like a big in-person brainstorming kind of session and review of like things. 00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:51.600 And I actually would have liked to have been there in person for this one. 00:44:51.940 --> 00:44:57.100 But like, even my boss was like, you know, even if you could come in, don't. 00:44:57.100 --> 00:44:58.140 No, no, don't do it. 00:44:58.160 --> 00:44:58.720 Don't do it. 00:44:58.720 --> 00:44:59.480 Yeah, don't do it. 00:44:59.500 --> 00:45:00.000 Just dial it. 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:02.820 Yeah. It's a fair. Yeah. Good call. 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:07.060 And so like, and I'll, I'll be absolutely honest here. 00:45:07.120 --> 00:45:14.840 Like I did not contribute as much or pay attention as much as I would have if 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.740 I was there in person. I was one of only two people who were on, 00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.780 who were remote instead of actually in the room. 00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:29.100 And like, I, I chimed in a couple of times, but like for the most part, I was just listening. 00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:34.400 And also like by like, you know, 9am to 4pm with a few breaks, 00:45:34.580 --> 00:45:36.700 that's a long meeting anyway. 00:45:37.160 --> 00:45:39.200 And I'm still not feeling super 00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:43.440 great. By the time we got to the halfway point, like my mind was done. 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.500 I was just sort of like I just want to lie down again you know I don't want 00:45:49.500 --> 00:45:55.020 to be paying attention and I did my best but like the second half I was just sort of, 00:45:55.930 --> 00:46:01.370 kind of sort of listening and trying to keep an idea of what was going on but, 00:46:02.510 --> 00:46:08.410 my my mind was no longer really having it it was sort of like you're kidding 00:46:08.410 --> 00:46:11.950 me right you're still not feeling great you're trying to pay attention to something 00:46:11.950 --> 00:46:14.770 for eight hours fuck that you know well. 00:46:14.770 --> 00:46:20.410 But by the way they saw the news this week new new covid boosters authorized they should be. 00:46:20.410 --> 00:46:22.650 Oh, just in time, assholes. 00:46:23.470 --> 00:46:23.910 Sorry. 00:46:24.110 --> 00:46:33.010 You know, I, you know, and now when I go in next time I see my doctor, 00:46:33.230 --> 00:46:37.150 they're going to be like, no, you just had COVID. You want to wait for the shot anyway. 00:46:37.390 --> 00:46:42.490 So, you know, they could have authorized the damn thing a couple of weeks ago. 00:46:42.590 --> 00:46:45.150 And then, you know, maybe I wouldn't even got it. 00:46:45.630 --> 00:46:46.070 Right. 00:46:46.310 --> 00:46:50.190 So, I mean, I'm sorry. I'm glad the symptoms never got really bad, 00:46:50.330 --> 00:46:57.370 but it's still like this low level, you know, and like, I sound fine now. 00:46:57.490 --> 00:47:02.190 Right. I, you know, I'm, I'm feeling okay, but it's like, you know, 00:47:02.190 --> 00:47:08.050 if I'm up and active and doing things for half an hour, I'm just like, I'm done for a long time. 00:47:08.090 --> 00:47:13.270 And just, it's just, and just constant sort of low grade headache and stuff, 00:47:13.330 --> 00:47:16.990 but it could be a lot worse. I mean, of the possible COVID symptoms, 00:47:17.250 --> 00:47:19.470 this is not bad. So anyway. 00:47:19.790 --> 00:47:22.570 Yeah, these are not bad. So, okay. 00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:22.850 All right. 00:47:22.890 --> 00:47:23.770 Break, break. 00:47:23.930 --> 00:47:26.670 And then we'll do like, what are we, are we doing DNC first? 00:47:27.290 --> 00:47:27.690 Yes. 00:47:27.890 --> 00:47:32.650 Okay. So here's a break. 00:49:15.890 --> 00:49:21.610 Okay, so we kind of started on this at the very beginning of the show. We had the DNC. 00:49:22.690 --> 00:49:23.750 We had the DNC. 00:49:23.750 --> 00:49:32.270 We had the DNC. My wife did try to get in to go there, but did not get picked. 00:49:32.370 --> 00:49:35.330 There were other local people that ended up ahead of her for that. 00:49:35.870 --> 00:49:38.750 and she she by the way had had originally 00:49:38.750 --> 00:49:41.930 decided not to try and then at 00:49:41.930 --> 00:49:44.690 the very last minute like two weeks ago there was an extra 00:49:44.690 --> 00:49:47.570 opening and i actually convinced her 00:49:47.570 --> 00:49:50.270 to like come on and a couple other people were encouraging her to 00:49:50.270 --> 00:49:53.090 to throw her out in the ring for that last spot but somebody 00:49:53.090 --> 00:49:56.410 else got it some yeah some asshole i don't know somebody got 00:49:56.410 --> 00:49:59.450 but but she still she she knew 00:49:59.450 --> 00:50:02.310 lots of people that were there and were texting people who were 00:50:02.310 --> 00:50:05.450 on the floor during the of stuff so so so 00:50:05.450 --> 00:50:09.430 i got a few reports of like okay the washington delegation's got these like 00:50:09.430 --> 00:50:15.150 cowboy hats you know whatever anyway yeah they were wearing like light up cowboy 00:50:15.150 --> 00:50:24.590 hats because of course washington is known for being like a big cowboy place i guess. 00:50:25.810 --> 00:50:30.730 Anyway whatever they i don't it was a massive party they were having fun we 00:50:30.730 --> 00:50:32.890 started talking at the beginning of the show, 00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:43.310 how just the mood like at the, at the DNC was just so like for all four days 00:50:43.310 --> 00:50:47.990 of this thing, the level of excitement was just through the roof. 00:50:48.030 --> 00:50:51.930 Now I've watched a lot of these conventions over the years. 00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:56.650 Back in the day, I used to try to watch them gavel to gavel. 00:50:56.650 --> 00:51:01.070 I haven't done that in a long, long time, but I've watched the major speeches 00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:04.110 in the evening, the roll call vote, those kinds of things. 00:51:04.450 --> 00:51:08.810 I watch part of the Republican one this time around, but not a lot of it. 00:51:09.610 --> 00:51:12.110 But and, you know, like they're always parties. 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:17.000 The Trump Republican ones have been a little bit less of parties, 00:51:17.100 --> 00:51:19.820 to be honest, than even the Republican ones in the past. 00:51:20.540 --> 00:51:27.940 Well, let's see. I'm trying to remember because I don't remember 2016 for either side. 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:32.620 For either of them. 00:51:32.620 --> 00:51:32.800 Okay. 00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:37.220 I do remember. Wasn't the 2021 where they still had it in person anyway, 00:51:37.340 --> 00:51:40.920 and that's how they managed to kill Herman Cain and a few other people? 00:51:42.040 --> 00:51:46.880 They did a hybrid. They did part of it in person and part of it not. 00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:52.280 They did part of the convention from the White House, which isn't technically 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.900 allowed, but they did it anyway. 00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:57.040 way you know that 2020 was really 00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:00.900 weird because of the pandemic on both sides the democratic one was completely 00:52:00.900 --> 00:52:07.300 virtual the republican one was a weird hybrid and in multiple locations you 00:52:07.300 --> 00:52:13.180 know so 2020 is not a real good comparison for anything but like in that in 00:52:13.180 --> 00:52:16.480 in previous years i mean both I mean, 00:52:16.560 --> 00:52:19.320 the conventions are two things. 00:52:20.220 --> 00:52:27.620 The conventions are a massive party for people who are heavily involved with that party. 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.460 I'm using party in two ways there. Party in terms of celebration, 00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:35.780 people getting, you know, and party as in political party. 00:52:36.020 --> 00:52:41.140 But they're a massive party for people who are involved. 00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:46.240 And then they're an infomercial. That is the two purposes of these, 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:51.340 you know, at least since they stopped mattering to pick the candidates. 00:52:51.680 --> 00:52:57.320 Now, there was some talk that this time around on the Democratic side, 00:52:57.500 --> 00:53:01.000 maybe this should be an actual open convention. 00:53:01.780 --> 00:53:09.580 I'm just I'll just say right now, thank fucking God that was not what was happening here. 00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:11.920 We have a dodge to bullet. 00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:15.580 Like, I mean, as much as for years and years and years, it's been like, 00:53:15.620 --> 00:53:19.240 maybe this time we'll have like the contested convention. 00:53:19.720 --> 00:53:24.000 Wouldn't that be so much fun? No, not this year. Thank you. No. 00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:31.800 Like, like we, if, if that had been going on, if we truly had multiple candidates 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.640 vying for the nomination at the convention, 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.480 several of which had a real chance. Yeah. 00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:45.020 Instead of having four days of really inspirational speeches, 00:53:45.260 --> 00:53:51.020 we might well have had four days of ballots where just like, 00:53:51.020 --> 00:53:54.660 you know, when the when the Republicans were trying to pick a goddamn speaker, 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.160 we might have had that at the DNC. 00:53:57.160 --> 00:53:59.300 It would have been ridiculous. 00:53:59.620 --> 00:54:07.040 So I am very, very glad that when Joe Biden dropped out, he immediately endorsed 00:54:07.040 --> 00:54:13.460 Kamala Harris and that whole thought of there being anybody else died within hours. 00:54:14.200 --> 00:54:17.980 If it had gone any other way, it would have been nuts. 00:54:17.980 --> 00:54:22.740 Now, I suppose even if there had been an open process, they would have tried 00:54:22.740 --> 00:54:27.400 to actually have picked somebody before the convention already started, 00:54:27.520 --> 00:54:29.600 but it would have been a mess. 00:54:29.600 --> 00:54:41.740 Instead, we had four days of a party that is so clearly reinvigorated, excited, 00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:48.960 fired up in a way that they have not been for a long, long time. 00:54:50.040 --> 00:54:56.920 I was going to say since 2016, but not even. Like, people were excited about 00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:01.780 Hillary, but there was a lot of lingering tension with Bernie Sanders, you know? 00:55:02.060 --> 00:55:07.060 And if you go back further, you know, 2012 was an incumbent, 00:55:07.240 --> 00:55:09.160 so it's a whole different vibe there. 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:14.080 And in 2008, there was lingering tension between Obama and Hillary. 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:15.000 Hillary. 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:23.620 Hillary, you know, so I can't even remember for sure, like the first Clinton. I don't know. 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:31.000 No, like shit. That race, there was a whole bunch of problems with Clinton. 00:55:31.160 --> 00:55:36.100 There were all the accusations and of course against them during the campaign. 00:55:36.520 --> 00:55:43.020 It was, it was, I mean, there were, there was a dog fight in that, in that campaign. 00:55:43.780 --> 00:55:47.240 I mean, it was definitely not a slam dunk. 00:55:47.500 --> 00:55:49.840 And in between, like, Carrie? No. 00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:51.040 No. 00:55:51.140 --> 00:55:52.020 We didn't have this. 00:55:52.060 --> 00:55:55.440 No, we were not that. I mean, yeah, we didn't. I mean, we liked Carrie. 00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:56.880 We weren't that excited about Carrie. 00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.360 No. And, yeah, who am I missing? There's one more, right? 00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:01.960 Dukakis. 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.780 No, I'm talking after. I mean, Dukakis as well, but, like. 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:07.200 Gore. 00:56:07.420 --> 00:56:09.460 Gore. Yes, Gore. Yes. 00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:14.080 Well, we people kept making fun of Gore because he was boring. 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:16.360 Yeah. Yeah. 00:56:17.180 --> 00:56:20.520 And I mean, he was my kind of boring. I love fucking Al Gore. 00:56:20.640 --> 00:56:22.400 Okay. All right. You know, he would have made. 00:56:23.020 --> 00:56:27.180 Look, if we had had eight years of Al Gore instead of W. Bush. 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:36.140 And, you know, that stupid fucking show for all mankind did that as a fake lot timeline there. 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:40.640 And they actually have his pictures hanging at NASA as the president. 00:56:40.780 --> 00:56:46.220 And I literally almost started crying seeing that. I'm like, you fuckers. 00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:50.120 Yes. Well, that didn't happen. 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:56.480 We've gone all the way back to Mondale and Dukakis. Marcus and before that Carter, 00:56:56.620 --> 00:57:02.260 like, I, I don't know that have any of them had this level of excitement or 00:57:02.260 --> 00:57:04.580 on for that matter on the Republican side too. 00:57:05.120 --> 00:57:09.200 Like, I mean, I know people were, like I said, people were excited about Hillary. 00:57:09.380 --> 00:57:16.240 There was a lot of hype there too, but it feel there were always these other things going on. 00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:22.760 Whereas this time I feel like it's really like Like there's this massive catharsis 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:29.200 going on because people were all in just a month ago, a little bit more than a month ago. 00:57:29.420 --> 00:57:36.040 We're all in the mood to like, we're doing this death march where Biden's way 00:57:36.040 --> 00:57:42.520 behind and maybe he can win and we're going to try, but we're going to do our best, damn it. 00:57:43.180 --> 00:57:45.920 And that gave way to actual like excitement. 00:57:46.950 --> 00:57:51.970 And well, look, I will say that the difference, 00:57:52.050 --> 00:57:58.450 I think, boils down a little bit to what's been happening with undecided voters 00:57:58.450 --> 00:58:03.410 and even give all the shit that you want to. 00:58:03.470 --> 00:58:08.490 I shared this clip and people have been also sharing it and criticizing this 00:58:08.490 --> 00:58:12.650 clip of the CNN little thing that they had with the eight undecided, 00:58:12.650 --> 00:58:16.770 the panel with the eight undecided voters were all but one of which decided to go. 00:58:16.950 --> 00:58:17.770 For Harris afterwards. 00:58:18.630 --> 00:58:19.070 Right. 00:58:19.130 --> 00:58:22.270 Well, I think there was one or two that were still undecided. 00:58:22.290 --> 00:58:24.090 There was one that went to Trump. 00:58:24.190 --> 00:58:26.670 No, there was one undecided. There was one undecided. 00:58:26.670 --> 00:58:27.610 That stayed undecided. 00:58:27.830 --> 00:58:33.270 That stayed undecided. The other six went for Harris. 00:58:33.890 --> 00:58:39.090 And there was one guy that snuck in that apparently was a MAGA Trumper, 00:58:39.190 --> 00:58:42.310 but somehow snuck in saying he was undecided. 00:58:42.450 --> 00:58:42.650 Right. 00:58:42.650 --> 00:58:48.570 And there is plenty of evidence to show that he was a very, very MAGA Trumper, 00:58:48.630 --> 00:58:49.750 that this was just bullshit. 00:58:49.990 --> 00:58:51.850 And I have to say. 00:58:51.870 --> 00:58:54.910 If they'd spent 10 seconds Googling him, they would have known. 00:58:55.230 --> 00:58:59.770 They would have known, no, this guy's not an undecided voter. Definitely not. 00:59:00.350 --> 00:59:04.590 You know, and hell, I spent 10 seconds listening to him and I'm like, 00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:08.270 oh, fuck this. This guy's not an undecided voter. You're fucking kidding me. 00:59:09.230 --> 00:59:15.510 I'm like, it is so. So, but you saw how they, I mean, they were, 00:59:15.550 --> 00:59:19.570 they broke, like, very decisively in that way. 00:59:20.090 --> 00:59:27.470 And the polling data shows that we finally have gotten this situation where 00:59:27.470 --> 00:59:32.730 we're not getting any more of these fucking poll numbers that show, like, 00:59:33.740 --> 00:59:40.160 The vote for the top two leading candidates being like 88% of the total. 00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:40.700 Right. 00:59:40.820 --> 00:59:46.220 Or shit like that. Now we're finally into high 90s. Okay. 00:59:47.080 --> 00:59:49.100 You know, it's falling. 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:56.000 Frank Luntz, who's a Republican leading pollster slash focus group person. 00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:59.600 Some of his commentary, like I think it was like a week ago. 00:59:59.600 --> 01:00:04.140 he basically said that from what he is seeing, not just polls, 01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:06.060 but also in his focus groups, 01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:14.540 basically what we've seen is the undecideds are all breaking to Harris and some 01:00:14.540 --> 01:00:18.360 of the weak Trump voters are flipping to undecided. 01:00:18.580 --> 01:00:25.140 I've also seen plenty of, plenty of analysis also Also of the double haters 01:00:25.140 --> 01:00:28.000 that we've talked about before. Basically. 01:00:28.540 --> 01:00:29.060 Idiots. 01:00:29.720 --> 01:00:30.240 Basically. 01:00:30.740 --> 01:00:35.280 There is. I, I, I, I, listen, those people are, uh, listen, there is one. 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:40.260 I will tell you that there is one fucking guy that I know. I should have known better. 01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:45.180 That's a fucking double hater. I got so angry with him. I blocked them on every 01:00:45.180 --> 01:00:48.160 fucking, I blocked his phone. 01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:53.300 I blocked his Facebook. I blocked his LinkedIn. I blocked them everywhere. 01:00:53.300 --> 01:00:56.220 I just said, I never want to fucking speak to you again. 01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:01.760 Okay. So the double haters, apparently that didn't like Biden or Trump, 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:06.060 a huge portion of them have no issue with Harris. 01:01:06.260 --> 01:01:11.980 So a bunch of the double haters have gone off and are now Harris supporters. 01:01:13.120 --> 01:01:18.660 So double haters are now single haters that only hate Trump because it was Biden 01:01:18.660 --> 01:01:23.760 that they had the problem with. Well, they had a problem with Biden and Trump, 01:01:23.900 --> 01:01:27.080 but apparently are absolutely fine with Harris. 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:34.660 And also, I know we're probably going to talk about RFK later, 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:38.020 his support had been collapsing anyway. 01:01:39.180 --> 01:01:44.440 And he was also a parking lot, essentially, for the double haters. 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.580 And so once Biden got out, like... 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.280 They're like, oh, we like Harris. Never mind then. 01:01:53.420 --> 01:01:57.580 So a bunch of the people who are parked with RFK left for Harris. 01:01:57.740 --> 01:02:01.720 The ones who were left were Trump haters. 01:02:02.120 --> 01:02:09.020 And so we started seeing in the polls, whereas previously, whether RFK took 01:02:09.020 --> 01:02:16.740 from Biden or Trump had been slightly more from Biden than Trump. 01:02:16.740 --> 01:02:19.880 But it seemed to vary state by state, and it was inconsistent. 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:24.320 Sometimes you'd get a poll one way, sometimes the other. But since Biden dropped 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:30.900 out, almost every poll had shown that RFK was hurting Trump more. 01:02:31.380 --> 01:02:34.380 So anyway, and you're absolutely right, though. 01:02:34.460 --> 01:02:40.080 Those numbers of the people who are undecided or third party are collapsing 01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:43.200 dramatically since Harris dropped out. 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.860 No, not since Harris dropped out. That would be bad. That would be news. 01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:54.380 That would be news. Well, Walsh sounds good. I mean, you know, fuck, President Walsh. 01:02:54.420 --> 01:02:56.760 Since Biden dropped out. Yeah. Right. 01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:57.600 Yeah. 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:05.080 Anyway, but people are super excited. The convention, we had a bunch of speeches. And here's the thing. 01:03:06.340 --> 01:03:10.300 Different people, including me and Yvonne, had different impressions of whose 01:03:10.300 --> 01:03:14.740 speech we liked best. But the thing is, they had a variety that appealed to 01:03:14.740 --> 01:03:15.800 a bunch of different people. 01:03:16.060 --> 01:03:20.820 Like some people were more excited about one speech. Some people were more excited about another. 01:03:21.240 --> 01:03:28.760 But there was a parade of really impressive people. You know, even look. 01:03:28.980 --> 01:03:35.140 Let's be clear about this. I don't care who the hell spoke. spoke yep there 01:03:35.140 --> 01:03:42.840 was one decisive mic drop moment of all of these are. 01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:44.020 You going to talk about the dick joke. 01:03:44.020 --> 01:03:57.160 Yes obama had that one i mean he really really damn it i you know not used to 01:03:57.160 --> 01:04:00.300 seeing obama on the stump anymore, right? You know? 01:04:01.220 --> 01:04:06.580 And especially seeing Obama on the stump not being the candidate because... 01:04:07.790 --> 01:04:11.450 Obama on the stump as a candidate was you 01:04:11.450 --> 01:04:15.310 know i was talking about biden being a little bit more conservative probably 01:04:15.310 --> 01:04:19.890 been a bit a little bit reserved but now he's just a surrogate he's not he's 01:04:19.890 --> 01:04:31.750 not the candidate right and let's face it obama despises trump okay obama fucking despises Trump. 01:04:32.330 --> 01:04:35.510 And I'm with him. Okay. All right. He's my buddy on that one. 01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:39.130 I got your back, Obama. I mean, I'm with you. Okay. 01:04:39.390 --> 01:04:45.390 And so when he goes and he threw that entire line where he's saying about this 01:04:45.390 --> 01:04:49.870 78 year old guy that ever since he rode down the golden escalator, 01:04:50.050 --> 01:04:54.390 he's been just, you know, it's been just a barrage of grievances, 01:04:54.410 --> 01:05:00.510 you know, about all sorts of things, name calling and then obsession with crowd sizes. 01:05:00.630 --> 01:05:05.750 And he did that ad thing and everybody just do what he meant with ad thing. 01:05:05.930 --> 01:05:10.310 And the crowd just exploded. Okay. 01:05:10.510 --> 01:05:15.930 All right. And not just the crowd exploded, the internet exploded because that 01:05:15.930 --> 01:05:21.690 right now has been such a meme for everything and anything right now on the 01:05:21.690 --> 01:05:24.930 internet that that was just, that was, yeah. 01:05:25.050 --> 01:05:29.990 And, and let's be clear about this. As many have said, the most effective tactic 01:05:29.990 --> 01:05:32.410 against Trump has been this. 01:05:32.950 --> 01:05:35.890 He was just completely flummoxed. 01:05:36.450 --> 01:05:42.810 He had no fucking, he tried to do a comeback, do that, and he had nothing. 01:05:43.430 --> 01:05:46.630 He had nothing. He came out sounding like a bumbling idiot. 01:05:46.890 --> 01:05:52.410 Well, just in general, I mean, and I guess, you know, back in 2016, 01:05:53.050 --> 01:05:56.590 Rubio tried this kind of crap, but just didn't do it well. 01:05:56.590 --> 01:05:59.390 Yeah, but Rubio's a fucking moron anyway. 01:05:59.410 --> 01:06:04.350 I know, but during the Republican primary process, of course, is when I'm talking. 01:06:04.350 --> 01:06:14.870 But look, the mockery, the weird stuff, the, this finally, 01:06:15.270 --> 01:06:26.930 finally, the approach is one of tearing down and belittling Trump and the people who follow him. 01:06:26.930 --> 01:06:35.530 rather than like making him bigger by talking about how dangerous and scary he is and. 01:06:35.530 --> 01:06:43.530 Doing it in a way that is the way that it is it's it's not hey you're a moron 01:06:43.530 --> 01:06:47.090 no you're stupid no not that way, 01:06:48.270 --> 01:06:51.550 the weird thing is far 01:06:51.550 --> 01:06:58.910 more effective than anything else because it's accurate yeah i mean you've got 01:06:58.910 --> 01:07:03.950 a guy you know i think the other guy was talking about this clinton was did 01:07:03.950 --> 01:07:09.130 his speech he sounds listen you want to talk about old clinton sounds old yeah okay bill bill clinton, 01:07:09.750 --> 01:07:15.510 and eddie is younger than biden and he sounds old okay all right but but you 01:07:15.510 --> 01:07:17.970 know clinton hit this on the head? 01:07:18.210 --> 01:07:23.230 The hell is this guy obsessing about fucking Hannibal Lecter, for God's sakes? 01:07:24.190 --> 01:07:27.330 Why? I mean, you want to talk about weird? 01:07:27.930 --> 01:07:36.190 It's going on the stump and praising, singing the praises of Hannibal Lecter. 01:07:36.490 --> 01:07:42.390 Of the late, great Hannibal Lecter, which is a fictional character that was 01:07:42.390 --> 01:07:47.390 not dead in the movies, but he apparently is killing for whatever the hell damn reason. 01:07:47.390 --> 01:07:48.290 On the. 01:07:48.290 --> 01:07:57.470 Stump what else is weirder than that seriously so so so. 01:07:57.470 --> 01:07:58.210 Weird is. 01:07:58.210 --> 01:08:02.190 Accurate and powerful at the same time. 01:08:02.190 --> 01:08:06.350 Yeah and just real quick to to run down a few of the highlights that were good 01:08:06.350 --> 01:08:08.810 i mean hillary clinton gave a great speech, 01:08:09.390 --> 01:08:12.130 joe biden great gave a great speech gave a great 01:08:12.130 --> 01:08:15.330 speech both joe's speech was really good 01:08:15.330 --> 01:08:18.130 joe's speech was really good it was one of the best 01:08:18.130 --> 01:08:24.010 i've ever seen him do i was i was crying by the end you know it was it was like 01:08:24.010 --> 01:08:30.150 emotional it was it was good you know both obama's michelle and barack gave 01:08:30.150 --> 01:08:34.050 excellent speeches i actually liked michelle's better than barack's i know I 01:08:34.050 --> 01:08:36.330 know you like Barack better than Michelle, but like they were. 01:08:36.350 --> 01:08:41.930 They were both speaking of Joe, you guys say you got, I got a letter from Joe. 01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:42.870 Yes. 01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:44.870 I said, give a shit. 01:08:45.190 --> 01:08:51.190 Well, you got a standard form letter for sending something to the White House. You know, exciting. 01:08:51.330 --> 01:08:54.030 But it's signed by Joe. I mean, for all you know. 01:08:54.190 --> 01:09:00.450 Well, it's signed by, hey, hey, we got Christmas cards from both Kamala and 01:09:00.450 --> 01:09:03.310 Joe because my wife's an elected official now. 01:09:03.630 --> 01:09:06.750 And so we got Christmas cards for both of them. A nice little signature, 01:09:06.870 --> 01:09:08.930 like the White House stationery, blah, blah, blah. 01:09:09.050 --> 01:09:12.870 I mean, I got White House stationery with Joe's signature. I mean, 01:09:12.910 --> 01:09:15.130 you know, hell. hell, I mean, it's a hell of a lot better than, 01:09:15.150 --> 01:09:16.150 you know, not getting anything. 01:09:16.650 --> 01:09:22.210 That's true. That's true. I'm sure if you called up Joe, he'd be like, 01:09:22.310 --> 01:09:24.210 oh, Yvonne, I sent you that letter. 01:09:24.490 --> 01:09:29.710 Yes, of course. How you doing, buddy? Well, for all we, listen, you know what? 01:09:29.770 --> 01:09:33.310 I know that for, you know, there's one thing that I've heard that some of them 01:09:33.310 --> 01:09:35.090 do look at some of the letters personally. 01:09:35.170 --> 01:09:37.670 For all we know, that's the one that he did look at personally. 01:09:37.670 --> 01:09:41.990 It could be like, I don't think Donald did this, 01:09:42.090 --> 01:09:51.410 but the last few presidents other than Donald had a thing where every week they'd 01:09:51.410 --> 01:09:55.790 get a handful of letters randomly selected from all of those who arrived at 01:09:55.790 --> 01:10:01.050 the White House that they would be given to read personally and potentially respond personally. 01:10:02.330 --> 01:10:07.970 And, you know, yes, they do that. So, yeah, it was probably that, 01:10:07.990 --> 01:10:09.190 Yvonne. It was probably that. 01:10:09.310 --> 01:10:12.130 I mean, well, I'm not saying it's probable, but it's possible. 01:10:12.310 --> 01:10:17.750 It's possible. It's possible. Yeah. So, my one question, what did you write 01:10:17.750 --> 01:10:19.110 to Joe that got this response? 01:10:20.070 --> 01:10:21.970 I just wanted to thank him for his service. 01:10:22.630 --> 01:10:23.610 Nice. Okay. 01:10:24.190 --> 01:10:26.550 That's it. I just wrote him a note to thank him for his service. 01:10:27.130 --> 01:10:29.610 And that's why, you know, that was like at the beginning of the letter, 01:10:29.670 --> 01:10:32.470 you know, that he said that, you know, that he is, you know, 01:10:32.470 --> 01:10:36.610 thank you for writing to me. has been an honor of my life to serve you as your president. 01:10:36.670 --> 01:10:39.710 I have been blessed with the love and support of the American people and I am 01:10:39.710 --> 01:10:41.710 grateful to know that I have earned yours. 01:10:41.970 --> 01:10:45.390 Very nice. Anyway, both Obamas had a great speech. 01:10:45.910 --> 01:10:50.130 Walls had a great speech. Oh, AOC on the first night had a great speech. 01:10:50.150 --> 01:10:51.630 AOC had a great speech. 01:10:52.250 --> 01:10:57.470 You know, and of course, Kamala Harris herself did excellent on the... 01:10:57.470 --> 01:11:01.390 I have to admit that, look, I watched a number of the speeches, but look, 01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:05.100 uh that i could not well there was a couple of reasons i was 01:11:05.100 --> 01:11:08.820 actually flying on thursday night ah right and 01:11:08.820 --> 01:11:12.040 i i was not able 01:11:12.040 --> 01:11:14.840 to watch the speech even if i really wanted to but i 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:19.240 i will say that look i could not stay up i don't understand why they're playing 01:11:19.240 --> 01:11:23.460 well i look i know that for the west coast people obviously this was a blessing 01:11:23.460 --> 01:11:28.640 that it was done at this hour but for me at the the east coast those damn speeches 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:33.720 were really damn late yeah i good lord especially. 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.540 On the first night they went way over but even 01:11:36.540 --> 01:11:41.200 on the other it's like and this has happened at other conventions of course 01:11:41.200 --> 01:11:46.900 like i mean including the famous bill clinton speech but you'd think they'd 01:11:46.900 --> 01:11:55.360 learn by this time i mean just just start a little bit earlier yeah you guys can do it like You got. 01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:59.240 To target for the primetime speech to be at 9.30. 01:11:59.460 --> 01:12:03.080 Well, I was going to say between 10 and 11, but you can't go past 11. 01:12:03.820 --> 01:12:09.180 You can't go past 11. It's got to end by 11. It's got to start 10, 10.30. 01:12:09.340 --> 01:12:13.680 By 11 Eastern. And I know the convention itself was in Chicago, 01:12:13.860 --> 01:12:14.960 which is in Central Time. 01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:20.100 And I've heard people saying, well, you can't go too early or you lose the West Coast people. 01:12:20.280 --> 01:12:24.040 Come on. You got to be done by 11 p.m. Eastern. 01:12:24.040 --> 01:12:29.580 I'm sorry i'm okay with being done by 11 30 but some of this shit went way past 01:12:29.580 --> 01:12:32.920 midnight and i was like holy shit i can't remember which one was the one that 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:37.280 went way past midnight i'm like going fuck i can't really stay up watching this 01:12:37.280 --> 01:12:39.860 yeah now of course here on. 01:12:39.860 --> 01:12:43.160 The west coast that was like you're done by 9 30 that's absolutely fine. 01:12:43.160 --> 01:12:47.180 I know you were no you were no you guys were no you guys are you guys are great 01:12:47.180 --> 01:12:52.640 no you guys are this is this is great for us yeah but. 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:57.200 I i as Aside from the speeches, I did want to mention, you know, 01:12:57.240 --> 01:13:02.100 you had mentioned the weird thing. 01:13:02.180 --> 01:13:08.860 The other thing that I think is brilliant and way overdue, I think the weird stuff is overdue too. 01:13:08.980 --> 01:13:16.880 And I think we mentioned in the last couple of weeks, it's the Democrats reclaiming, 01:13:17.650 --> 01:13:23.650 themselves as normal, as the center of politics. 01:13:24.590 --> 01:13:27.330 Whereas it seemed, and I've seen some people analyze and say, 01:13:27.390 --> 01:13:33.870 ever since the 1960s almost, the Democrats have always seemed to be in a little 01:13:33.870 --> 01:13:35.370 bit of a defensive crouch. 01:13:36.490 --> 01:13:43.250 Like when the Republicans accused them of being the liberal elites and blah, 01:13:43.370 --> 01:13:48.530 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that Democrats have almost been apologetic of saying, 01:13:48.730 --> 01:13:54.050 oh, yeah, we do believe in civil rights, but we're kind of sorry about it. 01:13:54.610 --> 01:13:59.330 I mean, not quite, but even more recently, 01:13:59.450 --> 01:14:05.670 it's just sort of like, whether it's gay rights or on whatever of these social 01:14:05.670 --> 01:14:10.630 issues, It's sort of like the conservative heartland is normal. 01:14:10.810 --> 01:14:14.790 And yes, we are deviating from that as liberals. 01:14:14.910 --> 01:14:19.210 And they always bought into the conservative framing of that. 01:14:19.330 --> 01:14:29.370 Whereas really, for a while now, the liberal positions on all of these culture 01:14:29.370 --> 01:14:31.530 war issues have been in the majority. 01:14:31.530 --> 01:14:40.310 So it's damn right it's time to stop apologizing and own that and love it and 01:14:40.310 --> 01:14:44.530 be on the offensive with it and know the Republicans are the weirdos. 01:14:44.610 --> 01:14:50.490 But in addition to that, the other things that the Democrats are reclaiming 01:14:50.490 --> 01:14:56.030 this time around in a way that they may have tried to before but never really 01:14:56.030 --> 01:15:00.570 got it to work is patriotism and freedom. 01:15:00.570 --> 01:15:05.770 Freedom especially freedom yes you know because this is because that's been 01:15:05.770 --> 01:15:11.610 the big that and yes because that has been the biggest fuck up that these guys 01:15:11.610 --> 01:15:16.110 you're talking about freedom these are the guys that are hate freedom the most 01:15:16.110 --> 01:15:19.530 they don't want people to be free to choose anything. 01:15:20.230 --> 01:15:24.090 Right they're all about controlling behavior and if you're not. 01:15:24.090 --> 01:15:24.870 Doing what's. 01:15:24.870 --> 01:15:33.270 Quote unquote quote unquote normal, you know, like 1950s conservative way is 01:15:33.270 --> 01:15:36.430 deviant and you shouldn't be doing it and it should be illegal. 01:15:36.510 --> 01:15:43.050 And if not illegal, then definitely shunned. And, you know, no. 01:15:44.710 --> 01:15:50.390 And yes. And so the Democrats have been reclaiming that. 01:15:50.430 --> 01:15:52.930 There were flags everywhere for the patriotism. 01:15:53.030 --> 01:15:58.030 There was all kinds of places where they were calling on people to, 01:15:58.210 --> 01:16:01.790 you know, this is the American way. 01:16:01.850 --> 01:16:09.130 This is the, the true spirit of America, et cetera, et cetera, in ways that like. 01:16:11.090 --> 01:16:14.390 Democrats haven't pulled off in a long time, to be honest. 01:16:14.570 --> 01:16:20.570 The Republicans have owned the like flag waving and the jingoistic stuff. 01:16:20.630 --> 01:16:24.570 And not that the Democrats were being super jingoistic, and that might be the 01:16:24.570 --> 01:16:30.610 wrong word, but they've been holding the like, no, we are patriotic. 01:16:30.690 --> 01:16:32.450 We don't hate America. America? 01:16:32.710 --> 01:16:35.490 The Republicans have been going 01:16:35.490 --> 01:16:41.550 on for decades about how the Democrats are un-American, unpatriotic. No. 01:16:42.350 --> 01:16:48.650 The Democrats are pushing this time around the idea that no, these ideas, 01:16:48.890 --> 01:16:55.750 the ideas that they're pushing are in fact the best of America and that this 01:16:55.750 --> 01:16:57.990 is the right way to go forward for the country. 01:16:58.110 --> 01:17:00.790 And yes, we're proud of it and blah, blah, blah. 01:17:00.790 --> 01:17:06.130 Well, reading from Joe's letter to me, the one line about this that's specific, 01:17:06.250 --> 01:17:12.270 and I'm reading it because this was part of the stump, but part of what is the 01:17:12.270 --> 01:17:13.750 character of what you're talking about. 01:17:15.450 --> 01:17:20.370 This was the message that I saw, which was America remains the most powerful 01:17:20.370 --> 01:17:24.790 idea, that we're all created equal and deserve to be treated equally throughout our lives. 01:17:24.850 --> 01:17:28.450 The idea is stronger than any of us. While we've never fully lived up to it, 01:17:28.490 --> 01:17:32.570 we're never walked away from it either. And I know that we will not walk away from it now. 01:17:32.670 --> 01:17:36.990 And I think that that's the core of like owning that freedom. What is America? 01:17:37.310 --> 01:17:40.890 What the heck it is? It's an idea we haven't ever achieved. No. 01:17:41.050 --> 01:17:47.590 But what it is, is that entire amalgam of all these people instead of a whole bunch of fucking. 01:17:49.280 --> 01:17:55.020 white racists sitting up there having some idiot like all colgan tear off his 01:17:55.020 --> 01:17:56.860 shirt and act like an asshole on stage. 01:17:56.860 --> 01:18:01.980 Right well and one of the you know i can't remember if it was vance or one of 01:18:01.980 --> 01:18:07.640 the project 2025 people or somebody but one of these folks that is loosely one 01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:12.340 of these folks in the orbit of the trump campaign i can't remember which one 01:18:12.340 --> 01:18:15.960 orbit uh orbit they found they found an, 01:18:16.740 --> 01:18:21.100 They found an interview where they had specifically like, we're talking about 01:18:21.100 --> 01:18:24.540 the notion, like what you just said, like, what is America? 01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:29.620 America is the only country that is fundamentally about an idea. 01:18:30.220 --> 01:18:33.960 It's not a, it's not a, it's not a people. It's not an ethnicity. 01:18:34.220 --> 01:18:38.220 It's a whatever. This person, they unearthed an interview of him saying, 01:18:38.360 --> 01:18:41.040 no, America is not an idea. 01:18:41.940 --> 01:18:47.300 You know, America is a people, you know? The white people. 01:18:47.380 --> 01:18:50.160 He didn't explicitly say that, but it was clearly implied. 01:18:50.400 --> 01:18:53.460 The whole notion of it was it's not an idea. 01:18:53.580 --> 01:18:59.540 It's about sort of traditional white male Christian culture, 01:18:59.980 --> 01:19:03.000 Christian conservative culture specifically. 01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:06.480 There's lots of other kinds of Christian that don't go that way. 01:19:07.860 --> 01:19:11.480 But yeah, it's like this is key. 01:19:11.480 --> 01:19:16.180 And I think that the Democrats are doing a really good job of reclaiming these 01:19:16.180 --> 01:19:23.700 things and to start and going back to the weird thing to really push the idea that no, 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:30.080 it's these jackasses on the other side who are out of step with the reality 01:19:30.080 --> 01:19:33.200 and the values of America today. day. 01:19:34.180 --> 01:19:37.320 And we'll see if it works. 01:19:37.380 --> 01:19:42.060 I mean, so far, so good over the last few weeks, but, you know, 01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:45.220 we got a long way to go till November still, but yeah. 01:19:45.420 --> 01:19:50.840 And, and as I talked about last week, you know, we, we Kamala Harris has sort 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:58.940 of surged ahead to a tie, you know, where it's, we're not yet at the position where we can say like, 01:19:59.140 --> 01:20:06.360 oh yeah, she's got this in the bag, not even close i wish we were at that spot but not yet um. 01:20:06.360 --> 01:20:13.900 No it's not it's gonna be a fight it's not in the bad until the fat lady sinks 01:20:13.900 --> 01:20:19.000 is that still a proper slate you know is that an acceptable for say the fat lady sing i. 01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.000 Don't know it sounds uh. 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:21.540 It sounds. 01:20:21.540 --> 01:20:23.060 Like body shaming to me yvonne. 01:20:23.060 --> 01:20:30.640 Yeah fuck so what so till the shit now i gotta look there. 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:34.840 There's a website that has like alternative phrases for. 01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:42.880 I'm actually problematic yeah i'm gonna look it up inclusive version of. 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:43.960 The fat lady sing. 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:45.240 Yeah you know. 01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:51.580 The only other thing, just to circle back around while you're looking that up, 01:20:51.740 --> 01:20:57.140 is back to where we were at the beginning of the show and the energy levels. 01:20:57.940 --> 01:21:04.800 Comparing this to the RNC, the RNC sort of dutifully did their thing. 01:21:05.100 --> 01:21:08.840 There were people who were excited about Trump, to be clear. 01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:14.760 But the energy levels were night and day. 01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.480 Oh, God, yes. 01:21:17.480 --> 01:21:26.140 And the level of excitement on the democratic side and it is off the charts right now. 01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:30.020 Will it like, will it be enough to bring things home in November? 01:21:30.200 --> 01:21:34.320 I don't know, but right now everything's going into right direction. 01:21:34.500 --> 01:21:39.360 The trends towards Harris and the polls have not yet stopped. 01:21:39.980 --> 01:21:44.540 If it, you know, if you, if you look week, week over week, my tipping, 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:49.360 point is actually a little bit less in Harris's direction this week than last week. 01:21:49.540 --> 01:21:53.560 But a bunch of other states kept moving in her direction anyway. 01:21:54.140 --> 01:21:58.260 North Carolina just went to the blue side of the line for the first time. 01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.940 So the trends are still overall heading towards Harris. 01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:07.520 It's got to flatten out at some point, you'd think, but it hasn't yet. 01:22:08.360 --> 01:22:15.440 And not to repeat conversation from last week, but Trump still hasn't figured 01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:17.260 out how to counter this stuff. 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:24.300 After Harris's speech, he got on Fox news seconds later and was so rambly and incoherent. 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:28.800 The Fox news hosts tried to like get him off the phone as quickly as they could. 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:33.500 Cause he was just like going off on his usual things and not making a lot of 01:22:33.500 --> 01:22:36.340 sense and saying things that were clearly not true. 01:22:36.460 --> 01:22:40.580 And so they hung up on him and he immediately called Newsmax and did the same 01:22:40.580 --> 01:22:48.100 thing he he is he has not found his stride yet and so listen. 01:22:48.100 --> 01:22:49.680 Here's a bigger problem. 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:55.240 Yeah about the stride yes he looks bad disheveled. 01:22:55.240 --> 01:22:59.420 Yes despondent like incoherent. 01:22:59.420 --> 01:23:01.000 Old old. 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:06.540 Really old he looks a complete shambles um. 01:23:06.540 --> 01:23:10.220 You'd think he'd got you'd think at the very least you'd have people to fix 01:23:10.220 --> 01:23:15.940 that up for him before he goes in public but but but he hasn't been looking great he. 01:23:15.940 --> 01:23:20.540 Had to look at great but it's just it's beyond that it's just how he's sounding. 01:23:20.540 --> 01:23:21.600 He is. 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.120 Sounding completely defeated. 01:23:23.120 --> 01:23:24.700 Okay yes when. 01:23:24.700 --> 01:23:29.540 He's going out there the other day he was talking well all these These people, 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:37.680 they just tell me to stick to policy and not go after them. 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:39.880 Well, they're going after me. 01:23:40.930 --> 01:23:44.290 And I mean, who the fuck wants to listen to this shit? 01:23:45.230 --> 01:23:49.110 Well, clearly not even his own side, because they've been telling him to stop. 01:23:49.810 --> 01:23:54.810 Not just that, but people keep walking out. The fucking crowd's up and thinner 01:23:54.810 --> 01:23:56.070 and thinner and thinner. 01:23:56.590 --> 01:24:00.690 So obsessed about the crowd size, I didn't realize that during the attendance 01:24:00.690 --> 01:24:02.090 season it wasn't even that great. 01:24:02.090 --> 01:24:07.170 Someone posted like some pictures of one of his recent rallies where at the 01:24:07.170 --> 01:24:12.570 beginning of his speech, you know, they pack people in directly behind him in 01:24:12.570 --> 01:24:14.090 order for all the pictures. 01:24:14.190 --> 01:24:19.330 While he's giving the speech, they want to look like a big crowd right behind him. 01:24:19.490 --> 01:24:24.090 And like then there are pictures of, okay, there are people checking their phone 01:24:24.090 --> 01:24:25.890 immediately behind them. 01:24:25.890 --> 01:24:31.830 like the people are standing in camera view right behind him checking their 01:24:31.830 --> 01:24:36.990 phone looking at their watch and then by the end of him talking a whole bunch 01:24:36.990 --> 01:24:42.570 of them have left from the seats right behind him not even like the high bleachers 01:24:42.570 --> 01:24:45.590 but like the ones who are on camera they're they're. 01:24:45.590 --> 01:24:48.570 Not there the people are not there they're like okay we're done with this shit. 01:24:48.570 --> 01:24:49.610 I mean you know get me. 01:24:49.610 --> 01:24:50.430 The fuck out of here. 01:24:50.430 --> 01:24:56.550 You know like i said like polling wise we've still got a neck and neck race 01:24:56.550 --> 01:25:00.050 on a country-wide basis like it's you know but well. 01:25:00.050 --> 01:25:02.610 Listen sam but the swing has been. 01:25:02.610 --> 01:25:06.610 Oh the swing has been absolutely dramatic and and and it's. 01:25:06.610 --> 01:25:10.990 A seven point swing right now on the 538 average i mean. 01:25:10.990 --> 01:25:15.730 From where it was where it is yeah and and we're we're almost like last i checked 01:25:15.730 --> 01:25:16.690 you're looking at right now. 01:25:16.890 --> 01:25:20.850 Last I checked, it was 3.7% Harris lead, something like that. 01:25:21.210 --> 01:25:25.570 Yeah, so it was like a 3% the other way, like, you know, for Biden before. 01:25:25.750 --> 01:25:31.050 Oh, it has been an absolutely huge swing. At the state level, 01:25:31.230 --> 01:25:35.370 we've talked before, that lags a little bit, and the motion is still continuing. 01:25:35.510 --> 01:25:37.810 Right now, I have the tipping point at... 01:25:38.670 --> 01:25:43.090 Harris ahead by 0.7% in North Carolina now, not in Pennsylvania. 01:25:43.330 --> 01:25:47.650 Both Pennsylvania and North Carolina are at 0.7%, but if you look at the rounding, 01:25:47.790 --> 01:25:48.870 North Carolina's a little ahead. 01:25:50.810 --> 01:25:59.630 So yeah, it's dramatic, but like you said, Trump is now the one that's coming across as low energy. 01:26:00.130 --> 01:26:06.870 Trump is now the one who's coming across as addled and older and not up to the 01:26:06.870 --> 01:26:11.350 task. you know harris is like 20 years younger almost. 01:26:11.350 --> 01:26:16.210 Okay i finally found a good alternative yeah okay all right after going through 01:26:16.210 --> 01:26:19.670 a whole bunch of them that were boring this one sounds better than the other 01:26:19.670 --> 01:26:24.730 ones okay okay don't count your chickens before they hatch okay yeah, 01:26:25.890 --> 01:26:28.510 yeah there you go that that's a good good. 01:26:28.510 --> 01:26:32.510 One it has a slightly different tone to it but in the end it means the same thing yeah. 01:26:32.510 --> 01:26:35.290 Yes yes yes so okay and. 01:26:35.290 --> 01:26:37.030 We and we don't have to talk about fat ladies. 01:26:37.510 --> 01:26:41.030 No no no no don't cut your chickens before they hatch okay so there you go i 01:26:41.030 --> 01:26:42.470 like that one there you go and. 01:26:42.470 --> 01:26:47.810 And we would be and we can't say you know until yvonne sings because you're 01:26:47.810 --> 01:26:48.930 saying at the beginning of the show. 01:26:48.930 --> 01:26:55.010 Exactly i already did so there you go yeah i mean you know yeah yeah so we started 01:26:55.010 --> 01:26:59.010 it yeah so that way we would have finished this already so anyway okay. 01:26:59.010 --> 01:27:05.310 I suggest we take another break real quick and then wrap it up with a few. 01:27:05.310 --> 01:27:06.010 Minor things. 01:27:06.330 --> 01:27:10.730 Back after this is. 01:27:48.750 --> 01:27:51.570 Okay i well since i'm going since i'm 01:27:51.570 --> 01:27:54.310 going to vegas in two weeks i i thought of another one that i 01:27:54.310 --> 01:27:57.770 i forgot don't don't don't don't spend the money until you cash in your chips 01:27:57.770 --> 01:28:01.470 so there you go which is you know very important that the casino people already 01:28:01.470 --> 01:28:05.210 are like usually at the thing oh look all this money and they're still gambling 01:28:05.210 --> 01:28:08.290 anyway so then all of a sudden a couple of hours later they're already upside 01:28:08.290 --> 01:28:12.410 down like whatever and spend everything no don't spend the money until you. 01:28:12.410 --> 01:28:17.270 Know all every time i've ever been in an establishment that does that except 01:28:17.270 --> 01:28:23.770 Except once I have been disciplined and I start out with one pocket with what 01:28:23.770 --> 01:28:25.570 I want to spend for the night. 01:28:25.570 --> 01:28:27.070 And I. 01:28:27.070 --> 01:28:30.870 Put my winnings in a separate pocket and. 01:28:30.870 --> 01:28:33.570 Never regamble a cent. 01:28:33.790 --> 01:28:39.510 So like if I, if I'm like spending, so it's not even, I'll go until I've lost $20. 01:28:40.170 --> 01:28:45.490 It's, it's, I have $20 and once I've gambled that $20, I'm done no matter how 01:28:45.490 --> 01:28:49.430 much I have in my pocket or, or whatever, or whatever the amount was. 01:28:49.830 --> 01:28:59.010 The one time I did not do that was the time I really should have. I, I, okay. 01:29:00.050 --> 01:29:03.350 I don't, I don't, I've told this story, but it's been a long, 01:29:03.410 --> 01:29:04.730 long time since I told the story. 01:29:04.810 --> 01:29:08.350 So I'll mention it again. Again, this was when I was doing my random trips and 01:29:08.350 --> 01:29:12.310 I had done a random trip to Nevada. 01:29:13.290 --> 01:29:17.930 I, or maybe this was the one to California, but right in Northern California 01:29:17.930 --> 01:29:21.050 next. Anyway, I ended up in Reno by the end. 01:29:21.050 --> 01:29:22.250 Okay. You ended up in Reno. Okay. 01:29:22.290 --> 01:29:25.370 I think, I think this was one where I was in California and I went across the 01:29:25.370 --> 01:29:26.310 border to Reno, whatever. 01:29:27.330 --> 01:29:34.910 But here's the thing. I had miscalculated something. I had done something stupid, whatever. 01:29:35.530 --> 01:29:42.170 I, I ended up when I got to Reno, which was like, I don't know, 48 hours. 01:29:42.270 --> 01:29:48.950 I was supposed to be heading back soon, but I was out of money and I was out 01:29:48.950 --> 01:29:55.690 of money in terms of like my, my credit cards and debit cards were all maxed out too. 01:29:55.810 --> 01:30:00.890 Like I was, I hadn't, I had miscalculated what I was doing on the trip, whatever. 01:30:00.890 --> 01:30:09.990 I literally had like 20 bucks left to my name in order to finish my vacation, 01:30:10.230 --> 01:30:14.210 get to the airport and fly back to New Jersey. Okay. 01:30:14.290 --> 01:30:16.130 That's really, that's really tight. 01:30:16.250 --> 01:30:18.330 Something like that. Anyway. 01:30:20.290 --> 01:30:25.290 So, well, I don't recall you asking me to Western Union you money, 01:30:25.450 --> 01:30:27.670 you know, I saw how you made it back. 01:30:27.770 --> 01:30:32.150 I did make it back. I did not. I did not end up having to pull the Yvonne, 01:30:32.190 --> 01:30:39.750 please help me card because I went into the casino in Reno and I had, 01:30:39.810 --> 01:30:44.150 I remember at this point I had 75 cents. 01:30:44.710 --> 01:30:48.150 I, I, I, I may have had, I may have had some bills. 01:30:48.150 --> 01:30:50.190 Wait, you were down to 75 cents? 01:30:50.270 --> 01:30:53.290 Something like this. I was down to 75 cents. 01:30:54.070 --> 01:30:58.230 Okay, I don't revert to this story right now, okay? So I'm perking up, okay? 01:30:58.430 --> 01:31:01.030 I paid a quarter in the slot machine. 01:31:01.710 --> 01:31:02.370 Uh-huh. 01:31:02.430 --> 01:31:03.670 And I won 300 bucks. 01:31:04.590 --> 01:31:05.950 No fucking way. 01:31:06.150 --> 01:31:12.150 Get out of here. And I'm like, okay, I'm good. I could get a hotel room for 01:31:12.150 --> 01:31:13.510 the night. I could do whatever. 01:31:13.510 --> 01:31:14.470 Yeah. 01:31:15.610 --> 01:31:18.750 But then I, this is the one time I broke my rule. 01:31:18.910 --> 01:31:21.850 I got excited that I won 300 bucks on the quarter. 01:31:22.010 --> 01:31:28.650 So I kept going and I re-gambled the 300 bucks until I was down to like 20 bucks again. 01:31:34.430 --> 01:31:34.950 Okay. 01:31:34.950 --> 01:31:38.470 So how did you wait? So how do you make it then? 01:31:39.170 --> 01:31:44.570 I i believe i just drove straight to the airport and ended up catching an earlier flight home. 01:31:44.570 --> 01:31:47.950 Okay you know you know 01:31:47.950 --> 01:31:51.130 what i i will say that there's 01:31:51.130 --> 01:31:54.150 this one time yeah that i went to a roulette 01:31:54.150 --> 01:31:57.290 table and i i had my friend that 01:31:57.290 --> 01:32:00.830 she wanted to go with me to saint thomas yeah and 01:32:00.830 --> 01:32:03.690 i was like well shit i don't know i i might have 01:32:03.690 --> 01:32:06.690 been able to get my father to purchase a 01:32:06.690 --> 01:32:09.710 ticket it at the travel agency but i was like i don't 01:32:09.710 --> 01:32:12.950 know i don't want to just ask him for the money like that and 01:32:12.950 --> 01:32:17.530 so i was at roulette table the casino and i went i put twenty dollars on an 01:32:17.530 --> 01:32:22.770 eight to one bet i said look if we hit i'll buy you the ticket okay should be 01:32:22.770 --> 01:32:28.390 more than enough to cover it's only about 100 120 bucks in order to to get the 01:32:28.390 --> 01:32:32.010 ticket and lo and behold on the On the first shot, I hit it. 01:32:32.030 --> 01:32:37.550 And so I got my $160 and I wound up, but I wound up cashing out immediately 01:32:37.550 --> 01:32:40.530 and buying her the damn airline ticket. Okay. All right. 01:32:40.670 --> 01:32:47.350 Yeah. No, I, I, I want enough money to pay for a hotel and a couple of meals before I had to go home. 01:32:47.730 --> 01:32:50.230 And you managed to piss it all away. 01:32:50.290 --> 01:32:51.650 I pissed it all away instead. 01:32:51.910 --> 01:32:55.250 Well, well, but, but to be fair, you were still ahead. 01:32:55.950 --> 01:32:56.970 Yeah. Yeah. 01:32:57.730 --> 01:33:00.810 I mean, if you think about it, you were still ahead. You only add 75 cents, 01:33:01.290 --> 01:33:04.930 net wind up with 20 bucks. It's still a pretty damn hefty return on your money. 01:33:05.250 --> 01:33:10.250 That's true. It was enough to get me back to the airport and home, I guess. But yeah. 01:33:10.370 --> 01:33:14.810 So anyway, no, I was going to start this segment with something that you would 01:33:14.810 --> 01:33:16.630 put on our list, but I think is, 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:26.000 All of the people who are bitching at Kamala Harris to talk more about policy 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:32.240 and or that she has to do a sit-down interview with the press. 01:33:32.500 --> 01:33:37.640 Why hasn't she talked to the New York Times yet or done an interview on TV? 01:33:38.060 --> 01:33:45.260 And why hasn't she produced detailed policy papers and talked in detail about 01:33:45.260 --> 01:33:47.600 what she was going to do on X, Y, or Z? 01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:54.440 and i'm like if she fucking listens to you i will want to strangle her i mean 01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:57.260 come on the and what a waste. 01:33:57.260 --> 01:33:58.680 Of fucking time. 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:07.600 She knows what she is doing she knows that stuff is idiotic like it yes nobody gives. 01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:13.880 Two flying fucks right now about this in terms of the electorate that That may 01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:17.060 be good later when you're president, 01:34:17.180 --> 01:34:22.860 when you're trying to push certain policies specifically and trying to target 01:34:22.860 --> 01:34:25.720 certain people to transmit certain messages. 01:34:26.220 --> 01:34:30.820 Right now, it is a complete utter waste of time. 01:34:30.940 --> 01:34:35.980 I'd say worse than waste, worse than a waste of time, because if you come out 01:34:35.980 --> 01:34:41.320 with a detailed policy position, all you're doing is giving something that people can attack you with. 01:34:41.970 --> 01:34:43.430 Yes, no matter what you pick. 01:34:43.530 --> 01:34:47.570 They can say, oh, you see, they're going to go and do that thing. 01:34:48.410 --> 01:34:52.250 Hell, I think it was a mistake to start even talking about, even though, 01:34:52.250 --> 01:34:55.910 you know, she's been accused of saying that she was going to do price controls, 01:34:56.150 --> 01:34:58.390 which that's not what that's not even what she. 01:34:58.850 --> 01:35:00.990 I mean, that's the perfect example. Why not to do it? 01:35:01.010 --> 01:35:01.410 Yes. 01:35:01.770 --> 01:35:05.030 She was talking about it's not what she said at all. 01:35:05.590 --> 01:35:09.550 she wasn't saying there anything about price controls what she said was that 01:35:09.550 --> 01:35:14.970 she wanted to expand current regulations on price gouging to make them national as many states have, 01:35:15.590 --> 01:35:19.390 certain rules and restrictions about that and they said that she wanted to institute 01:35:19.390 --> 01:35:23.130 price controls which is nowhere near what she said and it just showed the the 01:35:23.130 --> 01:35:26.830 fucking pitfall of doing this because they're just using it exactly like you 01:35:26.830 --> 01:35:31.350 said ammunition in order to start a fight about it no fuck them no no no waste 01:35:31.350 --> 01:35:34.270 of fucking time waste complete utter fucking time waste. 01:35:34.270 --> 01:35:38.610 Of time would not be helpful in any way. And even the interview, 01:35:38.870 --> 01:35:47.790 like, have you looked at like mainstream press interviews of presidential candidates and such lately? 01:35:48.410 --> 01:35:53.310 They're, they're worthless too. They're, I mean, like those last couple interviews 01:35:53.310 --> 01:35:57.790 of Biden, like, did they ask him about anything meaningful? 01:35:57.950 --> 01:36:01.130 No, they just spent the whole time talking about, well, are you going to drop 01:36:01.130 --> 01:36:05.110 out are you too old are you this are you that like there was nothing actually 01:36:05.110 --> 01:36:08.950 valuable about those conversations and let's talk. 01:36:08.950 --> 01:36:14.350 About policy for one second you know tonight today there was this when was this 01:36:14.350 --> 01:36:18.350 this is today donald j trump talking about policy. 01:36:18.350 --> 01:36:19.770 11 39 a.m. 01:36:19.770 --> 01:36:24.970 On truth social goes and says my administration will be great for women and 01:36:24.970 --> 01:36:26.010 their reproductive rights, 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.680 What the, you know. 01:36:28.780 --> 01:36:36.020 Look here, here's the thing about policy, what people push, what policy matters. 01:36:36.140 --> 01:36:39.120 Like we, we are, we are wonks here. 01:36:39.240 --> 01:36:44.200 If you're listening to the show, you care about policy. You care about the details of policy. 01:36:44.420 --> 01:36:48.240 But when we're talking a general election race for president here. 01:36:48.420 --> 01:36:50.040 That's not going to win. 01:36:50.160 --> 01:36:54.140 That's not going to win. Like would people, one of the things people criticized 01:36:54.140 --> 01:36:58.820 Biden about at the stupid debate bait that he flubbed was he started talking 01:36:58.820 --> 01:37:04.780 about lists of policy, you know, and trying to get facts and figures out and all this kind of stuff. 01:37:04.860 --> 01:37:10.000 No, this is about, you set a high level, this is about values, 01:37:10.300 --> 01:37:13.820 you know, and values and culture, 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:18.800 you know, and this is where, you know, one of the criticism of Democrats going 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:23.900 back decades was that they have tried to be policy wonks and talked about the 01:37:23.900 --> 01:37:26.360 details of this policy or that policy or whatever. 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:34.960 Whereas really, the Republicans understood for a while that the debate is about values. 01:37:35.100 --> 01:37:37.380 The debate is about culture. 01:37:37.580 --> 01:37:42.680 That's what people are making their decisions on. So you set your high-level values. 01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:49.180 You make sure everybody knows what's important to you and what matters and character. 01:37:50.140 --> 01:37:54.780 These are the things like if you trust somebody's character and you trust their 01:37:54.780 --> 01:38:00.860 values, then you also trust them to work out the details of policy when the time comes. 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:05.380 Because the other thing is all of these policy statements that come from candidates, 01:38:05.580 --> 01:38:11.100 not just president, but also Congress, governor, whatever, none of them survive 01:38:11.100 --> 01:38:15.200 interaction with reality once they get into office anyway. 01:38:15.580 --> 01:38:24.140 Because actual Actual policy is the result of politics and negotiation and what's going on at the time. 01:38:24.220 --> 01:38:28.280 So what you need is not somebody who has the right list of policy statements. 01:38:28.360 --> 01:38:33.560 You need someone who you trust, who shares your values, and then they'll get the details. 01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:35.420 Do Democrats have a platform this year? 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:41.840 I'm sure they do. But it's like the platforms are stupid. Well, yeah. 01:38:42.200 --> 01:38:45.720 I don't think the Republicans even bother with a platform this time. 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:49.720 They did. did it was last time they didn't this time there is one it's like all this. 01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:50.560 Time they did okay. 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:55.960 It's like a 60 page document it's called instead of project project 2025 no 01:38:55.960 --> 01:39:02.300 no project 2025 is the heritage group the the the official trump version but. 01:39:02.300 --> 01:39:03.480 I probably i. 01:39:03.480 --> 01:39:10.160 Know it's called it's called project 47 instead and and it's it's a shorter 01:39:10.160 --> 01:39:12.500 version of the same shit basically. 01:39:14.750 --> 01:39:19.630 And it's the it's the it's the executive summary of Project 2025. 01:39:19.990 --> 01:39:24.470 OK, well, and the platform is probably even separate from that. 01:39:24.610 --> 01:39:28.430 I don't know, because the Project 47 was from the Trump campaign. 01:39:29.330 --> 01:39:31.390 Anyway, here's the thing, like platform. 01:39:31.610 --> 01:39:34.750 But listen, right now, here's a problem that the Republicans. 01:39:34.950 --> 01:39:38.490 Bob Dole was asked about the platform. I heard this quote this week. 01:39:38.490 --> 01:39:42.170 Bob Dole, in the Republican convention the year he was the candidate, 01:39:42.430 --> 01:39:47.350 was asked about the Republican platform, and he's like, I don't know. I didn't read it. 01:39:48.090 --> 01:39:51.250 Well, no, and I get that. That's fair. 01:39:52.370 --> 01:39:57.870 I'm not disputing that point. But the one thing that I was saying is, 01:39:58.010 --> 01:39:59.730 oh, yeah, Bob Dole is dead. 01:39:59.950 --> 01:40:02.330 Okay, just remember, yeah, he did die three years ago. 01:40:03.050 --> 01:40:04.890 Was it COVID? You know. 01:40:06.490 --> 01:40:09.850 God. i mean he was also old 01:40:09.850 --> 01:40:12.870 i mean it was during the year of 01:40:12.870 --> 01:40:16.110 covid so hold on death death 01:40:16.110 --> 01:40:19.750 death health death stage four 01:40:19.750 --> 01:40:23.210 lung cancer okay not covid not not 01:40:23.210 --> 01:40:27.450 covid but i mean but jesus christ he was 98 for god's sakes and we got lung 01:40:27.450 --> 01:40:30.530 cancer at 98 i'm not gonna blame the fucking cigarettes it's already a fucking 01:40:30.530 --> 01:40:40.190 98 right you know so anyway look the republicans have a big problem anyway right 01:40:40.190 --> 01:40:42.930 now in terms that they don't really have a party anymore. 01:40:42.930 --> 01:40:44.590 Right they have a call. 01:40:44.590 --> 01:40:49.850 And i but but it but i'm talking just beyond just the saying about whether they 01:40:49.850 --> 01:40:56.490 have a cult what i'm saying is trump decides say not to run trump with what 01:40:56.490 --> 01:41:00.050 he did has completely annihilated the entire party structure. 01:41:00.210 --> 01:41:00.890 Oh, right. Yeah. 01:41:00.950 --> 01:41:09.450 Everywhere. I mean, if there is no Trump running, there is no party left behind. 01:41:09.930 --> 01:41:11.890 There is no- Oh. 01:41:12.210 --> 01:41:19.170 Right. Yeah. The other thing is he has structured the RNC. 01:41:19.250 --> 01:41:24.410 So everything's coming to him and not to, for instance, their Senate candidates 01:41:24.410 --> 01:41:25.530 or their house candidates. 01:41:25.610 --> 01:41:25.910 Right. 01:41:25.930 --> 01:41:29.110 I mean, I'm sure they're getting a little bit, but not, not the, 01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:33.790 level of concentration they usually have you know he put his daughter-in-law 01:41:33.790 --> 01:41:38.290 in charge of the rnc and she basically the first thing she said is yeah everything's 01:41:38.290 --> 01:41:41.590 going to the trump campaign and and his legal fees by the way. 01:41:41.590 --> 01:41:47.770 And his legal fees so so yeah i mean like right now they've got this problem 01:41:47.770 --> 01:41:53.550 that you know look if this thing right now going sideways not not decided, 01:41:54.870 --> 01:42:01.670 If he loses and he decides that either he gets finally pushed out or or just 01:42:01.670 --> 01:42:07.230 decides to bow out or dies, they've got nothing behind that. 01:42:07.330 --> 01:42:09.050 What are you going to do? Run junior? 01:42:09.830 --> 01:42:14.030 Come on. Fucking junior, for God's sakes. I mean, he literally look, I am. 01:42:14.330 --> 01:42:21.530 I would bet $1,000 that he is regularly right now high on cocaine from from 01:42:21.530 --> 01:42:24.370 his appearance almost every time I've seen him lately. 01:42:24.870 --> 01:42:27.830 That guy has to be snorting cocaine nonstop. 01:42:28.610 --> 01:42:32.870 So what? That's what you're going to run? You're going to run Mr. Cokehead? 01:42:34.070 --> 01:42:35.970 Ivanka wants nothing to do with it. 01:42:36.450 --> 01:42:41.390 Next time around, it could be Don Jr. versus Hunter. 01:42:44.710 --> 01:42:50.910 We're going to do a cocaine off instead of a debate? Is that what we're doing? 01:42:51.470 --> 01:42:55.090 Fuck. fuck you know oh unlike 01:42:55.090 --> 01:43:02.250 poor don you know you know don jr who has a dad who couldn't give oh did you 01:43:02.250 --> 01:43:06.010 see don the other day faking that he cared because he realizes that he's gotten 01:43:06.010 --> 01:43:07.530 so much shit about it that he that 01:43:07.530 --> 01:43:11.670 he would like to care for somebody in a crowd and he needed a doctor oh. 01:43:11.670 --> 01:43:14.750 Yeah well that was donald don jr did that right. 01:43:14.750 --> 01:43:21.630 Yeah don don yeah yeah yeah jr yeah no No, well, I skipped it to Todd that he cared. 01:43:21.910 --> 01:43:26.270 Well, look, he doesn't give a fuck about any of these kids either. 01:43:26.570 --> 01:43:29.150 He doesn't care about anybody. He doesn't care about the kids. 01:43:29.210 --> 01:43:31.410 He doesn't care about the wife. He doesn't care about fucking anybody. 01:43:32.870 --> 01:43:36.630 It would have been really great if Melania had showed up at the DNC. 01:43:36.710 --> 01:43:39.410 Now, that would have been funny. But yeah, no, we didn't get that, unfortunately. 01:43:39.910 --> 01:43:43.770 I mean, given that she hasn't shown up anywhere, anybody know where the fuck Melania is? 01:43:43.770 --> 01:43:50.090 Well, I think somebody, I have not verified this, so this may be complete misinformation, 01:43:50.310 --> 01:43:56.610 but somebody I saw online, and you know how the internet is always trustworthy. 01:43:57.070 --> 01:43:59.830 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it from the right place. 01:43:59.990 --> 01:44:04.930 Said that in Donald Trump's financial disclosures that he's required to do as 01:44:04.930 --> 01:44:12.550 a candidate, one of the line items was paying Melania for her appearances for the campaign. yes. 01:44:12.550 --> 01:44:14.010 I did see that yes. 01:44:14.010 --> 01:44:19.450 Because apparently and and like a decent a decent amount like every time she 01:44:19.450 --> 01:44:24.610 goes somewhere in public to like actually support donald trump apparently she's 01:44:24.610 --> 01:44:28.730 getting like 50 grand for it or something like that yeah as i mean we haven't. 01:44:28.730 --> 01:44:34.150 But but but okay but even jesus christ but okay well these are like the phantom 01:44:34.150 --> 01:44:36.510 employee stuff that we talk about uh government employees, 01:44:38.230 --> 01:44:42.790 I mean, when's the last time you've seen her in public? She wasn't at the RNC, 01:44:42.830 --> 01:44:45.910 right? And Ivanka wasn't at the RNC. 01:44:46.190 --> 01:44:53.830 I guess she did one campaign appearance, I don't know, a month ago or something. I forget what it was. 01:44:54.130 --> 01:44:56.830 She's done one or two. She's done a few. 01:44:57.650 --> 01:45:02.370 But less than you would normally expect for a presidential spouse. 01:45:02.810 --> 01:45:07.350 But Ivanka has been a no-show. I mean, it's been Don, Eric, Tiffany. 01:45:08.230 --> 01:45:11.970 I mean, they're like, fuck, we're out. Okay. You know, we got, 01:45:12.030 --> 01:45:14.570 we want nothing to do with this shit. Nothing. 01:45:15.630 --> 01:45:17.470 Tiffany showed up at the trial, didn't she? 01:45:18.570 --> 01:45:19.370 No, no. 01:45:19.450 --> 01:45:20.190 I thought she did. 01:45:20.390 --> 01:45:21.290 No, I don't think so. 01:45:21.290 --> 01:45:22.950 It was only Eric. I thought. 01:45:23.250 --> 01:45:26.510 Yeah, it was only Eric. Yeah, it was only Eric. Yeah. Tiffany, 01:45:26.630 --> 01:45:29.650 I didn't know. But she was, Tiffany was at the RNC. 01:45:29.790 --> 01:45:30.190 Okay. 01:45:31.110 --> 01:45:35.590 I did see that. But, you know, isn't it great to get such family support when 01:45:35.590 --> 01:45:36.470 you're running for president? 01:45:36.470 --> 01:45:42.570 Oh, and that's one of the things, too, by the way, and we're back to comparing the DNC, the RNC. 01:45:42.970 --> 01:45:50.670 I mean, Waltz's family and Harris's family are all right there, all super supportive. 01:45:51.210 --> 01:45:56.290 You know, the Waltz kids were doing rabbit ears behind his head while he was 01:45:56.290 --> 01:45:57.430 doing an interview on TV. 01:45:58.850 --> 01:46:02.130 um there was the whole thing about how excited his 01:46:02.130 --> 01:46:04.870 son was and was saying that's my dad when he was doing his 01:46:04.870 --> 01:46:08.870 acceptance speech which was awesome and even though there's some people like 01:46:08.870 --> 01:46:15.050 giving him shit about it which assholes but they and and then like the the hair 01:46:15.050 --> 01:46:23.510 like like the harris's step kids were there well hell her husband's ex-wife is there wife. 01:46:23.510 --> 01:46:24.710 Was there And. 01:46:24.710 --> 01:46:30.090 She's completely supportive of all this. I mean, he cheated on her. They got divorced. 01:46:30.370 --> 01:46:34.590 It was a whole thing. But like she is right there and she's posting about how 01:46:34.590 --> 01:46:37.590 she's incredibly proud of their blended family. 01:46:37.670 --> 01:46:41.710 She's 100 percent on board with Kamala and she'll do anything she has to help. 01:46:41.830 --> 01:46:43.750 And she was there at the convention, too. 01:46:43.910 --> 01:46:47.130 And it's like, can you even imagine? 01:46:48.030 --> 01:46:53.890 Like, I mean, Donald Trump's current wife won't even show up, let alone his ex. 01:46:53.890 --> 01:46:57.390 Right, you have to pay her to show up for God's sake. 01:47:03.170 --> 01:47:06.630 Well, we got how many days for this fucking thing? 01:47:07.370 --> 01:47:12.170 I will refresh and give you the current number. Hold on. 01:47:12.910 --> 01:47:16.090 And I'm going to election graphs for this, which, by the way, 01:47:16.130 --> 01:47:21.790 since I'm going here anyway, I will mention that I did a new blog post since 01:47:21.790 --> 01:47:25.630 last week's show on August 19th. 01:47:25.850 --> 01:47:30.370 I posted 79 days out, Harris surges to a tie. 01:47:30.990 --> 01:47:32.870 Go to electiongraphs.com and 01:47:32.870 --> 01:47:37.350 hit the blog tab in the navigation and read that if you haven't already. 01:47:37.950 --> 01:47:41.610 Harris's position has actually improved a little bit since then still. 01:47:41.610 --> 01:47:49.150 But no, as of when we are recording, 73.8 days left until the first polls close 01:47:49.150 --> 01:47:51.450 and we start getting election results. 01:47:51.650 --> 01:47:55.630 But I should say, not the first polls close. The first state is closed completely. 01:47:55.830 --> 01:47:59.590 We'll get Dixville Notch about 24 hours before that. But yeah. 01:47:59.790 --> 01:48:06.330 I would really, really, really, really love to switch to the British format of this thing. 01:48:06.330 --> 01:48:11.550 Where the candidates have to stand up on stage with all the crazy candidates 01:48:11.550 --> 01:48:16.650 as well and listen to the votes being read out in real time a couple hours after it closes. 01:48:16.890 --> 01:48:20.430 Well, that part too, but also the short campaign part. 01:48:20.590 --> 01:48:25.650 Oh, okay. Yeah, no, the short campaign, okay. And we're kind of getting that 01:48:25.650 --> 01:48:28.030 in a way because of how late Harris is. 01:48:28.030 --> 01:48:29.310 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still. 01:48:29.490 --> 01:48:36.710 But no, the thing I love is the MPs standing on stage together when they hear 01:48:36.710 --> 01:48:39.090 the official results like read out. 01:48:39.630 --> 01:48:44.890 None of this results dribbling out over the course of the night and then the 01:48:44.890 --> 01:48:46.290 next week, blah, blah, blah. 01:48:46.410 --> 01:48:50.150 No, the official results, final counts, 01:48:50.930 --> 01:48:57.030 read out in front of the candidates on stage, in public, so you see their reactions 01:48:57.030 --> 01:49:02.090 live, and the major candidates have to sit there right next to Lord Buckethead 01:49:02.090 --> 01:49:04.890 and all of those assholes. Yeah. 01:49:06.050 --> 01:49:07.350 you know you. 01:49:07.350 --> 01:49:10.210 Know there is a certain thing about the 01:49:10.210 --> 01:49:13.150 way that we also do it like in puerto rico that they had 01:49:13.150 --> 01:49:16.290 this primary in like may for governor okay 01:49:16.290 --> 01:49:20.090 and the current governor lost okay 01:49:20.090 --> 01:49:23.630 to he was running for re-election he lost you 01:49:23.630 --> 01:49:26.550 know the seat to somebody from his party so the 01:49:26.550 --> 01:49:29.230 this other person is going to be 01:49:29.230 --> 01:49:31.910 the party's candidate the one thing is they have 01:49:31.910 --> 01:49:37.410 been organizing to have this party right okay you know you know how you're running 01:49:37.410 --> 01:49:41.270 the campaign and you have these like media you know you rent the ballroom or 01:49:41.270 --> 01:49:45.270 the place where you go to have the party whatever you know that has the the 01:49:45.270 --> 01:49:50.050 place where the guy that thinks is going to win loses, 01:49:51.050 --> 01:49:59.170 party that has to be the most shittiest fucking place to be at and in elections 01:49:59.170 --> 01:50:04.010 you know when But you're like there, you're all like at this ballroom and the 01:50:04.010 --> 01:50:05.730 results come in and you're like, 01:50:05.850 --> 01:50:08.030 oh, fuck, we lost. 01:50:08.770 --> 01:50:09.210 Yeah. 01:50:09.550 --> 01:50:16.110 Yeah. Yeah. That has to be. Yeah. And I saw somebody taking some pictures of 01:50:16.110 --> 01:50:19.470 this as they were trying to organize the party for this Canada, 01:50:19.490 --> 01:50:21.570 Puerto Rico, and they realized that they lost. 01:50:22.070 --> 01:50:25.310 And I think they were expecting that they were going to win. 01:50:25.450 --> 01:50:25.850 Right. 01:50:25.990 --> 01:50:29.330 And they had a good reason to see that they were going to win. 01:50:29.330 --> 01:50:34.590 And then they saw they lost and they were like, oh shit, that was, that was a glum place. 01:50:34.790 --> 01:50:41.970 Well, yeah, I'm immediately remembering, you know, what was supposed to be Clinton's victory party. 01:50:42.410 --> 01:50:48.410 You know, they, they were all talking about like the big, the big ballroom they'd done. 01:50:48.450 --> 01:50:52.450 And there was, they'd done it at some place that had a glass ceiling so they 01:50:52.450 --> 01:50:56.910 could do sort of a fake version of the glass ceiling breaking and all this kind 01:50:56.910 --> 01:50:59.310 of stuff. and then they all just had to go home. 01:50:59.770 --> 01:51:04.050 Oh, fuck. Yeah, that night was brutal, I have to say. 01:51:04.410 --> 01:51:04.850 Okay. 01:51:04.870 --> 01:51:06.230 I remember that night. 01:51:06.350 --> 01:51:13.030 Yeah. We really should wrap it up, but I can't let it go without saying RFK 01:51:13.030 --> 01:51:14.490 dropped out and endorsed Trump. 01:51:15.630 --> 01:51:19.550 We talked earlier about how he was pretty much irrelevant anyway, but. 01:51:20.010 --> 01:51:24.430 Well, that's pretty much why we left it for now, because he is that fucking irrelevant. 01:51:25.290 --> 01:51:31.230 All I said was that the way they should have done it was that the woman, 01:51:31.310 --> 01:51:33.750 the one that shot the dog, 01:51:33.950 --> 01:51:39.150 she should have been there shooting the dog that then, you know, 01:51:39.150 --> 01:51:43.430 RFK8 in front of everybody at that Republican event. 01:51:43.430 --> 01:51:45.550 that would have been made it perfect. 01:51:45.550 --> 01:51:50.110 Yeah well there there are a couple things for first of all there was talk they 01:51:50.110 --> 01:51:54.550 they were both in arizona so there was talk that rfk would actually show up 01:51:54.550 --> 01:51:59.250 on stage with trump at a trump event later in the day that did not happen oh 01:51:59.250 --> 01:52:00.490 that didn't happen i don't because. 01:52:00.490 --> 01:52:07.450 I kept seeing pictures of of of like supposedly him like like standing by trump but i guess. 01:52:07.450 --> 01:52:12.210 They'll learn from that event no that that i've seen posters of the two of them 01:52:12.290 --> 01:52:16.250 together but not like actual photograph of 01:52:16.250 --> 01:52:19.210 them two together like i do not somebody i've 01:52:19.210 --> 01:52:24.450 seen you know so like he rfk gave his own event where he said he was dropping 01:52:24.450 --> 01:52:30.230 out and endorsing trump but he did not do a joint event with trump and i i think 01:52:30.230 --> 01:52:34.430 part of that is probably like rfk was shopping around looking for a cabinet 01:52:34.430 --> 01:52:37.370 spot and i don't think trump gave it to him well. 01:52:37.370 --> 01:52:41.990 He was shopping exactly he had been going around i'm like hey hey buddy hey 01:52:41.990 --> 01:52:44.110 buddy can i have a cabinet spot hey buddy. 01:52:44.110 --> 01:52:48.390 Now not not not that it's ever bothered donald trump but i believe it would 01:52:48.390 --> 01:52:54.410 actually be illegal for him specifically to offer a cabinet spot in in in exchange 01:52:54.410 --> 01:52:59.370 for an endorsement you know talk about campaign finance laws and bribery and 01:52:59.370 --> 01:53:03.970 all that kind of stuff but not that like again Why would Trump care? 01:53:04.090 --> 01:53:08.690 But I don't think, I don't think RFK got the promises from Trump that he wanted. 01:53:09.220 --> 01:53:12.640 No, I'm seeing this here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's not. Yeah, 01:53:12.740 --> 01:53:15.260 those pictures are some posters for some other fucking thing. 01:53:15.260 --> 01:53:19.000 Whatever. Yeah, they made up some posters. They didn't do a real thing. 01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:26.520 The other thing, and I spoke about how originally it was unclear who he was 01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:28.520 taking more from and it sort of- No. 01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:32.720 No, no. Here we go. After- They did. No, he did. There it is. 01:53:32.780 --> 01:53:39.300 After suspending his presidential campaign and endorsing former President Trump election, RFK Jr. 01:53:39.480 --> 01:53:42.280 joined Trump on stage at a rally Friday in Glendale, Arizona. 01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:45.960 Can he explain what drove him to enter a race, leave the Democratic Party, 01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.420 and throw my support to Trump? So yeah, no, he did. 01:53:48.420 --> 01:53:51.520 I missed the pictures of him. I saw him. 01:53:51.540 --> 01:53:53.900 I thought, damn it. I thought I was like. 01:53:54.100 --> 01:53:54.520 Okay. 01:53:54.560 --> 01:53:55.760 I was like. 01:53:55.840 --> 01:54:00.100 I am wrong. I am stupid. I have misread. 01:54:00.480 --> 01:54:05.060 And I fucking believed you. And I'm like, damn it. I thought I saw him. 01:54:05.300 --> 01:54:09.940 Well, I believed you that time where you were talking about the borders of that 01:54:09.940 --> 01:54:11.140 country in South America. 01:54:11.200 --> 01:54:14.800 And you're talking about how they had to go through Brazil and blah, blah, blah. 01:54:14.860 --> 01:54:17.700 And none of it was true. So, you know, where are you from? 01:54:18.420 --> 01:54:21.800 There was that war where the rebels were, was it? 01:54:22.040 --> 01:54:25.080 Oh, oh, the Guyana thing. 01:54:26.260 --> 01:54:31.300 You were all like, I was like, Ivan knows South America. He would know these details. 01:54:31.480 --> 01:54:34.120 Yeah, and I was wrong about that. 01:54:34.620 --> 01:54:40.100 Yeah, so anyway, I apologize for the misinformation. Apparently they did appear together. 01:54:40.300 --> 01:54:46.400 But I still, I don't think, I'm not getting the vibes that RFK got what he wanted 01:54:46.400 --> 01:54:48.480 from Trump. But he did it anyway. 01:54:48.900 --> 01:54:52.080 He endorsed him anyway. And here's the thing. Yeah. 01:54:52.180 --> 01:54:58.700 Well, I understand that. Was it his like a VP candidate, like a big Trump money person? 01:54:59.340 --> 01:55:06.280 She was, she was, she's like the ex-wife of one of the Google founders. 01:55:07.180 --> 01:55:09.720 Um, right. And so she is a wealthy woman. 01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:15.660 Wait, she, wait. Yeah. Wait, wasn't she the one that fucked Elon and the guy? 01:55:15.860 --> 01:55:18.820 I don't know. I don't know. She, she, Oh shit. 01:55:18.900 --> 01:55:19.120 Yeah. 01:55:19.200 --> 01:55:22.620 Was he, was he, uh, was she Sergey Brin's ex? 01:55:23.180 --> 01:55:27.500 Oh God. I think it is. Yeah. I think it is. 01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:31.800 I mean, you know, she do whatever you want. 01:55:31.840 --> 01:55:34.740 But look, here's the bottom line. And she's part of it. 01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:40.100 Cause she, she basically got the VP spot by donating a shit ton of money to pack supporting. 01:55:40.320 --> 01:55:42.560 Yeah. So that's, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. 01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:48.760 Here's the fundamental reality of the RFK campaign. is it was from the very 01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:57.600 beginning bankrolled by Trump supporters for the purpose of draining votes from Joe Biden. 01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:03.700 And it was doing the opposite. And so first it didn't seem to be working in the primary. 01:56:04.040 --> 01:56:05.960 Like, so, cause of course, first 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:09.380 he was going to run as a Democrat in the primaries that wasn't working. 01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:13.820 He was being rejected by Democrats outright. So he started running as independent. 01:56:14.260 --> 01:56:19.760 And like I said earlier, it was unclear, like depending on the poll, 01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:23.400 sometimes he took from Trump. Sometimes he took from Biden. 01:56:23.460 --> 01:56:27.540 He probably took more from Biden than Trump, but it was close. 01:56:27.540 --> 01:56:29.940 And it varied state by state and poll to poll. 01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:38.100 But then once Biden dropped out, he was 100% taking from Donald Trump. 01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:43.060 And so- Multiple sources. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me finish. Let me finish. 01:56:43.200 --> 01:56:50.260 And so his funding dried up because the entire purpose of his funding was to 01:56:50.260 --> 01:56:52.040 take support from Joe Biden. 01:56:52.040 --> 01:56:57.260 And once it became absolutely clear that he was only taking support from Donald 01:56:57.260 --> 01:57:00.840 Trump, all the people who were bankrolling him stopped. 01:57:01.260 --> 01:57:04.300 And that's why he dropped out. He was running out of money. 01:57:04.500 --> 01:57:08.620 And he and of course, he endorses Trump because the whole purpose of his damn 01:57:08.620 --> 01:57:10.900 campaign all along was to help Donald Trump. 01:57:11.080 --> 01:57:13.400 OK, go ahead. Tell me about the. 01:57:13.400 --> 01:57:17.840 Multiple sources that Elon Musk and Nicole Shanahan took ketamine together and 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:21.820 had a sexual encounter in 2021. So yes, Sergey Brin's ex-wife, yes. 01:57:22.540 --> 01:57:25.620 And apparently Elon Musk had an affair with Google co-founder. 01:57:25.740 --> 01:57:31.120 I mean, he's trying to spread his seed to create this master race, I guess. So I guess he's. 01:57:31.120 --> 01:57:32.680 He's almost said as much. 01:57:33.140 --> 01:57:35.340 Yeah. I mean, he's literally said this. 01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:37.240 Yes. And yeah. 01:57:37.480 --> 01:57:41.600 And yeah, so I guess that, yeah. So, so that was, uh, yeah. 01:57:41.660 --> 01:57:45.600 And he's, he's impregnated a variety of employees as well, if I remember correctly. 01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:46.860 I need to fuck an employee. 01:57:49.500 --> 01:57:55.340 uh so yeah so so that's you know hey hey vaughn elon is the best. 01:57:55.340 --> 01:57:58.600 Humanity has to offer like it would. 01:57:58.600 --> 01:57:59.200 Be wrong. 01:57:59.200 --> 01:58:04.640 Of him to not father as many children as you possibly could you. 01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:07.520 Know look we talked about earlier how they said that apparently 01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:10.320 doug emoff had an affair and that's you know that's one reason 01:58:10.320 --> 01:58:13.160 why he divorced or whatever whatnot but the one thing that 01:58:13.160 --> 01:58:16.320 is that you can see that apparently even 01:58:16.320 --> 01:58:19.420 though sometimes marriages have these issues 01:58:19.420 --> 01:58:22.180 that people do things or whatever but not but the one thing 01:58:22.180 --> 01:58:25.120 that i say if that shows about the character of a person is how 01:58:25.120 --> 01:58:28.060 they handle it later what they do what happens what the relationship 01:58:28.060 --> 01:58:32.600 is with people you know whether you know what not look this this woman is like 01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:36.940 you know i don't know she's back rolling a fucking rfk junior campaign a whole 01:58:36.940 --> 01:58:41.600 bunch of fucking anti-vaxxers trying to of trying to get fucking Donald Trump 01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:45.160 get elected with our fucking money and you know, 01:58:45.970 --> 01:58:47.230 having sex with a moron. 01:58:47.230 --> 01:58:50.490 And and me who's an asshole and meanwhile 01:58:50.490 --> 01:58:53.910 doug m hoff's wife like they 01:58:53.910 --> 01:58:56.950 the marriage didn't work out they remained 01:58:56.950 --> 01:59:00.250 friends they co-parented along with 01:59:00.250 --> 01:59:02.890 his new wife i don't know if she 01:59:02.890 --> 01:59:05.830 has a new husband or not i i just don't know that detail i 01:59:05.830 --> 01:59:12.470 don't know either but the the the step kids talk fondly about all of them the 01:59:12.470 --> 01:59:18.710 ex talks fondly about the a new wife they all get along you know this is like 01:59:18.710 --> 01:59:25.670 i mean it's it it's mature you know it's mature you know sometimes relationships don't. 01:59:25.670 --> 01:59:28.950 Work out it's okay i mean you know it happens but you know when what you're 01:59:28.950 --> 01:59:31.670 doing is i don't know just. 01:59:31.670 --> 01:59:33.910 And look something you're. 01:59:33.910 --> 01:59:38.670 Paying your paying your wife to show up at campaign events because she so hates you. 01:59:38.670 --> 01:59:39.490 That she. 01:59:39.490 --> 01:59:43.810 Won't fucking show up on stage with you you literally have to give her money to do. 01:59:43.810 --> 01:59:48.870 It yeah i mean and look at sometimes relationships end in a way that they can't 01:59:48.870 --> 01:59:51.250 be civil anymore i understand but oh. 01:59:51.250 --> 01:59:54.750 Wait let me ask a question is brandy paying you to appear campaign events. 01:59:54.750 --> 01:59:57.630 Oh yes i i get i 01:59:57.630 --> 02:00:01.150 get huge amounts of money from that oh good good 02:00:01.150 --> 02:00:05.530 and by the way just along those lines like brandy 02:00:05.530 --> 02:00:08.470 got a phone phone call from her ex last or a text or 02:00:08.470 --> 02:00:11.530 something this week and like was chatting about something 02:00:11.530 --> 02:00:15.710 because you know he something was going on in his life and he wanted to talk 02:00:15.710 --> 02:00:22.590 to somebody and you know and do i care am i threatened no it's fine they they 02:00:22.590 --> 02:00:28.710 could chat mine it's like things happen you know you talk to your exes does your wife care. 02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:31.460 No, she actually is friends with them. 02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:33.320 Yeah. Like, I don't know. 02:00:34.480 --> 02:00:37.960 She's friends with them. I mean, you know, yeah, my wife is friends with Kathy. 02:00:38.100 --> 02:00:41.100 I mean, you know, they're, you know, they get along, you know, 02:00:41.100 --> 02:00:42.720 they talk and shit and whatever. Yeah. 02:00:43.540 --> 02:00:47.080 Yeah. Like, I don't know. Sometimes it can't work out. I understand. 02:00:47.200 --> 02:00:50.540 But like, I, this is just one of those clear differences. Like the Republicans 02:00:50.540 --> 02:00:52.740 are all like family values and blah, blah, blah. 02:00:52.980 --> 02:00:57.580 Well, look, here's some goddamn really healthy families, you know? 02:00:57.640 --> 02:00:57.960 Yes. 02:00:57.960 --> 02:01:02.380 Showing off. Whereas on, on the, on the stupid Republican side, 02:01:02.500 --> 02:01:07.460 you've got Donald Trump and then, and then you've got Cy Vance. 02:01:07.800 --> 02:01:11.500 Like, okay. He's got, he's got a nice little family, but at the same time, 02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:15.920 he's like, he's like making racist comments about his own wife. 02:01:16.040 --> 02:01:20.340 You know, listen, it's not about, it's not about perfection. 02:01:20.620 --> 02:01:25.700 Yeah. Nobody's perfect, but it's what the, what humanity you display when something 02:01:25.700 --> 02:01:29.780 happens that may be her full that doesn't work and how you deal with it and 02:01:29.780 --> 02:01:33.960 how you go on still, you know, with care and humanity. 02:01:35.320 --> 02:01:39.920 Because people do shit sometimes. It's fine. But, you know, what we all do, 02:01:40.060 --> 02:01:44.740 you know, none of us are saints, so we'll do things. But how do you deal with it? 02:01:45.240 --> 02:01:48.720 That's what really shows your character. And that's why I keep saying that's 02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:52.260 what shows Trump's character, because the guy is just another douchebag. 02:01:52.400 --> 02:01:55.280 None of us are saints. What are you talking about, Yvonne? I'm perfect. 02:01:55.920 --> 02:01:56.820 Oh, you're perfect? 02:01:56.820 --> 02:02:05.200 I am pure as the driven snow. I am the pinnacle of humanity, except for Elon Musk. 02:02:05.340 --> 02:02:08.340 I can't compete there. I'm going to. No, we can't compete there. 02:02:08.400 --> 02:02:11.960 Look, I'm going to make sure that I'm going to bury my wife at a golf course 02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:14.440 in which she passes away before I do. That's the one thing I'm. 02:02:14.440 --> 02:02:18.420 Going to do. Along with a couple boxes of classified documents in her casket. 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.800 Yeah, exactly. Yes, absolutely. 02:02:21.540 --> 02:02:23.320 I think we should be done, Yvonne. 02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:25.020 We should be done. Okay. 02:02:25.040 --> 02:02:27.780 We probably should have been done 10 minutes ago. or longer but 02:02:27.780 --> 02:02:30.680 oh well but anyway you know all right okay the stuff at the end go 02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:33.400 to curmudgeons-corner.com you can find out all the 02:02:33.400 --> 02:02:36.180 ways to contact us you can look at our archives their transcripts of 02:02:36.180 --> 02:02:43.480 more recent shows you can find links to stuff yeah stuff oh yeah a link to our 02:02:43.480 --> 02:02:46.820 patreon to give us money at various levels we'll mention you on the show we'll 02:02:46.820 --> 02:02:50.500 ring a bell we'll send you a postcard we'll send you a mug all that kind of 02:02:50.500 --> 02:02:55.160 stuff and at two dollars a month or more, or if you just ask us, 02:02:55.180 --> 02:02:58.980 we will invite you to our Commedians Corner Slack that Yvonne's mentioned a 02:02:58.980 --> 02:03:02.280 couple times during the show of some interesting discussions we've had there. 02:03:02.500 --> 02:03:06.100 We would love to have more of you. It's Yvonne, myself, a bunch of our listeners 02:03:06.100 --> 02:03:09.440 talking, sharing links, all that kind of stuff. Do you have one you want to 02:03:09.440 --> 02:03:10.440 highlight this week, Yvonne? 02:03:11.640 --> 02:03:13.340 Oh, fuck. Yes. 02:03:14.610 --> 02:03:16.130 Well, can't talk about the boat. 02:03:16.370 --> 02:03:17.670 Yeah, you already did that. 02:03:18.370 --> 02:03:24.590 Yeah, I know. Donald Trump Jr. is launching a crypto platform to take on the banks. 02:03:25.670 --> 02:03:28.890 The son of presidential candidate Donald Trump Jr. 02:03:29.070 --> 02:03:33.710 has revealed that he will launch a new DeFi platform to compete with the banking world. 02:03:34.250 --> 02:03:37.650 Sam, the banking world is waking in its boots right now. 02:03:37.750 --> 02:03:40.970 So let me get this straight because I'm a little bit confused now. 02:03:40.970 --> 02:03:50.010 when i liquidate my 401k should it all go into djt stock or should it all go into don jr's crypto. 02:03:50.610 --> 02:03:52.650 Now don jr crypto i. 02:03:52.650 --> 02:03:55.690 Think that's the way to go that's the way to go don jr crypto wait a second 02:03:55.690 --> 02:04:01.390 liquidate everything wait a second no i'll buy don jr's crypto and then take 02:04:01.390 --> 02:04:05.570 a loan using that as collateral and buy the stock with that and. 02:04:05.570 --> 02:04:10.450 Buy the yes yes yes that sounds perfect i'm sure that That can't miss. 02:04:10.730 --> 02:04:15.590 That can't miss. That would be perfect. Okay. Well, hey, everybody, 02:04:15.790 --> 02:04:19.570 are there any major news events scheduled for the next week? I don't know. 02:04:19.650 --> 02:04:22.870 I'm sure something will happen, but we're done with the convention. 02:04:23.510 --> 02:04:24.730 Not next week. 02:04:24.770 --> 02:04:27.050 We got a couple weeks until the sentencing and all that. 02:04:27.070 --> 02:04:29.370 What's that, sentencing? Yeah, yeah, we got a couple of weeks. 02:04:29.370 --> 02:04:32.990 We got a couple of weeks. I mean, I'm going to Vegas. We got the hearing. 02:04:33.210 --> 02:04:39.510 We got the hearings on immunity. We got the legal submissions first on immunity, 02:04:39.750 --> 02:04:40.850 then the hearing on immunity, 02:04:41.090 --> 02:04:46.110 and then the sentencing, assuming that the sentencing doesn't get delayed either 02:04:46.110 --> 02:04:50.930 because the judge agrees to delay it further or because there's emergency appeals 02:04:50.930 --> 02:04:52.250 that delay it, blah, blah, blah. 02:04:52.370 --> 02:04:56.410 So we shall see. Anyway, but we got at least one more show before that. 02:04:56.830 --> 02:05:01.990 Anyway, hey, everybody, have a good week. Stay safe, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 02:05:02.630 --> 02:05:04.570 We'll see you next time. Goodbye. 02:05:05.770 --> 02:05:05.950 Bye. 02:05:36.350 --> 02:05:40.170 And folks are really missing out they're not watching the live streams i'm so 02:05:40.170 --> 02:05:45.530 sad the the video you could chat to us in real time on the live stream and like 02:05:45.530 --> 02:05:49.310 comment while we're going you know but no no we're. 02:05:49.310 --> 02:05:53.310 Not we're not exactly really like on at a good. 02:05:53.310 --> 02:05:58.290 Time well you know it does say this time there were two views for an average 02:05:58.290 --> 02:06:01.390 duration of one minute and 21 one seconds, but I think both of them were me. 02:06:02.050 --> 02:06:04.190 Oh God. Oh, well, it wasn't me. 02:06:04.350 --> 02:06:08.110 That's for sure. Okay. Bye, Mr. Bo. 02:06:08.930 --> 02:06:09.250 Bye.